we continue to follow breaking news this hour out of chattanooga, tennessee. officials have confirmed that four people as well as the gunman are dead following a shooting spree that spanned two different military facilities late this morning. all four victims were marines. a police officer and two others were wounded according to law enforcement. the attack began at a navy recruiting center and ended nearly 6 miles away at a separate naval reserve center. the four marines were killed and the gunman was shot the shooting is being investigated

as an act of domestic terror. chattanooga mayor andy burke reacted to the news. >> it is incomprehensible to see what happened and the way that individuals who proudly serve our country were treated. two different locations this individual went to. and as a city we will respond to this with every available resource we have. >> joining me now is pete williams who's been working his sources on this story msnbc military analyst retired army colonel jack jacobs. what can you tell us about the shooting at this point? >> the shooting investigation according to the police this gunman acted alone, they say they did not receive any warning he was going to take this action against these two facilities.

they're now trying to figure out what his motive was. although they used this phrase active domestic terrorism, they don't know what his motive was, other than he never, woulded at these two facilities whether he was in the military or not, they're still checking. we've been told that the gunman here, the suspect is a naturalized u.s. citizen from the middle east. we're making an effort to confirm the name. the officials are confident they know who it is they're now conducting a search looking through this individual's background to try to figure out what may have been the motive here. on everyone's mind is the possibility that this could be in response to these repeated relentless aggressive social media postings by isis urging people to attack people in the united states who wear a uniform, who work for the military or work at government buildings, all of whom would be consistent with these two

targets. whether it was that or some individualized think we just don't know. at this point, the authorities aren't sure either but they hope to have that figured out very shortly. >> this is a big development, naturalized u.s. citizen from the middle east. do we know where he was based? there was some talk earlier that he may have been from the area do we have any confirmation on that? >> the authorities said at the time they thought he lived in the area beyond that i don't know. >> let's go to the question of domestic terror the fact that this is being tossed out so early in the investigation. what do you draw from that? >> well you know like pete said it's too early to know these are new facts if the motive went that way, it would be called internationally inspired terrorism. we don't know if that's the answer certainly a possibility. the fbi director has commented about these guys having the

devil talking in their ear constantly to go kill kill kill. it could play out that way, it's one possibility. i think we have to wait and see. but it issage unusual situation to attack the military in two separate locations. why are you attacking the military. there's only so many reasons to do this certainly people who are mentally incapacitated. there can be workplace violence. certain people who are targeted at the military. for revenge, if a person was fired or not allowed into the military kicked out of the military. there's all kinds of motives here. we'll have to see if they pan out, is it someone who was inspired by the active push on social media that none of us get away from any more we have it with us. and it's a very very powerful push to people who motivated that way. i think it's unclear at this point. it may develop in the next few

hours. tennessee authorities, and federal authorities know they have a good idea. if he's the only actor and he's deceased. then they probably will make a fairly quick determination to release that information. if there's no other players afoot. it can really aid law enforcement and the public to realize whatever the motive is so they can guard against another one. >> pete, do we have any more information on the shooter? >> well we can now confirm the name the authorities are investigating here is mohammed yousef abdel aziz he's a naturalized sit again of kuwait. someone who is from kuwait who is a naturalized citizen. we don't have an age on this person. but as we discussed earlier we believe he's from the area. and they're now searching through his background to see what might have been the motive. they're still undecided whether this was merely a crime or

something more. >> the fact that he may have been a naturalized. we're hearing he's a naturalized citizen from kuwait. does that expand the scope of this from domestic to international terrorism? >> not by itself, no. >> let me go over to colonel jacobs, we know this attack took place in two locations. a navy recruiting center and naval reserve center, what can you tell us about the security -- those types of outlets and what you would expect to find? >> the short answer is, there is none. in one case, we had a recruiting station in a storefront which is where a lot of them are, by the way in a strip mall you may have one or two noncommissioned officers in a small office it's easily accessible as you can see. there's no guard or anything like that. the people inside are not armed. over at the national guard center security is typically

not significantly higher it's not like being at ft. brag ft. hood or ft. benning or something like that, where you had a huge enclosure set off by everywhere else limited access by road where there are guard shacks with armed guards who frequently check i.d.'s and also vehicles when people are coming in make you open your trunk and all the rest of that stuff, which are fairly secure. you're talking in this case of totally and completely unsecured, insecure locations. don't forget these are citizens soldiers by and large, and they are among the people. they're at the cutting edge for want of a better term. and they're of the people they serve.

these are unsecured locations. people in the community. and there's no way that you're going to be able to secure them. >> let me follow up on that in terms of military bases broadly. given the threats that have cropped up on social media in recent weeks and months. has security been stepped up? >> yes, if you go to certain locations where there is a higher level of security. you may discover the following. i'm talking about military posts where there is civilian ago session where people come to visit from time to time. usually they will let you through just by showing your driver's license. but when there is a higher state of security they'll have a special lane for people who do not have military i.d.'s and do not have department of gee fence stickers on their vehicles and the special lane requires you to

get out of your vehicle, they'll inspect your vehicle front and back, make you open up the trunk, sometimes the hood of the car, and have a reflective mirror so they can look under the vehicle and frequently they'll have dogs bomb sniffing dogs to go over the vehicle. when security is heightened at these kinds of installations, it's very high. let me go back to jim carvin awe. we're hearing the attack was executed with an automatic weapon. what can you tell us about that information as it pertains to the wounded? >> i think the colonel talked about that earlier. in the public arena, people misdonl through weapons and talk about automatic weapons semiautomatic weapons. not to get into too deep detail on that but very briefly, fully automatic weapon is a weapon that fires the whole magazine with a single pull of the trigger. you pull the trigger and the

whole -- it's called the submachine gun. sub meaning be cared by one person. a semiautomatic fires one round for each pull of the trigger. we don't know which one this was. we don't know if it was a rifle or a handgun many look at the four marines dead and the witness description of the loud noises. we think possibly it could be a semiautomatic rifle. at least it could be a fully automatic rifle. the major thing, though is the develop os tut of the round. you get into a rifle, you are talking about a muzzle velocity that's coming out like a flying drill bit. it's 3200 feet per secretary out of a standard 223 cart ridge. maybe 2400 feet we see all over the world. it's like a flying drill bit. it's a tremendous wound that hits you. you don't have immediate medical

care it's a devastating wound. it's hard to imagine how awful these wounds can be we have four dead marines and if he was firing a shoulder fired weapon maybe in a marking lot, in an open area we don't have that information. at the recruit center he looked like he was firing inside the building. that may have saved people inside the recruit center he doesn't have an exact target a line of site on them as individuals. rather he was shooting at the front glass and no one was killed at that location. if he caught some people out in the open on the campus at the naval reserve center it might have been a different story. he could have shot into a crowd. he could have shot individual people walking and shot into a car. we don't have the data. it's devastating wounds. >> we're going to leave it there and take a quick break. for those who missed it at the top of the hour the news we have right now, the suspected

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we have more breaking news this afternoon, the jury has reached a verdict in the trial of accused aurora movie shooter james holmes. the verdict will be read at 6:15 p.m. eastern. 27-year-old holmes stands accused of walking into a

colorado movie theater shortly after midnight on july 20th and opening fire holmes has never denied his role in the killing. he has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. the case made during closing arguments on tuesday. >> mr. holmes stepped into that theater on july 20th 2012. >> we can't separate the mental illness from him or his crime because the mental illness is the reason the sole reason that this crime took place. >> according to prosecutors, the shooting was a calculated attack. >> this guy walked into that theater and tried to murder everyone in it. that guy was saying beyond a

wrnl doubt, and he needs to be held accountable for what he did. >> if holmes is convicted he would face the death penalty or life in prison without the probability of parole. joining me now is scott holmes. >> we know there have been multiple psychiatric evaluation as during the course of this trial. >> there's been a great deal of evidence that played to the emotions of this jury over time testimony from survivors, testimony from first responders graphic photos of the carnage that james holmed unleashed almost exactly three years ago, and then there was the testimony and the reports by the psychiatrist, court appointed psychiatrists who claim that james holmes was inside. the court appoint eded psychiatrist

ruling otherwise. they began ruling yesterday morning it could be that they spent this morning here in centennial colorado filling out the verdict forms. they keim to this decision by all appearances very quickly. >> during the course of this we know that holmes in jail has exhibited bizarre behavior. can you tell us more about that? >> yeah and the jury saw videotape of that walking into walls, smearing himself with feces, this was talked about in the closing argument particularly early on the testimony has been that as he's been streeted with anti-psychotic drugs as time has gotten on he's become more stable. the issue for this jury is what his state of mind was and what his mental state was when he walked into that theater on july 20th 2012.

>> in colorado unlike many other states the burden is on the prosecution to prove the sanity, is that right? >> that's right, they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that holmes was sane at the time of the acts. and they claim they did that as you heard from the closing arguments a couple days ago. it was clear based on the planning that he did leading up to the acts that he was sane he was in control. the defense argument was playing to the law in colorado which defines sanity as to whether you are able to distinguish right from wrong. not criminal right from wrong, but moral right from wrong, he was not able to do that. >> one more for you, scott, in terms of the next steps, what happens assuming a individual is reached and read in the next few hours. >> if the verdict is guilty they move on to penalty phase.

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president's message both at the naacp earlier this week was the idea of compassion. the president of the united states putting himself in the shoes of the folks in prison saying, i could have made these mistakes. they're in here because they weren't given forgiveness. >> i think we're benefiting from a few things that are happening at the same time. being a couple generations removed from the crack epidemic having crime overall, having dropped dramatically since the 1990s. the environment is right for this issue right now. and then i think also there is is becoming a left/right consensus on the idea of criminal justice reform libertarians are weighing in saying this doesn't make sense. among the things that governor mcgreevey talked about is voting rights in a half a dozen states too. the fact that the overwhelming disproportionate number of people that are impacted by

these drug wars are african-americans and they are the people most often robbed of the vote has kept this issue from becoming bipartisan because of the spektr of unleaving millions of african-american voters, now they're opening up to it even in states where they deny voting rights. >> i'm going to have to cut this conversation short for a moment. tennessee governor is reacting to today's shooting in chattanooga. let's listen in. >> seeing how that affects our response. >> will you be heading to chattanooga? >> we'll be looking into that. my rule is, always go, if you can helpful. never go if you're going to be in the way. we're certain we can be helpful to the families that are involved, who have suffered the loss. if we can be helpful we'll go, and right now, we're working toward doing that. >> i understand when it was

going on there was some sort of local response. troopers around different areas. >> initially you have multiple a lot of different information which may or may not be correct. there were reports -- the two locations, several locations may be of gunshots being fired, i think the security here there was concern there may be some larger coordinated effort going on. they reacted to that as well. >> the governor -- >> i think so i think there was -- any time there's a heightened sense of security the law enforcement folks react appropriately. >> you weren't there at the time? >> no, i've been here all day. >> is there anything about the victims yet, where there's tennessee -- >> we have -- as -- from everything i understand they haven't released anything. pending noteificationnotification, next of kin. >> when did you first become aware of this? >> we got a call about 20

minutes after it happened from david who runs homeland security. he was notified by authorities there, at that point in time they're -- felt it was an active shooter situation, i can't remember exactly what time -- maybe like 10:40 or something like that. i don't -- i may not be exactly right. >> have you gotten a chance to speak with mayor burke yet? >> i have not. again, i kneel like you know andy has the job to do down there, those folks are trying to do everything they can to attend to that. i will call andy a little later, this afternoon or tonight. i've been in the middle of situations where it's in your hometown, you want to make certain you don't have people that are getting in the way of things you want to do. >> do you have any thoughts on that? >> i think that obviously will be -- that will be a question for military officials to make that determination. they had the shooting at the military base.

>> i think for me to comment on that right now would be spective. >> what do you think of the state's response? how do you think the states performed in all this? >> my sense is our folks responded as well as the police department. from everything i understand they responded in an effective manner and did everything they could to at least limit all the damage and hurt that's already happened. obviously we'll know more about how that played out later, from everything i've understood so far all the law enforcement did an outstanding job. >> we haven't seen you since -- >> that was bill haslem with his reaction to the shooting that took the lives of four marines in chattanooga earlier today. we'll have more on that story coming up. >> the president's visit to a federal prison in oklahoma.

to go back to what joy was saying before we broke into that presser right there, the bipartisan consensus it today in particular, governor chris christie, the current governor of new jersey came out and said some fairly -- had some very strong honest statements about the broken nature of our federal prison system. let's take a listen about what he had to say about why we should care. >> i happen to be prolife, and i believe strongly in the sanctity of human life. but i believe that you're really going to be pro life you got to be pro life for more than just the time during the womb. >> i found that a remarkable statement. first and foremost the way this has been tapped broadly on the right is an economic concern. fixing an institution in the system that is burdensome so the taxpayer. that is a moral and ethical argument? >> yes, this is where ironically one of the few places in the spectrum of american political thought that conservatives and

liberals can come together. i've seen it happen. whether it's latino evangelical christians. the liberals coming together in a jail cell in a prison to understand that we have a broken system, we spend lots of money, we don't rehabilitation persons. we have them merely tolling time when they walk out, they walk out with fear and trepidation to the streets and all too often return to the community that's caused or helped contribute to their criminal behavior. the program that the mayor started in jersey city we're replicating it in newark tom's river, so many suburban youth, frankly young white are getting into the purchasing heroin through opiates. and so we see that there's an explosion of heroin use and tragically overdose. now we have a governor. the governor always says jim, you and i agree on one issue,

and maybe it's enough but on this one issue, we're providing for treatment and providing for sober housing, and we're providing for employment and training to get people from being wards of the state to productive sober citizens. it's so rewarding and it can happen. >> prisons have become clearinghouses for people addicted to drugs. for people with mental health issues, and for poor people. the other thing that governor christie took up was the issue of bail. i want to play what he said. >> for too many communities across our country the bail system is fundamentally broken. in lots of cases. nonviolent offenders are sitting in jail because they couldn't afford $250 in cash for bail. it's wrong that we allow poverty to determine who gets out of jail and who does not. >> i mean go ahead. in new york city recently i think it was last month, low level, nonviolent offenders are not going to be forced to pay

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we continue to follow breaking news this hour out of chattanooga, tennessee. a senior official has confirmed the suspect in the shooting has been identified as mohammed yousef abdul aziz. he's a naturalized u.s. citizen from kuwait. joining me on the phone is evan coleman. how are you reading the pieces of this puzzle thus far? >> we don't know much about this individual. obviously there are plenty of people out there when they look at his name and hear he's from kuwait. they think about what's going on in syria and iraq and this situation with isis. we don't know much about this individual about what motivated

him. there's no obvious pattern of online radicalization. on the other hand we don't know much about him, we're not sure if we have the right spelling of his name but so far, the leads that have popped up we don't really know i think the answer is, when you look at the context of the situation we're dealing with here particularly what's going on in syria and iraq, it's easy to assume it's related. >> we'll have more on this story and more after the break. i can try new dishes like the island seafood feast with crab, lobster jumbo sweet and spicy and coconut shrimp. so hurry in, it'll be gone before you know it.

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it's kids rock appears to be backtracking for his previous support of the confederate flag days after he responded to calls saying kiss my ass. it's been more than five years since kid rock has had the flag on tour. while defending the flag as a symbol of southern pride, maybe

losing currency in popular culture, pockets of resistance remain. outside of president obama's oklahoma city hotel last night and across the street from the school where he zlived remarks. he was greeted by confederate flag waving protesters by the group stand by the flag. whose facebook banner proudly declares confederate lives matter. let me just first get your thoughts on confederate lives. >> my mind is blown, i'm not sure i can speak between kid rock still performing which i didn't know. he's from detroit, like michigan -- what is his relationship? and i don't get it this whole idea that as americans you celebrate the guys who tried to secede and essentially were treasonous and we say that's myrna. no it's not, those are the people we beat in a war we won

the have people flying the japanese flag over los angeles, we won, we fly our flag. >> i feel like in some ways we go to cultural spokespeople. does it really matter? on something like the use of the confederate flag? i think kid rock's position backing away from it sort of does matter. >> as much as kid rock matters. >> you represent something to a certain part of the country. >> i think he represents the confederate flag doesn't mean you're a rebel any more. it's like x marks the spot. i think him saying -- even he doesn't support it i think it's the last straw. if kid rock doesn't support the confederate flag. >> that actually matters. >> therefore no one else can use it right? >> we've looked at, i mean we've seen tremendous social change in the last two months whether it's the gay marriage ruling, whether it's the confederate flag coming down or donald trump's acendency in the polls.

and the backlash is unsurprisingly swift. i wonder how long -- what the expiration date for the backlash is do you think? >> it's interesting. because when president obama was a senator, he had that famous speech where he talked about how there are red states and blue states, we're the united states of america. it's a lovely aspiration. it's not always true. we talk about this stuff in vague nice terms. we really have a nation that is very divided on a lot of issues where people don't really love each other in different parts of the country. on this issue, it's a real symbol of this passionate divide within this country. >> and i guess i wonder does this exacerbate the divide between red and blue while on a whole, it would seem like we're getting better. you look at this change and i think for some people this is simply too much. >> i guess so except that it was kind of hopeful when i was in south carolina the other

week a lot of white south carolina ans were saying they were relieved the flag was coming down because it felt like a scar on their state. it defined who the south is supposed to be and a lot of people including governor haley want to be new south. they want to be the south that attracts jobs or tourists. >> they just want to attract business, i think. >> they're -- they're supposed to be the place where there's lots of economic growth and a place to go for tourism. that's what they want to put forward, not this. that flag since the 60s has been the defiant symbol of defiance against segregation. that is why the flag went up in the south. i think a lot of southerners are saying let's move on let's enthe civil war. there's resistance as you saw. >> that poll shows that 78% of republicans think it's a symbol

of pride not racism, that is up 3%age points from 1992. i do need to move on. speaking of republicans to this story. house republican leaders are trying to coral unreally members who haven't paid their dues to the national republican congressional committee. tensions boiled over at a closed door meeting last week when scott garrett stunned the room with this explanation. he had not supported the nrcc in the past because it actively recruited gay candidates and supported homosexuals in primaries. that is a drop of the mic moment. >> it reminds me of todd aiken from a few years back where somebody who is a member of the republican party says something that is highly embarrassing to the party. you have party elders saying this is a problem for us this is going to be so bad for our reputation among voters. the problem is there are a lot of people in your own party that feel this way. >> how do you negotiate that. >> no better example of that is scott walker who came out

against the boy scouts allowing gay troop leaders and said i support the previous policy because it protected children and advanced scout values. then yesterday he clarified that saying the protection i was referring to was not a physical protection but rather about protecting them from being involved in the very thing you're talking about right now, the political and media discussion about it. >> they're boy scouts. i think they can handle it, that's what they're trained to do. >> i think that could be a new badge, just like a spin doctor. >> i can start a fire with two flints and with stand media scrutiny. i don't know. i feel like to blake's point here is scott walker. he's whistled the conservative dog whistle and tried to unwhistle it. >> that's scott walker's point.

he's running way to the right to get the nomination. i think there's a substantial part of the republican base that wants to be spoken for, they want someone to stand up for their values. they are not enjoying and feeling this whole cultural movement and they fielkow ersed into it. >> and that person is donald trump. and donald trump is speaking for them. as much as we feel this is a clown show this is someone speaking for them. >> it is a long strange dip paraphrasing jerry garcia. we're going to leave it there. thank you guys all. when you travel, we help you make all kinds of connections. connections you almost miss. and ones you never thought you'd make. we help connect where you are. to places you never thought you'd go. this, is why we travel.

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shooting spree in chattanooga tennessee earlier today. a senior federal official has confirmed the suspect has been identified as mohammed yousef abdul aziz. he's believed to be a naturalized u.s. citizen from the middle east. the attack started late this morning at a navy recruiting center. the spree ended nearly six miles away at a separate naval reserve center. at a separate location. four marines were killed and officials say the gunman was shot. the incident is being treated as an ability of domestic terror. >> we are conducting this as an act of domestic terrorism. the fbi is now in charge of this investigation. >> we will treat this as a terrorism investigation until it can be determined that it was not. >> we are looking at every possible avenue whether