american express' timeless safety and security are now available on apple pay. the next evolution of membership is here. war hero because he was captured. i like people who weren't captured. i hate to tell you. all right. good morning. thanks for getting up with us this sunday morning. we have a busy morning in store for you today including, but not limited to how donald trump, you just heard it there, how he is stirring new outrage. reaction from the republican party and beyond. has he finally gone too far? is this the beginning of the end of the trump surge? we'll get into that in a few minutes. we'll be sitting down for breakfast with senator chuck schumer from new york.

we begin in tennessee. we're learning more about the alleged shooter. sarah dallof has more on that. >> reporter: processing the second location where the marines were killed will take more time. they are chasing down some 200 leads right now into the suspected gunman and his background. his family released a statement, which reads in part quote, there are no words to describe our shock, horror and grief. this person who committed this horrible crime was not the son we knew and loved for many years, our son suffered from depression. it grieves us beyond bheef that

his pain found its expression in this heinous act of violence. the families gather here to pray and eventually making their location to the second shooting where they held an emotional vigil. church services are expected to touch on morning and on healing. meanwhile, there's a push to arm military members at these recruiting and reserve centers. a tennessee congressman has introduced or will introduce a bill on monday that would repeal bans on military members carrying weapons on military facilities. meanwhile, governors in about half a dozen states have ordered guardsmen to be armed. texas, for example ordering all guardsmen at storefront locations to report to their nearest armory. the army has also agreed to review procedures and security. richard, right now -- or steve right now they've not set any tentative time lines for that yet. back to you. >> sarah dallof in chooting

intoa. thank you for that. donald trump is taking fire from just about everybody this morning, in the wake of new comments that some say are the death blow to his presidential candidacy. now, of course trump has sky rocketed to the top of the polls in the last month. the question has always been how long can it last. especially now that trump has criticized the vietnam war service of senator john mccain. here is the exchange from yesterday in full. let's listen. >> john mccain goes oh, boy, trump makes my life difficult. he had 15,000 crazies show up. crazies. he called them all crazy. i said they weren't crazy. they were great americans. these people -- if you were to have seen these people -- i know what a crazy is. aye know all about craziys. these weren't crazies. he insulted me and everybody in that room. i said somebody should run against john mccain who has been, in my opinion, not so hot. and i supported him. i supported him for president.

i raised $1 million for him. that's a lot of money. he lost. he let us down. he lost. i never liked him as much aafter that because i don't like losers, but, frank, frank, let me get to it. >> he's a war hero. >> is he not a war hero. he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people who weren't captured, okay? i hate to tell you. he's a war hero because he was captured, okay? you can have -- i believe perhaps he's a war hero but right now he said some very bad things about a lot of people. >> immediately after leaving the stage at the gop leadership summit in iowa where that took place yesterday, conservative christian event for republican candidates in iowa. immediately after making those comments on stage, trump talked to reporters and that press conference became contentious. >> you said you didn't -- you said john mccain was -- you -- >> i like people that don't get

captured. >> are you blaming john mccain for his capture? >> i'm saying that john mccain has not done a good job. >> why would you say that you like people who don't get captured? it's a simple question. >> i do. why? the people who don't get captured i'm not supposed to like? i like the people who don't get captured and i respect the people who do get captured. >> why did you say that in the context of john mccain? >> you have many people who didn't get captured. i respect them lately. you have people that got captured. i respect them greatly also. >> others in the 2016 field now are openly taking shots at donald trump, some calling for him to get out of the race even. anthony terell is in des moines. he was there yesterday as this all went down. set the stage for us a little bit. this was a conservative christian conference in iowa. what was the reaction when trump said this and afterwards, yesterday? >> you heard that reaction in the room.

there were 3,000 people there. there was an audible gasp. trump didn't back down. he battled with reporters for about 20 minutes, didn't back down. almost doubled down. i talked to some attendees afterwards, some trump supporters. although they didn't agree with what he said they liked his bluntness, his frankness. they said john mccain shouldn't be able to use that or his defenders as a shield, that he was a p.o.w. and in the military. however, i talked to dr. ben carson after the donald trump interview and dr. carson wouldn't directly address it. he said it depends on your definition of war here o i followed up and asked him, in your definition is john mccain a war hero? and dr. carson said john mccain has done some wonderful things. i talked to senator lindsey graham john mccain's best friend afterwards and said the voter also decide whether or not donald trump stays in the race and he has the overwhelming feeling that voters are going to tell him the same thing that donald trump is fond of saying. you're fired.

>> there's that line. anthony, quickly, do you have a sense talking to anybody around donald trump or around his campaign, did they recognize when he said this the gravity of this potentially, the seriousness of this? or do they think this is just another thing that will blow over and they'll skate through? >> they feel like it's something that would blow over. people who support donald trump, 15% to 18% support him because of that bluntness, that frankness. people around donald trump like that about him. they think this may blow over. you heard rick perry call for him to withdraw from the race. perry is the only one to go that far. everyone else said trump will make that decision on his own. the people who support donald trump don't believe this will end anything for donald trump. they think this will just put fire behind him. >> anthony terrell in iowa for us. appreciate it. we have with us msnbc political analyst joan walsh, michael steelee, former chairman of the

rnc and john stanton, washington bureau chief with buzz feed. let's get a few more reactions out there. this was -- the reaction was swift and intense yesterday. republican national committee came out to condemn trump, saying senator mccain is an american hero because he served his country and sacrificed more than most can imagine. period. as anthony terrell was saying lindsey graham came out to defend him. "the new york post," don voyage. they're saying donald trump is toast after his insult to john mccain. one notable exception to all of this, we should mention, ted cruz, who has been praising donald trump the last few weeks, thinking there's a political calculation there. he was asked about this. here is what he had to say. >> i will happily tell you what i think about john mccain.

i'll happily tell you my views on any issue, obamacare, immigration. i'm not going to play the media game of bashing another republican. >> that is ted cruz the exception. otherwise universal here from republican voices. that was a reporter trump was going back and forth with from "the weekly standard." bill crystal has been defending trump. not on this. is this the beginning of the end, john? what do you think? >> no. look, donald trump is not the guy that's going to quit a race like this. unless republicans find a way to make him into a martyr this is not what is going to do it. he may feel he's been stabbed in the become by brutus and extract some thing from the republican party based n that. this is not going to do that. it hurts him but he wasn't going to win the nomination to begin

with. i don't know that there's much of a reason for him -- >> but so right now he surged to the top of the polls, 18%, top of the pack latest i saw. if you have all of these voices conservative voters who republican voters listen to who are almost universally saying this is terrible, this is outrageous, does it bring those numbers back down to earth and almost humiliate him out of the race? >> what evidence do we have that republican voters are listening to this field? this man's surge is a symptom of the fact that it's not a strong field, that there isn't a strong leader in the republican party. people come out. they say terrible things about him. this is his brand. he's a toxic waste dump. that's what people like about him. he's shameless. shaming him isn't going to work. i want to point out i don't think scott walker condemned him. he did say something nice about john mccain. >> no, he did. >> he did? >> he said i denounce -- >> i take that back. so it is really everyone? >> ben carson was a little wishy

washy. so michael steele does he pay a political price for this? >> no. i don't think in the long term he does. not coming out of washington or the establishment of the rnc or any of the other candidates. i think the real test will be to see whether or not it does hit the numbers. if some of those folks who are part of that team who were hard charging donald trump and liked that brashness figure he went too far and back off a little bit. we'll see over the next week to ten days. i don't think it's going to be a big dip in the numbers. i think people in the party right now, in large measure, this notwithstanding his comments on mexico notwithstanding, the underlying gist of what donald trump has

been saying -- outside the establishment people are like that made me feel uncomfortable. there were scattered boos in the audience but not an overwhelming condemnation. that will be the real test if he's able to tip the scale in that direction, in which case he starts losing votes right and left. >> "the new york times," basically this is the beginning of the end for trump and he was saying don't necessarily think of it as this particular moment as what kills the trump candidacy but the nature of the coverage is going to change. the last month there's been this breathless coverage of trump said this. can you believe it? trump said this. can you believe it? now the coverage he says will be much more one republican leader one conservative leader after another saying this went too far. this went too far. that went too far. and the totality of that wears him down. >> they don't want to do that. i think on this show i said a few weeks ago, rnc has to become

the off-ramp for this. as a presidential candidate you do not want every other day having a reporter or network in their face asking about donald trump. that is not their message. that is not the conservation they want to have with the country. the party has to figure out how they become the rnc, the chairman becomes the -- >> the rnc, yesterday on this one, they did come out. >> i thought that was a very strong statement. >> you say they need to do more of that? >> not just more but a lot of it. they've got to create the deflection point. otherwise, you know guys like these folks over here it's a direct target to the candidates and the candidate does not want that. >> they're giving the candidates cover basically. >> exactly. >> though rick perry has done a good yobjob. >> yeah. >> one candidate that comes out and says things about trump and it does hurt trump to have him out there pretty squarely

punching him. >> trump base are fed up with the republican party, rnc and don't listen to the establishment. their condemning him is only going to make him popular. does it keep him from going up above 18%, it might. >> if you're cruz or somebody else like that coming from the right and trying to pick up those voters once trump leaves at some point you have to essentially get trump to lay hands on you, playing for the moment where someone has to come into his office and lays hands on him, you're my anointed one. you get my voters. >> how durable is that? we say 18%. right now if that's the ceiling trump has established, how loyal to trump are they? i see a scenario he gets out of this thing -- he would come up for some excuse for this obviously. those numbers start to drop and facing the prospect that donald trump ran for president --

>> is a loser. he doesn't like losers. >> hot off the presses this morning. if you don't follow donald trump twitter feed you're missing something. it's authentic. john mccain called thousands of people crazeies when they came to seek help on illegal immigration last week in phoenix. he owes apologies. that's donald trump. latest comment saying john mccain owes him an apology. we should also mention that john mccain will be appearing tomorrow morning, this is good timing, on "morning joe." tomorrow morning, 6:00 to 9:00 pm first on the record interview following trump's comments yesterday. it sounds like from the panel here there's a consensus. the new york post is saying don voyage. others are saying no the show goes on. >> i think it does. >> the show goes on. republicans did help create this, no offense, michael, by not standing up to him over

birtherism. he would again and again double down to birtherism to almost no rebuke. mitt romney continues to seek his endorsement. >> a common sentiment that existed within some in the party and that's what animated and motivated that part of the conversation. he had the space to do that. he played in that space as he's playing in this space. >> we'll have more with the panel on this later. future of the nuclear deal with an ambassador who knows ball negotiating with iran. still ahead this morning, breakfast with senator chuck schumer. stay with us. >> here is another little trick. i dilute my orange juice.

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right thing and not allow party or pressure or anything else. what's good for america first and foremost and what's good for israel which, of course i care a lot about. >> next in line to be the next democratic leader in the senate telling me friday how he plans to decide on what he says is one of the most difficult decisions he has faced in his political career, whether to vote in favor of president obama nuclear deal with iran or try to derail it. top officials will continue the hard sell of getting lawmakers to sell off on that deal. proisrael group apec has formed its own group to oppose it. nicholas burns was ambassador to nato and greece during republican and democratic administrations. he was the lead u.s. negotiator on iran's nuclear program. ambassador, thank you for joining us this morning. >> good morning. >> you worked on this issue a

decade ago, looking at this deal now. we've ended up at this point. when you look at this deal is this something that this country should be comfortable with? >> i think it is. i think it's a sensible deal for the united states. look at its virtue steve, it will freeze the iranian nuclear program for 10 to 15 years, cut off pollute ownium, uranium enrichment. by virtue of the obama administration public statements they may be two to three months away from a nuclear weapon. with this deal they'll be at least a year away from the nuclear weapon and won't have enough material or heavy grade uranium to produce a nuclear weapon. i think you've got to look at the advantages of the deal. you've got to look at the imperfection imperfections, too. there were a lot of trade-offs for president obama and secretary kerry. whether or not we would be able

to reimpose sanctions that. will come down to how tough minded not only president obama is but his successor will be in trying to take reign over iranian violations. >> across the political spectrum in israel but benjamin netanyahu, the most critical. he had an interview with nbc's lester holt. i think they have two paths to the bomb under this deal. one if they keep the deal or if they cheat on the deal. it's heads i win, tails you lose. >> they're not justified in my mind but understandable is the difference. given the fact that israel has to -- don't agree with the concerns by prime minister

netanyahu. he's not giving us an alternative to the current strategy. a lot of crit beings in the united states aren't doing the same. they're saying president obama should have walked away from the negotiatings and continued to sanction iran. the whole sanctions regime is not really just based on american sanctions but the fact that the eu japanese indians and south koreans stop buying ir iranian gas. global coalition against iran would have withered. sanctions regime would have been seriously diminished and all the restrictions on the iranian program from the past year and a half would have gone completely away. this tough-minded option that critics say would have been better would have been dramatically worse for the united states. until critics leak the prime minister of israel present a

coherent credible alternative, i think his logic overtime will win out. >> we will see that congressional debate just about to begin. it will take a two-thirds majority supermajority of congress. chuck schumer, key vote in that. we'll talk to him in a little bit. for now, ambassador nicholas burns, thank you for taking the time to speak with us. >> thank you, steve. milestone day in cuba. we'll go live to havana, next. rywhere, the challenges of keeping everyone working together can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. at&t has the tools and the network you need to make working as one easier than ever. virtually anywhere. leaving you free to focus on what matters most. the signs are everywhere. the lincoln summer invitation is on. get exceptional offers on the mkz sedan...

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of blk lives matter. martin o'malley and vermont senator bernie sanders. >> what is your agenda going to be to make sure that plaque lives do matter and that as a leader of this nation will you advance a racial justice agenda that will dismantle -- not reform okay? not make progress but will begin to dismantle racism in the united states? >> o'malley and sanders both tried to respond. protesters didn't want to hear what they were saying they didn't get any help from net roots organizers as protesters took over the stage, tweeting later to folks who asked me why i didn't stop the protesters we cannot silence people of color and women of color. offering an apology to o'malley by flashing it on the teleprompter, later releasing a statement saying quote, although we wish the candidates had more time to respond to the issues what happened today is reflective of an urgent moment

america is facing today. if there was a winner among the democratic candidates, it was hillary clinton. she had been boo'd at a past net roots event in 2007. net roots will have a much tougher time getting presidential candidates and other national leaders to accept their invitations in the future after yesterday's incident. immigration round table with immigration dreamers later yesterday. >> your mood today when you said white lives matter -- >> first i said black lives matter and then i said white lives matter. all lives matter. i meant no insensitivity to that. i apologize if i miscommunicated. what i intended to say is that we're all in this together that black lives do matter and we have a double standard of justice in this country. >> msnbc's jane timm was at net roots and joins us now from phoenix.

i'm tempted to say you covered the last net roots convention. it's hard to see how a presidential candidate's staff would ever put their candidate in that situation after yesterday. >> yeah. you imagine the hillary staff erers who made the decision not to come are popping the champagne saying we look great today because our candidate wasn't boo d off stage. it's an outrageous setup for a candidate. you kept hearing these candidates say i was told i could say my stump speech and chat about things i wanted to talk about and these protesters were saying absolutely not. we are going to go through with our agenda and what we want to talk about. highly organized, very effective in terms of taking over the conversation. it was surprising how well it came off and how strong it was. republican event i often cover these conferences, people would have been arrested in less than half a minute. interesting place to try to make a safe space for these organizers but you're right, i

don't see anyone coming next year to chat with the net roots crowd. >> we'll talk to the panel about this. before i actually -- we have sound as well. this is martin o'malley and bernie sanders. not getting help from the organizers. organizers are saying, go ahead, protesters. >> black lives matter. white lives matter. all lives matter. >> hold on one second. hold on. hold on. >> it's okay with me. listen black lives, of course matter. i spent 50 years of my life fighting for civil rights but if you don't want me to be here that's okay. >> let's talk about this with the panel. i'm still trying -- as i say, to me the headline -- hillary clinton, people were asking is she making a mistake by not going to this thing? this is the base of her party. maybe she should be at this thing.

she looks really smart right now. >> she looks great. net roots, i forgot it was happening, that it was still a thing until this happened so maybe it does turn out to be a bit of a winner. >> gets them attention. >> it has to decide what it is. i respect the organizers acknowledging the fierce anger that exists people who feel that looking at things through the lens of economic -- progressive economics doesn't get to the structural racial issues. this is a big deal. poor martin o'malley. he says what should be self evident, black lives matter white lives matter all lives matter but in this context, that's an erasure of black lives matter. people want it to be said that there's a specific problem around the police eradication of black people and that they want attention to that fact. i think it was terrible staff for senator sanders who does deserve credit for 50 years of

fighting for racial justice but can't seem to let it in that people want to hear specific talk about mass incarceration. they were chanting -- >> i'm not going to put that on the candidates. >> they were chanting say her name about sandra bland. there were specific things they could have listened to and said and done that would have diffused this whole thing. >> but then they're accused of pandering. if they start chanting what the audience wants, that's not real. organizers of this sold a bill of goods to the candidates to show up. as they said afterwards we were told that we could do x, y and z. >> right. >> and they had no control over their people. it doesn't matter what stripe you are politically. that is not a group you're going to go in front of ever. because you're not going to have the conversation that you want to have as a candidate. if you have the chance to get up and speak and sit down and do the one on one with the q & a, that's when all that other stuff starts to come out.

if you start boo'ing the moment that they get on the stage because you don't like what they're saying -- >> they don't invite them. >> that is a level of intolerance of people that are supposed to be tolerant that i find funny. >> what stunned me is that there seemed to be no effort as this is playing out to restore order here. >> right. >> this is a convention. this is a conference. there are rules here. if one group of protesters -- if you're going to say we can't silence this group of protesters. can you silence any group of protesters? >> right. >> this event or any event in the future are you out of line saying no there's a time and a place for this. we have rules here. candidates get to come in and say what they want. you get to talk to the candidates after. it becomes chaos and pointless if you say we have no standing to drown out any protesters. >> it was odd having them stand up on the stage next to the candidates who look like they've been -- >> completely sand bagged. >> sand bagged. >> absolutely. >> this is what you get.

right? and also odd that they kept up the protests even after they clearly changed the entire conversation, after it became very clear they were no longer going to do their stump speech. which is not necessarily a bad thing. >> they were trying to engage. >> get them off message. it became clear it wast wasn't about having them respond. it was very much talking about what they wanted to talk about. they didn't really care what either of these two guys had to say. >> it was protest for the sake of protest. >> i really don't think that it's necessarily pandering. i think senator sanders very much believes that police should not be killing black people innocent black people. i'm sure he believes that and could have learned name of sandra bland. >> he just didn't put it -- because he didn't use it in that context or that moment doesn't mean he doesn't know the name. to set a bar of expectation for him, when he's can coming to

deliver a -- i'll give you this how he's briefed and prepared about the group he's going to speak to is something different. maybe that comes out there. all that have is erased the moment you turn to chaos. it doesn't matter. >> i was sit tlg watching it yesterday. i was thinking back to 1972 democratic convention in 1972 at a time when george mcgovern had to give his acceptance speech at 10:30 in the morning because the party had a thing about this was going to be an open vice presidential nomination and gave over to the floor of the convention control of that convention and knocked the presidential candidate to 2:30 in the morning. 40 years later we've become so much more politically sophisticated but in the chaos -- >> net roots is not the democratic convention and organizers will have to think about this and pay attention to it. they should study 68 and '72. there is a current of activism in the party that's a good thing but that can spill over into

anger, frustration and chaos. >> these are their allies. >> their friends. >> i found it musing that everyone soft pedals the noise on left side of the field and how that's healthy and energetic for the party but on the right somehow it's crazy and organized. activists are activists, no matter what their stripe is conservative or progressive. at the end of the day, both parties will have to account for that in next year's conventions and leading up to those conventions. >> white progressives athey're not paying attention to including senator sanders. this should not have been a total surprise. >> straight ahead, two days away from entering the sweet 16. i'll explain what that means next. later we sit down for prek fast and a whole lot more with senator chuck schumer. >> you just had some grits.

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most of those names you never heard of or probably will never hear of. kasich will be competing against 15 other candidates for 10 spot at the first debate in his home state three weeks from now. can he get a bounce in the polls from his big announcement? joining me now, mark murray. i guess this counts as a late entry. wesley clark, fred thompson, rick perry, if there's a common thread there, late starters it never seems to work out. >> i think it's a concern for him getting the nomination. if that wesley clark, fred thompson model holds correctly, he should get a bit of a bounce. that's what his team is hoping

for, having that first debate on august 6th in cleveland ohio for that first republican debate. that's why they the decided to announce now instead of a week ago or even a week earlier. john kasich has strengths going into the process. prime battleground state of ohio. he does have some draw backs. all the models show that he would not get that top ten, if it were -- the first a lot of republicans see that as a fireable offense. the entire republican party, how is someone who has a 60%

approval rating in his own state, popular governor now in his second term somehow unacceptable to big swaths of the conservative base. >> let me ask you about that michael steele. the idea on paper of the popular governor of ohio big swing state ohio has congressional experience seen on paper to be a strong candidate. but is there too much baggage here with kasich? >> i don't think so. kiss comments about caring for the people he was charged to care for. everyone in the party except real hardheads can look at that and say you shouldn't have governed that way. if he had governed differently, maybe the polls would be different or the outcomes would have been different. who knows.

he made the choice he needs to make at that time. a lot of people in the party will respect that. he will be an interesting character in this sweet 16 battle. executive congressional, grass roots experience. particularly something like this how he articulates that message, will be important. whether he gets the bounce will be interesting. i can see him sitting in the governor's mansion, watching that debate. this thing is over before it begins for kasich. humiliating blow. he can't even make the stage. do people dismiss him then? is there a risk of that? >> huge risk steve. and a risk for the entire republican party. 10 people on that stage, one doesn't include the hometown governor of one of the most

important presidential battleground states we'll see in the general election. and tough decisions. does carly fiorina, the only female, get left off? there are no good outcomes really for the rnc and republican party because there will be tough choices here. >> thanks for taking a few moments this morning. appreciate that. up next up against the clock game show. remember josh winning this a few months ago? he received a very special honor last night because of that. we'll explain that and show you some video you are not going to want to miss, straight ahead. ves like you do? try always discreet underwear and move, groove, wiggle giggle, swerve, curve. lift, shift, ride, glide hit your stride. only always discreet underwear has soft dual leak guard

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that could have been you. >> i'm crushed. >> moved almost to tears. >> you always remember the standard for these first pitches, by the way, set by george w. bush remember? world series game after 9/11 and threw a strike. >> one of the hardest things you can do. intimidating as all get out to stand on that mound. if it's a regulation distance it is really scary. >> in the mound on the ballpark. >> a shot put move too. very impressed with his dynamics. >> we had a great time out there last night. cyclones, by the way, fell short against the vermont lake monsters. still ahead, grits, oj and tough political talk on the menu breakfast. senator chuck schumer is next. really interesting interview. ♪

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>> thank you very much. are you from brooklyn? >> thanks for staying with us from brooklyn new york. the key vote right now on whether or not president obama's iran nuclear deal will get derailed by congress we are sitting down for breakfast this morning with senator chuck schumer. let's get started. the obama administration ramping up its hard sell on the iran nuclear deal. i got a chance to sit down with schumer friday for a wide ranging conversation at a neighborhood institution, brooklyn landmark not far from his home. we discussed the iran deal and a whole lot more. starting with the setting around us.

>> we are here in a -- this is an iconic new york location. we're at juniors. >> juniors. >> in brooklyn. >> you just had some grits. >> brooklyn has become so universal that we even have grits. a southern dish. rural southern dish. >> do you like them? >> i love grits. i love anything with corn. i liked grits when i first tasted them. that was in washington which was even then a more southern city than it is now in 1981. why do i like them? it's corn. these grits stack up just fine to the grits in the south. >> tell that to some of your southern -- >> guess what i have on my grits which the southerners would turn their nose up. sweet n low. brooklyn product. 1200 jobs in brooklyn direct and indirect. >> sweet n low. i came down to new york from massachusetts originally one of my favorite things about this

area, such an institution, the diner. >> what makes a great diner? >> first, the menu has to be seven or eight pages. they have to have everything. how they have so many dishes. >> stuff that hasn't been sold in 15 years probably. >> i hope not. i hope the stuff is fresher, but each diner has its own specialties. certain things good hamburger and french fries. a good dineer has to have that. one of the specialties of diners, many greek diners have little cookies at the end that they serve you. you can tell the quality of that and the quality of the diner but alsoprietoroprietors, usually a greek family husband, wife son, daughter. and when michael dukakis ran in brooklyn he was greek-american diners were the backbone of his campaign. they had the sign. every diner had a duk a. can. is leaflet, whether they were

democratic or republican. i dilute my orange juice, nothing to do with brooklyn. it's 200 calories and it's acidic. do this nine-tenths water, one-tenth orange juice. after a week or two, it tastes the same and it is one-tenth the calories. >> watered down orange juice and sweet n low in the grits. >> god bless america. god bless brooklyn. >> senator schumer's breakfast. you are all over the news this week because of the nuclear deal with iran. everybody is looking at this. it's a now going to congress. >> yep. >> congress is getting the say on that. the linchpin on this is chuck schumer. which way is he going to go? you put out a statement saying you're going to review this very carefully and talk to everybody. >> that's what i'm doing. >> have you read the deal? >> not yet. i've been so busy in washington this week. we had the education bill on the floor, attempt to dramatically

cut funding, from the northeast states, took a lot of time. we beat it back. new york is held harmless we don't lose funds. we had the highway bill. finding a way to fund it in a bipartisan way, democrat/republican support, has to pass the house and senate. i've been so busy that i resolved this weekend i'm going to get in my little chair that i've had in my house for 32 years here in brooklyn and read it thoroughly and quietly. i'll talk to people and talk to the administration. i'm sure i'll have a whole lot of questions and concerns on both sides of the issue. and the other thing i'm going to do -- this is what i've learned through the years, my 41 years as an elective official. on important things just do the right thing. no one has a monopoly on what the right thing is but do what you think the right thing is. i'll spend a lot of time thinking about it, learning about it and do the right thing. i'm not going to let party, pressure or anything else --

what's good for america first and foremost and what's good for israel which, of course i care a lot about. >> the reason all is are on you, politically, you're pulled in two very powerful directions here. on one hand from this standpoint, this president, your party's president, a guy you have been very close to barack obama, this is like the signature thing he is pushing for. he's seeing legacy here. could you see a scenario where you go against him? >> i'm not going to comment until i read the document. that's what's going to guide me. if the president is wrong ierk vote against him. i just voted against tpa. i thought it hurt middle class incomes. he talked to me regularly. i told him unless it changes, even if it helps corporate profits i'm not going to be for it if it decreases middle class incomes and i think it does. there have been time ice have broken with the president when i think i have a different point of view and the right thing is not what he's doing. i'm going to wait to read the

document. i'm not going to comment on whether i will or i won't, maybe yes, maybe no. none of that is helpful. >> one more angle because i'm curious about this as well. you mentioned, too, you are a staunch defender of israel advocate for israel. not only is benjamin netanyahu, as the israeli prime minister but the opposition leader is against this. the democrat and republican in israel are against this. can you be pro-israel and still -- >> there are kinds of many different people, many different places have many different opinions. i have to read it listen to them but make up my own mind. >> final question, you've been in office 40 years now basically. when you look at the stakes in this issue, the sort of consequences of the decision you have to make on this, where does this one rank? >> it's high up. tough decision. high up. i've had them before. it goes with the territory. that's why you're paid the big bucks, as they say.

and the importance of it is very very real to me. i'm going to read it go over it with a fine-tooth comb talk to people on all sides. of course, the administration. and then because it's such an important decision, i'm going to weigh it really carefully. that's all i can say. >> take a step back if you could, and say when history looks back at this administration, what are they going to say? this period in american history? >> changing period in american history and i think the president will come off very very well. first, maybe foremost he prevented a great depression. we had the greatest financial meltdown we've had since the depression. even before he became president. i was one of the people on the little group trying to fix things in the midst of the collapse. as a candidate, john mccain's my dear friend but he came and made political hay on this. the president, the then senator from illinois would call me and say you just do the right thing. you figure out what the right thing is and do it regardless of

the political consequences. i came to respect him for that. of course, then we had the stimulus. right wing attacked a few bad things in the stimulus. overall, every economist as we move further along in history more and more say we would have had a great depression without the stimulus. then we went into one of the great changes in politics health care. it's working. people are getting better coverage and they said costs would go through the roof. it's cut the costs of health care. instead of it go inging up 10% a year, wfs a huge contributor of the federal deficit it's gone up to 3% a year. that's a huge huge change. >> we talk about health care and obamacare. it's been so locked in place. do you think we'll ever get to a point where people look at obamacare and in the vast majority say it's a good thing? >> absolutely. i wasn't around with social security. initial reaction was negative.

i'll tell you another one. prediction drug bill which expanded prescription drugs as part of medicare for senior citizens i was here then. whole lot of people said never work. a year after it was negative. now a huge positive. i think obamacare will be a huge positive. >> there's the start of our conversation. it will continue after this. up next i talk to senator schumer about the men and women who are hoping to replace president obama. ♪ ♪ ♪ it took serena williams years to master the two handed backhand. but only one shot to master the chase mobile app. technology designed for you. so you can easily master the way you bank.

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after eight years on capitol hill hillary clinton was technically the junior senator from new york. daniel patrick moynahan helped the former first lady to her lawmaker career helped win his seat that year.

once she got there after the 2000 election chuck schumer was the senior senator from new york. schumer then forged a close partnership during the years they served. in 2013 schumer became one of the first people to endorse hillary clinton's current run for the white house. i asked him to weigh in on the 2016 field. he had some interesting thoughts. >> when you look at the 2016 race hillary clinton, obviously you've endorsed here. >> i have. >> democratic front-runner. this republican race taking shape, 18 19 candidate. >> the more the merrier. >> from a standpoint of someone supporting hillary clinton and wants her to win, do you look at that field and are you like i really hope they nominate this candidate? this is the most beatable candidate. >> sometimes your instincts tell you how you feel. i intend to be an instinctive politician in a lot of ways. when i read that some new yorker was raising $30 million for ted

cruz i said great. >> ted cruz is the dream candidate. >> i doubt he would carry texas. >> what about the flip side? here is what i hear from a lot of democrats when i ask this question, who is the republican candidate you would least like hillary clinton to face up to? they say they're most scared of marco rub beio. what do you think of that? >> number one fact is that middle class incomes are declining. this is an issue i've cared about for a long time. the only book oif written about in 2007, we had to do something about this. and make sure i have a good paying job. once i have a good paying job, my standard of living is going up. we're here in brooklyn. i see outside my window that beautiful lady with the torch. the torch symbolizes to most americans, most people in the world the american dream. if you ask the average american what he the american dream? not in fancy language but that

if i work hard i'll be doing better ten years from now than i am today and my kids will be doing better than me. when that torch flickers and that dream is no longer in the american grasp, we've got trouble. for 10 12 years, median incomes have declined. that's the number one issue. who can best address it? i think people will want someone who is compassionate. hillary is. who has experience. who knows how to get things done. she's got that. and who's strong. she's got that. they look at marco rubio's platform or any republican candidates, jeb bush they're going to see give the corporations more power. let them go free. the average american isn't close to believing that. isn't close. i've seen surveys the average tea party voter doesn't believe that. the right wing has put in their heads that government is your problem. they believe that, the tea party people, even though it's false.

but they don't want to let big corporations govern america. so, i think marco rubio is a fine man. worked with him on the gang of eight. although i was very disappointed that the minute we had our immigration bill and rush limbaugh attacked him, he ran from it. what are americans going to say if a right wing radio person attacks you, you walk away from something that you worked so hard on? what are they going to say about that? overall overall, i think it will be a big democratic year and -- thank you very much. are you from brooklyn? >> yeah. >> where do you live? >> i don't live in brooklyn. i live in ellmontt. >> very nice. we didn't have enough grass in brooklyn for soccer. we would go to dutch broadway and play. in any case the republican ideas are going to fail.

i think it will be a democratic sweep. they're so bound by this hard right group spending all this money that's gotten rank and file voters to believe government is the enemy they're out of touch this time. >> do you know who is doing well -- >> a new yorker. >> bernie sanders who not only went to your high school -- >> he graduated from madison high school a few years before i went. but he essay brooklynite through and through. he's unvarnished. he is who he is. that's a characteristic of people from brooklyn, new york, to a great extent. i tell candidates first be yourself. i'm from brooklyn. sometimes it helps me. sometimes it hurts me f i tried not to be from brooklyn i would be worse than whatever i am. and bernie is like that. i'm sure he believe that is. >> the idea of authenticity. i look at what bernie sanders

and martin o'malley is saying. bernecy getting real traction. and o'malley isn't. >> he has been tilling in the vineyards and rung out of -- we all believe in the senate even those of us who are hillary supporters, he's running out of true belief. that he wants to pull the electorate in his direction. o'malley is running on the left side. that's his privilege and right but he used to be a third way guy. reminds me of john edwards, the big moderate in the senate. then when he ran for president, he was running to the left of hillary and obama. it didn't quite wash or work. >> what about bernie sanders, your colleague -- >> he's great. >> he caucuses with you, but he's an independent. >> we respect him. he does great things.

jim webb and bernie sanders -- jim webb is no longer there. jim webb with with the webb act that could allow veterans to go to college and we would help pay for college for veterans and bernie has done more for veterans than anybody else. he gets things done. >> the culture of the senate and the relationships that form there, is there a republican that you're close to that people would say i don't believe they get along? >> john mccain. the immigration bill he stuck by it through thick and thin. he and i are good friends. and jeff sessions a lot of these relationships, ironically start in the senate gym. most republicans exercise early, most democrats exercise late. i exercise early. >> is there a reason for that? >> some pe guy, some psychologist or something you would have to ask. but so i get there early.

who's in the gym? lamar alexander, one of my best friends, thune, jeff sessions. i recruited marco rubio to be part of our group of eight, being in the gym. dick durbin is in the gym even earlier than me and helped to recruit him, too. >> maybe a year and a half from now you are the top democrat in the senate. you could be the majority leader of the senate. >> god willing. >> a lot of people look at the last eight years. people forget this barack obama was first running for president a lot of republicans said really nice things about him. he beat hillary clinton, became the face of the party suddenly no compromise, nothing like that. do you think something similar might happen? >> mitch mcconnell got up in the first few months, this was in 2009 and said our number one goal was to defeat barack obama for re-election. which, of course didn't come true.

it set a bad tone for the republicans. there was a yearning for both democrats and republicans to work together and get things done. we're seeing more of it this year. here is my theory. if the tea party loses its third election in a row for president, they'll lose their grip. if you had to look at the senate or the house, you would divide republicans in three groups moderates, susan collins is left. but the majority are not hard right tea party people. they are main conservatives. because the republican party is so far to the right they're afraid of losing a primary. after three elections that they lose and god willing we take back the senate mainstream conservatives, three of whom beat tea party people they're going to say, we can't follow these guys over the cliff anymore and they're going to work with us and get things done. it will be great. i think with hillary as president, a democratic majority

in the senate and even the house, which would be harder to get the majority. but a gain in the house, we could have a great two years because we'll work with the republicans and we have to. some people say never compromise. no, that's not what the founding fathers wanted a legislature to be. you keep your principles. but there are lots of ways you can meet people part of the way. >> a lot of profiles get written about you. almost cliches at this point to you. >> yeah. >> what is the biggest misconception in the media about who chuck schumer is? >> they criticize me. i like being on the media. i can't done that. it's my way of reaching people. >> the sunday press conference is a schumer tradition. what's the origin of that? >> when i was an assemblyman, we came up with it because we wanted to reach people. it's not usually about a fight in the senate but what affects

average people's lives. one lady met my daughter and said are you related to the senator? she said yes. this middle-class lady from one of the more conservative neighborhoods on long island and she said you know all those other politicians talk blather but he's on tv sunday night talking about something that matters to me. she was proud about it. a little angry and a little proud. most of the public, they don't mind it. they like it. it's the media types who like to say, he loves tv. that should be my biggest problem. >> i've seen this written about you a few times now. you are probably the top matchmaker in the united states senate. it bothers you when members of your staff and you see that they're single and you start badgering them. what's that all about? >> i love my staff. they're almost like a second family to me. and they work so hard. they're so dedicated.

i wouldn't be here without my staff. my staff, they're great. a nice relationship. i'm not sure. sometimes i'll say to the other, he's nice. she's nice. what about it? i told one of my staff who was a very handsome guy, i said this gal is quality, you know. don't go -- he was going out with people who were not up to his level, but they're beautiful. i said, go for what's inside. >> did it work out? >> yeah, they're married! >> if you had to live -- you have to give me an answer on this one. you can't live in new york. have you to live somewhere else. where is it?

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we've been doing this week to week for a while now. rick santorum has always been on the wrong side of the average. for the first time rick santorum into tenth place very tentatively would have -- who did he knock out? rick perry, former texas governor. by our numbers right now, rick perry would be 11th. he would be the first one not to have a ticket not to be on the

debate stage. we talked about this very notable here john kasich former governor of ohio due to announce his candidacy this week. this debate will be held in his home state. can he get that number up? can he get in there? we do this ncaa tournament style here. bracket comes out every march. whose bubble burst, who gets in? cut line, santorum last one in 2.2%. rick perry out just .2 of a point. that's the difference between rick perry not getting into this debate not getting the exposure and rick santorum getting in and having all of that. if john kasich can bump up a little bit, will he knock santorum or perry out? chris christie has been counting on this debate to turn his campaign around and is in grave danger at 2.6. you can see the down arrow, heading in the wrong direction at the wrong time. keep a close eye on these

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. donald trump still not apologizing for those controversial comments about john mccain yesterday, taking to twitter this morning, in fact to continue his tirade against mccain, trump tweeting john mccain called thousands of people crazies when they came to seek help on immigration in phoenix. he owes apology. clearly not backing off those remarks yesterday. to refresh your memory, let's listen to what he had to say. >> somebody should run against john mccain who has been you know, in my opinion, not so hot. and i supported him. i supported him for president. i raised $1 million for him. that's a lot of money.

he let us down. he lost. i've never liked him as much after that because i don't like losers. but -- frank, let me get to it. >> he's a war hero. >> he's not a war hero. >> he's a war hero. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured, okay? i hate to tell you. >> republican party leaders and others in the 2016 field now openly taking shots at trump after that. what will this latest episode mean for his presidential campaign going forward? the panel is back with me. joan walsh, former chairman of the rnc, michael steele and john stan stanton with buzz feed. in addition to that tweet we just showed you, we have a new statement out this morning from donald trump. he keeps addressing this thing. i have always made sure our veterans are treated with the respect they deserve. two weeks ago i pointed out the problem of illegal immigrants crossing our border and causing tremendous amounts of crime. now i have been able to focus the energies of our country on the horrible treatment that our

veterans are receiving. we must solve their difficulties and solve them now. politicians like john mccain have totally failed. i will continue to fight to secure our border and take care of our veterans. i will never apologize or back down because these steps are vital to all capital letters here make america great again. here is what i'm noticing about donald trump. he shoots his mouth off. he knows what's going to come out and then he works sort of backwards to justify it. i think the whole immigration thing that happened over the last month was donald trump spouting off. and then he stumbled into this issue and said wow, there's this huge base of people with me on this. now i'm the leader of this movement. he has a personal grudge against john mccain. he let that show yesterday said something really impolitic about john mccain and in the middle of a controversy and now he's turning it into this is all my great effort to shine the issue on veteran. >> and what john mccain has not done for veterans completely ridiculous. he refused to apologize and said

no, no he will never apologize to john mccain. >> we all know john mccain's record of military service. we also know donald trump, by the way, is old enough to have served in vietnam in the vietnam generation and he didn't go. he said because of his ankle or his foot. which foot was it? he said i don't remember. >> that's how tough it was nochlt it's ridiculous. he stayed here. john mccain went. now he's calling into question his heroism. he's not going to stop. he continues to get attention. he doesn't back down. i don't see what makes him stop. >> that's going to be one of the challenges that everybody is going to have right now. as this thing folds into the next level of conversation leading into the debate. this could be a real contentious moments on that stage which is something that the republican party does not want. they skaulcaled this thing down. you're in and out.

then donald trump was like wait a minute. i have a point of order. it's also a point of disorder for everybody else on the stage. now layering this attack on john mccain and his disservice to the veterans. the question i heard already in the last 24 hours is how does a president, trump stand before a group of pows and speak to them a group of veterans and speak to them? none of that really matters at this stage. people start to go off down these other rabbit holes. what's going to be happening in the next two weeks and what is the message they want to convey to the country as they begin a very difficult and contentious -- >> suggestions in the wake of these new comments by donald trump that a number of republicans take this as an opportunity to say i'm not going to that debate if donald trump is included. do you think this could get any traction? >> interesting. >> that would be a good idea for

some of these guys, like kasich. i'm not going to be involved in that. i do policy. i don't do that. right? and that would be actually a true statement on his behalf. and then he could keep him from looking like he's not doing that well. even if they do that frankly, trump is eating up all the oxygen right now. >> right. >> anybody that doesn't have the money, ability and infrastructure to withstand that -- however long that storm goes on jeb bush will be able to do it. marco rubio probably able to do it. a handful of others but most of these guys don't have the money and resources to wait. >> they need the time. we don't know anything that went on at that candidates' forum. all we know is what trump said about john mccain. if people said smart things dumb things we don't know much about it. >> it's not being covered. that gets us back to the point. that's the problem for the party, the narrative, whether it's on immigration, outreach to african-americans or working with education, veterans whatever.

all of that is beingsubpoena dlssubpoena -- supplanted. that's going to be the focus of the people asking the questions, fox or anybody else. >> if he's on that stage and they're up there with him, whatever he says -- we've gotten little windows into how this works. if he says something controversial or somebody brings up one of his controversial statements, will he keep moving on to something else and throw it -- he's looking constantly to throw it back in your face. never apologize. never back off. never qualify. look for something new to throw in your face. >> and you're the loser. >> he doesn't play by the normal rules of political combat. and these candidates are not used to. >> having witnessed it firsthand in maryland a few weeks ago when he came to speak at the state's red, white and blue dinner the fact of the matter is the room

was packed. the energy was high. he steps on the stage and he just gives sort of stream conscious conversation and folks are eating it up. and as long as that energy is there for him, it fuels this fight. because he is the guy, for good or bad, who is pushing back against the standard that the gop elites often put out there. >> if you're on the stage with him and you don't fight with him, that could be just as problematic. so he agrees. you don't want that. >> or he's in your face saying look, i can push you around. you won't stand up to me? you'll stand up to the chinese but i'm in your face? at a certain point, it comes a test of the strength of these other candidates, can they muster a fight to go back at him? you have to land some kind of blow there because he's going to keep coming back at you. 2 1/2 weeks away. we'll see what happens. programming note tomorrow

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all right, there's a lot going on this morning. let's get caught up with the other headlines making news with this morning's panel. the wall street journal said obama took a central park stroll on new york trip. there he is in central park with sasha and malia. he attended a fundraiser, had dinner saturday night. apparently there was a late night tour of the new whitney museum as well. you can see him walk through central park as well. this is sort of a preview, i think, of the post presidency. he spoke with people about missing the idea of sitting outside at a cafe and people

watch, take advantage of these opportunities, and he looks forward to being able to be outside. >> i see them living here. i guess chicago really did get the presidential library. i see him making himself at home here. >> they get the e-mail server. >> i walk my dog in central park. >> you'll see him in central park. >> i'm looking forward to it. >> i do i think about it sometimes. it takes a certain personality type, i think, to be a politician. bill clinton, i never thought he was particularly bothered by the idea of the white house bubble and all that and everywhere you go you're swarmed. obama seems a little more in introverted and that might

bother him a bit. >> walking in central park especially having that father-daughter moment with a thousand people watching and being a part of it still, it's not within the confines of washington. and i think a little of it is sort of shocking for new york to be a part of it in that way. it will be nice for him, i guess, to get out every once in a while. >> the former president living in new york city will just blend right in. this is from usa today. chocolate ice cream is tops on social media. by the way, today is national ice cream day. so a study by an analytics company found out the top flavors and brands. chocolate is the top flavor ben & jerry's is the most loved

brand. what's your fair? >> caramel fudge swirl. >> what's your favorite? >> i like chocolate chunk. >> this is from "time." a google self-driving car was rear-ended once again. the accident happened on friday july 1st. according to google the car was coming up to a red light, and as it slowed to avoid traffic, it was rear-ended. the self-driving car has been in 12 accidents since 2009. >> that should tell you what you need to know right there. >> i don't trust these things. i would never get in one of those. not that the people i drive around with is any safer. thanks to today's panel, michael walsh, jo steel. you're not going to want to miss senator john mccain tomorrow morning on "morning joe." the first interview since his war service was called into

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this morning, my question. who is atticus finch? plus the struggle continues in california. first the question that must be answered what happened to sand sandra bland? good morning, i'm melissa harris perry, and this morning we bring you a story that has more questions than answers, the story of sandra bland. sandra bland was a 28-year-old illinois native, and a few years back she was a student at prairie view a&m university a school about 450 miles west of houston. she performed school on