and i'll tell you something, if i getnomination i'll win the latino vote. hillary clinton is not going to be able to create jobs. neither is jeb bush. i'll the latinos will have jobs they don't have now. i'll win the vote. people say, gee, trump is not going to win that vote. i'll do that better than anybody. >> there you go. he's going to win the latino vote. good morning.

welcome to "morning joe." it's thursday july 9th. >> who is that? >> donald j. trump. with us on set, mike barnicle mark halpern, the great alex wagner wagner. >> what you are doing here? >> i fell asleep last night. >> are you awake yet? >> no. >> did you stay straight through? >> i don't leave. >> alex hosts "now" on cnbc. brian sullivan is here. we also have doran warren. and in washington anchor for bbc world news america, katty kay and senior contributor for "the week," matt lewis. i think i got everybody. >> six hour episode. >> 300 guests. >> we're digging in for the marathon. let's start with that very colorful shall we call, interview between republican presidential candidate donald trump and katie tur. he spent nearly an hour on the phone with trump following that

interview talking about a wide range of topics and a source briefed on the conversation says prevus urged him to tone it down. here he is doubling down on the comments he made at his announcement speech. >> i'm talking about the mexican government force ms. bad people into our country because they're smart. they're smarter than our leaders and their negotiators are better than what we have. like to a degree you wouldn't believe. they're forcing people into our country. this guy that killed wonderful young woman from san francisco, he went back to mexico. they forced him out. they force people into our country. and they are drug dealers and they are criminals of all kinds. we are taking mexico's problems. i have great relationship with the mexican people. i have many people working for me. can you look at the job in washington. i have many legal immigrants working with me. manufacture them come from mexico. they love me. i love them. and i'll tell you something, if i get the nomination, i'll win

the latino vote. hillary is weak on immigration. i may be divisive on immigration, but she's weak on immigration which is far worse. hillary would let everybody come in killers, criminals, drug dealers, everybody. if you listen to hillary, everybody is going to be flowing through the nation. i will make that wall inpenetratable. okay? inpenetratable. you don't have to worry about how high it will be. mexico will pay for that wall. >> now trump's mention of that hotel in d.c. was not by accident. it was in response to a question in a "washington post" article which cited hotel workers who told the paper they came to the united states illegally. the trump campaign issued a statement following that report that reads in part our contractors are required to have prospective employees produce documentation that establishes identity and employment eligibility in compliance with immigration law. mark halpern, let me start with you. ryan priebus, apparently trump

called him earlier. >> they have a long running relationship. >> they have a relationship. >> what is that phone call signal if anything to you? does it mean there is real concern inside the republican party? >> there's a lot more going on here than just donald trump talking about immigration. they're worried in the party donors activists, strategists, the chairman of the party are worried that trump's outsizability to get news coverage and to drive the debate will not just be a problem in this week on immigration but on many issues going forward. he is unlike anyone else who's ever run for president. the republican party cannot control him. it's up i think, to the candidates to decide if they want to take him on. take him on is a huge risk. but if no one takes him on he can dominate the news. >> what's the risk? >> the risk to take him on? he has millions of dollars. he can start running negative ads. in a 16-person field, if you take trump on, he can probably take down with him. you may take him down, but he'll

tep take help take you down. >> don't you think it's an opportunity though? >> i have a piece that just got published on bloombergpolitics.com that makes that point. bill clinton says in politics, when people are upset and concerned, it's better to be strong and wrong than weak and right. mr. trump is strong. but somebody takes him on it's an opportunity. george pataki is the only one that's done it so far. but other people they're only criticizing him on immigration. if you look he's given money to harry reid it's been for tax increases. there are a lot of ways can you go after him. but so far, no one's taken the opportunity. >> let's look at the other candidates reactsing to donald trump. >> donald, i saw your tweet the other day. i think you might need to borrow my glasses to get a good look at the steps i took to secure the border while i was governor of texas. i can't support what you said. but no one knows the concerns americans have about our pourous

border better than i do. >> my party is in a hole with hispanics. the first rule of politics when you're in the hole is stop digging. and then somebody needs to take the shovel out donald trump's hands. >> you can lot of mexican culture. you can love your mexican-american wife and also believe that we need to control the border. this is a bizarre kind of idea that somehow you can have an affection for people in a different country and not think the rule of law should apply. this is ludicrous. and frankly as a republican, i want to win elections. i want to win so the conservative principles can be applied again to allow people to rise up. and to win, we better start to figuring out ways to message our beliefs in a way that gives people hope that everybody will be included in the progress that comes with this. >> some republicans are taking action on trump's campaign

donations. dean helpler said he has given money he received from trum top charity. lindsey graham saying i'm going to keep the money and keep condemning him. matt lewis, how big a problem is this for all these gop candidates to have to take so much of their time and airspace responding to donald trum snpp? >> it's a problem and opportunity. takes problem that could be very damaging to the republican and the conservative brand. it's the tragedy of the commons problem. trump benefits individually at the expense collectively of the conservative brand. there are incentives for him to say horrible things for himself that help him. it's a moral hazard. i think it's an opportunity. look this is the nfl. if jeb bush or marco rubio or whom ever if they want to be the nominee, this f. they want to go against hillary or iran or whoever is going to be a tough negotiator, they need to also be able to go up against donald trump. if they can't do it. then maybe they don't deserve to

be the nominee. >> doran, what does it say, do you think, about republican politics at this early stage of this primary campaign that rick perry sounds like a candidate for the profiles of courage award and, two, what's your instinct on whether donald trump as mark just pointed out that he would actually spend his own money doing that? >> this is a structural problem within the republican party. rick perry is running for the general election. donald trump is running to win the primary nomination. he is talking to a core constituent sieve the republican party that agrees with hill on these issues. so this puts nipple ahim in a great position. it disadvantages him and the party once it turns to a general election no matter who wins the nomination. that is the first one. secondly in terms of his own money, we never know how much money trump really has, right? yes, he can spend a lot of his

own money. there is all the super pac money that will dwarf trump's independent money that he's willing to spend, especially as his money is being cut off, as he's losing contracts with nbc universal and comcast and many other of his business interests. so his money is not as long as we might imagine especially as he keeps saying these things that might benefit him politically but not in terms of his own businesses. >> the polls don't lie. he's in second place in some places. so what is his appeal? chris matthews had some interesting analysis last night on why trump's message resonates with a lot of voters. >> i think if you're sitting in american legion hall right now or in columbus hall there are a lot of cheering for that guy. they don't trust politicians to deal with the border. they don't think they'ring ine anything more than politicians. they take the money. they say the right politically correct things. and nobody has stopped the legal

immigration. he says i'm going to stop it. he says it in an ugly way. but he says it at least. nobody else is running and saying they're going to stop illegal immigration. you know i it this average guy looks up to that gold tower. they see his beautiful wife and the way he lives and the fact he'll say anything he wants and they imagine a billion dollars. he has maybe lots of billions of dollars. who cares about the margin of error? he has a lot of money. he says what he wants. they say that's what i want to be. he's a comic book hero. the average guy doesn't want to be jeb bush or ted cruz they want to be this guy. because this guy talks like he lives like sinatra. he has a lot of money. seems tone joy spending it and bragging about it. the average guy is making 50 a year saying i want to listen to this guy. >> something to that? >> i spent a lot of my summer in northern wisconsin. yeah, and it's salt of the earth up there. people come up to me all the time and they ask about this kind of stuff. what people like about trump is that he doesn't owe anybody anything. you can sat creditors and all the business stuff.

what i mean is most people i talk to in middle america say, hey, guess what? most collisions go around with hir hands constantly out. they're going to say whatever you want them to say to get your money. that's like mike bloomberg in new york. he has enough he can live comfortably the rest of his life. he's not beholden to any political interest. i think that's a big part of trump's attractiveness right now for a lot of people. >> alex how long does this last? is this a trump bubble? >> as long as he remains funded by the democratic party which clearly planted him in the republican race. i think trump has mass appeal based on you know what brian is talking about. >> he's the honey badger of politics. >> i'm surprised he can get a phone call n you think he would have made that phone call with urgency even three weeks ago. the man is beholden to no one. i'm not sure anyone can control the donald as long as he's up in the polls, he'll make it to the

debate stage in a few weeks. >> he can step into democratic race but step in with a lot of money and just shake everything up because he or she doesn't care what the others think? is there somebody that might do that? >> he doesn't care what the facts are. >> is there somebody that could jump in on the democratic side? >> there is a column that compared sanders to trump. trump is not spending a lot of money. he drives more earned media, free media than anybody else. while others are not really worried about trump, fox loves trump. they'll put him on and play the themes on immigration and other issues big. that drives a lot of this. if you're a republican who wants to cross trump, you're crossing fox now and the republican primary crossing fox is dangerous as crossing trump. >> speaking of fox that, debate is on august 6th. donald trump will be on that stage. >> certainly. >> must-see tv. >> katty kay, we have more important news to get to this morning. >> perhaps not as amusing as donald trump. invest investors were on edge when the

new york stock exchange came to a halt yesterday. it was quick to dismiss speculation though that this disruption was caused by hacking. saying it was an internal technical issue. the trading suspension came in the middle of a selloff in u.s. stocks that was spurred by a cratering in china's stock market. the dow jones industrial average fell by 261 points about, 1.5% for the day. although they're saying none of the cliches are related, united "wall street journal," people have to be worried about the dependence on technical systems that can go wrong like this. >> i think the point is well taken, katty. consumer and real estatetail invest jurors burned by the market. this adds yet another glimmer of dissatisfaction, right? you had the flash crash of 2010. the market fell a couple hundred points in a matter of seconds. somebody may have hit a wrong key. the nasdaq was shut down for

three hours two years ago because of a similar issue. and now this. yes, trading went on. trading continued because there are 11 other stock changes out. there fwhut is very bad for investor confidence. if you're mom and mom and sitting out there thinking i'd like to buy a couple shares of ibm and you see this happen maybe i should put my money in real estate. >> you were listening to the story. we used this word this morning, glitch. why don't you like that term? >> got a glitch -- yeah it rhymes with glitch. i had a debate on my show yesterday which glitch is a minor issue according to miriam webster, the dictionary. so strand tens of thousands of passengers for united airlines or shut down trading on still which i know market share of nyse has gone from 80 to 25%, but it's still 25% to eliminate that capital market for a couple hours, that's not a glitch. and to me a glitch is a word that a pr person would use to

make a big problem sound -- just a glitch. jasper, you shot my foot off. yeah, it was a glitch of the trigger but i have no foot. sorry about the glitch. right? so nobody died. there was food on the table. lights came on. but this is not a glitch. and this for united second time this happened in two months. what if you're going to a job interview? what if you missed a sales meeting? what if you were headed to a family reunion or graduation? they don't think it's a glitch. >> right. >> that's my glitch rant. >> how about super glitch? >> there you go. >> i think obama care was plagued by glitches. >> glitch doesn't work for 20 minutes. right? >> there is another word to watch. >> i wanted to watch "blue bloods," that's a glitch. >> i reference that. >> you see what i'm doing here willie? >> he ties in the new -- wow. >> i'm trying the four inch short pants with the corduroy -- >> i don't know where you're going. >> it's a "magnum pi reference." >> i just saw four inch corduroy

shorts. i didn't know. i will learn. i haven't had enough sleep. >> harmonized it all. >> because in the show thomas magnum's middle name is thomas sullivan magnum. that's my father's name. >> do you host the wikipedia page? >> no, but that is my favorite show of all time and my halloween costume last year. >> wait a minute. you dress up for halloween at your age? >> i have kids. >> oh. >> are awe loud to be with the kids in the short shorts with the mustache? because i'm just going to say -- f. i saw a man with kids with very, very short shorts and mustache. >> i have kids. >> that's a statement of fact. >> wow, you notice how i did that? it's way too early. >> not allowed on the playground. >> speaking of technology failing us personal data of millions and millions of federal workers dating back 20 years was stole whnn when hackers broke into the network. the fbi director described the

theft of background investigations as a huge deal. he added his own information had also been stolen in the intrusion. the breech was first reportach was first announced last month and carried out by chinese hackers. chinese officials denied any involvement. >> no bondwonder the stock market crashed. >> what about china, by the way? down 30% in a month, their market. what's going on over there? >> i'll give you a couple stats. the amount of equity value wiped out in the chinese stock market in 30 days is 15 times the entire annual economy of greece. it is 1 1/2 times the amount of total money lost in the internet burst of 15 years ago. what is happening in china is incredible. the market is still up big over the year. the problem is very simple. it's what we had here 15 years ago. people buying stocks on margin. in other words, it's a fancy way of saying i'm borrowing none bet on stocks in china.

>> what is the threat to our markets? our prosperity? >> china is the second biggest economy in the world. some argue it's the first. depends on what statistic you're looking at. but if their economy slows down or implodes a little bit because of this, then you can see manufacturing around the world -- we do export some but they're an increasing market for our goods. land rover, indian cop. the biggest range rover company in the world. that stuff. it's a global story more than a u.s. story but big story. >> we talked about this yesterday on this show. what driving this in china? >> i think what's interesting is what it says about the chinese government and system of finances. basically, the stock market bubble in china was driven by the chinese government. they encouraged small investors to jump into the market to spend their money, to buy shares. and that's what caused this massive surge. then you had the crash starting. the chinese government tried to

step in to stop it. they put controls in place. but they haven't managed to. the market keeps on falling. it is, despite china's best efforts, it seems to be a freeish market. i think it points to some of the weaknesses in the chinese government and the amount of power they have to contr chinese economy. you know brian is right. yeah, it's chinese investors who invested in the stock market. it's not foreigners. and there is no direct impact. but if the chinese economy starts slowing down and the chinese government is not able to keep it going, then that certainly has an impact on people around the world. >> we can't buy domestic shares in china. we can buy the h shares which are hong kong based stocks. we cannot bite domestic stock. the chinese government by the way, is making all the wrong moves. okay. there is a spending trading in a lot of stock. now they're saying you can't sell stock for a certain amount of time. when the government starts telling people what they can and can't do with their investments,

that's a bad thing. they're going to lose any confidence that they're playing in a fair market. >> a lot of middle class people invested in that stock market. big ripple effect. still ahead, breaking news overnight. as lawmakers vote to remove the confederate flag in south carolina. we'll hear one representative's moving speech to colleagues who are fighting to keep it. there. also ahead, casey hunt has a look at the unlikely friendship between george w. bush and clinton. they team up in dallas for a graduation of their presidential scholars. and later, joe's interview with chris mart enof "cold play" who has a big announcement for us this morning. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.

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south carolina voted to take down the confederate flag after ten hours of debate that stretched into the morning at 1:00, house agreed to remove the

flag from a memorial on capitol grounds in columbia south carolina. the debate centered on amendments of future displayst flag that opponents criticized as delay tactics. here is state representative jenny horn with an motional plea on the house floor last night. >> i attended the funeral of senator clemente pinckney and the people of charleston deserve immediate and swift removal of that flag from this grounds. we can say for another day where this flag needs to go. where the -- which flag needs to fly or where it needs to fly or what museum it needs to be in. but the immediate issue as far as i'm concerned is a member of the charleston delegation and speaking on behalf of the people in charleston this flag offends my friend mia mcleod my friend

john king my friend reverend neil neil. i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds on friday! and if any of vote to amend, you're ensuring this flag will fly beyond friday. and for the widow of senator pink pinckney and his two young daughters, that would be adding insult to injury! and i will not be a part of it! i'm sorry. i have heard enough about heritage.

i have heritage. i'm a life long south carolinian. i am a dissend ent jefferson davis, okay? but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horn! it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds! we need to follow the example of the senate. remove this flag and do it today! because this issue is not getting any better with age! thank you. [ applause ] >> that is republican state representative jenny horn talking about her lineage and descendant jefferson. a new day for south carolina. in congress, there's a last-minute shift from some republicans to allow confederate flag imagery on graves on federal land.

an 11th hour change would undue plans to prevent decorating graves with confederate flags and doing business with gift shops that sell confederate flags on it. a vote there is set for today. let's go back to last night though. an incredible speech that was for a lot of people decades if not centuries in the making. >> decades in the making and the context of south carolina. it's not that flag was put up in 1861 but 1961. so this is a decade's old effort. and as we were saying while watching her that's the trump card, right? i think mark said. that i'm a dissend ent of jefferson davis. you have strom thurman's son giving a passionate speech right after the murder of those nine people including their colleague in the state senate. so they speak for themselves when you have a jefferson davis

descendant and strom thurmond's son is taking down the flag. >> i found the swiftness of the reaction of this you know decision and this movement to take down the flag and the sense of emotional catharsis to be really interesting. 15 years ago there was a debate in the same legislature to keep the flag on the state grounds. >> there was no twitter. >> exactly. and now you feel like this sort of vehemence with which people are saying it must come down makes me wonder do you always think it should have come down? >> the shootings combined with social media brought that flag down. >> yeah. >> and fact that one of the tragic victims of the shooting was a colleague of theirs. >> yes. >> and the state legislature. >> on the up side it's great. we have shootings in this country all the time and something must change and nothing does. it's great to see change. to be that emotional about it

now, what were their feelings a month ago? they didn't have those. >> or in the year 2000 when there were plenty of people saying this is a painful symbol of our history, of slavery. there was compromise to keep it on the state grounds p it's really interesting. i guess it's a sign of the time or awakening or this sort of silver lining from a tragedy. >> an element of courage involved here too. to step up and give the speech when she gave it to take that flag down. >> and matt lewis, a month ago this would have been a nonstarter. one month ago this would have been a political nonstarter. now you have a 94-20 vote in the house there. >> yeah. absolutely. you know obviously, the horrific shooting was the spark that made this political reality possible. but then you need political leadership, p em whoeople who step

up and push it through. don't wait for the moment to pass and sort of let the tragedy go to waste. in this case though i don't they this is a political exploitation. i think this is actually a very courageous thing. i want to bring up again here you have a republican governor nicky haley, a republican senate and a republican house all coming together. we heard that empassioned speech. maybe -- i think the flag should have come down a long time agost but let's be optimistic. i think this is a very sign. going back to donald trump, as the republican party hopes to rebrand, you see really a tale two of republican parties here. really good news coming out of south carolina and then the stuff donald trump is doing, obviously, muddying those efforts. >> yeah. joe neil who is a long time representative, an african-american democrat in the house said there said i never thought i'd see this day and now that day is here in south carolina. coming up the must-read opinion pages and bill and hillary clinton are usually the

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changing. risks are huge forfrontal assault that goes beyond challenging trump on the immigration candidates. it may be seen as a party savior and pillar of strength definitely prepared to be an oval office occupant. why aren't more people taking him on? >> nobody wants to do it much his history is clear. if you take him on combs back at you hard. he's done it to people at this table. and if you're the one that takes him on you may take him down you may help the party brand do better, there is no doubt that trump will come after you. who wants to be the one to risk a suicide embrace with donald trump politically? >> isn't it because he represents some certain fired up portion of the conservative base? >> yes. >> it's not just donald trump. it's what he represents. and you fear you'll lose votes and support. >> that's why attacking him on immigration is a half way measure that doesn't work. trump's position on these issues

has a the love rezlot of rez nens. if someone has the courage to do that, give a speech and engage him and say this guy is not the right person to be the leader of this party even though he's high in the poll there would be benefits. it would take some courage. >> you know, he uses the word kornlg. it would take courage to bring him on f you're looking at it and one of 16 in this field, it might just be common sense. hey, here's a way for me to get in on the deal, to take him on. >> but this is the structure that alex points out. there is a huge base of the party and a primary context that supports precise lit position trump is taking. and so there is a risk that one has to consider hey, i might have the -- i might have courage and take him on. but i'm not going to win the nomination. and this is the jeb bush problem right now. he has to walk a very thin line between saying i disagree with this position on immigration. i can love my mexican wife and still be tough on border security.

he also has to appeal to the huge base that sports trum notary public that party. >> here's another take on it from dana millbank. donald trum sptp is the monster the gop created. he is no dope. his name recognition would take him far if he merely voiced in his bombastic style the positions gop voters craved. it worked. trump placed second in national polls by fox news and cnn guaranteeing him a place in the first debate august 6th. unless the gop persuades fox news, the host, to dump trump. that would be hard to justify. trump may be a monster, he is the monster republicans created. that is dana millbank. >> he already won. we've been talking about donald trump for 40 minutes. >> 7:00 p.m. at night. >> matt lewis, what is the overall impact here of donald trump and how long does this last? >> well i think he's having a moment. i think that don't just blame the republican party.

this is larger trends the celebrity of politics. fact we lost trust in politicians, they seem impotent right now. they look like game show hosts as sting would say. i think demagogues and strong men are able to exploit moments when it seems like politicians are impotent and the world is coming apart. and, yes, a certain segment of the population feel like their america is -- they're losing the america that they know. and i think trump is exploiting it. he has nothing to lose. he's courageous. he's smart. he's a demagogue. but i think there is the moment for the sister souljah moment and i think jeb bush or somebody has to stand up to him and call him out. i like to see this as more of an opportunity than a challenge. if they can't do it. then they don't deserve to be president. zbh he's not michelle bachmann he is donald trump. decades experience on the national stage. the ability to drive news.

and he has as everybody said he has some strengths. the people in the party, the chairman of the party, the activists, donors are really concerned that he will dominate this process, draw a lot of vote and keep them from being a strong nominee. >> what can they do about it? a phone call from ryan priebus is not going to stop donald trump. >> they have to focus on immigration, he has struck a -- he strikes a cord with a lot of people. >> what is the end game for donald trump though? he's losing money. he's losing business. he's probably not going to be the president. >> well to try to keep rising in the poll and try to win. this field is so crowded. somebody with 17% can win a primary or caucus. and can trump get 17%? >> wow. >> what is he good for an organization state to state on the ground? >> not very many though. the fact is trump really doesn't. he hired some real organizers.

people think like he wouldn't run or if he ran it would be showbiz, he hired people. there are no great organizations throughout with the exception of rand paul right now. >> they could not be different politically. george clinton and george w. bush have gone from foes to friends. casey hunt takes a look at their relationship as bush's brother and clinton's wife maybe headed towards a face-off in the 2016 election. you're watching "morning joe." push your enterprise and you can move the world.

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>> good morning. this is an unlikely friendship in some ways that developed between bill clinton and george w. bush. but that former president's club is pretty small. this is just one of several joint ventures that they're working on together. it's their first public appearance since other members of their family have announced they're running for president. and 2016 could very well put this friendship to the test. >> people began to joke i was getting so close to the bush family i had become the black sheep son. >> 42 and 43. their presidential retirees who have basically become first bros. >> we were laughing about going to restaurants and having to spend our time taking selfies. >> at least they're still asking, you no he? >> george w. bush called clinton his brother from another mother and tagged him for the ice bucket challenge. >> my gift to bill is a bucket of cold water. >> since bush xliii left office they did serious work together

collaborating on a fellow ship program, aid for haiti, building on a relationship that happened when he was still president. >> george burn would call me to talk politics. >> now question is whether they can weather a 2016 campaign where bush's brother could end up facing down bill clinton's wife. >> remember the woman and the candidate asked us about and said what about another clinton-bush matchup and my answer was the first one didn't turn out too good. >> now in 2000 even and also obviously in 1992 the attacks between the bush and clinton's camps got incensetensely personal. it's not out of the possibility that we could see problems in this relationship. >> another issue, bill of course and hillary clinton are criticized for giving speech that's they're paid for. now former president george w. bush is getting criticism over a

speech he gave in 2012. >> this is a situation where, of course, both of the families have made lots of money with speeches that they have given over the course of the years they've been out of the oval office n this particular case george w. bush was the architect of the war in iraq. he gave a speech to a veteran's group. he actually took money in exchange for that speech. the group is defending them self for doing. this they have taken criticism for veterans. take a listen to the attorney saying why this is george bush's responsibility. >> i can understand why they would be offended. but it's not the charity's fault that george bush got paid. all right? if george bush wanted to get paid and we were able to make a million extra dollars, it was a good use of the money. >> so we have nbc news has confirmed that this did in fact occur. he did take money for this speech. president clinton's camp says he has never taken money from a veteran's group to give a paid

speech. katty? >> casey hunt there in dallas for us. thank you very much. mike, it's just amazing how much money these ex-presidents are making from giving speeches. >> yeah. it's out there. $100,000, $250,000 for various presidential speeches. but on this one, i don't think we've nailed down what the bush people did with the $100,000 that he received for giving that speech. you can think whatever you want and i disagree violently with the bush administration's decision to, you know to invade iraq and begin that war. but the president, former president bush has a history of raising all kinds of money from wounded warrior groups and aids in africa and i think we should owe it to him to find out what the bush administration -- what the bush people did with that money. did he keep it or forward it to a charity? i suspect it may be the latter. >> strangely, the report they did, they haven't said that. his office declined to respond.

i cut him a lot of slack on the issues you said. he raised a lot of money. the facts are very strange. i wish they owould clarify so we don't assume the worst about it which is extraordinary if he took this money and pocketed it. >> i'd be surprised if he did. >> still ahead, inside the stock exchange meltdown. a former member of fbi leadership tells us whether we should be concerned about all these technical glitch that's stopped the stock market halted a major usair.s. u.s. airline. it's not a glitch. a glitch is netflix buffering. we decided. (glasses clinking) ♪ (ground shaking) well there goes the country club.

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welcome back to "morning joe." coming up on 7:00 in the morning on the east coast. with us on set, mike barnicle mark halpern, host of msnbc "now with alex wagner," she's here bright and early. >> here i am. >> cnbc brian sullivan and dorian warren and anchor for bbc world america, katty kay. i thought we would start with this confederate flag vote and emotion shown on the floor last night. south carolina now officiallied to take down the confederate flag after more than ten hours of debate that stretched until about 1:00 in the morning last night. the house agreed to remove the flag from a memorial on capitol grounds in colombia. the debate centered on amendments of future display the flag and those criticized those as delay tactics. here is state representative jenny horn with a remarkable speech, an emotional plea on the

house floor last night. >> i attended the funeral of senator clemente pinckney and the people of charleston deserve immediate and swift removal of that flag from this grounds. we can say for another day where this flag needs to go. where the -- which flag needs to fly or where it needs to fly or what museum it needs to be in. but the immediate issue as far as i'm concerned is as a member of the charleston delegation and speaking on behalf of the people in charleston this flag offends my friend mia mcleod my friend john king my friend reverend neil. i cannot believe that we do not

have the heart in this body to do something meaningful such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds on friday! and if any of you vote to amend, you are ensuring that this flag will fly beyond friday. and for the widow of senator pinckney and his two young daughters, that would be adding insult to injury! and i will not be a part of it! i'm sorry. i have heard enough about heritage. i have a heritage. i'm a life long south carolinian. i'm a descendant of jefferson davis, okay? but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horn!

it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off the stace house grounds! we need to follow the example of the senate. remove this flag and do it today! because this issue is not getting any better with age! [ applause ] >> thank you. >> and the house did just that. voting 94-20 to remove the flag. governor nicky haley called it a new day for the state. here's what happens next. governor haley will sign this bill into law. perhaps today. and then she has 24 hours to take the flag down. so we expect the confederate flag to be removed from the grounds there tomorrow at some point. it will then be delivered to the confederate relic room at the military museum a mile from the stace house there in colombia. >> we will be analyzing this for years, just the speed at which this issue this flag has come

down from the state house of south carolina when 15 years ago there was a compromise to keep it up. within a flag, it will be down. it's unharolded how something so symbolic and knowing this flag has been flying since 1961 this is -- the repetitive of this debate in south carolina and led by representative horn who, yeah she said is a descendant of jefferson davis and supported by strom thurmond led by those two white southern south carolinian who's had the courage to say enough is enough. we need to take the flag down. this is going to be an end of an era for that state and for the south. >> and they showed sort of masterful politicking in this and expediting this process, knowing that the longer they wait, the harder it will be to take down. the legislature actually gavelled out and gavelled back

in so it effectively is two days in one so that they could expedite the process of getting this to the governor's desk. this is not just leadership from governor haley, it's if people inside the state house who understood the moment and knew that the more time they wasted the more window -- it would get done. there was a raft of amendments. they managed to get those out of the way and literally get it done. >> just as the victims families showed incredible grace, i think governor haley and the legislatures have shown grace and understanding towards those in the state who don't like this change. i think they've been very generous and not trying to just ram it through or do it in a way that doesn't take into account that there are devided feelings in the state. >> do you think though that what happened in south carolina becomes the litmus test for the confederate flag and symbols of the confederacy or begins and ends in south carolina? >> we've seen it in other states. i think it will move in that direction. there will be lingering things that hang on. i think it's moving that way

without a doubt because in part the example of south carolina and the political leadership. there. >> they've made it so that other states kind vf to follow. >> conservative republican governor and legislature moving so quickly. >> you already heard what the governor of alabama would also republicans in mississippi saying that aspect of the flag should come off. clearly the ball is moving in that direction. you know yes it all happened very quickly in the last month or so. obviously, people are working for decades and decades to pull this down. it wasn't just a few people in the last couple weeks. this is the culmination for a lot of people. let's move to other news. investors were set on whej the new york stock exchange came to a halt for nearly four hours yesterday. america's largest and oldest stock exchange was quick to dismiss speculation that disruption was caused by hacking saying it was an internal technical issue. the trading suspension came in the middle of a selloff in u.s. stocks that was spurred by cratering in china's stock market. the dow jones industrial average fell 261 points, about 1.5% for

the day. meanwhile, united airlines hoping to be back at full speed this morning after a computer problem grounded more than 800 flights yesterday. big problem. it affected tens of thousands of passengers across the country from chicago to denver to l.a. nbc's tom costello has more on the latest problem for the second largest airline in the united states. >> reporter: it all started just after 8:00 a.m. eastern. united says a computer router failed taking off flight scheduling and passenger check in systems. that led to an faa ground stop for all united flights nationwide until 10:00 a.m. got news it happened on wednesday, one of slowest travel days of the week. the bad news it's the height of the summer vacation season. >> it's always frustrating when there is a delay. we have our vacation planned and travel and stuff like that. >> in all, more than 800 flight delays roughly 60 united and united express flights canceled. just the latest disruption cause bid computer glitches since united merged with continental in 2010. the most recent on june 2nd

affected 150 flights. >> you have redund ency. they cannot happen in a full time system that basically has to be on all the time. >> all right. what happened yesterday? let's go back to the new york stock exchange first. >> that's a big question. >> what happened and how big a problem it? >> it's not a big problem i don't think for the airlines. they created the regional monopolyies monopolies, if you live in new jersey or denver, you're stuk with united f you live in minneapolis, you're stuck with dealt yachlt so i think these airlines have created the sort of monday open lists around america so people can scream all they want. i'm never flying this airline again. they have 89% market share out of your airport, you're flying that airline again. and i don't like it. we talked about it last hour. i don't like the g word glitch because there's a lot of people stranded. when you buy a ticket you're supposed to go from a to b. i know you fly a lochlt i fly a

lot. half the time i fly, it's just a miserable -- >> it's abysmal. >> 35,000 feet up. >> it's awful. >> it's misery. >> we're with elizabeth warren for the consumer of air travel. where is she? she's the big consumer person. where is she? you switch your seats. it's like $10,000 to move across the aisle. and then they guarantee you're going to lose your luggage on the way across the aisle. >> you know what? they'll charge you to lose that luggage. >> that's right. i was on a trip a couple weeks ago. what say you katty kay? >> i'm flying united tonight to london. i hope they solve the problems. >> good luck you to. >> send your bags ahead. >> don't take any bags. perhaps just don't fly. i agree with brian. the number of times all of us have been stuck at airports and promised that we would never go through this again and that we would switch allegiance and then we're stuck because there is nowhere else question go to. we have to go on the airlines much we all travel so much.

the railroad system in america really just doesn't work very well. it's useless. and we just don't have that option. this is going to keep happening. and the more i think what happened yesterday was interesting because we had "wall street journal" we had a stock exchange. we had united airlines and no relationship between any of those whether we're going to call uber glitches and we are guaranteed we're told this is nothing to do with cyber terrorism or hacking. but what it did show is our incredible reliance on computer systems and when those systems go down look how quickly millions of people suffer because of it. >> brian, do you sense that private companies are ahead of the ball in terms of cybersecurity or cyber management? >> i don't know. >> it's just a terrible -- it's not an outside force trying to break in and just bad infrastructure. to what degree are they going to be able to fix this and keep up with the times given the volume of information and how dependent we are on technology? >> i wish i could answer.

that i don't know if they're ever going to be able to keep up with it. hackers are one step ahead. small groups of dedicated people, they always say about politics, can change the world. small groups of people who want to do harm to a computer system probably can. >> but it is technology. it is actually a glitch right? >> i was thinking about this last night. sort of my glitch issue is not just about united or the nyse. go back and i'm on a business network. we talk about this all the time. the systems are down. we live in a sort of bizarre world now where everything is controlled by the system. you call customer service. it doesn't matter who they are. they press two to talk to another machine. and i wonder if companies are going to at some point maybe we hit this peak nonsense where companies are going to start to reinvest -- i'm speaking hopefully here -- but reinvest in humans. maybe people will pay a little more to get even a slight human experience now. >>

>>. >> they talk my language. zeros and ones. >> republicans criticize democrats sometimes for calling them spending investment. we need a massive investment in old infrastructure roads and trains and technology. part of why the irs doesn't work well is their technology is outdated. >> why don't more companies, more american companies get called out on the fact that many of their call centers, you know when you push two to talk to someone, they're not located in the united states? >> good point. but more are coming back to the united states because there have been companies that have moved their call centers. there is a private company called galaxy solutions. they move from india to detroit. it was cheaper in detroit all in plus they got better service, right? that is just one company i know of. but there are some that are coming back because i think we all know when you have this lag on the phone and stuff like. that mark, to your point, i don't know how much you talked

about this, sort of busy on the other side of the river over there. have you seen this portman shoer bill? >> yes. >> on infrastructure. they want to force repatriation for corporate profits to pay for roads. i'm not a big political guy. i'm a big anti-pothole guy. >> that's the platform you're running on. >> i'm on the anti-pothole plap form platform who is down with opp. >> let's go into jamboree. >> thinking for that. >> feel me flow? >> the hits are higt. >> a deep track, too. >> deep cuts from brian sullivan. >> let's go now to an nbc interview with donald trump the presidential candidate talking to katie tur yesterday, the republican national committee meanwhile has confirmed to nbc that chairman ryan priebus spent an hour with trump on the phone following thant view talking about a wide range of topics and a source says that priebus urged trump to tone it down when it

comes to comments on immigration. here is trum notary public that interview doubling down on the comments he made in the announceme in. t speech. >> i'm talking about the mexican government force ms. bad peoples many bad people in our country because they're smart. they're smarter than our leaders and their negotiators are better than what we have to a degree you wouldn't believe. they're forcing people into our country. this guy that killed wonderful young woman from san francisco, went back to mexico. they forced him out. they force people into our country. and they are drug dealers and they are criminals of all kind. we are taking mexico's problems. i have great relationship with the mexican people. i have many people working for me, you can look at the job in washington i have many legal immigrants working for me. many come from mexico. they love me. i love them. if i get the nomination, i'll win the latino vote. hillary is weak on immigration. i may be divisive on immigration, but she is weak on immigration which is far worse.

hillary would let everybody come in killers, criminals, drug dealers, everybody. if you listen to hillary, everybody is going to be flow through the nation. i'll make that wall inpenetratable, okay? you don't have to worry about how high it will be. and mexico will pay for that wall. >> joining us now, "washington post" reporter robert costa who wrote the story about that conversation between priebus and trump. good to see you this morning. let's talk about the relationship that donald trump has with the rest of the field, the relationship he has with the republican party. what do you suspect he told him in that conversation and how do you think trump responded? >> i spoke with several people briefed on the conversation. it was pretty candid. prybus made outreach to hispanic voters and calming down the primary, the central mission of his chairmanship. trump has come into that mission like a political tornado. prieus about is interesting because he is friendly with trump. he solicited donations from him

in the past, huddled with him at trump tower. we go to trump and give the message in a soft way. so after trump left a voice mail for priebus on friday he called him back this week yesterday. and he said to trump, look i respect your candidacy. you're doing good things on certain fronts. but when it comes to immigration, you have to understand that reaching out to hispanics is crucial for our party and you have to "tone it down." zbh robert what was the degree of danger posed to the republican party? was it referenced at all according to your reporting, knowledge in that conversation? and more importantly, what is the over/under on how long he got to talk to donald trump dur an hour long conversation? >> priebus started without giving him an update on the calendar and primary schedule and how everything is going with the debate. he wanted to make sure he was on the same page when it come to the first debate especially in august in cleveland. trump did talk a lot about what

he has seen on the campaign trail. this comes after days of pressure from donors, party leaders who have privately said to priebus, something has to be done. they expected trum top fade away and a summer fling for the republican party. but now they really feel threatened that his candidacy is real and he is sucking up all the other oxygen in the field. >> so i talked to folks who say the chairman's call is important. but there is only so much he can do. and i don't bet that donald trump's behavior is going to be that affect bid a 45-minute phone call. so my question to you is if the current trend continues, if donors are concerned, what else could the party do or the donors do to try to either affect trump's behavior or diminish the standing? >> i think you nailed it earlier, mark. there is pressure not only from donors and some party leaders on priebus but it's going from donors and party leaders to other contenders. there is pressure on trump's rivals to speak up not to just wait to the debate but to really

engage. as everyone said no one wants to get into a ring with donald trump, someone who is a media master when it comes to understanding how to control your message on the airwaves and get publicity. >> what about donald trump's last 30 years in public life makes anyone think he is going to tone it down? >> is his brand predicated on ramping it up? >> everything has come from behaving just like this. in his mind he's doing great for the republican party and the hispanic vote. so from his point of view what he is saying is not just popular right now. he thinks it's smart politics. >> mitt romney got 24% of the hispanic vote. donald trump has a lot of work to do. >> he has got a lot of work to do. he's not doing himself any favors. we had the case yesterday just here in washington i was going to ask robert about that. the super chef becoming the latest big figure to pull out of a donald trump enterprise. he was going to have the sfraunt

and the new hotel. he said no. i wonder at what point there is -- we start seeing businesses doing what politicians are not doing. it's the kind of wonder of market forces that we get to a critical mass. in a way if yurt business that doesn't dissociate yourself from donald trump, you start getting criticized. everybody else is doing it. and theret ones saying this is not okay. we're actually responding to voters interests and to our consumers' interests and they're stepping up where the politicians -- where the other candidates are not doing it robert. >> you're right. i spoke to several allies of trump in the last 12 hours. they say trump is certainly feeling the pressure. but he has a mentality and he surrounded by insiders in his circle who are telling him to fight on. for example, this weekend he's going into nevada. he's going to las vegas. then he's going to arizona to speak in phoenix on border security and immigration. instead of retreating on immigration and taking his advice to tone it down he's

going to arizona to talk to the republican base about that issue. >> all right. bob costa with "the washington post," always good to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> still ahead on "morning joe," there is new leadership this morning for baltimore's police department. why the city's mayor suddenly fired the commissioner there. plus, a judge deals another blow to the washington redskins fight to keep using that name. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] when you're serious about fighting wrinkles,

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time to get a look at the morning papers. the "baltimore sun," the police department in the city is under new leadership as the murder rate continues to rise. yesterday mayor stephanie blake announced the firing of police commissioner anthony bats who like the mayor is being criticized for the city's handling of the riots and the spike in violence that followed. there have been 156 murders in baltimore so far this year. that is a 50% increase over last year. and more than half of them occurred after the death of freddie gray w so much attention on the case, the mayor says the

department has lost focus on the mission of actually fighting crime. i want to ask you about this. do you think that getting rid of the person at the top will make the rest of the police department in baltimore more responsive to the public? >> potentially. staying with the status quo is not making the department more responsive. in fact, the police union there had issued a scathing report arguing that the top brass of the department instructed many of the officers not to engage with those who are rioting or looting and so there is a lot of concern among the rank and file about the pressure they were getting from the top not to do their jobs. and so i think a change in leadership is the only possible outcome to try to switch up that dynamic that came from complaints not only from residents but from the rank and file officers themselves. >> in this morning's "washington post," federal judge ordered the cancellation of the redskins trade mark yesterday that upholds an earlier patent ruling that team's name may be

disparaging to native-americans. the team which is used the controversial name redskins since the 1930s is free to continue to use its name and logo under common law rights though it now loses certain protections. the team has vowed to appeal the ruling which won't go into effect until after that process is finished. your turn. >> i mean i'm head of the -- if you're the head of the anti-pothole party, i'm head of the anti-washington football team name party. that's very rebose. it's time. it's amazing that it is still considered it may be -- it may be controversial. look at the logo. look at the name. >> snyder is going to fight it. >> you know, there are a couple things. for all the redskins fans out there freaking out this is a federal judge. they can still use -- remember this is virginia corporation. the washington redskins -- i get all choked up. the washington redskins actually play in virginia. so under state law, they can

keep the logo. you can maybe make a t-shirt now and not pay them royalties under this ruling. i wouldn't be surprised to see them take it to the supreme court. what was interesting about the ruling was the judge didn't cite objections now, alex. what the judge cited why did you ever name the team this back in 1937 because they were the what before then? >> they were the boston braves. >> he said back in 1898 people said that this was an offensive term. >> or over 100 -- >> my wife went to the university of miami in ohio. they were the redskins. they became the red hawks in '96. >> what a know it all you are. >> i do know where my wife went to school. is that unusual? >> coming up we have more tips on potholes from brian sullivan along with the question may no longer be if senator elizabeth warren the change the democratic party but how dramatic the

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in 2008 democrats ran for president by saying there were massive forces of globalization and technology that were putting pressure on the middle class and republican policies were wrong. now hillary clinton saying the deck is stacked against you. that means someone stacking the deck. it's an attack on the economi elite of this country. it's a huge shift for someone like hillary. what we don't know is whether hillary is going to adopt the policies or to what extent she's going to adopt the policies of bernie handers and elizabeth warren but we know that bernie sanders is traveling the country getting crowds of 8,000 and 10,000 people with demands for wealth redistribution which is also really dramatic for a party that spent several decades trying to be close to wall street and trying to assure the country they have nothing against wealth. >> michael, senator warren enormously popular as we all know and her message resonates with many many americans. we all know that as well. but is she in the piece, is she aware that within her message and we mention the word motivation that many people

allied with her in a sense, politicians allied with her and people allied with her just i had logically are now beginning to sense, you know little less stress on motivations that you're accusing people of having improper bad motivations instead of coming together more? >> no. she is clearly trying to burn some bridges here. and i think that's what distinguishes her. it is one thing if she was just another progressive in the senate. there are a lot of very progressive people in the senate who agree with warren. but warren is actually attacking mary joe white at the scc, attacking president obama by name stopping president obama's nominees. she believes that this -- that left of the country needs to fight tougher and she really is a democrat by party but not a democrat by tradition. she didn't run for office until she was 63. she was a republican. she is a liberal. she doesn't have the same loyalties that most people in the senate do to parties. she believes she's there to

break some china and she's doing it. now whether there is a backlash like there has been against ted cruz who has been doing something similar in the republican party and how far it goes is an open question. but it is also true that a the love the issues she has the public support. someone like hillary clinton right now who is trying to get democratic sport can't come out against warren too strongly when 90% of the democratic party thinks the government should do more to fight inequality. >> how is senator warren handling i had logically and personally the pressure from some quarters for her to come out and back bernie sanders? >> she has said that she is not yet going to go on the campaign trail. she's praised bernie for what he said. i think it's clear that her strategy here is to put as much pressure on hillary clinton as she can. and if that means going out on the trail with bernie sanders, she can do. that we're in a waiting period. the next few weeks, hillary will be giving a number of speeches laying out the economic vision and putting specific policies

out about what she's going to do about banks and wall street. and i think warren is waiting for that. and clinton and her campaign knows that if she doesn't go far enough, a couple words from warren will do enormous amount of damage. so whether that involves going out and making common cause, we don't know. >> michael, we know there were meetings between the clinton campaign and the warren campaign earlier and the end of last year. is that an on going conversation? >> there contacts and a lot of the economists who inform a lot of what warren is pushing are working with the clinton campaign right now to come up with their policies. the clinton campaign reached out to warren on her education speech her student loan speech a couple weeks ago. but it's not a close working relationship. and it's not -- just as warren had never had a very close personal relationship with barack obama when he was embracing her, you just don't have that. there is not a common cause here. warren is a fighter.

she's, you know will work with clinton and i wouldn't be surprised if she appears on stage with clinton at some point later this year or early next year. but i don't think they're going to be back room allies at any point. >> the new issue of "time" magazine is on news stantdz everywhere -- news stands everywhere this friday. thank you. up next joe sits down with cold play's chris martin and he has an announcement you don't want to miss. we'll be right back with that. how much protein does your dog food have? 18%? 20? introducing nutrient-dense purina one true instinct with real salmon and tuna and 30% protein. support your active dog's whole body health with purina one.

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this year's global citizen festival in september when this woman you might recognize will take the stage to lend her voice for change in justice. ♪ >> we're announcing that beyonce will join pearl jam, cold play and many others in a special free concert with one goal to end extreme poverty by the year 2030. joe got a chance to sit down with hugh evans, the ceo of the global poverty project, grandson of nelson mandela and cold play's chris martin to talk about today's big announcement. >> we're here atop 30 rockefeller plaza. on september the global poverty project is hosting global citizens festival the great lawn. it's amazing every year. who is going to be there this year? >> well, joe, we're really excited this year for the 2015

global citizen festival will be held lined by pearl jam, beyonce and cold play. it's going to be the most amazing year. >> cold play? why would he have cold play there? >> because their song which is sky full of stars inspears me every time i listen to it. >> every time. >> chris this is shocking to me. actually we were talking before you came out here. you said there was no way in hell you would ever play for anything that hugh was associated with. >> i did say that. >> he just pulled you in. >> i said it on the record. >> on the record. >> he's one of us is lying. >> well, we're going to work through it. so actually talk about why you got involved and the community and how this is different from you know it started really with woodstock and then we grew up and saw live aid, farm aid. but this is actually very different. >> yeah. the thing that has in common is

just the coming together of lots of musicians and as a singer it's just so fun when we all show up at the same place. it can be quite lonely pursuit. so a festival by its very nature is a very communal and friendly atmosphere. and i think that global citizen is harnessing that community towards to also try to say something useful. it gives us a chance to shoate things we care about. and this obviously more power in togetherness than just trying to do it on your own. >> and, hugh we're used to sitting at home watching great artists perform and calling a number, giving money. and then hoping the money goes to the right place. this actually is a far different construct. you and chris actually just got back from india where you guys are going. and this isn't just about writing a check and hoping it gets somewhere. fwz it's about applying pressure on world leaders. >>way want to turn the model of

active on its head. instead of people paying a certain amount of money for a ticket and thinking that is the end of it we said we have to think about how do you build a movement? i believe movements have to be 365 days a year. so starting to day global citizens can go online and actually earn their way into the festival through taking actions. so one such action they can call the u.s. state department today and actually make a phone call and encourage the u.s. government to increase their investment in supporting the poorest the poor through their own foreign aid budgets. and so this is where global citizens are trying to harness a generation of activists and volunteers who can take actionst actionstactionst. we want this to be a 365 day movement where world leaders can make commitments. >> you've been involved for three years. what progress are are you seeing? >> i think over the last 15 years we've seen tremendous progress. we've been able to have extreme

poverty, levels around the world. what global citizens has really done is find a way to connect with younger audiences and show them how to utilize music to be active participants and making actions towards our future ultimately. >> what is in store this year that's new? >> i think what's in store this year firstly, it's the year when the world is coming together. and the united nations will announce a new set of global goals for sustainable development. these are 17 goals that have the potential if achieved to actually end extreme poverty by 2030. and so that's our dream. and what's also really new is that chris has recently made a 15-year commitment for the global citizen festival for the next 15 years. do you want to talk a bit more about that? >> that's amazing. >> that means i'll be 79 years old. >> exactly. what did you see in global citizen that made you commit 15 years of your life to this? that's remarkable? >> honestly i saw togetherness and a acceptance of all other

ngos. i felt they wanted to embrace it and also the idea of community action. you don't just give money and watch it -- don't know where it goes. it's about using your own voice and as a singer question do that and also as a student or whatever you do and you can have some part to play. >> there really has been a coming together it seems. i'm just going off of like what chris is saying it's not a hippy dippy idea. this is something now that i think more citizens across the globe are really starting to focus on regardless of ideology. >> it's true. president obama and huge credit to bono and product red and the one campaign for leadership on this. they did a great job in ultimately encouraging president obama to take the leadthe rains and the trance formation that we've seen with our firsthand. it's just been remarkable. and so huge credit to republicans for taking leadership on that and more

recently the democrats and when president obama was elected, we now seen that funding for food security hunger aleveiation has gone up dramatically in the last five years from what was $335 million per annum to now $1.5 billion per annum under obama's leadership. trying to get it codified we have sponsors of the bill trying to make sure this becomes a truly bipartisan issue. it's at the core of humanity no one doesn't want to end extreme poverty. everyone wants to see this dream realized by 2030 where no child would die for the lack of a 30 cents immunization. >> let's talk about women's empowerment. that's an issue important to what you're doing. >> women are the largest population of the world at the

moment, yet, they're currently also the most disenfranchised. there's nearly 91 million women who don't have access to universal education. i think it's critically important because we know it's fact girls of today will be the future leaders of tomorrow that we kraed universal education for women ultimately. >> what's cool about what he said is we have just formed a partnership with beyonce's chime for change. they have become the partners of the festival to focus on women's equality worldwide. we know it's critical for the movement to end extreme poverty. >> i think this very simply the dream of a world without extreme poverty by 2030 was quaker's grandfather's great legacy. in his final speef, he said that is the challenge for our generation. i think that's a challenge we

have to take seriously, and i think it would be awesome if this year as chris said if we could see it coming together where global citizen was an idea bigger than any organization. it's not about any organization. it's about whether it's the amazing organization whether it's the one campaign or ox fam or unicef coming together with the gates foundation unified behind this idea that this could be the year to see it tackled. and this september will be the moment to shine. >> let's wrap it by talking about september. talk about what we're going to see. >> well, we're delighted this year wee partnering with richard curtis who is an amazing creative directly. he created love actually to knotting hill. he's going to create a one-hour special. >> what you laughing about? >> one movie to the next movie he made. >> comic relief which is this

amazing -- to you just said two relatively similar films. >> you tell me everything else. >> everything from wheel to the round. >> one romantic comedy based in london to another romantic comedy based in affluent part of london. >> he's amazing. >> we come down on the side of love actually is a great film. >> it is a great film. >> okay so go ahead. >> also we're working with ken erlich which is the renowned producer of the grammys. he's going to help to make the whole six-hour global citizen festival extraordinary. we're going to do stuff this year we have never done before. it's going to go to a new level. in terms of production and also in terms of our ammission because this is the year of the announcement of the global goals. we want to be of service to the united nations. we want to make sure that the goals become famous.

we also want to build a lasting movement for change. >> fantastic. all right, guys. thanks for be with us. >> for more information on how you can get involved and take action visit globalcitizen.org and join me and alex wagner. >> you're doing backup on single ladies, right? >> yes, i am. dancing only. >> saturday september 26th. right here on msnbc. you did it last year. an unbelievable lineup. >> it's awesome. >> we'll see you on the 26th. >> in the unitoward. >> donald trump doubles down on his comments on immigration. does it matter that the leader of the rnc is asking him to tone it down. >> plus a morning after computer problems shut down the new york stock exchange and an airline. and breaking news overnight in south carolina as lawmakers vote to remove the confederate

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create jobs. i will create jobs and latinos will have jobs they don't have right now. and i will win that vote. and everyone thinks gee, trump is not going to do well with that vote. i'll do better with that vote than anybody. >> there you have it. he's going to win the latino vote. welcome to "morning joe." thursday july 9th. who was that? >> donald trump. >> mike barnicle mark halpern, alex wagner. >> what am i doing here? how did i get here? i fell asleep. >> i don't leave. >> alex hosts "now" on nbc. we also havedorian warren and in washington, washington anchor for bbc world news america katty kay, and senior contributor for the daily caller matt lewis. i think i got everybody. >> six-hour episode.

>> 300 guests. >> digging in for the marathon. let's start with the colorful interview between republican presidential candidate donald trump and nbc's katy tur, the republican national committee has confirmed that reince priebus spent nearly an hour on the phone with trump following the interview talking about a wide range of topics and a source briefed on the topics said priebus quote, urged him to tone it down. here is trump doubling down on the comments he made. >> i'm talking about the mexican government forces many bad people into our country because they're smart. they're smarter than our leaders and their negotiators are far better than what we have like to a degree you wouldn't believe. they're forcing people into our country. this guy that killed a wonderful young woman from san francisco, he went back to mexico. they forced him out. they force people into our country, and they are drug dealers and they are criminals

of all kind. we're taking mexico's problems. >> i have great relationship with the mexican people. i have many people working for me, you can look at the job in washington. i have many legal immigrants working. many come from mexico. they love me i love them. i tell you something. if i get the nomination i'll win the latino vote. hillary is weak on immigration. i may be divisive but she's week on immigration, which is far worse. hillary would let everybody come in killers, criminals, drug dealers, everybody. if you listen to hillary, everybody is going to be flowing through the nation. i will make that wall impenetrable. impenetrable. you don't have to worry about how high it will be and mexico will pay for that wall. >> trump's mention of that hotel in d.c. is not by accident. it was response to a question in a washington post article who cited workers who had told them they had come to the united states illegally. he issued a statement that reads

in part our contractors are required to have prospective employees produce documentation that established identity and employment eligibility. let me start with you. reince priebus called donald trump. apparently trump called him earlier and he was returning the call. >> they had a long relationship. >> what does that phone call signal if anything to you? does it mean there's real concern inside the republican party? >> there's a lot more going on than just donald trump talking about immigration. they're worried about donors act haves, the chairman of the party are worried that trump's outsizability to get coverage and drive the debate will not be a problem this week but on many issues going forward. he's unlike anyone else who has ever run for president, and the republican party cannot control him. it's up i think, to the candidates to decide if they want to take him on.

taking him on is a huge risk. if no one takes him on he can dominate the news every week. >> what's the risk of taking him on? >> he has millions of dollars. he can run negative ads, and in a 16-person field, if you take trump on he can probably take you down with him. you may take him down but he'll take you down and someone else will benefit from it. >> don't you think it's an opportunity though? >> i have a piece that makes that point. bill clinton says in politics when people are upset and concerned, it's better to be strong and wrong than right and weak. and mr. trump is strong. that's the big part of his strength. people like how strong he seems. but someone takes him on it's an opportunity. george pataki is the only one who has done it so far, but they're only criticizing him on immigration. if you look he's given money to harry reid for tax increases, a lot of ways you can go after him, but so far, no one has taken the opportunity to do it. >> let's look at some of the other republican presidential

candidates reacting. >> hey, donald i saw your tweet the other day, but i think you better borrow my glasses to look at the steps i took to secure the border while i was governor of texas. i can't support what you said but no one knows the concerns americans have about our poorest border better than i do. >> my party is in a hole with this fence. the first rule of politics when you're in a hole is stop digging. somebody needs to take the shovel out of donald trump's hands. >> you can love the mexican culture. you can love your mexican american wife. and also believe that we need to control the border. this is a bizarre kind of idea that somehow you can have an affection for people in a different country and not think the rule of law should apply. this is ludacris. frankly, as a republican, i want to win elections. i want to win so conservative principles can be applied again to allow people to rise up.

to win, we better start figuring out ways to message our beliefs in a way that gives people hope that everybody will be included in the progress that comes with this. >> some republicans are taking action on trump's campaign donations. senator dean heller said he has taken money he had given to trump to charity. lindsay graum said i'm going to keep the money and keep condemning him. matt lewis, let's go to you. how big a problem, if it is one, for these gop candidates to take so much of their time and air space responding to trump? >> it's a problem and an opportunity. it's a problem that could be very damaging to the republican and the conservative brand. it's sort of the tragedy of the commons problem. you know trump benefits individually at the expense collectively of the conservative brand. there are perverse incentives for him to say horrible things for himself that help him to

moral hazard. i think it's an opportunity. look this is the nfl, and if jeb bush or marco rubio or whomever, if they want to be the nominee, they want to go against hillary or iran or whoever is going to be a tough negotiator, they need to be able to go up against donald trump. if they can't do it maybe they don't deserve to be the nominee. >>dorian, what does it say, do you think, about republican politics at this early stage of this primary campaign that rick perry sounds like a candidate for profiles in courage award, and two, what's your instinct on whether donald trump, as mark pointed out, would campaign against other republicans' negative ads, he would spend his own money doing that? >> this is the problem in the republican party because rick perry is running for the general election. donald trump is running to win the primary nomination. he is talking to a core constituency of the republican

party that agrees with him on these issues. this puts him in a great position in terms of the republican primary. it disadvantages him and the party once it turns to a general election, no matter who wins the nomination. secondly, in terms of his own money. we never know how much money trump really has. so yes, he can spend a lot of his own many. there's all that superpac money that will dwarf probably trump's empty money he's willing to spend especially as his money is cut off as he's losing money with nbcuniversal and many other business interests. his money is not as long as we might imagine especially as he keeps saying things that might benefit him politically but not with his pzs. >> for the moment the polls don't lie. he's in second place. what is his appeal? chris matthews had interesting thoughts on why he resonates with a lot of voters. >> i think if you're sitting in an american legion hall or a

knights of columbus hall, there will be a lot of cheering because they don't trust politicians to deal with the border. they don't think they're anything more than politicians. they make their deal with the ethnic groups, take the money, and nobody has stopped illegal immigration. he said i'm going to stop it. he says it in an ugly way, but he says it. >> you know i think the average guy out there looks up to the gold tower, see his beautiful wife and the way he lives and the fact he'll say whatever he wants and they imagine, a billion dollars, they can't even imagine a billion dollars, and who cares about the margin of error, he's got a lot of money. he says what he wants. they say, that's what i want to be. he's a comic book hero. the average guy doesn't want to be jeb bush or ted cruz. they want to be this guy. he lives like sinatra, has a lot of many seems to enjoy spending it and bragging about it.

the average guy is saying i want to listen to this guy. >> i spent a lot of my summer in northern wisconsin. it's salt of the earth up there. people come up to me all the time and ask about this kind of stuff. what people like about trump is that he doesn't owe anybody anything. you could say the creditors and all the business stuff, but what i moon is most people i talk to in middle america say hey, guess what most politicians go out with their hands constantly out and they're going to say whatever you want them to say to get your money. mayor bloomberg, he didn't owe anybody anything. donald trump he's not gf to live comfortably the rest of his life. he's not beholden to any political interest. that's a big part of trump's attractiveness right now for a lot of people. >> alex how long does this last? is this a trump bubble? >> as long as he remained funded by the democratic party. >> he's the honey badger of

politics. >> he can't be stopped. i'm impressed that reince priebus can get a phone call in because you think he would have made the phone call with some urgency even three weeks ago. the man is beholden to anyone. i am not sure anyone can control the donald. he's going to make it to the debate stage. >> is there a democrat who can step in -- i get your point, but step in with a lot of money and shake everything up because he or she doesn't care what the others think? >> he doesn't care what the facts are. >> is there someone who could jump in on the democratic side? >> a caller compared sanders to trump. trump has drawn more free media than anyone else. while a lot are worried about trump, fox loves trump. they'll put him on and play his themes on immigration and other issues big. that drives a lot of this because if you're a republican who wants to cross trump, you're basically crossing fox now, and in the republican primary,

crossing fox is as dangerous as crossing fox. >> donald trump will be on the stage. must-see tv. katty kay, we have other important news to get to this morning. >> perhaps not as amusing as donald trump, but investors were set on edge when the new york stock exchange came to a halt for nearly four hours. america's largest and oldest stock exchange was quick to dismiss speculation this was caused by hacking, saying it was an internal technical issue. the trading suspension came in the middle of sell-off in stocks caused by a cratering in china's stock market. the dow fell by 261 points. about 1.5% for the day. although they're saying none of the gluchs were related, united wall street journal, and the stock exchange people have got to be worried, right, about the dependence on technical systems that can go wrong like this? >> i think your point is well taken and the consumer and the

retail investor has been burned by the stock marngt in a number of ways in the last five to ten years and this adds yet another glimmer of dissatisfaction. you had a flash crash in 2010 where the market fell hundreds of points. nasdaq was shut down two years ago because of a similar issue, and now this. yes, trading went on. trading continued because there are 11 other stock exchanges out there, but this is very bad for investor confidence. if you're sitting there thinking i would like to buy a couple shares of ibm, you think, maybe i should put my money in real estate or cattle futures. >> you heard the word glitch glitch freezes big board. why don't you like that term? >> it rhymes with glitch i say it like this i had a debate on my show where glitch is a minor issue, according to merriam-webster, the dictionary company. so to strand tens of thousands

of passengers for united airlines or to shut down trading on still, which i know the market share of the nyc has gone from 80 to 25% in ten years but it's still 25%, to eliminate that capital market for a couple hours, that's not a glitch. to me a glitch is a word that a pr person would use to make a big problem -- it's just a glitch. jasper, you shot my foot off. yauz. it was a glitch of the trigger. i have no foot sorry. nobody died, the lights came on but this is not a glitch. by the way for united second time in two months. what if you're going to a job interview, what if you missed a sales meeting, a family meeting or a graduation. they don't think it's a glitch. >> right. >> that's my glitch rant. >> how about super glitch? >> there you go. >> obamacare was plagued by glitches. we can agree glitch is no longer the word to use. >> i want to watch "blue bloods"

i have to wait 20 minutes. >> you see what i'm doing? i'm tying the four-inch short pants with the corduroy. >> i don't know where you're going. >> a magnum p.i. reference. >> i saw four-inch corduroy shorts. i didn't know. i was alarmed. >> a glitch. >> because in the show magnum's middle name was sullivan. >> do you host the wikipedia page? >> no, but that is my favorite show of all time and was my halloween costume last year. >> last year? >> your age? >> i have kids. >> oh. >> were you allowed to be with the kids in the short shorts with the mustache? i'm going to say, if i saw a man with kids in short shorts and a moustache. >> i said i have them.

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breaking news overnight, south carolina has voted to take down the confederate flag. after more than ten hours of debate that stretched well into the evening, into the morning, actually, at 1:00 the house agreed to remove the flag from a memorial on capital grounds in columbia, south carolina. it centers on amendments on the debate of the flag. here's state representative jenny horn with an emotional plea on the house floor last night. >> i attended the funeral of senator clementa pinckney and the people of charleston deserve immediate and swift removal of that flag from this grounds. we can save for another day where this flag needs to go.

where, which flag needs to fly or where it needs to fly or what museum it needs to be in but the immediate issue, as far as i'm concerned, as a member of the charleston delegation and speaking on behalf of the people in charleston this flag offends my friend emma cloud, my friend john king my friend reverend neal. i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds on friday. and any of you vote to amend, you are insuring that this flag

will fly beyond friday. and for the widow of senator pinckney and his two young daughters, that would be adding insult to injury. and i will not be a part of it. i'm sorry. i have heard enough about heritage. i have a heritage. i'm a life-long south carolinian i'm a descentdant of jefferson davis, okay but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horn. it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds. we need to follow the example of the senate. remove this flag and do it today. because this issue is not getting any better with age. thank you.

>> that is republican state representative jenny horn talking about her own lineage, governor nikki haley called the vote that was 94-20 in the end in the house, a new day for the state of south carolina. meanwhile in congress there's a last-minute shift from some republicans to allow confederate flag imagery on graves in federal land. an 11th hour plan would undo democrats plans from decorating some graves with confederate flags. it scales back congress's act. let's go back to last night, though. an incredible speech that was for a lot of people decades if not centuries in the making. >> decades in the making in the context of south carolina. it was not put up in 1861 but 1961. so as we were saying while watching her, that's the trump card.

i think mark said that. i'm a descendant of jefferson davis. you have stram thurman's son giving a passionate speech right after those people including their colleague in the state senate saying what is my purpose in life? my purpose essentially is to lead this charge to take down the confederate flag. so they speak for themselves. come you have a jefferson davis descendant strom thurmond's son saying take down the flag that says enough. i don't know what the 20 people were thinking who voted against taking down the flag. >> i found the swiftness of the reaction, the decision and movement to take down the flag and the sense of emotional cu catharsis amazing. now you feel like i mean this sort of vehemence with which people say it must come down makes me wonder do you think it

always should have come down? there's so much powerful -- >> shootings combined with social media brought that flag down. >> and the fact that one of the tragic victims of the shooting was a colleague of theirs in the state legislature. >> on the outside is great. we have shootings in this country all the time and everyone says something must change, and it doesn'turic i'm struck, too, to be that emotional about it now, what were their feelings a month ago? their silent position that they didn't act on. >> or the year 2000 when there were plenty of people saying this is a painful reminder of our symbol our history, and there was compromise to keep it on the grounds. i guess it's a sign of the timings or awakening. >> an element of courage on the part of governor haley to step up and give the speech when she gave it to take the flag down. >> a month ago, this would have been a nonstarter. one month ago, a political

nonstarter in south carolina. now you have a 94-20 vote in the house there. >> absolutely. obviously, the horrific shooting was the spark that made this political reality possible. but then you need political leadership, people who step up and push it through. and don't try to run out the clock and wait until the moment passes and sort of you know let the tragedy go to waste. and in this case i don't think this is a political exploitation. this is a courageous thing. i want to bring up again, here you have a republican governor nikki haley, a republican senate, and a republican house, all coming together. we heard that impassioned speech. maybe -- i think this flag should have come down a long time ago, but let's being optimistic. this is a very positive sign and going back to donald trump as the republican party hopes to rebrand, you see really a tale of two republican parties here.

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some investors say there's now a bigger threat to the global financial system than greece. stocks surged in china after shareholders with large stakes in listed companies were banned from selling. chinese stocks are still down by more than 25% since mid-june. joining us from aspen, the sight of the aspen institute's annual ideas festival. bianna gol adraga. how are you in downtown aspen, colorado, today, and i have a question for you. what impact if any, minimal or max nm is the chinese stock market and what's happening to the chinese economy having potential here in the united states in our economy? >> potentially, it could have a huge impact. first, good morning to you. the ideas festival is over full disclosure. too many airline glitches.

i decided to stay a few days longer here in beautiful aspen. but going back to your question it was a big wakep call for china overnight. you look at the stock market. you talk about the 30% drop since june. a 150% rise over the past year. that's a classic bubble that really defied fundamentals and the think about the chinese stock market is it's largely weighed on mom and pop investors. chinese citizens are trying to bring up through the middle class, which is good on one part. on the other part they're affected much more than individual investors here in the united states would be. we're seeing a rebound. that's good news but a wakep call for them yesterday. >> within the chinese government the hierarchy whatever they have over there, is there a hank paulson, ben bernanke figures like that that can influence and correct the market itself? >> sure but for the past year

instead of being concerned about this run-up they have been touting how great their economy really is and how robust and how it's growing. in levels we haven't seen in other countries around the world, which is true but at the same time, you have a transparency issue in countries like china. when they come out and say the economy is growing at let's say 7%, where we saw 10% earlier, you have to take that with a grain of salt. the reason why u.s. investors should be concentrated on what's going on is not necessarily because you or i may own chinese stocks and in fact only 1% of foreign investors are in the chinese stock market right now. it's because of the ripple effect, and a, confidence and b, the second largest economy in the world and the largest owner of u.s. debt. >> you're making excellent points here. i will trump that and say not just salt taken with a grain, but how about organic sea salt. i know a lot of people who do not believe the data that comes out of china.

they'll say 7% growth. guys on wall street are like that sounds good. let's not forget the average income in china is about $5,000 u.s. dollars a year. a leverage based economy which is a fancy way of saying you borrow money to by stock or borrow money to buy real estate. there are apartments in beijing and shanghai that go for 100 times the average income of those cities. it's a borrowing culture. >> yeah and they made it rheeeally easy over the past few years to bring the middle class into a growing marketplace, which is a good thing, but on the flip side you have families that are investing in mom and pop sort of start ups that are a huge run-up that don't necessarily meet the fundamentals, and we have seen a huge decline in the stocks too. interesting to see how the chinese handle what happened yesterday. they should have stepped in much sooner but halting stocks as

they did, starting new funds, seems to work. lowering interest rates as well. but that's not a permanent fix, brian. >> what does this do for american companies that have production facilities in china? >> well that's a good question because you look at the growth from u.s. companies, from companies around the world, and all eyes have been on china. i interviews the ceo of ford, and they introduced the new lincoln continental. the second largest purchaser of that was the chinese. they like these status cars they like u.s. brands. the big question is when chinese consumers see a huge dropoff like that and see their asset shares continue to plummet, will they continue to buy goods from u.s. companies? that's something that really should worry investors. >> good morning. we're a little jealous of you out in aspen. >> it is early, though. >> it looks really great. i want to ask you about greece. there's a sunday deadline for

greece to figure out and strike a deal with its european partners to prevent its economy from collapsing. what are you hearing and what's the update we should know about? >> the thing about greece is there's not one exit solution right? i mean on the one hand, they put themselves into this position. on the other hand if they exit it's going to affect not only europe but ripple effects here as well. when it comes to confidence. so you see germany may be overplaying their hand. you see greece agreeing to sit back at the table and reshuffling their cabinet, and hopefully some of the neurosises that both sides seem to have will fade and they'll focus on buying more time and hope talefully easing some of the tensions going on internally in the runt country country. >> greece has a dlooe-year deal. they're saying extend the deal for three years. we'll see what happens. i want to make one other point about greece because it seems like this global macro huge

issue that is confusing and a lot of bickering back and forth. i went to greece in 2010 when the problems first began. and michelle caruso-cabrera has been there a couple weeks now. we have talked online and off line. all the stuff you hear about, the complexity the debt and all this stuff, the big thing that everybody on the street will tell you in athens when they get angry is two things. number one, they're mad at germany, still. number two, this is about raising the retirement age. the greeks retire at about 56 or 57. part of the deal the main europeans want is to raise it up a couple years to match the rest of europe. despite all the complexity no it's not. the greeks don't want their retirement age risen. you see these protests a lot are filled with retirees and pensioners. >> the point made over the weekend that it could be seen as a bit hypocritical on germany's point when you think back to the massive amount of debt they were

forgiven after world war ii and you go through historically no economy really can survive when they have that much debt. there has to be some sort of solution here, and it's just a matter of who budges more. from an investor's standpoint aside from greece if this doesn't work out for greece there are bigger fish in the equation. you've got portugal and then i'm telling you, investors are going to look at italy as well and spain. that's where you go back to the scenario we saw in 2008. >> the greeks have to solve their own problems too. there's a tax on swimming pools in greiss. if you have a peelool, you get an extra tax. there was a guy who designed custom made pool covers that looks like lawns so people could avoid taxes. they spend thousands on the pool cover to avoid paying taxes. >> the people are the ones who elected this government too, which hasn't been cooperating.

>> the hypocrisy of germany as mentioned is a standout. >> hold on, germany was broken in half at that point. germany was broken in half at that point. they made the deal before '53, part of the marshall plan and it wasn't a haircut on the dent. it was based on output what germany's economy was going to do later. >> you can talk all you want about haircuts but they got their debt halved. >> that's not true. >> the country was cut in half. i'm not defending -- there is some hypocrisy. >> some? >> it's not as clear cut as sort of the "new york times" wrote about, right? germany was already split in half. they were under siege by the soviets. it wasn't like they reduced the value of the debt by half. a lot had to do with interest rates were allocated down the road. i'm trying to finish it up in ten seconds. impossible. >> not apples to apples is what

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and a fire hydrant. >> that's right. we're not far from selleck's house. in the neighborhood, there are signs of california's crippling drought just about everywhere. lawns are brown. folks have been ordered to cut their water use by 25%. now a local water district said selleck was taking water from a local fire hydrant that didn't belong to him. known to millions as magnum p.i. it took a real life private investigator to accuse one of hollywood's biggest stars of stealing water. this morning, tom selleck is in hot water. a lawsuit claims a truck routinely pulled cotter prom a public hydrant and hauled it eight mimes away to his private, plush, 60-acre ranch. >> we have a number of folks, households in the service area ripping out their turf. have drastically reduced outdoor and indoor water use. it's really about doing the right thing. >> the suit says over 18 months

water was repeatedly siphoned from the hydrant. one week alone, the truck observed making seven tips into and four trips out of the hidden valley area where the selleck property is located. this woman watched the truck holloway load after load of water. >> it's bad that we are actually paying our bills, being on top of it, and we have people that come and take advantage of that. it's not fair. >> selleck, who owns an avocado farm on his ranch -- >> i heard this year was an off year. >> a drought year. it's horrible. >> did not respond to our request for an interview. but has spoken before about trucking in water. >> we need rain because we're on wells, so that hasn't worked. in the summer i have been trucking water. >> in the middle of the trip crippling drought, they're demanding he's obey the law. today, selleck is being sued for $21,000. though some say the price paid in the court of public opinion could be even higher.

the water district says it wants to recoup the cost of hiring the private investigator. the sheriff tells nbc news the actor does not face any criminal charges. >> miguel almaguer, thank you very much for the report. this is -- >> maybe he was just changing the water in his pool magnum ph. >> should i respond to that? >> can you? >> what -- >> mr. marshall plan. >> are you drunk? >> i wish. >> oh, my goodness. nothing to say to that. but we'll be right back with more "morning joe." >> how about good one? new york state is reinventing how we do business by leading the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes. we enacted the lowest corporate tax rate since 1968. we eliminated the income tax on manufacturers altogether.

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new hampshire union's editorial board for an interview. arguably the most important person in the primaries, joe mcquaid, the leader. his response to a question on his forthcoming tax plan raised eyebrows. >> my aspiration for the country and i believe we can achieve it is 4% growth as far as the eye can see. which means we have to be a lot more productive work force

participation has to rise from its all time modern lows. means that people need to work longer hours. and through their productivity gain more income for their families. that's the only way to get out of the rut we're in. >> the democratic national committee pounlsed on the remarks saying bush was blaming workers. and the thedline bush says people need to work later hours led him to clarify his hours. >> under this administration they have made rules that make it harder for people to work. the overtime rule is going to create not more opportunities, but people are going to work less. obamacare has forced businesses to hire people for 30 hours rather than 40 hours. nancy pelosi and barack obama and hillary clinton think it's great because now they're free to pursue their dreams they might want to do. i think people want to work harder to have more money in their own pockets, not to be

defendant on economic. >> have you seen a campaign where candidates end up not clarifying their remarks. >> this is not a gaffe, not some sort of horrible thing he said. he just didn't speem exactly clarifying in a way that allows the democrats to distort it. i think this stuff is silly. >> hillary clinton's interview the other day on cnn after it played, we began talking about things she had said prior to the interview four eight years ago. you noticed something interest interesting about it. >> i covered the clintons since the early '90s. jimmy carter was here the early day and i asked how he compared them politically, he said he thought they were politically equal. you hear a lot of the rhetoric of the master. >> this thing's been going on for over three years. >> this has been a theme that has used against me and my husband for many many years. >> that's your characterization

not mine. >> you're starting with so many assumptions. >> that's up to the american people. >> we're going to do the best we can to level with people and let them make up their minds. >> let voters make up their minds. >> we're doing our best to cooperate here. >> i wanted to go above and beyond what was expected of me. >> this will test the character of the press. >> i'm well aware of the fact that it's your job to raise those, and we'll do our best to respond to them. >> clinton campaign ended up putting a rope line to keep the press a little back from her in the parade. >> no credible charge that i violated any law. >> everything i did was permitted by law and regulation. >> it depends upon what the means of the word is. >> the law, the regulation did not in any way stand in my way of being permitted to do what i did. >> have you done a lot of good things with this money? yes. >> i'm so proud of the clinton

foundation. >> i feel good about what happened today. >> i feel very good about where we are. >> i feel good about yesterday. >> i feel very good about where my campaign is. >> she's got a lot of communications advisers and i'm sure she prepared at length for the interview. again, in the toughest moments, she always goes back to the thing that worked which is her husband is pretty good at answering questions even in tough situations. >> not only that but you've got bernie sanders now polling well in new hampshire, drawing huge crowds in iowa, yet still, you have to say, hillary clinton is a lock on the nomination right now. wouldn't you say so? >> i think sanders is unlikely to beat her, but i never like to say no somebody can't win. the voters should have the bigger say but he does have the ability to threaten her in a lot of ways. some of the toughest questions in the interview were about bernie sanders and the source of his popularity and overtime we should look not to see could sanders beat her, but can he

influence the ability of her to be a strong election candidate. >> i guess sometimes i'm the only one who has to remind myself this is still 2015 and we have 16 months until the election. there's plenty of time for the hot candidates. you have seen it. hot candidates often burn out early. >> hillary clinton for the democratic nomination is built to last. they say they expected a challenge. she's not one now. bernie sanders can do a lot to make her life miserable between now and the determination of the nominee nominee. >> what do you think the end game factor is the weight of the clintons' history, just the weight of it. we watched the clip. all of this around them. >> there's pluses and minuses to it. pluses in the fact that the clinton presidency was considered successful. there's minuses, a lot of people don't want a return to the clinton days. in the end, as much as we focus on the two of them it's about her ability to convince the american people she's the best

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these grounds on friday. and if any of you vote to amend, you are insuring that this flag will fly beyond friday. and for the widow of senator pinckney and his two young daughters, that would be adding insult to injury. >> obviously, state representative jenny horn in charleston, south carolina, yesterday, talking about the dplag coming down and the accelerated pace of the movement was striking. mark, what did you learn? >> jenny horn of south carolina has a lot of passion. >> brian? >> the clintons feel good. >> what? >> the clintons feel good. >> okay. >> we learned that jenny horn and the son of strom thurmond can lead the charge to take down the old confederate flag being descendants of the old confederacy. >> that linkage is incredible.

strom thurmond, 1948. >> and horn is a descendant of jefferson davis. >> the flag raises in 1948 and coming down today. >> jenny horn is coming up on "the rundown," which is coming up next. good to be with you. i'm frances rivera in for jose diaz-balart. breaking news from south carolina. you're looking live at the confederate flag flying over the state house for the last time. just after 1:00 a.m. this morning, the state house voted to take it down. the historic vote paves the way for the governor to sign a bill and bring the flag down once and for all. but it took a full day of debate for house lawmakers to finally get there. >> the whole world is asking if south carolina really going to change or will it hold to an ugly