was launched in january of 2006 taking over nine years to make the 3 billion mile journey to pluto. already measurements from the dwarf planet indicate that pluto is bigger than originally thought. roughly two-thirds the size of the earth's moon. good evening americans and welcome to the "ed show." live from new york. let's get to work. tonight deal defense. >> diplomats will tell you sign of good deal is nobody is happy. >> this deal is our best means of assuring that iran does not get a nuclear weapon. >> if the president likes this deal go and sell it but sell it honestly. don't lie to the american people. >> more money and more weapons, not a good deal. >> iran has scored a tremendous victory. they are given their yellow cake and eat it too. >> later, trump trumping. >> a big surge for dronld trump.

>> 33% saying they view him favorably. >> i just go with what's right. >> and pluto paolooza. >> pluto is getting its close up. thanks for watching. by start with the president making the case to the american people on the iranian nuclear deal. of course pushback from crit irks continues as president obama was selling hard today and selling this agreement harder than i've ever seen before. this man was confident, determined and ready to present the case. the president held a press conference earlier today. president obama had some straight talk for opponents of the agreement. >> we don't have diplomatic leverage to eliminate every

vestage of a peaceful nuclear program in iran. but we do have the leverage to do is to make sure they don't have a weapon. that is exactly what we've done. to go back to congress i challenge those who are objecting to this agreement, number one, to read the agreement before they comment on it. number two, to explain specifically where it is that they think this agreement does not prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon. and why they are right and people like ernie monise whose an mit nuclear physicist and expert in these issues is wrong, why the rest of the world is wrong and then present opinionan alternative. and if the alternative is that we should bring iran to heel through military force, then those critics should say so. >> and netanyahu hasn't been shy

from day one. he told this poses a threat to not only israel but the united states. >> we think this is not merely a threat to us but a threat to you as well. just five days ago the so called moderate president of iran was at a rally in teheran in which they burned american flags chanting death to america. iran has killed more americans than anyone other than al qaeda. iran is building intercontinental ballistic missiles to reach not us but every part of the united states. and the streamupreme leader says the battle with the united states will continue even after the deal. to them we are the little satan. you are the big satan. and now i think they are being empowered to conduct that battle. and i think that this is bad for us, for you and the world. >> and there is a big concern about verification. the israeli prime minister also

expressed serious concerns about the inspections being reliable. >> i think they have two paths to the bomb. one is if they keep the deal and the other is if they cheat on the deal. they can cheat because the inspections are not instantaneous anywhere any time as foreign minister as iran za zarit. and you have not even within 24 hours. you are 24 days before you inspect a site. can you imagine giving a drug dealer 24 days notice before you check the premises. that is a lot of time to flush a lot of meth down the toilet. >> seems to me the israeli prime minister's comments were definitely heard in the white house. the president came out pretty determined to set the record straight. he countered netanyahu's argument the press conference. >> as for the pact that it may take 24 days to finally get access to the site the nature of nuclear programs and

facilities is such this is not something you hide in a closet. this is not something you put on a dolly and wheel off somewhere. and by the way, if we identify an undeclared site that we're suspicious about, we're going to be keeping eyes on it. so we're going to be monitoring who the activity is. and that is going to be something that will be evidence. by the way if there is nuclear material on that site, you know your high school physics will remind us that that leaves a trace. and so we'll know. >> republicans have been extremely critical of the deal and most are universal opposed. now it looks like some key democrats are skeptical of the deal. political reports roughly a dozen senate democrats could vote against the agreement. they include senators dick

durbin, chuck shoom schumer. chris coons and tessler. i want to make sure whatever we agree to has verification that it is going to happen. and joe biden was on capitol hill rallying support among congressional democrats today. saudi arabia issued a warning today to iran. the saudis said iran should use the money from sanctions being lifted to improve the lives of iranians rather than using them to cause turmoil in the region, a matter that will meet a decisive reaction from the nations of the region. so you have the israelis and the arabs. the arab world in some cases aligned on this? interesting dichotomy, isn't it? ? recent years the arab world has been fighting proxy wars in yemen and syria. in yemen iran has been

supporting the shia houthi rebels. and saudi arabia has been backing the yemeni government. and many fear iran will use its money to fund the war and conflict. meanwhile dick cheney giving his opinion. >> he's in fact sanctioned the nuclearification by iran. it's a matter of monthsing in we're going to see situation where other people feel they have to defend themselves by acquiring their own capability and that will in fact i think put us closer to the use, actual use of nuclear weapons than we've been at any time since hiroshima and nagasaki and world war ii. >> is it a leap of faith to trust them now? do we have go the? it seems to me from the press conference today the president wanted one objective and that was to make sure that the iranians were not going to get a nuclear weapon within the next

15'5" years. so can he put up the mission accomplished banner? what happens after that? the president in a very detailed press conference today explained other situations involving this deal, the devil in the details, that will hold iran off from getting nuclear capability. it was almost as if the president wanted to have a chris christie two hour press conference. he was anxious to talk and didn't want to leave the podium. but he's got a schedule to keep. that was the impression i got. he was determined to sell. can he sell it to congress. get your cell phones out. i want to know. tonight's question: did president obama convince you this is a good deal? pulse.msnbc.com/ed, cast your votes. we'll bring the results later in the show. colonel lawrence willis and the colon powell and gentlemen, great to have you with us.

colonel, the president i don't want to say he was selling hard today but he just seemed so determined to make sure that everybody pays attention to the facts. from what you know this is clearly a very focused deal on a nuclear program and it doesn't seem to go outside of that at all dealing with resources and what the iranians are going to do with it or other things. is this a good deal in your opinion? can this work? >> could there be a better deal ed? yes there probably could. could there be a worse? yes probably could. is this deal one we're going to work with. is it -- and this is the key issue in my mind. is it a better alternative than war which is the only other alternative to assure us of stopping iran's nuclear program? yes. so those answers alone make what the president did today the right course of action in my view. and let me just say that i love

what dick cheney said. iran had a nuclear capability when i was serving george w. bush in 2001, 2 3 4 and 5. they had a course of centrifuges at that time. and over the course of the presidency they gained some 19,000 centrifuges. this puts an arrest to that if you will along with other key factors of their program. they have always had the nuclear capability. they have a nuclear capability now. it is nuclear weapons that we don't want them to get and that is what this agreement is focused on. >> how importantly is it that the other country sies involvement in this the 5 p plus 1 that they are commit thod all of this. as president obama. i don't see putin out there. i don't see the chinese out

there. like the focal point of all of this this colonel is coming from the president obama. >> i know yi was very adamant to get it on with. i think it's very important these other countries are involved in this deal and are going to be a part of this deal. one of the opposition members, if you will that i talk with today, a more sane one. more sane and sober one, said to me, well, you know, we've got to be able to bring the sanctions back and so forth. and i said to him, without the chinese, the french t germans, the british and others involved in this you are never going to get the sanctions back. you are never going to get them tight and you are never going to get them to snap back the way the agreement calls for. so these people are very important to this. we need to stay together on this. we need to be cohesive and

unified. we are at the present time. i don't see any reason that if we carry out our part of the deal that we can't stay that way. >> i got the real impression the president knows this deal. he knows the detail of it all. and he's willing to move forward as the best available option. so what is the best available move now for these countries that have been involved in this? the best available move forward to make sure that this works? are those mechanisms in place? that is really i think where the american people are. how do you know we can trust the iranians at this point? >> yeah well, you know, the president has the benefit of the facts being on his side. he's going up against critics with some terrific one-liners and very often in america, the one-liners win. look at sarah palin and debt panels. completely fals lyly false but that one-liner dominated the debate.

i think the president is actually on the defensive a bit right now. and he feels it. and that is why you saw the passion and commitment in his discussion today. he understands the opposition is going all out to kill this deal. and he knows what a terrible mistake this would be. look, on the expert level nuclear policy experts overwhelmingly support this deal. the facts are there. this is a solid win for american national security. this is the best maybe the only way to stop iran from getting the bomb. what you have now is this political fight that's taking place where people are coming in and saying things that are simply untrue. for example it is not true that it takes you 24 days to be able to inspect any site in iran that we consider suspicious. >> well let me offer this to you. benjamin netanyahu is going to sell hard to the american congress. is he lying or does he just not know the detail? this is what he's going to be saying to the lindsey grahams

and the john boehners of the world and i'm sure he'll end up in their face trying to push back on this thing in the next 60 days. >> what does he mean that iran has killed more americans than anyone besides al qaeda? what is he talking about? the sunnis in iran killed americans. the taliban in afghanistan killed americans. both of those groups are sworn enemies of iran. i just don't understand what he thinks he's saying there. the inspection process outlined in this agreement is a very rigorous comprehensive inspection agreement, better than any non proliferation agreement i've ever seen. what we now have to do is get this agreement in place and then put the weight of the world behind implementing it to ensure that iran can never build a nuclear bomb. >> and colonel, your reaction to the lifting of the ballistic missile ban. on eight years. does that really matter? are we kicking the can down the road here?

>> this is a nonsensical argument. let's just face the facts as joe just pointed out. we've got more nuclear weapons than anybody else in the world save the russians. we are roughly equal. israel has at least 100, maybe 200, maybe 300. if iran were to do anything with an icbm there is no forensics necessary. you know who shot an icbm. if iran were to do that teheran would disappear. deterrence works. it will work here. >> all right. stay with us. we got a lot more to talk about on this. remember to answer tonight's question at pulse.msnbc.com/ed. we'll have the results after this break. follow us on facebook. appreciate that. you can watch my feature "give me a minute" on facebook and get my video pod cast at wegoted.com

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billions to spend. your people seem confident they are going to spend it at home. why are you confident they are not going to spend it on arming hezbollah and bashar al-assad and etc. >> great question and i'm glad you brought it up. i think it is a mistake to characterize our belief that they will just spend it on day care centers roads and paying down debt. we think that they have to do some of that because rojany was elected specifically on the premise of improving the economic situation inside of iran. that economy has tanked since we imposed sanctions. so the notion that they are just immediately going to turn over 100 billion dollars to the irgc or the cuds force. i think runs contrary to all the intelligence that we've seen and the commitments that the iranian

government has made. do we think that with the sanctions coming down that iran will have some additional resources for its military and for some of activities in the region that are a threat to us and a threat to our allies? i think that is a likelihood. that they have got some additional resources. do i think it is a game changer for them? no. they are currently supporting hezbollah. and there is a ceiling, a pace at which they could support hezbollah even more. particularly in the chaos that is taking place in syria. so can they potentially try to get more assistance there? yes. should we put more resources into blocking them from getting that assistance to hezbollah?

yes. is the incremental additional money that they have got to try to destabilize the region or send to their proxies, is that more important than preventing iran from getting a nuclear weapon? no. >> and let's bring back colonel lawrence wilson and. this is a real sticking point for the forensics of this deal. there is going to be a wind fall of cash. and it is their resources. we are not giving them anything as the president pointed that out today. this is money that has been blocked, frozen isolated. and now this money is going to go right back to the iranian regime. colonel, how much of a problem is this? and the president didn't use the word escalate but he did say they could use more resources to

stop the iranians from spending money on hezbollah and also bringing more terrorism in the region. your thoughts on that. >> let me just keel with the complexity of this issue in one facet for a moment. syria, horrible war going on there. more refugees than any other situation since world war ii. approaching 5 million i'm told now, internal and external. destabilizing jordan destabilizing lebanon and so forth. we should want to put an end to this. we are not going to put an end to this without iran i assure you. we made a horrible mistake thinking bashar al-assad was mubarak and that he'd be gone shortly just as mubarak was. he wasn't. he's there to stay and there needs to be a political solution. it will not be achieved without iran. so that argument about funding hezbollah is nonsense. >> people in iran last night were celebrating this deal.

when zarif got back he was treated like a hero. there are different ways to interpret this. but i'm going take this angle. the expectations seem to be pretty high by the iranian people right now that they want to see their lives changed. in fact in many parts of iran they would probably like to is some running water and some electricity. if they don't spend this money on the iranian people couldn't there be some public pressure that could lead to real problems for the regime? >> well this is exactly what the supreme leader is worried about. he doesn't want the exuberance over this agreement to translate into anti regime sentiment. this is why the hard-liners in iran oppose this deal. they don't want to get closer to the west. they don't want the opening. they don't want these western companies coming in and forging greater ties with their people. why are these people demonstrating in the streets?

it is not because they are celebrating some great nuclear victory over the great satan. no. they see this as a ray of hope. >> as a beginning. they want what we have. they have tvs. they have the internet. they see how we live. that is what they want. and they are hoping that this will be an effort an opening for implementation of domestic reforms rojany campaigned on. to help restore the economy they desperately need to improve. >> what card do they play in this the iranian people? >> i agree with joe. the reason rohani was elected was to improve the life of the average iranian and if he doesn't deliver on that he's not going to be row elected. he's not going to be powerful in this term. he's got deliver. i'm not saying that some money is not going to be diverted to other purposes. of course it will. but most of this is going to have to be used to satisfy the

promises he made in his campaign. >> and finally, the reaction of saudi arabia telling the iranians what to do with their new resources. joe, your thoughts? >> >> they are nervous and this ises understandable. they are nervous about the new dynamic that is developing. they are afraid at that if we get closer to iran it will be at their expense. that is why it is our job diplomatly to assure our allies we are not going to be trading their friendship for a new friendship with iran at the same time. we can have relationships with multiple states in the region. >> and how do we know the russians don't become arms dealers to the iranians. >> i'm more worried about the french. they are already there inking contracts.

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and we are back on the "ed show." thanks for watching tonight. you can't deny it. donald trump is still on a roll on a rise in the polls. the reality tv star is now number one among republican voters according to the latest national poll.

57% give the donald a positive favorability rating. among both parties his popular doubled, doubled, in the past two months. his favorability rating was only 16% back in may. his inflammatory remarks about undocumented immigrants cost him some business deals. he said it couldn't cost him votes. >> i'll win the latino vote. >> that is one for the archives. the numbers aren't on his side. negative views of trump have jumped among latinos. 81%. well, they are not fans. so he's so unpopular with hispanic voters that a republican congressman thinks that trump could be a part of a plot to harm the republican party. representative carlos corbo brkscorbello says. >> i contribute to everybody.

when i need hillary she was there. if i say go to my wedding they go to my wedding. i contribute to everybody. and do you know what? that's part of the problem with our system. because they are going to do for me and all their donors things that aren't necessarily good for the country. >> donald trump has been taking shots from the start of his campaign. he says his wealth makes him a pure candidate. saying he's worth in excess of $10 billion. the guy is in the polls. he has approximatethe money. he doesn't have to raise it. he is the republican nightmare thanks to citizens united. joining me tonight is henry fernandez a senior fellow at the center for american progress action fund. and mike papanotio and heidi harris. question gotwe got a lot to go on

here. i think as long as trump can keep it interesting he's in for the long haul. he's got the money, the tv moxey. he seems to transact -- look at this way. ted cruz came and talked to donald trump and that is the best publicity cruz has had in two weeks. >> trump is the new face of the gop culture wars. everything he's trying to accomplish absolutely meet wirss with their approval. even if they outwardly claim. they are all participating in this message which is right now ignore the wrath of latinos. we don't need them anyway. we can win with angry old white guys alone. the message donald trump has been developing on immigration is amessage akin to. it worked in france ed. big sweep. antiimmigration came in and they are still in power.

>> what about that heidi? is this becoming a real problem for the rubble cab party? he's been told to tone it down. that ain't gonna work. and he's pretty much winging it. it is a feel game for him now. what is it for the republicans. >> i they the republicans need to change the narrative. had a conversation on the way over here with a guy whose the son of immigrants. and i asked would you like your teenage daughter now to be competing with kids brought her illegally. you were born here. she's latino. and he said i never thought of it that way. that is the message that the right needs to push for latinos. it is hurting your children to have this competition. that is the issue. and nobody wants to talk about that. donald trump does. he talks about bringing jobs. i'm not defending everything he said. he would have been better with the way hi put things. but this is an competing for

people taking jobs. that is what the rnc needs to push. >> do you think trump is on to something when paraphrasing here representing or ignites the silent majority. >> i think he is. i think a lot of people feel this way. i just think we need to push the narrative towards the latitudenos and saying hey wait a minute it is going to benefit you too if there is a limit to how many people can come in and compete with your jobs. i think people are liking him more because here afraid to say things. to are other candidates are afraid to say this. >> i don't think that is based in any kind of polling. donald trump, if we were -- if the general election was today donald trump would lose for the republican party against the democratic party front runner would lose by the largest amount based on polling, the largest amount of any presidential

candidate from a major party in the history of the united states. this isn't about tinkering at the edges. this is doom. if donald trump stays in this and continues to drive these messages, we can expect that the problem won't just be for the republican party on the presidential ticket. they will see this have ramifications in the congress and senate. >> that was how i started the block. what is going to happen to keep him out? he's got the money, he's got the flair, he's got the flamboyant. >> right. he knows how to get attention. and i think today ted cruz going over there seeing him there was as much about cruz getting attention as it was anything else. >> andunless republican party leaders stand up and say no donald trump. not just to donald trump. let's understand how we got here. john boehner and leadership in the house have been willing to let folks like steve king the absolute extremeists define their

party. that is why republican voters think it is okay because they are not hearing different things from leadership. >> would he bring out more latinos than ss in the general? in the primaries. >> i think he's going to do well by the democratic party. no question. we haven't seen anyone poll at this level of lack of support among latinos. all of the polling shows unlike what your guest said. all of the polling says that latinos. this is a make or break issue. and simply if donald trump continues to speak for the republican party and other republican leaders don't come out and do what actually jeb bush did and say this is unacceptable, this is going to be a huge problem for republican party to cycle. >> and mike this unvarnished approach that trump has backed

one a billion. and no one's really gotten an answer how much are you willing to spend to be the president? that really is -- that would be my first question to him. we know you got more than $10 billion. 20, 25% to be the president? what about that? that is nightmare for republicans. >> he can drive this message. but i'm not so quick to say that the republicans don't want this message. they relied on old man bush for this kind of message. he used the willie horton race card. the welfare korean race card to rally the old angry white underbelly of the republican party. i really do have the feeling that this is what he thinks this is going to appeal. it is appealing. that is why you have this outrage that we're seeing from the republicans. so i think what he's doing is rallying them even though you may have leadership saying gee this is horrible for us. the truth is they have done their homework. they understand the immigration message has legs in the united

states. they don't have to look far. just like i said before. strong anti immigrant political platform that took place. the national front you might remember. aggressive anti muslim immigrant party was swept into power in france just a little over a year ago. they had one message. close the borders. and they kept saying it and saying it. >> okay. henry, mike heidi, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. still to come. new horizons phones home with stunning new images of pluto. we'll discuss the scientific significance of this nasa mission ten years in the making. hi my name's josh. kelly. my name is raph. steve. my name is anne. tom. brian. krystal. and i am definitely not a robot. i'm one of the real live attorneys you can talk to through legalzoom. whether it's for your business or your personal life, don't let unanswered legal questions hold you up. because we're here. we're here we're here

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>> and finally tonight, you know, i think if you're not impressed by this you're a pretty tough customer you're hard to impress. nasa is celebrating a remarkable achievement today, a historic mission to pluto. a short time ago, nasa released new clear images of pluto's

first-ever close-up. >> i don't think any one of us could have imagined that it was this good of a toy store. [ laughter ] >> this is what we came for. [ laughter ] >> this exceeds what we came for. >> pluto is so far away a radio signal takes about nine hours to get there and back. from pluto, the sun appears to be a tiny star lost in the milky way. the craft was launched in 2006 costed $723 million. it's traveled a staggering 3 billion miles in nine and a half years. with this achievement, the united states is now the first country to reach all the planets within our solar system. professor of physics at city university of new york and author of the book "the future of the mind" is with us tonight. thank you. >> glad to be on the show. >> how much can we learn from a close-up picture?

>> an awful lot. this is the space spectacular of the decade. we thought pluto would be a dead planet like the moon. we don't see craters, look at that. we don't see craters on pluto. parts are as smooth as a baby's bottom. how can that be unless the surface was resurfaced a few million years ago? we believe pluto was gee logically active and that upsets all our understanding of these objects. they're not frozen solid at all. they'll probably have geysers, volcanoes and they're gee logically active. >> how much can we learn from these pictures and what is the next step? we found out a lot about these pictures, but what would be the next step? >> the next step is to go zooming into the comet, the kuiper belt of comets because there are dangerous objects which could hit the earth. we think a comment slammed into mexico 65 million years ago,

killing the dinosaurs. remember, the dinosaurs did not have a space program, they had no way to deflect that comet. we do. and pluto is the largest object in the belt of comets. >> did you ever think you'd see this in your career in your lifetime? >> no. when i was a kid, i thought in my lifetime i would never see pictures if three billion miles into outer space, but there they are, in living color, detailed photographs of the surface showing that it's young, and been resurfaced a few hundred million years ago. >> so the text books are going to have to be rewritten, i as opposed to. >> that's right. you're going to have to rewrite all the high school text books, we now have glorious pictures that overturned what we thought. it's an overgrown comet of some sort. if you were to drag it closer to the sun, it would sprout a tail like pluto the dog. >> i'm curious about

temperature, about storms, weather. is there anything like that? would we learn from this mission those kinds of things? >> pluto does not have weather as we know it. however, it does have some kind of atmospheric activity. so we're tantalized by the fact that it violates the usual rules of planetary evolution. we now believe that pluto may be radioactive. that may be the source of energy that drives the resurfacing of the planet. maybe we'll see geysers just like on some of the moons of jupiter. >> all right, everybody wants to know. life, is there a possibility there could be life on pluto? >> i don't think so. first, we have to answer the question, is there intelligent life on the earth? obviously not. [ laughter ] >> so is there intelligent life in the universe? >> we don't see any evidence yet, but who knows. >> water? >> we see water in the form of ice. ice mountains that are two miles tall on pluto.

astronauts may one day melt some of that ice to get rocket fuel for perhaps a return journey. >> interesting you think there's radioactive material there. >> well, why is the earth active gee logically? it's because the center of the orth is radioactive. that's what causes the center of the earth to churn and we have continental drift. pluto is radioactive in the center, about you we don't know for sure. >> nine and a half years to get there. what's the next ten years look like on research on this? >> well, the next ten years is going to go sailing into the kiper belt and there's another object out there which is bigger than pluto. sort of like a ninth planet but there are other pluto-like dwarf planets out there that perhaps we'll be able to get a glimpse of. . thank you very much for coming in. fascinating stuff. in our lifetime.

that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. we'll see you tomorrow night. tonight on "politicsnation," the $10 billion candidate, donald trump puts his money where his mouth is finally. >> also bill clinton admits to a bill mistake. it could affect hillary's run for office -- and a key part of president obama's agenda. plus controversial video of a deadly police shooting in california. it's a key test case of officer privacy versus the public's right to know. >> welcome to "politicsnation." we begin tonight with donald trump saying he filed his