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devastating terror attacks on friday leaving 38 dead at a tunisia beach resort and 30 dead at the kuwaitty mosque. this came as isis militants launch a surprise assault on syria killing hundreds of civilians months after kurdish fighters won back the city. is the strategy still working? joining me now is democratic u.s. senator chris murphy member of foreign relations committee and appropriations committee. he also just joined the board at west point. >> thanks for having me. >> listen is u.s. -- you hear about these isis attack is the united states at risk for that type of attack we saw this past week? >> i mean you know what we hear from authorities in the intelligence community and that's a standard line. they say we have no evidence that there are any credible threats against the united states from isis. but i imagine that that's what the tunisian authorities would

have said before this attack. all it takes is for one individual even a rogue entity maybe not directly coordinated with isis to take inspiration from that organization. there can be dozens dead. so from the very start, that's why many of us have said we have to take isis seriously because yes, if they were to establish control of an autonomous control over a big swath of territory, they could use that for highly coordinated sophisticated attacks. it doesn't take a high level of sophistication to pull off something like tunisia. i think the united states is always at risk of attack not just isis from a half dozen other terrorist groups around the world. we have to take them all seriously and why, patrick, as you know, we have to be serious about the ways in which you actually reduce their ability to harm us. it's not just about military attacks from the united states and our allies but about trying to diagnose why so many people are signing up getting to the

root cause of the growth of these organizations. >> i mean you talk about it takes one attack. you look at these -- some of these attacks are lone wolves and that's what we get worried about. is the united states doing enough to stop the inspiration behind these attacks and when you look at we're doing a good job with the air strikes in iraq and syria, but what about here? >> that's what's frustrating for many of us it was unbelievable that we were talking at the beginning of this year about shutting down the department of homeland security. republicans in the congress came within about 24 hours of shutting down the department of homeland security. why? because they were upset about too many undocumented immigrants coming into the united states and too many of us it seemed as if republicans hated immigrants more than they hated terrorists. we clearly aren't serious enough about funding homeland security to the right number. and we're having a debate right

now about removing these budget caps what are call sequestration for the department of defense but not for a lot of the homeland security programs that protect us. i don't think right now we're having a serious conversation. it's not just about funding the tomahawk missiles but making sure our borders are hardened in the united states. then as you've referenced, we've got to have a broader conversation making sure we're conducting our foreign policy that provides for less recruitment tools rather than more. that's why so many of us are concerned about the suggestions that we put another 10 20 30,000 ground troops back into iraq or syria. in the end, i think that would breed more terrorists than it kills. >> and i think your point -- alluding to the hearts and minds of the iraqi people and moderate sunnis in that region. how about along those lines, the

pentagon admitted that far behind schedule only about 100 to 200 are undergoing training. there's supposed to be 5,000 per year. is this program working from your perspective? >> no it's not working. in my mind it was doomed to fail from the beginning. there are reports that we've trained maybe a couple hundred so-called syrian moderate rebels. this is a program that just wasn't going to make a difference. in part because i know this sounds harsh, but moderates aren't the ones that fight. it's the people that really have either the idealogical or social -- or economic axe to grind. so we have not done a very good job training these so-called mod pratts to the extent that the good guys within the syrian civil war have made any advances on assad, they've only done it by standing arm in arm with al qaeda, and other like minded organizations.

so there's really no viable partner on the ground in syria today, which is why many of us think we should focus resources on driving isis out of iraq rather than trying to get involved in a syrian civil war which might end up aligning the united states with the very people that attacked us on september 11th. >> senator, how about realistically, what do you expect syria and iraq to look like one or two years from now? >> i think there's much more hope in iraq. i don't want to overstate the local organizational strength of isis. they have certainly made gains as you noted and putting on right now a new offensive in co-banny. we have done a job of isolating their strength to the sunni areas. they can't break into shia neighborhoods or towns in iraq. their financing sources are drying up. they are strong no doubt about it but they are certainly much

walker weaker now that the united states provided this significant military campaign support. iraq two years from now, can be a place in which if isis isn't gone, it is significantly marginalized. syria is a different story. ultimately we've got to be part of a political solution in syria whereby our adversaries like russia and iran come to the table to try plot away forward. if they are not on the table, it's hard to figure out any way to end of carnage. but iraq being stabilized helps us get to a political solution inside syria for a variety of reasons. >> we think about ten years ago, joe biden talked about partitioning iraq into three, sunni, shia and kurds. do you foresee any type of separation in iraq between sunnis and shia and kurdish state? >> i think it's necessary. i'm not sure i buy the notion we should divide the country into three completely separate and

distinct nations but there needs to be more devel ugs of power. if we put another 500 troops we shouldn't do it until a body guarantees he's going to devofl a significant amount of power to the kurds and sunni neighborhoods. one of the reasons ramadi fell was because abadi and before him, maliki wouldn't stand up a significant military presence in ramadi, led by sunnis because he didn't want to empower a group that threatened his own power. i don't think we've driven a hard enough bargain with this guy and maybe it's not a kurdish state and sunni state but it's much more power in those regions and united states has got to require that if we're going to put in any more money, any more troops. >> it's politics. everyone has to be skin in the game. senator, abadi has been in office the prime minister of iraq has been in office ten months now and as you mentioned

we saw how maliki's predecessor atribt buted to the flare-up but is there enough you're seeing from abadi that he's doing enough. what kind of skin in the game does i need to give for us to feel more comfort there? >> i don't think we've seen enough. if i have any critique of the obama administration inside iraq and i have generally supported their strategy there, it's that we have not driven a hard enough bargain with him before putting in the 3,000, 4,000 troops we have today. we've been hearing all about the sunni national guard for four years now. we haven't seen it stood up. we need more power devofled to the kurdish region and agreement on the sharing of revenues and need the central government have kurds and sunnis in significant positions of power. we haven't seen that either. there are pretty easy benchmarks, ones we can measure and one we can hold abadi too.

we have to start saying to him. if you don't hit benchmarks in six months and address the real underlying political marginalization that drives sunnis to isis we're not going to stay with you. it makes no sense for us to be putting american lives at risk if abadi is doing enough about actually addressing the reasons why sunnis in other parts of his country are joining isis notwithstanding the fact they don't actually agree idealogically. they are doing it because they will join anybody that will fight baghdad as long as they don't feel part of that government. >> let me switch gears to iran. we know we have two days left until the deadline for a nuclear deal. nbc is hearing there are serious disagreements at this point and one of the big issues is the inspections of military sites. this past week the ayatollah says it's out of the question that these inspections should occur. should that actually derail the deal from your perspective? >> i think it should. i'm not sure wian agreement is

worth while if there are significant military installations that we can't see. remember we would never ask to see these military installations unless we had credible evidence that there was some covert nuclear operation happening there. so i hope there's a path forward by which we can assure the iranians that we're not going to be snooping around military sites for the sake of snooping around. of course, it takes a majority vote of the p5 plus 1 to set that process in place. but, all of us are only supporting this 10-year window with a minimum one-year breakout time because the inspections last much longer than ten years. the inspections last 25 years and more. but if they are not real inspections, it's not really a deal worth entering into. >> senator, thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate you. one of the brightest leaders on capitol hill, thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> how one group is trying to

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welcome back to "taking the hill." we've seen the movies and for some of us may be the reason why we join the military in first place. how accuratery are soldiers and veterans portrayed in films? a veteran service organization that works with television producers and film makers to make sure hollywood gets it right. i sat down with chris marvin and we discussed his mission to help

his fellow veterans. >> got your six is focused on changing the national narrative around veterans from charity and pity and focus on leadership and empowerment so that when communities have receipt rans re reinterest great, they are seeing them as assets to help reinvigorate our communities and help make our communities stronger. >> how about -- i know you've partnered with michelle obama and cooper and other folks in hollywood. describe the perception in hollywood. a lot of military movies have come out "hurt locker" and more recently "lone survivor" and "american sniper." can you describe what you're seeing? >> one of the tactics that got your six has taken to try to change this national narrative is the look of film and television. we know film and television provide a lot of the narrative that regular americans receive

whether it's about veterans or other issues. because americans don't have a chance to know a veteran or young veteran in person they take their cues from what they see on the screen. so for us working with the major studios and networks and agencies has been a major strategy. we want to talk to content creators and talk to writers and producers and make sure that when they are portraying veterans on film and television that they are portraying them reasonably and accurately. we recently launch with the first lady and bradley cooper a program called six certified at an event in d.c. this year. we have already recently announced the first six films and television projects that are six certified and portraying veterans reasonably and accurately. we think there are projects that are doing really well right now. we think it's probably a little bit better than it used to be

but there's a lot of room for improvement. at the end of the day, we don't see enough veterans on tv and when we see them they are sort of pigeonholed into the veteran stereo type of a broken veteran or of a veteran who is a hero. we're kind of looking for what's in the middle. that's a really important portrayal and something we need to get to the american public. >> we'll have to figure out a way to get taken six certified. retired general former centcomm commander said there's no room for military people including our veterans to see themselves as victims. cynicism is just another way to give up. talk to us about your views on post-traumatic growth. >> i think that everybody knows the term post traumatic stress disorder, it's been tethered to the post 9/11 and iraq and afghanistan veterans for a few years now.

i think originally with really good intentions to build awareness. the first step first part of this thought process is post trau mat he can stress disorder is not something owned by the veteran community. it happens to millions of americans every year whether or not they've been in the military, 95% of the people in this country dealing with ptsd didn't serve in the military. it's really important that car crashes and assaults and when lose a loved ones can cause ptsd. in both those events and traumatic events in combat that's not the only thing that can happen to people. we've been doing a lot of thinking and talking about this recently and come to this conclusion there's a couple of phrases and words and terminologies missing from the military and the military mental health conversations in this country. that's resilience and post-traumatic growth. that quote frames it perfectly,

veterans don't want to be victims. i think the most veterans would echo that sentiment. and so if we can sort of ingest concepts like post-traumatic growth 'resilience into the conversation, without diminishing the important conversations we're having about post-traumatic stress disorder but saying there's a positive side to this it's not a foreign concept. it's something we're not talking about. and to point that out, it's something we've all heard, actually. if you go all the way back to the 19th century, there's a floss fehr who gave us this statement that we've all heard, that which did not kill us makes us stronger. veterans more than anybody probably know that and believe that. we think it's time to talk more about it. >> you have former president john f. kennedy who said it wasn't -- wouldn't be president of the united states and others. you have the data to break this up.

i was with you when you were with bob mcdonald and announced the new veterans civic health index. describe to us the metrics behind that and what that is exactly? >> we've been saying for a long time that veterans are civic assets. because of their time in the military, because of the leadership training and team building and problem solving skills, that they are -- should come back into our communities and help to strengthen our communities. also, of course, if you talk about post-traumatic growth and resilience what they've endured in combat makes them stronger as well. they'll be better citizens. we've been saying it for a long time but didn't have the data to prove it until now. a couple of months ago we with secretary bob mcdonnell from the department of veterans affairs, announced the results of the civil health index. it was a partnership of the national conference on citizenship who does these indexes for cities all across

the country and gives you civic health of a specific community. we looked at old veterans and young veterans and show that veterans volunteer more than civilian counterparts, vote more often, more likely to help neighbors and belong to a civic organization. basically, all indicators of civic health are increased with someone who has been in the military. >> we have about 90 seconds left. veterans vote more than other civilians in elections. it's 2016. are the presidential candidates paying attention to veterans and should they?e always paying attention to veterans. we might worry how solid the grasp of who veterans are is. it's not about patriotism or pandering to veterans it's about talking about what veterans believe in. from our studies, about coming home and being a good citizen

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welcome back. on this week's installment of we salute you, we turn to the upcoming triumph games, selected 12 world class veteran athletes all around the country, training to compete later this summer in three rounds of heart pounding competition. the games highlight the veterans as their minds, bodies and courage are tested once again. their stories overcoming odds are inspirational. a few days ago i joined the terrific 12 as they began training at johnson & johnson's human performance institute in orlando, florida. >> al roker, we are thrilled to introduce to you the triumph games. >> i'm co-hosting with al roker for a sports special that follows the athletes through hometown training to the competition. we salute the triumph games for telling veterans success stories, you meet and follow the

terrific 12 terrific 12 at 2015 triumph games.com. we can't wait to see this nbc sports special this october. it's been 50 years since the start of the vietnam war, one of the most controversial conflicts in our country's history. nearly 3 million veterans served there. when they returned home few got the home coming that they deserved. that changed this month for hundreds of veterans. we get more from medal of honor recipient recipient, colonel jack jacobs. >> reporter: home comings like these have been woven in our nation's fab trick for the last decade. welcoming home american forces from iraq and afghanistan. but for many who fought this the vietnam war, there was nothing welcome about coming home. >> i came through oakland, i got

trashed. >> i was ostracized and spit on beat on. and employers wouldn't hire me. i wanted to be welcomed home. i didn't get that when i came home. >> let's make some noiz today. >> reporter: hundreds of vietnam veterans from all over the southeast gathered at fort stewart for the home coming they never had. >> is this the kind of thing you think that helps some veterans feel like they are finally appreciated for what they did? >> i don't think people realized the depth of feeling that those soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines from vietnam feel. >> reporter: more than 48,000 american troops died in the vietnam war and thousands of others have endured the physical an emotional scars for decades. for these veterans and families this welcome home ceremony runs far deeper than a belated thank you. >> it's long overdue. they deserve the rights to all

of the other veterans have. >> reporter: it's a reminder that every war is an indelible memory for all of those who fought for each other. what does today mean to you? >> freedom. >> why did you come out in the first place? >> i wanted it. i needed it. >> you needed it. >> i wanted to be welcomed home and i was. >> thanks for your service. >> thank you for your service. >> it was an honor to be in uniform like i know it was for you too. and welcome home brothers. >> colonel jack jacobs nbc news fort stewart, georgia. thanks to jack jacobs and all vet et nam veterans for their service. it's good we've learned to separate war from warrior and making things right. isis has claimed responsibility tore the deadly terror attacks in tunisia and kuwait. could the u.s. be next? use the #taking the hill. e yours with a down payment and 10% financing. oh larry, lawrence. thanks to the tools and help at experian.com,

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for the july fourth weekend federal law officials have warned local authorities there could be coming here's the chairman of the homeland security committee in the house this morning. >> i'm extremely concerned about the way these syrian isis recruiters can use the internet to recruit followers in the united states with thousands of followers in the united states and then activate them to do whatever they want to do military installations, law enforcement or possibly a fourth of july event parade. >> and nbc's kristen welker joins us from the white house. what more are you hearing about these concerns? >> well we know the attorney general and homeland security director have reached out to law enforcement officials in major cities across the country. the concern is that isis is

calling for increased attacks because it's the month of ramadan, because it's the fourth of july. and that these calls are happening online through social media. now, i am told from my sources that there's no specific plot that's a very important point to underscore, however, there's just a heightened sense of concern because of this increased activity online. these concerns have been in place for several weeks but there's no doubt according to intelligence officials that the attack we saw overseas on friday heightened the sense of fear. lawmakers have been briefed on this as well. here's what peter king had to say earlier today. >> more concerned now than any time since september 11th. as you said there are lone wolf attacks but isis they have a multilevel sense of operation. it's not just the lone wolves but there can be coordination among these so-called lone wolves out there. >> so what does this mean for the fourth of july? well, i'm told based on moo

conversations that you might see beefed up security where there is a lot of public activity. intelligence officials also calling on the public to be extra vigilant having said that, people should go out and enjoy their fourth of july holidays. this is the new normal. that is what officials here in washington, d.c. are saying given this new threat from isis that this is something that the united states is going to have to adapt to and at these times, these big holidays everyone is just going to have to be a little more vigilant and aware. back to you. >> we appreciate the update. >> these threats come amid devastating terror attacks this past week. isis is now claimed responsibility for the shooting of a tunisian beach resort that killed nearly 40 people. and u side bombing that killed nearly 30. joining me now is democratic congressman brendan boyle and congressman, thanks for joining

us today. >> thanks for having me on. >> congressman, what are you hearing about july fourth threats? >> well i can tell you that beginning from the opening retreat weekend that we had in a bipartisan basis for new members back in january, the fbi director flat out said to us that the single thing that concerns him the most is the so-called lone wolf attack. the kind of person who can become radicalized sitting in their basement or apartment, whether it be a suburb of columbus ohio or new york city or anywhere basically in the united states or the world. the fact that isis and its affiliates around the world is now calling on those people to act where they are, rather than coming to syria and to iraq and fight there but instead to strike where you actually live this becomes much more difficult

to combat. we are aware of the challenge. i think we should be realistic and just what a difficult challenge it is to combat. at the same time, as kristen welker pointed out, this is the new normal. and the idea that we as americans 310 million of us the idea we're going to sit in our homes and be coward and not celebrate the fourth of july isn't realistic. we have to carry on knowing there is still that threat out there. >> i would agree with you and especially in philly where you represent, we have the made in america concert coming july 4th beyonce and others. let's talk about overseas. isis has claimed responsibility tunisia and kuwait have you seen a direct operational link to isis there? >> well i think that's vague at the moment although it wouldn't surprise me. i believe isis is interestingly claimed credit for two of the

three attacks and didn't claim credit for the one in france, which affected air products an american company based in allentown, pennsylvania i wouldn't be surprised if the penitentiary who did the attack isn't of the ideology of hatred that isis preaches. it's interesting congressman king on one of the other shows chairman of homeland security pointed out it's actually both. we have to some degree the lone wolf actors and at the same time we have a certain degree of coordination among the different isis affiliates i wouldn't be surprised if it was a combination of the two. >> how does the u.s. gain the upper hand in the pr fight against isis? they are kind of driving this inspired attacks. what more could be done? >> that to me is kind of the most frustrating part.

he was the country that in many ways invented the graphics and sort of masked media tools that isis, a group that wants to return civilization back a couple mill len ya has proved adapt by using modern tools of communication and social media. i think that -- i raise this at a foreign affairs hearing with the state department that we have to do far better at making a real investment online not just obviously through the traditional ways that we're doing in terms of defense spending and intelligence spending, but actually have a counter offensive online to make sure that we are also combatting them there where they have frankly been far more successful than we have. the idea that american teenagers in denver would up and leave and get on a plane and attempt to

fight in syria is very hard to fathom and yet we see that's happening. >> no doubt about it about hearts and minds. you recently delivered a floor speech demanding congress put together and vote on authorization for use of military force, aumf. is that finally going to happen? >> i wish i could say yes, we finally for the first time since i've been a member here which has only been six months debated on the house floor thanks to a resolution that jim mcgovern and barbara lee and few others put forward. that was the only reason why we even had that debate. it's sort of the worst of the political system right now because the president put forward an aumf. you had republicans who don't like president obama very much who attacked it from the right. and then you had a number of democratic members that are uncomfortable with what going into iraq to begin with in 2002

for understandable reasons, but unfortunately, we've just allowed that debate to stop right there. rather than saying in some way we need to craft an authorization that makes clear that we need to fight isis that they are a dangerous threat that cannot be contained and be negotiated with. at the same time do so in such a way we don't inadvertently give a future president a decade from now the authorization to invade a country that we're not even thinking of at the moment. 13 months ago, if we -- we wouldn't have been talking about isis. we didn't even know the acronym, we're seeing what a major battle that we have to face against them there's no question that months and years from now, there will be some other threat and many members are too afraid to vote for something that will have unintended consequences and that fear is preventing them from having the debate that we

should be having. it is our obligation to have that debate. >> i couldn't agree more with you. we need the political class of the country to put their ya or nay on the line. we're sending american sons and daughters to fight for us. thank you, we appreciate it. >> all right, thank you. >> up next what as a country are we doing to help the next generation of student veterans? join us on twitter using #taking the hill.

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joining me now is retired four-star general george case siscy and wayne robinson left the army as command sergeant major and previously an operations sergeant in delta force. gentlemen, thank you both for joining me on "taking the hill". >> thanks nice to be with you. >> appreciate it. wayne, let me go to you first, what's the mission of sva and what more needs to be done. >> thank you, patrick. that's a great question. the mission of the sva is to provide the resources, support and advocacy needed for student veterans that transition on to college campuses. and while the g.i. bill is great, it's a great starter, there are lots of issues as in the piece that you shared earlier with veterans that were

rereturning from vietnam. some of the things they talked about, the jobs. these are not new issues but sva started in 2008 to address these issues that we've known for years and years. so we want to be able to help our assist student veterans transition from the military on to a campus support them while in -- while attending college and then be able to assist in their transition from higher education, into high growth and command careers. >> you look at the return investment that the world war ii generation gave it's a no brainer for this generation. >> exactly. >> general, let me turn to you. when you look at -- when you're a soldier and you know is the military leadership doing enough to prepare these soldiers and troops for life after their military service? >> pat, i think they've been doing a lot of good work recently to improve their

transition programs. and this started with the heroes act in 2011. and they've been with the military has been working closely with the veterans administration and with the department of labor to improve their transition programs. frankly, we weren't doing all we could in the past to help our veterans prepare to transition. i've been involved with these -- the student veterans of america for about three years now. and i got involved because i felt this was a population that could have a very significant impact on the united states of america. and what i see student veterans of america is as being is an organization where veterans are helping veterans build american economic capital and grow next generation of american leaders. >> we had a segment earlier on

veterans of civic assets and changing the narrative of broken heroes or victims compared to great americans coming back and being business owners or et cetera. are you et cetera. wayne, you were enlisted i was an officer in the army. are you seeing the differences on how it is being used post-9/11 gi bill between officers and enlisted? >> not necessarily in what they're pursuing but where they start. generally we found during our study where we computed the graduation rates of service members, period. we saw that about 85% of those that graduate start at a community college. generally officers are going to start because they have a degree at the grad level school but the support needed is the same where -- whether they start at a community college or whether they start at a grad school. >> great.

general, you spent your entire adult life and career in the army. you know the level of education and training these soldiers receive. does it get us the respect you think from the civilian world, the corporate world? >> i think it does and i think it is growing. it's interesting, there was a conference board report which is a business intelligence organization in new york several years ago that asked employers what are the skills that you're looking for in the people that you're hiring. they were looking for professionalism, the ability to work as a member of a team the ability to communicate, good ethics and acceptance of personal responsibility and the ability to solve problems. and that's all the skills that these men and women that i observed in some of the most difficult environments imaginable already have with it. so with the educational benefits they're getting from the gi bill, i really believe that they're going to be a significant factor in moving the country forward.

>> wayne, probably last question. i have about 60 seconds. you left the military you got your mba from the university of chicago at booth. you went to wall street. how was your transition from the military to civilian life and what attributes helped you make that transition? >> my transition was tough because what i was trying to get across was the value of the enlisted service member and while you and i having both served understand what the command star major brings to the table, we also understand what that e-4 of any service brings to the table. striving to communicate that to colleges and to businesses was tough. so that's one of our big pushes what most don't realize is that one-third of those studying utilizing gi bill benefits that our vets are focusing on s.t.e.m., science technology engineering and math degrees.

we're quite excited going forward and i think that with shows like this it properly positions us for a bright future. >> there is no doubt there is a bright future for you and so many veterans out there. >> thank you. >> general george casey, command sergeant may jorpjor wayne johnson thanks so much. a final thought next. you're watching "taking the hill" on msnbc. ♪ (vo) you can pass down a subaru forester. (dad) she's all yours. (vo) but you get to keep the memories. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. [ female announcer ] it balances you... it fills you with energy... and it gives you what you are looking for to live a more natural life.

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