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good afternoon. i'm toure. as we come on the air, night as fallen on another day of talks with iran but is it lights out for a deal? here's the white house this afternoon. >> there continue to be significant issues that remain. and the president will not sign on to an agreement and this is the attitude that's taken by the partners, too. they won't sign on to an agreement until all of our concerns have been addressed. and as long as they continue to make progress in doing that then the talks will continue. >> three hours remain until the clock strikes midnight in vienna. another deadline passes without a deal. major sticking points remain. iran's demand that the u.n. lift an arms embargo. that demand angered many on the american side of the table. then disagreement about the country's future nuclear research and whether its
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transgressions should be forgiven. ali arusia covers iran for us. when's the hold-up? >> reporter: one of the major sticking points at the u.n. arms embargo and ballistic missile program and wider embargo programs and export and import of weapons. as you mentioned, the united nations are not happy with that. they think iranians will be able to fuel the flames of conflict further in the region whereas the russians and the chinese are backing iran on that. they want the embargo lifted for financial reasons to embark on lucrative arms deals with iran but i don't think this is going to break up the talks. iranians indicated earlier they would be willing to push that issue further down the road at a mutually acceptable date to both sides to get the deal done and doesn't appear they've agreed on that. ministers in vienna locked in
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meetings. they have sessions later to see if they can resolve this. and other issues also the language of any text to come out which is also critical to this. they don't want to put a comma in the wrong place because this is a legally binding document and once they sign it both sides are bound by this document regardless of what hardliners in iran think or congress in america thinks. but despite all of these ups and downs -- have brought the two sides within inches of the finishing line and it would be unimaginable to think they have come this far and not able to seal the deal. president rowhani spoke -- saying that he delivered on his campaign promise. he sold the nuclear issue. and even if it failed in these last few steps, he had delivered on his duty.
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so he's being cautious but he too, thinks the deal will be made. the iranians authorities said to expect a statement from him this evening and expecting the deal today and colleagues in vienna are telling us that tomorrow may be a likely day for the dead lines seem to be coming and going. doesn't seem to be too important to them. when's really important is getting a deal good for the west good for america and good for iran. so they don't want to be rushed into anything and i think all sides agree on that point. toure? >> all right. ali, thank you for that update. let's dig deeper with former state department official and u.s. hostage negotiator, hillary man-leverage. what's the impact on the room with delay after delay? the world is watching. the pressure is mounting. how does that impact the business at hand when they have been sitting there through multiple deadlines, long negotiating sessions and impacting them? >> you know there are some
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delegates, some whom i worked with assigned to the united nations for the u.s. state department like russian foreign minister lavrov. he was the russian ambassador to the u.n. when i was there. he doesn't bother to come. he cannot stand to be in the negotiations for the long term. his arrival back at the talks last night was a significant indicator to many parties that the deal was very close at hand because he just doesn't -- he can't stand sitting in the room. the same thing for the chinese foreign minister. he's been out of town for most of the time. and is just come back. for some of these representatives they're not showing up until they think the deal is almost done which is the good side sign here. for the united states we are the superpower so for the united states to spend so much time i think it's now 16 or 17 days straight, when we have a lot of other business around the world, that's a big hit for us. for iran it is not quite as significant. they're a middle power. they don't have as much to do.
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they have a lot more time on their side. >> hillary, this is 18 days now and to put this in perspective, you cannot say that yon kerry did not put time and effort into this deal. he went over there on june 26th. he's still in vienna. this is the longest mission a secretary of state has spent abroad since the early 1960s. just to put that in perspective. obviously, the last thing he wants to do is come back to the united states without a deal done. this is something that will make history, but also this is a huge thing and knowing how important it is to him and the administration and then give iran an upper hand in these negotiations knowing how important it is for the u.s.? >> you know i've negotiated with iranians since when i was in the u.s. government since 2001. and part of those negotiations was the then much more junior official now current foreign minister of iran zarif and they have had a long-term plan and
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following it they know what they want and they're patient. they have more time on their side. but it is clear that john kerry wants a deal and i think at this point deserves a deal. you have to think of him and his background. if he doesn't get a deal it is on his tombstone he failed to become president in 2004. this really gives him not just, you know, not just a good deed in the cap but the potential for a nobel peace prize and really historic recognition. >> you have been supportive generally of the outline of the framework that was offered earlier. what are the sort of sticking points? what are the things to cause you to walk away from this deal? >> you know, that's a really hard one because for me this is really strategic. it's the devil to me not in the details because from the opponents of a deal any negotiated deal with the islamic republic of iran which essentially accepts the islamic
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republic of iran and here to stay and interests accommodated rather than fought that's their problem. the details are not quite as important. what's important is this strategic realignment. just as the united states was able to accept the people's republic of china in the 1970s, we department get a single thing from china when nixon and kissinger went to china except it got the united states off the trajectory of never-ending war and military intervention in asia. out of the strategic quagmire of vietnam. that's the potential we have here. if the administration thinks they need to do it with 100-page document with lots of details and 50 annexes, so be it. but i don't think there's any one particular deal to make this a strategic problem. it's a win fall for the united states. >> hillary, we have heard a lot of warnings of the risks of a deal. what do you see as the risks of a breakdown and lack of a deal? >> i think the risks are pretty minimal. we have seen i think the
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constituencyies here in the united states have the most at stake, putting thome in the pro-saudi, pro-israeli camp. prime minister netanyahu just this morning saying that the deal is not only bad for israel we that iran could take over the world he tweeted this morning. the administration kept on going. i think they have their eyes on the prize, a strategic win fall for the united states. we get to recalibrate our raelgts relations in the middle east fundamentally. >> if we had to give in on this u.n. arms embargo to get it done would that be worth it to you? >> frankly, i think there's probably a significant compromise made on that issue. and that's what i'm hearing from vienna. iran does not import a lot of weapons. from the 1979 revolution they made it their absolute priority to be self sufficient in weapons production.
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they produce all their stuff. the issue for them is they now export weapons to militias in iraq fighting isis. they expart them to the assad government in syria to fight isis and don't want called in violation of an agreement to do that and important for the united states that we don't get ourselves into that trap and i think there's already been a promise made only it. >> all right. hillary, thank you so much for your insight. >> thank you. >> we'll, of course keep on top of this important story and bring you developments as soon as we get them. cycling now, walker is running. wisconsin's governor entered the race. how's he going to put distance between himself and the ginormous gop pack? on the run, killer drug kingpin el chapo busted out of a prison with a secret pipeline. a home run for money in politics. how lawmakers are looking to
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the republican 2016 field is almost complete. i thought i would never get to actually say that. wisconsin governor scott walker makes his presidential bid official tonight in front of the cameras at an event in milwaukee. and walker's political career there winning a special election for state assembly at 25 years old. he tweeted this morning confirming to followers that he
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is, in fact all in. walker erer becomes the 15th gop candidate and earned the conservative cred dismantling unions in wisconsin leading to a recall election and walker won another term governing the largely blue mid western state. the spotlight all on donald trump and walker's team is confident that he can shift that narrative. >> america needs new, fresh leadership. big, bold ideas from outside of washington. actually get things done. wisconsin, we didn't nibble around the edges. we enacted big, bold reforms, took power out of the big government special interests. now, we need to do the same thing for america. it's not too late. we can make our country great again. >> so what are scott walker's
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prospects here in the 2016 campaign? let's take it to the table, and, you know, he's one who has this great sort of trajectory. you look at it. governor of mid western blue state. won the recall election. was a darling and acceptable to the establishment. the question "the new york times" is asking is if he can overcome the gaps early on. they're reporting that he went back and boning up on foreign policy to try to be able to prove that he has the chops to be seen as a credible presidential candidate. >> yeah. we have seen that he's doing very well in the state of iowa and not just gaffes. can he appeal more broadly than just a state like iowa? he is a fighter he says. i think positioning himself as the conservative alternative to jeb bush. he's hoping that ultimately comes down to the two of them. he has something to speak for. you were hitting on this.
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he has won three elections in four years, one of them being a recall election. he can say i went up against the liberal machine, something as controversial as unions and came out on top of that fight. he won a recall election something he can speak to. but, you know the best way to get a sense of how someone leads is looking at the past and what they have done previously an i'm reading about what e's done in the state of wisconsin and how people feel about him being governor. this could potentially be a problem. 53% say that they think the state is on the wrong track which is -- it was 44% less than a year ago. and 52% when it comes to the economy say the state is lagging behind with job creation an up from 42%, less than a year ago. i don't know what happened between october and now but he's got some explaining to do in terms of why are people not totally satisfyied in the state you have been running and bringing up a good point,
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krystal and the bench at 15 not a lot of them have a lot of foreign policy experience. he's one of them. that's a huge issue. he has to speak a to at love those things ari. >> and other things like finishing college and i think it's really interesting to your point. you put it diplomatically. the problems and the sophistication. he is highly undereducated for associated with the president and, you know mark twain said never let school get in the way of your education. there are plenty of ways to be worldly and wise. but the combination of that and some of the things he said i mean, when asked about most important foreign policy moves of the past several decades, he said, ronald reagan breaking the air traffic controller strike and conservatives who might agree with that as an outcome like that sounds really silly. and yet what's funny about that is politically a hard attack to make. we can talk about why you might want a president to be very
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sophisticated, educated and thoughtful about the world but in politics you cannot run on a phd. >> we have seen many folks get the nomination and even get the presidency without being sophisticated, worldly and so that can happen. >> yeah. that's what i'm saying. >> scott walker is a top tier candidate with bush rubio and perhaps rand paul and he could go quite far in this thing. i want to bring in perry and dana. hillary had an economic speech this morning. perry, let me start with you. hillary had a nice interesting little slap at jeb bush's comment of american workers are not working long enough hours. >> let him tell that to the nurse standing on her feet all day or the teacher who is in that classroom or the trucker who drives all night. let him tell that to the fast food workers marching in the
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streets for better pay. they don't need a lecture. they need a raise. >> perry, hillary outlined a plan that includes raising the median income boosting women's pay, raising the federal minimum wage and changing the tax policies that favor the rich. it sounds all very progressive which fits someone who has joseph stiglitz as an economic adviser. what do you think about this outline? >> toure, i was surprised. there wasn't a lot of detail and there wasn't a lot i haven't heard. watching the rise of bernie sanders, i thought she would address issues like social security more or big banks and reining them in more. bernie sanders talked about tuition-free college. we have seen the big crowds for sanders, her speech was vague, i thought. it showed the contrast of
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democrats and republicans and jeb bush is big, everything he says about 4% growth and hilary's response is growth is nice but for the right people and meaning wage growth for every day americans is the real issue, not whether the economy overall and the gdp grows. so you saw a big contrast and criticized walker rubio and bush by name. so she told you who she thinks the front-runners are herself, at least. >> we were talking about walker before you joined us and the questions to answer maybe some of the potential challenges to face in this race. ari was bringing up the college education, the fact he didn't educate college. i see it totally differently as ari. that's a positive for him, especially running the early primary states saying you know what? i'm like so many people out there. i'm a family guy. i have worked for what i got today. he often talks about wearing a sweater that cost him a dollar. and makes him sort of relatible
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especially to folks in iowa. do you see that as something that could be a problem for him? >> i don't think that's what scott walker's problem is going to be. n this campaign. far more compelling the problem is the things coming out of his mouth right now talking about comparing union protesters in wisconsin to islamic state or the policies that he's implemented as governor that have, let's face it made the sit something of an economic basket case so that's where his opponents and the primary and should he make it beyond where the democrats trading the fire not on his education level. and, you know certainly, you know running against the leets works well, whatever party you're in. i suspect they don't want to -- nobody wants an elitist argument against scott walker. >> perry, i totally agree with that. i don't think his not finishing college is a problem for voters or in general if you know your policy chops. so far he's not completely
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demonstrated that. another issue that he's had and i think others in the field have and i can't take credit for this theory because steve kornacki floated it this weekend. but donald trump is a real issue not so much for jeb bush in the issue but for all the candidates sucking up so much oxygen. now, trump is obviously going to fade at some point and probably quickly. but will this period where he is taking up all of the oxygen do significant long-term damage to the other candidates the rubios, the walkers, et cetera in the field? >> i don't think it's them. i think trump's getting 10%, some of the polls, 12%, 6% you think about that bloc someone to take the bloc soon and 9 or 10 people competing in iowa for the very conservative vote with trump, with walker. that's the danger for walker is going to be hard to outright
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carson, huckabee and santorum. trump is in his own lane. i think that's the challenge. i don't think what trump says today will make a big difference for walker going forward. i want to add one other thing and agree with ari saying not about the college question but talking to republicans the core question is is scott walker the next rick perry? i think if he had three degrees from harvard like mitt romney did i don't think people would be asking that question. >> dana that's the issue, right? as you said you don't want to run as the candidate of harvard generally. and yet, you also want to be competent and it seems he is having trouble, scott walker introducing himself politically, he leads by some accounts in iowa and doing well on the ground and doesn't seem to have passed the competency test yet. >> right. it's the competence. not the degree.
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officials. escape apparently meant daring prison escapes we only heard about in hollywood blockbusters. the latest mexican kingman joaquin g you zman aka el chapo. over the week he slipped through a ventilated tunnel system that began in his shower and stretched to a construction site more than a mile away. this is not el chapo's first time. he broke out again. and 13 years until the law enforcement with the help of the fbi tracked him down. news on agents there may have been warned months in advance. mark potter filed this afternoon from across the border. >> reporter: we are getting the first look at mexican officials touring the tunnel exit guzman el chapo or shorty used to slip out of the maximum security
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cell, the second escape. last time he alluded police for 13 years before being recaptured a year and a half ago. this morning, mexican police are searching for the drug lord. >> this is like capturing osama bin laden, having him spend a year in prison and walking away from the prison only to reengage in the terrorist activities. >> reporter: the authorities say it probably took months of meticulous planning. guzman last seen on a security camera saturday night entering a shower area. there he slipped into a 20 x 20-inch hole down a ladder into a ventilated tunnel made of wood and pipe with a small motorized rail car and stretched for a mile from a half-built house in a farm field. >> the cost of building this tunnel probably was probably $3 million to $5 million but, you know, that was simple nickel and
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dime to him. >> reporter: mexican president traveling in france said he was profoundly troubled by the escape which is considered a major embarrassment for his government. >> hard to imagine this happening without government officials being involved. the big question mark is how high up does it go? >> reporter: that will be a major question for investigators trying to figure out who's involved in this escape. meantime, u.s. drug agents are furious guzman and wanted throughout the united states is once again free. mark potter nbc news near mexico city. >> unbelievable. mark, thanks so much for that report. they say a third time's a charm. i'm getting people in greece are feeling that way. there's another deal to keep the country come vent. wall street is reacting positively. the dow is at a high for the year right now. but back in greece, the deal is just latest economic body blow
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for taxpayers feeling betrayed and humiliating to surrender more independence to what they consider the bullies of the eu. nbc's keir simmons reports now from athens. >> reporter: abby greece's 11 million people same size as ohio, imagine if ohio faced being pushed out of using the dollar. that's what greece faced in relation to the euro. it isn't a direct comparison, of course, but that gives you a picture of why people were biting their fingernails through the night. 17 hours of negotiating by european leaders. not european officials. the leaders locked in rooms. i'm told that the greek leader and germany's chancellor almost walked out and were forced to stay and negotiate. now we have this deal $100 billion for greece combined with very, very tough reforms. the problem is the greeks just a week ago voted against that kind
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of tough reforms, this kind of austerity which they think is crippling their economy and still some difficult days to come. back the you guys. >> thanks for that report. now to breaking weather news. millions of americans including and some big mid western cities facing severe weather. places like indianapolis, louisville and chicago just to name a few. today's storm comes on the heels of flooding rains, lightning and tornado over the weekend. kait parker is in indianapolis under flash flood through the evening. what can we expect there? >> reporter: pretty surprising looking at this. wait aren't those blue skies behind you? yeah. that's what's we are looking at downtown. a vast improvement when this massive storm system this massive line of thunderstorms that congealed and had these winds along it and out ahead of it in excess of 60 miles per
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hour. plowed through the downtown. we had a severe thunderstorm warning at the time. it was intense. now that intensity made the way further south and starting to get into kentucky. starting to get into louisville right now. this area to the south of me i mean we are talking about 4,000 lightning strikes per 15 minutes which is insane. insane amount of lightning. the winds are going to be intense and we could get brief spin-up tornadoes and focusing on and also looking back up in this region. northern illinois northern indiana, down into indianapolis. through the evening. because we are going to see more thunderstorms form and some of those could be severe. we are talking about the potential of damaging winds, hail extreme lightning and possibly some tornadoes. that is a possibility for us through this evening. it's dleer right now that only means that each and every one of the air particles heating up outside going to add to the instability in the atmosphere. so the later we go the bigger the problems become. so abby i got to tell you, clear skies actually a bad sign
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here in indianapolis. >> boy, good luck with that. thank you so much for that report. and major league baseball is on all-star break and there will be plenty of action on the field tonight at nationals park in d.c. because taylor swift will be performing the first of two show there is and as our friends at the sunlight foundation discovered, it's an opportunity for members of congress to shake it off with some of their closest political donors and a excuse for us to play this. ♪ >> nbc's luke russert is shaking it on capitol hill for us this morning. you are a huge t-swift fan, as am i. tell us about -- >> reporter: we are card carrying members of taylor swift nation and there's bad blood here on capitol hill but they shake off that bad blood. not going to be mean to one
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another. they're, in fact going to come together to go to the swift show and while they're at it raise thousands upon thousands of dollars. that's right, our friends figured out about 15 members of congress who had ten republicans, five democrats as well as three pacs are all having these big fund raising events putting tickets out for $2,000, $1,000 or $4,000 to get their donors in to nats park to watch taylor swift. they get a chunk of change with a great show. we should say that from the members we've spoken to a lot of ticket sales went to well heeled parents who wanted to bring kids along, so instruct them about partisan politics and a little bit about taylor swift and a lot of members turned on to taylor swift by the music of their kids. that's what we have heard. looking at the breakdown, more republicans are going to taylor swift. three members from tennessee as we know. she is nashville's own now. but you have a lot of democrats saying they like her feminist
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lyrics and girl power spirit. a lot of republicans say that she's got this great down home country all-american girl persona. something for everybody to love on capitol hill regarding taylor swift. i will be there. can't wait. >> i want to hear how much you scream. >> my kids want to go. i'm going to support them. >> raising more money. >> take care. >> thank you. hey, luke do you want to move to mars any time soon? >> i think about moving to mars tear drops on my guitar abby. >> well played. apparently there's a plan for moving to mars. we'll cycle on after this.
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interstellar. >> what? >> what i do mean? a book looks at what it would take to live and work on mars. and this is a planet with fairly inhospitable temperatures. yet author steven patronic writes a martian boom is heading our way. welcome. >> thank you. >> you predict that people will be on mars as soon as 20 years. what is the benefit of that to human kind? >> it will preserve the human species. we all die. every single one of us. eventually. any human on earth eventually dies when the sun starts to expand in a couple of billion years. that sounds like a long time away and it is. eventually the sun will either throw earth out of the orbit killing everybody or expand and encompass the earth and fry. >> this is quite scary, sir.
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i'm very uncomfortable. >> you could wake up tomorrow and see a headline discoverers asteroid ten miles wide headed on collision course with earth. there's 100% probability that a large asteroid hits earth sometime in our future. we are not that knowledgeable about what happens out in the not only in the asteroid belt and far beyond the asteroid belt an humans face a lot of challenges for survival. we're not taking very good care of our planet. global warming is a problem. if you had just india and pakistan go to war against each other, they each have 100 independently targetible missiles. >> i want to move from the scientifically clad bummers to the point of the book which is you can say -- >> is that a technical term? >> we can escape that going to mars. >> we have to become an
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interplanetary specyiesspecies. the first step is mars. smars the most hospitable other place in our own solar system. >> so tell us how we would survive on mars because you talk about a tool kit we need five things to survive. water, shelter, food clothing and oxygen. which apparently the solutions for all those things exist. we have to change our way of thinking. they don't have internet there, food delivery services. >> a lot of things on mars. >> how will i get movies? >> really freaky thing is it takes 20 minutes for your voice signal to get back to earth. so you can't have a conversation with anybody back on earth. you have to like do it my e-mail. >> choose who you go over there with. >> it's all one way. everybody going is one way. >> well -- >> it's possible to get back but i don't think anybody's coming back. >> what are the solutions for those issues hoe? being able to breathe and dealing with the temperature. >> nasa worked out most of these things long time ago. what nasa hasn't worked out is a
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good rocket to get there. they gave up the ability to make great rockets stopping the moon program and we have, in fact launching an awful lot of stuff in space on russian rocket engines and two countries in the world to get people in space. china and russia. they're the only ones. we can't get people into space. >> i imagine e landlon musk will take care of that. we have to go to mars because of the bummers you laid out. how will we thrive on mars? you say people will go to mars for the same reason the spaniards went to the new world, to get rich. how will folks get rich get money dealing with mars? >> civilization on mars just like a civilization on earth. there will be pizza shops and iron foundry. there will be people who make cars or the equivalent of cars. there will be people who, you know provide all kinds of services.
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and all kinds of manufacturing. it will be its own economy. and if you look back in history on earth, whenever there's a new outpost like in the americas, for example, when the europeans invaded, you find that salaryies in the outposts are higher than they are in the old world. there's more demand for people and there's more demand for services. also there's -- there may be fantastic mineral wealth not only on mars but reachable from mars in the asteroid belt much closer. >> so we could take this show ari, to mars then maybe we could do even better. >> it is a thought. it's far out. you can be the first ones. >> wow. >> somebody's got to be first. >> ari, why don't you explore that possibility for us? >> you want know go first? >> mars office politics mixed aston my there. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. next we have a star of a whole different sort. you may not know her face but she is behind one of the best
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so how was the first day of school? >> she is probing us. >> i'm done. you pretend to be joy. >> it was fine i guess. i don't know. >> oh. very smooth. that was just like joy. >> "inside out" is the most intellectual stimulating and delightful and sweet movie of
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the year so far. it's story of riley anderson trying to deal with moving to san francisco from minnesota and the emotions in the mind shaping her world view and situation. riley is voiced by caitlyn dose who diaz. caitlyn joins us now from san francisco in the guest spot. welcome, caitlyn. >> hello. >> so tell us who riley is and how you used your voice to create her. >> she's just your average 11-year-old girl who absolutely loves hockey of course and things aren't exactly going smoothly in her life. and, i can definitely relate to her so it was easy to bring her to life i guess you could say. >> there were some really big names in the film. amy poehler, lewis black and you are in the movie, as well. talk to us about how you got the
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role. >> well, when i originally auditioned, it was just for the stud joe call a scratch voice, the voice to present the idea of the movie and they liked me so much they kept me for the full movie. >> i saw the movie over the weekend with my family. and i have to tell you, my husband and i we have a little girl, she's 7 years old and we saw it with her. and my husband and i were probably crying the entire movie because it is so touching and sweet. making this film did it make you think differently about your own inner mental workings and emotions and the way they shape your life and your reactions? >> idt did. it really gets inside your head. now whenever i'm happy i'm thinking oh joy must be at the controls or when i'm angry at my brother, for instance, i'm like oh, there's anger. >> we have another clip showing the way the character of sadness is treated in the film.
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let's look at that. >> oh sadness. i have a super important just for you. >> really? >> um-hmm. follow me. >> what are you doing? >> and there. perfect. this is the circle of sadness. your job is to make sure that all of the sadness stays inside of it. >> so what we see is the idea of trying to suppress or somehow put sadness into this the circle but butality ultimately the movie evolves from there. and turns out sadness is not just joy's rival but partner. and ability to feel sad is what stirs compassion in ourselves and empathy in ourselves. no growth without loss and no art without longing. how did you channel the different emotional highs and lows of your character. >> well when i had to be sad, or, for instance, cry like reilly does near the end of the movie i was actually literally
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crying and i called upon just this mental thought of my cat may dying, who i loved a lot. so just the thought of her dying was enough to get my in the right head space. >> so you are going to be a junior in a couple of months. how do you think the kids at school are going to respond when they see you walk in and you are one of the stars of a major hollywood picture that almost all of them probably went to see? >> i have no clue to be honest. but i know my friends will be super excited. they have been super supportive the whole time. they are amazing friends. >> thank you. katlynn, best of luck with the future. next with the debate over immigration taking center stage in the 2016 presidential race i'll tell you what a sanctuary city and is what it is not.
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tragic killing of this woman, 32-year-old kathleen stylekathleen styly. san francisco was a so called sanctuary city and that phrase has quickly become a buzz word for the campaign. you will be sure to hear that phrase in the debates. calling for an end to sanctuary cities is the newest end to immigration. what the term means is that
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whenever someone is arrested by local police their info is sent to homeland security. if they are undocumented ice can issue a retainer that you be held after you case is a adjudicated so you can pick up by ice and deported. sanctuary states have lows against ice requests. a 2009 police foundation found local police agencies depend on the cooperation of immigrants legal and illegal. and in solving all sorts of crimes. without assurances that they will not be subject to possibly deportation, many immigrants will not come forward even when haines crimes are committed against them or their families. that report says this is felt most immediately in domestic violence. a survivor who must weigh reporting the crime against the
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potential of deportation is powerless against her abuser. this rationale is exactly what mayor jewelnygiuliani said in 2007. in sanctuary cities undocumented people are able to come out of the shadows a bit. they can report crimes and be part of keeping their community safer. and the courts have repeatedly upheld the concept. holding suspects solely on an order from ice violates the fourth amendment. the detainers are unconstitutional. a person cannot be held without charge just for ice's con convenience. and the skoelocal communities are
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creating work arounds that help them deal with the realities of the living with large immigrant communities. d.c. can kick the can down the road but local governments cannot. a nation with 11 million people living in the shadows cannot wait for d.c. to figure it out. of course all that is is no solis for the family who laid kate to rest last thursday. her father does not want her death to plk politicized. he said that is not going to bring kate back. okay that's it for the cycle. "now" with alex wagner starts right now. >> greece strikes a deal to avert bankruptcy. a nuclear agreement with iran hits last minute snags and hillary clinton slams economics. first is scott walker's big day
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getting trumped? it is monday july 13th and this is "now." >> i'm running for president to fight and win for the american people. ♪ >> scott walker is indeed running for president. >> on some level he's clearly a first tier candidate. >> it is not too late. we can make our country great again. >> walker enters a giant field of 15 candidates that has recently been dominated by donald trump. >> i'm really smart. went to the wharton school of finance. one of the hardest schools to get into. >> a segment of the republican part. >> i'm tied with jeb bush. i said how can i be tied with this guy. he's terrible. he's terrible. >> he is the sun around which all of these other republican candidates are going to be orbiting. >> i think he's hijacked the debate and he's a