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local residents cheered that news. news. >> there's another one. >> we have one guy down. >> yay! >> yay! >> they got one guy? >> the search for the remaining inmate intensified adds unmarked and marked police vehicles moved there the area. more than 1,100 officers have been involved since the pair escaped from the clinton correctional a facility on june 6. nbc news got a look at this cabin deep in the woods near owls head new york 15 miles from the prison. police found dna evidence that was a match to both convicts. let's bring in msnbc's chris pollone in malone new york. welcome to you. let's talk about the activity you're seeing there this afternoon. >> alex it's been going on since the break of down this morning. police have a perimeter around 22 square miles of forestland

along the salmond river south of malone, new york. about a thousand officers from state, federal, and local agencies have been going into the woods trying to find the remaining surviving suspect, david sweat. he is believed to be on the run somewhere in this area. you can see police are manning a checkpoint behind me. all day long we've seen large groups of state police vehicles border patrol vehicles even large motor coach buses bringing in corrections officers to aid in this manhunt. this kicked off yesterday afternoon a little after 1:00 when a driver who had a camper was driving through this area south of malone. he heard a noise, thought he had a flat tire drove a few miles and when he pulled over he noticed there was a bullet knoll the camper. he called police police responded to this area. they found a cabin, a second cabin they believe these escapees used for shelter. they smelled fresh gun powder in the air as if a shot had been fire and a few moments later

they heard coughing and they saw that first suspect, richard matt. hay they told him to stop, asked him to raise his hands, when he didn't, he was shot and killed. police found a 20 gauge shotgun on him as they approached. police say they believe the pair has been traveling together over the past week. they discovered both their dna in a cabin a week ago however they can't say for sure nobody has seen david sweat at all physically, they just believe he has to be in this area after traveling with matt but police can't confirm that at this point. law enforcement sources are telling nbc news they feel like they're hot on sweat's trail. we have to see how it plays out. alex? >> i have to think this is a huge sense of relief but you can't let it go in terms of local residents. but at least to have one down, that has to be a relief for them. >> it really. is it was remarkable last night when the governor came in to give his news conference that hundreds of townspeople from

here in malone just spontaneously showed up at the state police barracks to listen. they applauded things he had to say, saying matt had been killed but they can't let up because knew matt was confirmed to have a weapon it's very possible sweat has a weapon as well. people who live in this area have cob bins have to remain on alert. >> chris pollone, thank you so much from malone new york. let's bring in a veteran bounty hunter who's got more than 4,000 arrests. he's an expert advisor for law enforcement agencies around the country. sikh welcome back to the broadcast. how long do you think it will take to close in on the remaining fugitive. there's evidence they were traveling together. how far can he go if he's surrounded? >> well, we knew from the beginning they were traveling together and what we're seeing is the results of fighter flight syndrome for the last 21 days. law enforcement has put a lot of

stress on these individuals which caused them to go into a type of hypnosis and they started making mistakes as we thought they would. initially we saw the trail. now we see the shootings and these things happen because the suspects haven't had a lot of sleep, they haven't had a lot of food and they start to make mistakes because they're not thinking properly right now i think what we're seeing is within 72 hours i believe we'll see an apprehension one way or another. i think we may see a surrender at the hands of law enforcement. >> zeke, are you surprised they were still relatively in the area of the prison from which they escaped over three weeks ago. >> well, i think we spoke about that last week when i said that would be within the perimeter or just outside of it. you have to remember that law enforcement did an amazing job of setting up the perimeter quickly. now once again we've just moved the fugitive investigation to

another location as we talked about. what's happening is another perimeter is set up, the dogs are brought in again and the fugitives should be apprehended within 72 hours. >> all these stories are coming out around the help they allegedly may have received from prison workers. does that surprise you? what's in it for prison workers? >> well not a lot. i think in fact what we'll see is some transferred intent. meaning any crime that was committed after they escaped could be put on the aiders and abert within the prison. >> interesting. and the fact that this one cab win in which the dna evidence was collected, both of these men had been in there, it's reportedly owned by a corrections official. but the likelihood of them being involved, do you think these guys could have overheard corrections officials talking about a cabin, put two and two together? it seems so remote. >> well, you know, we don't want

to speculate. that's one of the things as investigators, you never want to speculate. i think if this fugitive is fought alive and he's debriefed i think a lot of it will come out of it. >> okay well zeke unger, thank you very much for weighing in. i'm sure we'll see you again before this is over. a bit later i'll talk with a former u.s. marshal on where sweat could be and how matt's death could affect his tactics. two activists are under arrest in south carolina after this happened. in columbia earlier this morning. police say brittany newsome climbed to remove the confederate flag. police told her to come down but she ignored their calls until she unhooked the flag. she and james tyson have been charged with defacing a monument. the flag has been replaced with a new one. joining me now, nbc's sarah dallof from charleston south carolina. sara, with a good day to you. you spoke with the reverend jesse jackson about this incident. what did he tell you?

>> that is correct alex. the reverend was walking up and down this growing memorial at the church behind me when we heard the news. when i told him he said he wasn't surprised but delighted saying the action was non-violence and that activists have a way of pushing the envelope for change. >> not surprised. i'm delighted that they pulled it down in a non-violence way. the burden is on the state, when they put it back up or keep it down. activists have a way of pushing the envelope for change and people are saying this must not be just an embarrassment moment. this must be a transformative moment. >> this is still another difficult day for the community here. there are two funerals for three people scheduled today. the first is currently under way for cynthia hunt. she was a librarian at the busiest branch in the county. it's being renamed in her honor and they started a scholarship in her name.

in two hours there there will be a joint funeral for 87-year-old susie jackson and her nephew tywanza sanders. according to witnesses, sanders tried to talk the gunman down and when it became apparent he could not be reasoned with he tried to shield his aunt with his own body. back to you. >> sarah dallof thank you so much from charleston. other news now, secretary of state john kerry is back in vienna in advance of the june 30 deadline for a nuclear agreement with iran. the secretary will meet with're's foreign minister. among the key issues at hand reducing iran's uranium stockpile and some relief from the painful sanctions. in north carolina mystery surrounds the death of anti-vaccine dr. jeff brad street who was found dead in a river with what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the chest. his death is currently under investigation. bradstreet ran a clinic georgia and published research claiming vaccines cause autism. however the medical community has disproved his claims.

and another shark attack in the waters off north carolina. a 47-year-old man was swimming in waist-deep water in the outer banks when someone yelled "shark." the man was automobile to get four other people out of the water before he was bitten on his right leg and lower back. he was airlifted to norfolk, no word on his condition but this is the fifth such attack in north carolina this year. experts believe sharks are in the area because of an influx of sea turtles there for the nesting season. today security officials from new york to europe and the middle east are stepping up precautions following yesterday's devastating terror attacks in franz, tunisia and kuwait. dozens of people are dead and isis has claimed responsibility for the shootings in tunisia and the suicide bombing in kuwait. joining me on the phone from tunisia, nbc news's kelly cobiella. i understand there are thousands of tourists there now trying to get out of the country. you spent a good part of the day at the site of the attack. what are you seeing? >> we did, alex.

the hotel is basically locked down. nobody is coming in. tourists are simply leaving but no one is going in. the beach behind is cordoned off. it's practically deserted. the few tourist wes saw and spoke to said they're trying somehow to get home looking for flights from sousse back to the uk cutting their vacation short and other countries, belgians britains german tunisians were all among the dead even a ukrainian. these people are crowding into airport this is afternoon desperate to get on flights, survivors who are in shock. terror on the sand. tourists running from the grounds of their beach hotel friday morning. the horrifying scene caught on cell phone video and posted online by a tunisian radio station. gunshots ringing out over and

over bodies in the sand. at least 39 are dead and nearly as many injured. >> i just saw the gunman firing shots randomly at people laying on the sun beds on the beach. >> reporter: the gunman was shot dead in the street. at least two others were arrested. just three months ago, an attack on tunisia's national museum left 20 dead. most of them tourists. this morning, isis released a message and picture of a 23-year-old tunisian aviation student. it was one of three terror attacks on three continents. in kuwait, security cameras showed the moments before another attack, a suicide bomber posing as a worshipper at a packed shiite mosque. at least 25 were killed more than 200 injured. the third attack was at an american-owned gas factory outside lyon france. the severed head of the attackers 'em ployer was found

at the factory gate. the suspect, his wife and two others have been arrested. just this week an isis spokesman called on muslims wherever to rise up and make ramadan a month of calamity but u.s. officials said there was no indication the attacks were coordinated. back here in tunisia, the tourism industry is vital to the economy here and the government is taking a very hard line after this attack. they're cracking down on illegal mosques. mosques are regulated by the government here. those that are not approved by the government the prime minister has said, will be closed down. alex they're talking about closing 80 mosques in the next week. >> that sounds pretty devastating. okay, thank you so much, kelly cobiella for that. just ahead, meet the little boy at the heart of the supreme court marriage ruling. how two-year-old cooper made headlines for families across this country next.

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it's a wedding weekend in 14 states where same-sex marriage was banned. many couples getting their marriage licenses friday after hearing about the supreme court's ruling that legalized gay marriage in every state. here's some of nbc's halle jackson's report from the "nbc nightly news." >> reporter: celebrations decades in the making but perhaps none as meaningful as these -- marriage ceremonies in states where it was illegal. like in arkansas. >> spouses for life. >> reporter: and in texas where jack evans and george harris finally wed after 50 years together. >> one of the youngest plaintiffs in the landmark ruling is a two-year-old little boy named cooper thomas vitally. he was known as adopted child doe. he was adopted by joe vitale and

rob thomas. the couple was married in new york but because ohio state did not recognize same-sex marriage officials refused to issue a birth certificate listing both of their names. joining me now in studio joe vitale and rob thomas. i'm only sorry he can't be here he would steal the show. are he's a little under the weather. how do you explain the significance, joe, of what's happened and the role he's played in this? >> i think waking up this morning realizing where we were today versus where we were yesterday before 1:00 a.m. i think that he'll be able to watch this footage when he can basically understand and realize what an impact he had on this. it humanized this entire process. hundreds of thousands of couples wanted to get married but as a result of yesterday's verdict now they can get married. but talk about cooper he is a child. he didn't ask to be involved in this. >> he's two. >> correct. now that he will be recognized in all 50 states and territories

i think for us it will be an easy story to tell because love won and i think it's going to be a great legacy for the family but more importantly for the country. >> and something you think he can actually bear. because who's somewhat pro precocious. we heard you describing him like a ham. >> he's a total ham. when he gets to watch the footage -- he's been watching the footage and he thinks it's hysterical that he sees his daddies on tv. he doesn't get it but he's been a trouper through the whole thing. we've been -- he's been getting through some really tough hours and traveling around and making the appearances that he can and people love him. he was down at the rally yesterday dancing like crazy. so, yeah, he's having a great time. >> i'm glad about that. in writing the majority opinion justice kennedy says this guys. "excluding same-sex couples from marriage thus conflicts with a central premise of the right to marry. without the recognition,

stability and predictability marriage offers. their children suffer the stigma of knowing their families are somehow lesser. the marriage laws at issue here thus harm and humiliate the children of same-sex couples." so when you think about this being heard, rob, in front of the supreme court, the highest court in the land particularly as it relates to whether same-sex couples were capable of giving children a loving home. how does that make you feel? >> it doesn't make sense to me. we were privileged enough to be in the court to hear the arguments and when you think about the opposing argument that, you know children would suffer in these sorts of family units it just contradicts everything we were doing there. right? we're obviously there because we value the institution of marriage. we want to be a family unit and want to be recognized and we want to provide our family the same protection as every other family in the united states. >> that protection joe, talk about that.

what were the things that were missing to potentially for cooper or at least for the first two years of his life that you weren't able to provide. >> the birth certificate is a legal document that follows you throughout your entire life. but something as simple as day care where the form states that i need the birth certificate because they need to list the parent and the nannies and the parents have requirements, able to take the kid from school treat him in a hospital. to only allow one parent on that certificate, that would transpose to any document for school. so only are or i depending on who was on that certificate, the other person would have to be another and we're not another, we're his parents. to get a birth certificate, to get a passport, to get a social security card we don't want another. there's not one parent. all the documents i mentioned refer back to a birth certificate. if there's only one name on there, basically that document state there is's only one parent. >> i'm curious. rob, with regard to how people reacted to you we're in the

year 2015 i imagine off community of friends around you. but when you were dealing with officials, were they sympathetic at all or were they like "we have to go by the book"? what was the reaction? >> we had an amazing experience. we went to ohio to adopt our son. we adopted anymore a very traditional private hospital where we thought we might be at the other end of some prejudice or discrimination and absolutely not. everybody was so helpful and understanding and understanding that we were doing what was right for cooper. we haven't experienced any discrimination ever and our family and friends and the other plaintiffs, i mean such a support group, right? the only time we ever experienced any trouble was trying to get this document for cooper which was a complete shock to us because we went through this whole wonderful process of adopting our son, finalizing in the state of new york, new york issuing the order to ohio.

listing joe and i as his parents and ohio coming back out of the blue saying they don't recognize our marriage. you think they let us leave ohio with cooper and then to come the other hand on the other side of your face to say we don't recognize your marriage and we won't issue you a birth certificate with both your names, complete shock. >> how long until this gets fixed? >> we haven't talked to our attorneys yet but it's our understanding from the media there's a certain grace period maybe 20230 days. obviously the supreme court has spoken and we'll allow the state to work our it that little speed bumps but hopefully soon. >> well from one parent who believes that the job as a parent is the greatest one on the planet i'm sure you agree. >> even more today. >> gentlemen, good luck dads it will be a great few years ahead of you. will. tear school middle school high school oh yeah. thank you. >> thanks alex. president obama may have just wrapped the best week of his entire presidency.

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chapter in history i. images that punctuate a defining week. an outpouring of emotion at the supreme court, the white house glowing in a rainbow of pride late friday night. while earlier in the day in south carolina the president helping to heal a community and a nation. >> to the families of the fallen, the nation shares in your grief. >> this could be remembered as the week that really set president obama's legacy in into stone. >> reporter: a stunning turn of events for a president who has been locked in a bitter battle with republicans but it was republicans who helped secure major victories for him. a bipartisan deal on trade. chief justice john roberts a bush appointee, upholding obamacare for a second time. >> the affordable care act is here to stay. >> reporter: and the supreme court legalizing same-sex marriage, a landmark moment. >> today we can say in no

uncertain terms that we've made our union a little more perfect. >> reporter: all that was temped by a hate crime that claimed nine lives in its church including its leader. >> preacher by 13 pastor by 18 public servant by 23. what a life clementa pinckney lived. ♪ amazing grace ♪ >> in a rare moment, the president broke into song a call for unity in the battles not yet won. ♪ that saved a wretch like me ♪ >> reporter: just a remarkable moment. the president took on the issues of guns and race joining the call to bring down the confederate flag in south carolina, all capping a week

that will leave an indelible mark in history. >> it sure will. kristen welker at the white house, thanks so much. joining me for more is the "washington post" david mack neuroa and the daily beast eleanor clift. david, let's talk about a couple things point by point. nakamura. david, what kind of challenge was that? >> well you know, they were somewhat coincidental this the timing worked out the way it did. each of these pieces is something this administration has worked hard on particularly health care, the first big priority, the trade deal is something that's not only a big second-term priority in his focus on the asia region but also on his domestic legacy and the idea that this administration can still work with republicans which is a rare achievement but something that they teamed up together to do. all of these taken together two the gay marriage ruling and the president's speech at that kristen just talked about did make for a remarkable week.

the white house reaction was not just relief and excitement but vindication because the president has been criticized about being too aloof or detached. they think he's proven them wrong this week. >> eleanor, can you put this into perspective? what this the legacy-defining event for the president? >> well president obama always said he wanted to be a transformational president. in the past he's cited ronald reagan as his role model. not that he agreed with the reagan policies but he thought the reagan presidency transformed america and i think this week the cultural changes that we've seen ratified by the supreme court really do speak to a cultural transformation during this president's time in office and you can argue how much he directly brought it about. i think he did set same-sex marriage in motion when he had his administration refuse to defend the defense of marriage

act and certainly health care which was every president going back to teddy roosevelt tried to get health care reform through the congress and failed. and now the obamacare, the affordable care act, has been ratified twice by the supreme court and while the republicans i'm sure will continue to call for its repeal it will be very difficult to take away something that is as the president put it has been woven into the life of america. so i think this bring this is presidency fuch closer to the history making place that the president wanted aside from the fact that the mere fact of his election was transformative. he's now added some substantial achievements. >> interestingly, david it was not the liberals in the supreme court who wrote these progressive opinions. chief justice roberts did it for obamacare, justice kennedy on same-sex marriage. any surprise with that?

>> to some extent yes. i think the white house got a sense that chief justice john roberts had upheld in 2012 a key challenge to the health care law so they were hopeful he would again this time and they were rewarded for that hope with his very strong opinion, it wasn't just that they ruled in favor of the administration here but something that this ruling was expansive enough to block future administrations from trying to change or alter some of the way this program is being enacted right now and i think for -- of course for chief justice kennedy it's another -- he's been looked at as that key court justice on these kind of social issues. he also had a very strong opinion on the marriage case one that was empathetic and i think determinative so i think the administration is very thrilled to have this and just going forward it gives this administration life into the idea that they were going to be moving into lame duck territory.

they feel like this has given them a jolt of energy to move forward. >> another big event if you will from yesterday, eleanor, let's listen to the president during his eulogy for the reverend pinckney. >> ♪ amazing grace how sweet the sound ♪ that saved a retch like me i once was lost ♪ but now i'm found ♪

>> you know eleanor, you've been covering the white house a long time now. do you think any other president could have pulled that off? >> well i think jimmy carter actually did very well in black churches and so did bill clinton. but this was a remarkable moment and i think if we're talking about transformation, the transformational power of the black church in america for decades, centuries. the president did tap into that and for a president who's been kind of criticized for not being black enough for not speaking to that constituency i think we all snared that experience watching this and we get a glimpse of the issues that will be fort this president after he leaves office at a relatively young age in another year and a half. >> all right eleanor clift, david nakamura many thanks to

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one of them, richard matt was shot the death late yesterday afternoon in the woods near malone, new york about 40 miles from where the escape took place. more than 11 00 officers have been involved in the search since the pair escaped from the clinton correctional facility on june 6. arthur roderick deputy assistant director at the department of homeland security and former assistant director of investigations for the u.s. marshals service. welcome back arthur. nearly 24 hours or so since police con on frommed and shot fugitive richard matt. are you surprised in terms of the timing that david sweat is still at large? >> yes, alex i am pretty surprised surprised. i was hoping we would have absolute confirmation they had seen him. i'm fairly sure he is in the perimeter but i wish we could pick up a dog scent or get a visual.

we've had perimeters set up before and they've expanded the search areas and they've become porous. but it sounds like they have a hard perimeter and they'll have to go section by section and clear it out. >> but aren't they searching with dogs who track with scent? it's interesting they wouldn't be able to pick up his scent if they know where richard matt was. >> i agree which sort of you can conclude from that that maybe they weren't together but we have no evidence to say that they had split up at this point. so we have to make the assumption that they're still together and that because they were in the danger area that they are still together. once they get out of the immediate proximity then they usually split up. in this particular case i think they were together based on the

evidence that was found at the cabin. >> so david sweat, at this point if he's thinking about things dawes it become more difficult for law enforcement officers as they try to close in? this is a fugitive who may not be willing to surrender and do whatever it takes to stay alive. >> that is a major issue and when you look at this terrain i was involved in a shooting incident several years ago in very simmer the rain and you cannot see your hand in front of your face because the wroods so thick so it's very chaotic if shooting starts happening. you have to understand you have highly trained tactical units in there and they only shoot when they make target acquisition. so they're not spraying the woods with bullets as the bad guys will do. once that first round goes off, it will become very chaotic in those woods. i'm hoping they'll talk him out. but i'm thinking in the time he's got left he could come to the same ending as his partner

matt did. >> is it more common for escapees to stay together or split up and go it alone? >> you might recall the texas seven case from several years ago. they stayed together all the way up until the time they were caught which was i believe within 30 days later. generally it's after they're out of that danger area and this has been an extended manhunt at this point going on just over three weeks and i could see where they would stay together for psychological and physical support from one another is but at this point here i'm just hoping we get something very soon in that hardened area where they're searching right now. >> i'm sure you're echoing the sentiments of us as well. arthur good to see you. >> thank you, alex. u.s. officials issue a fourth of july warning that

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today u.s. intelligence and law enforcement sources tell nbc news there is growing concern of an isis-inspired attack during the upcoming upjuly 4 weekend. that comes after the terror attacks in tunisia, france and kuwait leaving dozens dead. joining me is marc ginsberg and deputy senior advisor for middle east policy under president jimmy carter. welcome, always good to see you, marc, thanks for joining me. >> good to be with you, alex. >> you well know north africa. for years, tunisia had always been a safe and popular vacation spot. now within four months they've had at least 60 people killed in those two attacks targeting tourists. at almost the same time two other attacks. could this have been orchestrated? >> well, orchestrated yes

because isis' social media propaganda in the arab world has an intensive hold on so many north africans. ironically, use laid out, tunisia being a haven for tourists the only democratically elected government in the region since the arab spring but, alex ironically, the largest number of isis fighters in the arab world are coming from tunisia. >> let's look at the other major attack of the day, that was in kuwait with that shiite mosque bombing. another country, mark, with a history of terrorism. is this a strategy going forward for the terrorists? they want to go to places where people don't necessarily have their guard up? >> absolutely. i just came out of jordan a few months ago. we're trying to understand how arabs are recruited by isis let alone how lone wolfes in the united states are and the fact of the matter is that isis'

propaganda machine has not been destroyed by any coalition effort. understanding how we have to take it down both physically as well as from a project cal point of view is going to be key. the threat that was just announced by the united states government for the fourth of july weekend and the heightened alert is systematic of what we see coming out of isis. calling on individuals to find ways to attack the united states, france and other countries that are participating in the coalition even if they can not join isis in the territory that isis controls. destroying isis' control over its territory and putting a -- i guess a parental lock on the social media is going to be key and we haven't done either. >> mark, talking about this july 4 situation, we know that isis likes symbolism. july 4, all about this country's freedom. are you concerned because of

that and any other information that we're getting that this could be a real legitimate concern, something to look out? >> well, yes because i've been reading and watching the social media out of isis. some of the last social media that haas come out of isis on the internet has called for attacks on the united states during the fourth of july number one. number two, just look what happened a few days ago when a father had to turn in his son who has absolutely nothing to do with islam but was plotting and planning attacks against his community. the fbi doesn't have the capacity to be able to track down every misfit sitting in their basement who's deciding after watching a social media video from isis that they're going to go out and kill americans and shutting down their capacity to reach that technological threshold in their home will be key. >> mark what is the end game

for crisis? anything you see that is positive? >> i have written about this because it has to be mar more effective on a broader front. the territory isis controls gives it under the koran the authority, the authority, in arabic the word is amer. cutting that territory in half putting an expedition force of military troops from the arab world between syria and iraq will be key. getting isis out of raqqa, syria, and in effect attacking their home in mosul is going to be key. shutting down their technological capacity to be able to reach the internet is going to be -- look, that's very obviously controversial. but alex we can't have it both ways. we can not let isis continue to provide very have access on social immediate dwramedia to reach americans and europeans and muslims without taking steps to curb it. we haven't done enough to come close to do that. >> ambassador marc ginsberg

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alex witt." new video this hour shows the search for the remaining escaped prison inmate intensifying today with unmarked and marked police vehicles moveing through the search area in upstate new york. one of the killer richard matt was shot to death yesterday in the woods near malone new york. nbc news got a look at this cabin deep in the woods near owls head, new york, about 15 miles from the prison. police got their first big break in the search there when they found dna evidence that was a match to both escapees. msnbc's chris pollone is in malone new york covering the progress. what's the latest on the search today? >> alex police have about 22 square miles surrounded. they believe that if the lone surviving escapee, david sweat, is in that area in this forest that is alongside the salmon river near malone new york they say they will get him. they believe they are closing in on them. but that is a big "if" at this

point. this started yesterday afternoon when a driver coming through this area had who had a camper was apparently shot at. he thought he had a blown tire. drove a few miles, pulled over found a bullet hole in his vehicle, called police and police came to the area. they discovered a second cabin apparently the prisoners used for shelter and a few moments later outside the cab minute they saw richard matt. they told him to put up his hands, he didn't do that they shot him, that i say he was armed with a 20 gauge shotgun. police have not physically seen david sweat at all but they say they have no reason to believe the pair split up that's why they're confident he is in this 22-square mile forest area they have surrounded and they say it's a matter of time before they catch him. >> how has the community reacted to yesterday's big events? >> yesterday when we got word that matt had been shot and

later that he can be killed and police felt they were closing in on sweat there was really palpable joy that you could feel from people who live here. this is a small town in the adirondacks and when word came out the governor was coming up here to give a news conference people started gathering around across the street and towards the podium. by the time the governor spoke, there were probably 100 people out there. they were joyous then but as time goes on i think they're getting nervous that sweat is not in custody yet. you can hear for yourself. >> it relieves a lot of the tension in the community. i mean for 20 days we've been having to lock our doors. it's in the back of our minds those that two murderers are in the area. >> it will be a peace of mind. my family and i will be able to rest. three weeks now, it's time this is done and over with. >> obviously those -- those interviews were done yesterday

right after this first killing of matt so as time goes on and we drag into saturday afternoon, nearly 24 hours after matt was shot and killed you have to think people in this area are still wary because we don't know how long this will go. police say they're closing in but who knows. >> you cannot let down your guard yet. thanks so much, chris pollone, appreciate it. let's bring in former fbi profiler candace delong. how difficult should bit for the police to close in on the remaining fugitive? >> well it's looking very good. ever since the lead was developed about a week ago that they had been in that cabin they were seen together their dna was confirmed they were both there so that helped the police intensify on a much tighter geographic area then of course we know what happened yesterday. the likelihood that this is probably going to end pretty

soon is high. but it's a very difficult area for police to search in. the foliage is thick and there was recently a case a few years ago in northern california in a redwood forest where police were looking for a mountain man who killed someone and they were looking for him and he knew how to live in the mountains and while they were searching, they were looking down for clues, they were looking in front of them and on side of them but he was up in a tree and he shot and killed one of them. >> wow, so given though thaez that these guys are not necessarily mountain men, they've been on the run for three weeks and it's possible david sweat saw what happened to matt. what do you think will be going through his mind? >> desperation. he knows -- i believe you're right, he probably is very much aware what happened he might have even witnessed it. desperation. he may have probably -- probably already has decided what he's

going to do. either suicide by cop, which would be not complying if he's confronted, come complying with their demands or pointing a gun at them it's all over or perhaps he's considered suicide and maybe even surrender, but sur reverend probably wouldn't be a viable option considering what he'd be looking at if he goes back to clinton. >> which you visited that facility last year candace. anything you saw there that in retrospect you think "that was kind of a red flag"? >> no actually alex it was very very tight security i referred to it when i was telling people about it as the shawshank prison. it was very imposing, very very old. that wall that you see that's been on so many videos is 40 feet high. it also goes 40 feet down to the ground. i thought security was very tight.

they suspected and searched my crew going in and out. it took 45 minutes to go through our equipment to make sure we weren't taking anything in or out including cell phones anything at all. prison employees had to go through a security line just like tsa to be x-rayed. it's amazing to me this happened. obviously rule and regulations were not followed. >> does your gut tell you anything about the timeline in which this could end? >> probably within the next few days. >> candace delong good to see you, thanks so much. >> you too, alex take care. now a look at how newspapers are reporting what happened. the "press republican" in plattsburgh, new york, called it shedown. the from the city where richard matt met his demise, the "malone telegram" says" escapee killed. a sidebar story says "cheers, tears but still fear with sweat on the lam."

"one down one on the run" and "gotcha" is the "new york post" headline in keeping with its tabloid style. today in tunisia thousands of western tourists are attempting to flee the country following the terror attack on a beach resort friday that killed nearly 40 people. british travel agencies have set jets to the company to get their clients out and officials plan to shut down 80 mosques outside state control in order to curb islamist extremism. multiple intelligence and law enforcement officials tell nbc news there's growing concern for an isis-inspired attack in the u.s. through the fourth of july weekend. kristen welker is joining us. what are you hearing about these concerns and are they related to yesterday's attack in tunisia, france and kuwait? >> reporter: alex good afternoon. there's no doubt that what happened yesterday overseas has raised fresh concerns but jell jens officials say this new information about a possible threat on july 4 came about prior to those attacks.

intelligence officials telling nbc news the july 4 threat is "based on both intelligence and analysis but sources wouldn't get into details. they do stress however, alex and this is an important point, that there is no known specific plot at this point in time. it comes against the backdrop of one of the isis leaders calling for increased attacks worldwide. certainly there is no concern given that. but if you talk to expert, they say this is a new normal. we know isis is is trying to recruit people online through social media. this is something the obama administration has been focused on. they're trying to counter those messages. also concern about lone wohls. isis followers and sympathizers who might try to carry out attacks here and in other western countries. what does this mean? authorities asking people to be aware of their surroundings. certainly nothing new there on a major holiday. don't be surprised if you see extra security in some of those major public someplaces over the skbrul 4 weekend.

but bottom line no known specific threat intelligence officials are focused on. just a heightened sense of awareness. >> thank you, kristen. two activists are under arrest after one of them removed a confederate flag outside of south carolina's statehouse. you can see it here. officials say brittany newsome climbed up a flagpole and ignored aignore ignored a patrol officer's call to come down until she unhooked the flag. she's been charged with defacing a monument and the flag has been replaced with a new one. joining me, now sarah dallof from charleston, south carolina. sarah, i understand there has been some new activity near the statehouse. what can you tell us? >> good afternoon, alex. a crowd of less than 100 people showed up at the statehouse to hold a pro-confederate flag rally. they walked up the steps, about a dozen people carrying the confederate flags. we're told people are very fashion gnat but there have been no problems, no violence at this

protest so far. earlier this morning i had the opportunity to speak to reverend jesse jackson about these activists removing the flag from that flagpole in front of the statehouse. reverend jackson says he wasn't surprised by the news but rather delighted. he says activists always have a way of pushing change. >> the south must decide that the civil war is over. glorifying it is over. there's a southern heritage of whites who died in the war but a southern heritage of blacks who fought that against the war and the north who fought against that war. that war is behind us. the south must make a big decision to rejoin the union. >> meanwhile, another difficult day of funerals in charleston. two services honoring the live of three remarkable people. the funeral for cynthia lund is going on right now. she was a librarian at one of the busiest branchs in the county. it will be renamed in her honor.

one of her colleagues says because of her faith everyday she strived to become a better person and everyone around her was a better person because of that. in just a little bit the dual service, a joint service for 87-year-old susie jackson and her nephew tywanza sanders will be held. sanders, according to witnesses, tried to talk the gunman down tried to reason with him. when that didn't work sanders reportedly shielded his aunt with his own body. back to you. >> sarah dallof thank you for that. big celebration this is pride weekend following the supreme court's landmark ruling yesterday. in new york, two million people are expected at the pride pride tomorrow. multiple sclerosis multiple sclerosis nbc's mississippi adman so amanda sakuma is live in new york. >> reporter: just imagine, now

nearly 50 years later we're seeing marriage equality in all 50 states. this is even more significant going into pride week this week and it's also marking the two-year anniversary since the supreme court also struck down key elements of the defense of marriage act. we're see manager people out here coming to take -- snap pictures in front of this historic venue which was made a historic landmark by new york city this week. we spoke to people to talk about how they were personally impacted. here's what they had to tell us. >> it was a moment of just relief. relief. >> i have tons of friends who are just completely i can static about what they were seeing. it was fantastic to be there and support them. >> i have a young son who's gay and he came home for lunch and he ran up the driveway with tears in his eyes and we hugged and it's a very happy day.

>> we expect there to be more celebrations coming here later on tonight but for now things are quiet. back to you, alex. >> amanda sakuma thank you so much. there's a line of opposition to the supreme court's ruling on same-sex marriage that run us there many state capitals. why are several attorneys general expressing opposition to the decision? you listen. you laugh. you worry. you do whatever it takes to take care of your family. and when it's time to plan for your family's future we're here for you. we're legalzoom, and for over 10 years we've helped families just like yours with wills and living trusts. so when you're ready start with us. doing the right thing has never been easier. legalzoom. legal help is here. head & shoulders with old spice. america's number one male dandruff brand. keeping you 100% flake-free. guaranteed. while smelling 100% handsome. take a whiff.

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the governors of texas and louisiana are among a group of conservatives calling for legal protections for those who oppose same-sex marriage. meanwhile, mississippi's attorney general is among some officials who have ordered clerks in their state to hold off issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. joining me is the attorney general of south dakota and attorney general, i welcome you.

thank you for joining me. i understand several marriage licenses have been issued to same-sex couples in your state in south dakota. you have chosen to honor the ruling. what led you that decision? >> thank you for having me. as the state attorney general, it's always been my position that the people of my state should define marriage not our federal courts. but recognizing that we are a nation of laws and that the court has spoken in a majority opinion, south dakota has begun the process of issuing marriage licenses. that process included an updating of our vital records as well as the local officials at the county level that issue marriage licenses to begin issuing licenses. this began on friday. my understanding is there has only been a handful of license requests. i would anticipate that the majority of effect in some of the midwestern states will be not necessarily the issuing of licenses but the recognition of licenses being issued in other

states. >> sir, those in opposition say they do so on a matter of principle for many. it can be that. i'm curious with you. is it because you oppose the social and cultural movement or because you believe that what happened at the supreme court is really not following the law to a "t"? >> i've always been a believer in traditional marriage and, in fact, when you look at our state, it was important enough in our state to make a constitutional amendment. but we're a nation of laws. so my position as attorney general is that we need to respect the rule of law and that we need to do whatever is possible to follow the rule of law and that is what is occurring here in south dakota. i've had the support of our governor as well as several members of the legislature and so we're working to do what we can to make sure that we're following what the united states supreme court or at least five members of that court have indicated the constitution requires. >> what is public sentiment in the state of south dakota?

>> today i think it's fair to say that the elected officials in south dakota have overwhelmingly indicated that we remain supportive of traditional marriage but we have to respect the rule of law. and part of that respect is to make sure in following that rule of law that we nut place the ability for both the recognition and the licensing of same-sex couples. >> are you getting reaction from those doing the licensing? >> i've talked to a couple register of deeds. we've only had a handful of requests. to my knowledge we've had less than half a dozen. traditional marriage again, particularly in the midwest is something that is very important, that is embedded in several of our state constitutions so we have not really experienced what other areas in the united states are experiencing. given that though we have a system up in place and we are issuing marriage licenses. >> and attorney general jackly, what is your reaction to

officials and religious groups calling for religious exemptions for those who want to stay out of the gay marriage business. >> i've been asked that as attorney general and i've always been a very very strong supporter of the freedom of religion and i will continue to be that supporter. this decision makes it very clear that the states no longer have the right or the ability to define marriage. however there still remains a constitution the right of freedom of religion and we will respect that and work within that very important principle as we carry out with what the supreme court has indicated. >> marty jackly thank you very much for your time sir, appreciate it. >> thank you. how will the high court's two major rulings play out on the presidential campaign sflal that's next. and he left the white house in disgrace 40 years ago. how could former president richard nixon be helping boost tourism today? next. ♪♪

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refraction some 2016 republican hopefuls to the two big supreme court decision this is week. here's senate overted cruz on friday's same-sex marriage ruling. >> today's decision was a travesty. it was not constitutional. it was five unelected lawyers imposing their own rat cal views on this nation. what we saw today was five unelected judges setting aside the constitution and saying the preferences of over 300 million americans don't matter. joining me now, larry sabato director of the university of virginia center for politics. good to see you, my friend. the big question here of course senator ted cruz here's what bobby jindal tweeted "marriage between man and a woman was established by god and no earthly court can alter that." what do you make of these reactions? >> they are digging themselves a big hole alex.

i understand why they're doing it. the republican electorate is at least two-thirds opposed to marriage and among activists who turn up in places like iowa it's probably more like 0880% or 90%. they have to do this to get the nomination although they don't to go as far as jindal and cruz did. when one of them gets to the general election they're going to have a terrible dilemma because while only a third of republicans favor same-sex marriage, among democrats, it's three quarters and among independents it's more than two-thirds. and that includes those swing independents who in the end may well determine the result of the election. how do they pirouette? do they try and not talk about it? do they change their view which is i think is impossible in this day and time. sos that major dilemma for the eventual republican nominee. just to add one thing, alex. notice they're proposing different things.

jeb bush's statement was amusing. he's here, he's there, he's everywhere on this subject because he's trying to give himself an out if he's the nominee. you have scott walker, though proposing a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. just so people know and i'm sure most people do there is not just zero chance of such a constitutional amendment ever passing, it's absolute zero. no chance at all. so it's a dodge, that's all it is. >> i want to ask you about jeb bush in particular because based on what you've just said, that pivot that a lot of these republican candidates have to go through when you're playing to the primary voters and then you realize you have to play to the general election voters. what's what jeb bush said. "guided by my faith i believe in traditional marriage i believe the supreme court should have allowed the states to make this decision. i also believe that we should love our neighbor and respect others including those making lifetime commitments. in a country as diverse as ours good people who have opposing views should be able to live side by side. it's crucial as a country we

protect religious freedom and the right of conscience and not discriminate." so he has left himself wiggle room, if you will. isn't that a good tactic in some ways if he's thinking long-term? >> it could be. it depends on what the eventual democratic nominee does with i. i can also see tv ads of jeb bush debating jeb bush. he was against gay marriage before he was for it. or i can see ads with skreb bush debating george bush. remember, george bush won his reelection in 2004 in part by supporting constitutional amendments in key states like ohio to ban same-sex marriage. so just think what the campaigners and the tv consultants are going to do with this. >> can republicans win over middle-of-the-road voters with an anti-same-sex marriage stance in this day in age, in 2016? >> well, that's an easy

question, the answer is no. i hope there's a follow-up. um, okay i was going to switch to obamacare, but i'm going to sku ask you, what do you do then? if the answer is no again, looking at the primaries yes you have to get through them to get to the general but be a political strategist for a republican at this point. what do you do? >> what you do is you don't talk about it you try not to respond to the inevitable attacks coming from the democratic side. the democrats would be crazy not to use that as an issue in the general election. i'm sure they will. who's who's one of hillary clinton's best friends, assuming she's the nominee, i'm not saying for sure but it looks that way. one of her best friends, governor terry mcauliffe of virginia. he got elected almost entirely on the social issues like gay marriage. he was the first gubernatorial candidate from the south to come out in favor of gay marriage and

used it effectively in the 2013 campaign lots to wait and see about. we'll have you back many times before that election larry sabato thanks so much. >> thanks alex great to see you. just how dangerous and desperate is the remaining new york prison escapee becoming? a former inmate who was on the fbi's most-wanted list weighs in on that next. americans drink 48 billion bottles of water every year. that's enough plastic bottles to stretch around the earth 230 times. each brita filter can replace 300 of those. clean. clear. brita water. nothing is better.

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yes. i think they will catch him and i don't think he's going to talk when they do. let me give a point out there that's troubling. right now you're having commentators say they hope he either gets killed or he ends the way richard matt ends this is david sweat. we don't know what's going on in that prison. they already know that some of the guards aren't good they're either helping them, there could be abuses going on. you don't even know if this man -- i'm not sticking up for him per say, i'm saying we don't know the whole story what goes on. i know what goes on behind the walls and it's not pretty. and i can go into numbers here on your show but it's just troubling what i'm hearing. hear you had nine people get killed in charlotte and i love the outpouring of love for that community and even the people who lost people want to forgive and i'm not sticking up for david sweat, i'm just hearing a lot of vile and hatred. >> larry, you bring a unique

perspective but the fact is he is a convicted murderer. but take into context everything you've said. however, do you expect him to give up? i'm sure authorities would like that for the shear fact that he'd been able to give information and v v a better picture of what happened preceding the escape but do you think he deal what others have suggested? maybe death by police suicide? >> suicide by cop. >> right. right. >> i think, alex he's going to try to run. you never know what will happen. i think they want him alive but if they get him alive i don't think he'll tell time anything. here's why. there's no benefit for him to give up information about the guards, other inmates, an orderly that helped him or prison contract worker because he's not going to get anything out of it. he's already got a life sentence he'll be in confinement for the rest of his life in prison and if he did that, he would have the hatred of the cops we call them cops

prison guards and the inmates. so right now, you know, he's going to try to run. if he does get caught alive i don't think he'll give up information which the authorities want him to do, of course. >> larry escapes from maximum security prisons are ware. "usa today" reports that in new york in the five year span between' 09 and '13, just one inmate escaped from a maximum security prison. nine escaped from minimum or medium security facilities. authoritiesrecaptured all 10 within one day. so what is it about this escape that makes it unique. zbl( well i was in a prison where we had 808 lifers. in fact charlie harrelson, which is woody harrelson's father, with news the same prison united states penitentiary atlanta and he tried to escape that prison didn't make it, but they did have escaped and that was a maximum security prison with 40 foot walls going around the whole prison 20, feet underground. but people are thinking everyday

24/7 i used to sit in this that prison and think about how i could go v got out of this that prison in some way. i had what they called a date alex, that means you're getting out then you figure out what you want in life and how you made your mistakes which i always say it was mistakes i made. but i got a second chance with rehabilitation and a lot of good people in there, too, alex. there's of course people i don't want living next to you or me or my mother but there are some people who deserve a second chance. >> larry lawton i'm glad you got yours, thank you very much for your insights appreciate it. >> thank you alex. today, security officials from the u.s. to europe and the middle east have stepped up precautions following yesterday's three deadly terror attacks. in france investigators are searching for answers in the bizarre assault where a man caused an explosion at a chemical plant then left his boss' decapitated head at the site. joining me now from the scene of the atonight in saint-quentin

saint-quentin-fallavier france. what are you hearing? >> the authorities are trying to find out whether it was islamic terrorism. the prime minister in france says islamic terrorism has once again visited this nation or whether this was a workplace violence case 35-year-old yassim sali. he was taken into custody, his wife is also in custody. they're being is interrogated by police trying to get to the bottom of. this as you noted, he is alleged to have killed his boss chopping his boss' head off and placing it at the entrance to this chemical factory. which is owned by an american company and placing two islamic flags on either side and it's believe he scrawled according to witness, a message on his boss' head that says "there is no god but god and mohammed is his prophet." so that leads people to believe perhaps it may have something to do with islamic terrorism.

in this community, folks have gathered here today shocked by what has happened and they paused for a moment of sigh lenz. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ singing the french national anthem ] >> it's remarkable seeing these people breaking into the national anthem. i'm just curious about the gruesome nature of this attack. does it have people frightened in the community or do they think it's specific to this particular chemical plant? >> it's so weird. it would have the hallmarks of

having all these gruesome islamic inspired murders that we have seen where somebody's head is chopped off and placed for full display. the message scrawled on the forehead. the flags there. by the same token, there's no strong indication that this was necessarily inspired by some sort of call for violence. and where this was timed for what also happened interestingly, almost the exact time as what took place in tunisia and kuwait. so authorities are trying to drill down to the bottom of this. at this point they can't answer. the folks who live in this area are horrified. because it turns out there was no widespread death and the destruction, i think there's a sense of a little bit more ease in the situation. had he been successful because it appears he was trying to take some of the chemicals here, including acetone, and cause them to explode, it could have been a very different story. >> given you are in france i

will say merci. appreciate it. the supreme court's ruling legalizing same-sex marriage seal's president obama's legacy on marriage equality but it also set up new legal battles against same-sex couples. joining me now is congressman jerry paulus a democrat from colorado. congressman, as a gay man who is married with children, what does the supreme court's ruling mean to you? >> well you know it couldn't be more exciting. it's a little-known fact that the first same-sex marriages in our country were right here in boulder, colorado, in 1975. the same year that i was born. and the clerk that did them back in '75, clela rorax, a young lady and our town clerk at the time, she celebrated at the steps of the boulder county courthouse along with me and hundreds of other people. what started in boulder, colorado, has become our constitutional right nationally. >> i can bet you're jubilant to say the least. we are learning about officials in some states and conservative groups starting to set up new

legal battles based on religious freedom. what do you make of that as their argument to protect traditional marriage. >> each faith can define marriage in their own context and it's always been that way and will. for instance, catholics won't marry people who've been divorced, they won't marry people of the same sex, that's fine. i happen to be jewish, we have branches of reform judaism that has been doing same sex unions for decades, others like orthodox judaism that aren't likely to do ever do same-sex marriages. that's the beauty of religious freedom. people can associate with the religion of their choice but at least those religions that allow same-sex unions will be accepted civically as well. >> but when you get back to capitol hill sir, and talk with your colleagues who want to undo this law, do you think they may reverse their thinking when they talk to people like you, their colleagues, who as a gay man really married children you're

trying to create a home like they would. >> i think that's really what's helped win over the hearts and minds of our friends and neighbors and fellow americans and it's the same in congress where there's six lgbt members of the house and senate and several have kids themselves and really just like your friend and neighbor might be gay, your co-worker might be gay and your colleague in the united states congress might be gay. >> how much do you think when those are going to vote on issues like this when they're there on capitol hill how much do you think they ultimately reflect their -- whom they believe are their elected constituents, the people that put them there, or their own personal feelings. i'm always wondering about that on these controversial issues. >> i would say like americans as a whole. the best way to look at congress 4, 435 people in the house, is a microcosm of the country.

off few true believers, you might have 10 20 30 40 members of congress that get angry at. this you have others that grudgingly don't like it didn't grow up that way. it's inconsistent with their faith but they're okay with it at the end of the day. they won't protest it too much. it'slike your thanksgiving table with your crazy conservative uncle and mainstream republican cousins and your liberal grand aunt and everybody else. that's the beauty of the house of representatives, the people's body. >> that's what made thanksgiving interesting. >> sure does makes everyday at work really interesting too, alex. >> i bet it does. representative jared polis, thank you very much. it may look like a home sweet home but thanks to the so-called watcher it's become a house of haunts and a legal nightmare for two new jersey families.

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million dollar plus home in westfield, new jersey. it began when the family started getting threatening notes just a few days after closing on their new house. the notes were signed by someone calling himself "the watcher" who claims the right of ownership. here's one of the chilling notes "i have been put in charge of watching and waiting for its second coming." another one reads "do you need to fill the house with the young blooded requested? once i know their namesly call to them and draw them out to me." then there was a separate letter dated back in june which he wrote "i am pleased to know your names now and the name of the young blood you have brought to me. will the young bloods play in the basement?" yikes! fearing for their child's safety, the family left and they're suing the previous owners for "knowingly and willfully failing to disclose the home's history." joining me now is lisa green, legal analyst and author of "on your case." with a welcome to you lisa. we can talk about the creepiness of this story for ages but does the family have a legal case

here? >> before we get to that i just want to say i don't begrudge anyone the right to live a peaceful life at home. we all want to go home shut that door you know and just a peaceful life. we all want to go home and close the door. it is not clear that family can get damaged in this lawsuit. in the beginning it was buying beware. you could sell anything to anyone. it was up to them. now there are disclosures, but it doesn't extend to the case of the mystery writer. >> but there are two notes they are trying to use. i have been put in charge of watching and waiting for its second coming. the second one. this home has been the subject of my family for decades. and i want to elaborate and it was written from the grandfather of the watcher was looking at this house in the 1920s and the

father in the 1960s. so is this enough to prove their point? >> it is just super creepy. but being super creepy frightening, unsetting doesn't mean the sellers are responsible for repairing this. here is an anogales. there is something in the law called stigmatized houses or haunted, came to a bad end or perhaps a suicide. generally speaking the law is the seller isn't obligated to tell you. if you ask, a buyer says anything bad happen in this house, you are obligated to tell the truth. the law isn't equipped to deal with an issue just like this and when what the law has to do is balance the laws of the buyer to understand what is going on in the house and the rights of the seller to make the transactions. so we're not up to the point legally yet where we have laws that say if you are the

recipient of terrifying notes, you need to cough that up to the buyers. remember here also we're just hearing the buyer's point of view we don't know yet what the seller knew, whether the seller got a letter and whether the letter seemed as scary to the sellers of the house as it clearly does to the buyers. >> so they've been trying to sell the house and they are having trouble doing so because of the letters. so what happens here? >> yeah. one of the interesting things here is the legal strategy. now pretty much everyone on the globe knows this particular house is subject to the threatening letters. that has to be a real estate broker's nightmare. the community is apparently looking into who the letter writer is. i think that is a better point of view in terms of apprehending the wrong doer. there is a case out of san diego where a woman was so angry she lost a bidding war for a house she started to traumatize the winners, and she was found and

found guilty of stalking and sentenced and if they could find the letter writer that would make the community calmer at night. >> and solve this mystery because it is creepy. lisa green, good to see you. >> thank you so much. a big ban on selfie sticks. the when, when and why, up next. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... that's huge for my bottom line. what's in your wallet? bring us your aching and sleep deprived. bring us those who want to feel well rested. aleve pm. the only one to combine a sleep aid... plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. be a morning person again, with aleve pm.

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