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16 candles for the gop but who holds the eternal flame? good afternoon. i'm krystal ball. coming on the air, it is my super sweet 16 or maybe this is better. 2016 meets a '80s pop culture classic. "16 candles." who wishes for this? there's 16 republican candidates vying for the white house. ohio governor and former congressman john kasich threw his hat into the ring a short time ago. >> i have to humbly tell you, i mean humbly tell you, that i believe i do have the skills and
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i have the experience. i have the experience and the testing. >> but also today, donald trump was in south carolina hoping to crash that kasich party. can only imagine the governor's reaction. >> i can't believe this. they [ bleep ] forgot my birthday. >> trust me. we have going somewhere with this. john kasich kind of like anthony michael hall's character, an underdog with redeeming qualities who refuses to give up. if only someone would give him a chance. he's got to start with people knowing who he is and times, of course, of the essence. first debate is now just two week ss away. he is not invited to the party as of now.
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only top ten make the stage. kasich isn't even close and maybe this is why. he expanded medicaid under obamacare. he favors a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants and voted in support of an assaults weapon ban served in congress for nine terms helping to balance the budget in the clinton era fights in the '90s. he was also on the armed services committee, this's national security cred for him. this is not akasich's first presidential bid. the only election that he's ever lost. part of why he left washington in the first place was the frustration with that process. he thought maybe he could make a bigger impact at the state level. voters clearly agreed. governor kasich is coasting through the second term right now with a 60% approval rating and that is worth noting because no president since jfk has won the white house over without winning ohio.
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msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt in columbus ohio where kasich got the party started today. what was the mood like in that room? >> reporter: well krystal, this is a roomful of supporters,al ma mater and said he could throw a stone and hit the dormitory where he started his career. this is as you said the two-term governor of one of the state that essentially has decided the last several presidential elections and, yet, he barely registered in the polls at this point. donald trump was able to upstage him by handing out one of his opponent's cell phone numbers and so kasich's challenge here to break out of the pack. i'll say his message and the way he talks about the issues at hand is different than any one of the other 15 candidates and certainly other that is talk about the american dream, et cetera, but kasich really focuses on what he marginalized pop lags the working poor. he talks about the mentally ill, people addicted to drugs and
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talking about how those are things he's really focused on here in ohio and how those are issues that the republican party's going the need to focus on if they're going to have success in the general election going forward into 2016. the question is whether or not he can actually pull himself up out of this enormous pack of candidates. his advisers say that will happen in new hampshire if it happens anywhere. at all. they acknowledge privately that jeb bush in particular would probably have to make a pretty big mistake for kasich to rise up out of the pack krystal. >> all right. kasie hunt in columbus, thank you so much for that that leads to the guest spot with analyst howard fineman at "the huffington post." great to see you. >> hi. how are you? >> if kasich can't make it to the debate stage, does he stand a shot? how important is it to make it into that top ten? >> well i think it's important but not indispensable.
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he's raised john kasich raised about $6 million, $7 million, i believe, at least. as kasie said he'll make a big play in new hampshire where he's got the backing of some key people such as former senator john sununu and undecided moderate republicans, moderate to conservative republicans in new hampshire who haven't gone with jeb bush because they don't think jeb's got the juice to make it. have hung back and waited for kasich. i was in new hampshire the other week and i was impressed by the people sort of waiting for kasich. so i don't think that this debate is necessarily indispensable and possible that donald trump makes a hash of the debate entirely and not be of much use to anybody else except possibly donald trump. i know kasich. i covered him when he was in the congress. he's a serious guy. who thinks about issues
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seriously. and as kasie also said he is from ohio. i would keep him on the radar screen, whatever happens with the debate in cleveland. >> anything can happen at this point in the race. i've got say, howard, though this does remind me an awful lot of my dad running for president four years ago. the media had fun with this. i tweeted out this morning, same team. >> yeah, right. >> very similar timing late in the race an i said i hope it ends better for him. >> yeah. >> i could go on forever about political consultants. i'll leave that rant for another day. you were hitting on this, my dad and kasich similar in the sense of pragmatic conservative problem solvers. they've proven they know how to govern in the past. both worked under ragan. both probably make very good presidents. as you know being a good president is very different from being a good candidate.
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you have to be an entertainer. feed the far right and say things you don't always agree with. what can kasich learn and i'll put you on the spot and learn from my dad four years ago that where he could just pop this time? >> well to both praise your dad and criticize the current process, i think he can't be as nice as your dad. i think your dad was a gentleman on the campaign trail. and we all know what happens to gentlemen on the campaign trail. they get run over. i think kasich's a fighter. i think he is from a big eastern to east american state, abby. that makes a difference. i think he's had to contend with tough democrats, with labor unions, with all of the sort of pan plea of minority and interest groups that make up the country. ohio is a microcosm of the country. kasich a 60% approval rating in a state that's a microcosm of america. he's tough and a fighter. sometimes too much so. the big criticism of john kasich
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unlike your dad who's i think pretty much always control in public unless i missed something -- >> we can leave that for another day. >> i can private. i said public. you know john kasich has a reputation for a thin skin telling people to get off, you know, just go away and get out of here. a little bit of chris christie here. i put kasich and christie in a way together. they both have problems reaching the right wing of the party. but they both have governed essentially either purple or blue states which when they come to making a ticket i would say that kasich whatever happens with him in the primaries, has got to be depending on whether they take the hispanic thing at the top with either bush or rubio, kasich's got to be considered as somebody for veep if for no other reason than the i mentioned. >> we had donald trump in south carolina continuinging his feud
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with south carolina senator graham. yesterday lindsey graham called trump a jackass and this is trump's response to that today. >> they gave me his number. i found the card. i wrote the number down. i don't know if it's the right number. try it. 202-[ bleep ] [ bleep ]. i don't know. maybe it's three, four years ago. maybe an old number. >> so this -- >> how weird. >> this obviously is not -- this is not donald trump toning it down. there was also a bit of news for donald trump. this new poll of abc and "the washington post" and the poll conducted over several days the last day sunday after trump had taken a fair amount of heat over the comments of john mccain not being a war hero and he fell into single digits. "the washington post" said that the move so sharp from 28% down to single digits and statistically significant even with the small sample s. this
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the electorate sending him a tone it down message? >> you can't use the word finally in the july before an election that doesn't -- the primaries don't begin until next february. >> this feels like it's been going on forever. >> doesn't it though? the thing is that first of all, a month is a year and a year is a lifetime in politics. donald trump is running so hot political campaigns are a three or five act. like a shakesperian five-act drama. they're not an eight-second vine. you know? this is like over and over and over again. my question is how many people can he -- does he have enough people to insult and get in fights with between now and next february? this that seems to be his whole campaign. >> that's brilliant tie polls at this point really don't mean that much. because a lot of it really is -- especially with 16 candidates
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it's mostly name recognition and lord knows donald trump if he didn't have 100% name recognition before he has it now but as you point out with name recognition comes the evaluation. and i would say that that drop on the last day is something that baerls watching. i would be surprising if however meaningless the early polls if he goes that much higher. i see 30%, 35% top for him. >> howard, we can tell your wife keeps you wise and your kids keep you hip. working out at the fineman family. the democratic side, the leader of the democratic party, president obama landed here in new york city 30 minutes ago and on with jon stewart tonight and back to the heart of progressiveness, net roots nation martin o'malley did something disgraceful responding saying white lives matter. he apologized for that.
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bernie sanders followed him and he said he's been working for civil rights and with civil rights activists for decades. i believe that in his heart he would do the right thing if he were in the oval office. starting in 2017. but he's been unable to attract black supporters and unable to speak to the black potential electorate in a compelling way. let's look at what he did at net roots nation. >> and the issue -- the issue is -- >> hold on one second. >> the issue is -- that it is -- shall i continue when we -- >> hold on a second. hold on. hold on. >> it's okay with me. listen. black lives, of course matter. i spent 50 years of my life fighting for civil rights and for dignity. if you don't want me to be here that's okay. >> howard, why can't bernie communicate bet we are the black audiences? >> generational difference
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number one. he comes from the era of when whites were patting themselves on the back for helping to lead the civil rights movement. that sort of doesn't work anymore. and also he's from vermont and even though he's part of the democratic coalition, he doesn't have a lot of experience dealing with minority groups because of his -- because of where he's from. generational and where he's from. >> i was there. it was a tone deaf response and more to say about that later. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you goois. always fun. coming up what the candidates wives are thinking of all of this. rick perry has been outspoken on trump. what does his wife anita have to say about her husband and about the presidential race? abby sat down with her one on one. my take on what a robot presidential race would look like. spoiler alert, you are looking at one. and millions of americans are sweating it out across the country. is there any relief in sight? but next the untold story of el chapo's first escape and
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el chapo guzman broke out of a maximum security prison -- >> a portrait of mexico's infamous drug lord. >> manhunt under way to recapture -- >> el chapo is back on the run. >> years in the making. two filmmakers journeyed deep inside his sinaloa cartel. >> pbs with exclusive new details tonight on el chapo
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guzman widely considered the world's biggest drug dealer and the world's most dangerous criminal. and now, a fugitive. el chapo's sinaloa cartel has tentacles from the western coast of mexico through america, europe and all the way to australia. everywhere. if someone in this country smokes weed or uses meth, it is likely the product came out of el chapo's organization. he's had to murder murder many people and pay off many many others. it was estimated in order to be able to walk out of prison ten days ago, guzman must have paid at least $50 million to a wide range of prison officials and guards. reports say those guards were calling him lord. so he's a homicidal master criminal with an army arming him and most of the country under his thumb and led the next guest to think, hey, i think i should talk to that guy in mexico. what could possibly go wrong? >> over the following months we
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were twice more invited up. each time el chapo decided not to go on camera. for all of the disappointment we had found him exactly where we expected him to be. >> wow. follow the hunt for el chapo before his 2014 recapture tonight at 10:00 p.m. on your local pbs station. one of the filmmakers angus mcqueen is with us. i love these great, rich songs about him, sort of like extolling how great he is, how powerful he is, the tentacles stretching through everything and the people love him, partly because he's the welfare state, he's so powerful and yet, murdered so many people in this country that they have to be afraid of him, as well. did you find that the people generally loved him or feared him more? >> i think there's a complete
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mix of relationship with this man. once i think most mexicans register that they live in this incredibly violent society and that that is to do with the drugs. but equally, they despise their government and the almost extraordinary comedy of his escape last week has surely humiliated the government and revealed in so many ways the levels of corruption and the nature of the government. so i think the average mexican has a very odd relationship to chapo. they fear him. but they also rather admire him in the tradition of old mexican, you know smugglers. that whole tradition that's so strong. >> well, that's a lot of obviously fascinating footage in this doc. one scene that was particularly interesting as you actually got a smuggler to show you how he's able to hide bricks of narcotics in a van.
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let's take a look at that. this is a massive, multi-national, huge business. this drug trade. how are they able to actually accomplish getting these goods shipped all around the world? >> listen. it's fundamentally a business. the profits from getting the kilo of meth in that car across the border into the united states is so great that they can cope with losses. i think if you look at the real
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figures on the authorities' ability to stop the trade, it's pathetic. in britain, it's under 1% of illegal heroin that's imported to britain. in the states i don't know the exact figures. but if you've got those sums of money, you can build submarines. you can have cars that have leaded lining. and, of course with chapo, you can have his masterpiece which is the tunnel. he not only tunnels out of prison but he's built hundreds of tunnels under the u.s. -- the mexican-u.s. border. and he has smuggled huge quantityies of drugs all over the states. and all over the world. >> and how did he keep this business together while he was in prison? i mean this didn't like owning shares in a publicly traded company. you would think el chapo going to prison is an opportunity for the number two to usurp him and take over the business.
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how did he maintain that control behind bars? >> historically, his organization, the sinaloa cartel, also called the federation. and while it's unclear exactly how the structure of the federation works, we know that that there are other figures, there's a character who is known to be almost in partnership with chapo. when's brilliant about chapo is that he's this iconic legend in mexico and now across the world. in fact the evidence is his presence in prison or out of prison is pretty irrelevant. the price of cocaine in l.a. or chicago or new york didn't go up when he got caught. and it didn't go down when he escaped. >> wow. angus, a fantastic documentary. congratulations on that. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. a weather alert. 53 million americans under a heat advisory today.
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the heat index topping triple digits. 103 to 107 from dallas to savannah. here in new york sweating it out in the 90s. storms tonight expected to help cool things down a bit by tomorrow. unfortunately not the case for the central section of the country. that will be feeling the heat into the weekend with some of the hottest temperatures of the summer. sorry, guys. go hard on the ice cream and the cold showers. you deserve it. ♪ ♪ no student's ever been the king of the campus on day one. but you're armed with a roomy new jansport backpack, a powerful new dell 2-in-1 laptop and durable new stellar notebooks, so you're walking the halls with varsity level swagger. that's what we call that new gear feeling. you left this on the bus... get it at the place with the experts to get you the right gear. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. esurance was born online. they have smart online tools which saves money. they settle claims quickly which saves money.
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we are back now in the sin cycle with a first look at wildly popular show of hbo "real sports." athletic competition produces winners and losers. what happens when everyone wins? tonight correspondent bernie goldberg reports on americans' trophy culture and what the kids might be losing out on. >> sign up and your child is guaranteed a trophy win or
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lose, first place or last. welcome to america's trophy culture. >> we lost almost every game this season. >> yes. >> oh we had one heck of a good time doing it. >> this isn't even a trophy for effort or trying. it's a trophy for participation. it sets the bar pretty low. >> you will want to be sure to catch the full segment at 10:00 p.m. on hbo and catch our take right now. and, josh some of the numbers here so they interviewed a business owner who now is part of the largest trophy company in the country. and when his mom started it mom and dad started it they were making about 25,000 to $40,000 in revenue a year and now a $50 million trophy empire. creating jobs. when's not to like in. >> i don't know that i buy this thing. people are always saying oh this new generation is so soft and we were so much tougher. i mean we showed on the show yesterday, unfortunately, this
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clip of me throwing out the first pitch at a minor league baseball game. >> did you get a trophy for that? >> no, i didn't. >> that was the trophy. >> that's true. i were bad. >> you would have gotten a trophy in today's world. >> the last time i played baseball was in first grade and came in last in part because i was terrible. i did get a trophy. i knew we were terrible. >> right. >> i knew that the participation trophy there was not an actual symbol of the quality. the fact that everyone get astro if i means people don't pay attention and silly and on the other hand i think people get that it doesn't mean anything. >> trophy inflation. >> not making everyone into donald trump. >> wow. thank god. i think that's right. i think everyone get astro if i philosophy is a reaction to what gen-x grew up with. intense afterschool competition and we said that's not the way and creating a sense of wholeness in us, not making us feel better about ourselves. we want to do parenting
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differently. when you are under 12 your self image is still forming, self esteem is still forming. very valuable to nurture children at that age and make them feel like you are special. they're all special. you're okay. after 12 -- >> oh good. i was going to disagree. no. whoa. >> no, whoa. i totally disagree. this remind me of tic-tac-toe with little kids. should you always let them win? they feel like they're winning and the best. i have moments like when you were a kid and remember forever and some of those are when you lose. i remember my mom put me in a swim meet competition and forgot to buy me goggles. i finally fin initialled and so mortified i didn't gate trophy for that. you know what? it makes you stronger. i was younger than 12 at this time. but it's also the good times. initial the things i won, as well. i think getting into the real world, it is those moment that is prepare you for that. no course in college like life
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101 that teaches you what to do when you lose your job or break up with someone. those are the tough things you face in life. i'm sorry -- >> if you got a trophy after you lost that race you never would have learned that lesson. >> never, never. >> they're losing. they said we lost almost every game and a trophy to make them feel a little better about the whole thing. >> i think josh is right, too. i was a swimmer and trophies distributed to the swimmers on the team and you knew there were certain ones like everybody gets that one. and certain awards that actually were meaningful. kids can recognize whether they're winning or losing or not. and, you know this status -- in that movie "waiting for superman" that american kids may be struggling in math and science and number one in how confident they are. and that's normally painted as a bad thing. >> that's good. >> it is good because -- >> what? >> because if you look at the facts, in the workplace, the thing that is rewarded is not competence. it is confidence. >> what about entitlement?
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i do worry about that. cultivating them so much shelter them up until they're 12, then there's a sense of not wanting to take a risk. >> entitlement got to learn grit. make them feel good about themselves. >> there's a balance with everything. right? >> that's abby's take. >> okay. >> a balance. up next abby's one on one with anita perry, what she says about rick perry's infamous painful oops moment and whether or not she is ready now to be president and a new brand of conservatism based on heart and on helping the poor. this is something i definitely want to hear more about.
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northrop grumman. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive? when you run for president, you put yourself out there. some candidates even more so than others. like, say, a certain candidate named donald trump. who are the candidates when the lights go off? that is something only a spouse would know. so as part of a special series with nbc news.com i'm sitting
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down with candidates' better halves to get the other story. i talked to kelly rand and i got lindsey graham and now governor rick perry's wife anita perry grabbing coffee and talked she left nothing off the table. >> so you said last time you wished you didn't push him so hard to run. because you were a big force. do you regret that? do you running last time? >> it's not that i regret running. i regret the ending and the consequences that we have suffered since then. when you look back he wasn't prepared for what he should have done to run for the presidency. >> the third agency of government, i would -- i would do away with education, the -- >> commerce. >> commerce. and let's see. i can't -- the third one i can't. sorry. oops. >> what was your role during that moment afterwards? because you're the one person he goes home with. >> it was very difficult.
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and sitting there in the audience that night, i'm going, i can't even remember the third agency. we all had those lapse in memory. you know? everybody has them. >> we're just not running for president on the national stage. >> that's true. not in front of 4 million people. >> i have to ask about the glasses. when interviewed the governor about a year ago, he gave you credit for the glasses and they're now infamous. >> i know. i know. i can't believe that. you know? >> so what's the backstory there. >> i can't believe no one asks me to help them pick out the glasses. i did go with him. that was the pair that i picked out. i'm not sure why he went with that pair. >> do you have a name for them, the glasses? >> they're a little bookish. >> you can catch the entire interview at nbc news.com and the personal side that posts later this week. you heard him the memorable debate moment and now with the first 2016 gop debate just over two weeks away it's an open
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question what wrand of conservatism will win the day? perry's, trump's, jeb bush's? our next guest offered a new way forward, a version based on get this, heart. fighting poverty, reforming education and promoting economic opportunity, not for the 1% but those at the bottom of the income curve. arthur brooks is author of "the conservative heart" and president of the american enterprise institute and great to have you at the table. >> thank you. >> i love what you have been writing about and thinking about the party today and you have governor kasich who announced just today he is running among the 16. >> that's right. >> he in my opinion represent what is you're talking about, someone that expanded medicaid in the state and very big on the budget and cutting spending. and then you have donald trump who is the one leading in the polls. kasich can barely make ground and trump represents the opposite of what you are talking about. where is his heart in all of this? >> early on in the campaign you find that people have a big bump
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and it's a temporary phenomenon. with donald trump, we're left with mainstream candidates jeb bush, marco rubio, scott walker and chris christie will have a big comeback too. these are people that talk about the people left behind over the past seven years in the society. the people who are more likely to be on food stamps harder time finding a job and realize conservatives in general better have an answer for this and point of fact i think the conservatives need to examine the conscious to win and they want to be morally right. are we working for the people with less power than us? >> seeing center stage of this debate and developing over the past 20 30 years is mounting inequality. >> right. >> do conservatives have an answer to closing that divide? is that something that's important? >> they better. now, the unique advantage of conservatives is they can take on the argument of too much income inequality and say the
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issue is opportunity inequality. if we don't have an answer for the increasing opportunity gap in america -- >> let me follow up on that. the majority of jobs created in the country are low wage jobs. how do we shift to the economy of opportunity for all? >> well it starts with education reform which we have not taken seriously. and this is, of course a 20-year goal and doesn't start until we start it. the second thing is we have to be warriors for the expansion of high skill jobs that don't require a college education. we are not taking vocational education seriously. worker retraining. not thinking of energy reform and tax reform of areas of policy to be thinking about increasing the number of jobs for people in this country that could have skills but don't require a college education. we are not taking it seriously and we could do a lot more. >> i feel like there's a disconnect conservatives talking about these jobs. calling up the american enterprise institute and what can we do to get people out of
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work into jobs a lot of things they say cost money. make it easier for low-income workers to get transportation to work. how do you match that up with the commitment on the republican side to tax cuts and particularly lower tax rates at the top? math doesn't add up. spending money on those things you have to be able to tell conservative con stitstituencyies there's no top tax income rate of 28%. >> it depends on how you're spending your tax money. i want to spend tax money on the eitc and more vocational education and that's not the real source of spending in this country, josh. the real source of spending is out of control entitlements not just part of the safety net for the poorest americans. frankly, we are not able to honor commitments to the least of these in the united states with an ironclad safety net which we should be proud of unless we start to take on the problem in a realistic way. you have been writing about this. i've read your stuff and
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spending 70% of our national spending of our federal spending on entitlements and we can't do the other stuff we want to do. >> let me turn the conversation a little bit. we can agree to disagree about -- >> may or may not disagrow. >> the rhetoric from the right is racist nativist not just trump but steve king so many others coulter, rush. is that productive? >> of course it is unproductive to be vilifying certain people who are the most vuler nbl, a bully to those vulnerable in the society. it's got to stop. here's the basic math easy too. even i can get it. if you want more people to vote conservative, you have to expand the number of friends in america opposed to making a smaller group and firing them up more and the way to do that is making people understand that conservatives are inclusive, that they have a humanistic impulse, tolerant and want to fight for those people in the
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united states and even those that don't vote for republicans. >> are you sure you don't want to run for president? >> thank you. there are will have 475 candidates fly's still time. >> america's not ready for a bald president. >> i don't know. i think we're ready for anything at this point. thank you. >> thank you. all right. shifting gears a bit, up next could this dino do your job? you might be surprised. over 20 million kids everyday in our country lack access to healthy food. for the first time american kids are slated to live a shorter life span than their parents. it's a problem that we can turn around and change.
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welcome. welcome to the hotel. >> that terrifying dinosaur with the adorable hat isn't part of the jurassic world sequel. he works the front desk of a new hotel. as of this weekend, the dinosaur, a female android and a tiny toy robot check guests in to the hotel at southern japan and another robot takes your bags to the room. i wonder how you tip a robot. our next guest believes as we race ahead, military technology 3d printing and bio engineering, we need to take a step become and think about the advances the impact they will have on society. wendell wolak is a scholar at yale's university's center for bio ethics and author of "a dangerous master." so how big a phenomenon is this? you have a hotel with a gimmick and when people talk about this big change robots start doing
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everything, that's notdata. if that's happening, we would expect economic growth. is this actually a really big, important phenomenon and in 20 years will we say the hole hotel is staffed by robots now? >> how many jobs will truly be turned over to robots is the question. but they are just entering the commerce of every day life and we have artificial intelligence taking over more and more activities and could be a real concern. in fact by some estimates as many as -- as much as 40% of u.s. jobs could be replaced by computerization. >> so, wendell, what part of this brave new world concerns you the most from a moral ethical standpoint? >> well there's really a great number of different concerns but this technological unemployment the possibility that at last we're reaching this point where technology may replace more jobs than it actually creates.
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that is one of the concerns. but i'm also earnconcerned about the ability to alter the genome enhancements to human facultyiesfaculties, killer robots. the different technologies may even be inventing the world as we have known it or even the human species as we have known it out of existence. i'm not trying to jump so much in the science fiction as just bring to light that there are these very broad societial impacts that we're about to enjoy. >> the more the technology and robots take over our society, things are bound to happen right? mistakes are going to be made. maybe you have a self-driving car that runs a red light. you have a robot serving as restaurants that spills coffee on someone's leg and burns them. whose fault will it be when you have robots running this world? we think lawsuits are difficult today. can't imagine what that would be like. >> well probably will be liability insurance to cover a
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and i think the robots have decided to start at the top by running for president. if you were a robot intent on world domination becoming a leader of the free world wouldn't be a bad place to start. i gathered evidence of the robot takeover this weekend at net roots nation on sunday. martin o'malley and the bernie sands are were thrown for a loop when black lives matters took over a town hall. surely they would know what to do, right? wrong. first up was o'malley when he queried his database for something with resonance he came back with this. >> black lives matter white lives matter. all lives matter. >> as you haeshdeard, the humans in the audience growned and booed. a thinking human could have discerned that the whole point is that while all lives matter
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not all lives are equally under threat. after i asked the governor if he understood. and he replied he failed to keep up with the shifting lexicon. surprisingly, senator sanders was not much better. he was preset to run his race neutral inequality programming and no pesky protester were going to move off that script. telling the audience if you don't want me to be here that is okay. two candidates two worldly tone deaf and robotic responses. somewhere i'm sure hillary clinton breathed a o sigh of relief she decided to skip the event. everybody human being knew exactly what to do. show a little empathy. nothing fancy. just garden variety human emotion. describing her walking catastrophe of a parade.
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protesters screamed in her face. she remained unaware of the chaos with a smile painted on her face. afterwards all she could manage was the romneyesque and almost certainly untrue "i like parades." and it took three weeks to process donald trump's comments. and despite the collapse of the soviet union a financial crash and decades of the flat wages the economic policies precipitations haven't had an update since ronald reagan. do we deserve for all the campaigns to be bloodless and condescend condescending. i'm not saying passing the beer test is the only thing that matters but is it crazy to think that the next president should be someone who's command of the facts impresses us and also someone we'd like to have a beer. that ice it for the skl.
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now with alex wagner starts right now. an antiabortion group releases a second undercover video with a planned parenthood official. dash cam footage of sandra bland's arrest in texas is expected to be released this afternoon. and ohio governor john kasich becomes the 16th republican in the 2016 field. despite weeks of controversy and calls to drop out, polls show donald trump to be indeed the teflon don. it is tuesday july 21st and this is "now." >> thaf love me. they love me. >> trump jump a new poll finds donald with a commanding lead in the race. >> they like his message and like he's mixing things up. but when push comes
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