tv Weekends With Alex Witt MSNBC July 18, 2015 9:00am-11:01am PDT
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new information about the gunman in the chattanooga shooting today and sad news on another victim. we'll talk to the an iranian born american about the nuclear deal. >> they will totally control him just like a puppet. they will totally control hillary just like a puppet. donald trump's rise to the top of the gop and why is he talking about puppets? >> hey there, everyone, high noon here in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." another death from thursday's shooting at a pair of military sites in tennessee. navy petty officer second class randall smith died early this morning. smith was a reservist on active duty when a gunman opened fire killing him and four marines. meantime meantime, the a.p. reports a federal official says the gunman
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was not hired for a job at an ohio nuclear power plant two years ago because he failed a drug test. is the plan set mohammad youssuf abdulazeez was hired conditionally and not given access to sensitive areas or information. it comes as investigators found a blog by abdulazeez a post made three days before the shooting said this life is short and bitter and the opportunity to submit to allah may pass you by. the fbi's aware of the blog and is investigating to confirm whether it was his. investigators found that he visited the middle east last year for seven months and when he'd rushed he'd grown a beard and began attending religious services more frequently. there appears to be no clear motive for the shooting but investigators say abdulazeez was heavily armed. well memorials continue to grow in the honor of those killed and there are new calls to arm military recruiters in the walk of these attacks. for more on this let's go to
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sarah dallof live sarah, good day, i see the memorial is certainly growing. >> it certainly is alex. a steady stream of people coming throughout the morning to add flags and flowers to come together as a community. especially in the wake of this latest death. >> it's kind of frightening. we feel that we're more secure here at home and why would something like this happen in our own backyard? >> there's been a lot of discussion about ensuring security at military recruiting and reserve centers in the future. the army's chief of staff has said that will be reviewed. it will be looked at. some states taking their own approach to that. the state of florida has just ordered that recruiters at six store front locations relocate immediately to their nearest national guard armory while a review is conducted there that includes perhaps placing video surveillance or bulletproof glass into the store front
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locations. meanwhile, the community here in shock and grief over the death of petty officer randall smith who succumbed to his injuries after two this morning. he was in his mid-20s, he grew up in ohio. the governor of that state tweeting that they have lost another hero. this as investigators continue to work around the clock, delving into the suspect's background, his social media habits. they say they've uncovered nothing so far, no videos, no manifestos, nothing like that on electronic devices that would indicate he has been influenced by or directed by isis to commit these terrible crimes. those who knew him expressed surprise that he was the gunman behind this. they say he was friendly and nice. graduated with a degree in electrical engineering. it's a very stark comparison who the maen who allegedly opened fire on two military outposts killing five people four marines and one navy sailor. back to you. >> sarah, have you spoken to
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anyone or read about his return from the middle east, this seven month long trip he took last year? >> that's a very good question because that is that time period they are focusing so closely on. this april to november trip he took over to the middle east they know he was in jordan. they're looking into if he was in any other countries. the associated press spoke to one of his friends who said he noticed the big beard he'd grown and the fact that he seemed to be coming to the mosque more often. now infer from that what you will. that's what investigators were looking at. were there clues or hints? but people who've known him over the years seem shocked by this dramatic change in personality. going from a friendly nice all american type guy to somebody who would murder five military members in cold blood. >> nbc's sarah dallof in chattanooga, sarah, thank you. it's still unclear what motivated the gunman in thursday's attack. former fbi assistant director sean henry told us earlier there
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are indication this is could be an isis-inspired attack. >> isis has talked about attacks during ramadan, we're at the end of ramadan here. we look at the target which was this military recruiting station. look at the fact he had traveled overseas. i think the investigation is still young and the fbi is continuing to look at many different issues and areas to try and determine what the actual motivation is here. but certainly the fact that he was radicalized is right on the table and looks like a very possible reason for this. >> and that's what we're seeing at this point, sean. are you seeing a warning sign that could have been putting up warning flags before that we missed with this shooter? >> i don't know, alex. everything that i've seen here says that there is no glaring warning sign. typically when the fbi is involved in these types of investigations you've got somebody who's engaged in social media. they raise themselves up on the radar, they've made statements at the mosques that they attend
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or they've talked to somebody and there is something a little more obvious. in this case it does not appear to be that glaring issue that should have caused some concern. and honestly if you've got somebody who self-radicalizes they don't even talk about it. those are the things that the fbi and law enforcement won't have the ability to identify in answer advance of this attack. >> he was a naturalized citizen from kuwait. all of his childhood friends across the board are shocked at this tragedy. how does the u.s. pivot? how do we detect these lone wolf attacks and try to prevent them? >> that's a great question. there's this constant balance between privacy, civil liberties and security. you can't have 100% of both. honestly the american public doesn't want the government monitoring every single transmission you've heard recent debates, publicly about what the nsa or the fbi can or cannot listen to and people have said very adamantly that they don't want the government listening to
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this. when somebody gets killed we hear why didn't the government know? there's this constant balance and the american public is going to have to ask what type of civil liberties will we relinquish in order to ensure that there's a higher level of security. >> former fbi assistant director sean henry, thanks so much for that. we are learning more about some of the victims' final moments. lance corporal squire wells, known as skip, was texting his girl different, caroline dove who was supposed to visit him soon. he wrote "can't wait anymore." she replayed "yes you can, honey." his next two words would be the last she would ever hear from him. all in bold caps. "active shooter." she wrote and said "you are so weird." then came hours of silence. "i love you" she tried. hours more passed eded with the news of chattanooga becoming clearer. then she wrote "i need you to answer me please." she didn't find out until friday
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what happened to him. new information coming in a few minutes ago that drones interfered in the effort to contain a wild fire that overran a packed freeway near los angeles. it happened yesterday in the el cajon pass. drivers and passengers had no choice but to abandon their cars and flee. in the end this is what was left. more than 20 charred vehicles and many stunned motorists. >> my husband said we have to go. and we did. he was dragging me up that mountain. >> reporter: did you think that was it for you? >> i did. i really did. >> very few injuries joining me now is gadi schwartz. gadi, i know there's a lot to talk about but the news with these drones interfering with firefighters, what happened there? >> well you can imagine the feelings that these people that had their cars lost in these -- in this fire that blew over.
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that question is did these drones prevent fire apparatus, fire aircraft from coming in and saving their cars? saving their property. the answer we've been told by forest officials is it could have contributed to it. they are looking at possibly about a 15-to 20-minute delay. five drones were in the air when this fire first started and they actually had aircraft up. that aircraft out of a safety precaution, had to dump their retardant and return back to one of the airfields. that's a lot of precious time lost in a very very life-and-death situation. i. >> what's it like now? >> they're keeping the containment numbers the same. last night we went into containment numbers at 5%. we're still seeing the same containment numbers. the reason why is you're seeing
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the wind blowing. they know the wind is going to pick up. el cajon pass is a very very well-known place for the wind gusts. it's one of the things that fuelled the fire yesterday so they're making sure those containment lines are strong. we saw them making progress last night. but last night they didn't have to contend with winds they're seeing now. >> looks like traffic is moving smoothly. is that true? >> yeah yeah. it's a very good thing, too. this is i-15 the main corridor between las vegas and los angeles. a very very busy corridor. when we were driving by a little while ago, they had actually -- they took k-rails and built a barrier. but other than that you couldn't see where the fire had come through on the actual roadway because they had repaved last night. they had a big machine out and they were relaying the asphalt in some areas those rails are protecting the areas burned out yesterday. a lot of progress. they're down to one lane closed
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right now northbound -- southbound. but as you can see traffic is moving. >> yeah, well that's good and impressive to be able to fix it up that quickly. gadi schwartz thank you so much. 10 of the 15 republican candidates for the party's nomination are in iowa. they will take part in panel discussions at the family leadership conference. it will also be a test for the candidate with all the buzz donald trump. religious conservatives are not trump's base of support. trump continues to garner attention. in fact, here's what he said last night in arkansas. >> if hillary gets in this country is in big trouble because she won't take back our jobs from china, she's totally controlled by people that love china and if jeb bush gets in same thing. it's a pool tigs. they put up $100 million for him. they will totally control him just like a puppet. they will totally control hillary just like a puppet.
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>> msnbc's benjy sarlin is in ames iowa. first, how is donald trump being received there? >> well he was welcomed with a huge ovation. he had enthusiastic cheering. getting to the point you mentioned. there's 10 potential presidents over here, 10 candidates but how do they get a headline when donald trump is speaking? well, i think we know the answer to that today. they probably aren't going to get too many. because donald trump just on the stage extended his critique of former republican presidential nominee john mccain, taking issue with his war hero at the us the because, trump says he failed by getting captured in vietnam where john mccain was tortured and later refused to be given back to the americans without his fellow soldiers also being returned. so i think it's fair to say there's going to be quite a bit of attention to trump's feud with john mccain right now which is just getting uglier and more personal by the minute. >> i'm curious. does anyone in the audience
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retort or push back when donald trump says outrageous things like that? >> now, in this case i could not hear -- i'm getting the transcripts from that particular event. i was here set up by the camera this was moments ago. so i can't tell you the audience reaction. but it's going to be curious at what point the bloom comes off the rose for trump with some of these people who have been if not necessarily supporting his candidacy at least enjoying it or getting something out of -- some pleasure out of watching him say these things that are so normally out of bounds for presidential candidates. and i think going after someone who has his disagreements with the conservatives but is still venerated for his war service within the party, i think that may start to hit the limits here. >> i understand there are no official candidate speeches only these panel discussions. why is that? >> the event is being emceed by frank luntz who is known for conducting focus groups he's a
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republican strategist who focuses on how republicans can use the best language, the best messaging. so he's trying to give this a more intimate spin this time in which he asks the candidates individually not just his own questions but brings aud y ens members in to ask their own kwenss in order to get people off canned talking points and see how they can perform under these more intimate more pressured perhaps situations. and judging by trump's answers we're getting interesting responses. >> why am i not surprised, benjy sarlin in ames iowa? thank you so much. new reaction to the iran deal from that country's supreme leader. why is he calling the u.s. arrogant after endorsing the nuclear agreement? million years ago. like our van. yeah. we need to sell it. hi. need an appraisal?
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surrounding the historic deal with iran. in his weekly address this morning, the president says this deal will bring more security to the u.s. and the world. the landmark agreement is set to cut off tehran's pathway to a nuclear weapon and any violation will bring back crippling sanctions. kristen welker is joining me from the white house. kristen, good day to you. the president says keeping this deal intact is in everybody's best interest but, of course not everybody agrees to that. >> opponents say this deal isn't tough enough. now the white house has an uphill battle. white house officials know realistically they might not get the deal approved by congress. the goal interestingly, alex, is to try to get a veto-proof number of lawmakers on board. having said that, the president does want robust support from congress to present the united front to the international community. here's what you can expect in the coming weeks. a full court press from the white house as the president and top officials try to build up that support. we started to see that strategy emerge this week.
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vice president biden met with lawmakers on capitol hill, president obama held that unique press conference that lasted for more than an hour in which he asked for more questions once his list of reporters had run out. and his weekly address not surprisingly also focuses on the iran deal. take a listen to what he had to say. >> we held out for a deal that met every one of our bottom lines and we got it. does this deal resolve all of the threats to its neighbors in the world? no. does it do more than anyone has done before to make sure iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon? yes. and that was our top priority from the start. >> another factor complicated president obama's attempt to sell this deal to congress is their strong opposition to his decision to submit the adord the united nations. that happened this week and happened before congress has gotten to vote on it. they have 60 days. to that the white house is arguing that it's not going to be begin implementing the plan until the congressional review
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period is finished. still lawmakers have called the move an "affront." i spent time on capitol hill this week. i can tell you the president has his work cut out for him because his most ardent supporters say they have deep concerns about this deal which underscores how much skepticism he's facing. this is going to be the next big fight in washington. >> what you're saying evidenced in conversations i've had with democrats on the air this week. joining us now with her perspective is joer is rinse yoen the president of the plow shares global fund foundation and author of "nuclear nightmares securing the world before it's too late." he's also a member of secretary kerry's international security advisory board. joe, i want to ask you what the u.s. had to give up to make this deal. what's the worst of it? >> that's one of the surprising parts about this deal. there are very few u.s. concessions here. you see iran giving much more than we did.
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they have to give up 98% of the gas they would use to feed centrifuges, they have to pull out the core of the plutonium production reactor, drill it full of holes and pour cement into it, cutting off the plutonium path to a bomb. what agreement requires a country to do this kind of thing? that's why for me this is the strongest anti-nuclear agreement i've ever seen and i've been in this field for over 30 years. it's a diplomatic triumph. >> but what is the worst we did have to give up in your opinion? >> we wanted bans to last longer than otherwise would. we would have preferred a permanent ban, for example, on iran's ability to reprocess plutonium. instead we just got a commitment for 15 years. so in 15 20 years, there were parts of this agreement that expire andel that that will present a problem not for the next president but for the
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president after that. but that's a huge amount of time in nuclear agreements. most of the agreements we negotiate last ten years, 15 years and they're done. this lasts considerably longer and parts of the agreement, like the ban on iran ever doing any nuclear weapons work or this unprecedented inspection regime, those are like diamonds they last forever. >> so, joe, raising -- lifting the sanctions, that will bring more noun the iranian regime. >> yes. >> so knowing some of the money will be filtered to terror groups, how do you think that was weighed in making the deal? >> from the beginning, the sanctions that the bush administration put on and then the obama administration administration added these were always intended to be lifted. the point of the sanctions was to get this deal. so under any conceivable scenario these sanctions were going to come off and policymakers, republicans and democrats, understood this was a benefit iran would get. . the that's what they get from
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this deal. what we get is we get to dismantle their nuclear infrastructure. they get to keep the buildings, we take out all the equipment. so there's a price that iran -- a reward iran gets for this but overall most experts believe that that $100 billion windfall will be used to make the economic dands ofemands of the iranian system which has been in dire straits for years. there's been tremendous pressure from the people to get the economy moving again. >> there was a criticism the u.s. was not able to get a commitment from iran to release the four american citizens being held by the tehran government. >> there was not one meeting that took place where we did not raise the issue of american citizens being held. we remain very, very hopeful that iran will make a decision to do the right thing to return
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those citizens to the united states. >> do you know joe, were there any indications iranians might soften their stance on these four americans? >> these kinds of discussions are very tightly held and no information on that has leaked out. we have to keep this deal in perspective. it doesn't stop iran's support for terrorism. it doesn't free these prisoners. it doesn't cure cancer. it's not going to help you shed unwanted pounds. it does only one thing -- it stops iran from getting a bomb. whatever else iran does it won't have a nuclear bomb in its back pocket. >> how about this though? does this deal get any implications for the fight against isis? might we see some level of cooperation there? >> here's where you should look at this deal. it's a gateway, it solves the biggest problem between the united states and iran and the rest of the world. and it opens up the possibility of conversations. u.s./iran cooperation to fight isis.
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it's the mortal enemy of both of our countries. watch particularly for u.s. iranian and russian cooperation to try to end to the bloody civil war in syria. will it lead to the release of the prisoners? we don't know. without this deal, none of those conversations would have been possible. this opens up scenarios that could be quite favorable for u.s. national security. >> okay, as always, the conversation much appreciated. joe cirincione thank you. >> thank you, alex. the nation knew about his strange disappearance and extra marital affair. what was it like to work with mark sanford? a former speech writer is revealing it. are you looking for a relaxing vacation in? the states topping the list for the most peaceful states in america coming up. ♪ to steady betty. to steady betty. fire it up! ♪ am i the only one with a meeting? i've got two. yeah we've gotta go.
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officer randall smith, died today as a result of injuries. smith was wounded in thursday's shooting at a navy recruiting facility. the attacks have renewed calls to arm military personnel at recruitment offices. joining me now, military analyst colonel jack jacobs. colonel, welcome to you, sir. we have the governors of florida and louisiana making changes in the wake of all this. you have florida's rick scott who just announced that he wants national guard recruiters to move to their nearest armory instead of staying at store front locations that you see in strip malls. and louisiana's bobby jindal is ordering his state's national guard to arm guardsmen at military facilities. so you think this is the start of something we'll see happening at more centers? >> i think so. don't forget, the guard is the governor's own army. he can do whatever he wants with it. i think you'll see an increasing number of guard units taking up big you are security positions. with respect to recruitment officers, though it depends. it depends on where it is. if you go downtown here two
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blocks from here at times square there's a recruitment center right in the middle of times square thousands and thousands of tourists all around. i don't think you'll see those recruiting officers armed in other places you're liable to be. in new york, for example that area is protected by new york city police with assault weapon pistols and dogs too, other areas they have to rely on the he crueters to get properly trained in order to defend themselves. >> i would imagine a lot of training is needed. what needs to happen to get that done. >> it's not enough to just arm people and train them to use weapons. they have to be trained in the use of the weapons in built up areas. extremely difficult to do. is the police do it all the time but they train on it all the time. so any recruiters who will be armed and will be in urban areas, strip malls and places where they recruit will have to get initial and continual
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traininged on how to use those weapons and situations. >> how do you think recruiters being armed or not armed impacts recruiting? >> i think that it's going to have a damper on recruiting. don't forget the reason recruiters are in the middle of the communities where they recruit is for a reason and if they'll be armed and visibly so if there will be visible protection for them we won't put them behind sandbags and so on but it will make it more difficult to recruit. those people are in the middle of communities because they're part of the community, especially if they're recruiting for the guard this will have a damper on recruit. >> is there something that can be done from a military stand point to prevent something like this from happening again? >> the only thing i can think of and the only thing that makes sense, and it's not just me saying this is better intelligence. we have to do a better job of focusing on what may happen. on focusing on the possible
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attacks. in this particular case, it might have been impossible but i would like to know where this guy was for the last -- for the seven months after he left to go to jordan where he got his ak-47 from. not impossible to get but where did he get it from? there's going to have to be much heightened intelligence gathering information, processing it properly and to be honest with you the government to say nothing of the military doesn't have the capability to do that with the resources they have. >> okay. colonel jack jacobs, thank you, colonel. >> you bet. >> in the moment why the best golfers in the world can't fight mother nature. do you like the passaaadd? it's a good looking car. this is the model rear end event. the model year end sales event. it's year end! it's a rear end event. year end, rear end check it out. talk about turbocharging my engine. you're gorgeous. what kind of car do you like? new, or many miles on it? get a $1000 volkswagen reward card on select 2015
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new york state is reinventing how we do business by leading the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes. we enacted the lowest corporate tax rate since 1968. we eliminated the income tax on manufacturers altogether. with startup-ny, qualified businesses that start, expand or relocate to new york state pay no taxes for 10 years. all to grow our economy and create jobs. see how new york can give your business the opportunity to grow at ny.gov/business the opposition stands. that was the message from iran's ayatollah khamenei in an address marking the end of ramadan. the supreme leader paid tribute to the nuclear deal negotiators but said it will not change iran's policy towards united states. joining me now is iranian
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american journalists who was in iran with the negotiations. is the this rhetoric or will the u.s./iran relationship not change? >> a big portion of it is rhetoric or for domestic a purposes as u.s. and iranian diplomats have mastered in the past two years. but i think at the same time i'm not expecting the u.s. and iran relationships to change overnight. there has been toning down on the anti-american -- the very explicit anti-american rhetoric but i don't see it to change any time soon in the very near future specifically because the group who is the most vocal in the american american rhetoric is the one who are considered the losers after this deal. so they might try to step up the rhetoric to show a reaction to the world or to americans that we're not losers nothing has changed and don't get your hopes high. but i think a lot of it will go
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away in the longer term. >> of whom are you speaking specifically? is that the reaction you're telling us from the conservative clerics in the assembly? >> conservative -- we wouldn't even be able to just call them clerics because the president of iran is a cleric right now, he's a moderate cleric, the one who was in charge of breaking in nuclear deal with president obama but yeah the more conservative side of the iranian power structure, the more hardline side i would say, a big portion of the revolutionary guards armed forces in iran and people who have just had this older revolutionary rhetoric that was built on a lot of anti-american or anti-western agenda. but i think that started to change. the younger population has influenced them so much and this deal a big sign and result of this change. >> what is the impact going to be for iranians -- the average iranian when the sanctions are lifted? >> there's going to be huge economic impacts for iranians. iran has been isolated from the world economically financially,
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the young people are the ones that are suffering, the middle-class is the one that has been suffering because of the mismanagement of the previous administration and also a lot of it because of the economic and financial sanctions. so there will be foreign investment coming some of iran's assets will be blocked and it will boost the economy, the unemployment rate that's very high. it will also have political implications for iranians both inside iran and in the world. iranians have been politically isolated and seen as a very dark country or society and the people are just not happy about it. they're happy to rejoin the world world. one of the slogans people had on the streets dancing was "hello world." so it's not just economic but also political, i think. >> do you think from the very beginning this deal was a fate acome plea? meaning iran had to make this deal because had they not there
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might have been civil unrest among its citizens if they didn't get the sanctions lifted? >> i think there's a combination of many different factors and moving parts. one of them was the sanctions but i think the way i look at it is a little bit reversed. the population wanted this change. the population was yearning for this opening up of engagement so they pushed a moderate president and they made this happen in a constructive engagement way as opposed to the previous administration who was just going head to head with the u.s. and the west. there was a threat of war and more sanctions. but i think the moderates were able to sort of solve it in the country in a moderate way and with the world in a moderate way. >> give you give me a crystal ball perspective? 1520 years from now when elements of this deal have expired and it comes to renegotiating, do you expect it will be as difficult as it was
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this time? will it be easier because maybe there's a more moderate level of leadership? the country? >> alex, if we move at the same speed we've been moving right now. within the next 10, 15 years we'll see so much openings. it's so much harder to close it down, that's how change has been happening in iranian society in the past 30 years. from the outside it looks like you go one step back but it's always a steady move forward that i think in the next ten years with the past. let's not forget the u.s. and iran haven't been talking to each other for 30 years. they're been calling each other evil and satan on both sides. the president has had a phone call a year ago, two years ago and the foreign ministers have been meeting every month and this is unprecedented for both sides, the political sides of
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both countries. if we move with the speed, if everything moves well if nothing gets out of hand. we'll see so much more openings. >> let's hope. thank you so much. >> thank you. looking at other stories making news. in nairobi, kenya, the west gate shopping mall reopened today for the first time since being attacked by al shabab militants. isis is now claiming responsibility for a deadly truck bombing in iraq. at least 115 people were killedment it happened when the mostly shiite victims were gathered to mark the end of ramadan. this is one of the deadliest single attacks in iraq in the past decade. weather is putting a damper on the british open. it's headed for a monday finish after the second round was suspended. then this morning after only 32 minutes, play was halted again by high winds. it will be the first monday finish at the british open since
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1988. here at home miserable weather as well. the skies opened up during a music festival. tens of thousands had to leave. and in the northeast, we saw some rain and lower temperatures earlier today but the heat is on the way. reynolds wolf is here with more on the weather headlines. hi reynolds. >> alex my friend we had rough weather last night in parts of the upper midwest near minneapolis. now today we'll see more of the same possibly driving off into the great lakes and parts of the corn belt so rough times there. another big story we're following is not going to be what you're going to see but rather what you're going to feel. a lot of heat affecting some 67 million people from the gulf coast, parts of the central plains into the ohio valley and even into the great lakes. serious heat, high humidity. it's something we'll deal with for days to come. point in case what you can see in places like nashville, those temperatures soaring into the 90s. with high humidity it will feel much warmer. atlanta, new orleans dallas houston all dealing with the
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same. the tropics are heating up. to the pacific we go. keeping a sharp eye on tropical storm delores. it's about 380 miles south-southwest of cabo san lucas. i'll tell you, this moisture may make its way into portions of the desert southwest and could help spawn some flooding. you have to monsoonal pattern high aloft and you can v v rain stacking up including flagstaff, tucson albuquerque, palm springs may also get in the mix. alex, it's a snapshot of what's hag around the country. let's send it back to you. why tensions will again be high at the south carolina statehouse today one week after the confederate flag came down. a live report next.
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riess. adam, what are you seeing on the ground there? >> reporter: two separate rallies, alex one already under way. black leaders, black educators for justice just began their rally. we expect to see the kkk. they will gather on the south lawn of the state capital. they are protesting the removal of the confederate flag. they say the government is trying to take away their confederate history and white heritage. a fair number of people have shown up to watch the rallies. they're just hoping for peace. >> what you're going to see today a lot is going to be a division effort and so what we have to do is make sure we keep the spirit of unity together for all south carolinians and all americans. >> reporter: the last time the kkk was here in columbia was 28 years ago, back in 1988. there's a lot of security here a lot of police surrounding this state capital. the southern poverty law center says back in 1925 there were
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some four million members of the kkk. today only 4,000. and they say the group is weak divided, and poorly led. alex? >> adam i don't know if your cameraman is able to do this but if there's any way to look into that crowd over your shoulder. i know governor nikki haley said these are -- that the klan rallies is a hateful spectacle and called for residents to avoid that one. you said that doesn't start until 3:00. but this one behind you looks fairly well attended. >> a couple dozen people alex. peaceful, obviously, a couple speakers. the person who is supposed to speak today has not arrived yet. they are called -- this group is the black educators for justice. they're also a group of lawyers involved. i can tell you that the governor, governor haley who you just mentioned and the mayor, mayor benjamin of columbia here have told people to stay away and ignore these two rallies. they said these are just simply too hate groups that should not
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get any attention. add. >> adam riess, thanks so much for that. a disappearance and an apair were not even the most bizarre antics from congressman and then south carolina governor mark sanford. wait until you hear the story about a birthday cake his former speech writer joins us next. about a biologic this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me reach for more. doctors have been prescribing humira for more than 10 years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contrubutes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers including lymphoma have happened, as have blood liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to
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. let me also apologize to my staff because as much as i did talk about going the appalachian trail, that was one of the original scenario ss, so i let them down by creating a fictional to where i was going. >> well that was current congressman and then south carolina governor mark sanford back in 2009. a new memoir from sanford's former speech writer paints a picture of a statehouse in disarray, claiming the governor's disappearance and extramarital affair were only the most public in a string of bizarre behaviors.
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joining me now barton swaem, author of "the speech writer" chronicling his four years of working for governor sanford. i want to make note you never mention the governor by name in this book. >> right. and the reason far was that i wanted the book to be about politics in general or to sort of general ralize or universalize the story to be about a lot of things that happen in politics and not just make it about one politician or one scandal. >> okay. kind of sounds like you signed up hopeing for the west wing experience and you got "veep." >> before i took the job, the job of speech writer had always sounded mysterious and romantic. like a writer but with power. i took the job and discovered it was having very much different.
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and the book is about my learning curve, downward curve in some ways. there's a lot of comedy. i knew right away that i wanted to write a book about this experience. partly because politics is kind of -- it's crazy and full of vanity and betrayals. part ly partly partly because i had a weird boss. boss. >> you write "what had taken me two years to realize was that the governor wasn't trying to hurt you for him to hurt you means he had to acknowledge your significance. if you were on his staff, he had no knowledge of your person hood." what was driving this treatment? >> right. and i think some politicians are, you know, officials or people are w significant power are this way.
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they're so incredibly focused on what they're doing and their goals that the people around them or the people that work for them aren't really there until they need them. and that's just the way he operated. it wasn't personal. as i say. so you couldn't take it personally or cry about it or be super upset about it. in fact, there was a weird sort of camaraderie in the office because of this. we all knew that he was this way. it's just the way the office ran. >> the culmination of all this were the revelations of governor sanford's extra marital affair following the infamous appalachian hiking trip when he was actually in argentina. in fact, the phrase "hiking the appalachian trail" will never be uttered without its double entendre. what was the reception when he finally returned? >> well it's sort of the weirdest moment a very weird job. and there were -- i don't know how to describe it exactly. but everyday you would wake up in the morning and think "i have
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this crazy dream." but it wasn't a dream. there was some anger, some confusion about should i start sending out resumes? what should we do? but for me i peerngsed all those responses but somewhere inside because i'm a writer and i like to -- you know i have this inner compulsion to write about the things i see, somewhere i thought "wow, that's a good story to write about." and so it gave this kind of comic cal story that i had in my mind a narrative of very quick rise and a weird and dramatic fall. >> well, in terms of stories, one of the more bizarre ones involves a staffer's birthday party and this missing piece of cake. what happened? >>. [ laughter ] well, to go back to the self-focus. so if you or i, alex saw a birthday cake that hadn't been
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cut yet and candles in it that hadn't been burned -- >> right. >> -- we would probably not cut ourselves a piece. >> right, you leave it alone, uh-huh. >> so the birthday cake is there and i was just watching and the governor as he then was came by and cut himself a slice, put it on a plate and walked out. it's just this crazy self-focus thing. >> uh-huh. okay. was he mad at the staffer? mad at all of you guys or he just didn't want to have cake with you? >> no. no not mad at us. at that point just wanted a piece of cake. that's the extent of. >> it have you heard from the governor or staff since you wrote the book? >> i haven't. i've spoken to a couple of old staffers they've e-mail med or called. in fact, i ran into one on a plane last night and there was some -- a lot of jokes between us but i haven't heard from
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congressman sanford. >> i should say neither have we. we reached out to his office and didn't hear back. but nonetheless it's gotten great reviews and it was very entertain for all of us as we put this segment together to read parts of it with a lot of laughter. so the speech writer is the book barton swain, thank you for talking with us. >> thank you, alex. the head of planned parenthood apologizeing for a top staffer caught discussing a practice on m find abhorrent on an undercover tape the editor says is heavily ed ted. (glasses clinking) ♪ (ground shaking) well there goes the country club. the 2015 dodge durango. now with available beats audio. if you qualify for a sittingham's
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he lost. so i never liked him as much after that because i don't like losers. but, frank, frank, let me get to it. >> he's a war hero. >> he's a war hero? he's a war hero because he was captured. >> msnbc's benjy sarlin is in ames iowa this afternoon. all right, he was talking the last time you and i spoke on the air. now people are out. what has been the reaction to his comments on senator john mccain? >> well donald trump pivoted immediately from that speech to a press wrchsconference where he talked at length with reporters. he got a lot of questions, including from me, about the comment he is made from john mccain. some of the reporters from ideological conservative outlets were very outright combative with him in the questioning, challenging him to substantiate his remarks. what was bizarre is you just heard the audio there of john mccain saying he's -- saying he's not a war hero because he was captured. i like people who weren't
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captured. when he came in to talk to us he immediately denied he said anything of the sort. said of course p.o.w.'s are war heroes unless they're someone like bowe bergdahl who donald trump allege betrayed the country. so it's a very odd display of him essentially telling us to believe him and not our lying ears about what he just said about john mccain's war record. but he made clear that there's no love lost between him and john mccain. he said mccain has not done enough for veterans in the senate and listed a whole bunch of insults directed his way, in particular for john mccain saying that donald trump supporters were "crazies who were fired up by his talk about illegal immigration." >> so he says something and you tell him what he said and he denies it and -- okay, that's just weird. let's move on to this. what are other republicans trying to do to draw attention a way from trump or in that this setting is that impossible? >> there's not a lot you can do here. you can try to draw attention
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away from trump but eventually you'll have to confront his remarks in some way or another. i can't stress enough how much this takes the oxygen out of events like this. you have 10 presidential candidates speaking. it will be difficult for any of them to get a meaningful headline or press when there's a circus going around every time donald trump makes a comment like this. it's impossible not to cover it and it's impossible not to cover the reactions to it. >> so difficult for anyone to get traction. >> benjy sarlin, thank you very much. developing now another death from thursday's shooting at a pair of military sites in tennessee. navy petty officer second class randall smith died of his wounds early this morning. smith was a reservist serving on active duty at the chattanooga center when a gunman opened fire killing him and four marines. it comes as investigators by mohammad youssuf abdulazeez saying "this life is short and bitter and the opportunity to submit to allah may pass you by.
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the fbi is aware of the blog and is waiting to confirm whether or not it was his. investigators found he visited the middle east last month and when he returned he grew a beard and attended religious services more frequently. there appears to be no clear motive but investigators say abdulazeez was heavily armed. >> he did have at least two long guns which would be considered rifles or shotguns and he did have one handgun we're aware of. some of the weapons were purchased legally and some may not have been. >> memorials continue to grow in honor of those kill and there are calls to arm military recruiters. for more, let's go to sarah dallof who joins us live from chattanooga. sarah, i know the day has been bringing a lot of visitors, people coming by leaving mementos and thoughts. it's been emotional in chattanooga. >> very emotional, alex. we've seen people break down in tears as they visited this growing memorial behind me.
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you can see so many american flags, hundreds at this point as well as flower stuffed animal, handwritten signs and cards. this grief and shock the community is feeling pouring out. this is where they have to pay tribute to what is now five fallen members of the military. now, you mentioned renewed calls to step up security at these reserve and recruitment centers. the army has agreed to do so following this debate. several steps already taking steps of their own, for example, florida has ordered military personnel at six store front locations to report to their nearest armory for now. we also have learning more about navy sealer randall smith, he was in his mid-20s, grew up in ohio, now lives here in the southeast. a neighbor tells us he was a husband and he had three children, a lot of ifthe people coming out here very grief stricken, very affected by the news of his death. >> oh, sarah, it's --
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>> i came here today for healing for myself. and when i came here the emotion is so overwhelming and the love is so great. the tears naturally came. >> meanwhile, the investigation into the shooter and his background continues. authorities have obtained all of his electronic devices. they have been going through them. they say they've uncovered no evidence in them or anywhere else online social media or writings that he was inspired by or directed by isis to commit these crimes. still they say this is a terrorism investigation. they're focusing specifically on the trip he took to the middle east last april through november. they know he visited jordan where his father is from. they're looking if he visited other countries. he has two passports, a jordanian passport and an american passport. that's complicating things. meanwhile, law enforcement sources telling us about the weapons used in the attack. they say he had one ak-47
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assault style rifle, a 9 millimeter pistol and he was wearing a lode bearing vest alex, that allowed him to carry additional ammunition. >> sarah dallof many thanks. we are learning more about the victims' final moments. lance corporal squire wells, nobody as skip known as skip was texting his girlfriend. he wrote "can't wait anymore." she replied "yes you can, honey." his next two words would be the last she would ever hear from him. in capped letters "active shooter." she thought he was joking and said "you're so weird." then came silence. "i love you" she tried. hours more passed with the news out of chattanooga becoming clearer she wrote "hon i need you to answer me please." on friday she found out what happened to him. let's go to california now where just a short time ago we learned drones may have delayed efforts to contain this wildfire which overran a packed freeway near los angeles. it happened yesterday in the el cajon pass. hundreds of drivers were
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stranded on this traffic jammed highway and more than 20 vehicles were destroyed. drivers and passengers had no choice but to leave their cars behind. two minor injuries were reported. gadi schwartz has more on this. gadi? >> reporter: alex conditions out here definitely something that everybody is bearing in mind. very, very windy. but for the most part we understand that crews have been building these containment lines throughout the night. they're going to continue to do so. the big issue is drones. whether or not drones interfered enough with this fire fight that they possibly prevented those aircraft that were up from saving those cars. a lot of people that lost property are going to want to know if those drones could be -- the drone operators could be held responsible if they're found and how much of a role they actually played. fire officials, forest service officials, are telling us that they think they were delayed about 15 to 20 minutes because at the beginning of this fire there were five drones that were
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up and, in fact one of the drones actually seemed to follow one of the aircraft, kind of tracking it as this fire first developed. so they grounded that aircraft they dumped the retardant and they're estimating that about 15 to 20 minutes was lost. that was precious time when it came to a fire that moved as quickly as it did. you can see by the time aircraft arrived, it was a little bit too late. a lot of those vehicles were already fully engulfed and even the water being put on them wasn't enough alex. >> okay gadi schwartz thanks for that. a secretly recorded video released this week has caused a collision of medicine politics and abortion rights. planned parenthood in damage control mode apologizing for the tone of one of its officials caught on the tape. some of the conversations you may find disturbing. >> reporter: in a controversial undercover video released online this week, the senior director of medical services for planned parenthood sipping from a wine glass talks about the process
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for donating tissue from aborted fetuses for medical research. >> reporter: shot by an anti-abortion group, the center for medical progress, the heavily edited footage implies planned parenthood is making money off the tissue donation which is is against the law. >> i would say it's probably from $30 to $100. >> now the head of planned parenthood is acknowledging the official should have been more compassionate and said she's been reprimanded. >> i personally apologize for the staff member's tone and statements. >> reporter: but planned parenthood is not apologizing for the tissue donations themselves calling them legal and ethical, explaining any money collected is only used to cover costs. >> the allegation that planned parenthood profits in any way from tissue donation is not true. >> reporter: conservative lawmakers are using the video shot a year ago but rolling out now as a springboard to launch hearings on planned parenthood.
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>> i can talk about the video but i think i'd vomit trying to talk about it. it's disgusting. >> reporter: fetal tissue has been key to major medical advances like vaccines for measles and polio and researchers are using it to look for a cure for parkinson's and to help people with crushed spinal cords. last year twice as much funding went to research on embryonic stem cells compared to fetal tissue. some question whether its medical value worth the fight. >> it's not illegal to use tissue it's just that because it's so tied into the terribly divisive and difficult issue of elective abortion it remains controversial. >> that was nbc's haley jackson reporting. several states are opening their own investigations into local clinics. it's the nuclear deal heard round the world and president obama is making the case. why it will make the world safer. but can he persuade congress to give its approval? one leading lawmaker joins me in just a moment. h copd?
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there's an agreement that president obama insists serves everyone's best interest. it's set to cut off tehran's path ty a nuclear weapon and any violation will bring back crippling sanctions. jis ten kristen welker is joining me from the white house. the president said this deal will stop iran from cheating. how so? >> well look alex the president says this is the most robust inspections program that has ever been in place. he believes that's going to prevent them from cheating. still, there is stiff opposition on capitol hill from lawmakers who say, look, this deal isn't tough enough. white house officials know realistically they might not get the deal approved by congress.
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the goal -- and this is interesting, alex -- is to try to get a veto-proof number of lawmakers on board. having said that, the president does want strong support from lawmakers. he wants to be able to present a united front the international community. that's important for him politically. so this is what you can expect over the next several weeks. you're going to get a full court press from the white house, from the president and top officials here as they try to build up that support and, of course we saw that strategy start to come to service this week. you had vice president joe biden meeting with lawmakers on capitol hill. you'll recall that unforgettable press conference with president obama when he actually asked reporters for more questions once his list ran out. and then in today's weekly address, he addressed iran well. >> in this deal we have unprecedented 24/7 monitoring of iran's key num leer facilities. we have access to iran's nuclear
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supply chain. the verification process set off by this deal is comprehensive and intrusive. precisely so we can make sure iran keeps its commitments. >> reporter: now, one factor complicating president obama's attempt to seal this deal to congress to congress is that there's strong opposition. before congress votes on it they get 60 days to review it. to that argument the white house is saying they won't begin implementing the plan until the congressional review period is finish. still, some lawmakers are infuriated. one calling it an affront. now spent time on capitol hill this past week. i know you've been talking to lawmakers as well alex. the president has his work cut off for him. some of his strongest supporters say that they're still not on board with this deal. they have a lot of questions about sanctions, how quickly they're going to be snapped back and about how much access those
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inspectors are actually going to have. >> all right kristen welker thank you so much for that. in fact i have one such lawmaker in the studio right now. so thank you for joining me. i know based on your comments earlier, you commended the president when he made the deal but you are reserving full support at this point. are you closer to making a decision on where where you're going to come down now. >> here's the deal we had 60 days to review and i think that members of congress use that time so so they can make sure they're verifying what is or is not taking place. so for me i'll see when we break session. i'll meet with the individuals aa yay toa iaea to make the determination of whether or not iran is complying with the iran agreement or not. i want to talk to some of our colleagues who were part of the
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p5+1 because often times individuals forget this was not a bilateral negotiation, it was a multilateral. and it's tremendously important. and where we stand so that we can stay unified in moving forward together. so i think there's a number of members that are just trying to make sure to do their due diligence. this vote is fromly important. it reminds me of the kind of votes that we have to take place when we have to vote the way we did with the iraq scenario. that was a difficult vote. i want to make sure i dot is and crossed my ts. if this vote is taken seriously, forget the politics of it because i don't see how anybody could come out and say they're against this for for it on a couple of hours. let's show that and give it the respect it needs.
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it's a tremendous step forward. everybody and what everyone can agree upon is we don't want the outcome to be that iran has a nuclear weapon. >> do you think the president has the necessary democrats to avoid a veto override. >> i think he has the necessary democrats who are reviewing the process who could give him what he needs as far as making sure that they could not be a veto override. but individuals are focusing on it. when we left last week we had a hearing on the foreign affairs committee speaker pelosi has said she'll set up a number of meetings within the democratic caucus. there will be a number of classified meetings. this is the same kind of process that we went through in iraq. i think the president deserved the same kind of open mindness that we gave president obama when he was trying to go and go into iraq and then you make your
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determination. i have to arrive. determine that we should not go into iraq. it wasn't after doing my due diligence. members will vote however they think they should but they should first do their due diligence and not just make a decision is based upon politics. >> the lifting on the arms embargo seems to be the issue is getting the most opposition. the van for chemical weapons to be removed after five years, the ban for ballistic missiles technology after eight. how do you ensure this doesn't just open the arms floodgates and deliver to hezbollah to syria more than they're already open. >> we have to continue the pressure. i think the president has said this over and over again that the main objective here is to make sure that iran does not have a nuclear weapon. that doesn't mean we're pulling away and that's the only thing we're doing. we have to continue the kind of pressure on iran to stop being the bad actor it has been in
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that regards. giving arms to hezbollah, we have to continue and hopefully do in the a unified fashion. i stress this because -- and i'm going go to russia also and i intend on going to russia and germany and talk to folks from the e.u. i want to make sure that we can stay united because that's how we got iran to the table in the first place. i know that there were some allies of the p5+1 that were advocatesover the five and and f that's what kept us united i want to find that out. that's important to me. the only way we can do this is together. i think the united states has should great leadership on the president's part to make sure the p5+1 stay together. especially to all that's been going on in the world and our disagreement with russia recently and we don't always agree with china but for the
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president to keep all five of them together that's tremendous. that's the way we need to go in the future and i want to make sure that unity stays in intact. >> i want to ask you about the shooting in chattanooga. a fifth member of the military has died. this navy sailor. is the answer arming military recruitment centers or not? how can this be prevented? >> listen i don't think the answer to violence is more violence guns is more guns. that doesn't work. if you talk to many of the victims and my heart and soul goes out to the families of the the victims in chattanooga. if you talk to them what they will tell you and incident after incident what they want is guns to be less available. guns are more available to individuals now. it's easier to get a gun than a driver's license. something is systematically wrong with that. if you look at other countries around the world, there's less guns available to them and so therefore violent crime is much lower than it is here.
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so making guns more accessible only means more death. we've got take a real look at ourselves and say we have to make sure guns are not as accessible as they are and if we can do that that's the way to reduce the kind of unheard of tragedies we've seen taking place, the latest of which has been chattanooga. >> amen to. that representative gregory meeks, thanks so much. >> good being with you, alex. a new poll is out about same-sex marriage. has there been a real shift of opinion since the supreme court's landmark ruling? you're only young once. unless you have a subaru. (announcer) the subaru xv crosstrek. symmetrical all-wheel drive plus 34 mpg. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru.
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. welcome back to week we understand al understand a black panther meeting is being held right now and a ku klux klan rally is set in about a half hour. joining me from columbia south carolina adam riess. adam, let's talk about what you're seeing at the black panther rally and what you expect at the ku klux klan rally coming up. >> good afternoon. we're seeing a fairly heavy police presence on the ground. federal police state, local and capital police roaming the grounds at the state capital. you hear the rally behind me. that is the black educators' group. they're rallying for racial equality. an an hour and a half we expect the kkk to arrive on the south lawn. they are protesting the removal of the confederate flag that
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happened about a week nag a very emotional ceremony here at the state capital. they're protesting the fact that they feel the government is taking away their confederate history, their white heritage. for the most part today, people coming here to watch the two rallies have been peaceful. >> so today a lot is going to be a division effort and so what we have to do is make sure we keep the spirit of yuanty together for all south carolinians and all americans. >> now the last time the kkk came to columbia 27 years ago, 1988. it's a very different story today. their membership has dropped dramatically. in 1925, the southern poverty law center says they had four million members. today only 4,000 and the group says the kkk is weak divided and poorly led. >> we know the governor has called this klan rally a hateful
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spectacle, calling for residents to avoid the rally. is anyone gathering so far? >> there's some groups here they're watching. they're typically a lot of tourists as well that come to look at the statehouse and tour the beautiful grounds here. as you said, the mayor and governor saying these are two hate groups that should be ignored. they're asking people to stay away alex. >> thank you very much adam riess from south carolina. this weekend, president obama's victory lap for the iran nuclear deal is over and the sales pitch has begun. on friday he met with the saudi foreign minister and he'll set his sites on his fellow democrats in congress. the president laid out his argument at his news conference this week. >> it's incumbent on the critics of this deal to explain how an american president is in a worse position 12 13 14, 15 years from now if in fact at that
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point iran says we're going to pull out of inthe npt, kick autoinspectors and go for a nuclear bomb. if that happens, that president will be in a better position than what would happen if iran as a consequence of congress rejecting this deal decides that's it we're done negotiating, we're going after a bomb right now. joining me now michael oren former israeli ambassador the united states and a current member of the knesset. he's also the author of the new book "ally, my journey across the american/israeli divide." ambassador oren thank you for being with me sir. first question what was the alternative beyond an endless cycle of sanctions? >> good to be with you, alex. good evening from tel aviv. the alternative was a better deal. if the sanctions were maintained or strengthened if there was a
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credible military threat against iran, we in israel generally believe, not just the government, the state believes that the iranians would have been brought to make more con is sessions concessions that would have made their path to the bomb even more difficult and even more importantly in the short period would not have provided by iran with hundreds of billions of dollars in sanctions relief that the iranians themselves say they're going to use to further the fieg against america and the west. >> so is that the greatest threat to you? the concern about furthering the fight with the west increased cash flow with the lifting of the sanctions? is it more concerning to you than that of nuclear development? >> well it's like churning two -- choosing between two terrible evils. the nuclear evil we believe the path to a bomb for iran has not been closed off. in fact, the deal opens up two different paths. iran can get a bomb or keep the
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agreement and get an entire arsenal of bombs without violating the terms of the agreement. the immediate problem is the hundreds and billions of dollars in cash that will flow into iran. iran is the major state sponsor of terror in the world. iran has killed more americans than any other organization outside of al qaeda. so it's not just an israeli problem, it's an american problem. iran has entered a continental ballistic missiles that will be improved. the missiles will be able to reach the east coast of the united states where i believe your studios are in a matter of years according to intelligence estimates. iran is the backer of hezbollah hazard which has aimed 100,000 rockets at our homes, at these buildings right behind me. hezbollah is always trying to improve those rockets and make them guided missiles that can hit the studio right where i'm staying tonight. someone with a joy stick in beirut, that's where the money is going to go for. it won't go for building schools and paving roads.
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>> given the volatility of this region, do you think my state in the middle east including israel should have nuclear weapons? >> israel's long favored a region that is free of all weapons of mass destruction. it's our formal position. i'm not an ambassador but i'll give you the formal position. and when peace is achieved between arabs and arabs, arabs and iranians and israelis arabs we can work for a region free of all weapons of mass destruction. but there's a big difference between countries that seek piece with their neighbors and a country such as iran openly pledging to overthrow pro-western governments throughout the region and swearing to destroy the state of israel. we're talking about the lives of eight million people behind me alex. it's not academic for us. >> there's another aspect. i spoke with an israeli journalist.
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i'm sure you're familiar with him. he said that while the prime minister indeed believes in the iran threat he's also using it for politics to distract voters from the economic and social problems at home. what's your response to that? >> i strongly disagree. i'm not a member of the prime minister's party, i worked with him very closely as ambassador to washington for five years through 2009 and the end of 2013 i can tell you well before the current political and economic conditions in israel when israel was in a far superior economic situation in the beginning of 2009 when america was in the depths of financial crisis, israel's economy was going quite well. the iranian issue occupied his attention pretty much 24/7. he deeply believes this is a -- that the iranian nuclear program presents not one but several existential threats to israel. i must tell you, i'm in knesset now, i'm in a different ken jet a multiparty system we agree on
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nothing, the one thing we agree on that this is a bad deal. >> talk about that in comparison to the deal, if you will back in 1994 with north korea. you've made an analogy to that which is happening with iran and how that has dissolved. >> well north korea remains in many ways our nightmare. north korea -- it was a similar deal involving international inspectors, it was also relief of sanctions against north korea, north korea was readmitted to the community of nations and the world would be made a safer place, quote/unquote. we found the north koreans cheated, violated the agreement, they managed to fool the inspectors and to experiment and explode nuclear weapons and now north korea is a nuclear armed country. why is it an a worse nightmare for us? north korea is not the world's largest state sponsor of terror
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iran is. north korea is not lettening to over -- threatening to wipe another country entirely off the map. iran is. iran from an israeli perspective and not just an israeli perspective, it's an arab perspective. it's one of the things not only israelis agree on but israelis and arabs agree on, israel is a threat par excellence to the world. >> do you expect whatever state that is to continue into the next presidency? >> i think israeli u.s. relations -- and i know them quite personally over the course of working with them for well over 30 years is a multifaceted and deep relationship. it's between congress and israel, the american people and israel israel. there are deep divides, hence the subtitle of my book "my journey across the american/israeli divides." one divide is the iranian issue.
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the iranian issue has many differences of opinion. america is a big country far away from the middle east. wriz is a small country, we're in iran's backyard. but there's a fundamental disagreement about the nature of the iranian regime and president obama has gone on record saying the iranian regime is rational anti-semitic but rational, you can cut a deal with them. from israeli perspective, we can not afford to name slight esther or are with iran. we have zero margin of error. we believe it's an irrational regime that's pledged to destroy this country. we have no choice. it's our responsibility our duty to take those threats seriously. >> former israeli ambassador the united states, michael oren thank you so much for your time. what donald trump said today about john mccain's status as a war hero is already generating plenty of reaction. what he said and the affect it could have on the presidential race coming up. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on
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s progressive democrats are descending on phoenix for the net roots conference. today they have been been hearing from two democratic presidential candidate, bernie sanders and martin o'malley. they will not hear from hillary clinton, she is skipping the event. when she last attended in 2007 she was booed by the crowd. msnbc's jane tim is in phoenix for us. jane, with a welcome to you. does hillary clinton risk losing anything by skipping this net roots event? >> you know the net roots nation crowd is the progressive crowd so it's the crowd that hillary struggles the most with and people here say, you know this was a good opportunity for her to come and prove her progressive credentials to the people who care the most about them. the organizers have a really large reach, all of their leaders are here this weekend. people say they won't hold it
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against her in a november election but it's a missed opportunity for her. >> what's on the agenda? what can we expect? >> in the absence of himry i think it will be center stage on martin o'malley and bernie sanders. they'll make their pitch that they are the progressive alternative to hillary clinton. bernie sanders is the favorite this weekend. he has a long history of going after economic populism issues and economic inequality that's really key to this crowd. so i think we'll see how martin o'malley can stack up against bernie sanders '30 years of talking about these issues and see how much of a celebrity bernie sanders is. this is the elizabeth warren crowd. they wanted her to run and in the absence of her they're looking to see who might fill her shoes. >> okay. it's going to be interesting to see how it all fares. thank you very much jane timm for that. there's been a firestorm of reaction on the internet to donald trump's comments. it happened about an hour ago. we'll bring you those comments next.
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escalated with some pointed commented from the presidential candidate. >> i supported him for president. i raised a million dollars for him. i supported him. he lost. he let us down. but you know, he lost. i didn't like him as much after that because i don't like losers. frank, let me get to him. >> he's a war hero. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured okay. i hate to tell you that. he's a war hero because he was captured. >> okay. let's bring in jonathan alter, political analyst. you heard what he said. is john mccain not a war hero because he was captured. >> first of all, he won't win the republican nomination and he never was. this will hurt him. it was quintessential trump idiotic comment.
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at the time john mccain was spending 5.5 years in captivity, much in solitary confinement in north vietnam. trump was getting money from his father in queens to dabble in real estate. for him to say anything about anyone in uniform, beyond a prison of war. is confounding -- >> we have benji there covering the event and he said in the post press conference and people asked him what he said and he said i didn't say that and do not believe your lying ears. so i mean how long will this continue? >> well there are certain number of republican primary voters and independent voters who still find him appealing on some splendid level so he appeals to
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their worst instincts. the road show is entertaining for the press so it hasn't gotten tire some quite yet but we might look back on this as the moment it turned into the side show that it has really been all along but for the last few weeks because of his popularity in the polls we haven't quite recognized. >> the huffington post as you know decided they will put all coverage of his candidacy on the entertainment cue, next to coverage of the bachelorette. that seems like a little bit of hype or they were trading hit for at the but is there some -- hit for tat, but can they do that? >> no. i noticed there was a whole
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column of the presidential candidates, and she said there were only 14, pretending trump waend a candidate. they want the media to stop paying attention to him. as long as popular as he is in the polls, he needs to be in the debates and considered to be a candidate. i hate to say don't discriminate against donald trump and they set up the rules, you get in the debrises if you reach a -- debates if you reach a certain threshold but that doesn't mean that idiot pondities could say he is a republican nominee or the future president of the united states because that isn't going to happen. but we've had plenty of candidates in both parties who have rub mostly for the entertainment value, mostly to increase the lecture dates or in trump's case defeat his ego for other motives than an actual chance at becoming president. and just because they don't have
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a chance doesn't mean that we can ignore them altogether. >> but here is what former texas governor rick perry just tweeted about the comments. as a fellow veteran i resect john mccain because he volunteered to serve his country, i can not say the same about mr. trump. is that a sampling of what we'll see and can that drown out the comments ultimately? >> in the next couple of days it is a very big story and trump will probably have to apologize or something. >> which i don't think he's in the habit of doing so i think that will be interesting to watch. at that point, things will resume, he'll go down a little bit in the polls because of this. but it is not like the people that have been for him up to this point are going to go oh, he said something crazy. he's been saying this kind of thing in various realms for a
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long time so i don't think the support will evaporate. >> thankfully you never say anything crazy jonathan. thank you so much. that wraps up "weekends with alex witt." up next, caught on camera. are you moving forward fast enough? everywhere you look, it strategy is now business strategy. and a partnership with hp can help you accelerate down a path created by people, technology and ideas. to move your company from what it is now...
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