full remarks live online. that is all for "now." the "ed show" is coming up next. good evening americans and welcome to the "ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. tonight a deal divided. >> long-term deal with iran that will prevent it from obtaining a nuclear weapon. >> this agreement could be a beginning. >> what a stunning historic mistake. >> we'll do everything we can to stop it. >> plus out of this world. >> fasten your seat belts. new horizons has arrived at the pluto system. >> later clinton's capitol hill visit. >> we're pleased to welcome, in the fullest sense of that word secretary hillary clinton to our caucus. >> we had a great conversation with secretary clinton. >> and packing punches. >> the left claims that they are for american workers and they just got lame ideas, things like the minimum wage. >> good to have you with us.

thank you for watching. we start with the major news on they icic iranian nuclear deal. iran and six world powers reached a deal met to roll back iran's nuclear programs in exchange for new regulations. iran has agreed to reduce its stockpile of low enriched uranium by 98% for 15 years. they agreed to eliminate two-thirds of the 19,000 centrifuges already installed. just over 5,000 can continue to enrich uranium. the deal essentially lifts a united nations weapons ban on conventional weapons in five years and ballistic missiles in eight years. it is not a perfect deal but it is a great start. it eventually lifts economic sanctions on iran which is what they wanted all along.

the agreement also gives weapons inspectors full access to iran's nuclear sites. that of course is a big sticking point. is that for real? >> earlier president obama announced the agreement while touting american diplomacy. >> this demonstrates american diplomacy can bring about real and meaningful change. change that makes our country and the world safer and more secure. today because america negotiated from a position of strength and principle principle, we have stopped the spread of nuclear weapons in this region. because of this deal the international community will be able to verify that the islamic republic of iran will not develop a nuclear weapon. >> president obama is expected to give a press conference tomorrow about the deal. criticism of the iron nuclear agreement has been pouring in. israeli prime minister netanyahu had some harsh words for the year. >> iran will get a jackpot of

hundreds of billions of dollars which will enable it to continue to pursue it's ae aggression and terror of the region and the world. this as bad mistake of the historic proportions. >> president obama came right back at the prime minister with andrea mitchell today. >> israel is safer. >> historic mistake he says. >> well he said the same thing about the interim agreement. and he was wrong. the fact is that he east frankly been making comments that are way over the top. he doesn't even know what the concessions are that we have not engaged in. because we haven't made concession concessions. so there is a process here. this is under attack by people who really don't know the terms of the the agreement. and they don't offer an alternative. their alternative is what? perpetual state of sanctions? not going to happen. >> kerry also says he has no doubt the agreement will be able

to be enforced. >> i think we have extraordinary accountability, beyond any other agreement we've ever made and iran can be held accountable. >> they have cheated before. they built an underground facility. >> and by the way we discovered it. and that is exactly why we are where we are. >> -- >> but that's exactly why we are where we are. and we'll have inspectors under this agreement continually in iran. there will be an office in iran. they will have daily access to the facilities. >> they have to ask for permission. they can't go anywhere any place, any time. >> there is a process by which they file questions and then get an answer and then -- but at the end we get access. that is the dispute resolution that we negotiated. this cannot go on forever. there is a fixed number of days and the united states always has the ability to goth the security council. we a always have the ability to be able to hold them accountable

in any number of different ways. >> andrea mitchell also spoke to john kerry's iranian counterpart. foreign minister zarif. he said this deal is a beginning for everyone. >> it is opportunity to start a relationship with the best and i hope the united states can exhibit a type of behavior in the implementation of this agreement that can in fact help remove some of the compounded mistrust that has been building mutually, between the two countries over the past many decades. but particularly since the revolution. it is important to see if we can use this opportunity of an agreement that is in the interest of everybody, good for everybody. i don't think this agreement harms anybody. if we can use this agreement in order to start denting that wall of mistrust. >> lots of confidence out there that this is truly a new

beginning. get your cell phones out. tonight's question: do you support the iranian nuclear deal? go to pulse.msnbc.com/ed to cast your vote. and we'll bring you the results later on in the show. for more let me bring in california senator barbara boxer. senator, good to have you with us tonight. i want to go to some of the sound bites that you just heard. daily access. that is what secretary kerry said. that would be easy to verify i mean on a daily basis if they are not honest about what is going on here it is going to be early detected isn't it? >> yes. i mean basically we all said to the state department and to the president we wanted to make sure that there was intrusive inspections. and they have said that this agreement will bring us 24/7 inspections. not only of facilities we know about but any suspicious activity can be followed up. so here is the thing. i'm going read every line of

this bill. there are 100 pages and then there is -- there are other papers coming with it certifications and annexes and so on. and if it is what i think it is which is really taking the framework and putting it into this agreement, this is a historic breakthrough. now, ed, for 35 years we've had essentially no dialogue with iran. it did not help us. it did not help us. they were moving towards a nuclear weapon. as a matter of fact we've learned they could build 10 nuclear weapons. they have enough material. we end that. we say you have to give up 98% of your enriched uranium. and the plutonium, that pathway has within closebeen closed off. it is an historic day. >> there is a great deal of negativity. >> yes. >> we've come a long way since the 70s, no doubt about that. but if there is a jackpot of money out there which bing men

netanyahu referring to he's calling it a mistake of historical proportions. >> he has a right to say that. but he's been against this from minute one and so have my republican friends here. they have been against it before they even saw the framework. they even wrote to the right wing in iran which was devastating. 47 republicans trying to talk the right wing in iran the real bad guys into opposing this. so this is very political, if i might say. and for me here is the situation. if we don't do this today and we walk away what does the future hold? well, it means iran will be more and more isolated. it means that they will in fact build a nuclear weapon. and the end of the day that means confrontation and war because we can't have a nuclear armed iran. so the people who oppose this you need to press them. do you see war with iran? because that is the answer. and i don't see another, you

know, war in the mideast. i think the american people don't want that. >> well the critics who are out and about, they are failing to mention that there are other countries that have signed on to this. this is not a go-it-alone situation for the united states. >> of course. >> but the money, can we trust the iranians that if these billions of dollars that are going to be now access to them are they going to put it in the right place, rebuilding the society or is it going to go to funding terrorism, which they clearly have done? >> well let me just simply say. i don't hold a panacea that they will suddenly become fabulous people. what i want is no nuclear armed iran. and by the way there is a whole other host of sanctions on iran that deal with their support of terrorism. that isn't changed one iota. and our own sanctions as well. so the question is do you want to have an iran that we know is a bad actor and we're not dumb about it they are a bad actor,

do we want them armed with nuclear weapons? and under the bush years is when they started to do all this convert activity. and finally it is going to stop. and as far as the money is concerned it is going to be done very carefully. the sanctions will be lifted carefully. and we'll be able to monitor this? >> do you believe what the republicans are saying that they are going to block this? and of course the president said he would veto anything that could get in the way of this deal. so how big a fight is this going to be in congress? >> it will be a huge fight. but here is what i want to say. unless there is something that i don't know about at this point, unless there is something in there that is different than what the president said i think we're going to win the day. i really do. because ed the option is a terrible one. confrontation, another war in the mideast. and we always have -- we always have the ability to pull back if they do not comply. >> senator boxer, always a pleasure.

thanks so much. for more lacy healey a fellow at the simpson center. and paul eaten, senior adviser at vote vets.org. general eaten you first. your assessment of this it was either this or war. do you really believe that. >> absolutely, ed. and thank you very much for the invitation here and good to see you lacy. it is that. we either achieve a diplomatic outcome here or we're going to have to pursue war. we will not stop the iranians with a warfare option short of occupation of the country. there is no easy military solution. so we either have a very difficult military solution or solve it with our great diplomatic team and the negotiators that we have every right to be proud of. >> lacy where does it go from here? how significant are the details

in this deal? there is a tremendous amount of criticism out there from people who haven't even read it. >> absolutely. there is a tremendous amount of criticism out there. and i would say first generally you are very right. this is very much a choice that we have here. going forward, the iranians will have to prove that they have -- will comply with this agreement. it's very important that sanctions will not begin to be lifted until the iranians have proven they will comply with this agreement. this is the way it is written and it is written in a way that doesn't require us to trust iran it. requires us to verify that iran is complying and that iran is not going to be building a nuclear weapon. so this is really -- the senator is right as well. that is very historic day. >> general eatiteon. do you foresee us having to go -- >> i'm not sure ed. hard to predict. but when you look at the content

of the deal there are three big points that jump out. a 98% reduction in the enriched uranium that the iranians have. a robust inspection schedule that will inform whatever we need do at the united nations security council. that is the biggest point to this whole operation right now. and we have a method of going back full disclosure of military research in the past. so those three big points set us up for seeing clearly into what is going on in iran. and if necessary we can always go to the u.n. security council. >> why do you think the iranians did this? is it to save their country because their infrastructure has crumbled to the point of not even to be able to provide basic services to most of the country? that these sanctions have really handcuffed the country to the point where they had do something? or do they really don't want a

nuclear capability and to be viewed as the threat? what is it? >> i think we have real indications here of why the iranians pursued this deal. president rojany when he was elected ran on a platform of economic improvement. the average iranian is not concerned with building a the nuclear weapon. in fact the original nuclear weapons program that the intelligence agencies have confirmed iran had at one point was built largely in response to the iran/iraq war. now the biggest concern is its economy and people at home. and that is also why we shouldn't be concerned about iran sanctions relief going to fund terrorism or other things. if we've seen the price of oil lately we should know iran's economy is suffering significantly and flooelds this mown. >> and finally on the military's role in this there is going to be some folks in congress reading this that don't know anything about it that are going

to be asking questions. what role does the military play as far as advising officials as far as what the future looks like with this deal? >> what the military does, always, is develop course of action. and we will prepare and we will provide to our elected officials options. and you are going to have a series of options that go from modest to very very robust. the military will provide whatever it is that the president and his national security team will ask of it. and that is what they are doing right now. >> we're talk about unfettered inspections, daily access in a closed society. what about that lacy? >> absolutely. this is an unprecedented verification regime that has been negotiated under this agreement. the iaea will have access to all of iran's nuclear facilities including the nuclear facilities. that was a big concern.

that has been wrapped up. they will be able to access those facilities at any time through a process and really ultimately ensure that iran doesn't make any moves towards a nuclear weapon. >> that is a big change. almost a societal change on how they deal with outside influences for them to function and move forward. if they are cheating we're going to find out early. . follow us on facebook. watch my feature "give me a minute" and you can get my video pod cast at "we got ed.com." >> coming up, we'll have the details.

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stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. of the united states and our allies. so i will veto any legislation that prevents the successful implementation of this deal. >> a few hours after president obama's remarks house speaker john boehner was ready to stop the deal. >> this isn't about democrats and republicans. it is not partisan issue at all. it is about right versus wrong. and we're going to co-everything we can do get to the details and if in fact it is as bad a deal

as i think it is at this moment we'll do everything we can to stop. >> it congress has 60 days to review. from the sound of john boehner it is going to be pretty much a a brutal fight. the fight will continue. >> this proposed deal is a terrible, dangerous mistake that is going to pave the path for iran to get a nuclear weapon while also giving them 10s of billions of dollars of the sanctions relief, even lifting the arms embargo at a time they are destabilizing the entire mideast. >> and here come the 2016 republican presidential candidates weighing in. senator lindsey graham predicted doom and gloom. >> this will be a death sentence over time for israel. you put our nation at risk. every goal the president expressed two years ago has not been met. and you put the arms embargo on the table at a time when they are destroying the mideast

through their conventional weapons program. you think this is a good deal? this is a terrible deal. it is going to make everything worse. and i really fear that we set in motion a decade of chaos. >> last night during scott walk walker's presidential announcement in wisconsin he previewed his iranian policy. >> looking ahead we need to terminate the bad deal with iran on the very first day in office. >> let's not leave out the guy polling pretty well. donald trump. >> the principle is terrible. we have to be able to inspect immediately. immediately. we don't have the right to inspect immediately. any time any where we should be able to go in and inspect. if you don't have that you have nothing because you know the iranians are going to cheat.

>> jeb bush tweeted the nuclear agreement is a dangerous, deeply flawed and short-sighted deal. jonathan you first. a lot of criticism and they haven't read the deal. i think that is a big part of the story right now, isn't it? >> a huge part. i don't think anybody whose responsible should say they are either for it or against it definitively until they have heard the briefing from the negotiator asked some tough questions. this is the way responsible members of congress are supposed to act. just to give you a contrast. in 1978 when jimmy cart ears administration negotiated the panama canal treaty which was very very unpopular. they called all 100 senators and said before you attack this deal even though your constituents don't like it will you hear our briefing? will you let us give you a chance to ask questions?

and then if you want to attack it, fine. but hear our briefing. in 1978 all 100 said yes. think about the change today. >> so the way the senate used to operate, the way it is today. >> today they all jump the gun. they all want to get in front of the cameras, get their sound bites out there. it is not responsible leadership. >> tom cotton is talking as if he was right in on the negotiations. and for lindsey graham who i must say is one of the respected voices in the republican party because of his years on the senate foreign relations committee, he calls it a the death sentence. what is the public supposed to believe? >> if they look at barack obama obama's policy on dealing with regimes like iran and syria. i think they ought to be concerned. while we may not know every part of it people do know lot of

what's in here. and i think people have a very good reason to be concerned. but you are right. he's going to hand it over to congress. they have 60 days to look at it. i hope they take a close look. i hope the president can still make the same allegations. i don't think that is going to hold up. but talk about the discourse. the president has been basically saying what a great partner iran is going to be and at the same time threatens congress with a veto. who's side is he on here? >> please. that is just silly. siding with iran -- >> -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> poisons the debate please. be reasonable. >> he came out first thing in the morning and said that. [ inaudible ] >> of course he had the threat and the via toetoveto. he needed to send a strong message. >> from the president -- [ inaudible ] >> why don't we talk about the deal itself? >> on the politics of it so that

we can get to something reasonable, not comparing him unfavorably to the iranians which doesn't help the debate. on the politics of it. >> i didn't do that. get your facts straight. [ inaudible ] >> i said he was giving the iranians the benefit of the doubt. >> he's not giving them the benefit of the doubt. >> [ inaudible ]. >> what he's saying is let's get real of the about the politics. we know the republicans are all going to oppose this deal. 55 votes in the senate. to over ride they need 13 democrats. i don't think they are going to get them. i think joe manchin's comments today, his initial reaction was fairly supportive. >> the upside is the openness. but as an example just today, you have secretary of state john kerry giving an interview to andrea mitchell saying there are going to be daily inspections. you have donald trump saying

they don't have daily inspections. and i don't think trump has been involved in the negotiations. >> i think what we do know is that we called for negotiations we wanted to have them any time any place. we had to negotiating because the iranians wouldn't agree. we're now down to some time, some places and iranians we have to get their permission still to come in. we also know what their track record is. -- >> okay. this is the critical point. >> [ inaudible ]. >> you're right. >> -- that's got a very bad track record. [ inaudible ] >> excuse me you are right that the inspections details are the critical point. this is why until i've read it i can't myself commit support for the deal. but you also don't know. you don't know either. excuse me can i just finish? >> [ inaudible ]. -- you were willing to take sides on everything even though you hadn't read that either. but on this one you're willing to take the administration's thinking on there, their word

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and for mission control, the anticipation continues. >> i am feeling a little bit nervous but i have absolute confidence that it is going to do what it needs to do to collect that science and it is going turn around and send us that burst of data and tell us that it is okay. >> it is an all day wait for that confirmation, a signal that the spacecraft survived its close encounter with pluto a moment nine years plus in the making. new horizons launched in january 2006. >> it was the fastest rocket of any kind launched off of the earth. it only took nine hours to get to the distance of the moon. where our apollo astronauts spend three days flying there. nine hours to the moon but nine years to pluto. the navigation itself a fete of science and engineering. >> this is the equivalent of standing on the tee box somewhere here near the capitol, striking a ball and making a

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rock. and probably more ice than we originally thought. so studying these objects in the solar system tell us about how the solar system formed. also it can tell us how the elements on earth came to right side here. where did the water come from? the atmosphere come from? and also as we explore the outer reaches it prepares us for humans to leave the solar system and explore other worlds around other stars. >> now the surface of pluto, what are the expectations? complete ice? and what would we learn from that? >> well the answer is no expectation. because we've never been there. we just don't know. and if we look at the icy bodies we see in the solar system say for example the icy moons in the moon europa they are different from each other. sometimes they have a smooth surface. sometimes they have cracks. sometimes they have activity we didn't expect. and of course just about every body is cratered but if there

are current activities that could cover the craters. and what we're seeing right now is a mixture. some smooth but definitely a lot of cratering. >> would we be able to understand its formation some day you think just how pluto became pluto? >> it's part of a system. there are five other bodies. it likes like there was a large collision and these bodies reconstituted to form the current bodies. but now we're going to have a lot of more data and evidence to really understand how the system came into existence. >> and how close will the machine get to pluto? >> it is going to be a few thousand kilometers tens of thousands of kilometers above pluto pluto. but that is closer than anything has ever come. so we should get really sharp images on order of 100 meters or so on the surface. and that is going to be a view that we've never seen. >> professor akeem, thanks for

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welcome back to the "ed show." hillary clinton was working capitol hill today. attending a series of closed door meetings with congressional democrats. and one major issue clinton and other folks are facing is immigration. congress just hasn't been able to wrestle that properly. she met with members of the hispanic caucus. and clinton and donald trump have been having a war of words. trump is under fire for his comments about undocumented mexican immigrants. earlier today trump attacked clinton's presidential run. >> she'll be a terrible president. she was a terrible secretary of state. the world fell apart during his reign. if she becomes president, she's

be terrible. and she pout a statement she she doesn't like my tone. >> on monday she gave trump a message in spanish. >> i have just one world for mr. trump, basta. enough. >> trump attempted to clarify his statements on mexico earlier today. >> if the government of mexico can send their criminals -- i love the mexican people by the way. i have great relationships. ive had great respect. and you know what? i've employed thousands of mexicans over the years. great people. hard workers, unbelievable spirit. >> senator lindsey graham says trump's comments are making matters worse. >> this is a defining moment in the future of the republican party. we can't worry about what donald trump might do. we have to focus on what we should do. and as a party we should reject what he says because it is not true. and if we don't reject it we've

lost the moral authority in my view to govern this country. >> joining me tonight -- great to have you with us tonight. congressman, what is your interpretation of hillary clinton's meeting today? what was said? what was the mission? >> i think the meeting with the progressive caucus was forthright. members asked specific questions, climate change education, immigration, privacy detention centers. also talked about issues like criminal justice and the enhances of social security. straight answers back to the members. it was a meeting in which i felt and many of the members felt that the issue of an economic agenda, income inequality wage

disparity were the first points that the secretary made with us. an economic agenda different from what we've been seeing here in congress. and certainly a move in a good direction on the part of the secretary. >> what about the timing of this? bernie sanders seems to be a competitor that no one really anticipated, the way he's polling and the crowds he's getting. is this as much a political move and move to get on the right foot with congress? because on the other hand president obama really hasn't had the best relations or warm and fuzzies with the democrats on capitol hill. what about all that? >> progressive, many of us feel like we've been out at wilderness for a wild. talking about the issues of the economy, jobs, the issues of empowerment and issues of investment and good reform and immigration and healthcare.

the fact that bernie not only spoke of those issues but understand that it is resonating with the public. and i think the secretary has heard that too and is responding to it. >> annette tedeo, a lot of people think that donald trump is doing the democrats a huge favor in making it much easier to talk about immigration. in fact the candidate that you are running against for congress down in florida says that trump is a democratic plot to make the gop look stupid. what is your reaction there? >> well i think what we need is leadership. and as latinos we don't need all of these theories about a phantom candidate, that are lewd cris. krauss. ludicrous. but he need candidates who will stand up and say actually this is not right. it shouldn't have taken jeb bush three weeks, my opponent three

weeks. it shouldn't take people having to ask them what they think about what donald trump said. because it is horrible what he said. but also what we're seeing as a difference where, you know, we're actually speaking the language as democrats, that hispanics want to hear which is the language that we speak. we want to talk about economic opportunity for everybody. we want to talk about the issues that matter to us. and it is not just immigration although that is a very important issue and a huge difference between a pathway to citizenship and those that just want to create second class citizens. >> and congressman, explain your thoughts when you here donald trump talk about mexico illegal immigrants coming into the country and what we are or are not doing about it and have that with the back drop about what it does for the democrats in the conversation if anything. >> donald trump the albatross around the republican party's neck right now.

and the fact that other candidates are afraid to or unwilling to take him on says a lot. marginalize a group of people and sew fear and hate in the electorate to people vote. that is donald trump is a caricature, dangerous to the republican party and dangerous to the whole discussion of what this country needs to be going. he is playing the same song that has been played in three elections with regard to immigrants. and i don't think it -- i don't think that tune is going to play. and i think that one horse -- one horse pony one tune is not going to win this election in the future. >> congressman thank you. still do come. scott walker goes under the microscope.

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and finally tonight scott walker is in. the conservative golden boy announced his candidacy for president on monday. governor walker is entering the ring with a 41% approval rating in his state of wisconsin. walker struggled to pass a budget and let his state job to 38th for job creation in the nation. he believes his far-right policies are something to boast about. here's the ledger. scott walker is running on. >> since i've been governor we took on the unions and we won. we lowered taxes by $2 billion. in fact we lowered taxes on individuals, on employers, and property owners. property taxes today are lower than they were four years ago. how many other governors can say that? we passed lawsuit reform and regulatory reform. we passed pro-life legislation,

people are required to be signed up for one of our training programs. and now we make the same requirement to make sure people can pass a drug test and we now require a photo i.d. to vote in this state. >> joining me tonight is state representative peter barker, minority leader in the wisconsin state assembly who wrote an op op-ed countering what mr. walker has been talking about. now, mr. barker if you listen to what he said he sounds like the perfect ultra conservative vision of where the republicans would like to have the world all about. is it accurate? >> well that's been his goal the last four and a half years was to make us the most right-wing extreme state in the nation, and he succeeded in many important ways for the

right-wing conservative movement much to the chagrin of the hard-working citizens that get up every day and go to work in wisconsin. >> so is he going to be able to put away or put aside a 41% approval rating and go out across the country and sell what he just says his resume is? >> well it's remarkable normally presidential candidates are people enormously popular in their hope state and can cite reforms and changes that help to lift up their state to put people to work create a great number of jobs improve education, all of those priority items people truly care about especially in a state like wisconsin, one of the best in the nation if not one of the best in the world and he proposed cutting it by a third of a billion. he cut education by over $1.6 billion or took $1.6 billion out

of education and proposed deeper cuts this time. he's decimated people's ability to make a living wage as he passed things like right-to-work and prevailing wage laws that will definitely make it harder for people to make a living here in wisconsin. that's why he's very unpopular. >> from a conservative standpoint that's the perfect mix, what the republicans are looking for on a national level. i would venture to say walker has achieved more to destroy his state than probably any other governor. he has more of a ledger of accomplishment or would you disagree? >> no i wouldn't disagree. in terms of those people who want to see america become a far right wing nation he's their guy. he uses words like i dropped the bomb, i've taken away poem's right to bargain, words like i want to divide and conquer people.

he's not that type of person at all. as george w. bush said he's not a un fire. he's a divider. >> a statement calling walker a national disgrace. how does that -- how does he expect working americans, i guess is the question, to get behind his union busting tactics? we all know that unions have been under attack. it seems to be the popular thing to do. he does take it in his state. >> absolutely. it was ask me first but he did divide and conquer, at least that was his goal. and then he went after the private sector unions with right to work. he took away most of the prevailing wage in the state which means construction workers are going to have a harder time making a living and a big editor editorial in "the milwaukee sentinel." >> wisconsin state representative peter barker

good to have you with us. when i was on vacation i saw my first political bumper sticker in the state of minnesota. why go half crazy? and that's "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. tonight on "politics nation a passionate president obama making the case to change our criminal justice system to make it more fair and is gaining support from both sides. also tonight a historic deal on iran's nuclear program and surprise-surprise. republicans come out attacking. jeb bush hits the campaign trail today.