it came out he was an unapologetic racist. last week senator rand paul met with bundy at a campaign event in nevada for supporters interested in land rights. he said quote in general i think we're in tune with each other. the ed show is next. good evening americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm ari melber in for ed schultz, let's get to work. tonight, hillary feels the burn. >> in case you didn't notice this is a big turnout. >> you are not worried about bernie sanders right now. >> of course we are. this is an election. >> they should be wary of it. we are doing very very well. >> and comedian admits obtaining sedatives to use on women he wanted to have sex with. >> i think this is just the beginning. >> and court labor. >> it is important to look at

the linkage between wages and union representation. >> workers standing up and fighting for their rights and joining unions that is the way -- [ applause ] >> it is official. hillary clinton's campaign is sweating bernie sanders' booming crowds and enlarging poll numbers. last night in portland maine with 7500 supporters. friday over 2500 in counsel bluffs iowa. these crowds are starting to translate as well into real poll numbers for sanders. clinton's lead there down to 19 points in iowa. it was 45 points in may and 56 in february. overall sanders has made up essentially 37 points on clinton since february. now there is little doubt even among clinton campaign strategists that sanders poses a real threat in iowa. >> we're worried about him,

sure. he's a force. he'll be a serious force for the campaign and we think that will probable -- i don't think that will diminish. this is a campaign election and he is doing well. and we still have to make our case but we knew that was going to happen. in the iowa caucus no one other than incumbent or tom harken has ever gotten more than 50% of the o vote. it is going to be a slog but i feel like she will win and prevail. >> did that sound like expectations management for coming under 50 points? well bernie hay may be hearing it too and he said the clinton campaign is right to be worried of his momentum. >> they should be wary of it. we are doing very very well. we've had meetings all over the state of iowa. the turnout has been great. we're now focuses on how you win the rather complicated caucus

process in iowa. we're getting support from trade unionists, support from students, support all across the spectrum. and i'm feeling very good. >> hillary clinton was out campaigning today to work to hold on to what she thinks is her lead. spoke to a group of voters at iowa city public library. and clinton was asked about bernie's recent progress in the state. >> senator bernie sanders had been doing big events and wondering how you are feeling about the growing momentum he's seeing here and what you are going to be doing in iowa about that. >> well i'm doing exactly what i want to do in iowa. we've been in the campaign a little less than three months. it will be three months on sunday. and i am having the opportunity to meet and listen to iowaens across the state and find out what is on their minds, find out what they are worried about, what they are hoping for. and that is i think the strongest base on which to build

a good campaign heading towards the caucuses. i also think, look you know, this is going to be competitive. it should be competitive. it is only the presidency of the united states we're talking about. so, you know, the more the better. >> it may also be competitive for sanders and clinton together in new hampshire. a recent cnn poll has clinton up by only 8 point there is in the gran it state. and all recent polls suggest voters are shying away from any kind of coronation for hillary clinton. what does that mean? well politics is always a game of choices. this could be an opportunity for some other candidates to jump into this race. a recent "wall street journal" report made a lot of waves when it said essentially it is no secret the late beau biden was urging his father to run. and with an opening in the numbers politically that may pave the way for a lot of different democrats, including joe biden to think about getting in this race. get your cell phones out. we always want to know what you

think. tonight's question: does the bernie sanders surge provide an opening for someone like joe biden to run for president? go to pulse.msnbc.com/ed to place your votes. and right to it. dick har poolian knows a lot of these players. and thanks for joining me tonight gentlemen. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> dick you have talked to a lot of those feexolks. as a basic political level is it your view or do you know that folks like joe biden and his aids and other democrats are looking at bernie and thinking hillary clinton is more vulnerable than we thought and should be challenged? >> well i have no inside information from the biden camp. as we all know the vice president is taking some time to think about his family and other issues rather than politics. however there is no question

from some of the folks i've talked to in d.c. and in south carolina that, you know hillary clinton in 2008 was allegedly inevitable. that was the sort of the story this year. and most of the folks are saying you can only be inevitable once. and they are beginning to look -- they are beginning to look at other candidates including the vice president. because they are looking for some sort of competitive race at the minimum. or at the maximum, somebody like me i believe joe biden would be a better candidate and a better president than hillary clinton and i would live for him to get into the race. >> i don't want to insert myself in a comparison with either of you. but i am a younger pup. i do not have the experience in politics either of you have. but i am old enough to remember the last time hillary clinton was inevitable. and i think a lot of democrats are as well. so e.j. is there any feeling here that the more they talk about her being anointed the more there is a palpable look

for other alternatives? >> i think it is terrible for a candidate to be talked about as anointed, probably particularly in the democratic party because there is an automatic reaction against. that and people, voters do not want to say their candidate has been picked for them before they cast ballots. and in terms of joe biden getting in i am still, i think he'd love to run. i am inclined to think he won't. and i think to say the bernie surge suggests an opening. really suggests that the votes for bernie are primarily negative against hillary clinton. whereas i think this is a bernie sanders surge. i think that there are a lot of people in the progressive wing of the democratic party who want somebody saying what he's saying. i think beyond him there is a resonance to his saying that both the economic and political establishments have failed. a lot of people believe that. and he's got a lot of concrete -- >> let me push you on that. i don't mean to suggest that

bernie sanders who has a long record of public service here is just some place holder. but when you talk to party elites in washington, there is a feeling among democrat, the money class, the organizer class, everyone involved with the obama campaign at a senior level, what you hear from her whatever you thought about her she has earned it. it is her turn. that is the feeling at the elite level. and i guess what we're asking is whether at the grassroots level the excitement around bernie shows there isn't that same feeling of a chip to be cashed in. >> i agree with that totally. and i think a lot of people who say stuff like that are simply for hillary clinton. in other words it is not just because she's waited around 8 years. there were a lot of people who voted for obama the last time who also wanted to vote for clinton. that was a very positive campaign back in 2008. but i think that what a lot of

even clinton supporters are longing for is her creating more of a sense of enthusiasm. and you are seeing that with bernie sanders in those crowds. and i think what clinton is going to be trying to do over the next 4-6 weeks is giving a lot of concrete speeches laying out proposals the way sanders has been laying out proposals, particularly on the economy and particularly talking about inequality. she is going to try. she is going to sound a little bit like bernie in the next few weeks i think. >> and dick when you look at the new hampshire primary numbers here. the early polling is very early. it doesn't show you a lot. the tightening is very clear there. hillary clinton 43 sanders 35. we played this out. bash

can they make the argument in iowa and new hampshire and on to south carolina as you know it? at what point does the clinton expectations game get them into trouble? >> well i think the problem again is neftability that she is she's got it wrapped up and nobody else ought to get in. and bernie sanders i thought was stunning a moment ago to hear hillary clinton say she's traveling around iowa listening to folks. this is a listening tour. whereas bernie sanders is saying i don't have to listen to you. it's the same problems as elsewhere and it's about income inequality and folks like hillary clinton and other wealthy people who don't really -- can't really share your pain. and he is resonating. and i think this is more about -- and i would disagree with mr. dionne. i think this is about her. she is not resonating. he is.

i think if joe biden got into this race he would resonate just like bernie sanders only better. >> and that is the big question. and given your criticism orb viewpoints i just want to remind our audience, we've invited hillary clinton and her staff to be on msnbc. we forward to that. to get all the sides here as well. thanks for joining us here tonight. and on the same topics, we want to hear from you at pulse.msnbc.com/ed. we're going to have the results for you throughout the hour. coming up texas textbooks getting a rewrite. and many accusing the state's board of education of essentially white-washing some of the history. we'll have the details next. a pretty interesting story. later new revelations about bill cosby's alleged sexual misconduct. very excited to do this segment. we'll have reaction from next. it's so shiny. i know, mommy,

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♪ i'll take those odds. ♪ be unstoppable. the all-new 2015 ford edge. the recent battle over the confederate flag has stirred passions over our history, how we understand it, honor, and how we teach it. the news in texas today is 5 million public school students will get new textbooks this fall that carry a pretty slanted view of the civil war. they set new standards back in 2010 and casting the civil war in terms many simply wouldn't recognized saying the conflict was caused by quote, sectionalism states rights and

slavery. it is written in that order to cast slavery as the secondary issue at least to according to some. and the books don't even mention the can youku klux klan or crowe laws at all. saying they have swung too far to the right and diminishing importance of civil rights as well as the role of slavery of course in our history. others are defending this type of revisionism. a republican member saying quote there would be those who say the reason for the civil war was over slavery. no it was over state's rights. end quote. and texas tech student organization poly tech asked fellow students on campus who won the civil war? >> who won the civil war? >> umm. >> we did? the south. >> like the one in 1965 or? what civil war? >> who won it? who was even in it? >> a lot of answers to a tough

question there. joining me now kathy miller president of the texas freedom effort group. and a former board of education member. dawn how does this process work? is it working? >> well the process worked just fine. we have review committees that look at the text. they make recommendations. and then the board will look at the recommendations and make changes and make amendments. i realized we had a problem right at the very beginning. i had kind of a canary in the coal mine standard. and all it said was students are described religions role in the foundational republic that we had. and when we look at the -- when i got the new standards, the first work from these review committees, they had deleted that standard, the role of religion. and i was stunned. and i realized there was going

to be a battle on our hands and we did have a battle. >> kathy your thoughts? i mean it doesn't mean it is working because it is getting any old outcome. twuld seem you want to navigate between the good faith disagreements. whatever we teach is always going to have some manner of controversy but it has to be factual too. >> exactly right. the problem is politicians are making the decisions what gets taught instead of look at teachers and historians and colleges. dr. mcilroy is not a historian and his personal political belief should not dictate what our kids learn in school. the issue of the confederacy was a very important point. ignoring the fact that the right states were fighting for was the right to buy and sell human beings in slavery. >> don on the jim crowe front do you think that should be in the

history books. >> i don't have any problem with putting jim crowe, the kkk. one of the criticisms the board got was the fact we had too many standards and too many requirements in there. it's fine with me to teach. they still can be taught. i have no problem. we still need to teach all the real history. what's interesting about the causes of the silly warcivil war, we never really discuss that very much. our review committees the ones that kathy just talked about that we need to listen to, back in the 7th grade history course for texas history they did not put slavery listed first either. they had state's rights ahead of slavery. it was just a non issue. slavery was included. the biggest rig morale we ever got over slavery was in eighth grade economics early u.s. history. and it said the growth of the slave trade and role of slavery. had slavery mentioned in the standard. a motion was made in january of

2010 to change the growth of the slave trade to something like atlantic triangular trade. there was no comment. in march, two months later there was no comment. there was no objection. there was no newspaper stories. and then all of a sudden right before may adoption we adopted -- there was a big hoopla about us trying to say we were downplaying slavery. and what's so amazing is when the issue was brought up we put the word slave by back in there and changed it to something that the triangular slave trade. so we ended up with slave and slavery, both words in the same standard. i don't -- how in the world that could be construed as trying to downplay slavery is beyond me. we really never discussed it. >> so katherine, what is your response to that? basically saying seems like outside forces or potentially the media has made a bigger issue of this and they are not actually trying to downplay it. >> two things. first the outside sources were

historian, people with expertise who were able to review what's being proposed and brought forth their concerns. but more importantly this country is embroiled in a debate about how to talk about the confederacy and whether government and universities honor the confederate flag. we would not be having that debate if we haven't for generations taught incorrectly about the causes of the civil war. and today we should really look at what we teach our kids and ensure that it is not motivated by politics but it is motivated by truth. and that is the problem i have with politicians like mr. mcilroy and others who want to weigh in with their own political opinion on these matters instead of really relying on people with expertise and teachers in our classrooms. >> and mr. mcilroy why do you think it is important to at least some of the members -- because i read one of the statements earlier -- to say that the civil war was not primarily fought over slavery? why is that the issue here? >> mainly because some board

member said it not at the board meeting. if they did say it it had no impact. we had long debates on all our history standards. i myself personally think slavery has to be one of the most primary reasons for the civil war. i think our students are going to learn that, find out about it. and even the review teams she's talking about, the panels we authorize, the experts she's talking about. they also if you go to texas history, you will see in the causes of the civil war they listed state's rights ahead of slavery. >> all right. we wanted to talk to you both to get the perspective from the ground. this story has gotten a lot of attention with the debates. very interesting to see how the history and debates are still with us. thanks for your time. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> still ahead, newly released court documents shedding new light on bill cosby's alleged sexual misconduct. and how it could impact his future legal standing and whether he could face new

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celebrity chef paula deen's official twitter account posted a transformation tuesday photo and the picture is of her dressed as lucille ball from "iucylucy." and ler son dressed as rickiry car doe and he's in some quote unquote brown face. this picture is not purported to be new. it is from a 2011 halloween episode. and paula immediately hat the picture taken down as soon as she saw the post and as such she

has termited edterminated the relationship with the social media manager. in 2013 dean lost almost all of her former relationships after the former employee sued and claimed she hired black waiters to dress like quote, slaves for a plantation-themed wedding event. and then admitted to having use the "n" word on multiple occasions. corporate sponsors bailed and today's post got immediate backlash on social media. genuine outrage and withering mockery. mike hinson writing quote her pr team is literally just three sticks of butter in a trench coat. >> i am quite well ari but paula deen is not. neither is her brand.

>> she's taken it on the chin before. i guess we'll start with the fact that so the problem wasn't just the tweeting so somebody lost their job over the photo out. the problem was the photo exists because they used to dress up in brown face. >> right this was from an old episode and for halloween. i think, you know, what's offensive about paula deen and her history is the fact that even in the statement he she says to all those who were offended. not that this was offensive. she still hasn't come to the terms that racism is alive and well because of people like her. the black face and brown face and yellow face and all of history is just as offensive today as the confederate flag. and that is something paula deen needs to own. otherwise she should not have any limelight or even a twitter account at this point. >> walk me through how it is in modern times here just a few years ago 2011 someone thinks

that kind of black or brown face is a good call. what that are they thinking i guess? >> i think they are not. the issue is when you surround yourselves with a bunch of people who look like you and think like you and you have no diverse groups of friends. when you surround yourself with people who have had challenging experiences that are different from yours, you learn from those. and what is abundantly clear from her behavior now and then and then meaning 2013 and even 2011 for halloween costume wearing is she doesn't surround herself with anyone else who has alternate views. anyone who says i'm not just offended by this but this is offensive behavior that you should never engage in. and i think it is real challenging if she continues down this path. >> what does it tell you that a lot of these brands and others were willing to stick by her. it may have been some kind of open secret.

>> i think, you know, it goes to show also since this is an old picture from 2011 and there was no huge backlash then. i certainly don't remember hearing anything about the issue in 2011. i think it also tells you that when times change and when we're a little more sensitive, the reality of charleston just happening the other day has everything to do with the number of brands that are pulling back from donald trump. and we're starting to see that same type of outrage today because of what happened with paula deen. we're already sensitive to the fact she would do something like this. so it made that behavior that much more egregious today. and we need to stay sensitive to these and not just in times like this. >> that is a great point. people saw it, it aired back then. and this is four years later but on some ways four years is a long time. still to come the big revelation from bill cosby and what it means for potential new charges. stay tunld. .

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now we turn to that major breakthrough in the story of allegations against bill cosby.

in minutes we're going to hear directly from one of his accusers as well as a former prosecutor who may have insight into how the criminal charges could work against this famous actor. here the background. thanks to a lawsuit from the ap a court just released testimony from cosby that for the first time ever reveals him to admitting to obtaining sedatives with the intent to drugging women for sex. all have a civil suit of the a woman who accuses cosby of assaulting her. cosby's lawyers fought to keep it sealed for the last ten years saying the revelation would be embarrassing for the comedian. two networks announced they are pulling his shows this week. but the bigger question is whether this new admission would lead to further accountability for cosby in court. we should note nbc news has repeatedly reached out to cosby's representatives for

comment. he has no comment right now. and cosby has generally denied tease types of these types of charges. joining me now, good evening to both of you. >> good evening ari. >> lily what did you think when you first heard about this disclosure this week? and does any of it match any of your experience? >> well i first felt a sense of vindication. and all i can speak is from my perspective. and i hope other people are also able to see there are certain characteristics that are hallmarks to rapists who drug their victims in order to incapacitate us and detain us. and those are cowardice and depravity. and i have firsthand knowledge

of those characteristics of bill cosby which are such because i was drugged and raped by bill cosby. >> the specific admission that he makes back in 2005 now disclosed for the first time is that he obtained quaaludes with the intent to use them to have sex with women. in your case do you have any way of knowing that that was the drug that as you allege was used on you? >> i have no way of knowing because he drugged me without my knowledge. he must have slipped the drug in the apple cider that he gave to me and made he drink and within a very short while the room began spinning. and i was unable to move my body the way i was normally was able to. i was conscious, however my arms felt very heavy.

like lade. led. he screamed for me to shut up. and covered my mouth. and i was unable to push his hand away because the drugs. and when i continued to scream and he then pushed the pillow into my face suffocateing me to silence my scream i was yet unable to push the pillow away from my face. and it was terrifying. it was bondage via drugs. >> i know this is difficult to talk about. i so appreciate you walking us through it. when you look at this situation, a lot of folks, as you well know better than many took bill cosby's side defending him. attacked some of the women who have made these allegations. looking at this now, do you feel this is a turning point? do you have anything to say to those people? >> yeah absolutely. i would like to say to them that i empathize with them because i

too was deeply betrayed by bill cosby in that he mentored me for a long period before he drugged and raped me. he entrusted me to him. and it was a terrible sense of betrayal. so i understand how those people who also had relationships with him that have been positive feel a terrible sense of betrayal. and it takes a lot of courage, you know, for people like jill scott to be able to say that they were duped. i have nothing but empathy for those people. the same thing was true for me. >> and gloria looking at this legally, does anything that has now been revealed just this week change or add to cases that can be brought? >> well absolutely. and let me just say first that lili bernard, my client is a very very brave woman to have come forward and i just commend her for that. and also of course i do represent judy huff if her

lawsuit against bill cosby, wherein she alleges she was 15 years old when mr. cosby committed an act of sexual misconduct against her at the playboy mansion. he's been attempting to get the case thrown out of court is was unsuccessful at the trial level. filed a writ with the california court of appeals. and he was unsuccessful with them. they were western were to take his deposition in himy office june 26th but he filed a petition with the california supreme court. our case is now pending before the california supreme court. and it is a very important case. the only case in the nation in fact against mr. cosby. where it really goes to the heart of what did he do? what did he not do? it is not a defamation case and a case alleging sexual abuse so it is very serious. it is even more serious whens the a case of child sexual

abuse. so we're looking forward to what the california supreme court is going to decide on this case. we hope we can move forward. mr. cosby has been trying to hide the truth way too long. and we're very glad this new deposition was finally made public. >> i spoke to bruce castro who was the prosecutor that investigated the underlying claims in the newly released deposition. he's running for da and says there might be a perjury prosecution available based on the deposition which carries up to seven years potential prison in pennsylvania. do you see anything like that possible? do you think in your view as an expert involved in these cases that there is a route wherein bill cosby could be prosecuted and end up in jail? >> well i wouldn't want to make that accusation or reach that conclusion unless and until i could really see the full context of what mr. cosby said and why it would be considered not to be true. so i really don't know. i will say this.

i intend to use his statements in the deposition when i take my deposition of mr. cosby in the case of judy huff. and i'm looking forward to that day when i can do that and ask him more about allegations that he drugged the women. and that day i hope will come soon. because judy huff really wants her day in court. and her case is so important not only to her but other women as well. >> understood. appreciate you both making time on what we know to be such difficult story. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> bill cosby's list of allegations spans decades. the first in 1965 of a 22-year-old woman met cosby and told philadelphia magazine she passed out after drinking a cocktail at his house. she alleged when she came too cosby attempted to force her

into oral sex. and in 2008. alleging cosby drugged her before assaulting her. and we want the turn to john zach, a former federal prosecutor who can speak about the timing issues here. if you have a case like this where many of the underlying are old. putting aside statute of limitations which simply bar some of these. in certain states they may still be available. how do prosecutors reckon with alleged crimes that are so old. >> in this contestxt a very specific way. the rules of evidence have an expansion approach to introducing this type of prior misconduct in a sexual assault context. and they are allowed to admit this type of evidence in any new case for a wider variety of purposes than you otherwise would be for other types of misconduct. so this -- the types of older deeds can be very useful in bringing a new case assuming it

is a timely case. >> the local prosecutors have looked at these issues have generally said that because of the time, the delay and the lack of physical or forensic evidence, they didn't feel they met the standard to move forward. based on what you know, do you think that is correct or do you think he has somehow gotten some softer treatment. >> those types of decisions are made by prosecutors and you really have to fully appreciate the evidence if you are going to make that call. i don't know if i can make that call sitting here but what i can say if you have an admission like this on the record it is a piece of evidence very helpful to you in making that decision. if you were a prosecutor sitting there today and looking at what you know what your file had in there, this is something that you would focus on and you would think of a way in favor of bringing the charge. >> you were a federal prosecutor and worked on racketeering and conspiracy cases. how would you take that kind of admission in this instance? people are going okay now it seems like the cat is out of the

bag. he said it. he's admitted under oath. how would you use that in anyway in another case. >> that is kind of gold a prosecutor because it is admission by the defendant. it is admissible for any purpose in a trial. you know if you are given that piece of evidence that my case i'm going are have this with me. be able to show it to the jury. >> so just to slow that down john. when you say any purpose, what are the examples you're thinking. >> a statement from a defendant just comes in in a criminal trial, as long as it's relevant and because you have a deposition transcript it is there. it is in his own words you really can't attack it because it is a fixed thing. >> so we were waiting and we mentioned this in terms of journalism, waiting to hear more from his side. and we'll report it if they come out and speak. but let's imagine he goes to trial and says no i never obtained those kind of drug, i never drugged anyone. what do you do with that then? >> you can use to it impeach him or show he's not telling the truth. bring the transcript out and show it to the jury and say he

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unionized shop that's regardless of whether a specific worker has elected to join that union. that means nonunion members and union members basically share in the benefits of working in that unionized workplace. now if the court rules that nonunion members are not required to pay those fee, it could hinder public sector unions. in the past the court's conservative justices have questioned whether these fees violate some kind of free speech. it could require employees to support a union that they may personally oppose. the court is expected to hear the case when it returns from summer recess. for more we go to larry cohen, former president of the telecommunications workers of america. a big case that hasn't got much attention yet. what do you make of it and what would an adverse ruling do to unions? >> well first of all, the irony that a court that believes in state's rights doesn't believe in state's rights in taking up this case. so most states don't have collective bargains for the sector let alone what's called

representation fees as you mentioned. there's no bargaining rights in in texas, for most of the south, in the west for the public sector at all. far below the global standard. the states that do have rights some have representation fee, many don't. in this case the court is diving into those states that do and saying we think there's a first amendment issue here. that's how they get around the states rights frame that normally would keep them out of these cases. so again, what we have is a court that looks for any excuse to go after workers rights whether in the public sector or the private sector in this case the public sector. in terms of the unions -- so i come from the public sector in the cwa, that's how i started to help organize my group of 40,000 in new jersey 30 years ago. whether it's new jersey or whether it's other unions in other states we're doubling down on internal organizing which we should do anyway. so that people joining the union voluntarily and make this case

close to meaningless. >> i want to turn to the politics as well which is something that ed obviously is all over. no union, as you know, has officially endorsed a democratic presidential candidate right now. the head of the amalgamated transit yoon has been applauding bernie sanders. basically from your view as a former union president, do you think bernie sanders should actually get a serious look from these unions and i believe ed is going to be reporting more on this next week. so folks are going to want to stay tuned. but what do you think? >> yes, my term as cwa president after ten years ended three weeks ago. i immediately volunteered and endorsed bernie. i did that because it's clear-cut. he has 50 years supporting working families across this country particularly in vermont, his own state. as mayor of burlington, as a member of congress and as senator for the last nine years. >> can i push you a little bit,

though larry? >> yeah. >> it's different when you're out of it than when you're speaking for the union and whether the unions are willing to cross hillary clinton if they do expect she'll be the nominee. >> so what i saw in iowa i was with bernie in council bluffs on friday. we had a meeting at a union hall. it was packed with local union leaders, overpacked. they were outside just to see him and just to hear him. and then almost 3,000 people packed the biggest meeting room in council bluffs including these same trade unionists that night. yes, across iowa unionists are pouring out for bernie. elected officials in building trades public sector our union from across the state it's a prairie fire. >> what do you think beyond his style, what in his policy record is endearing that? >> well he stands for workers' rights. he supports collective bargaining. he links it to economic inequality. he talks the language of working people. he talks about kids getting to

go to college without a trillion dollars in debt. bernie's down for working class issues across the board. >> larry cohen, thank you for spending some time with us on this tonight. as i mentioned, ed will be covering this more in the coming days. that is "the ed show." "politics nation" starts now. tonight on "politics nation," the gop pushed to dump trump. party elites are running scared and trying to keep the donald out of debates. also the bernie effect. hillary clinton speaks out about her primary fight with senator sanders. and breaking news on a gop attempt to delay or even derail a vote on the confederate flag. we'll go live to south carolina. welcome to "politics nation." we begin