good afternoon. as we come on the air, south carolina is set to make history by reversing history. next hour governor nikki haley will sign legislation that will completely remove the confederate flag from the state capitol grounds. it was 15 years ago that the state removed it from the capitol dome moving it to the confederate soldier monument on the north side of the building. tomorrow morning, the symbol will be removed once again, this time to the military museum that is about a mile from where it currently flies. the final vote in the wee hours of this morning was 94-20. and many believe the speech that tipped the scales came from a direct descendent frof jefferson davis. >> i attended the funeral of

senator cle men take pinckney. and the people of charleston deserve immediate and swift removal of that flag from this ground. this flag offends my friend john king, my friend reverend neil. i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds on friday! >> wow. incredible emotion there. joy reed is outside the south carolina state capitol. and joy, i imagine that emotions are still running quite high there this afternoon ahead of the governor signing this bill.

>> yeah, absolutely, crystal. you showed the emotion that jenny horn show. it was really important for two reasons. she is a republican. it was republicans who were filibustering by offering dozens of amendments being put on the floor. when jenny horn got up she not only talked about the importance of redeeming what happened in charleston, but also the fact that she herself is a descendant of jefferson davis who would have been the president of the confederacy. i will tell you that that moment did help to break the log jam and it helped the bipartisan compromise to come together. we are waiting within the hour governor nikki haley will actually sign the bill that came out of that compromise last night. at 10:00 tomorrow morning, the flag will actually come down. we've been talking with people here on the capitol grounds about how they feel about the flag coming down. take a listen to what some folks had to say. >> i came out to witness a

little bit of history. i wanted to be able to be part of something that says i was there, tell me kids, i was there they took down the flag for the state house. it was a different time period that's going to be started. >> you want to fly it at your house, you want to fly it on your belt buckle. you go ahead and do it. but not everybody's state capitol. this symbol of hate needs to go and i'm so proud that they're taking it down and i drove from charlotte so my daughter could see it. >> reporter: and crystal, a lot of what we're hearing is people feel very proud of the state and the legislature. but they also want to see more leadership on other issues. the state of course not accepting the medicaid expansion expansion. so now we're waiting to see what kind of ceremony or how they actually move tomorrow morning to bring that flag down. back to you guys. >> joy reed in columbia for us.

thank you so much joy. >> and for more let's bring in nbc news senior political reporter perry bacon. this is far broader than south carolina, as you know. tell us what's happening in columbia having a larger impact nationwide? >> you're seeing the republican party, i think if you look at what we saw the republican chairman call donald trump yesterday and said, please tone down your comments. i take this and the flag issue in south carolina as well to say the republican party is aware they have the perception of being the party that's not racially tolerant enough not diverse enough. and the leaders there, nikki haley, john boehner, they're trying to do stuff to address that. the problem being you have issues like what happened at the house yesterday where you have an idea they're trying to remove the confederate flag you have an amendment that says they can keep the flag in certain places in national parks and so on. that makes the party look like

it doesn't have its sort of message together. one step forward two steps back et cetera. they all want to be moving in the same direction on these kind of issues of race and diversity. >> we cannot have you on without talking a little bit of 2016 politics. let's turn to hillary clinton. there was an interesting article in the "new york times" about the danger of hillary moving potentially too far to the left. it strikes me that there's a bit of a pair docks here. if asked, government's too big but on the specific issues that hillary is championing so far, universal prek upping the minimum wage those individual items are quite popular. what do you make of that? do you think she's in danger right now of positioning herself too far to the left? >> i do not. i think we can safely say that secretary clinton is fairly political.

she thinks about how things will play out. if you look at the poll numbers, they're talking about having debt-free college. makinge sure states pay enough money so you can go to a state school. that idea polls in like the 70s or the 80%. a lot of republican support that. when you talk about expanding paid leave, expanding sick leave, these ideas are very popular. i don't think there's a lot of risk in proposing them. when you talk about jeb bush opposing the minimum wage, the risk to the republican side. i think big government itself is always dangerous. so i think right now she's in a pretty safe place in terms of where she's talking about. these are government entitlements but they're not talking about overhauling the entire health care system or something like that. >> there is another person running for the democratic

nomination. his name is bernie sanders. he is surging right now. we have pieces from nate silver saying sanders' support is not built to last. the bernie phenomenon is happening among white liberal democrats. his coalition is not to date is multi- multi-racial coalition. >> i've been in this place before. in 2003 i was with another vermont liberal. his name was howard dean. he drew crowds of 10,000 as well. the democratic party has a lot of liberals, also has a lot of moderates and conservatives. so far the more moderate democrats in the polls and people of color tend to be pro hillary right now. that could change. i do think the one thing is politics is very dynamic. the democratic party has become more liberal these last six or seven years.

i think there's room for sanders to grow his support. i think it's hard for someone like sanders to be president. he doesn't seem like he's a president. my guess is, you look at e lizwet warren there is some anti hillary energy out there. there are people that want a more left candidate. to get back to the question, i think a lot of what hillary's trying to do is roach that left audience that wants a more strong progressive candidate. clinton campaign is noticing that bernie sanders is drawing 10,000 people. she won't say what her view is on tpp for example. i think it's because she sees a lot of liberal democrats are opposed that kind of thing. she doesn't want to give more fuel to the sanders people. >> let's turn to the republican party and to specifically a wild and womanly donald trump part of the republican party. he continues to make waves and double down on offensive comments. the latest news coming out that the rnc chairman called him and

asked him to tone it down this according to the "washington post." john mccain was on with andrea mitchel today and was asked about donald trump. let's take a listen to what he had to say. >> he's entitled to say what he wants to say. i guarantee you the overwhelming majority and i've had the honor of representing the people of arizona for many years, i guarantee the overwhelming majority do not agree with his attitude towards -- that he has displayed towards our hispanic citizens. >> how much of a lasting impression on the elect rat and particularly on latinos is donald trump going to make? >> i'm skeptical that he has a lasting impact. if we mustang a year from now and the republican nominee is jeb bush or marco rubio i think the odds of one of them being the nominee are fairly high i

think that it's hard to believe he has the same opinion that donald trump does. so i think as long as you have a candidate who disaligns themselves from donald trump. if you had -- like at the scene cruise has been defending donald trump's remarks. but if you have a candidate who has taken a different stance on these issues particularly bush because of his marriage and rubio because of who he is. >> one thing is for sure, it will make the debates very colorful. >> it will be fun. >> thank you so much. and msnbc will of course have live coverage of south carolina governor nikki haley's bill signing at the top of the hour. that's going to be on now with alex wagner. we're also watching developments today out of vienna. that's where secretary of state john kerry is working with five other nations towards a potential nuclear deal with iran. kerry says that the u.s. will

not rush or be rushed. he added that negotiators also won't sit at the table forever but refused to say exactly how long he does plan to stay. 24 hours ago we brought you breaking news as the new york stock exchange rebooted. what do we know today about exactly what happened and whether it could happen again. plus the u.s. not the only one experiencing market troubles. but a simple reset is not going to be enough for china. why that matters big time here. and later, the riveting new doc on amy winehouse getting lots of buzz. her friend and first manager joins us right here to talk about her meteor ik rise and tragic fall. the cycle rolls on for thursday, july 9th.

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the trading floor in the new york stock exchange is bustling once again this afternoon. and it was normal at the nation's airport. i'll leave it up to you to decide good or bad thing. but the point is that these tech glitches which crippled two major american industries on wednesday have been fixed. but is it just a band-aid on a much larger problem? let's bring in the staff writer for wired who's been all over the subject since the story broke yesterday. >> hi. >> so yesterday, the wall street journal was one of the companies who had tech issues. how -- first of all, what

severalry is this? second of all, if they are inevitable how can we tolerate that at a time when we fly and how we trade stocks on a major exchange is so technology dependent? >> the thing you'd like to see is more oversight in this area. the good news is we are starting to see some of that. the sec has passed some regulation in service of mitigating some of these meltdowns. that would require that these exchanges report any substantial technologyical changes every quarter. it's a huge problem here because the exchange shouldn't have been down for four hours for a small technical glitch. >> it seems people get more freaked out about this partly because we don't understand it as well. a lot of products don't work 100% of the time. a lot of people at home have toilets. sometimes your toilet doesn't work. it's a problem and it's a

problem you want to fix and you don't want it not to work for hours or days on end, but you don't have that same panic that we see in the tech area. how do people differentiate between a glitch that's acceptable that's part of something that still works versus a real problem? >> i think the fear really comes from not knowing whether or not this is cybersecurity issue or just an issue like we have when our toilets aren't working. >> i love how you integrated that. a-plus for you! >> you've had problems with your phone. you've had problems with the platforms you work on at work and you're used to that. we don't expect a huge institution like the new york stock exchange is going to have those same problems. guess what they do. >> thanks a lot. we have to stay up at night worrying about terrorists hacking my toilet. >> they could hack the sewers. >> that is real. >> that's real. >> one thing i was thinking about -- so my first job out of

college was on a health desk. any time anyone called with any problem, we always assumed they were doing something wrong, it was human error. and usually we were right. yesterday, the stock exchange crashing was compared somewhat to the flash crash back in 2010 which we now know was due partially to human bad behavior. how often is it an actual technical glitch and how much is it people screwing up? >> with the flash crash, we had as you said bad behavior but that was also exacerbated by the fact that we have technology doing this high speed trading. so i think it's never one or the other. it's always both. even if this was just a technical glitch, it's also a problem of human oversight. if we do one software upgrade, is it going to be compatible. that is something that shouldn't be an after thought. >> there was a lot of emotion going on yesterday. airy ari was running around with his

hair on fire. steven colbert had a measured response. >> we're so fragile. we didn't know that as we built our internet and our sfartphones and put that extra fridge in the garage they weren't strengthening us they were weakening us. now the iron spires of our cities will be the markers of our graves. >> is there any chance that in some way colbert is right and we're all too reliant on the machines? >> everybody worries about overreliance. it's not even worth wondering about that because there's no going back now. >> don't worry about it because we can't change it. >> what we can do is use that technology to build systems that will cover us in the event that the first system goes down. >> so redundancy to protect the computers going down. i mean the guest yesterday said the same thing. i keep wondering wouldn't that then just make sure that the problem will eventually happen.

>> sure of course. but you have to trust that one of these systems is going to pull through. we have the redundancies in our bridges and every other type of infrastructure. >> i don't want to be a let eye, but computers to protect us from the computers seems to me like eventually something will break down. >> i thought he was going to end on an optimism. up next bailout standoff. germany's former economic minister joins "the cycle" to tell us where greece germany and the entire eurozone from here. that sound you hear? the clock is ticking. sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. you handle life; clorox handles the germs. ♪ to steady betty. to steady betty. fire it up! ♪ am i the only one with a meeting?

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the big story developing right now, the white house putting its weight behind a bailout deal between greece and the european union. they have until sunday to accept the terms of the bailout. greek voters overwhelmingly

decided they don't necessarily need to stay in the eu. angela merkel is fatsing a critical choice. do what it takes to keep greece or accepted them packing and risk the stability many people feel of the eu itself. our next guest compares this decision to choosing between the plague and cholera and he knows of what he speaks. he's germany's former economic minister. how do you do? >> very well, thank you. although it's a messy time. >> i want to talk a little bit about the morality tale here. if you could give us your view over whether we're getting this right. a lot of people have talked about this as if greece and the greek people in government are largely to blame and that's part of the story line we've heard. any time you have outside funding, bonds, loans et cetera that at the end of the day is a transaction. if folks give too much with too much risk then they may have to pay for it.

>> we are in a blame game here. and it's of course not that easy. there are many factors. greek governments regardless they were in the center on the far left or other things they just didn't deliver what they promised to deliver. that's one thing. the other thing is expectations from the european union and the eurozone which were not fullfulble. and then we brought in money and money and money and money again by telling the people in other eurozone member states we'll be paid back at a certain point. a big illusion actually. it won't be paid back. in my opinion, it's lost money. and we have to come from there. if we start the blame game, we won't come to any conclusion than just kicking the can down the road for the next years to come. we don't even have any progress. but this is where we are right now. >> i wanted to get your thoughts on the german mentality. germany does hold a lot of the

cards here. and they've been very resistant to writing down any of the greek debt. the imf has said it has to happen. greece cannot pay back the debts that they owe. they gave the germans a little bit of a history lesson a reminder of how their debt was forgiven by much of the world post world war ii, when i hear the germans say they maintain a moral stance about debt i think what a huge joke. germany is the country that has never repaid its debts. it has no standing to lecture other nations. of course he does it in a french accent, which sounds a lot better. that's beside the point. >> in the frempbl accent. >> it's always a pleasure to be lectured by the french. >> help us understand though this mentality. >> he has a point. to be clear, he has a point. that's one of the things we need to discuss in germany as well. yes, we have been helped out in

a tremendous and huge way. specifically by the u.s. but at the same time germany took a hard hard hard way to go into reforms as well, to stabilize itself, not to betray on people and its neighbors and others and not to join a club just for the sake of cherry picking at the end of the day. asking for money, but not delivering at the same time is something different than right now to say, we have to restructure. yes, we do have to do that. we have to come to a conclusion that we need some kind of restructuring of the debt because the money won't come back. >> why not let greece go? why not let them kick -- be kicked out of the euro? >> first point, you cannot kick them out. this is easily forgotten over here. there is not a mechanism in the eurozone where you can easily kick someone out. >> okay. >> so you can only kind of create pressure that leads to a

situation that they decided to leave the eurozone. point one. second point is well, this is what i say when the chancellor has a choice between the plague and comeholera. if you let them go others may follow. second thing, you may drive them into the hands of the russians. you may cause a situation that they may even rethink their eu membership rethink their nato membership. i think they will stay in the european union even if they leave the eurozone. and the dependents toward russia is somehow limited. so gee yow political issues count, but they are not everything. if you keep them in you are in a situation that you could be easily blackmailed by others who say, well, they have stretched their rules and all the other things on which the whole thing is based for the last decade now. again and again and again and again. and if we do the same, maybe

italy at one point or portugal or spain or others we'll be just fine in the same situation. >> now i want to talk about markets worldwide. mention china, its stock market down double digits. some people think it's a largely domestic concern. but i can't help but wonder from your position what you think of that situation and whether it really is in some way interdependent with what we're seeing in europe right now. >> markets are interdependent gloel globally. but that's one thing. the other thing is of course in europe right now the chinese development is more or less a footnote. because we are contracted. over here it's a big story. it's 90 million chinese engaged in the chinese stock market. it's not the big thing from outside investors. but it can have a component following up from there which will impact our geopolitical

thinking as well. what does it mean that the chinese have somehow stabled again, stabled the market. what does it mean for already quite promising steps they made towards opening the financial markets in china. what does it mean for further steps to a market economy we're still waiting for. i have the impression right now that this whole thing could lead to a situation where china is a bit more stuck and focused on itself again. will make it much harder to find conclusions we need transpacific transpacificly. >> thank you for your perspective. >> we also have an exciting announcement right now. world leaders change makers and real music super stars once again converging on central park for the global citizen festival. it's a free concert in central part and it's part f on the campaign to do something really important, to try to end extreme poverty by 2030. for the second year in a row

the concert will be broadcast live right here on msnbc. the lineup includes beyonce pearl jam, ed sheeran and cold play. this morning, chris martin talked about what can be achieved. >> what would be your dream in 15 years from now if everything goes to plan? >> well, i mean on a very pure level it would be that we wouldn't have to bang on about these things. that just -- if you look at my kids or young people they're much more conscientious than i remember being or much more global in their thought process. i think it will keep going that way. if you have beyonce showing up and saying she cares about girls education, then all the beyonce fans start thinking what is she talking about. >> the idea is that we can do this together. to learn more on how you can earn your tickets by doing good please go to globalcitizen.org.

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as we reported earlier, it is back to business as usual at the stock market and at airports this afternoon with yesterday's tech glitches seemingly all sorted out. at least for the moment. but business as usual isn't good news for the millions of americans who have lost their jobs as we've become more reliant on machines over the past several decades. since 2000 the manufacturing sector has lost nearly 5 million jobs. the worst part is that many of those jobs are never coming back. a new atlantic cover story puts a human face on that economic trend. friend of the show and atlantic center editor derek thompson went to youngstown -- they forgot to put your name in there. derek, i was just mentioning to you, i used to live right outside of youngstown. so i know that area really well.

i know the daef station its faced economically and the spirit of the people. you wrote in your piece that indust try yous ps has served as america's unofficial religion since it's founding. what have they discovered in youngstown life looks like after the jobs leave? >> great question. youngstown in the middle of the century was one of the richest cities in america. it had one of the highest house ownership rates in the country. it was like the san francisco of the mid-century. in the 1970s, the steel industry collapsed. it went away from youngstown entirely. it's really really struggled to replace that. what i thought was really interesting, yes there's a lot of poverty and sadness. the central pillar of work has disappeared with steel and it's been replaced by a lot of people sort of piecing together part-time jobs. one way this was explained to me is, if you go to a party and

somebody says what do you do, i work in marketing, i work for the atlantic it's that one thing. in youngstown it's five things. i'm a bartender and i'm a poet and i play in a band. the sense of pride comes from your resourcefulness. that was an unexpected silver lining. >> you talk about people who you call or they call post work who believe in this society where we don't judge ourselves based onnen what we do. you're not noeltly on their program. you write, it's hard to imagine that lee sure could ever entirely fill the vacuum of accomplishment. most people need to achieve things through work to feel a lasting sense of purpose to envision a future that offers more than minute-to-minute satisfaction. millions of people might find meaningful work.

in this future where machines and robots are taking the jobs what are we going to do? >> this is a great question. they are extremely thoughtful on this point. here's how i think about it. there's sort of three futures i imagine. the third of which in the piece is youngstown. contingency or part-time work. the second though offers a slightly more optimistic vision. i went to columbus where they have this makers space. i talked to this harvard economist and i said, what do you think he going to happen. he said, i think the pendulum is going to swing back to the 19th century. it was writers, it was silversmiths and people doing stuff with their hands. the first wave of the industrial revolution wiped them out. in a world where we're swimming in a technological abundance, the irony is that the pendulum

which has swung from at toms will bring back. we can find creative things we can do with our time. >> i want to push on that idea for a minute. when i read about the idea foundry, i thought, oh thank god, i can finally do the job i dreamed of which is a combination of churning ice cream and knitting blankets and somehow not starve -- oh wait a minute. i would totally starve to death. in that future i think my undergraduate degree would need to be how to use or pronounce the word lathe. anyway is this a serious prescription for an economic recovery for people who are not employed? >> the central policy that is necessary for these visions to work is something that economists call a universal basic income. the idea of social security for everybody, everybody gets a check from the government every single month. in fact this was an idea that

was originally proposed by president richard nixon, a variation of it was proposed by milton freedman. it's the idea that if you have enough money in the system in the entire economy and the problem is redistribution. >> how would we afford that? >> we already have a certain conversation variation of it already. in a world where we're significantly richer because of productivity, you would tax a certain number of people at the top. you would tax them more redistribute the money to other people. as a result, even though this sounds like a liberal idea, the idea is it would in fact do more to preserve the conservative idea so that we don't have starvation revolution all the terrible things you see. >> because the problem obviously, if you play this out

to its conclusion and you have the robots doing all the work and a few people that just own the robots and make tons of money, that economy obviously doesn't work. >> no. >> because you no longer have consumers. you have to have some sort of mechanism. but the political problem is the people who are working i don't want to give all my money to these lacy ducks that just want to sit on their bums. >> i already got that problem. >> i want to tell you two different points. even though the piece is called a world without work i don't think we're anywhere close to literally a world without work a world without jobs. much of this piece is looking at the transition of a period of technology is replacing full-time jobs more people have an expectation to work full time than actually can. but your point radio right there, this is a political problem. right now, we have money distributed around the economy through the market. workers are consumers and consumers are workers.

you work for money and you spend it. in this vision they have to rely on the government to get a paycheck. that is a really really different future. a very very different political future. and much of the piece is trying to think about is it even feasible. then you literally have the makers of the economy and the takers everybody else. i think the government will have an interest in making sure that everybody is still tied together in some sort of activity force, even if it isn't a full-time labor force as it currently exists so that people can see we're still sort of all in this together and it's not the few working for the many who are idle. >> you talk about this as the future. in some ways we're already seeing this. while there may be enough jobs or we're hoping we'll get to that there are not enough good jobs to go around. thank you so much. it's a really important read. >> thank you very much. and up next behind the tabloid headlines and grammy

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>> i got chills. that fantastic 16-year-old singer is a young amy winehouse who just about half a decade later would release a song that changed her life. ♪ trying to make me go to rehab ♪ >> when rehab came out, it was taken as a funny anti-pc, somewhat ironic song. after a little while it became clear that amy had serious talent and a serious addiction problem and that made the song sound a lot less funny and more like someone dancing on their own grave. about half a decade after, amy was dead at just 27 years young. the professional rise and fall of the great singer is told in a powerful new doc called "amy." nick was amy's friend and first manager and he joins us now. nick you know, the -- the

vision that i get from this film of her life is that she has this awesome talent to create songs, not just the singing, but also the writing. she creates all this wealth and fame but she's got two men in her life who are not supporting her, who are not helping her through the drug addiction, her father and her husband, blake. and now her father says that he's portrayed unfairly in this piece and takes great umbrage with the way that he looks in this. what do you think about that idea that -- that she had these men not helping her when she had a serious addiction problem? >> i think it's very very complicated. i think that you know what's powerful about this documentary is that it doesn't really pass too much judgment. it just shows you, you know a lot of different relationships, a very sad story, very talented artist. she loved her dad. her dad loved her. looks like she loved blake.

i don't know who loved who, but i think there were bad judgments along the way from a lot of different people. but what's so -- so tasteful about the way the documentary is pulled together it's about amy. it's about her brilliance. it doesn't seem to be throwing you know throwing arguments here there everywhere. it kind of keeps the focus on her. we can't talk for amy. she's not here to say how she feels. i think the director did a great job staying close to amy in the film and making you really understand who she was. you can't avoid the darkness that came with that story. >> one of the things i think the filmmakers do so brilliantly is sort of reveal to us how talented she was. we're going to show a short clip that shows that straight away.

♪ ♪ i died a hundred times ♪ ♪ you go back to her and i go back >> you know putting the lyrics on screen is a brilliant way of showing people how amy could write as well as giving us a chance to listen to her beautiful voice. when did you become aware of her genius as a songwriter. >> the first time i ever realized amy could write. when i first met her she told me she didn't write songs. i think it was her defense mechanism, they're so personal she didn't want to show me straight away. she showed them to me on paper, i thought they were very poetic and reading them i couldn't believe how smart they are, they have double meaning. a lot of her lyrics are saying something quite deep and funny at the same time depending on how you choose to interpret it.

very much what her personality was like as well. >> nick, she seemed to have a level of self-awareness about the darker parts of her life and personality. let's take a look at a little bit more of the documentary. >> a little messed up music. depression depression. i feel better. >> there were clearly warning signs with amy, you knew her since she was 16 years old. were you surprised when she died? >> i was completely shocked when she died. i was devastated. she died on my wedding weekend. she was due at my wedding. i can't imagine, you know what an impact that made. interesting, the clip you showed, you know there's lots

about amy, the time i didn't even know. i learned from the film that she was taking an anti-depressant at 14 years old. i didn't know she was bulimic. i knew that after managing her, but at the time -- i met her when she was 16 i was 19 you look back you reanalyze things and see things that maybe look obvious from where we are today. the time it didn't jump out, it wasn't as obvious. >> she was an extraordinary singer, an extraordinary writer. hopefully folks will remember the music and not the addiction problem that she had. thank you so much. it's an extraordinary film. next my takeaway from another film i loved and according to the box office a lot of other people love it too. to steady betty.

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has anyone seen the film meteor? >> discussed. >> make sure riley stands out today. >> the other kids will look at their own outfits and -- >> joy, you'll be in charge of the console. >> may i add i love your dress, it's adorable. >> this old thing? thank you so much. >> the best movie of the year so far is inside out. the story of a girl and her emotions are discussed. fear and anger. >> if you don't eat your dinner you're not going to get any dessert. >> did he just say we couldn't

have zee certificate? >> that's anger. that's how you want to play it old man? oh sure we'll eat our dinner right after you eat this. [ screaming ] >> here comes an airplane. >> oh, airplane we got an airplane everybody. >> watch inside out with my daughter on my lap, i wonder what a psychologist would say about this movie? after we left i discovered the psychology community loves inside out. what's really powerful about the film is how accurate it is to cognitive developmental and psychology. she will be assigning it to her doctoral students. it's accurate because psychologists and psychologists were involved in making the film, they did not want a film that scientists go to and roll their eyes at.

he felt it's too close to fear but a little creative license, think about what other emotions should be up there with the big five. anthony lane and the new yorker imagines reason as a french bald wearing -- >> i think anxiety should be up in there. lena dunham voice, her, had a we call ego, pride, what should be there on her thrown. a green monster voiced by amy schumer what about desire in a sharp red suit voiced by prince. in modern america, we are practically at war with sadness. joy tries to segregate sadness. >> perfect. this is the circle of sadness. your job is to make sure all the sadness stays inside of it. >> now, in a way we all do this.

we all try to run from sadness by ignoring it turning to pills, drugs, alcohol, coffee yoga materialism. we all turn to all sorts of things to escape sadness. sadness is important, when we see someone feeling sad, we are triggered to feel sad ourselves. that makes us want to alleviate their sadness. showing sadness helps draw others in to help you deal with loss. we need to embrace sadness to get back to being ourselves. when the dog bites, when the bee stings, when you're feeling sad, don't simply remember your favorite things to push it away embrace you where sadness in order to be completely emotionally healthy. that does it for the cycle. have a great day, a little sadness with alex wagner starts right now. any moment now, south carolina governor nickikki haley is expected to sign legislation that will remove the confederate battle flag from the south carolina state house grounds.

with the governor's signature, the bill will officially become state law. this comes just hours after the state's house of representatives in a highly charged marathon session that lasted into the early morning, they voted 94-20 to bring down the flag. >> i grew up with that flag yes, to the national media, as a heritage. it was the stories told me by my family growing up. >> i'm sorry, i have heard enough about heritage. i have a heritage i am a lifelong south carolina an i am a decendent of jefferson davis, okay? but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horn. it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds.