what i was trying to refer to and i think i did. >> does donald trump owe you an apology? >> i don't think so. he may owe an apology to the families and of those who have sacrificed in conflict and those who have undergone the prison experience in serving their country. >> good afternoon. i'm toure. it's the trump card of republican in-fighting. donald trump versus well just about everyone else in the party. it started with the initial comments about mexican immigrants that left decorated vietnam p.o.w. senator john mccain to call trump supporters crazies. his word, not mine. this weekend, trump responded to senator mccain with this. >> i supported him. he lost. he let us down. but, you know he lost. so i never liked him as much after that. i don't like losers. but frank, frank, let me get to

it. he's not a war hero. >> he is a war hero. >> he is because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured. okay? he is a war hero because he was captured. okay? you can have -- i believe -- perhaps he's a war hero. but right now he said some very bad things about a lot of people. >> bergdahl was a prisoner. i don't consider him a hero. if somebody's a prisoner i consider him a war hero. we have a lot of heroes that weren't war heroes too. >> wow. that war hero comment sparked a firestorm of condemnation. many defending mccain and adding that trump is not qualified to be president. some wonder if this is the beginning of the end for trump's presidential chances and others point to another comment trump made over the weekend that could be more detrimental to the political future. >> i'm protestant. i'm presbyterian.

i go to church and i love god and i love my church. >> have you ever asked god for forgiveness? >> i'm not sure i have. i just go and try to do a better job from there. i don't think so. i think -- if i -- if i do something wrong, i think i just try and make it right. i don't bring god into that picture. i don't. >> okay. you start with nbc news editor mark murray and lauren fox from the national journal. i think we should mark the beginning of the end of the trump candidacy when it began but if you take it out of the equation, is this the beginning of the end? >> i'm not so sure. we looked at the totality of the 2016 presidential election and it's xhedian's roast of how someone running for president. before the comments of john mccain's war service he noted on twitter john mccain finished

last in the class of annapolis and rick perry needed an iq test to qualify for the debates. this is one zinger after another and seeing on saturday with the comments of john mccain war service, and his war record was one of those kind of jokes that really falls flat and in the context of a presidential run when there are other republican candidates jockeying to be on the same debate stage this allows them to fire off and tee off at donald trump and what we saw over the weekend is republicans condemning donald trump in a way in which we never saw them condemn trump's remarks on mexican immigrants and rapist comments that he was making. so i do think that's a tippling point for that. as far as the fortunes and the poll numbers, i think we have to continue to wait and see. >> lauren if you could, i'd like you to take try to take us inside the mind of a trump voter because i look at this crazy to

support donald trump after what he said about john mccain and crazy to support him before what he said of john mccain and i'm trying to imagine the sorts of people that said this seems like a guy who should be president. are any of them going to be that offended by this? if the persona is being tacky, i don't know how you can commit a gaffe. >> well, i think what we're seeing is that donald trump is trying to appeal to the most conservative sect of the republican party and saw from the immigration comments. going after john mccain we have to remember in most of america, john mccain is seen as an establishment republican. he's often seen as a war hero at the same time by most of america but going after john mccain he is going after him not necessarily just on his record in the military but immigration. he was part of that gang of eight that came up with the bipartisan compromise for immigration reform and i think that's sort of what he is trying to get at with the people supporting him, remind them he's

not a moderate and people like john mccain are. >> yeah. mark to me i think this trump-mccain feud highlights really the problem that has existed in the party for a number of years now where you have really two different parties underneath the republican tent. i know you have been writing about this as well. you have the trump wing which is the aggravated bombastic group of voters. mccain wing more establishment government side of the party. and something i've been saying for sometime now is it may come to a point where the two different party vs to come -- they have to go up against each other. say that donald trump is a third party candidate. they have to go off in a general election and might lose in the short term but in the long run that's what the party needs to get back to normal. >> yeah. you know i think that is the biggest story about donald trump. there's no way to be the republican's presidential nominee in 2016 even if somehow he wins the iowa caucuses.

the rest of the party would make sure thatten in else gets that nomination. he is not going to be the gop's nominees but the fascination of donald trump, the rise in the poll, others decided to criticize him or not criticize him is a story about the republican party and you are exactly right. it is divided into two different groups. you have the governance group and john mccain was central into that and then the bombastic wing of the republican party. you know it's now trump. it was a couple of years ago it was sarah palin. you have had ted cruz filling that role a bit an we really are seeing that play out and seeing it play out in iowa and new hampshire. >> but, mark you know you pointed out something interesting, the difference in the response to the comments of veterans versus the previous comments dealing with immigration. and i wonder if part of the difference in that response doesn't have to do with the make-up of the gop primary electorate. i mean a large portion of that

electorate has to either have served themselves in the military or have a family member who served. >> that's exactly right. we had a poll of last year showing 40% of americans have a veteran in their immediate family. now, that could be a father or a sister or a brother. but it does show just how touches a lot of americans even though if not every american in the country serving, generations ago. and so it does touch and the military's often seen as an institution that you don't touch. you don't criticize it. the people in this day and age where it's a volunteer force. you don't criticize at all and seemed that donald trump was making a blow that was very below the belt here. and but again, and i think lauren made a really good point. john mccain necessarily isn't the avatar of conservative american movement today. he is someone who's seen as the establishment, particularly on the issue of immigration and i'm

not sure even though he's criticized a lot by beltway and media types, whether that's really going to seep down into the mainstream to the bloodstream of conservative movement. >> lauren you know as mark said, as many have said this guy is not going to be the republicans' nominee for the presidency. and it doesn't seem like he's going to be able to be a long-term factor in this. he's going to burn himself out f. you're one of the other people who are at the top of the polls, should you consider perhaps completely ignoring him, don't get an argument with him at all let him kill himself and you stay completely out of the way? >> that's one approach. i think the republican party especially talking about the issue of immigration, might be advantageous for the candidates and some of them is to speak out about what donald trump is saying. this might be an opportunity for the republican party to unite on immigration and make it clear where they stand so we don't have another situation like in 2012 when mitt romney only won 27% of the latino vote.

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right now, federal investigators are combing through every aspect of the chattanooga shooter's life hoping to find clues into thursday's rampage that killed five. his family is painting a picture of a history of depression and drug use. meantime families of the fallen continue to mourn at a funeral near the shooting site. the mother of navy sailor randall smith spoke through tears with our sarah dallof. >> reporter: is he your hero? >> since the day i gave birth to him. i have half a heart left and it is more my daughter. he is gone. >> sarah's with us this afternoon from chattanooga and,

sarah, where have investigators gotten in trying the find answers for this grieving community? >> reporter: hi, josh. investigators are chasing down some 200 leads. they have also discovered writings that talk about suicide and martyrdom dating back as far as 2013. according to a family statement, abdulazeez suffered from depression. a family representative said drug and alcohol abuse was a problem and that the trip of last year to jordan april to november was actually to try to get his life back on track. and to get away from what his family describe as bad influences here in tennessee. a childhood friend terry jones talked about a video abdulazeez made years ago as a class project and said it depicts him walking down downtown chattanooga walking to the beat of the music. he is wearing replicas of bombs strapped to the chest and the shop explodes. the friend said at the time it

seemed funny but a lot of people looking at that with fresh eyes as well as other events here in the community leading up to the shooting, the family says he was on a downward spiral in the three days leading up to the shooting. driving the rented mustang at excessive speeds around town. the community continues to mourn the five killed. blood drives over the weekend, church services were packed and as you can see behind me that memorial just continuing to grow. it is such a physical example of the grief and shock this community continues to feel. back to you guys. >> sarah with a grieving community out in chattanooga, sarah, thank you for that. and the tragic shooting restarted the standoff in america about guns. those two facilities in tennessee were considered gun free zones. even trained soldiers unarmed. flip side following the tragedy, governors in six states ordered military officials at these types of facilities now be armed. the feds seized three guns from

the shooter including an ak-47 style assault weapon. brand new cover story of "newsweek" examines if tug of war on this issue. senior writer kurt eichenberg wrote this piece. does there seem to be willingness to have a rational debate of guns keeping in mind times changed since the second argument was written. >> well the only way to have a rational debate is by tossing out the extremists on both sides. we have to ignore the nra. we have to ignore the gun control folks who are like let's take all the guns or take guns we don't understand. and the majority of the country is in fact quite in the middle on this topic. there are a lot of gun owners who want rational gun control.

like universal background checks. and there are a lot of nongun owners who, you know do not have this belief that the problem is a gun but instead, you know a lot of the accessories that go on these guns make them into slaughter weapons. >> kurt the entire piece seeks to strip away the extremes and comes up with some solutions that seem to be reasonable and part of what you say is americans should stop worrying about the guns and pay attention to the bullets. what did you mean by that? >> you know the fellow down in chattanooga, he had a gun that had a 30-round magazine. the john holmes at the aurora theater had a drum that had 100 bullets. he also had guns that had 30 bullets. well, these are called high

capacity mag sheens. they're not made with the gun. they're an accessory that you get to slam in there. and, you know when you have somebody who is dead set on you know, no pun intended but making as much of a massacre as possible, they don't want to have to reload and the more times they reload the greater possibility they're going to be stopped. well, gun owners say, incorrectly, that these accessories, these slaughter weapons, these things that make you be able to kill as many people as possible as fast as possible, are covered by the second amendment. and that has been established by federal court. it is not true. and so these kinds of devices need to be banned. >> let's dig deeper into that point. when the founding fathers wrote the second amendment did they intend for any citizen to carry

any gun anywhere? >> well actually no. they didn't. i mean, you know, very shortly after the bill of rights was adopted, you know president george washington signed a bill into law that instructed gun manufacturers what size the musket should be and what size of a musket ball it could carry. so, you know clearly, it wasn't intended anything anywhere. now, where we are today is the supreme court has made very clear in 2010 that the right to bear arms is an individual right and that it is not without limits but that they do have you know, gun owners do have the rights to a lot of different kinds of guns. and, you know there can be restrictions. the court made that clear. they didn't specify what the restrictions can be. >> there's a way to have this debate. kurt, thank you so much for being with us.

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new revelations about bill cosby's past emerging from a 10-year-old 1,000-page deposition acquired by "the new york times." in it, cosby at mites to having liaisons with many women. to this day, cosby is never criminally charged and at least 36 women have alleged to have improper contact with him. some of that of a sexual nature. for more let's bring in former federal prosecutor caleb mason. caleb, does any of this what we learned over the weekend from "new york times," does any of this change the possibility of criminal charges filed against

cosby at some point? >> at some point, it's still possible. however, it's very unlikely for most of the incidents that we have heard about. including those that are discussed in the deposition. it is always possible however, that more recent allegations would come to light. most of the statutes in this area are going to run from six years in california up to i believe the maximum of 12 in pennsylvania. more victims could easily come to light. >> caleb if you take -- i think it's crazy the fact that he could walk away with nothing and gives you a stomach ache here. is there a possibility that he could be charged for anything criminally, for instance, keeping something from the judge, dishonest about something that doesn't have to do with sex? >> you bet. that's probably the reason we have not heard anymore aggressive public statements from him. the options that i could think

of that would apply most readily would be perjury if he lied under oath and applies in depositions or obstruction of justice. if he tried to alter the testimony of any witness, pay off a witness, threaten a witness. you see that as a possibility a lot of times in high profile crimes where someone has an interest in keeping something from becoming public. >> what about civil liability? there's already been some litigation around this but presumably women who have been -- if they have been wronged by bill cosby in the past this environment and revelations should be easier to bring suit. right? >> it should. you have the problem of sta choouts of limitations again which also apply to civil suits and those are typically shorter n. california for example, the general statute's two years for a personal injury case involving a tort like this. but that does not mean as i said that other victims might not come out of the woodwork or there might not be basis for the

statute of limitations and something victims should be thinking about and speaking to lawyers about. that's an issue that could be raised, could be resolved maybe he would even settle some of the cases. they definitely still could be brought. >> one of the things that was really remarkable and disturbing about this deposition was just how much cosby willing to admit to and slate had an interesting piece quoetding a researcher saying that rapists will if you're interviewing them admit to a whole lot as long as you avoid calling it rape and to underscore he's not being charged with a crime at this point but a lot of women have made a lot of allegations and he's admitted to quite a bit. why did he say so much in this deposition? >> it is a fairly common dynamic that people accused of sexual assault where it's in the general category of what you would call in the trade buyer's remorse, that is an incident that's from one party's

perspective consensual that they will often admit to significant aspects of the incident and insist it was consensual and appear this is's what he was doing. i'm frankly lyly surprised the attorneys allowed him to admit that much. he should not have said under oath that he had quaaludes for the purpose of giving them to people who were potential sexual partners. that's an admission of a jury to find could reasonably lead to an inference that the victim was unable to consent. i think that's been the allegation in several cases. >> to reiterate what krystal was saying, not charged with anything. how common is this? we talk about rape raping a stranger, but you could say this is acquaintance rape right? seems in tv and movies it is often the stranger rape situation. how common is this type of situation whether he is found guilty of anything or not

talking about this just in normal life how often does this happen? >> right. well statistics on sexual assault are notoriously hard to come by because so many cases are not reported as we have seen in this situation. however, most experts will tell you acquaintance rape scenarios are far more common than forceable stranger rape scenarios. the preponderance with somebody of a relationship with the victim of some sort. so the scenario here is really fairly common on the spectrum of sexual assault allegations. >> caleb mason, thank you for your time. >> thank you. over the weekend, one of our favorite brilliant guys in the world steve kornacki gave another one of our favorite guys in the world the chance to throw out the first pitch at a brooklyn cyclones game because josh won the up against the clock tournament of champions. but josh's not thrown a baseball

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today history was made as the u.s. and cuba officially restored full diplomatic relations after five decades. and just moments ago, secretary of state john kerry wrapped up a press conference with cuba's foreign minister in washington. >> this is the first visit to the department of state by a cuban foreign minister since 1958. and today marks, as well the resumption of normal diplomatic ties between our countries and the reopening of our embassies after a rupture that has lasted 54 years. so, it's a historic day.

a day for removing barriers. >> it all became official this morning with the opening of embassies in both countries. the cuban flag raised bouds the new cuban embassy in washington flying over american soil for the first time since the u.s. severed ties in 1961. the u.s. embassy in havana opened with less fan fare. secretary kerry travels there august 14th to raise the american flag and for on this historic day, let's head to what van yeah and gabe gutierrez has the latest. >> reporter: good afternoon. for the first time in 54 years, the building is once again a u.s. embassy. for decades, the u.s. interest section here in havana. since 1977. last year president obama announced that both countries would move towards re-establishing diplomatic relations and this is seen as a huge step towards that. both countries officially now have diplomatic ties. the flag raising ceremony in -- that the cuban embassy in

washington broadcast live on state-run tv and the story is in the state-run newspaper this morning and on page four. and there has been a lot of distrust over decades built up between the two countries and many issues still remain including the u.s. trade embargo and the potential closing of the prison at guantanamo bay. unresolved issues and opposition in the u.s. to lifting the trade embargo. here this is seen as a huge step forward and symbolic to writes the countries together. others view it with guarded skepticism and many people here tourists and journalists, outside the u.s. embassy, some of the tourists and cubans wonder why there isn't a ceremony here today. well, that is being held for the next couple of weeks, secretary of state john kerry is expected to visit the island in the middle of next month and when the official flag raising ceremony will take place here at

this embassy. >> gabe, thank you for that. for more on the significance we bring in ted mccomb, former director of the inter-american affairs for the national security council. ted, when's the broader significance of this? obviously, that is restoration of normal relations but we have normal relations with a lot of countries we don't really get along with. when's next to bring the u.s. and cuba to more of a thaw? >> well, i think of a process of normalization that takes a while before there's anything like normal relations with cuba. there's so much historical baggage and a complex environment. i think looking ahead, this is really the end of phase one of this new paradigm of engagement that president obama and president raul castro initiated on december 17th. well, now will start a phase two and set of pragmatic dialogues and working groups to try to reach agreement on issues that are of interest and concern for

both countries. it will cover some very practical issues just sending mail to each other's country, counter narcotics cooperation, maritime, law enforcement, aviation. these are the things that normally do happen in diplomatic relations and i think that's the next step. overall, there's a much more complex environment that involves the embargo, guantanamo, property claims and most -- very importantly, human rights, as well. >> guantanamo is already part of the conversation and enough with the niceties. get down to the business. the cuban foreign minister demanded the return of the real estate of which the prison sits of guantanamo bay and andrea mitchell asked john kerry about that question moments ago. >> there is no discussion and no intention on our part at this moment to alter the existing lease treaty or other arrangements with respect to the naval station. but we understand that cuba has

strong feelings about it and i can't tell you what the future will bring but for the moment that is not part of the discussion. >> so, ted, now that the governments can officially talk, xwha's the likelihood of something happening regarding guantanamo bay? >> i think this is a longer term issue. the real problem of president obama solving is how do you close the detention center? that involves trying to get those prisoners out to other countries, since congress has blocked them from coming to the united states. the longer term question is do we the united states need a naval presence in cuba or in the caribbean? and i think that's an open question. there's some who feel like it's been useful various times. in migration crises for example, with haiti and cue bachlt but i think there's an argument also says we don't really need it as much as we needed it in the past. but that's a longer term issue. we have got much more pressing issues in the short term. >> ted, it seems to me there's a

connection between this new cuban policy and the iran deal because both seem to value engagement and dyiplomacy over ostracism and power production. do you see that connection, too? >> i think there's a general theme there that involves talking to those we disagree with. there are differences. cuba does not pose a major security threat to the united states or allies. this is a country that is, you know, falling way behind economically speaking. they don't have the kind of security presence or outreach to other parts of the world as they did in the past. they're no longer sponsored, soviet union is gone. they have a close relationship with venezuela. we have our own issues with venezuela. but again, not anything like the nuclear threat that iran poses. >> ted, thank you very much. up next can women be funny? there's $30 million answer to

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>> women run comedy. i love that. fandango's tamara mcnamara join us. >> thank you. >> why is amy schumer enjoying an incredible moment right now? >> she's having an incredible week. the tv show just got multiple emmy nominations and as of today she is officially a movie star because she had this amazing opening for her film where she was the star so she can open a movie. >> i love that clip that we just played because it reminds you how many incredible female comedians we have and have had and talk about the favorite today, tina fey is a great one, as if they're paving the way for this next generation and we don't talk about the generation before them that paved the way

for them. carol burnett is one of them. joan rivers. carol burnett is being honored with the lifetime achievement award this year for 2016 rather for sag. it's amazing thinking about the challenges of women face today to imagine what they faced back in the day. >> yeah. i mean it is really interesting because when you look at variety with the 25 shows that changed television, and the top two comedies were "i love lucy" and "the carol burnett show." and feels like women have been making comedy for a listening time. back to the '0s with may west and why is this a thing? >> so tara i went and saw "train wreck" this weekend and funny and thought of as an inversion of a lot of romantic comedy tropes and about the women who fall for them even though they're way too good for them. this is a movie about a woman a train wreck. is that progress? >> well i think it is progress

in the sense that yeah you know, it is kind of what amy schumer does right? kind of holds a mirror to hollywood and to so you know in "knocked up" seth rogan is an slubby screwed up guy smoking pot and then goes and gets katherine high l, right? we have a character of promiscuous and vices and can be a romantic lead and win our hearts, as well. >> i saw it as well. i loved it. hysterical from beginning to end. but i really love amy for "inside amy schumer" on comedy central and does just really smart things really funny things and interjectless more of a feministy edge into the comedy. i think you see the progress of some of the intelligence of her as a writer and an actor there. >> yeah. i mean it is refreshingly different. that is what works in comedy. you know whenever somebody has

an original idea look at feature films, you see the ones that really that are the biggest grossers like "bridesmaids" or "something about mary" or you know "the hangover" and movies that do something different and that's what amy schumer is doing on tv and film. >> thank you for your insights today. >> thank you. up next, sharks in "the cycle." the real-life attack caught on tv during a surf competition. we have the sneak peek at "shark-nado the."

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call it an occupational hazard but a terrifying moment for professional surfer was caught on live tv yesterday. take a look at this. ooh, three-time world champion mick fanning was caught on camera there. he fights back. manages to escape with only a severed leash to his surf board. a nearby safety team picked him up. and from that incredible close encounter caught on tape to shark terror of a different kind. shark know doenado is back. of course the sharks are all back for the latest installment. sharknado 3, oh hell no.

wreaks havoc from washington d.c. all the way to orlando. premieres this wednesday. we're joined by the writer of this classic summer staple. aman i bet knows a lot about storms. and the plot stul so far from reality it is not even close. what do you think the obsession is? and do you have any idea when you wrote the first one that you would be making a third? >> well i don't know why you say the plot is so far from reality. i mean that is documentary about global warming. it should be obvious to everybody. >> so you are not surprised. >> well of course i'm surprised. of course i am. when the fist came out nobody could have expected the way twitter blew up that night and the way everybody has taken to it. we thought we were making a little low budget film. but it's great it's been a

wonderful ride. and the way people have taken to it it's just amazing and heart warming and kind of surreal. and i'm a little concerned now that the sharks seem to be getting annoyed about it. was a they are definitely showing their displeasure this summer. >> i know. >> so you have written all three of these movies. where did this idea come from? where were when you were like i've got it, tornado full of sharks. >> i always get asked and the truth is i can't get credit. sci-fi had the title. the word sharknado. and for me it was a matter of coming up with a story to justify the title and make it sort of make sense. >> have you considered any other animal meets meteorological event thrillers, like for example, and these are just a few possibilities you can feel free to use or not.

tigerphoon or maybe bearicane or maybe snakenami. what do you think? >> that's trebillashl. >> the one i always favored was snail-quake. it it would be slow moving so there would be time for character development. no honestly we've done sharknado sharknado. i think it's done. i don't think you can go up from there. >> you called it a low budget film yourself. these films are loved. this is a phenomenon. but it is sort of a so bad it is good sort of deal. how do you get into that so bad it's good space rather than just it's so bad it's bad. >> i'm not sure i buy the so bad it is good thing. we're doing something ridiculous and having fun with it. any badness is at most a reflection of the budget. because we are doing $200 million films on like a $1

million budget. so that goes with the territory. and i think that that campiness has endeared it to people. as far as getting in the mind space it is really just like any other movie, where any other movie would stop and say wait, this is unbelievable, we just get to keep going. >> how do you get to keep going? how do you up the ante? you were saying the first is more than anyone could actually believe was possible making in this movie. what do you do with the third to keep people coming back. >> you go bigger and better. three times the shark, three times the nados and a 100% more hoff. we've expanded the scope to the whole east coast. and actually we do a lot with the quaker scharacters. people make a big thing about the sharks and the inasante. but at the heart of it.

insanity. there is heart to sharknado. he starts off at this broken down has been surfer and by this movie he's a world famous ward from the president of the united states. so it's been an amazing raid.e inging ride. and we just keep going bigger and aiming high. >> what is next? is this going to be a trilogy? do you expect to make a movie every year? a video game a board game? how else can we enjoy sharknado at home. >> well i think sharknado can keep on going. i think it can be a yearly event. there's been talk about making it a national holiday. and of course i'm all in favor of that. as far as the board games, i'd be in favor of that if i got a cut of it. but so far nobody's offered that yet. >> so no spoilers here but what is the like -- haveis there a

particularly ridiculous scene in this next one that we should know about? >> i'm hoping that it will be the ending again. i think, you know, in the first one fin goes into a shark and cuts his way out and drags nova out after him. and in the second one he surfs the shark through the sky and lands it on the empire state building and pulls tara's hand out of the shark and takes the ring off the finger and proposes to her. there is a lot of pressure to top that. and i think we've done something just out of the world this time. and i hope the audience agrees with us. >> you have a beautiful mind my friend. >> i imagine they will, look, you are clearly the best thing in sci-fi. i bet when you walk in that sci-fi building there are trumpets and red carpet and feeding you grapes. like you are the man, please

keep going. we love you so much. is it like that? >> you know i haven't actually been into the building. they don't really let me out much. but, you know, i'm developing a new tv series that is a little sharknadoesque in tone called "dive." and i'm hopeful if not sci-fi then somebody will take it. it will be great if it ends up on sci-fi. >> you have done something seemingly impossible today. been able to grab people's attention. people are excited about this movie. i don't care if people want to hate on it or whatever. people clearly love it. thanks for being with us. that's it for the skl. now with alex wagner starts now. business cosby admits to using drugs to seduce women in newly released court documents. and hackers are threatening to

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