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>> people not getting along. we need to talk about it now so it is straightened up. >> gnaw inmate struggles with life on the tough side of the jail. >> they have me sleeping on the floor. >> another inmate offered to improve his condition. but mounts a defense any way. >> never satisfied with anything he gets. >> she made threats against staff members. made attempts to strike staff members. >> you have me locked up in my cell 24/7, anyone would go crazy. ♪
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is. >> 15 miles west of washington, d.c. is fairfax, virginia. forbes magazine once ranked it as one of the top places to live in america. in the middle of downtown is where the good life comes to a screeching halt. most of the 1200 men and women incarcerated there are only accused of crimes and are awaiting trial of the resolution of their cases and few have favorable reviews. >> fairfax is the worst jail in northern virginia. >> this jail is locked down. >> the most vicious jail in the united states of america. >> they don't like it here because of our rules. we have more rules and regulation than other local jails. we're known as the tough jail. >> the woman who runs the jail
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says that's by design. >> we have a rej meanted system and we have a way of doing things and it is structure and a lot of vinls that come in don't have structure in their lives. >> nowhere is that structure more evident than the old side of the jail. reserved for higher security inmates the old side is far more restrictive. inmates are locked out of their cells every day from 8:30 to 4:30 p.m. forcing them to be in a small common area. >> the deputy can observe the inmates. when they are in their cells, overcrowdeding means two men share a space for one. that means somebody sleeps on the floor.
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the new side of the jail is designed for nonsecurity inmates, less crowded, larger housing units and nicer accommodations. >> follow me. determining which side of the jail inmates go to after they arrive is the job of classification deputies like sergeant o'neill. >> we don't want to put somebody who's a minimum custody prisoner a block with somebody who may be a violent offender. >> what's your name? >> david rother. >> david rother served seven days in the jail after pleading guilty to driving under a suspended license and carrying a concealed weapon. this time he's charged with robbery. he says a former roommate falsely accused him of taking money after they had a fight and he plans to plead not guilty. >> you were in a jail before? >> yes. >> where were you housed in the jail then?
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>> i was on the new side. i can't remember where it was. >> okay. have you ever been to the old side? >> no. you're aware of it? >> yeah. because of your charge, violent -- >> please don't do that to me, man. >> you have to go to the old side. >> i'm not a violent man. >> i'm bound by rules of the agency and you have to go over there. >> i don't -- >> i don't have a choice, whether you did or you did it it's considered a violent offense, and i have to put you over there because of the nature of the charge. >> all right, man. it is what it is, i guess. >> honestly, it's really no different. >> i know you get locked out all day. >> yeah, you do. >> the deputies are real hard asses over there because they're dealing with violent offenders whereas on the new side they're more relaxed. whether you're in the old side or the new side, you're in jail.
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♪ ♪ >> rother will wait in a holding cell until he is processed and taken to his housing unit. while he dreads going to the old side of the jail, iesha walker says she would love to be anywhere other than the one-person cell she's confined to, 23 hours per day. >> i haven't been in general population for two and a half years. i've been in this cell for two and a half years on and off. i have not seen anybody else for two and a half years. ♪ as soon as i come in i'm pretty much housed in this cell. i don't go anywhere else. >> walker is in administrative segregation due to chronic behavioral problems. >> the last couple of times she was in general population she does not get along with other
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inmates and she's volatile in her temperament and gets set off easily and she will most likely get in segregation any time she comes to this jail. >> walker has had several stays in this jail for convictions including assault and disorderly conduct. she's currently back for probation violation on her latest conviction of grand larceny. >> she's a problem child and floods herself. she has made threats to staff members and she has made attempt s to stab staff members and she's as out of control as inmates get in this facility. >> walker is required to be handcuffed any time her cell door is open, even when she's escorted to recreation which she must attend alone. >> it's simple, don't [ bleep ] with me and i won't [ bleep ] with you. that's really how i go. i have a bad anger problem when i get upset i go from one to a hundred and it's very scary. >> and that rapid-boil temper
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led to walker's latest conviction for grand larceny. after she placed an ad on craigslist to sell a playstation and then met with a potential buyer. >> the guy looks at it and he's, like, i don't want it. that's going to piss me off. what do you mean? i've been waiting two hours and you don't want it ? where the [ bleep ] is the money. my friend, my friend, no, you're not my friend. i want your money. >> walker admits stealing cash and cell phones from the man. she pled guilty and served six months of a ten-year sentence before being released on probation. walker violated by leaving the state and now awaits a court hearing which could result in her first prison sentence. i have nine and a half years over my head. >> what scares you the most about prison? >> that my mind may deteriorate. i might become more bitter and resentful and i might end up just saying [ bleep ] it . >> walker said she's developed plenty of bitterness and
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resentment locked away in her administrative segregation cell. ♪ >> you've got me locked up in my cell 24/7, anyone would go crazy. someone who is completely sane before they come to jail and they're in their cell for that [ bleep ] long, eventually you just might snap. >> ironically, walker says her outbursts in jail have resulted in not being allowed to participate in programs like anger management. while mental health staff will not comment on their treatment of individual inmates, walker does acknowledge having received help from them. >> when i did come here this time to the health staff i've been more helpful. i had tools in my room. i'm reading and i'm understanding more about myself.
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>> i get a journal from mental health staff and i write what's on my mind. i write and read my material to help reduce my anger. >> walker says she's been making strides. with the help of private first class buckner. >> there will be days when she'll get so mad that she doesn't get something and she'll trash her room. she'll try to flood it. with me, she'll get angry and she'll be abusive language and i say walker you're better than this. i think that gets to her. >> you taught me how to cry and make sure it is okay. because of you, i'm mad at you because i always cry because of you. >> you're a human with feelings, right? >> i'm not the big bogeyman or the monster anymore. >> coming up, iesha walker has her new look for court, but will her old ways get the best of her? >> i tried to help her.
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the operating philosophy of the fairfax adult detention center can be summed up in two words. >> we do believe that safety and security is of utmost importance and the safety and the security of the staff and the inmates. we're supposed to be the ones in control. >> to that end the jail has instituted policies such as locking medium and maximum security inmates out of their cells during the day. >> if there wasn't lockout they would have access into their rooms which you can't observe from an outside area and that's more things that they're doing which we can't see and can't observe, which could be escape attempts, creating weapons and assaulting an inmate. >> each morning, these inmates housed on what is the old side of the jail exit their cells and wait for deputies to conduct a walk through. >> we go inside the block with the inmates and they all stand against the wall will and a blanket for the day and their bags and the property that they need for the day. we go in there and maybe 10, 15 deputies and the walk through will be given by the post which
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will be myself today. >> good morning. i'll be your most deputy for the first part of the day. you have the handbooks and the responsibility of the rules in the handbooks. if you don't know them i suggest you read them. your greens will be on and buttoned up as you go to and from the shower. >> the other deputies will be coming in there and they'll be conducting a security and the sanitation inspection of each cell. don't be banging on my windows yelling out my door unless you have a fight or medical emergency. are there any problems in this block and people not getting along? we ned to talk about it now and get it straightened up. all right. then we should have a nice, quiet day. keep your backs to the wall until we leave. >> no, no, go ahead. >> david rother has just spent his first night on the old side. after he was brought in on a robbery charge to which he plans to plead not guilty. >> i've been in this jail before, but i've never been on this side before.
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it's not really much different once you get up here, i guess, other than being locked out of our cells during the day. >> and after the lockout ends, rother is allowed back in his cell, but it's not much more comfortable. >> i think i have at least bunk beds or something like that. it's kind of [ bleep ] up. they've got me sleeping on the floor. right now i'm looking at it as i'm at least going to be here for a few months. if i get bond, great. i've got the money and i'll get out and go home to my girl. i miss my family, man, you know? sucks, man. it really does. i don't want to be here. so -- it is what it is. ♪ >> while rother struggles to adapt to his surroundings, there is one fairfax inmate for whom the jail is almost a second
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home. >> john stark. can you comment on john stark? >> i'm an alcoholic, i guess. or a professional drinker. >> he's a frequent flier. he comes in here quite often, usually for drunk in public. >> will i stop? i don't know. it depends if they run out of beer. >> i would see john stark come in three times, four times on a weekend. >> how is it hanging, robby? >> john is john. they all know me. in a way, these guys are my family also. they want me to run for sheriff. stark for sheriff. sounds good. ♪
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>> you bring up my record, he's been arrested for drunk in public over 90 times. at least i'm good at it. john stark says he's had at least 70 stays in the jail over the past 30 years. >> i live here. my parents live two blocks away. everybody knows me. stark's latest arrest was once again for public intoxication and this time it was also considered a parole violation. on an earlier conviction of assaulting a law enforcement officer. stark says he was intoxicated that time, as well. >> i spit on a police officer. it wasn't the right thing to do. i was a little upset because i was being once again arrested when i wasn't bothering anybody. >> i will admit i'm defiant toward the law. i'll give it the finger any time i can. >> stark has been in administrative segregation for the past four months because of
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a history of aggressive behavior, but he recently filed a request to transfer to general population. the decision is up to the jail's institutional classification committee. >> he's never gotten a chance at the population in the couple of years i've been here, but whenever he's on a.s. we rarely ever get a report. i think it's time to give him a shot at population. today is his lucky day, i think. everyone agree? >> the committee has approved his request, but with john stark it seems even good news doesn't go down without a fight. >> after your behavior, if you start picking up charges. >> i never pick up charges in population. you never let me go to population. >> stark, you need to let us finish, okay? if that happens and it starts being continuous we may have another icc on you and place you on a.s., all right? i'm just here to warn you, okay? >> fine. >> keep this in mind, okay? take advantage of this
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opportunity because i know chances are when you go to court you'll get out. somehow you get locked up again, all right? if you behave the next time you come in, if you come back you have a good chance to go back to population and trade up and no more a.s. so take advantage. >> it's kangaroo court. thank you. >> you're welcome, but it's -- >> do you have any questions about any of this? >> no. >> he's never satisfied with anything he gets. however, you can't keep someone locked down forever. you have to give them a chance and he's always asked for a chance and this is his opportunity if he proves himself he'll finish out his time here, but he's a frequent flier. he's going to be back. >> wow! >> coming up, the unusual circumstances that land one inmate in disciplinary segregation. >> i started a fire with my alarm clock, i kind of light something. >> will probably die alone in this jail cell if i don't change. iesha walker's plea to the judge. >> today i realize my life has
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>> make sure you've knot everything on the tray before you sit down. >> at the fairfax county adult detention center, most inmates prefer to do their time on the new side of the jail. conditions are much harsher on the old side. >> chow time! >> but in the confines of administrative segregation, inmates also have to deal with isolation and there's one part of the jail where it's even harder to do time. disciplinary segregation. >> when you're on disciplinary segregation you've been found guilty of some sort of charge inhouse. the restrictions for disciplinary segregation is you have the mattress removed from the cell from 5:30 in the morning until 9:30 at night so you have your concrete bunk. you get no linens, no magazines and no books. you are allowed one religious work and you are not allowed to attend programs, visiting and you are fed a nutritional food loaf every day of the week except for sunday. >> most inmates wind up here for
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fighting or other acts of violence. robert barr's story is more unusual. >> i started a fire with my alarm clock trying to light something. >> trying to light what? >> something to smoke. i got caught doing it. >> a cigarette? >> well, they didn't find it. so i don't want to tell you. ♪ officials say barr, who's serving time on a drug-related probation violation started a fire when he attempted to hot wire an alarm clock to create a spark for whatever he planned on smoking. >> it was plugged in to the wall and the wires touched. lit a piece of toilet paper on fire. the toilet paper smoked a bunch and set off the fire alarm.
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>> barr was found guilty of setting a fire and mail failing to report an emergency to staff. he received 30 days in disciplinary segregation. >> i don't have a book or tv. loaves they are feeding me, i don't want to eat. i'm too weak to workout. i'm laying on this concrete slab until they bring my bed back. this is the fun hard place they give you when you are in a jail, starve you and put you on a hard place. you want to see my pillow? laundry bag and towel. makes a good pillow. >> our disciplinary measures, by any outside eye are pretty harsh. it's an adult version of time out. go to your room and you can't watch tv, can't talk to anybody, can't read. sit and reflect on the wrong that you have done. it's harsh but i think it is effective. >> reporter: when it comes to
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disciplinary segregation, iesh walker has more than most. >> she has had 11 different adjustment hearings for disciplinary segregation and she has been on ds for 118 days. >> walk wither says one of those stays inspired her to get a at the too. it reads ambition. >> i think that's when i started doing a lot of dreaming myself. i went out and got this tattoo because i feel i had a lot of ambition. sometimes when i look at it i get mad because when i got that tattoo i was supposed to change. >> reporter: walker said she is doing her best to change her behavior and impression she makes. and with the court date approaching, she's decide a new look would help her with the judge. >> i had to get it cut for short. the fro had to go.
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i want to look decent. >> reporter: walker violated her probation and now her judge could decide to release her on probation again or send her to prison for up to 9 1/2 years. >> i'm nervous and anxious but at the end of the day i have a release date. i'm not just sitting here wondering what are you going to do, what will she decide, at least i will know. >> reporter: walker said she might try to read her latest journal entry to her judge. >> i'm alone, alone here, alone in the world, alone in my heart and alone in my mind, alone everywhere, all the time. i hate that there's no one to hear my scream and there's no one to help me to learn how to stop screaming or to stop fighting my reality. i hate that i will probably die alone. i will probably die alone in this jail cell if i don't change. i became this macho-like monster. and everyone feared me. no one wanted to talk to me and worst with of all, everyone always chose to misjudge me.
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california and las vegas. it has burned 3,000 acres. mandatory evacuation orders for part of the affected areas. now back to "lock up squts l." " . daytime is one of the most uncomfortable times for medium and maximum security inmates housed on the old side of the fairfax county adult detention center. the 20 men in each unit are locked out of their cells and share a day room, measuring 21x19 feet. most watch tv or play chess and cards. robert barr likes to draw. he just arrived here after serving 30 days in disciplinary segregation for starting a fire in his work release housing
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unit. >> something to do. i am not an artist. i can draw lines really good. >> look wild. bunch of geometric patterns. >> for david rother, who's with fearful about being housed on this side of the jail, he was a welcome sight. >> i have known david since high school. >> ten years. >> long time. >> he walked in, i had a big old smile on my face. i didn't recognize him at first because he had the big old viking beard. >> rother feels more at ease with a friendly face in the unit, he says it is still jail. >> it's weird, man. people in here, they have all of this pent up aggression. >> a lot of people are really angry in here. really, really angry. >> so if i get in to it with somebody in here, it's going to be bad, bad for everybody. it's not worth it to me. there are ways you can do it and
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get away with somebody. if you want to duke it out with somebody, always a way. walker has had her problems with deputies and inmates and is housed in administrative segregation but trying to change with buckner. >> i'm not the boogie man anymore. >> two days before she is to appear in court walker has taken a step back ward. >> this is what think will do to your grand kids and children. >> earlier in the day, sheriffs emergency response team or sert, put her in restraints. >> walker had asked me to read a letter that she is going to court. i just -- simply explained to her it's not my opinion that
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matters. it's the judge that matters. she then got irritated with me and started cussing at me and started flooding the cell. >> soon after, master deputy sheriff minks and private first class buckner arrived on the unit to begin their shifts. >> i was advised she was flooding her cell and acting ir rational. i went up to the top tier of the unit, made eye contact and we exchanged some words and she pretty much told me what in the plp blp was i looking at and i said sit down and be quiet. from there i believe i ticked her off. >> when walker began spitting water through the door, they placed a magnetic strip but to no avail. >> she was able to poke it out to remove this section of the magnetic strip. and at that time, pfc buckner
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was passing through. >> this crack right here. her mouth is right there. she spit right at me. luckily she missed my head but got my entire arm, and went down. >> definitely not going home no more. [ bleep ] yes, i need some. i will call the mercy task force on a 22-year-old female weighing 162 pounds. you are psycho . she walked in to my line of range. nobody purposely spat on her. if you see somebody spit out on
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water, why do you walk across their cell. >> in addition to the sanctions she will place, buckner decided to file a criminal assault charge against her. >> hitting, spitting is a threat against you. >> that's an immediate in-house charge. what about the street charge? why go street charge on that. >> if the same thing happened on the street it would be assaulting an law enforcement officer. considered a felony. >> i know you all remember that [ bleep ] she was talking about. i helped walk wither this and that many times. you ain't helping me right now. what are you doing right now? what are you doing right now? that [ bleep ] is stupid. >> you had a good rapport. what's different today? >> walker is a very interesting individual. she goes -- one day she will be the nicest inmate. will cooperate, listen to you, talk to you, will calm down. but today, no matter how much i
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talk to her she did not want to listen. that's the different side of walker. >> walker is taken to the magistrate's office located in the booking department to be formally charged with assault. >> i didn't do nothing. i didn't touch this woman. >> are you walker, iesha? >> can you answer my question? >> you know exactly who i am. >> yeah, bitch. >> all right, miss walker you are held without bail on the charge and brought to the judge for arraignment tomorrow morning. thank you. >> thank you, magistrate. >> have a good day. >> miss walk wither is taken back to her cell. she continues to verbally engage buckner. >> you are a sorry [ bleep ]. filing charges for [ bleep ] water. plp blp [ bleep ]. i don't know you no more. i swear to god i don't. >> all right got enough trouble. you want to add on to it.
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watch your back for the rest of this day until i go home. i guess i'm going to keep catching. i'm not done. that really [ bleep ] me over. y'all going to have fun with me until i leave. i'm giving up now. that's it. >> we were heading back, she said that she doesn't care how many felonies she lines up in the jail and all of us need to watch our backs while we're in here. threats like that need to be notified just for safety of myself and the other deputies around me. >> i'm going to give her a reason to press charges. it ain't going to be for no water, thoechl i'm racking them up until i leave. i'm never going home. >> i feel like she never learns. she goes right back to the old iesha walker. it is always disappointing. you try to educate the inmates
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and tell them how to better themselves and they will do good and go right back to the old. >> i have been nice to her enough times. >> we have all been good to her. >> i tried to help her. >> coming up. >> you are the one who's responsible for your behavior. >> iesha walker's time in jail gets considerably harder and john stark shares his views on general population. >> nothing is fair in fairfax. your body was made for better things than the pain, stiffness, and joint damage
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that's what this jail is all about, business, business, business. nothing is fair in fairfax. >> reporter: but stark takes advantage of the free hair cut the jail provides indigent inmates every eight weeks. >> you are not going to get it all cut off? >> no, i have to fly the rebel flag. just getting cut out of my eyes. this is the best she could do. it's not straight. i just have to wait until i get out. can't get a good hair cut in fairfax. richest county in the nation and you can't get a decent hair cut. >> reporter: though he has a lot of complaints about being lock ed up he said the thought of getting out can be counting. >> i don't know what i will do. >> what is your perfect world? >> what's my perfect world? my amplifier and my guitars back and just leave me alone. i'm 51. i don't have many years left. so i want to just -- i want to
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enjoy my time. i don't want to be locked away. i'm not harming anybody. >> reporter: iesha walker said she has felt alone most of her life and hopes that will change before it's too late. >> i hate that i will probably die alone. i will probably die alone in this jail cell if i don't change. >> reporter: >> it's that message walker wanted the judge to hear during her upcoming sentencing. >> do you see me now. >> two days before her court date she lost her temper with deputies. >> they try to [ bleep ] you are psycho. >> after she spit water on private first class buckner, walker was charged with criminal assault and will soon be arraigned. >> i'm still mad at myself because i let them get to me and i know i had court in two days. what do you want me to do. where am i going to go, where's my solution? >> walker said she will plead
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not guilty. but first she has a disciplinary hearing about the incident with lieutenant suarez. walker could receive up to 15 days in disciplinary segregation. >> you have been charged with assaulting an employee. how do you plead to that charge? >> guilty. >> we take anything that is an aggressive action or indication of violence toward an employee or visitor very seriously. >> i'm like why -- [ bleep ] i don't have a problem with you. you need to keep it moving. my beef ain't with you. >> i think her position is she was claiming she was provoked and she was in a cell and can't walk away. tell me how you look at it. >> i understand she is in an isolated cell and if something is provoking her she has no outlet or recourse to get away from it. i can understand that. to her she is saying get away from my cell. i was spitting so people would stay away from me. at the same time once it makes
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contact with somebody it is considered an assault. no one comes to work to be spit on. you are responsible for your behavior. i know you are aware of your behavior and the consequences that come from it. from you pleading guilty you acknowledge that you were spitting. it hit deputy buckner. >> right. >> i'm sure you know and understand you shouldn't be spitting out of your window or slot to begin. if you are splitting out of your slot, there's a good chance of it hitting somebody if somebody walks by. it is not incumbent on us to not do our duty and walk by your cell because you are choosing to spit so we can avoid being hit. it is something you shouldn't do to begin with. >> i have 15 days, right? >> you have 15 days, that's the bottom line. you keep talking about wanting to point out that your behavior has changed and this and that and you want to point to that as reasons for getting your sanctions back and getting more privileges and things like that, but you can't keep saying look i have changed, oh, but not this time. it doesn't work that way.
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you have to have a consistent -- >> so you are basically not going to justify the fact that i got provoked an you know i have suffer with a temperament issue enhave done the best i can for somebody in the cell 24/7 without any help. however, it is my responsibility to stay calm. i can only do so much if i'm continuing to be provoked. >> do you ever think of the bigger issues of what isolation can do to a person? and how do you consider that and still do your job? >> i take these things in to consideration. she said, hey, i'm in the cell going crazy. i'm here all the time. what am i supposed to do? i think if she had some sort of contrition to her actions and to her word and actually demonstrated, you know, continual improved behavior that she is trying to change that would make more of afternoon impression on me. i see manipulative behavior
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where she acts good for a certain period of time and expects reward and if she doesn't get it acts out. do you have any questions? >> no. that's it. >> enjoy the rest of the afternoon. >> you too. >> walker's 15 days she will only be allowed outside of the cell for three times a week for a shower. her mattress removed during the day and fed a knew trigsal loaf for every meal, except on sundays. >> all the time all the time. nobody ever hear or see me or understand me. >> coming up, iesha walker receives her sentence. >> why couldn't i just stay calm? that's all i needed to do. >> and an injury raises questions. >> anything more to the story than just that? >> no. hypothetically if there was i'd be worried to say anything. cou.
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when david rother was booked in the fairfax county adult detention center on a robbery charge, he was scared about having to go to the old side of the jail where inmates with violent charges are housed. >> because you are charged with a violent felony. >> please don't do that to me, man. >> you have to go to the old side. >> i'm not a violent man. >> due to his new black eye, one might assume his fears were realized but rother insists it isn't what it looks like. >> laying down, reading and got up to take a leak and got dizzy, light headed, took a spill, hit my face on the toilet. >> is there anything more to the story than that? >> no. i mean, hypothetically if there was i'd be worried to say anything.
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>> why would you be worried? >> if there was any sort of inkling that i might have gotten in to some sort of violent encounter with somebody, being in here on a violent charge that could probably affect my bond or something like that. >> was the toilet right handed or left-handed? >> what the flush er? what do you mean? oh, just your average toilet with a water fountain on the top. that's what we drink out of, so -- >> rother gave the same story to depp 'tis when they noticed the injury. >> you pull him out and talk to him and get his story. they are not always believable. sometimes they are unbelievable. >> are you asking if i would be safe? >> yeah. >> yes, sir. >> safe here and safe anywhere else. >> we want to make sure it is looked in to. we realize we are not going to always get the answer but we want to make sure our bases are covered wane are looking in to it and not going eh, he had a
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black eye, fell on the toilet. the odds of that are splim. we want to make shir we explore all options. >> rother remains adamant he got dizzy and fell. >> done with that book? >> yes, sir. >> you probably won't read it and get dizzy anymore. >> no, sir. thank you, sir. you can go on back. >> two days earlier, iesha walker spit water on private first class buckner and charged with criminal assault. she is now escorted one of the jail's video courtrooms for an arraignment. >> are you iesha walker. >> yes, sir. >> you are charged with assault and battery. assault and battery on a police officer. let's see. so it is a felony. right now we're going to hold
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you without bond. i will appoint a lawyer to represent -- >> i i already have a lawyer, sir. >> i understand. but you won't get that lawyer to represent you, unless i appoint them for this charge, as well. that's what i'm going to do. i will appoint the lawyer to represent you on these charges. the lawyer can talk to you in the jail about what the various options are including bond, if that is appropriate. the court date is march 4th at 2:00. right now we are going to hold you without bond. >> thank you. >> good luck. . >> with her court date for assault three months away, walker has another legal matter to attend to. she is escorted to a long corridor that ekt connects the jail to the circuit court building. this is where a decision will be made regarding her recent violation under lars nis conviction. her judge can do anything from releasing her on probation to
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making her serve 9 1/2 years in prison. she waits for her hearing in one of the court's holding cells. >> it wasn't supposed to go like this. i was supposed to come here and we could be talking about what i'm going to do when i get out. i can't believe it, man. it's tearing me up inside. i just can't afford to spaz on these people. >> they were not allowed in the courtroom but hours later we visited with walker become in her cell. >> being 18 months with 6 1/2 months served. and then i have to deal with, you know, the spitter thing. so it is going to be about two years, man. two years in this cell, man. ♪
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you know it's your fault at the end of the day. you know that it is. but you try. you know that you are trying. can't change overnight. you can't, you know what i mean? you have to give me credit. these people expect me to change so soon and it takes time. you know what i mean. i'm doing all of this by myself. ♪ why couldn't i just stay calm, man. that's all i needed to do. it sucks, you know?
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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. turn around, face away from me. i need you down on the ground. put your hands behind your back, do it now. >> the emergency response team is deployed when a mentally ill inmate soils his cell and refuses orders

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