here in this county that voted overwhelmingly for scott walker using his favorite turf here are pretty excited about it. >> all right. john nickels, ruth great to have you with us tonight as scott walker is officially in the show. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. >> tonight on "politics nation" scott walker is in but can he out plank the donald? trump's wild weekend is big trouble for the gop as walker tries to grab the spotlight and hillary clinton comes out swinging calling out republicans by name. we'll tell you which ones got hit and which ones didn't. also, president obama making a key move on criminal justice righting wrongs and changing lives. it's the start of something big.

welcome to "politics nation." we're just moments away from wisconsin governor scott walker making it official. he's running for president in 2016. governor walker is the 15th republican candidate to enter the race but he's also thought of a more exclusive club. he's one on the list of republicans that hillary clinton is calling out by name. today she presented her economic agenda and walker and others in the top tier. >> republican governors like scott walker have made their names stomping on workers' rights. take a good look at their plans. senator rubio's would cut taxes for households making around $3

million a year by almost $240,000. you may have heard governor bush say last week that americans just need to work longer hours. well, he must not have bet very many american workers. they don't need a lecture. they need a raise. [ applause ] [ cheers ] >> clinton going directly after the three candidates, thought to have the best shot at winning the gop nomination. right now, those three candidates are struggling to get attention because donald trump slumped up all the energy from the republican base. a new national poll put trump at second place in the gop primary, less than 1% behind jeb bush essentially a dead heat and this weekend huge crowds turned out for his rambling speeches.

>> you know i may make money running for president and the polls just come out and i'm tied with jeb bush. how can i be tied with this guy? he's terrible. i want to the warden school of finance. i'm like a really smart person. >> good to know. but love that side show dominates the gop race. hillary clinton is talking about real issues. >> finding economic challenge of our time is clear. we must raise incomes for hard-working americans so they can afford a middle class life. that will be my mission from the first day i'm president to the last. last. >> that's her mission. the gop's mission to get to

anyone behinds donald trump. msnbc casey honda is live in wisconsin for governor walker's announcement, also with me is former governor chairman msnbc's abby huntsman thank you-all for being here. >> thanks rev. >> my pleasure rev. >> casey, walker is jumping in the race when donald trump most talked about man in the gop. how can he compete for attention? >> well, reverend, i think it starts with this announcement. this is a chance for scott walker to essentially push the reset button and take a step out front here. he came in strong earlier this year, gave a speech in iowa that gave notice but stumbled in the time and i think when you do talk about donald trump, you're right he's sucking up the oxygen on the republican side and that

could continue in the debate on august 6th. i don't think they found a way to keep him off that debate stage. we'll see if that changes in the next couple weeks. that will be the challenge for scott walker and every republican candidate that's standing up there on the stage with trump. how to handle him, how to take him on. whether or not stepping back and away from that or taking him on straight up and whatever candidate can take him up on stage. >> is it rough timing for walker to be jumping while donald trump dominated and taken up a lot of the energy really sucked up all the air in the room right now in the gop primary process. >> sure, it's a difficultd i havefficult time to make the announcement so he gets in the debate on fox. that's number one.

number two, i don't believe rev, that donald trump will be a factor come next february and march in the gop and scott walker -- >> you do not think he'll be a factor come next february? >> i don't. i don't. >> governor, he went to warden. he's a smart guy. i mean who does that? who tells people that? >> as penn grad i'm shaky about that. >> i'm a penn grad too. >> who does that? go ahead, i'm sorry. >> he's a smart guy and you can't under rate him but i think the that he's the, he's making an impact but i don't think unless he turns in a great performance on the 6th by a great performance, sounds presidential more than the angry guy. the angry guy will get him so far. scott walker has a calling card. he can say donald trump wants to be the tough guy and stand up for america, well i did it gop voters. i did it. i stood up to the unions and

took them on and won not only once but twice and three times, i won. >> is the that his strategy, abby to say i'm the guy that's actually done it and done it as a chief executive? is that walker's strategy that would be hard for trump to answer? >> going up against trump thanks really is his only strategy because they are appealing for the same voters in iowa and so far, scott walker is doing well in iowa. donald trump is also doing well but they have similar messages against the government problem is donald trump says it in a way with passion and energy and says some things that folks on the far right think but don't necessarily always say and he's out there doing it. so i think that's his only strategy in that sense but look scott walker as the governor was saying has someone to speak to. he can say i'm a fighter and won three races in the past four years, one being a recall election against unions. i fought against the elite liberal media and i came out on top of that. he could say i won that so he's probably going to to the that in

the speech in just a few minutes and throughout the campaign is my guess. >> now, donald trump talked a lot this weekend about his silent majority and saying that he has a silent majority of supporters and listen to this. >> it's a term that i haven't heard for years, but i really think it applies now more than maybe ever before, and that's the term the silent majority. have you-all heard that? but the silent majority is back and we're going to take the country back. [ cheers ] >> i mean there is no way the majority of the country agrees with this governor. >> no the silent majority is 15% of republican voters. >> and it's on the other side governor, not the side he's taking about. >> interestingly, rev, what do you think the donald contributed

to clinton. is that a problem for him? >> if they bring up clinton and pelosi and others while scott walker is saying i stood up in four of the unions and fought everybody, beat them down. this guy plays all sides for business interest. that becomes a little difficult for trump. >> not just sad but meet the press did a great segment comparing where he stood on the issues. the complete opposite talking about hillary clinton, someone she liked and could vote for. we hear what he's saying about her and he's for universal health care at one point. i think scott walker is happy with standing up for what he believes and being consistent on the issues up until now. >> he just does that. >> he loves it. >> he says i'm a great guy and good to get along with but i'm a racist and a con man.

so i mean welcome to the club. again, we're waiting this announcement from wisconsin governor scott walker entering the 2016 presidential race. while he's one of the last candidates to jump in governor walker had a lot of experience winning. winning elections that is. racking up 12 victories in just 15 years. the only democrat to ever beat scott walker is my next guest. joining me now is congresswoman gwen moore. she beat walker in 1990 the last time he lost an election. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> what kind of candidate is governor walker? >> well i can tell you that when he ran against me, it was

sort of a herehearsal for his hero ronald reagan and the whole lee act water dog whistle edge issue kind of candidate. he thought that even though it was the democratic district we were running in, it was majority white so he thought that he could do that but he lost that race but he continued to refine that strategy of you know harkening to urban violence and crime and we've got to drug test food stamp recipients and all kinds of wedge issues that would keep him in the limelight. >> now let's talk about some of his record as governor of wisconsin. he signed the infamous anti union right to work legislation, planned a 20-week abortion ban,

refused the med medicaid expansion. is this what he wants to bring to the rest of the country, congresswoman? >> no, it's hard to say what he wants to bring. scott walker sells out when you talk about anti union legislation, i want to talk to you about how that happened. he started out by ending the collective collective bargaining rights of them and oh, i'm not going to do it to the private male-oriented unions to teachers and public workers. as soon as he was reelected, he did the unthinkable. through them under the bus. got an end to guaranteed 24-work.

he weakened these worker laws after campaigning and saying that he wouldn't do that. so he can't be trusted. we don't know what he wants. i mean most presidents of any party would want to improve public education, for example, and he destroyed public education for wisconsin taking yet another $250 million out of our flag ship university system as well as returning the entire state into a voucher program. >> so let me read another excerpt from governor walker's speech that he plans to say. i'm quoting the speech. quote, government that is closest to the people is usually the best. this is why we should move power and money out of washington and send it back to our state. congresswoman, what's he really saying here? >> i have no idea.

we have $800 million from the federal government for high-speed rail and he sent it back to washington. wisconsin is a donor state. he did not take the medicate expansion, as you mentioned earlier -- >> so he's saying take the money out of washington but he wouldn't take medicaid expansion and he sent the high rail money back to washington? >> exactly. we got at least a $250 million of our structural deficit is because he wouldn't take that medicaid expansion. i have no idea what he would do. he flip-flops. kids the elderly, women, he's going to sign a 20-week abortion ban. public unions now private unions, he's really our

environment. he has really, really ruined the state of wisconsin but he should be running but not for president. >> but abby not with standing those constituents that he'll clearly have a problem with the politics in the midwest next to iowa. give me the political map he could be looking at toward really looking at the nomination. >> he's doing well there. all the things she mentioned is everything that these voters in iowa, the republican voters in early primaries want to hear and that is exactly what he's going to say in a speech in a few moments. you mentioned on day one he's going to repeal obamacare and protect guns and do away with planned parent hood and -- >> is it all in the speech tonight? >> all speech tonight. >> so he's going way to the right? >> he is and positions himself as the conservative alternative to jeb bush because he knows it

could very well come down to an establishment player like jeb bush and then someone whose a conservative who is fighting for the far right and he can say look, time and time again, the party is put up the establishment candidate. look where that has gotten us. i have continued to fight for you, i won that repeal election based off unions alone. i'm your fighter, i can do this and not going to waiver. he changed his position on immigration but been open and honest and said i changed my mind and flipped but changed my opinion on it. while he's being honest, it will be interesting to see the message appeals beyond iowa and the early primary stage into a general election. >> now, governor, you are one of the most savvy political leaders and we see scott walker coming out. he's just been introduced. he's coming out shaking hands in short sleeves, no jacket, no tie looking like just everybody's friend regular guy.

very, very choreographed with i'm the guy in the midwest well thought of of what he wants and hugging his family. he does not appear ruffled and that's him running for president. you got to act like you're in charge and that you're not rattled, you're not anxious. so that's sure part of how you advice and so far he's pulling it off. we will see where he goes in the speech. a lot of this, abby in terms of the speech he's on the far right wanted to be the far right alternative to bush but he's got

to deal with the thougheater of trump and can he be fiery without looking extreme and all the way over there with them in terms of being a flame thrower but at the same time he can't be boring. >> and also relatable. that's what about about to see now as he tell as story of growing up and worked at mcdonalds to go to college. >> he didn't go to dartmouth. >> he didn't graduate. that's right. you hear we want trump in the audience. quite fascinated. >> i love america. [ cheers ] >> as kids my brother david and i used to love to go over and visit one of our neighbors. he was a legend in our small town. he had served our country in

world war i and world war ii. [ applause ] >> then like so many other veterans, he came back and served his community and over the years we used to love to see him at the concession stand at legion baseball. he would help out in the church and he was a leader in my boy scout troop. i can remember over the years before memorial day, he would organize me and the other scouts as we would go through and put up flags on the graves of the fallen. [ applause ] it was impossible to be around him and not share his love for god and country. you know i think back 30 years ago and his american legion post helped me attend a program that was there that i learned about state and local government. along the way it was interesting, i got the chance to be selected to represent wisconsin on a program in

washington d.c. called boy's nation and i met another veteran, vietnam veteran from georgia by the name of bob turner. bob and the other veterans that ran that program not only taught us about the federal governments and national elections, they shared their love for our country, and they inspired within me the importance of public service when it comes to defending our liberties. veterans like that remind me that what makes america great is the fact that america is a can do kind of country, unfortunately, we have a government in washington that can't quite seem to get the job done. you know washington or as i call it 68 square miles surrounded by reality, well the good news is it is not too late. we can turn things around. [ applause ]

>> to do that we need new fresh leadership leadership with big, bold ideas from outside of washington. the leadership that knows how to get things done like we've done here in wisconsin. since i've been governor, we took on the unions and we won. [ cheers ] >> we lowered taxes by $2 billion on individuals, on employers and property owners property taxes today are lower than they were four years ago. how many other governments can say that? since i've been governor we passed lawsuit reform and

regulatory reform. we defunded planned parent hood and passed prolife legislation. [ cheers ] >> we enacted conceal carry to protect ourselves, our families and our properties. [ cheers ] >> and we now require a photo id to vote in this state. [ cheers ] >> if our reforms can work in a blue state like wisconsin, they can work anywhere in america. as i travel this country, i got to tell you, people say they are frustrated with politicians

telling people who they are against and who. america is for something and for someone so continue let me tell you what i'm for. [ applause ] >> i'm for reform great, safeowth, safety, i'm for transferring power from washington to hard-working taxpayers and states across the country. that's real reform. [ cheers ] >> i'm for building an economy that allows everyone to live their piece of the american dream and i'm for protecting our children and grandchildren from radical islamic terrorism in the world. that's true safety.

my record shows that i know how to fight and win. now more than ever america needs a president who will fight and win for america. so first, so first, let me tell you why i'm for real reform in washington. our big bold reforms here in wisconsin took the power out of the hands of the big government special interest and put them firmly into the hands of the hard-working taxpayers. today, today in this state, people who are actually elected by local property taxpayers literally run our schools and that means we got rid of things like seniority and tenure. we can hire and fire and pay bids on terperformance and put the

best and brightest in our classrooms. now think about that, four years later graduation rates up third grade reading higher and act scores second best in the country. our reforms work. [ applause ] [ cheers ] >> that just goes to show that government closest to the people is generally the best, which is precisely why we need to take power and money out of washington and send it back to our state in key areas like medicaid and transportation and work force and education.

sadly, though sadly though washington seems to think that success is measured by how many people are dependant on the government. we, we measure success by just the opposite by how many people are no longer dependent on the government. [ cheers ] >> we understand that freedom of prosperity does not come from the mighty hands of the government but people handling their lives and dignity born of work, of work, that's what we stand for. >> now, as a kid my first job was washing dishes and i moved up to the big time, i started flipping hamburgers in high

school at mcdonalds. my dad you heard before was a small town preacher and my mom was a part-time secretary and bookkeeper. my grandparents were farmers and didn't have in ground plumbing until my mom went to junior high school. my mom's dad was a machinest. we realized we didn't inherit fame or fortune from family. we got the belief if you work hard and play by the rules, you can do and be anything. [ applause ] [ cheers ] >> that's right. you see, that's the american dream and that is worth fighting

for. when we help people, adults are able to work transition from government dependents to true independents, we help more people live that piece of the american dream. we have a program right here in wisconsin that requires people to be signed up for one of our employability programs, a job training program before they can get a welfare check and now, as of the budget i just signed we make the same requirement to make sure people can pass a drug test before they get it. [ cheers ] [ applause ] >> that's right. now you can only imagine what the defenders in the status quo thought when i proposed those reforms. they said i was making it harder to get government assistance. my reply, no i'm making it easier to get a job and isn't

that what it's all about? now you know strong families are important in this role as well. you see, we know that children are raised in a household with both parents involved are more likely to finish school to get a good job and to live a life free of government dependence. we need a federal government that will actually stand up and support strong families by getting rid of the marriage penalty and policies welfare policies that make it hard for fathers to play an active role in the lives of their children. we need to encourage families. i know thinking about my own family, for me both my parents were so important for david and me as we grew up for kids and tonette and i try to be good role models for matt and alex.

they turned out well. impressive to watch. we're so proud of them and i think about them i think about matt and i think about alex and i think about all the others in their generation and for them i want them to grow up in a for free and prosperous country. that's really about the american dream. now, to ensure that prosperity, we need to be for a progrowth economic plan that enables our individuals and our families to earn, to save to achieve their piece of the american dream. there is a real contest out there. instead of the top down government knows the best approach that you hear from so many in washington we need to build the economy from the ground up in a way that's new and fresh or dynamic that says as long as you don't violate the health and safety of your neighbor neighbor, start your career, build your own business live

your own life. [ cheers ] [ applause ] >> you see, that's freedom, the kind of freedom that's a corner stone of the american dream and so we've got a plan to help more people live that dream, a plan that will help more people create more jobs and higher wages and you know what it starts with? we need to repeal obamacare once and for all. we need to repeal the so-called affordable care act and put patients and families back in charge of health care decisions, not the federal government. many of you know when i first

became governor, i allowed the states to join the federal lawsuit on my first day. we need a president on the first day will call on the congress to once and for all repeal obamacare entirely. [ cheers ] >> then we need to rain in the federations. let's get rid of the bureaucratic red tape. ill call for a moratorium, we can do the same in washington and then we can repeal the other bad obama regulations to get this economy going again.

next we need an energy policy to give what god has given us in america and on this continent. that's right. [ applause ] >> we are an energy-rich country and we can literally start refueling our economic pick recovery. we need a president on day one will improve the keystone pipeline. pipeline. that's right, approve the pipeline and help people get the education and skills they need to succeed because we know if we do that, we can help people find careers that pay more than the minimum wage. here in wisconsin we reform public education and provide for

quality choices, quality choices for families because you see i trust families and parents to make the right decision for their children. i believe -- [ cheers ] >> i believe every wild regardless of zip code or what their parents do for a living every child deserves access to an education whether charter, choice private or virtual or home school education, every child deserves access to the a great education. that's why i want to work and along with that i want to make sure we have high standards but they should be set at the local

level. no common core no nationwide scoreboard. that's why i'll work so hard to take power and money out of washington and send it back to the state and school where it's more effective, more efficient and more accountable to the american people. [ cheers ] >> think about this many you take a dollar out of your purse of wallet would you rather spent that in washington or your child's school? your child's school and if you give me the chance we'll send those dollars back to help your child at their school. and then lower the burden so you

can keep we need to do that for individuals as well as job traders compare again in the world to bring more to put more americans back to work here in america. you know what? we can do it. we can do it because we did it in wisconsin and we can do it in washington. some wonder why i want to do it in washington? some shop at kohl's. over the years i learned if i go buy a new shirt, i go to the

rack that says sale and it's 19. 9 and then get the insert or flier back at home, right, where you get 15 or 20 or if you're really lucky, 30% off right? you know what i'm talking about. [ applause ] >> then as the clerk is ringing it up tonette scoops in her purse and pulls out some of that kohl's cash and next thing you know they are paying me to buy the shirt, right? not really but seems like it. how does a great company like kohl's make money? off volume they make it off volume. they can charge a higher price and a few of you can afford it but they lower the price, broaden the base and make more off value. that's why i think about your money, taxpayer's money. the government can charge a higher rate and some of us could

afford it but if you lower the rate broaden the brace, we expand the volume of the people that can participate in the economy. years ago we called a similar plan successful under regan. the laugher curve. today it's the kohl's curve because i believe you can spend your money better than the government and when we do the economy will get a whole lot better. to prosper we need to live in a safe and stable world. the commander in chief has a sacred duty to protect the american people. in my lifetime the best

president when it comes to national security and foreign policy was a governor from california under his leadership we rebuilt the military. we stood up for our allies. we stood up to our enemies and without apology, we stood for american vams. that lead to one of the most peaceful times in american history. sadly today under the clinton or obama clinton doctrine america is leading from behind and has us headed towards a disaster. thing about this. we have a president, a president who drew a line in the sand and allowed it to be crossed. a president that called isis the

jc squad krrks jv squad, iran a place we can do business with. iran. think about that. when my brother david and i were kids we tied ribbons around trees around the house when iran held 52 americans hostage. one of the hostages grew up down the way near us. kevin was the youngest a marine signed to serve in the u.s. embassy in teheran. kevin is here today with us.

[ applause ] >> kevin knows that iran is not a place to do business with. you see, i ran hasn't changed much since the day he and the other hostages were released on president regan's first day in office. looking ahead, we need to terminate the bad deal with iran on the very first day in office. [ cheers ] [ applause ] we need to terminate that deal on the first day in office. put in place crippling economic sanctions in iran and convince our allies to do exactly the same thing.

earlier this year president obama declared proclaimed the greatest threat to future generations is global warming, climate change. well mr. president, i respectfully disagree. the greatest threat is radical islamic terrorism and we need to do something about it. we can start by lifting the political restrictions on our military personnel already in iraq and in empower them to help our clerk and sunny allies reclaim the territory taken by

isis because on behalf of your children, i would rather take the fight to them instead of waiting for them to take the fight to us. we need to acre nomknowledge israel is an ally and start threatening them like an ally. there should be no daylight between our two countries. that's why early this year when i went to israel. i not only met with the prime minister but opposition leader to let them know if i were president, there would be no daylight between the united states and israel going forward.

we need to stop the aggression of russia into solve earn nations. putin believes if you find mush you push under obama and clinton, putin has found a lot of mush over the last few years. the united states needs a foreign policy to put steel in front of our enemies. we need to stop china's cyber attack s and slow advances into international waters and speak about about their human rights record and we need to have the

capacity to protect our national security interest here and abroad and those of our allies that begins, that begins by rebuilding the defense budget by going back to the level pros pose -- proposed by secretary of defense gates. we need to honor our men and women in uniform by giving them the resources that they need to make us safe and going forward by giving them the quality and timely health care that they deserve when they return home. [ cheers ] but most of all, the best way we can honor them is by fighting to

win. you see, this is important. our goal should be peace. but there will be times when america must fight and if we must americans fight to win. [ applause ] >> going forward the world must know there is no greater friend and no worse enemy than the united states of america. [ cheers ] [ applause ] >> usausa! usa! usa! usa! >> america, america is a great

country. it's a great country and you know what? we need to lead again. it's not too late. can do it because we've done it before. reminds me what makes america great, what makes us exceptional, what makes us the greatest country in all of the world is all throughout our history in times of crisis, be it economic or fiscal, be it military or spiritual, there have been men and women of courage who have been willing to stand up and think more about future generations than they thought about their own political futures. ladies and gentlemen, this is one of those times in american history.

[ cheers ] and so after a great deal of thought and a whole lot of prayer. we are so honored to have you join with us here today as we officially announce that we are running to serve as your president of the united states of america. [ cheers ] [ applause ] >> tonette and i want our sons

matt and alex and sons and daughters like them to grow up in a country that is as great, as great as inherited. americans deserve a president who will fight and win for them. [ cheers ] [ applause ] >> someone who will stand up to the right of life liberty and pursuit of happiness. someone who will stand up for our religious freedoms and all of our other constitutional rights. someone who will stand up for america. you see, it doesn't matter what

you come from a big city or suburb or small town i will fight and win for you. healthy healthy or thick, born or unborn i will fight and win for you. young or old or in between, i will fight and win for you. [ applause ] >> over the years, i met some amazing people. many of whom have come here from other places around the world. i got to tell you, to a person the people i've met like that tell me the reason they came here was not to become dependent in the government. no the reason they came here

was because america is one of the few places left in the world where doesn't matter what class you were born into or what your parents did for a living in america, you can do and be anything you want. that's the american spirit. you see, in america, the opportunity should be equal for all of us but the outcome, that's up to each and every one of us here and across the this great country. that's why we took a day off to celebrate the fourth of july and not the 15th of april, because in america, we celebrate our independence from the government, not our dependence on it.

that's why i love america chasm that's why we, we love america and that's why working together we can fight and win for america. thank you for coming out. god bless you-all for staying here. god beszless our military and may god continue to bless the united states of america. >> well, you've been listening to the live announcement by governor walker wisconsin announcing officially that he's in the race and as stated, a very far-right speech. he hit everything on the right from isis to octoberbamacare to voter id laws keystone pipeline. let me bring back in casey hunt

and governor casey, you were there. how did it feel in the room? >> well, reverend, he delivered that speech without any teleprompter. it lead to a few differences from the text including the main line where he said we are running for president instead of i. this is an expanded version from scott walker and it's clear he's been working on this and has gotten better in front of a crowd with time. he really stood out first in january back in iowa and it was a version of the speech he gave there that has shown a considerable degree of improvement and as said hit on themes walker talked about including voter ids. reverend? >> it really was. governor, quite impressive, i must say you and i do public speaking to speak that long without a teleprompter speaking

from memory but aside from that, what is your reaction? >> well, i thought it was an accident speech to republican primary voters. you're right, and casey is right, it hit all the right-wing themes but he did it standing like a fairly moderate guy. close your eyes and sort of imagine being president of the united states. so i think it was very effective but boy, i'm going to hang onto the transcript for the general election because there are things we wonder can we turn out the base like we did for president obama? there were lines in the speech that were red meat for the base too. too. >> casey hunt, ed, thank you both for your time tonight. ahead, why every single republican contender snubbed a conference held by the nation's largest latino activist group. that's next. price. you heard right, just tell us what you need done and we'll find a top rated provider to take care of it. so i could get a faulty light switch fixed?

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today a big conference, so where were the republican contenders? they were no shows, not one republican contender acre cemented the invitation to speak. another chance lost to prove donald trump doesn't speak from their party. joining me now is janice president and ceo and erica immigration activist andrema. thank you for being here. >> janet, what are your thoughts on not one republican showing up? >> you know, it's really hard to believe with latino vote being so important and really making a big difference in the last election we know they will make a huge difference in this election we have that kind of

political clout now and yet, the republicans have been no shows at most of the latino events held across the country including ours with the largest gathering of activist and grass roots leaders across the country. there is an old add age that says if you want our vote come and ask for it and if they don't ask for it, it's hard to imagine they can rally in time to get the support. so we encourage them to rethink their philosophy and really engage directly the latino community. >> erica, donald trump drew thousands this weekend. you protested it. how do you feel with the republican contenders not taking advantage of going to la rassa and really standing up to donald trump? not one of them as trump has drew thousands of people. >> i think they forgot the results of 2012 where romney

lost by sticking to self-deportation poll sews. for me, it's interesting to see walker wouldn't mention anything on immigration. i don't think he knows what to say after trump has spoken for the party. it's very unfortunate and i hope that they backtrack and the ones that are a little bit, you know, more, have a little more common sense and realize they need the latino vote to win 2016 in this case. >> as you say, janet, the numbers are clear, leverage is there. it seems that they either don't get it or they don't care. >> yeah our hope is that they will get it otherwise, they will miss a huge opportunity to speak to the fastest-growing part of this country's electric and we actually want to know that people care enough for our vote to show up and ask for it. we've got a lot of work to do but i hope they will understand that unless they change their ways and reject the trump part of the party, they will have a

hard time getting traction with the latino voters. >> janet and erica, thank you both for your time tonight. thank you for watching. i'm al sharpton "hardball" starts right now. trump doubles down on message and doubles up in the polls. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in los angeles and like it or not, donald trump is punching the political establishment in the belly by grabbing many american voters in the gut. meanwhile, the other money people in the republican party are getting up to focus groups to find out where to nail hillary clinton. they are sharpening the attack bring down the democrat they expect to face next november and it will be brutal. right