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amazing. >> agree. that's why i think they'll do it. >> congressman john larson. great to have you. i'm ed schultz. "politics nation" with the reverend al sharpton starts right now. tonight on "politics nation," can you hear him now? donald trump giving out private cell phone numbers on national television? that's the least of the problems he's causing for the gop today. also, new details from the sandra bland police report. what the officer says happened during her arrest. plus hackers take control of a car on a major highway. i'll talk to the driver about why it was done and what it could mean for you the next time you get behind the wheel. we begin tonight with the republican hurricane tearing down anything and everything in
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his path. donald trump. today's controversy came from an event in south carolina when trump responded to criticism from fellow candidate senator lindsey graham. >> i was coming up and i see your senator. what a stiff. what a stiff. lindsey graham. i got called a jackass by this guy. then i said to myself hey, didn't this guy call me like four years ago? yes, he called me three, four years ago. lindsey graham i didn't even know who he was. he wanted to know whether or not i could give him a good reference. he wanted to know would i do that. then, of course he wanted to know whether or not he could come and see me for some campaign contributions. >> and then trump did something i've never seen a public figure do. >> he said could you mention my name. i said yes. and he gave me his number. and i found the card. i wrote the number down. i don't know if it's the right
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number. let's try it. [ [ bleep ] ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] i don't know maybe it's three, four years ago, it's an old number. i don't know. give it a shot. >> just when i thought i heard it all, he gives out a sitting senator's personal cell phone number on live tv. senator graham had a sense of humor about it. tweeting, probably getting a new phone. iphone or android? but what donald trump's doing to the gop field isn't funny for the party. he has all the attention. nobody's talking about the other candidates. and, oh by the way, this happened today, too. >> i am here to ask you for your prayers, for your support, for your efforts because i have decided to run for president of the united states.
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>> ohio governor john kasich entered the race today, but trump has all the attention. and candidates are doing anything they can to steal some of the spotlight. the des moines register says trump should pull the plug on his campaign calling it a bloviating side show because trump is acting like a side show even though he's the main event. you know i was at "the washington post" today talking to some of the reporters in a roundtable discussion we had on things we were involved in. and when they were asking me about trump, i told them it reminded me when i started running for president, i remembered something james brown, the godfather of soul told me. he was like a father figure. he said, reverend in las vegas you have the lounge acts and you
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have the acts in the main room. the lounge acts have to compete with the gambling and the noise and the drinks and the bars so they have to do a lot of different things to get attention. they have a different kind of show. but when you go in the main room, you have to be more rehearsed and choreographed. you've got to deal with these are people sitting for dinner with their wives or their husbands and their families. you can't do a lounge act in the main room or a main room act in the lounge. somebody ought to give donald trump the james brown advice. he's on the main stage running for president now. he's not competing for little deals in his business. joining me now are perry bacon and jamal simmons. thank you both for being here. >> thanks, reverend. >> perry, i've never seen anything like it. giving out a number. now this will dominate the news cycle. how can other candidates deal
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with this? i mean how do they get noticed? >> i think you're seeing what they're trying to do this morning is lindsey graham and rick perry are now trying to attack donald trump. because they know that's the only way you can get news. there was a study out today that showed that 46%, 46% of the stories right now in the republican primary are about donald trump meaning he's getting covered as much as the other 15 guys are combined. the reason is because whatever you think of donald trump he's brilliant at courting the media and getting attention. i'll be honest with you, after he gave up that cell phone number of lindsey graham i called it. because i'm a journalist and i have to check that kind of thing. it was in fact graham's cell phone number. i was shocked but i knew i had to cover it. because dond trump keeps doing things that we're riveted by and he's kind of winning the attention. he's not gooding to be the nominee, but he's definitely grabbing the microphone from all the other candidates.
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>> that's the question. what's the endgame? what does he think this leads to? because as you said he's not going to be the nominee. 62% of the poll that has him up to 24 -- 62% of them said they don't know if they'd vote for him being president. jamal, if you were consulting for the gop, what's your strategy here? what do you do to deal with this? >> well it's very hard to do because what you really ought to do is just shut down the attention. the problem is reince priebus, the chairman of the republican party, doesn't have the ability to go to tv networks and newspapers and tell them to stop covering donald trump. and donald trump understands incredibly well how to make news. i think perry's right, his primary purpose here is to try to figure out how to rate. he just wants to get -- he wants to do well with his demo so that he can every day make news. i remember being on campaigns, you sit around and think about how can we make news tomorrow? what policy position are we going to about put out? what endorsement are we going to put out? you come up with ways to move
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the debate forward and get your candidate more gravitas and energy and attention. i think they only think about what can we do to spin the wheel to get everybody back focused on donald trump for a day on something that has nothing to do with the country except when it comes to him talking to his really conservative base about immigration. >> but that's my point, perry. you run for president either to govern because you're trying to win to govern or because you're running to highlight and bring out in the mainstream political discussion a cause. that's why i ran. you don't want your causes to be sidestepped or marginalized. but donald trump's cause is donald trump. and his businesses and branding the businesses and that's my take on it. i mean let me play a little more of the event today. >> everyone figured keep trump out of the debates because he'll
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never file his financials. because he doesn't want to see -- he doesn't want people to see that maybe he's not as wealthy as people thought. well, it turned out that i'm much wealthier than people thought. i built a great company. the apprentice they paid me 213 million. you know what that means? when i give up "the apprentice" to run to help you people straighten out this mess -- >> you see nothing about policies. there's no policies. there's no causes there's no this is how we ought to be governing. it's just all bluster. and is that the way to run against him, perry? >> i think the way to run against him, would be to focus on iowa and new hampshire. remember, the polls last time showed the national polls rick santorum was way, way down. he went to all those counties he won the primary. that's how john mccain won. i think the republican candidates would be better off in some ways trying to figure out a way, how do i -- the national polls don't matter.
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the debate does matter but you can win the primary without being in the debate. you're not going to out-attention donald trump, but you can out-campaign him. >> why not challenge him and ask him what is his policies on health care what is his policies on iran what are your policies on criminal justice? lindsey graham sent out a fund-raising e-mail today saying quote, donald trump continues to show hourly that he is ill-prepared to be the commander in chief. and friend this is the time when senator graham needs your support the most. so in a way, graham is in the news cycle. could this fight actually help him? >> if you are one of the candidates who are struggling for attention and poll ratings, fighting up, punching with donald trump is actually a good strategy to get attention. i got to tell you though the thing i don't want us to lose focus on is how dangerous donald
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trump is. he reminds me of -- i remember being in france and you see the national front party who was going out against immigration or you're in italy and you look at like berlusconi who was this big blustery guy who actually became the president or the prime minister of italy. you know so we say donald trump can't make it. that's probably true he can't. but what he's unleashing in the electorate by going after mexican immigrants this way is such a dangerous thing for me. because he's going to force all the other republicans in the race to have to talk about the things he's talking about. those are dangerous things to let loose out of the american psyche. they're dark. >> republicans might be starting to do some weird stuff to get attention away. let me play a new ad from senator rand paul perry. >> hey, i'm rand paul. and i'm trying to kill the tax code all 70,000 pages of it.
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[ playing jimi hendrix' version of "the star-spangled banner" ] >> what is he doing here perry? >> he's trying to -- you know he was complaining today that the media only covers donald trump. donald trump's getting a million dollar of free publicity. he's trying to change the narrative. rand paul started off this race as being one of the most prominent candidates. now he's being ignored, he's down in the polls. he's trying to get more attention. i don't think this is going to work because i just don't think that -- it's hard competing against donald trump because donald trump is not really on the level. he doesn't really have any issues to talk about. he doesn't have any real proposals. so i don't think you compete with that in terms of attention. that's what they're all trying to do. jamal's right, they're trying to punch up. i think that is smart because trump is ahead in these national polls, but ultimately i think
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the best thing they can do is look at what jeb bush is doing where he's taken the aggressively non-trump positions and trying to -- look at ted cruz. he's trying to sort of be a mini trump. that's probably not smart. jeb bush is saying i disagree with everything trump is saying. the growth in latino vote means the republican party has to be very opposed to trump. jeb bush is being the smartest in terms of getting out front and saying trump is not in my party. >> and you know rev, we've seen stuff like this before. we've seen people actually shoot guns through bills in tv ads or joni ernst talked about castrating pigs in her ad. >> thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks reverend. coming up the sandra bland death investigation. what happened during her arrest? for the first time we're hearing what the officer says as we wait for a dash cam video that could
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any moment now we expect officials in texas to release dash cam video showing the arrest of a woman who was found hanging in her jail cell. the medical examiner ruled sandra bland's death a suicide. after a state trooper pulled her over for not using a turn signal and arrested her for assault a public servant. new tonight, the trooper report gives his description of the arrest quote, bland became combative and uncooperative. numerous commands were given to
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bland ordering her to exit the vehicle. bland was removed from the car but became more combative. bland was placed in handcuffs for officer safety. bland began swinging her elbows at me and then kicked my right leg in the shin. i had a pain in my right leg and suffered small cuts on my right hand. sandra bland's family attorney has seen the dash cam video. we're waiting for. showing that same arrest. here's how he described the video to me last night. >> and then the officer opens up her door and commences to try and order her out of the car. she then because he opens her door reaches for her phone so that she can record the incident. and then he steps back pulls his taser. she then voluntarily cooperates and gets out of the car, and then walks back behind the car
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where she's ordered to put her phone down. >> the texas department of public safety put an employee on desk duty after bland's traffic -- after bland's traffic stop saying it found, quote, violations of the department's procedures regarding traffic stops and the department's courtesy policy. joining me now is legal analyst ariva martin and former new york police officer and director of black law enforcement alliance mark claxton. thank you both for being here. >> thanks rev. >> thank you, rev. >> mark from the description in that arrest report what could lead to a trooper being put on desk duty? >> to be honest with you, there's so much missing out of the narrative that it really poses more questions than answers. what were these circumstances that established whatever understanding of probable cause
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that this individual police officer have? what was the reason for instead of issuing a violation, a summons for a violation of law, did the police officer demand or require that ms. bland leave the vehicle? what were the circumstances? what led you to these charges in addition? there's so much open in that narrative that's of no value or little value. much more indicative of where they're going or what some of the problems or complications they're having or the statements made by the prosecutors as opposed to this police officer's own narrative. >> bland's family attorney says she reached for her phone after being pulled over and investigators are looking through the phone's data. how could that data be used here? >> oh that data is critically important because what happened with respect to that traffic stop is likely to be recorded on their phone if she had an opportunity to start the recording because we're hearing, rev, that after she exited the car, she and the officer went to
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the back of the vehicle and that the dash cam itself does not record anything that happened behind the car. and i just want to amplify what mark said. it's very troubling as an attorney that works on civil rights cases, that talks about this stuff on national television, to hear that she was ordered out of her car. there doesn't appear to be any probable cause or any reasonable suspicion that would have required this officer to ask her to exit the car for what we now know is this very minor traffic violation. how come she wasn't given a ticket or a warning and told to go about her business i think is the biggest question yet to be answered by the officer or that sheriff's department. >> and talking about answers, to add there's a lot of confusion today about opposing comments between the sheriff and the district attorney in the same press conference. i mean they made these conflicting statements and
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opposing comments in the same conference. listen to this. >> the preliminary information received from the harris county medical examiner's office indicates that miss bland passed away while alone in her cell as a result of self-inflicted asphyxiation. the harris county medical examiner's office listed the manner of death as suicide. >> but it's very much too early to make any kind of determination that this was a suicide or a murder. this is being treated like a murder investigation. >> listed as a suicide, mark but being investigated and treated like a murder investigation. what's your take on that? >> my take on that is that there is, of course some additional evidence that needs to be collected or obtained and that the prosecutor's office is covering all bases at this point and trying to find the evidence that leads to this conclusion of a suicide, self-infliction of death.
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and i think the, of course in typical law enforcement or police fashion you have the police officers department of public safety circling the wagons and trying to make this into a neat package that could somehow justify what happened or give an explanation what people believe or buy into. it really is further indication of the lack of national standards in law enforcement across the nation. and this is where it plays out in these tragic situations. >> areva, nbc's kprc affiliate put together a timeline of bland's final hours. using video from the jail. now, look at this. >> the video starts just before 6:00 a.m. over 40 minutes we see officers conduct two checks in one attempting to serve her breakfast which she refused. a male officer checks on her for a third time. the officer talks with bland and she tells him, quote, i am good.
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at 7:55 the jail says bland used a cell intercom about making a phone call. there isn't another check on her until 8:55 a.m. a violation of state jail standards. when a female officer walked down the hallway towards bland's cell look in the window and then run for help. >> areva, what stands out to you in this timeline and this video? >> well what's really critically missing is what happened during that time period where someone in that jail should have been checking on sandra bland and apparently they did not. we're hearing that there was some kind of sensor with respect to the videotaping, so if someone wasn't walking in the hall maybe the video wasn't on. but there's questions about whether the videotape has been tampered with and whether it's accurately recording what happened in that jail cell. i'm glad to hear that the fbi is involved. there's been a call for an investigation from loretta
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lynch's office at the u.s. justice department. to make sure -- because the trust is so broken in the african-american community with respect to the police around this country, so to make sure that independent investigators are looking at every piece of evidence in this case including dna on this trash bag that we're being told she used to hang herself. that's very important, rev. >> a lot of open questions. we'll definitely be staying on that case. areva martin and marq claxton, thank you for your time tonight. hillary clinton hits back at mitch mcconnell for his crack about her playing the gender card. and how easy could it be for hackers to take control of your car? a new report is tackling that question. >> we're killing the engine right now.
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i made $213 million. on "the apprentice" can you imagine they paid me 213 million. when i give up "the apprentice" to run to help you people straighten out this mess. >> donald trump today telling the crowd he's helping them. but there's one person he's helping who wasn't in that crowd. hillary clinton. the "times" reports clinton is using trump against his own
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party. quote, there's one candidate who hopes mr. trump continues to thrive hillary rodham clinton. >> donald trump, finally a candidate whose hair gets more attention than mine. but there's nothing funny about the hate he is spewing at immigrants and their families and now the insults he's directed at a genuine war hero senator john mccain. it's shameful and so is the fact that it took so long for most of his fellow republican candidates to start standing up to him. >> clinton wants trump to thrive, and so far there's no signs he's getting out. even if it means as a third party candidate. it's bringing back shades of 1992 when ross perot ran as an
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independent taking votes from george bush and boosting bill clinton. could it happen again? >> respectfully we remember the 1992 election ross perot cost us that election. >> right. >> would you go on record today as saying that if you can't get the republican nomination you will not run as a third party candidate? >> no. no. no. i won't go on record as saying that. people want jobs. no politician is going to get this country back. >> and here's what the impact would be. the new "washington post" poll shows hillary clinton would beat jeb bush by six points head-to-head. but look what happens if trump runs as an independent. trump gets 20% and jeb bush falls to 30%. 16 points behind clinton. so what happens now? what is the strategy for republicans who are frankly fed up with the trump show? joining me now are angela rye
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and bill press. thank you both for being here. >> hi reverend al. >> thank you rev. >> angela let's start with that poll. if trump runs as an independent he would steal a ton of support from jeb bush. what's your take on this? >> the first take i have rev, is that poll is a little scary to me. there's also a 4% drop-off for hillary clinton. i assume that would be the white blue collar male workers that are causing that drop-off. but i also want to point out, listen he is our early christmas gift. you know donald trump is out here saying these things that are not new, right? we've heard from him since president obama was running and he's the reason why there's a birther movement in so many ways. he's the guy that asked for president obama's transcripts even though this guy, as a black man, is still one of the smartest in the room regardless of race. so i just think it's really interesting that he would have such tremendous base of support even as an independent. one thing that's different about
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donald trump running in 2016 versus a ross perot candidate in 1992 is you have a lot of folks that now identify as independent because they don't want to be affiliated or beholden to either party. so it's a really interesting poll, rev. >> bill what's your take on donald trump running as an independent? >> first of all, i have to tell you my take on donald trump is general is i have three words, reverend al thank you, jesus. as a talk show host and as a democrat, i've never had more fun in my life and watching him just mow down all the rest of the republican candidates. but let me tell you, if these other republicans running, if they think they've got a nightmare now on their hands and reince priebus thinks that having donald trump in the primary is a nightmare, their biggest nightmare lies ahead if were he to run as an independent. and i got to tell you, what's going to stop him? money is the only thing that could stop anybody from running as an independent or loyalty to the party. he has no loyalty to the party. and he has all the money he
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needs. and if he goes as the third party candidate, no he's not going to win, but he will destroy any chance that any republican will have to beat hillary clinton or whoever is the democratic nominee. and donald trump, he would do it just to get even with these guys who are taking him on now. >> now, angela i mentioned earlier that trump gave out lindsey graham's personal cell phone number. but he went after others too. listen to this. >> lindsey graham says to me please, please whatever you can do you know what's this guy, a beggar? he doesn't seem like a very bright guy. okay? he actually probably seems to me not as bright honestly as rick perry. i think rick perry is probably smarter than lindsey graham but what do i know? i tweeted that rick perry should have to have an iq test before getting on the debate stage. jeb bush i'm not a fan of jeb
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bush, because jeb bush is in favor of common core and he's weak on immigration. those are two big things. >> the ap's headline is, quote, trump's self-paid presidential run means he's not going away. point you just made. and a pub poster says nobody leaves a race because they get tired or because they don't think they have the votes. they leave the race because they run out of money. donald trump will never run out of money and that makes him incredibly powerful. is that the wild card here? i mean you said that bill, but trump doesn't have to play by the typical rules. so is that the catch 22 they're in trying to confront him but at the same time trying to appease him into not running independent? >> well i heard you earlier, you know with jamal and perry bacon, yeah republicans don't know how to handle trump. they don't know how to approach him right now. they can't ignore him for sure
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because he's getting all the media attention. some are trying to punch up by attacking him. like lindsey graham. but i'll tell you the scenario that i see. trump is in here to stay. he's going to go through iowa and new hampshire. the only way i see his getting out of the republican primary is if he's just rejected by the voters in those states which doesn't look like it's going to happen. and if that happens, if that were to happen then i think donald trump goes around spends another billion. what's that to him? and runs as an independent candidate and, as i say, that's when he just destroys a party. one other quick thing, reverend al. listen to him take on all the other republican candidates, that's why if i were one of them, i'd not want to be in that first debate with donald trump because nobody will be left standing at the end of that debate. he will take on every one of them. >> you know let's get back for a minute to ms. clinton, angela because we're hearing her go after trump. and let me play what she said
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last week. >> it's shameful and no one should stand for it. so i have just one word for mr. trump. basta, enough! to all the other republicans running for president, why did it take weeks for most of you to speak out. the sad truth is that even if some of the other candidates now condemn those words, if you look at many of their policies it's hard to tell the difference. >> angela is that the clinton strategy, to make the gop own trump? >> i hope that it's not just the clinton strategy and i hope that it is certainly the strategy of all the candidates in the democratic primary right now, rev, that is such an important thing. if they can't get him in control or under control, then that means that he is speaking for
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their base. and we can see that by what the poll numbers are telling us right now. we know that he certainly had a surge in the polls. you know it's to my surprise because i was on this show a few weeks ago saying he's not going to go far at all because i did not think that these folks would be all the way out here on so many different issues. i think now we see that that is in fact the case. so i hope they can continue to support him and that voters with much more sense demonstrate that that is not the policies that they want to stand on as we try to move this country forward. i hope that becomes a strategy of all democratic candidates rev. >> angela rye, bill press, i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you both for your time tonight. straight ahead, is hillary clinton -- straight ahead, president obama defending iran deal and taking on critics making a statement on the last resort for war.
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imagine driving on a busy highway and suddenly the engine shuts off. or your brakes stop working. and it's done by someone sitting miles away behind a computer. it's not science fiction. it's fact. in a startling new report from "wired" magazine a reporter
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went out on the highway as two hackers remotely controlled his jeep. it was sabotaged wirelessly through his entertainment system allowing hackers to control the car's electronics. here's how it started. >> they won't tell me what they had planned, but they assured me it wouldn't be anything life threatening. >> remember, andy no matter what happens, don't panic. >> the tricks started small. >> oh my god. there's a picture of charlie and chris in track suits that just appeared on the dashboard. but as i drove down the interstate things started getting unpleasant and very loud. [ loud music ] can't turn it down. >> but then the hackers showed how much power they really had over his vehicle. >> the air conditioning is
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blasting, the music is blasting and i can't see anything because of the [ bleep ] windshield wiper fluid. >> do it do it. kill the engine. >> so we're killing the engine right now. >> [ bleep ]. actually, i can't accelerate. i stomped on the gas but the jeep slowed to a crawl. it says 45 miles per hour, but i'm not doing that. i turned on my hazard lights but i was still stuck in the right lane with no shoulder to go to. guys i'm stuck. >> i think he's panicking. >> "wired" reports the hackers have shared their findings with car manufacturers and are planning to publish some of their code at a convention next month. they estimate at least 471,000 vehicles are susceptible to these kinds of remote attacks. last week chrysler posted a software update to protect its
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vehicles. and today two senators unveiled a bill that would require cars sold in the u.s. to be protected against digital attacks. joining me now is the reporter who took that wild ride andy greenberg, senior writer at "wired." welcome to the show. >> thanks for having me on. >> first, what was it like to drive a car that someone else was controlling andy? >> i think you could see in the clip that it was pretty terrifying. they blasted the vents and the ac was on high but i was still sweating. and i actually knew that they were going to do some sort of demonstration of their hack on me. i could only imagine if they didn't tell me what they were going to do. but i can only imagine how scary this would have been if you didn't have any forewarning, if hackers were really targeting you, you know, targeting unwitting victim from across the country. >> after the highway, you ended up in a parking lot where the hackers again took control of your car.
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let's watch. >> after that stunt on the highway, they still wanted to show me a couple other tricks. below a certain speed they can control the jeep's steering as long as it's in reverse. pop its locks, mess with the speedometer and, of course disable the brakes. hold on tight, hold on. >> he's not getting out of that. >> in retrospect do you wish you had done the entire experiment in like an isolated location? >> well, as i said i didn't know what these two hackers, charlie miller and chris valosic were going to do. they told me to drive on to the highway. i trusted that it wouldn't be too dangerous. in retrospect, they didn't know, for instance, that there wouldn't be a shoulder on the highway. so i think all of us would have chosen to do this on a closed course if we'd known how dangerous it might have turned out to be. nobody got hurt. what it does show is just how risky this vulnerability is. this is something chrysler really needs to fix or people will have the same experience as
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i did, which was not pleasant. >> scary. you know we reached out to chrysler's parent company about the story, and they said quote, under no circumstances does fca condone or believe it's appropriate to disclose how-to information that would potentially encourage or help enable hackers to gain unauthorized and unlawful access to vehicle systems. similar to a smartphone or tablet vehicle software can require updates for improved security. what's your response to that? >> i think what they're saying when they say we don't want anybody to release a how-to they're referring to the fact that these two researchers plan to release some of their code at this conference next month, but that's important in a way. because that's how other researchers can prove that this vulnerability is real. it's good science to be able to replicate those results. it sends a message to the industry, you need to fix these problems. consumers should be aware of the dangers. and we need to put pressure on the car companies just as we do
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with seat belts and air bags to make cars safe from hackers as well. >> big picture, let me cut to the chase. do people need to be concerned about hackers taking control of their cars? >> i think it's something we need to think about for the future. there aren't that many real world hacks of cars that have happened yet. mostly there's been wireless attacks on the locks to steal them. but this is absolutely something that's real. we've wondered if this is kind of an urban legend. i know it's real because i experienced it. watching me sweat, you should take that lesson and apply it to pressure these car companies to protect their vehicles. >> a little frightening. andy greenberg, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. coming up next, breaking news in the sandra bland case. texas officials release the dash cam video of her arrest. and president obama's powerful message on the human toll of war. (glasses clinking)
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breaking news just moments ago the texas department of public safety posted the video of sandra bland's traffic stop to its youtube page. we're going through the 52 minutes of video now to share it with you and we'll talk about it tomorrow with state senator royce west. he spearheaded a meeting today of elected officials and investigators to make sure it's handled in the best way possible. stuff? it's evil. and ladders.
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i close tonight by talking about the cost of war. today president obama spoke to veterans in pittsburgh thanking them for their service and defending his historic deal on iran's nuke program. >> the debate over this deal we're hearing the echoes of some of the same policies and mind-sets that failed us in the past. some of the famed politicians and pundits that are so quick to reject the possibility of a diplomatic solution to iran's nuclear program are the same folks who were so quick to go to war in iraq and said it would take a few months. instead of chest beating, that rejects even the idea of talking to our adversaries which sounds good in sound bites but accomplishes nothing, we're seeing that strong and principled diplomacy can give hope of actually resolving a problem peacefully. instead of rushing into another conflict. >> the commander in chief talking about real solutions to
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the problems that america faces around the world. diplomacy's always the preferred solution and the president went on to say that sending our troops to war should be the last resort. >> i believe that sending our sons and daughters into harm's way must always be a last resort and that before we put their lives on the line we should exhaust every alternative. that's what we owe our troops. that is strength and that is american leadership. >> we owe our troops not to rush into war, but certain voices on the right don't quite agree, and we're hearing some disturbing rhetoric from top presidential contenders in the gop. >> the next president could be called to take aggressive actions including military actions on their very first day in office. i'm going to be prepared to be president on day one. >> a lot of people are just worn out by war. >> well don't vote for me.
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>> it's that simple. >> don't vote for me because i'm telling you what's coming. >> senator ted cruz even went on to claim that the iran deal could lead to tens of millions of americans dying. the real numbers show more than 4,000 americans died in the iraq war and another 2,000 died in afghanistan. those are the real numbers. and the president is trying to avoid more. obviously, i feel that to avoid war and to try and use diplomatic and peaceful means are not only preferred. it showed great leadership. we cannot ever see war as anything but a last resort. my feeling is those that want to rush to war, we ought not consider rushing to the white house. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton.
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"hardball" starts right now. i'll fight any man in the house for a dollar. so who is going to take on donald trump? let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. well it's clown car tuesday with the king of the clown car now leading the parade. donald trump is now soaring in the republican polls, well above jeb bush and all the others. the only question who's going to take him on? which republican is going to risk a face-off with the guy and challenge with it the old rule of never get into a peeing match with a skunk or in this case donald trump. he pulled his old number of picking a fight with lindsey graham that shows just what happens when you take a jab at the p.t. barnum of american