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sanctions. >> today, because america negotiated from a position of strength and principle, we have stopped the spread of nuclear weapons in this region. because of this deal the international community will be able to verify that the islamic republic of iran will not develop a nuclear weapon. >> but the deal will be a tough sale at home for both the u.s. and iran. >> translator: today is the beginning, the beginning of a new movement, the beginning of a new joy, beginning of a new hope hope, beginning of a better future for our young people. >> and with key u.s. allies like saudi arabia and israel opposed to the deal, it could be a rocky road ahead. >> iran will get a jackpot of
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cash bonanza of hundreds of billions of dollars which will enable it to continue to pursue its aggression in terror in the region and in the world. this is a bad mistake of a stark proportion. >> and coming up here secretary kerry responds to netanyahu as well as to the other critics of this nuclear deal. and we will sit down with kerry's iranian counterpart, iran's foreign minister zarif. plus the chair of the for written relates it is committee bob corker and top democrat ben carden carden. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in vienna on a day when john kerry's long march to a nuclear deal crossed the finish line. it was only in the early hours of the morning after three missed deadlines and 1 days of intense talks iran and six world powers agreed on the terms of limiting iran's nuclear program and reducing its nuclear stockpile.
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in return iran will gain hundreds of billions of dollars in sanction relief. one it meets its nuclear commitments. and with the deal truly stopped the spread of nuclear weapons in the region as president obama suggested today. i sat down with secretary of state john kerry just after the deal was announced and asked him whether this is tough enough. >>. and it's wrong for people to think that this doesn't have long-term accountability. iran has agreed to a i adopt the additional protocol of iaea. that has huge set of additional requirements for access and for accountability. in addition we negotiated a series of restraints on iran ranging from a 300 kilogram stockpile for 15 years, a limit on their enrichment to 3.67% for 15 years, a limit on metallurgy a limit on heavy water for 15
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years, a limit on their centrifuge production with insight to their centrifuge production for 20 years, and a complete tracking of their mining milling, their use of and their disposal of uranium for 25 years. and on that, beyond that there's the lifetime forever requirements of the additional protocol and a mechanism by which we negotiated access. so i think we have extraordinary accountability way beyond any other nuclear agreement that we've ever made and iran can be held accountable. >> they've cheated before. >> yes. >> they've built an underground facility. >> and, by the way, we discover discovered it. >> after it was already built. >> but that's exactly why we are where we are and we will have iaea inspectors under this agreement continually in iran. there will be an office in iran. they will have more inspectors. they will have daily access to these facilities.
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>> they have to ask for permission. they can't go anywhere any place, any time. >> no, no. there's a process by which they have to file questions and then they get an answer and -- but at the end, we getting access. that is the dispute resolution that we negotiated. this cannot go on forever. there's a fixed number of days and the united states always has the ability to go to the security council. we always have the ability to be able to hold them accountable in i any number of different ways. what the critics of this plan never offer, andrea is a realistic alternative. what is the alternative? hold on to sanctions? you can't. >> what do you say to b.b. netanyahu? >> israel is safer. >> historic mistake is what he said. >> he said the same thing about the interim agreement. and he was wrong. the fact is that he's practically been making comments that are way over the top. he doesn't even know what the concessions are that we have not engaged in because we haven't made concessions. so there's a game -- there's a
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process here. this is under attack by people who really don't know the terms of the agreement. and they don't offer an alternative. their alternative is what perpetual state of sanctions? not gonna happen. are european and chinese and russian friends are not going to do that. what are they going to do say, well, we're going to bring you to heel by saying you can't have enrichment at all? that's what president bush had as a policy and they went from 164 centrifuges to 19,000. so we are the first administration to actually stop their program, roll it back, make it accountable, and set up a system going for ward into the future. that's a better deal. >> iran's or its proxies were involved in four hot wars right now. how do you justify down the road five years, eight years, or sooner taking off the arms embargo on conventional weapons and ballistic missiles? >> well, look, the united
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nations passed a resolution that said if iran comes to the negotiating table, the sanctions will be lifted. that was the deal. we're not even doing that. we're keeping the sanctions in place despite the fact that three of the negotiating countries thought they should end automatically. we won that battle. we're keeping them in place for another five years. and we always have the ability to go back to the u.n. to do any number of things ourselves if they don't change or things don't get better. >> how do you know -- >> the united states doesn't lose anything, andrea, by giving them the opportunity to prove this is a peaceful program. what's the alternative, go to war now? do you want to -- everybody want to say automatically let's bomb iran? is that the alternative? some people want to do that. president obama believes the first thing you want to do is exhaust the opportunity of diplomacy. and if iran doesn't live by it
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andrea, all the options are available to us. that's what's so ridiculous here in some of this opposition. we know we will have their program for the 15 years, absolutely where it needs to be. and then after that we will have a system in place which is sufficiently penetrating and accountable that we will know what iran is doing. it's that simple simple. >> they were burning american flags on friday. it's qods day. >> qods day is qods day. everybody knows what that is. it's not a day -- >> the supreme leader is going to support what foreign minister zarif has negotiated with you here? >> because for written minister zarif said he would and president rouhani said he would and that's what they're proffering. they get nothing. they get nothing, not one ounce of relief on any sanction if they don't build the one-year breakout and dismantle their program. are you telling me that it's
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smarter not to put them to the test to dismantle their program, restrain their research get rid of their enriched uranium, not be able to build a bomb and somehow people want to be skeptical and say, oh, i don't know what they're going to do so let's not do anything? it us doesn't make sense. we will have the greatest insight of any nuclear program ever. we will know what they are doing. i believe it makes sense to put to the test whether or not this is a peaceful nuclear program. >> glad to see they have not exhausted you and your passion forgetting this done. congratulations. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> a very animated john kerry even though he was finalizing the deal, the draft himself at 3:00 this morning. and then of course going through this whole day here. congress now has 60 days to review the deal which president obama said would be irresponsible to walk away from. >> i am confident that this deal will meet the national security
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interest of the united states and our allies. so i will veto any legislation that prevents the successful implementation of this deal. >> and joining me now from capitol hill is senator bob corker chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, republican from tennessee. thank you very much for being with us. what do you think? >> looking forward to you getting back to the united states here soon. but look -- >> so am i. are you going to -- men and women of the united states congress going to approve this from what you know today? you've seen at least the draft, it's online now. >> yeah. yeah. and dra, our staff is going through this document. there are numbers of other documents that need to accompany it. there are classified annexes. i think you know the director of national intelligence has to certify certain things. the 60-day process begins when all of that comes to us. obviously we want to go through it. i'm going to get a preliminary
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briefing as soon as we get through with this interview. look i agree with skepticism. this has been on a downward trend for some time. i think if you just look at kerry's nature here very defensive versus president rouhani who is spiking the football in the end zone saying they've achieved every goal they wanted to achieve, i think most people, as a matter of fact, on a byipartisan basis, there's a lot of skepticism. but look as you mentioned, we've got a process that will set in place, by the way, the president also said that he was going to veto. it's now law. and we'll go through the process over the next 60 days and a decision will be made. >> how do you answer kerry's question his rhetorical question is, what's the alternative? >> yeah. >> here you have a limit on iran's nuclear program for at least ten years and in some cases 15 years. and in some cases 25 years and some of it is permanent, as has been explained and we've all read the documents. and isn't that better than
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trying to go to war or bomb them especially when people are weary of this that it wouldn't work, it probably wouldn't slow them down for very long. >> look, i'm all for diplomacy and have want a good deal to be negotiated. as you know from day one, we've talked about it a number of times. i think it's amazing, andrea that a country acting roguish in nature had a boot on its neck two years ago and with six important countries, with the u.s. taking the lead they've ended up in situation where we began with dismantling their program for sanctions relief now we have gone to -- now we're in the process -- we're not mode of managing their proliferation. we're acknowledging that. so the margin for errors there are very narrow. i still don't know what happened on the previous military dimensions comeponentcomponent. hopefully i'll know soon. i still don't know how the inspection process is going to work. i still don't know what happened
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on the ballistics missile program. i still don't know how the sanctions relief is going to work. i still don't know what's happened on this arms embargo. so i think it's, again i greet this with sket sichl as people on both sides of the aisle are. but look let us go through and understand. i just don't know how iran though has been automobile to achieve all of their goals when you had six important countries on the other side and go to a place where, let's face it after year eight they're going to be able to as we know it anyway today, industrialize a program that we said we were going to dismantle. so look i think you have some skepticism just based on your questions. i think that's the appropriate place for us to begin. and as soon as we get all the documents, that's what we're going to do. >> we look forward to seeing your hearings and your reaction after you've studied it. thank you very much senator corker. >> thank you. coming up world reaction to the iran nuclear deal.
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by not dismantling iran's nuclear program, in a decade this deal will give an unreformed, unrepent tent and far reacher sbris regime the capacity to produce many nuclear bombs. in fact, an entire nuclear arsenal with the means to deliver it. what a stunning historic mistake. israel is not done -- is not bound by this deal with iran because iran continues to seek our destruction. we will always defend ourselves. >> israel prime minister
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benjamin netanyahu responding to the iran nuclear deal that was announced today. reaction continues to come in from around the world, so let's check in now with nbc news tehran bureau chief live from the iranian capital. and nbc news chief for written. correspondent richard engel live from tell i viv. the prime minister did not mince words. richard, what are you hearing from the israeli public? >> the israeli public is also concerned about this deal as far as we've been able to tell doing interviews today. there was a feeling that this is a gamble that the u.s. is gambling by making a deal with iran that this deal was coming and many israelis knew this deal was coming. the israelis worry if the gamble doesn't work and it is a misgamble, that they could be the ones who have to pay the ultimate price. they see that the u.s. has a potential upside for doing a deal that it could have historic diplomatic
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implications reducing potentially the number of dangerous weapons in the world held by dangerous actors. and that potentially it could bring iran out of the cold and bring them into more -- into the community of moderate nation. but again, the israelis will say what if it doesn't work? they are in the firing line and generally speaking diplomatic moves, bold diplomatic moves in the middle east especially when israel is in the mix, haven't worked. >> and what is the alternative as the president and both john kerry also said richard? >> well, the alternative is a difficult one here. when you ask people and you ask the government they would have liked to see more sanctions, to keep the proverbial boot on iran's neck potentially indefinitely. and i don't think they see that as the u.s. administration is
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arguing right now as an impossible scenario. they thought iran was weakened. they thought they had iran beg for some sort of relief that it came to the negotiating table because it was hurting economically and israel wanted to see that continue for a very long time, potentially until the regime relented and changed its ways. it's a very different way of looking at rogue regimes or looking at hard line regimes here as opposed to the way the administration is -- seems to be looking at it right now. the u.s. is making a gamble that the rogue regime that is iran right now can be encouraged to be more moderate by engaging in sanction relief by engaging in diplomacy very much the same way that myanmar was brought in from out of the cold or cuba is being brought in from out of the cold and that encourages moderation.
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here in israel they do not think that will work with iran that the theocracy in iran or carrots can induce to it change. they want to continue hitting iran with the capitulated. whether that is realistic or not, that is the view from here. >> in tehran the view is completely different. you have spoken to a lot of people young people, just waiting and praying for this day to come. >> that's right, andrea. this has changed the fortunes of everybody in iran from the regime to the regular people. regular people that we've been speaking to -- they wanted to in from the cold, they wanted to be a part of international commune community. they don't want iran to be viewed as pariah nation. people are getting ready for
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post fasting celebrations. linked up with each other in the main square of iran. let their hair down and celebrate this deal and hope their fortunes will change. i also got the fortunes of the regime has changed with this deal. let's not forget after the disputed re-election of ahmadinejad in 2009 iran ruz inflamed for a years. street protests. the government was very unpopular. there was talk of war. factions had come in the economic situation was bad and the regime was on the run, securing the nuclear deal getting rid of the sanctions. they've changed their fortunes 180 degrees. i've spoken to people in iraq who are not particularly fond of the regime but they like rouhani. they think he's done a good thing. they've secured their future and bought themselves more longevity by doing this deal the way they did and negotiating it very well
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for themselves. it changed the fortune for regular iranians and the government here. i spoke to an iranian girl here earlier today who came to our bureau for an interview. she lived abroad all of her life. because of this deal coming through she came back to iran she wanted to work here she was very excited about the future here. andrea? >> it's about being able to come back to my own country and helping rebuild it. there's going to be certain people who won't be to their interest for iran to open up. but from my personal experience the iranians are absolutely in love with america. they love the west. they want to be part of the world stage. and they have just been holding their breaths for this opportunity. >> such an interesting transition for iran -- >> andrea -- >> go ahead, ali. >> sorry, andrea. i was going to say that sentiment that we just heard runs through across the city.
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i was enterinterviewing a gentleman who owns a cellphone store in downtown and he said america american and iran governments don't like each other but iranians love apple products, they love all american products. this is going to be a new era. andrea? >> i was saying that's such a different perspective. thank you so much, ali arouzi and thank you, also to richard engel, of course. more from netanyahu's chief spokesman coming up next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" live from vienna.o siness by leading the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes. we enacted the lowest corporate tax rate since 1968. we eliminated the income tax on manufacturers altogether. with startup-ny, qualified businesses that start, expand or relocate to new york state pay no taxes for 10 years. all to grow our economy and create jobs. see how new york can give your business the opportunity to grow
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use and a free 30-tablet trial. because our friends won't do that. >> what do you say to israel's prime minister? historic mistake is what he said. >> he said the same thing about the interim agreement and he was wrong. the fact is that he's practically been making comments that are way over the top. he doesn't even know what the
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concessions are that we have not engaged in because we haven't made concessions. so there's a game -- there's a process here. this is under attack by people who really don't know the terms of the agreement. and they don't offer an alternative. their alternative is what perpetual state of sanctions? not going to happen. >> iran's foreign minister zarif is returning to tehran later tonight confident he can sell this deal back home. i talked to him a short time ago. tell me what you think is the significance of this agreement between iran, the united states and the other world powers? >> well, i think the significance is variable to resolved it diplomatically. all sorts of ways and means of addressing this issue has been exhausted exhausted, basically, over the last many years. iran has been under all sorts of sanctions for 35 years, as far as the united states is concerned, and seven or eight
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years thousand the united nations security council, and a western type of orchestrated sanctions against iran. and it didn't work. and two years of diplomacy did. and that's the situation answer. it shows that in our globalized world diplomacy has a much better chance of achieving results than coercion and pressure. i hope this will be a lesson for other situations as well. >> do you think as you alluded to earlier in the week that this could open the door towards different kind of relationship between the united states and iran on other issues? >> well, i think this is a beginning to start a different type of relationship with the west, and i hope that the united states can exhibit a type of behavior in the implementation of this agreement that can, in fact help remove some of the compounded mistrust that has been building mutually between the two countries over the past
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many decades but particularly since the revolution. it is important to see if we can use this opportunity of an agreement that is in the interest of everybody, good for everybody, i don't think this agreement harms anybody. if we can use this agreement in order to start denting that wall of mistrust. >> secretary kerry and president obama have to persuade critics in both political parties in congress who say this is not tough enough, that the sanctions should not be lifted and that the ban on conventional weapons and ballistic missiles should not be phased out. what do you say to the critics in washington in congress? >> well, actually it's sort of reciprocal situation. we have our critics. we have people in iran who have a lot of mistrust in the ability and the intention of the united states to live up to this agreement and to try to
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implement its part of the deal. so it's going to be a difficult exercise. but what i can tell people who oppose this this deal is that they tried. all other options. didn't work. now diplomacy produced results. at least initially. let's give it a chance and see if it works. >> on the other hand we watched what happened on qods day on friday. the american flag burned posters of barack obama. that fuels the suspicions and the anger among those who don't believe that this should -- this deal should be done. what do you say about that? >> yeah as i said we've had a very difficult history. the iranian people have witnessed a democratically elected government over thrown orchestrated by the united states. they have seen that the united states supported saddam hussein
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who waged war for eight years, used chemical weapons against iranian soldiers and civilians and the united states even provided intelligence in order to enable it to use chemical weapons against us. that's not a very bright history. people have reason to be pessimistic about u.s. intentions. i think it's hard time for the united states to try to address these anxieties. >> do you think there could be actual cooperation against isis or dash we have a common adversary in what's happening in iraq and in syria. but now we say there's no military cooperation even though -- >> iranian has been on the forefront of really fighting the extremists and sectarianism in our region. i believe the international community not only has a duty to engage in this fight, not just a
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military fight, but a serious comprehensive battle against this menace. it frightens me to see that the people who are beheading innocent human beings speak english or french with native ak accept. accent. this is not a local menace in is not a regional menace. this is a global menace. >> there are, of course many critics who say that iran sponsors terror in other areas, hezbollah financing and other terror groups. what can you say to that? >> well, look at the realities on the ground in the middle east. probably those who are now beheading innocent individuals wreaking havoc in our region none of them are financed by iran but instead by u.s. allyies. again, i have to say you need to look at none of them are under terrorist states. that tells you something about the terrorism. that tells you that that is more
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a reflection of u.s. pattern of alliance and bilateral relations than any real objective reality on the ground in our region. >> how much was the personal relationship between you and john kerry responsible for breaking through logjams when there were obstacles along the way? >> i think secretary kerry showed a great deal of patience. and courage and exercised a great deal of wisdom in order to be able to move this process forward. and i believe his commitment to this process as well as president obama and president rouhani. >> and the supreme leader the ayatollah is going to support this agreement? >> it's a decision that he will make but he has supported us all along. he's always been for diplomacy. he said publicly that diplomacy is very preferable to other
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methods of engamging in global politics. >> and to people like prime minister netanyahu who said today it is a mistake of historic proportions, can you answer that? >> well, i think if people see this as a problem, it shows that they need tension, they need conflict, or they see peace as an existential tlithreat. this has become the joke for the mr. netanyahu to advocate nonproliferation for 200, just about, nuclear warheads sitting in his stockpile. >> and can you see -- foresee the day when iran and the united states could actually have diplomatic relations? >> well, in the world of politics, nothing is impossible but i think we are not there. what we need to do is to use this opportunity to start to
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bring down the very serious world of mistrust that has been built between the two countries for over several decades. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> and up next prime minister netanyahu's spoke man with his response to the iran deal. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" live from vienna only on msnbc.
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and coming up ben carden, the top democrat is going to take a close look at this deal. first, former secretary of state and presidential candidate hillary clinton is on capitol hill today meeting with congressional leaders who said the president called her last night. she said to brief her on the iran talks.
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>> this is an important step that puts the lid on iran's nuclear programs and it will enable us then to turn our attention, as it must to doing what we can with other partners in the region and beyond to try to prevent and contain iran's other bad actions. so all in all, i think we have to look at this seriously, evaluate it carefully, but i believe based on what i know now this is an important step. it's so shiny. i know, mommy, but it's time to let the new kitchen get some sleep. ♪ if you want beautiful results, you know where to go. angie's list. everyone can shop for services from highly rated companies, even without a membership. but as a member, you can save more. and you get exclusive access to ratings and reviews. angie's list is there...
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taking this step because an iran arm we'd a nuclear weapon would be far more destabilizing and far more dangerous to our friends and to the world. >> israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu has made no secret of his distrust over the iran nuclear deal. mark regev joins me now. mark his words were very tough. what about the argument that the president makes that this is stopping nuclear proliferation in the region and that having eyes on iran's nuclear program is far better than not knowing what might be going on? >> well, the truth is israel is united with iran's arab neighbors in opposition to this deal. we all see it as a threat. and the first thing i say to you, andrea when arabs and israelis agree it doesn't happen every day of the week. so when we agree people should i think, take notice. we see this deal not as
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preventing iran from getting a nuclear weapon but ultimately we believe in a decade or so they will have the capability to have a whole arsenal of nuclear weapons. this deal leaves them with a massive nuclear infrastructure. they don't have to dismantle it. it's there. and they can in the long term, in a decade or so that's if they keep the deal have as i said a whole arsenal of nuclear weapons. >> mark one country in one gulf state the uae today came out in support of this differing with the rest of the gulf council. but it does dismantle the core of their reactor at iraq and arak, irak and it does create limits on what can be done underground. there are significant steps on the whole fuel cycle according to our energy secretary and secretary kerry, but energy
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secretary earnest monuz is a nuclear physicist from m.i.t. and he's been here negotiating every step of the way on this. couldn't they be right? >> we looked at this deal very care flid and we're still learning all the details. but the big picture is clear, iran gets to maintain a formidable nuclear infrastructure. it doesn't have to close down a single nuclear facility even those two that were built illegally underground. at netance there will be thousands of centrifuges that will continue spinning. they continue to be allowed to do r&d on next generation centrifuges. basically iran gets to keep this massive infrastructure and in a decade or so under the deal you have a situation where iran is very close to having the capability of producing fissile
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material for a whole series of nuclear weapons. it's very dangerous. another issue that has to be dealt with is that iran -- this deal -- >> i was going to say, mark that in fact, it reduces the level of enriched uranium to such a low level that it can't be used for a weapon. there are real limits on the whole fuel cycle, the whole supply chain, and the centrifuges are going to be at least for the first ten years just the very early -- early centrifuges which are not as advanced as the ones that yes, after ten years they are going to be able to repurchase. so there are specific limits. perhaps take a closer look, get a briefing. i don't know if you've been briefed by the administration on the specifics. have you heard anything out of them? has anyone called you? >> andrea we're looking very specifically at all the detail
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oss of this deal. and the big picture is that i say although there are some limitations that the iranians have agreed to in the short term, in a decade or so and this is of course if they keep the agreement, if they decide to break out, that's a different story, but if they keep the agreement you have in a decade or so that iran on the resip resipitous of having a nuclear arsenal. another thing is the issue of the easing of the sanctions because this deal ultimately will allow iran to have the input into its coffers of hundreds of millions of dollars, money that will be used to fund its global terrorism, its regional aggression, and we see this as re-enforcing negative behavior by the iranians. it's almost as if this deal is a hope that in the next ten years somehow the iranians will moderate their behavior and i would remind you just this weekend we saw once again from the iranians threats of death to america, death to israel, the
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burning of american and israel flags. the iranians remain committed to a very extremist theology. they see america as the great satan, we're the little satan. we think one should be much more worried about their true intepgss. and once again, this regime has a massive nuclear infrastructure that is basically not being dismantled. it will be there and they have the ability to crush it if they decide to do so in a decade. >> i apologize. i wasn't interrupting you. as you know as our viewers can tell there is a huge satellite delay delay. look forward to seeing you in person next time around. thank you very much, mark regular give give regev. congress has 60 days to decide what to do about it. joining me now from capitol hill, senator ben carden ranking member of the top democrat on the senate foreign relations committee. senator, from an official look
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at what has been negotiated here, what's your reaction? >> well, andrea first of all this certainly is an historic agreement and is one that we need to pay great attention to. it's one of the most consequential agreements for america's supreme court by. so we built in 60-day review periodnd we need to have open transparent hearings. we have to understand what's in the agreement. we've got to read the agreement. there are areas of concern. we have to understand the -- what the text says and get briefed by those who were negotiators and also have the public sector experts have their opinion. so i am encouraged by what i've heard from senator corker on the process our committee will use that will have open hearings. we're not going to rush to judgment. i think we need to do that. they took two years to get to this agreement. question can at least get the 60 days to get this right. >> president obama had a very strong veto threat today. does that make your life more
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complicated or is that just part of the back and forth between him and capitol hill? >> in our system the congress is an independent branch. i hope my colleagues will want to do what's right for this country. so i hope we do it in a way that keeps the best traditions of the congress of the united states senate. so let's do it right. let's read it. let's do what we think is right for this country and let the politics sort of play out. >> thank you so much. senator ben cardin from mashd on the foreign relations committee. donald trump sharing his thoughts on this iran deal. hi. hi. hi. hello. hi. hi. hi. hi my name's josh. kelly. my name is raph. steve. my name is anne. tom. brian. krystal. and i am definitely not a robot. i'm one of the real live attorneys you can talk to through legalzoom. whether it's for your business or your personal life, don't let unanswered legal questions hold you up. because we're here. we're here we're here
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and just moments ago republican presidential candidate donald trump sounded off about the iran nuclear deal with nbc's katy tur. let's listen. >> he dealt from desperation and he shouldn't have been desperate. first of all, we're giving them
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billions of dollars in this deal, which we shouldn't give them. kept the money. second of all, we have four prisoner over there. we should have said, let the prisoners out. they shouldn't be over there. you -- one's in there because he's a christian. he's a pastor. one's in there, a writer. i mean they shouldn't be in prison. so he should have said we're not doing anything let them out. they would have let them out in two minutes. if the right messenger delivered the message. they should have been out at the beginning of the negotiation, not tend. who would think we would do a negotiation and have four prisoners. >> what about the principle of the deal? >> the principle is terrible. we have to be able to inspect immediately, immediately. we don't have to inspect immediately. any time, anywhere we should be able to call any time anywhere. we have to be able to go in and inspect. and if you don't have that you have nothing. because you know the iranians are going to cheat. they are going to cheat. they are great negotiators and you know they're going to cheat. >> and stay with msnbc for much
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more of katy tur's interview with donald trump. that does it forred this addition of "andrea mitchell reports." before we leave you from vienna john kerry's going to be on his way home shortly. so will i after "nbc nightly news" tonight. thanks from the wonderful team here on nbc here in vienna. it's been a fascinating moment in history. i've been privileged to share it with you. now it's time to come home. remember, follow the show online, on facebook, an on twitter @mitchellreports. my colleague thomas roberts is next on "msnbc live."on ue. [cat meows] [laughs] ♪meow, meow, meow, meow...♪ ♪meow, meow, meow, meow...♪ it's more than just a meal it's meow mix mealtime. with 100% complete and balanced nutrition and the taste, textures and variety cats love, it's the only one cats ask for by name.
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♪ building aircraft, the likes of which the world has never seen. this is what we do. ♪ that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. hi everybody. i'm thomas roberts. today on "msnbc live" breaking news this landmark nuclear deal with iran. president obama says will make the world safer. >> today, because america negotiated from a position of strength and principle, we have stopped the spread of nuclear weapons in this region. >> meanwhile, israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu
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furiously denounces what he calls a very bad deal. >> the international community is removing the sanctions and iran is keeping its nuclear program. what a stunning historic mistake. >> meanwhile from the campaign trail hillary clinton today issuing a cautious endorsement of the deal she helped lay the groundwork for as secretary of state. >> i think this is an important step that puts the lid on iran's nuclear programs. >> we are covering this breaking news from all angles. chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell is in vienna chief foreign correspondent richard engel in tell aviv, ben rhodes at the white house for us and independent senator from maine, angus king. i want to begin with nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell who has been there for all 18 days of the negotiations. andrea, former diplomat anything clause burns told congress this morning this is one of the most koch my indicated deals since
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the league of nations vote. unpack this for us and what each side won. >> well, i think the united states certainly won and it's world power allies certainly won a level of transparency into iran's program. they know will be able through the iaea inspections and through other verifications processes, new technology that hadn't been available before, will be able to have realtime inspections, eyes on the president called it 24/7. i think what he was referring to and you can ask ben rhodes is that they do have new kinds of monitoring inging inging inging equipment, high-tech equipment. we'll have to ask if they're going to an unusual site. i'm not sure they are going to be able to interview the scientists and all of the others involved in the program that they have requested. i'm not sure who won out on that. i'll have to look at that more closely. certainly for ten years therefore caps on this. iran gets sanction relief certainly but what