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everyone's raving! age defy from clairol the secret? superior gray coverage that leaves hair looking 10 years younger age defy from clairol every jail we have ever visited there usually are troublemakers and they make for compelling television.
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>> why don't you come over here and do something about it? >> some of the reasons we like to cover these stories is because, one, we get a chance to see how the officers control the troublemakers. each facility has a different strategy on how to do this. >> you're a dead man when i get on the street. all of you. >> this is my [ bleep ] arm. >> also, spending enough time with them, you get to peel back some of the layers and get to find out there's usually a story underneath. >> and when we travel to a part of the country with a reputation for cowboys, big oil and wicked weather, we not only found troublemakers -- >> i'm not doing [ bleep ]. you're hurting me for nothing. >> in oklahoma at the tulsa county jail, with most of the inmates charged with crimes and just awaiting trial -- >> don't [ bleep ] me, dude. >> we met a sergeant who says he's come to understand why some inmates have a propensity for causing trouble. >> some of these people they're
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coping skill is to act out. that's the only way to get attention to get their issues solved. what are small issues to us are large issues for the inmates. and if you have somebody controlling you 24 hours a day, 7 hours a day, when to shower, when to have a phone, can and can't visit, we control every aspect, little things are important to these people. >> one of the hotbeds for trouble at any jail is booking department where inmates first arrive upon their arrests. most go through the often lengthy process without incident. during our shoot, kenneth whitty is arrested of illegal possession of a firearm and drunk driving and he was already on probation, as well. >> he falls into the category of someone that just has poor coping skills. >> while waiting to be processed, he's moved a chair near the pay phone to sit while
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talking. it is the type of mild rule violation usually quickly resolved by a detention officer. >> sir! don't sit in the chair while you're on the phone. push it back. you want to go to a holding cell? >> this is kenneth whitty. he threw a chair across the booking floor. he wanted to resist against us. he was just agitated and doesn't want to do what he's told to do. >> come here. come here. >> as officers lead him to a holding cell, he continues to resist. >> he stepped towards me. i pushed him into the wall. got his arms behind his back, continued to resist. placed him on the floor, placed him in hand restraints. >> he continues to struggle all the way to the holding cell. >> we'll have them lay down, where we can leave the cell and stay there on the belly until we shut the door for our safety so
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they don't try to spit on us or kick us. >> that was eight months earlier. since then, whitty is a well-known inmate but the days were numbered. he was convicted on the charges of driving under the influence and illegal possession of a firearm and sentenced to ten years. during our shoot, he was awaiting transfer to prison. >> he was a problem child from the word go. >> spent the majority of his time due to a lengthy disciplinary record. >> it's color. let me put it that way. >> i needs meds! >> mostly the problems i have had with him is his disrespect. >> go put a shirt on. >> no. >> he tends to be vulgar. always agitated. doesn't really listen. he wants things when he wants them and you have to wait. he starts to screaming. >> he goes from 0 to 150 in 2.1
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seconds. he has no median ground coming the elevation of his anger. >> when it came to speaking with us, he took on a different demeanor. >> how do you pronounce your last name? >> whitty. >> whitty? >> yeah. i think it fits me. >> when i first started dealing with kenneth, i found him to be very much like a child. he was very funny. he was very sarcastic. he was very much the clown. >> all right? undue force. >> but he also like a child lacked impulse control. he could act out in a heart beat negatively not getting what he wanted. >> one technique to get his way is known as taking the bean hole hostage. >> bean hole is how we give the clothes, cuff them up. sometimes they hold the bean hole hostage and we're not allowed to shut it. we could risk slamming their arm or hand in the door.
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>> how many times have you taken the bean hole hostage? >> a few. but the thing is, i take it when i'm trying to make a point. >> we were filming in the seg unit and started hearing this commotion and it turned out to be kenneth whitty holding his bean hole hostage. >> staff say they recently removed a roll of toilet paper because he was hoarding them. >> i need toilet paper. blowing my nose. snufling. i took two [ bleep ]. snot running into my [ bleep ] mouth. you were telling me we don't have any. i need it. it's running through my face. you're not getting this [ bleep ] unless i get the toilet paper. >> come on. come on. >> [ bleep ].
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>> a lot of what isn't necessarily always seen on our show is all of the other stuff that's going on. the one officer in seg is dealing with all the other inmates in that unit and there's a tremendous amount to do. he wasn't saying he wasn't going to give him the toilet paper. before he could leave to get it, he had to shut the bean hole door. >> the deputy comes over to assist with the situation. >> get your arm in there. >> i don't have time to get the toilet paper. >> i asked for it all day. why do i have to be the one that waits? >> if i could find you some, would that do for now? >> my allergies have been killing me for the last like four days. i blow my nose like every 15 minutes, man. >> okay. >> so half a roll or something like that, all i need. >> all right. i'm going to close it up and get you some paper, all right? >> appreciate it, man. >> all right. >> i'm not trying to undermine
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you. i don't want to seem like i'm going over you. this is your pod. him being one of your more troubled ones, verbal ones, you know what? let's just quiet him down and don't have to waste your time later. >> man, i'm going do give it to you. no issues the rest of the night. right? >> i'll be on my best behavior. >> okay. you do that. >> you're a man of your word. i appreciate it. >> i am. we have to be here, right? only way you get respect around here. >> all you got. >> that's right. >> i appreciate it, man. >> no problem. >> it's all good now. my nose is dry. >> he's going to remain in seg. i won't deal with him anymore. i don't have the time to. >> i need a mop, man. >> whitty says causing problems for staff is just part of the natural order. it's like cat and mouse. your job is to stop us. our job is to do it. i like your hair cut, man. >> thank you. >> looks fabulasti.
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>> thank you. >> coming up -- >> how much did it take to break that window? >> about four hits. >> a criminal act inside jail. and another troublemaker performs an unauthorized plumbing job. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. ♪ those who have served our nation have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life.
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it is one of the most common phrases we hear among both inmates and staff -- you have to give respect to get respect. but at the tulsa county jail, inmate dennerao says he's given up on that concept. >> i have been in this county almost two years now. they just -- when you be respectful and things like that take advantage of you. >> chairs had recently pled guilty to shooting with intent to kill. he was awaiting transfer to prison to begin a 12-year sentence.
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we first encountered him as he was being transferred to a new housing unit. >> we happened to be following a mental health staff member one day as she was visiting the segregation unit. as we were heading toward medical, we saw inmate chairs being brought down. from that moment, things kept spiraling. >> he began to threaten that he was going to, you know, do whatever he could to manipulate his housing, to get put back to where he wanted to be. >> causing havoc down here. they might as well put me back in my cell. >> he's a manipulator. what he does is what we call supervisor shopping. if he doesn't get what he wants on one shift with a certain supervisor, he will wait until a shift change and start the same thing but he'll put a little spin on it. maybe approach it a little different way to get that shift supervisor that's on to move him to where he wants to go. >> problems down here. >> no, we're not. no, we're not, mr. chairs. >> got in a fight. now he is administratively
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confined to segregation until he leaves the jail and he's very angry about that. >> according to staff, chairs had recently come from a segregation unit where even though he was confined to his cell 23 hours a day he had friends who looked out for him. >> guys over there that feed him basically. he wants to eat good, commissary, talk all night, have fun. not make his time hard. >> broke in here. >> i'm going to find a new cell for you. >> why? >> because you are telling me you are going to break stuff. >> yeah! >> all right. then i'm going to find a new cell for you. quit! >> he just broke it. he broke the metal part on the sink. >> i'm kind of filming him on a medium shot and next thing i know, he's got the bottom of the sink off. it kind of threw me for a loop. because it just -- it happened.
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it happened in a matter of less than ten seconds he had the sink apart. >> i want to go back to seg. >> they will find a place, but you have to give us a little bit of time. >> man, there's a place. >> we have to practice our patience. >> back to seg. i can't cope with this no more. >> yes, we can. we will figure this out but you are going to move cells in just a minute. >> what cell am i going to? >> 14. >> i don't want to be in none of these cells here. >> the things you are doing right now are causing you to move cells. you know that. >> really, chairs? >> chair's actions would get him moved but not where he wanted to go. >> come on. we'll cuff up. all right. >> they putting me back in my cell.
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>> you don't want to be in medical, you can't handle medical, you trashing our medical cells, i'll take you down to the holding cell. until i can find a safe cell. >> mr. chairs broke the sink and had some metal parts he was probably going to hurt himself or hurt something with. so they decided to place him in what we call a suicide cell. that's different from suicide watch. it's just a cell where there's nothing to harm himself or harm others or break apart or do anything like that. we typically have to do that with those that become a behavior issue and tend to act out a lot. >> got nothing, man. what's going on? >> i don't know, man. >> what is this? what is this? >> he tried to hide a piece of the sink. >> what is this? this is impossible. >> something like that could be used as a weapon. this kind of shows what the staff has to go through on a
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daily basis. these guys are pretty good. if they want to cause harm, they have a lot of time to figure out ways to do it. that, for me, was just a reminder of just how easy somebody could be hurt. >> this is ludicrous. >> what were you doing with that pipe? >> you know you could do a lot of things with it, but i wasn't doing nothing with it. >> really? you just wanted a memento? >> yeah, just wanted a souvenir. >> he had this demeanor. he wasn't angry. i don't think we ever saw him angry. at points where i thought he was going to get really upset he would just kind of smile. it was almost like he knew what he was doing. >> what pod are you going to? two? hell no! why can't i go back to 11? ha, ha! [ bleep ] >> with limited housing options, chair's provided a dilemma. he could not be in general population due to his behavior and when more pressing needs came up for the stripped-down cell he was currently in, the
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only option left was to move him back to his original segregation cell, the one place he wanted to be. >> they put me back in my same cell. >> wow. so the squeaky wheel really does get the oil. do you know that expression? >> yeah. >> is that what your whole intent was? >> yeah. if i would have been okay, i would have been in medical and sitting in that same cell, waiting. >> chairs would not be a problem for staff much longer. two days later, he was transferred to state prison to serve his sentence. >> coming up -- >> they hate me because of my tattoos because these poke ass police, straight up, knocking, knocking, knocking. >> an intoxicated satanist later shows his sensitive side. >> i want a life like everybody else. will only give you 37-thousand to replace it. "depreciation" they claim.
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during most of the four months we spent at the tulsa county jail, kenneth witty was housed in disciplinary segregation unit due to his many conduct reports.
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>> hostage situation. taking of the cell. >> one morning, we arrived at the jail to discover witty had been more trouble than usual. he used a food tray to smash his cell window after officer hunt told him he had to wait to take a shower. >> inmate witty says when can i go in to my shower? i talk to him like, well, i'm not quite sure if you've had your shower yet and i can't go by your word. let me talk to my partner and i'll get back to you. he just went on break. he'll be back in 30 minutes. >> he told me it will be another 30 minutes. i have to verify that you haven't had a shower. i was standing here with dry hair, with a dry towel, telling you i need a shower. >> i can't go by your word. i'm not going to have you take two showers when everybody else in the facility has had one shower. >> i blew up. i didn't even see it coming. i walked back to the end of my rack, grabbed my tray off the
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floor, picked it up and just boom. >> how much did it take to break that window? >> about four hits. >> i'm kind of chunky and have little arms. like a yosemite sam figure without the mustache. don't underestimate the strength. there's a lot of strength in the little guy. >> witty was charged with a felony for destruction of county property. he was later found guilty and given a one-year sentence that would run concurrently with his ten-year sentence in prison. but a new cell didn't correct witty's behavior. >> have a seat here. >> a few days later, witty was given a 15-day suspension of his phone and commissary privileges after a search of his cell turned up contraband. >> we found eight rolls of toilet paper, 18 books. multiple crushed pills, dried out orange peels and banana peels. >> what do yo do with the banana peels? >> it's my religion.
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i crumble it up as herbs on my food. the unofficial line is you have to have something to smoke in here. and it works. >> i have been in a lot of jails and prisons and believe it or not i have heard of people smoking banana peels before. i think i have also heard of orange peels. i think people will try to smoke anything if they think they will get a buzz or high off of it. >> witty kept both our field team and jail staff on their toes during our shoot. but then he showed another side. >> when we're filming with inmates we also do what we call a sit-down interview. that's where we really learn who this person is. when it came to kenneth witty, because he always had to act the clown, i was dreading the sit-down interview. i thought, you know, he's going to give me a hard time throughout this whole thing. i'm never going to get a serious answer. we were setting up and he was still playing the clown and joking around with everybody as we got everything prepared but
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when we both finally sat down and it was one-on-one, i was stunned. he became this very calm, somber, self-reflective person who was very honest. >> roughly i have spent over half of my adult life locked up. i was running the streets. i learned how to pickpocket and steal from stores. i didn't have time to sit here, i want to be a doctor when i grow up, or anything. i want to be an astronaut. i never was able to think of nothing like that. >> witty said in his early teens he joined one of tulsa's street gangs. >> when i was about 12 1/2, almost 13, i learned how to sell drugs. i learned how to seriously provide for myself. i had cars, girls, guns, clothes. i have done a lot of things i'm not proud of. i have been stabbed. i've been shot. frankly, i'm tired of it. where has it gotten me? nowhere. they label me as a problem inmate.
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it is hard. but, what can i do about it besides try to change my behavior? >> we are thinking about letting him out, but that will be dependent on my interview with him. we'll start with that. >> during the course of our shoot, sergeant collette, who runs the segregation unit felt it was time to give witty a chance to prove himself and allow him back in to general population where he would have more privileges and opportunities to interact with other inmates throughout the day. >> your behavior has not exactly been stellar. okay? let's not beat around the bush on it, all right? we are willing to give you a 72-hour trial in a pod if you want to go to a pod. >> i'd love to go back to the pod. i mean -- >> 72 hours, trial basis. remember my rule of engagement? >> if i got 72 hours, if
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anything happens in 72 hours, i come right back. >> uh-huh. how many shots of redemption do you got with me? >> probably just that one. >> that's right. you chill out. put a mouth filter on. you know you need one. >> i do. >> as many issues he's had, he's never assaulted a staff member. that's the big thing i look for. if he assaults a staff member, then he's one of our true bad people that need to be in seg. trial basis, he knows that if he goes, this is it. the last hurrah. he loses, he loses everything. he comes back in here. he gets absolutely nothing. he gets a roll of toilet paper, a blanket, a mat and his toothpaste and toothbrush. that's it. why are we doing this? this gives him something to reach for as a goal.
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that if i can stay out 72, okay, well, i stayed out of seg 72, maybe i can go longer. and it becomes a game to them and they get preoccupied with it. all of a sudden we changed our direction mentally with these inmates from looking for what i can do to get in to trouble to hey, i made it this far and i'm out of seg, let's see how far i can go without going back in. he's well aware of the fact when he comes back in he will lose everything. >> you said when, not if. >> yes, i did say when. when he comes back. i give him a month. hope he proves me wrong. but i give him about 30 days. and it's going to be all over with. >> coming up. >> what's on your face? >> 666, i got a pentagram, i got an upside down cross, demon pride on my neck. got them all over me. >> the challenge of being a satanist in the heart of the bible belt. and -- >> witty's going the other way. i would say he's a little nervous. he's like i'm getting the hell out of here. >> kenneth witty's saga in
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i'm melissa rayburger. presidential hopefuls are out in full force this fourth of july weekend. they have public events in new hampshire tomorrow. internationally, all eyes on greece's referendum to determine whether they keep the euro currency. john kerry met with the iranian counterpart in vienna. now back to "lockup." tulsa, oklahoma, is not only located in the bible belt it's actually been called the buckle of the bible belt. during our extended stay shoot
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at the tulsa county jail, one newly arrested inmate caught our attention because he appeared to be anything but religiously conservative. >> we were filming in the booking area of the jail and i saw a guy with 666 written across his head in tattoos all over his face and he looked like he might be an interesting candidate for "lockup." >> [ bleep ] i'm not nothing, dude. i'm not. >> he was being pretty loud and definitely causing a commotion back there. i wasn't sure what was going on. >> roger wood had just been arrested on a charge of public intoxication. >> i didn't been drinking. you're judging me, dude. because of what i look like. >> tracey came over to me and said, there's a very interesting looking guy who's being booked in right now. i kind of noticed he latched on to bryan. he was looking for somebody to hear his story. first he started focusing on bryan, bro this, bro that. >> they are trying to pick on me, bro, because they hate me because of my tattoos, this poke ass police. they want to try [ bleep ]
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they ain't nothing without their home boys, bro. straight up. knock it, knock it, knock it. >> he was acting out. he was swearing and being belligerent at the arresting officers. >> you arrested me for no reason, bro. you arrested me for no reason, bro. >> but it was his look that got us. >> i'm a satanist. >> i mean we're in tulsa, oklahoma. we're at the heart of the bible belt. and here's a man who had all these tattoos that were a tribute to satan all over his face, his neck. and he was just acting in this very bizarre way. >> i wish somebody has to have an answer why am i so fascinated about bigger, better things, who cares what they think, they will never understand me. i guess, i don't know. malice makes me this way. malice. m-a-l-i-c-e, malice makes me this way. >> this was not wood's first arrest.
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now 31 years old he had numerous stays in both jail and prison since age 18, on convictions ranging from assault to burglary. >> handcuffs off. >> stop. >> are you drinking today? >> no. i just ain't brushed my teeth in a week, bro. >> all right. i need you to walk through the metal detector and have a seat on the front. >> can you get me a sack lunch? >> we'll get you one in a second. walk through there. through the metal detector and have a seat in the front row. >> after being searched, it was time for wood to have his booking photo taken. >> we're going to take your picture. >> and then when i saw him having his intake photo taken and he rolled his eyes back in his head, i thought we have something here, at least visually. you know, the story was yet to be told. but i felt visually, we're good. >> but wood's time in booking was not yet complete.
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as he awaited a cell assignment he grew agitated and threw a chair at another man in the waiting area. >> [ bleep ] >> officers subdued wood and took him to a holding cell commonly known as the drunk tank to sober up in isolation. when we visited with wood the next day, we confirmed it was okay to have filmed him and he agreed to talk with us about what brought him to this point. >> tell me this, what's your future? >> i want a life like everybody else. i want to be able to own a nice car, a real nice house, you know, instead of living in the projects. >> i was pleasantly surprised by the sober roger. he was so outlandish the night before when he was intoxicated that when he sat down to have the interview, he was very calm. >> i'm a satanist.
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all of basically, you know, they're against everything about the christianity bible. i don't believe god's real. >> how did that come about? how did you find that belief system? >> well, i got tired of my dad and everything. me and my dad don't have the best relationship in the whole wide world. and he likes to preach. so i mean -- he's a southern baptist. so i turned in to a satanist. i didn't tell my mom and dad about it. or nothing. i just went ahead. they found out one day, especially when i got the tattoos and they are mad. i can't come home because of the tattoos. they are pissed. >> what's on your face? >> 666. i got a pentagram, i got an upside down cross, demon pride on my neck. you know. got them all over me. i got 38 of them. >> you live in tulsa, oklahoma. in the heart of the bible belt. >> mm-hmm. >> and you walk around like this. >> oh, yeah. i like it. >> why? >> because it's different from everybody. it helps me to be myself. yeah, it's lonely.
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hard to be able to talk to people. you are like man, i just want to talk to somebody today and you don't ever get to talk to anybody because nobody wants to hang around you because what you look like. yeah, i mean -- i will die for these tattoos if i have to. they are my religion. i got to be respectful to my religion. if anyone has problems for it i got to stand the for it. and even if it takes my life. i mean i'm going to do it. >> more than anything, he was kind of a sad guy. i mean he had gone to such great lengths to have this scary looking exterior. when i sat down to talk to him about what he saw for his future, he wanted a house and a car and he wanted these kind of typical things, but i said well don't you ever want to get married. children, marriage, anything? and his response was very sad to me. >> no. >> no. >> i'm not going to get married. >> why? >> because i'm afraid of my
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feelings getting hurt. yeah. she dumps me then i'm like, oh, man. >> so you are this hard-core guy who's a satanist but you don't want to get married because you are afraid of getting hurt. >> yep. >> you can't find nice satanist girl. >> i have been looking all over the place and haven't found one. i been looking everywhere. >> maybe tulsa, oklahoma, isn't the place. >> i'm beginning to think that. i want to get out of here. i want to get out of tulsa. when i get out this time i'm getting out of here. i hate this place. >> wood did get out a couple of days later. after he pled guilty and was sentenced to time served. >> i love you too, bro. are you going back to prison? no. you are. [ bleep ] all right. bro. i'll keep in contact with you, bro. >> go sign your bond, go to this blue door and turn your stuff in. take care of yourself and don't
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come back. >> all right, y'all. >> coming up, kenneth witty winds up back in segregation, but for a reason nobody saw coming. >> tell me, tell me. what's going on? they make little hearts happy and big hearts happy too because as part of a heart healthy diet, those delicious oats in cheerios can help lower cholesterol. cheerios... how can something so little... help you do something so big.
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at the tulsa county jail, kenneth witty is regarded by the staff as one of the jail's better-known troublemakers and we got a small taste of that ourselves. >> kenneth was always messing with me in one way or another, whether it be i was doing a walking shot and he would start off at a nice pace and i would be backing up, but then he would slowly start to increase his speed and i would try to stay with him. >> you have to learn to back a up faster, bryan, for real. come on then. start running. >> he would laugh. it didn't really bother me because it's just part of his shtick.
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and i just went with it. >> the camera right here and we're playing hand ball. if your camera is broke, i want you all to sign waivers because we cannot be held liable because i know that's an expensive [ bleep ] of work. >> he would go out of his way to prevent us from doing what we needed to do. so he could be very exhausting for me. >> susan going to be mad about that. >> i did find myself on a number of occasions chastising him and trying to keep him in line. he was like a little wild puppy. i literally had to come on like this mom figure sometimes to say stop, you need to stop. >> uh-oh, mother heard that one. >> it is about respect. >> i'm not disrespecting nobody. he wanted some candid shots. so i'm showing him my fingers. that's [ bleep ] oh. >> since the day he arrived witty had proven to be a handful for detention officers. >> model citizen. >> straight up. model inmate.
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i'm a model -- i'm not even a model inmate. i'm a model criminal. >> during the course of our shoot in tulsa, witty was given a chance to be, if not a model inmate, at least one that could live outside of the confines of disciplinary segregation. >> when sergeant collette ended up letting witty out of segregation back to general population -- >> 72 hours, trial basis. remember my rule of engagement? >> if anything happens in 72 hours i come right back. >> uh-huh. >> he said 72 hours. if you keep your nose clean then we'll see what happens. but if you don't you're back in here for the rest of your stay. so, we visited with witty 72 hours later and he was very proud of himself. i made it through the 72 hours. everything's good. >> how are things going for you in general population? >> it's good. i'm done with my 72-hour trial period. so i'm going to raise some hell today. >> we all kind of looked at each other. wait, wait, wait.
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i don't think that's what sergeant collette meant. >> they said i had 72 hours as long as i made it 72 hours in general population i got to stay. if i got in trouble i had to go back. i wasn't getting out. i made it my 72 hours so i can raise hell now. >> if you get in trouble you're going back to seg forever. >> not necessarily. that wasn't the deal. that's not the deal. >> i found that to be comical in complete witty fashion that he would look at that to be word for word 72 hours and figured that once that 72 hours is over, everything's back on. >> i wasn't. i wasn't. you guys heard wrong. >> witty held his disruptive side in check. but when sergeant collette came to the unit later that evening he found witty's actions to be a bit suspicious. >> hmm. interesting. >> what? >> witty's going the other way. and up the stairwell.
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>> he looks nervous. >> i would say he is a little more than nervous. he's like i'm getting the hell out of here. >> how are you doing in here? >> i love it. >> behaving or not getting caught? >> little bit of both. >> at least you are honest. that's what i want. >> at least i'm honest. >> we told you be honest about it. don't be a fool about it. i think you are aware of the fact by now you won't win in here. you can't win. if you did it wouldn't be jail. >> for several days witty stayed out of trouble but then he did something that surprised everyone. >> i got a call from midnight shift sergeant. he explained to me that mr. witty wanted to go back to seg out of fear of either having to get in to a fight with somebody or having to fight one of our detention officers or getting in to some physical altercation he didn't want to
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get in to. >> when we found out that kenneth witty had put himself back in to segregation i think we were all a little surprised. i wanted to talk to him as soon as possible to see what motivated the change. what happened? >> i went busy yesterday and i come back, and i'm missing like $50 worth of commissary. and basically i could just feel myself at that boiling point. instead of fighting a bunch of [ bleep ] i chose to put myself back in segregation. >> obviously he learned that getting in a fight in here is not going to get you anything but more trouble than what you bargained for. >> witty was placed on cool down status. meaning he could return to general population when he felt his anger was under control. >> hey guy. >> i put myself in here this time. >> yeah, tell me, tell me. what's going on? >> i felt myself coming to a breaking point and i said, look, man, i'm ready to go back to seg
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rather than catch a write up. >> okay. >> captain told me to make sure there was a memo in my file that this was time-out basically. >> right. >> a cooling off period. >> yeah. it was a self-initiated segregation on your part. which i applaud that. i'm impressed with your self-control and your check. the old kenneth would have been on like no tomorrow. now you are thinking what about you are doing. when you think you're ready, then you let me know. okay? we'll put you back out, when you think you're ready. >> all right. appreciate it, sergeant collette. >> i'll let you out, man. >> all right. >> wow, that's impressive. had that been the old mr. witty he'd have just started swinging and consequences be damned, he'd
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have just did whatever he wanted to do. he's come a long way since he has been here. now if he can continue, well, maybe we're well on our way to the road to rehabilitation. >> i'm happy to be in segregation with the knowledge like sergeant colette said, when i'm calm, and i'm ready, i can go back. >> i'm not going to save the world but if i can get one or two of these guys that are in here to really stop and think about what they're doing before they do it, i've done something. >> kenneth, is it possible i'm actually seeing you grow up? >> i think so. coming up -- >> a number of emotions that go with this right here. hunger, arousal, love, lust. amazing. >> kenneth witty displays his passion for food and for his new fiancee. >> mi amor. my one and only baby girl. from this day forward i vow to make you my world.
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inside the tulsa county jail, kenneth witty seemed to be adjusting well to general population, staying incident free for several days. but when he felt an angry outburst coming on, he requested a return to a segregation cell. officers praised witty's restraint, and told him that when he felt ready, he could return to general population. witty, however, seemed content on his own, as long as he had funds for the jail commissary's sugary snacks. >> it was pretty apparent early on with witty that he had a certain passion for food. i noticed throughout the four months that we were there, his weight gain. but he had a great attitude about it. >> it takes a lot of [ bleep ] work to be this [ bleep ] sexy. straight up. >> there was one item in particular that witty told us he could not resist. >> in all of the different jails and prisons we always see honey buns on the commissary list. and they're definitely a coveted item. witty really loves his more than
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other people did. >> get on the food network. i want my own cooking show. "jailhouse cooking." make kind of like a second frosting for the honey bun. once the oatmeal is fully cooked, i'll go ahead and throw in the peanut butter. crumble up a snickers bar and bam! take the mrs. freshly's clover hill bakery honey bun. spread it over evenly. we're going to take the honey bun and we're going to place snickers all throughout it. evenly put it throughout the oatmeal peanut butter frosting and bam. there's a number of emotions that go with this right here. hunger, arousal, love, lust. it's amazing. i can feel the clouds beneath me right now.
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and my cholesterol building. i got to do the jailhouse shuffle for the camera. ♪ hey, look. when i first came to jail, you could read my tattoos on my stomach straight across. now it's like a banner. >> we would soon learn that witty's decision to return to segregation, rather than lash out at the inmate he had problems with, didn't have anything to do with losing commissary privileges. but it had everything to do with not wanting to lose visitation privileges. >> the motivating factor for kenneth to move back into segregation and stay out of trouble was he had found love. >> i just got engaged four days ago. >> what? >> yeah. >> to whom? >> this girl amanda. she's coming to see me on saturday.
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>> who are you here to see today? >> kenneth witty. kenneth and i actually have known each other 2 1/2, 3 weeks at the most. i was talking to one of my female friends and he talked to me one time. after that it was just like love at first sight but love over the phone more than anything. >> can i get 1015 kenneth witty for a noncontact visit, please. >> i know it is fast and seems crazy. he called me, said i want to ask you something. i go, okay. he goes, would you spend the rest of your life with me? and my exact words were [ bleep ] yes. i miss you, baby so much. >> mi amor. mi amor. my one and only baby girl from this day forward i vow to make you my world. never again will you fight your battles alone. i will take your demons and face them as my own. i will make you happy as i can for the rest of my life. i will buy you a ring and make you my wife. i'll never do anything to hurt you, i'll never make you cry. i'm a true soldier and i'm in this till i die. but in this moment with tears in my eyes i have only one thing to ask.
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will you stand by me as i stand by you for all the days of your life. will you make me the happiest man alive and say you'll be my wife. >> yes, i'll be your wife. >> i love you, amanda. >> i love you. you smeared my makeup. >> that's okay, baby. you still look pretty. >> i love you, baby, so much. you are mine till the day you die. >> till the gravedigger. he better big two. >> that's right. he can just dig one, throw us together. >> you're going to be on top of me or am i going to be on top of you? >> either way it works for me. i like both. >> i love you. >> it's hard to do time. i've seen people who just lay down and take whatever the
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system gives them. i use comedy, you know, to keep that from happening to me. >> could i just get naked for the cameras? >> pull your shirt over, boy, you know that. >> i understand i'm in jail, i understand i'm going to prison. but i might as well have some fun while i'm doing it. doesn't mean it's a game and i want to keep coming back. a lot of people would assume that because of my attitude, no. >> i got assaulted. i got sexually assaulted by a new sound byte. you see that? he totally touched my penis. >> kenneth witty to this day is one of my favorites. and i know he was a challenge. but you know, you spend a lot of hours in jails and prisons, and there's a lot of dark -- dark stories and dark information coming at you all day long. and to kind of lighten it up and to deal with someone like witty who liked to laugh, liked to smile, liked to give everybody kind of a little hard time, i enjoyed our time that we were able to spend with him. >> make sure this [ bleep ] doesn't go on there. get the [ bleep ] camera out of here
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