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. i see rick perry yesterday. he is doing so poorly in the polls. he put glasses on so people think he's smart. it doesn't work. he is so vicious. he used to be a really nice guy. he used to come to me for contributions and support. then he wants to show he's a tough guy with trump. bush said my tone is not nice. my tone. i said tone? we need tone. we need enthusiasm. we need tone. and actually hillary clinton said i don't like his tone. we have people having their heads cut off, christians in the middle east. i see your senator. what a stiff. what a stiff. lindsey graham. by the way, he's registered zero in the polls. zero. then i watch this idiot lindsey graham on television today. he couldn't do what you people did. you are all retired and rich. he wouldn't be rich. he actually, probably seems to

me not as bright honestly as rick perry. i think rick perry is smarter than lindsey graham but what do i know? >> wow. yesterday we wrote a list of all the times he called john mccain -- i was writing this down right before we came on the air. you know i always told my staff, you can fight somebody in politics, but you better only have a one front war. you've got to pick your battles carefully. donald trump went to south carolina where lindsey graham is a very popular republican politician. and he gave out his cell phone, attacked him. he attacked the most important newspaper in iowa "the des

moines register." i don't care how many caucusgoers work at the "des moines register." of course we had john mccain this weekend. "the new york times" has a story about a tough back and forth with rupert murdoch on the front page. rick perry, of course added to the list. jeb bush added to the list. he may ignore the noise. i read a post where he says if he stops the self inflicted wounds, the republican establish db ment can be in big, big trouble. it keeps spiralling deeper and dealer here. more and more battle. >> not sure the polls are showing them to be self-inflicted wounds. mike barnicle is here.

sam stein at the table. anyone in washington alex? all right. so let's go. i can borrow your glasses, jonathan? i want to look smarter. >> you won't be able to see. >> all right. it won't work for me will it? as we saw, donald trump went to south carolina yesterday and he didn't hold back. not at all. trump went hard after the state senior senator and fellow republican presidential candidate lindsey graham for these comments the senator made yesterday. >> stop being a jack ass. you don't have to run for president and be the world's biggest jack ass. >> i see your senator. what a stiff. lindsey graham. today i got called a jack ass by this guy. then i said to myself didn't this guy call me like four years ago, yes? he called me four years ago. lindsey graham. dinlt know who he was. mr. trump this is senator lindsey graham i wonder if it would be possible for you to call fox. he wanted to know whether or not

i could give him a good reference on ""fox & friends."" he wanted to know if i could do that and then he wanted to know if i could see him for a campaign contribution. he gave me his number. let's try it. 202 [ beep ] i don't know maybe it's three, four years ago. so maybe it's an old number. 202 [ beep ] >> the phone number was, in fact senator graham's private cell phone which he gave out. graham tweeted probably getting a new phone. iphone or android? this is not the first time trump has published the private number of someone he was feuding with. last month he published univision anchor's number after they announced he was severing ties.

so it's just, i don't know if it's just below the belt but it's just over the line all the time. i think your point about fight a war on one front might be a good one. this is taking on a lot of enemies. >> pick your battles. yeah, pick your battles. i'm baffled how you wake up one day and you're doubling just about everybody else in the polls and, willie the next day you're going out of your way to pick one fight after another. obviously it's not in his makeup to do that. >> i think as the numbers go up he feels more and more bullet proof which he feels already. i think it's time for everyone to stop being shocked when he does things like this when he says things like he's been saying over the last few days.

this is who he is. he's a giant middle finger to the political process. he is. to the political process. by the way, that's why a lot of people like him. he doesn't play by established rules in politics. and we actually have a poll how much donald trump's comments about john mccain's war service have hurt him. the new national poll says not a lot. trump leads with 22 points. this is a new poll from the morning consult. we had one yesterday from the "washington post" that had him at 23%. jeb bush is at 15 scott walker at 12. the poll conducted saturday through monday when republicans were pounding trump for saying john mccain was not a war hero. jonathan there was some question from "the washington post" poll about the last day of polling on sunday. they said his numbers dropped a great deal after the mccain comments. now this is a poll that is taken through that time that shows him right about at the same level, 22, 23%. >> yeah. shows that the lounge act is working. yesterday reverend sharpton came

to the "washington post" and met with us. i asked him about like you're a new yorker you know donald trump. give us your assessment of what is happening. he said the first time he went to vegas james browned said there is a difference between the lounge act and the acts that play in the main room. he said when you're in the lounge you're competing with the bars and the barmaids and slot machines and the people gambling. you do whatever can you to get attention. but when you're in the main room, they pay to see a show. you have to be ready. you have to have choreography and polish. when you get on the main stage, reverend, whatever you did to get out of the lounge don't do that on the main stage. and it's a brilliant analogy. and so i said reverend our poll says 62% of the people like the lounge act. he said yeah people like the lounge act when you're sitting around drinking a beer and talking. but when you decide that you want to go up and get the wives, the wives want to go to the main

room. and so you go -- >> he'll be in the main room at the debates. >> you get dressed up and get your tickets and go. >> given the fact there are different waives looking at this and this approach seems to be destructive but then polls aren't backing up that sam stein, the huffington post made a decision last week to put donald trump coverage in its entertainment section. so what is the reason behind that? clearly, he made some -- he is insulted your boss several time s that what this is about? >> it's not personal. >> what is it? >> it's because he's a lounge act. >> he's not a candidate? >> he's a candidate in the fact that he filed paperwork. but this is a campaign that is basically sustained by media attention. >> has "huffington post" ever do that? did you do that with her man cane? >> no we made an editorial judgment in this case that

donald trump is a candidate -- >> what about sarah palin? >> let me talk about trump. he is sustained by media attention, right? this is essentially a campaign that would not exist, would not be at this stage in the polls if it weren't for the fact that we're ten minutes into this morning -- >> that's just not true. that's just not even close to being true. >> a study came out that 30% of "nightly news" coverage over the past month of all the candidates has been devoted to donald trump. >> do you know why that is sam? >> jonathan called him a lounge act. i think we're making a judgment that we need to treat him as a lounge act that he is. you can still get any trump news you want on our website. we're not saying we're not going to cover him. but we're also not passive observers in this process. >> that is absolutely absurd to suggest that donald trump -- that's -- that is absurd and we

started this program talking about how this might be unsustainable. but donald trump is being covered by the news because donald trump is in first place in the polls. donald trump has been around in the public as long as i think you probably have been alive. he has been a public figure for 30 years. he is a billionaire. he's had a top show. we can go down the list of all the things he has done. the media is not creating donald trump. if the media tried to create anybody, it tried to create john huntsman and the crowds didn't follow. john huntsman was their type of republican. donald trump is not the media's type of republican or democrat or independent or whatever he is. i just don't know how you say that -- force. >> it is sustaining donald trump. i think he knows the media is sustaining him which is why he goes out and called mccain not a war hero why he gives cell

phone numbers out. this is someone who very clearly recognizes -- and probably strategically brilliant to do this that in this crowded primary field, it makes sense to constantly be on the headline. that's my theory. >> mike barnicle are people in new hampshire going out to see donald trump and south carolina going out to see donald trump because of the "nightly news" and what they're reporting or are they going out because they're angry? they're genuinely angry? and all these things that actually are off putdting to us actually for some reason speaks to a very angry electorate. >> the electorate is angry, joe. but the people in new hampshire and south carolina i would submit, aren't being prompted by the "nightly news" to go out and see donald trump. but they are being encouraged to go see donald trump because he is a side show. they know he is never, ever ever going to be president of the united states. but they might get a few chuckles in the middle of a hot

summer. >> how many italians do you think said that about berl berlusconi? and i'm not carrying donald trump's water here. i'm flabbergasted he keeps attacking people. how many italians said that about berlusconi? >> i don't know. i don't speak italian. to sam's point, we played a clip of the united states senator lindsey graham the sitting united states senator, it was about a 15 second clip. we've been talking about donald trump now and showing donald trump now for 12 minutes. we're about to have a story about the sitting governor of ohio, john kasich running for president. you can't win as a republican for president unless you carry the state of ohio. i think the kasich story might make 45 seconds or a minute? trump is on overload. >> all right. so hold on. let's put up the poll that willie put up this morning from donald -- about donald trump not

being damaged. donald trump is at 22%. i don't see john kasich there. i think news coverage mika follows people who are in first place. we haven't heard about ben carson in a while. if ben carson were at 22% right now, we would be talking this morning about ben carson. same with mike huckabee. if rubio were we would be talking about that as well. >> i think this is a fascinating conversation. we have to come back to it, sam, especially in terms of the "huffington post" decision i don't see trump being covered only in the style section. i'm not sure about the decision. you say the media sustains donald trump. many argue that media sustained candidate barack obama. >> huge difference. >> huge difference? wait a minute. that's great. that's great. and that's by the way not your job. and not your job. >> i just want to make one quick

distinction. we're not saying the issues he raises are not political decisions. this talk about immigration he raised is a political conversation. and when immigration reform activists go after trump because they feel he's gone too far on that issue that, is substantive. but when the stuff coming out of trump's mouth is pure visit ree ol and when he's giving out cell phone numbers, we are made an editorial decision that that's not politics. it is political entertainment. >> why didn't do you that to sarah palin? >> she was proschosen as the vice presidential nominee. there is nothing -- there is no editorial choice at that point. >> okay. it seems sort of similar. ohio governor john kasich launched his second shot at the white house before a hometown crowd. he delivered his entire speech without a teleprompter nearly 45 minutes in front of a crowd of about 4,000 people.

kasich is polling low in single digits but he says his record in the key swing state shows a history of defying the odds and his speech suggests he will focus on compassionate conservatism. >> if you're drug addicted we're going to try to rehab you and get you on your feet. if you're mentally ill, prison is no place for you. some treatment and some help is where you need to be. yurt you're the working poor? we're going to give you an opportunity to take a pay raise and not bang you over the head because you're trying to get ahead. we're changing that system. if you have an autistic son or daughter, for most of them they can get insurance and we'll work to make sure all of them have it. for the develop.mentally disabled, they're made in god's image. they have a right to rise.

they have a right to be successful. >> joining us live from cleveland, ohio msnbc political correspondent kacie hunt. he seems so nice and he seems to make so much sense. how in the world he is going to stand out? >> that's the challenge. i think you heard a little bit of it there. we're not hearing that message from any one of the other 16 candidates in this republican field. i think they're selling him as the person who's out for the little gichlt little guy. it comes across as authentic. break out of the pack and get earned media coverage. it's just so hard especially in light of donald trump. do you think that you're more qualified tore president than donald trump? >> you know i know that i can't build his hotels or build his casinos. i'm not interested in talking about the other people in this.

i'm interested in talking about who i am and what i am and what i hope to do and that's the end of it. >> you can't run the hotels but you think you can run the country. >> i said i can't build the hotels. i'm not that good with hammer and nails, to tell you the truth. >> so john kasich not quite convinced he could actually take the hammer and nails to build donald trump's hotels. we're talking so much about trump here. the question is how long can this really last? can donald trump sustain this for the six months that it's going to take for him to ultimately get to iowa get to new hampshire? i'm not convinced that that's going to happen. i don't think a lot of the other candidates either. one thing i found interesting yesterday is that jeb bush's campaign is really engaging behind the scenes. you saw kasich use the phrase right to rise. that's jeb bush's campaign slogan. i know there are some in the bush camp who took notice. john kasich is somebody despite his low standing in poll and difficulty breaking out, major campaigns are paying attention to as someone that has the

potential to break into the top tier. >> thank you very much. joe that, is the question. how to stand out and how to deal with the trump factor. >> well that, sort of speech helps you stand out. and what an arc for john kasich being the guy in 1995 that actually worked and had to twist arms and had to persuade and had to do everything he could do to be the first budget chairman to balance a budget in a generation. he did that. he did it four years in a row for the first time since the 1920s. and to do that he had to make a lot of tough decisions. he had to make a lot of cuts. he had to do a lot of really unpopular things. but there was always a sense of optimism about john kasich. the attacks against newt gingrich and dick army and tom delay never latched on to the budget chairman. i think that's because john kasich was an eternal optimist.

his numbers collapsed after a couple years in ohio. he turned it around. he's done a really remarkable job. and that sort of talk that compassion -- that is compassionate conservatism. something that makes a lot of people in the base flinch because george w. bush blew a hole in the deficit. but that will help you stand out in 2016 and kasich is a very capable, able guy whether he can, you know whether he's good at building hotels or not. and i think that the bush people probably are more concerned about him in the long run than trump. >> we're about 15 days away now from the first republican debate and less than 1 1/2 points separates five candidates on the bubble of making the debate stage. including kasich. only the top ten in recent national polls get to participate which is really a tough way of doing this. currently new jersey governor

chris christie and rick perry make the cut. but they are closely followed by former senator rick santorum and john kasich. both less than one point away from making the stage. >> you have if this holds the guy that won the last iowa caucus the sitting governor of ohio, the sitting governor of louisiana and the only female running for republican nominee not on the debate stage. >> how does that work? >> the alt earn though is to have 16 people on a stage. >> they have to do the hollywood square style. build a massive stage, four by four. >> debates are unwieldy enough. even ten is difficult. i think fox is in a tough spot here. but carly fiorina deserves a voice in this. >> it's going to be in his home state. he may not be on the debate stage. >> is this like the jerry lewis tele-on this two hours long? >> we'll be in cleveland live

the morning of and the morning after. pack your bags. we're going to cleveland. still ahead on "morning joe," a handful of convictions are turned over against rob blagojevich. so does he get owl of jail earlier? plus, new york city mayor bill diblasio heads overseas to italy and is more than an hour late to a speech at the vatican. what? we'll talk diblasio time ahead on "morning joe."

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let's take a look at the morning papers. a family of rob blagojevich are disappointed he won't be set free any time soon. they were hoepgs for an early release after a an appeals court threw out five of the 18 convictions against him. they ruled he did not break the law when he offered to appoint obama aide valerie jarrett to the president's old senate seat

in exchange for a cabinet position. the judge in the case says this type of exchange is common in politics. blagojevich is currently in year three of his 14-year sentence. he will be resentenced but for now has been ordered to remain in prison. joe? >> willie geist? >> yes, sir? >> you know -- >> no. that is kind of sad. >> no. no. >> joe is right. >> hey. hey. you're all out of order. okay? you're all out of order. a littleal pacino there in the morning. willie geist, you called him gandy. you called him mandela. maybe that was me. doesn't this prove what we've been saying all along. >> he called himself those things in a famous interview with the "today" show. he compared him toeflself to begangandhi

and mandela. 14 years in prison is ridiculous ridiculous. >> it really s. >> very sad. >> it is absurd. >> moving on "usa today," the department of justice dropped the criminal case against barry bonds after a nearly decade long steroids related investigation. a jury convicted baseball's career home run leader in 2011 of obstruction of justice after he gave a meandering response to a grand jury's questions about injections. that ruling was overturned by an appeals court in april and federal prosecutors announced yesterday that the reversal of bonds' conviction would stand. bonds has never failed a performance enhancing drug test. he released a statement after the decision saying in part "the fine alt of today's decision gives me great peace." joe? >> well mike barnicle he's never failed a test.

yet, his cranium is size of rhode island. >> yeah. >> i mean everything on this man has enlarged like -- but anyway, mike what do you make of this decision? >> well you know i mean he's cleared in the obstruction of justice charge. unfortunately for barry bonds, and baseball in a sense, he is not going to get into the hall of fame any time soon because the baseball writers association of america, they are the judge and jury and who gets in the hall of fame and the vast majority of them are not going to vote for barry bonds or anyone else connected to steroids for the hall of fame. it's not going to happen. >> the shame of it is without steroids -- >> he's in the hall of fame. >> he's one of best players ever. >> he's remarkably skinny now that he's out of baseball. >> yes. he leaned out. >> must be a special diet. >> from "the new york times," how about this one? bill diblasio spent tuesday in rome speaking at the vatican

praising the pope for his approach on climate change and income inequality. not everything on the chip went according to plan. mayor diblasio arrived for the speech 80 minutes late. his flight was set to land two hours before his slot but according to american airlines it was diverted to another airport because of heavy fog. >> guys. this was teased wrong. >> falsitiesing.e advertising. >> this is like putting trump in the entertainment section. >> while in rome he met with paris' mayor. taxi drivers in paris block major transit hubs and protested uber last month. they say uberpop has to be seized. last month company executives were detained there. mayor diblasio is locked of course in, a bitter fight with uber here in new york. now some top city leaders opposing the plan to cap the number of new for hire vehicles that can go out on the road. and ub are flooded the airwaves

with ads saying if the number of cars is curtailed, it will negatively impact underserved minority neighborhoods. the mayor's office points to a promotion from uber last year guaranteeing $5,000 in fares a month to drivers saying they must focus on the busiest areas including manhattan and wealthier parts of brooklyn. the fight continues between the mayor and uber. >> i'm curious. you said that diblasio being 80 minutes to the vatican is top of do about nothing. if you were giving a speech to the vatican, you would schedule it mika to land in rome an hour or two before your scheduled speech at the vatican? >> no. but i don't think that was -- i mean i don't know. i don't work there. but it seems like his schedulers really screwed up. it doesn't seem like diblasio and mother nature didn't help. >> landing two hours before we don't know what he had going on before that.

who knows. >> i definitely would have come in the night before. >> yeah that's the night before. >> rome a week before. >> it's rome! >> well definitely. >> you're speaking before the vatican and you don't schedule it to be there an hour or two beforehand. nobody does that. we don't do that for des moines. >> yeah. yeah. i agree with that. >> all right. we're back on to hating diblasio again. >> number i think you bring up a good point. it was really really really bad to than late there. but seems like somebody had some scheduling issues and should have made better decisions. >> he usually does. i mean he usually does even if he's going to an outer borough let alone rome. >> he is always late? >> always late. >> he is late to funerals.

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35 past the hour. dhs secretary jay johnson admitted yesterday to using i had personal e-mail account on government computers but said he doesn't believe he took a "appreciable risk by doing so." but after bloomberg revealed monday that johnson and other dhs staffers received exemptions so they could use personal e-mail on the work computers, johnson told michael enthat he suspending the product 'tis. >> at my desktop at work i was vee yacht internet via the internet accessing my personal g mail account so i could see who was sending me g-mail stuff on my personal account not to be confused with the dhs e-mail which i use all the time.

and there are -- i received a waiver from our chief information officer to do that pursuant to the rules. but there are some security risks that have been raised concerning that so i'm suspending that. probably should have done it sooner. when i read the story, i said oops. this is not a good practice. so i should discontinue it. >> johnson went on to say that moving forward he'll just use his iphone to access his g-mail account at work. and joe, michael enjoinske allen joins us. is there a big security risk with that? >> well there is. and we should know by now there is so much conversation about g-mail and e-mail and they get some of the most sensitive information out of home lapped security. i said how much of that big threat that we all covered at the fourth of july how much of it was a real worry and how much of it was media hype? and turns out that there wasn't

as much real worry then as we thought. like he says we just need to worry all the time. but there wasn't something specific about the fourth of july as we were lead to believe at the time. >> so they also have a new article on donald trump's campaign manager. you wondered if he had one, right? >> oh, yeah. >> it reads in part this the man behind dpon ald trump's presidential campaign has a knack for spectacle, an eye toward making money and approving willingness to defy the republican party. in other words, trump campaign manager corey levandowski is a lot like his new boss. levandowski has been advising him since january and drift ago way from the party establishment. so he is being paid a lot of money? what is the deal? >> he is well paid. you get well paid when you work for donald. the point at the end is the key. this is somebody who's been

under the claw of establishment republicans for a long time ever since crazy senator bob smith's brief campaign for president. this is somebody who worked for the rnc and now is very much on the outs. and that's what's important about this. donald trump is not there to build the party or help the party. so he's not susceptible to the pressure that almost everyone else in that field might be. so this manager loves to bug republicans and he's in a place to do it. we've been wondering who is the brains behind donald this is it. >> did you get any sense that corey levandowski can choreograph anything that comes out of his mouth? >> no. so that's why sam's implication is right. who is the donald's campaign manager? the donald. who has the title and who is mapping this out, mapping this very aggressive travel they love to tell us wakes up in the morning and tries to decide which jet, which helicopter he's

going to take. but that's corey levandowxki. >> the campaign manager's job is to build an infrastructure, open offices, hire volunteers and staffers make sure brochures are getting out to voters. is there any actual infrastructure what donald trump is doing or simply going and giving speeches? >> he's not. and he's doing nationwide travel. but that's one of the reasons that he has a manager like this. anybody who ever wants to work in party politics again, the kind of people you need instincts if you were going to build something to be president, that isn't happening. that's why joe and his facebook post yesterday made the point that donald trump needs to -- if he needs to -- if he stops making unforced errors he has the opportunity to build something. but it's not being done now. >> yeah. >> all right.

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from women. you and you they pointed. they realized what isis is doing, survivors told me later, dividing the young and healthy from the older and weak. one of them placed a final call to the family before the fighter's confiscated his phone. let me talk to everybody, he wept. i don't think they're going to let me go. and it was the last time they heard from him. they are -- go ahead, joe. >> i was going to say, thank you so much for being us with. you talked about how persecution of christians across the middle east is being ignored. why is that? >> it's a complicated issue. you know this is really a problem that began after the u.s. invasion in 2002 33. we've been looking at a million and a half christians in iraq alone dropped to a few hundred thousand. it began with the bush administration. the two reasons that make it difficult to deal with are, one, falling into the trap of looking like crusaders. playing into the hands of isis

and its elk, looking like they want us to. the other is this issue has long been the providence of the christian right and has been misused in the past. i think for the obama administration, it's hard to take on the language without the politics. >> i don't understand though. you know, we had similar issues back in the 1990s when hundreds of thousands of christians were being executed crucified, sold into slavery in sudan. it seemed that for some reason the human rights groups did not pay attention to that because they were christians. abe rosenthal, of course legendary of "the new york times" got out on front of christian persecution in sudan. i'm curious why is it with international aid groups that persecution, the execution, the crucifixion of christians seems to take a backseat to other groups. >> okay. so in sudan the situation was a little bit different.

there we saw the beginning of a human rights lobby that was both the left -- both the left human rights lopy and the christian right. we saw this alliance again in darfur as well as the black caucus. that was a very important, very unusual situation. one of the things that makes that not happen in the middle east with eastern christians is that eastern christians tend to support palestine over israel. and that makes it difficult for the christian right to take on the issue of persecution of eastern christians. >> before we invaded iraq when syria was more stable when iraq was more stable, when egypt was certainly more stable were christians afforded more protection under saddam hussein, assad, and mubarak? >> that's absolutely right. the arab spring has made things worse for christians in the middle east. >> how? why? >> well, because essentially 100 years ago the eastern christians

many of them died in the genocide in, the army and genocide. although that genocide was about nationalism, not religion it led to the death of about three million christians. many of them fled to the support over the past few decades to the strong men, these military strong men and brutal dictators who in an effort to shore up their own power collected minorities. we see this with assad and the community, obviously. and it's very dangerous in syria and it's made them -- it's made them seem like collaborators more than they actually are. >> so if the protections are gone, who is left to protect christians in the middle east? who is going to take care of these people? >> no one. and that's really what we're seeing. it's a community without a supporter, without a backer. and it's an uncomfortable one. >> is there something the obama administration and the united states of smeshg considering doing or should be considering doing? >> there is some legislation and

some support for a safe haven in the plain. so, you know as we see iraq fracture, there could be a place for not just christians but christians and other minorities. this is happening to all minorities. it's happening to a large number of other groups and other small minorities in iraq. if they could have a safe haven and if that -- if they would have the right to protect themselves, be part of a national guard that legislation is on the books in the u.s. it's just a matter of following through. >> eliza griswald thank you so much. we'll be looking for the new issue of "new york times" magazine coming up. come back. thank you very much. on tomorrow's show we'll talk to republican presidential candidate rick santorum. also oscar nominated actor jake gyllenhaal will join us to discuss his new movie "southpaw." we'll be right back.

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ladies and gentlemen, the 44th president of the united states, please welcome back to the program, president barack obama. how are you? what do you got now? you're also senioritis. what you got about a year? >> you know kinlt believe that you're leaving before me. in fact i am issuing a new executive order that jon stewart cannot leave the show. it's being challenged in the courts. >> yes.

there's an ebb and flow to every administration, to every president. it appears that you're feeling it a little bit right now. you got this deal with iran worked out. you got your fast track authority. you are feeling like seven years in whatever? >> i final will he know what i'm doing. >> i'm figuring this thing out. i'm figuring this thing out? >> i guarantee you if people feel strongly about making sure that iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon without us going to war and that is expressed to congress, then people will believe in that. and the same is true on every single issue. >> is that the advice that you then bequeath to future president trump? >> well i'm sure the republicans are enjoying mr. trump's dominance -- >> anything that makes them look less crazy.

sir, thank you so much for stopping by. this is always a pleasure to see you. >> you've been a great gift to the company. >> all right. welcome back to "morning joe." mike barnicle, sam stein, jonathan capehart us with and joining us from washington joe, we have staff writer from ""the weekly standard"" michael warren. good to you have onboard, michael. >> thanks for having me. >> i think we have to start with donald trump. i don't mean to start with the entertainment section of "morning joe." to us it's -- i don't know how you get around it. because it's part of a story. i don't get it. all right. donald trump went to south carolina yesterday and he did not hold back. trump went hard after the state senior senator lindsey graham and pretty much everyone else. >> i see rick perry the other day and he's so -- you know he is doing very poorly in the poll. he put glasses on so people will think he's smart. and it just doesn't work. i see him. he's so vicious.

you know used to be really a nice guy. he used to come to see me for contributions and support. all of a sudden he wants to show he's a tough guy with trump. bush said my tone is not nice. my tone. i said tone? we need tone. we need enthusiasm. we need tone. and actually hillary clinton said i don't like his tone. we have people having their heads cut off, christians in the middle east. i see your senator, what a stiff. what a stiff. lindsey graham, by the way, he registered zero in the polls. then i watch this idiot lindsey graham on television today, he couldn't do what you people did. you're all retired as hell and rich. he wouldn't be rich. he actually probably seems to me not as bright honestly as rick perry. i think rick perry is probably smarter than lindsey graham. but what do i know? i see your senator. what a stiff. what a stiff. lindsey graham. today i got called a jack ass by

this guy. i said to myself hey, didn't this guy call me four years ago? yes. he called me four years ago. lindsey graham. i didn't know who he was. he goes mr. trump this is senator linldcy graham. i wonlder if it would be possible for you to call fox and he wanted to know whether or not i could give him a good reference on fox"fox & friends"." he wanted to know who i do that? of course he wanted to know whether or not he could see me for campaign contributions and he gave me his number. i found the card! i wrote the number down. i don't know if it's the right number. let's try it. 202 [ beep ] i don't know. it's three, four years ago. maybe it's an old number. 202 [ beep ] >> oh, my god. >> yeah. so, you know mika last hour we were talking about this, you know, like i said, lindsey

graham, the des moines register, john mccain, rick perry, jeb bush the list goes on and on and own. the question is is this trump being trump and something that keeps the crowds coming out because he's fighting the establishment? or is he going overboard to such a degree -- if i'm going out to hear somebody that i may support as president of the united states i want to hear how they're going to make my life better. i want to hear how they're going to make the economy better. i want the headline to be their economic program to get america back to work. i want to hear their foreign policy program so we're stronger across the globe. i don't want to hear litany of insults against my sitting senator. that's just political strategy. it's not to hear him even to score, right? >> i wonder how his -- how -- well the polls chafrpgs overnge over the coming weeks if they do at all.

that was entertainment. >> thank you. there is a serious point that we were discussing here which is you know this really does shine light on how donors in the current political system feel completely entitled by this process. donald trump has been hit up for contributions by virtually everyone across the ideological spectrum. because he's rich. if you have people continuously coming to you, begging for money, you begin to think that you're above the people. you're morally superior or politically more clever. what you've seen on the trail with donald trump is every time someone picked a fight with him, he head ah-ha, two years you hit me up for cash and here's your phone number. >> fascinating why that is not entertainment. joe? >> the question is is this just entertainment? what is the end game here? yeah donald is going up in the polls. at the same time though, he was going up in the polls when he

actually wasn't spending most of his stump speech attacking individuals in the race. i don't know. you said this is donald being donald. it's not going to change. are you surprised, though at the shift when he gets in first place that he gets even more bombasted? >> no. i think he thinks the reason he is in first place is because he's being himself. because he is providing some alternative to the establishment that people have been living with and now frustrated with for decades and generations. what mike said earlier, i think there is a lot of truth in it. for this moment it is entertaining to watch. he is succeeding. i don't think are enough people that believe he'll get far enough down the road that he has to get real scrutiny yet and look at his policy proposals. for now, it's a show. it's a show for the moment that is working for donald trump. zbh and >> and, joe, on the eve of this first republican debate, there are candidates like christie, rand paul, ted cruz marco

rubio. donald trump has virtually cleared the field between them and the top of the house. he and jeb bush. it's going to be incredibly frustrating. >> mike it's a great point, mike. we were talking about how this was a 15 16 person race. since donald trump picked up 10 11, 12 points it's a three person race. you look at every single poll. marco is not there. rand is not there. chris christie is not there. of course, case sick not -- kasich is not there. it is trump, bush and walker. and you're right, it's going to be extraordinarily frustrating for them. >> new polls of the general electorate in three swing states out this morning. donald trump unpopular in all of them. trump has negative ratings of 2-1 in iowa virginia and colorado. but there's more to it than that. because former secretary of state hillary clinton's numbers in those same states are not much better only in virginia are her approval ratings

significantly higher than trump's. >> wow. wait. wait. that's among the general electorate? hillary clinton is up side down by 23 points in iowa? >> i think we kind of missed a lead here. >> hillary is up side down by 23 in iowa? she's up side down by nine in virginia which she has to win. she's up side down by 23 in colorado. and, mika i think we just -- in that one snapshot has shown -- i'm sure jeb bush's isn't much better -- why somebody out of -- i was going to say left field. he's not left field or right field. why somebody like donald trump attacking politicians is actually getting support. those numbers -- i think you're right. i think we did bury the lead. everybody is saying that

hillary -- that donald trump is never going to get the nomination and everybody thinks hillary clinton is going to get the nomination put those numbers up again. >> put them up again. >> those numbers -- >> jonathan, i have the latest polls head-to-head. >> "the washington post" poll yesterday showed -- >> let's bring in chuck todd as well. >> the "washington post" poll showed 62% those surveyed said they would never vote for donald trump for president. >> okay. but the point here is -- jonathan -- >> we're talking about the unfavorable numbers. >> but the story is about hillary. i mean that's what we're a little bit -- chuck todd is us with as well. >> and, mika so yes. let us assume that everybody around the table is right. that all of our guest this is morning are right and that donald trump is never going to be relevant. let's assume. that it doesn't matter what people say about donald trump. what matters is you look at these polls.

if everybody around the table says hillary is the democratic nominee, what chuck todd if chuck is there, chuck, what does the democratic party do about numbers like this in iowa virginia and other important swing states colorado for god's sake? >> i was having this conversation with our own staff yesterday. fit wasn't for donald trump, the biggest story of the summer would be hillary clinton's problems solidifying herself inside the democratic party. >> really? >> it would be the bernie sanders boom. it would be this issue of you know, what we're seeing here i think, is both parties are seeing the populous base flex its muscles in different ways. i kind of think we need to move on from trump the personality and focus more on the people attracted to trump. that is an important storyeystory. >> would are these people? >> it is people i felt marginalized by a lot of thins,

joe. they felt marginalized by the kmaen the political establishment. they felt marginalized by the media. when we marginalize donald trump trump, they sit there and say, yeah, just like me. in an odd way, it helps. going back to hillary clinton, look, this also fits another pattern of hers. whenever she's been out front as the face of the democratic party, her numbers are gone down. they always have. whenever they is the focal point. >> why is that chuck? >> well you could just simply say she doesn't wear well. you know when she was number -- when bill clinton was the face and she would see her numbers go up as sort of a supportive spouse or a victim. when barack obama was president and she was secretary of state, she was praised and viewed nicely by the public as sort of an operator that didn't embarrass the country, you know as secretary of state and, you know stayed above the fray.

whenever she has been front and center candidate in '07, barack obama surpasses her. here she is again. >> let's look at those three critical swing states. clinton loses across the board to wisconsin governor scott walker, florida senator marco rubio and former governor jeb bush. clinton performs worse -- >> what's happened? mika what happened in this short period of time? what's happened? >> i'm not done. clinton performs worst in iowa and colorado where she is down by sizable margins. scott walk certificate best. and in virginia clinton keeps the margins closer but is still trailing. shockingly the poll finds bernie sanders performing nearly as well as clinton and even better against jeb bush and n.in iowa and colorado.

to chuck's point, joe. >> what i've always told people that if falling up on a david brooks column i saw a couple months where they said the presidential races are going to go democratic because of demographics. he wrote a great article and says it's a tossup. then i start looking at the electoral college. chuck, i say if you consider mitt rom it in low point of the republican party take all the states that mitt romney won. put those in the republican camp. republicans are going to win those after eight years of a democratic president. and then you just add florida, virginia and ohio and suddenly you have republicans three lekt electoral votes. it's democratic strategists have to be looking at these numbers and i guess you're right, thanking god for donald trump

right now. >> sichlt >> it is. that is amazing, by the way, that you can carry all the mitt romy states and a republican can carry florida, virginia and still not get to 270. let's think about that a minute. that shows you why there is an electoral college advantage for the democrats simply because of some of those states that have gone five six times in a row. to your point, to your larger point here about colorado and iowa, you know four years ago obama's numbers in colorado and iowa were worse there than in any of the other swing states in the summer before the campaign started. he eventually improved those. now is that barack obama coalition that figured that out? is that mitt romney that lost iowa and lost colorado rather than obama won them? i don't know. but i would just throw that out there as a just a cautionary note that i think colorado and iowa are very unstable swing

states, meaning, i think they're very volatile and could go either way. >> yeah. mike, what do you make of hillary's numbers that we've been showing this morning? >> you know joe, i mean we've been talking about republicans versus democrats with all these numbers, matchups and everything like that. but the estrangement from the process extends beyond party lines. i think hillary clinton's candidacy is a stratresult of that. you ask people today, it wasn't like it was ten, 20 30 years ago you are republican or democrat? i'm neither, i'm pissed they say. at both parties. because people pay enormous amounts of money increasingly so in taxes. they get no bang for their buck. they wonder what government is up to. we've had the polarization in our politics going on now for 10, 15 years. so i think hillary clinton's

numbers are a reflection of two things -- one, this estrangement that people have from the process and again the phrase was used she just simply does' not wear well. it's a real issue. >> warren going backed to the republican field do you feel like donald trump is something more than a vessel for the frustrations that people have? in other words, is this a guy with staying power in this nomination fight? >> possibly. the one thing that nobody mentioned this morning is immigration. i mean that's the thing that really sort of put trump on the map in that first announcement speech and he said all the terrible things about mexicans. but really the meat of it was about immigration. and i think that's what you're seeing there. it's not just dissatisfaction with the party apparatus. it's the fact that party apparatus is trying to move in one direction on immigration and those kind of issues and appeal hispanic

voters. the other he will vantelephant in the room, i don't think he'll get the nomination, but if he runs as a third party candidate, those numbers -- those are marginal numbers that shows hillary looking pretty bad. but if you have a third party candidate, even somebody ralph nader level, that hurts republicans. >> how much of a fear is that? >> i think that's huge. >> i'm sore yishgs willie. >> there was a number in the "washington post" poll yesterday where you f. you separate it out and brought limb in a third party candidate, it was devastating to jeb bush to michael's point. >> oh, yeah. totally. >> look, i think is -- yeah, thooz do withit has to do with immigration and not just dissatisfaction with the party. it's about a specific issue. you can't discuss trump and all this without immigration. >> michael warren thank you very much. chuck todd thank you as well. still ahead on "morning joe,"

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the same pundits so quick to reject a diplomatic solution to iran's nuclear program are the same folks that are so quick to go to war in iraq and said it would take a few months. we know the consequences of that choice and what cost us in blood and treasure. >> that was president obama's speaking yesterday to veterans of foreign wars convention and joining us now former house majority leader eric cantor on the set with us this morning. good to have you onboard, sir. >> mika good to be here.

>> joe? >> eric first of all, how is life after congress? do you miss it? >> life is good. you know it's really nice to be in a world in which results matter and people are driving towards solution. >> mike barnicle says he looks healthy healthier, happier and more profitable. >> a little more relaxed. what can you tell us on the other side of congress that you might have been a little uncomfortable telling us when you were actually sitting member and a leader of the republican party? what about the institution? how broke season congress? >> well, you know i was never one to say let's harkin back to the old days and just get along. i think question look at that history and see that there wasn't always a harmonious air around the capitol. but i think clearly there needs to be a return to some vision and leadership for the country. i think that's what's missing right now. there are opposing parties, obviously, between the hill and

the white house. but i think that that's what has, you know you've been talking about it all morning, all week about the election coming up and i think that the country is really desperate need for an individual that has got a long term vision but, yet, the ability to have the willingness to manage that town and to manage the process so we can effect that vision. >> what do we do or can anything be done with the rhetoric of politics? i'm not talking about any current presidential candidates. i'm talking about within the system in the congress where opposition to this president as well as opposition to george w. bush when he was president, the language verges on contempt. and it's off putting much it's upsetting much it's nonproductive. do you see anything that can be done? >> when i was there, we tried to

have an agenda that was inclusive, not exclusive. and i think the rhetoric piece has a lot to do with that. if you're going to engage in rhetorical debate or in language that is devisive that is mean that, is ugly sure you're going to turn off people. and i think that's largely what's been going on of late with some because they're headline grabbing. the more you do that the more spectacle you become. i think that is not a sustainable model in politics. and -- >> you talking about donald trump? >> listen, i think the language that mr. trump is using, joe, certainly sometimes is mean and ugly and devisive. it is not a sustainable model. ultimately this country and what the people of america are looking for is an optimistic inspirational leader with a message that is inclusive for all. so we can see a better future. >> do you think donald trump is bad for the republican party?

>> i don't think his language is good for the republican party at all, no. i think certainly there is a reflection and some anger. i think people respond to that anger. again, joe, i don't think it's sustainable. i think temperment matters when you talk about electing a president. ultimately that, kind of language which is off putting to a large swath of the population is not something that will elect a president. >> so let's stick with -- no let's not stick with donald trump. on the iran deal the criticism that this administration has is primarily this -- yeah, you might not like the deal. it might not meet your standards. but everything that you think -- you're not putting essentially an alternative on the table. so you're obviously a critic of the deal. what is the alternative to this? >> you know if you step back for a second and look at the harm that this deal will cause, it is probably estimated over the life of the deal over $100

billion of cash going into the coffers of the ayatollahs in tehran to help them in the support of all the destabilizing efforts. >> what is the alternative? >> leadership that could have affected a better deal. there is news out this morning that indicates that there was some side agreements that were negotiated between the iaea and the iranians. those agreements according to the reports, have not been dif divulged. i'm a real skeptic. >> but saying we should have negotiated a better deal is not really an alternative. >> sam, what the deal is going to do though -- it is going to legitimatize iran in the eyes of the world. it will welcome iran back into

the sort of normalized relationships that has been starved of for decades now. i think it's a disaster for peace in the region. i think it's a threat to us and our allies. >> some of the points we can put to john kirby coming up. >> definitely. eric cantor thank you very much. good to have you in the studio. welcome back. >> thank you. good to be here. >> coming up exactly one year since "washington post" reporter jason resign was placed behind bars in iran. up next his brother joins us. has president obama demand that tehran free him and the other americans being held there. we'll be right back.

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the latest with the americans being held there. any developments? >> i potential development this morning. today is the one year anniversary that "washington post" reporter jason was taken in iran. he is still in captivity. i know you have his brother on the show coming up. i interviewed his brother yesterday. so today for that family a terrible milestone, one year in captivity. and on this anniversary, a senior iranian official said today for the first time acknowledged that on the sidelines of the nuclear negotiations that rezaian's case was brought you and that iranian official also suggested that if this nuclear deal is in fact passed and as you know very well that congress still needs to pass this deal and allow this political process to go forward, iranian officials say that if the deal is passed it could pave the way for more

"humanitarian discussions on a case by case basis." now some could suggest that iran is effectively using these americans as bargaining chips saying if you pass the deal then we will go ahead and release them. that is one way of looking at those comments. >> yeah why couldn't they -- if it's going to be a bargaining chip, then make it a deal. now we're joined by ali rezaian. his brother is being held in iran. ali, what have you heard? are there any developments on your family's front and how is your brother doing. >> >> the latest development is my mom has been in iran three weeks. she was able to see jason for the first time yesterday which was nice of them. but other than that -- >> how was he doing? >> you know i think at this point he is really very depressed. he sees this news. he understands the deal has been done. and he knows he's just been sitting there for a year

innocent and has not been given any chance to defend himself and is waiting to move forward. everything about the system is opaque and he knows he's innocent. and, you know if what we're hearing is correct, that's a completely different message from the iranian government than what we heard in the past. >> mr. rezaian, can you give us an update on the communications between your family and the government, the various branches of the government? what you have been told? how often have they been in touch with you? do they keep you updated? do they respond to your questions? how that's that gone? >> typically, i speak with the folks over the state department. i have a contact there. they're very responsive. but, you know as the state department is spoken with the iranian's during the negotiations, you know i know they've been talking. i know that it's been an on going process. i don't get typically the information or the details of that. although sometime they'll tell

us what the iranian's position is which is that jason is you know, he needs to go through a judicial process. there were serious charges against him. but they never said that they're worth any serious evidence against him. only that there was serious charges for the last year. >> can i ask, what was the -- what was your understanding of how this came up during the nuclear negotiations? were you kept aware of what the talks were encompassing and whether your brother's freedom is part of it? and what kind of petition did do you to the negotiators to make that part of the conditions for a deal? >> you know we were certainly informed that whenever the government got together they discussed the folks that had been held and jason specifically. but we also know that it wasn't part of the actual talks that ended in the deal in terms of how many -- you know what kind of end game there was at the

deal that we heard on tv. i that i is a separate process. i know it happened all along. we never got any information specifically about what the ask was or you know how the u.s. was able to respond to that. >> joe? >> so as the family been in contact with the president at all? have you talked to president obama at all or anybody in your family talk to him during the negotiations? >> at one point my mother sent him a letter. i did meet him briefly at the white house correspondents dinner. so we haven't made any additional specific requests to meet with the president. we have been working through this state department as well as working with "the washington post" who obviously has a lot of connections that they've been using to make sure this issue is continued to be raised with the government. >> ali rezaian, thank you. richard engel, thank you. two lawmakers claim there are a pair of secret side deals with iran that congress cannot review, one involves inspection

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i don't know thou interpret it at this time except to take it at face value. i know often comments are made publicly and things can evolve that are different. if it is the policy it's very disturbing. it's very troubling. and we'll have to wait and see. >> that was secretary of state john kerry, joe, reacting to comments by iran's supreme leader who is threatening to defy u.s. policies in the region despite a nuclear deal with world powers. joining us now, we have state department spokesman john kirby. also with us middle east expert and fellow at the u.s. institute of peace and woodrow wilson center robin wrights and writes about iran in the latest edition of "the new yorker." >> to have you both onboard this morning. >> thank you. >> admiral, let's begin with you. yesterday, of course you know the news. two members of congress said that in meetings with the iaea

in vienna, they learned two of secret side deals between the iaea and iran that wouldn't be reviewable about it american people. is that true? >> i can't speak to that. what i can tell you is all relevant documents to this deal certainly all those in our possessions have been delivered to kovenlgtcongress. they were delivered over the weekend. they'll have access to everything we have access. to the second thing i say is that the secretary kerry as well as others will be making the trip to capitol hill today and tomorrow to brief members of congress. they're doing an all house briefing to day and all senate briefing to day to explain and defend this deal. he's very much looking forward to that. so they'll have ample opportunity. >> but admiral, does the state department know of secret side deals between iran and the iaea? do you know of secret side deal twenz s between iaea? does secretary kerry know of secret side deals between iran and the iaea? >> the iaea will be working with

iran to make sure they have the information and access they need to be able to verify iran's commitments to this deal. >> that's not the question i asked. that's not the question i admiral. you are familiar with side deals with the iaea that we don't know about? >> this isn't about side deals, joe. this is about making sure the iaea gets the access they need to verify iran's commitments. kint i can't speak for the iaea. i speak for the state department. >> but certainly can speak to your knowledge and secretary kerry's knowledge and the state department's knowledge and the white house's knowledge. do you all have knowledge of these side deals? >> we know that the iaea is going to wshg with iran to make sure they get the access they need. how they do that and what manner they do that, i'll let them speak to. that. >> it sounds like there are side deals. >> well i'm just trying to get a yes or a no.

>> i can't really answer it any better than i did. i mean the iaea needs to get the access to verify iran's compliance and they do. that how they work with iran is for them to speak to. every relevant document in this deal and there's a lot of therapy, everythingthem everything has been delivered to congress and they can speak to secretary kerry to get answers to all their questions. >> you could answer it better than that. you could say yes or number let's go to robin wright. robin wright it seems a deal is done in -- between iran and the united states. and the supreme leader choose that's opportunity to start hurling rhetorical bombs at israel. the united states not making john kerry or president obama's job any easier on the hill. can you explain to the american public why he feels he needs to do that at this point? >> well remember there is a debate inside iran as well about this deal. there are 200 of the 290 members

of parliament who have been skeptical, critical and could create problems when it comes to the ratification of the so-called additional protocol by the iranian parliament. and review of the deal just like congress will do. the iranians are taking 80 days. congress is taking 60 days. it's a parallel process. i think the ayatollah's comments reflect. there are deeperish issues. there is evidence in four americans mising in iran. we changed the most volatile issue. there are other issues. they also used language about that this is not going to go away. you see a hill bit of the same

language about each other coming despite the fact they did make a breakthrough diplomatically on the nuclear issue. >> robin, we saw in the streets of tehran. it is a deeply divided country. we in america seem to simplify things when we look at middle eastern countries. can you talk about that divide that split? i commented, it's a crude analogy. but there is almost a red state-blue state split in but almost a red state/blue state split in iran where you had urban iranians wanting reform and rural iranians what they had starting in 1979. >> it's more generational more than half -- two-thirds of the population has been born since the revolution. the majority of voters now have been born since the revolution. they are under the age of 35. they are very engaged in

startups. there's much more interest in discussing how to use technology to change society in the 21st century, than conversation over what's the ideal islamic state. that is much diminished. you see today the revolution going through what is a mid life crisis reflected both in the nuclear deal and its attempt to deal with the tensions with the outside world, but also the fact it's in the midst of an election season twooo. they have an assembly of experts that oversees the supreme leader and there's a sense the next parliament will be determined whether or not this deal gets confirmed and implemented. and this opening with the outside world. a lot more is at stake than just a nuclear deal. >> john kirby, we had the brother of jason on before you. are the americans held in iran going to be coming home? >> we hope so. that's our goal and secretary

kerry took every opportunity during the talks in vienna to raise the issue of those americans with his iranian counterparts, something we never forget at the state department we'll continue to press for their release. >> i have a question for both of you. robin first, one of the big problems is people have the shear amount of money will be siphoned off to fund terrorism and weapons production all of the nef fair yus activities they are known for in the region. is there any indication perhaps of the urbanization and population the economic circumstances they have, robin, that that money instead will in fact be going towards social services as opposed to military militarization or how do you anticipate the sanctions relief being spent? >> everyone is concerned how the $100 billion will be used and the danger that it goes to hezbollah or hamas or shiite militias in iraq. there's a potential for that

obviously but the iranians are under extraordinary pressure to the people that suffered for a long time whether from sanctions and the fact the value has plummeted to less than a third of what it was a few years ago. that inflation hit 60%. now down to 15%. there's extraordinary need for $200 billion, just to revive their oil industry. they will be getting about $100 billion. there will be extraordinary pressures to deliver to the people too. >> that's true. that's absolutely right. this is an economy that we estimate is a trillion dollars in need for investment in infrastructure and domestic spending. there are certainly better things to do with the money than fund terrorist activities. if they do we can continue to apply unilateral sanctions against them and we will do that. plus, we're going to be working with our allies and partners to build their capacity to deal even better with those destabilizing activities. we're not taking a blind eye to the other things iran is capable

of doing in the region. >> all right, robin wright always enjoy having you. thank you so much for being with us. admiral kirby, always enjoy you as well when your job is tougher in some ways. thank you so much for being with us. >> coming up at the top of the hour, the republican race for 2016 turns into a no holds barred war of words with donald trump calling out pretty much everybody by name. plus, new york city mayor bill de blasio heads overseas and meets with another leader taking on uber. he may have problems with colleagues back at home. we'll be right back with much more on "morning joe."

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. rick perry the other day is doing poorly in the polls. he put glasses on so people would think he's smart. it doesn't work. he's so vicious. he used to be a nice guy and come to see me for contributions and support. all of a sudden he wants to show he's a tough guy. bush said my tone is not nice, my tone. we need tone we need enthusiasm we need tone and actually hillary clinton said i don't like his tone. we have people having their heads cut off, christians in the middle east. i see your senator, what a stiff. lindsey graham. by the way, he's registered zero in the polls. then i watch this idiot lindsey graham on television today.

he couldn't do what you people did, you're retired as hell and rich. he wouldn't be rich. he actually probably seems to me not as bright honestly at rick perry. what do i know? >> wow. >> i -- >> you know yesterday we wrote a list of all of the times he called john mccain -- i was writing this down right before we came on air. i always told my staff, you can fight somebody in politics but you better only have a one front war. you've got to pick your battles carefully. donald trump went to south carolina where lindsey graham is a very popular republican

politician. and gave out his cell phone, attacked him. he attacked the most important newspaper in iowa "des moines register" i don't care how many caucus goers work at the des moines register. we had john mccain this weekend. "the new york times" has a story about a tough back and forth with rupert murdoch and jeb bush added to the list. at some point he may want to ignore the noise. i wrote a post yesterday on facebook where i said if he stops the self-inflicted wounds the republican establishment could be in big, big trouble. don't know if he's going to do that. it just seems to keep spiraling deeper and deeper here -- fights more and more battles.

>> i'm not sure the polls are showing them to be self-inflicted wounds. mike barnicle is here and jonathan capehart and sam stein at the table. anybody in washington alex? let's go. can i borrow your glasses? i want to look smarter. >> you won't be able to see. >> won't work for me will it? as we saw donald trump went to south carolina yesterday and didn't hold back not at all. trump went hard after the state senior senator and fellow republican candidate lindsey graham for these comments the senator made yesterday. >> stop being a jackass, you don't have to run for president and being the world's biggest jackass. >> i see your senator, what a stiff. lindsey graham. i got called a jackass by this guy and then said to myself didn't he call me four years ago? yes, three or four years ago. i didn't know who he was.

mr. trump, this is senator lindsey graham i wonder if it would be possible for you to call fox. he wanted to know whether or not i could give him a good reference on fox and friends. he wanted to know. would i do that? then he wanted to whether or not he could see me for campaign contributions and gave me his number. i found the card. i wrote the number down. i don't know if it's the right number. let's try it 202-[ bleep ] maybe it's three or four years ago. maybe it's an old number. 202-[ bleep ]. >> the phone number was in fact senator graham's private cell phone which he gave out. graham tweeted probably getting a new phone. iphone or android? this is not first time trump has published the private number of someone he was feuding with. last month he published

univision's ramos's number after the channel announced it was severing ties about his comments on undocumented immigrants. i don't know if it's just below the belt but it's just over the line all the time. i think your point about fight a war on one front might be a good one. this is taking on -- >> pick your battles. pick your battles. i'm baffled how you wake up one day and you're doubling just about everybody else in polls and willie the next day, you're going out of your way to pick one fight after another. i mean it's -- you ignore the noise, especially when you're at the top of the polls, you ignore the noise. it makes them look smaller. you don't engage. but i just -- >> this is a whole new -- >> obviously it's not in his makeup to do that. >> i think as the numbers go up he feels more and more bullet

proof which he feels already. it's time for everyone to stop being shocked when he does things like this and says things like the past few days. this is who he is he is a giant middle finger to the political process. he is. that's why a lot of people like him because he does not play by established rules in politics. we've got a poll the new national poll says not a lot, trump leads with 22 points this is a new poll in the morning consult, we had the one yesterday from the "washington post," had him at 23%. jeb bush at 15. scott walker at 12. the poll conducted saturday through monday when republicans were pounding trump for saying john mccain was not a war hero. jonathan capehart there was question for the "washington post" poll about the last polling on sunday they said his numbers dropped a great deal after the mccain comments but now this is a poll that's taken

through that time that shows him at 22 23%. >> the lounge act is working. reverend sharpton came to the "washington post" and met with us and i asked about, you're a new yorker, know donald trump. give us your assessment of what's happening. he had a brilliant analogy. the first time he went to vegas, james brown told him, reverend there's a difference between the lounge act and the acts that play in the main room. and he said when you're in the lounge, you're competing with the bars and bar maids and slot machines and people gambling so you do whatever you can to get attention. when you're in the main room, they pay to see a show and you've got to be ready and have choreography and polish. when you get on the main stage, whatever you did to get out of the lounge don't do that on the main stage. and it's a brilliant analogy. so i said, but reverend, our poll says 62% of the people like the lounge act. he said people like the lounge

act when you're sitting around drinking a beer and talking, but when you decide that you want to go up and get the wives, the wives want to go to the main room. so you go -- >> he's going to be in the main room at the debates. >> okay, so given the fact that there's different ways of looking at this and this approach seems to be destructive then polls aren't backing that up. sam stein, "the huffington post" made a decision to put donald trump coverage in its entertainment section. what was the reason behind that? clearly he made some -- he's insulted your boss several times in a very personal way. is that what it's about? >> it isn't personal. it's because he's a lounge act. >> not a candidate. >> he's a candidate in the fact he's filed paperwork, but i think we're all concluding here this is a campaign basically sustained by media attention,

right? >> has "huffing ton post" ever done that? >> we made an editorial judgment that donald trump -- >> what about sarah palin. >> let me talk about trump for a second. he's sustained by media attention attention. this is a campaign that would not be at this stage in the polls -- >> that's not close to being true. >> 37% of nightly news coverage over the last month of all of the candidates has been devoted to donald trump. 37%. >> do you know whi that is sam? >> jonathan called him a lounge act. i think we're making an editorial judgment that we need to treat him as the lounge act that he is. you can get any trump news you want on our website. but we're not passive observers in this process. we're making editorial judgments any newspaper can make. >> that's absolutely absurd to suggest that donald -- >> i appreciate that. >> that is absurd.

and we started this program talking about how this might be unsustainable, but donald trump is being covered by the news because donald trump is in first place in the polls. donald trump has been around in the public as long as i think you've probably been alive. >> longer probably. >> he has been a public figure for 30 years. he's a billionaire. he's had a top show. we could go down the list of all things he has done. the media is not creating donald trump. if the media tried to create anybody, it tried to create jon huntsman and the crowds didn't follow. he was their type of republican. donald trump is not the media's type of republican or democrat or independent or whatever he is. i just -- >> i'm saying media is sustaining donald trump. and i think he knows the media is sustaining him which is why he goes out and calls mccain not

a war hero and gives cell phone numbers out. this is someone who very clearly recognizes and probably strategically brilliant, it makes sense to constantly be on the headline that's my theory. >> mike barnicle, are people in the new hampshire going out to see donald trump and south carolina because of the nightly news and what they are reporting, or are they going out because they are angry? they are genuinely angry? and all of these things that are offputting to us for some reason speaks to a very angry ee electorate electorate. >> the people in new hampshire and south carolina i would submit aren't being prompted by the nightly news to go out and see donald trump but they are being encouraged to see donald trump because he is a side show. they know he is never ever going to be president of the united states. but they might get a few

chuckles in the middle of a hot summer out of going listening to him. >> how many italians said that about berlusconi. i'm not carrying donald trump's water here. i'm flabbergasted he keeps attacking people. how many italians said that about bur husbandberlusconi. >> we played a trip of lindsey graham about a 15 second clip we've been talking about donald trump now and showing donald trump now. he is on overload. >> all right so hold on. let's put up the poll that willie put up this morning from -- about donald trump not being damaged. donald trump is at 22%. i don't see john kasich there. i think news coverage follows people who are in first place.

we haven't heard about ben carson in a while. in ben carson were at 22%, we would be talking this morning about ben carson same with huckabee or rubio as well. >> this is a fascinating conversation. we're going to have to come back to it, sam especially in terms of the huffington post decision. i don't see him only covered in the style decision. i'm not sure about the decision -- hold on. you say the media sustains donald trump. many would argue that the media sustained candidate barack obama. >> huge difference. >> huge difference. wait a minute, that's great, that's great and that's -- by the way not your job and not your job -- >> i want to make one clear distinction. we're not saying the issues raised -- for instance this talk about immigration he's raised is a political conversation. when immigration reform activists or fellow republicans go after trump because they feel

he's gone too far on that issue, that's a substantive political issue. when the stuff coming out of trump's mouth is pure vitreal and giving out cell phone numbers, we made an editorial decision that's not politics. it's political -- >> why didn't you do that during sarah palin? >> she was chosen as the vice presidential nominee of john mccain. at that juncture she's the vice presidential nominee there's no editorial choice at that point. >> okay. still ahead on "morning joe" it may sound counter intuitive, if you wants to be your own boss start by getting a second job. plus, leigh gallagher has brand-new rankings of the biggest corporations. a court tosses five against rod blagojevich out. first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. i'm surprised you and joe

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let's take a look at the morning papers from the chicago sun times, family of rod blag vich say they are disappointed he won't be set free any time soon. they were hoping for an early release after an appeals court

threw out 5 of the 18 convictions against him. the court ruled blag vich did not violate the law. the judge in the case says this type of exchange is common in politics. blag vich is in year three of the 14-year sentence and will be resentenced but for now ordered to remain in prison. >> willie geist -- >> yes, sir. >> that's kind of sad. >> mandela comes to mind -- >> stop it. no. no. >> joe is right. >> hey, hey you're all out of order. little al pacino there. willie geist you called him

gandy or mandela. >> he called himself in those things in a famous interview with the "today" show. what i think is fascinating is the judge in this case said about the political corruption it happens. what are you going to do? i will say in seriousness, 14 years in prison is ridiculous for what blago was convicted of. >> very sad for the family. usa today the department of justice dropped the criminal case against barry bonds. a jury convicted the home run leader in 2011 of obstruction of justice after he gave a meandering response about questions about injections. federal prosecutors announced yesterday that the reversal of bonds' conviction would stand. bonds has never failed a performance enhancing drug test. he released a statement after

the decision saying in part quote, the finality of today's decision gives me great peace. >> barnicle? >> mike barnicle, he's never failed a test yet his cranium is the size of rhode island. i mean everything on this man has enlarged like -- but anyway mike what do you make of this decision? he is clear of the obstruction of justice charge. unfortunately for barry bonds and baseball in a sense, he's not going to get into the hall of fame because the baseball writers association are the judge and jury and the vast majority will not vote for barry bonds or anyone else connected to steroids for the hall of fame. >> the shame of it without steroids -- >> he's is mazing, one of the best players who ever lived. >> he's remarkably skinny -- on

a special diet. called normal food. >> from yts new york times, bill de blasio spoke at the vatican not everything on the trip went according to plan. the newspaper reports mayor de blasio arrived for his speech 80 minutes late. according to american airlines it was diverted to another airport because of heavy fog -- >> that's not his fault. >> false advertising. >> this is like putting trump in the entertainment section, sadly. >> a little harsh. >> while in rome the mayor met with paris' mayor grappling with uber. taxi drivers protested uber last month, and called for cars uber pop to be seized.

mayor de blasio is locked in a bitter fight with uber in new york. top city leaders are opposing his plan to cap the number of new for hire vehicles that can go on the road and uber flooded the airways with ads saying if the number of cars is curtailed is will underserve minority neighborhoods. guaranteeing $5,000 in fares a month to drivers, saying they most focus on busiest areas, manhattan and wealthier parts of brooklyn. leigh gallagher reveals the global 500 list and country leading all others in profits and why donald trump won't be happy about it. and he knows the ebola crisis from both sides of the hospital bed. physician turned patient dr. kent brantley is here with his amazing story of survival. "morning joe" will be right back. go roam sleep in sleep out

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a look at this morning's other headlines from the international organization for migration. morning 3 million iraqis can be displaced by conflict since the beginning of 2014 that includes 250,000 iraqis from ramadi alone within the past three months. 20% are living in little more than shelters like unfinished

buildings and schools. >> peyton manning has agreed to lend financial support to families of the victims of last week's shootings in tennessee. manning visited chattanooga spending time with military personnel and local police officers. bob corker mentioned manning's efforts while speaking on capitol hill yesterday. >> my friend and a great tennesseean or we claim him as that peyton manning, has lent his name to this effort. and my sensuale is you'll see a generous outpouring at the base level. some of the needs of the family if not all will be dealt with in a appropriate way. >> from "the guardian." president obama spoke to netanyahu offering to upgrade israel's military capabilities after the iran nuclear deal was struck. however, the day before the news site "the onion" appeared to

have the scoop when it published a tongue in cheek piece announcing they would receive a nice big shipment of ballistic missiles to help them come to terms with the iran deal. in real life pentagon officials later clarified israel would not be offered any weapons to make up for the deal. sometimes life does imitation satire. >> from the richmond times dispatch. undeterred by shark attacks, a couple vacationing in north carolina waded into the water with what appeared to be make shift shark cages. this video was shot. the couple from richmond fashioned the personal safety cages out of pvc from home that they painted to resemble steel. >> have a nice vacation. >> it's not even steel.

>> that's not going to protect them. do they know that? >> you wonder what the other bathers were thinking? >> that's hilarious. >> not the brightest -- are you sure? okay. the "washington post," the odds of surviving a lightning strike and winning lottery are 1 in 2.6 trillion -- >> get out of here. >> as a teenager he survived being hit by lightning and yesterday, he won a $1 million lottery prize. >> good for peter. >> though he had been buying tickets for the last year or so i honestly expected to get hit by lightning again first. the luckiest man alive. >> he got struck by lightning -- he had done it simultaneously, i would be more impressed. >> gosh you're hard to please. >> a lottery ticket -- >> fortune is out with the new rankings of the world's largest

500 corporations. here to take us through the list, leigh gallagher. is brian with us -- there he is? brian sullivan with us as well. leigh, take us through that. brian, discuss. what do we got at the top? >> this is the global 500. we do the fortune 500, u.s. based companies but this is the world and puts countries in perspective. walmart is the top for the second year of the row and what's interesting is that of the top ten, only two of the top ten are u.s. companies. this is very very -- you can see the movement. japan had 149 of the 500, twenty years ago and now 54. china has 9 8 companies and this is the growth of china, we all know is through the roof. two of the top five. one interesting thing there's a

industrial and commercial bank one of china's state owned banks and has the largest profit in the world, bigger than apple. this is a record something new. so there's a lot of interesting things going on with this list. >> with the drop in the chinese stock market that everyone was worried about a couple of weeks ago, how does that play into these rankings and into maybe future rankings? or was that just a blip? >> china is working these issues out. this list is based on revenue. it's something that all of the companies are dealing with and have to deal with in the future. >> brian, a couple of these companies are obviously in the oil business. china natural pe troel yum. what impact if any will the relief of lessening of sanctions in iran deal have to do with growth of companies like france and russia? >> sinopec is also an oil company.

you have a number of them on the list. china has 1.3 billion people driving more. their thirst for oil continues to grow. you can see another call it million barrels a day. the world produces and consumes i'll be rough here about 90 to 92 million barrels of oil every single day. add a million barrels onto the list. focus on this. three of the top then are china companies but the biggest 12 companies in china are mostly or primarily owned by the chinese government. so you look at a walmart, number one on the list private company based in arkansas we're competing on the revenue side with effectively chinese government institutions. that's what sinopec is. >> that's absolutely right. on the oil point, five of the top ten are oil refiners in some way. they were all impacted by the drop in oil prices. while revenues are up to a collective 32 trillion, profits

are down 15% largely because of the drop in oil. >> can we talk about the growth of walmart quickly. great list as always. 485 billion in projected sales this year. it was quote, just 82 million back in 1995. so in twenty years, walmart has grown its sales by almost 500%. >> how have they done that? >> selling more stuff. >> every day low prices sam. >> i just thought it was funny, brian said all of these companies are in china are government owned. walmart runs our government right, they get whatever they want from our government so does exxon, basically. >> why am i surprised that voekz wagen is bigger than toyota. >> they are bigger than you think. they have a lot of companies under their umbrella. and toyota that's a fair question but the auto companies are all getting bigger as the consolidation is happening. >> are there any industries -- oil is huge any industries that

you think could be on this list ten years from now on the up and up? >> the rise of tech that is something that is not stopping. we've seen that on the fortune 500 with obviously apple and facebook and other companies -- >> we could see facebook in the top ten? >> i don't know about the top ten but they made the fortune 500 for first time two or three years ago. a lot of these privately held tech companies that hopefully go public within the next couple of years -- >> what about apple? >> a juggernaut it's the most profitable company in the world. >> that's amazing. >> profit seems to be more important than sales. if i was running a business i would be more worried about how much i'm making versus what i'm selling. with apple, the numbers came out last night, kind of disappointing but you might find this interesting. here's the number of the day, 203 billion. that is the amount of cash that apple now has in its coffers, $203 billion. apple could single handedly bail

out the nation of greece should it choose to. >> this was a great sneak peek the new issue comes out tomorrow. leigh, thank you very much and hopefully we'll have you back to discuss interesting new cover stories as well. >> i hope. >> brian, thank you as well i think. >> yes. >> an 11-year-old boy from michigan stands up to bullying and his campaign takes him all the way to the white house. that story is next on "morning joe."

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it has been viewed almost 1 million times. >> i hope that people don't bully other people online anymore and that this helps. and people that have been bullied, don't let these words affect you. and they are going to say some stuff that they say, yeah but there's going to be bad people in the world. >> senior adviser to the president valerie jarrett invited logan and his family to the white house. here they are, valerie tweeting logan's courage will help save lives. we join him in that. >> i love that story. great kid. >> absolutely. finding a way to put words to it and share and help others. joining the table we have cindy levy we talked about amy

schumer last time you were here and since then i have seen "train wreck" i went with my daughter she's 19. and -- and -- >> it's going to be all right. >> i like what you've written here because this is about -- i think amy coming to talk to you guys and you said mesmerized at a glamour monolog event as she told a painful story about her college sex life wasn't just going for punch lines but understanding. she wanted to make women in the audience feel better about their own experiences, which i think she taps into well. i'm also like talking to my daughter about it i just worry about young women turning the tables too much on the imbalance that society saw in terms of sexuality and how men, you know it's okay to cat around and woman is the shut if she does. this sort of turns the tables on

it. it seems sad. >> i don't know i didn't find it sad at all. >> and really graphic. >> it is graphic. i would not take my daughter. but the whole point of the movie is that she is -- right there the title, train wreck, it's not in defense of that lifestyle, saying lots of young women have flaws and smoke and drink and sleep with people they hadn't and she gets her life together in the end. >> is that movie for us? >> oh, sorry. >> it's real life. >> was that movie for us or for 19-year-olds? >> i think it was for any woman who feel she made decisions that maybe she wishes she hadn't. i think probably every woman can relate to that in some way. to me it was saying if you are flawed, you're not damned for all eternity. you can get it together. >> i get that. i definitely get that. it was more the -- >> i was going to say, you're talking about this movie, which i have not seen, but from everything i've heard, i'm going to see it. it makes me think of porky's and

animal house -- >> me too. >> where they talk about geared to teenage boys. i think it's quite great there are movies coming out that turn the tables and talk about things from the women's perspective and you know have them on an equal playing feel smoking and drinking and fooling around and making bad decisions. teenage boys have been making in hollywood for decades. >> by the way, maybe my memory of porky's is not crystal clear, but i don't remember those guys getting their life together at the end. i think it was probably this has a more hopeful note. >> i did see porky's, believe it or not, and animal house. >> look you've gotten this far. >> and i do love the concept of sort of turning it around and -- i do. i just -- >> you took your daughter. she's 19. >> uh-huh. >> was she uncomfortable? >> yeah. >> why? >> because she's watching it with her mom, that's why. >> we were both -- we were like we kept looking at each and

going like this. >> trying not to laugh in each other's presence. we had a conversation about this after but the question is -- >> i couldn't imagine going to the movies with my mother. >> starting to make a little more sense now. >> because she was with you, okay. >> of course of course. but i actually think there is -- look it's like the show "girls." the movie, like that show and like others kind of not just do things like turn the tables on society, but they also represent what our young people are living like today. what life is like for girls. that made me feel sad. >> i think it's good there are all kinds of female characteristics out there. some you identify with and some not. that has been the case for male characters through the history, not all supposed to be standing

foremanhood. >> anybody in porky's, just want to put that out there. >> the idea in all of the movies, there are taboo conversations, things you talk about among your closest friends but not anyone else that these movies thrust in your face. and they force you to actually legitimizing and discuss with your 19-year-old daughter. it's fun for people and also uncomfortable for people but that's the whole point, right? >> what these movies are and they've done with a purpose and with direction, they are basically 110 minute long versions of social media that everyone is exposed to facebook and texting. that's what they are. that's why they are so popular. >> i learned a lot. okay. by the way, also in "glamour", guidelines for seeking a second job and they are amazing. amy schumer and this issue is in there. on newsstands now.

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what's at stake is humanity human lives. this outbreak is growing at the xpoen ent shal rate and every day we delay it's hundreds of human lives and it will be more and more the longer we wait to take action. i hope and pray that my words and words of other witnesses could help stir the u.s. government to take action immediately as i and some of the other witnesses said it has to happen now. and now means now. >> that was ebola survivor dr. kent brantley speaking last fall in the urgency of assisting ebola stricken regions of west africa and nearly a year after their lives were changed forever, dr. brantley and his wife amber, join us with their new book called for life how loving our neighbor let us into the heart of the ebola epidemic. welcome both of you. >> thank you. >> i actually think this is a

fascinating way of approaching this book given this experience which was so public for you and really had the eyes of the world on your condition for a certain period of time. it's a play by play from each of your perspectives on your experience with ebola. i would like to start with you, amber, how can you describe what it was like to watch your husband go through this? >> well it was -- it was horrible. i think the hardest part was i was so far away from him because i traveled back to visit my family for a wedding. and he stayed behind to keep working. he was going to join me a week later. during that week he got sick. i had to watch him from so far away and just through our phones is the only way we could communicate. >> how did you find out he was sick? how did the word -- >> he told me. as soon as he found out dr. john and dr. lance came over to tell them they got the result back. and dr. john stepped in the other room so he could make

phone calls and called me first and told me his test had come back positive for ebola. >> just like that? >> just like that. it was very matter of fact. >> what did you say? >> i'm so sorry. i'm so sorry. >> doctor how did you get it? do you know yet? one of confounding things and frightening things early on was the fact that a lot of people that did everything right still seemed to get this virus. >> i will never know exactly how i contracted the disease. as you can imagine i've relived every moment of my life trying to figure out how did i come in contact with ebola. and i have my suspicions and ideas and i think it came outside of the treatment unit when i was taking care of a patient in the emergency room later diagnosed with ebola, interacting with her and her family. that's my best guess but i'll never know for sure. >> this time last year you couldn't go a day without hearing ebola and talking about

the concern, whether it's newspapers or on television and the americans that had contracted the disease that had come home. how do you think we as media handled the coverage? were we overreacting? did we handle it well? do you have concerns that it would cut back the number of those who would go to africa now to help? >> that was a real concern at the time. i think it's understandable that there's a lot of fear surrounding this scary disease coming into america. people who were going to west africa to treat patients coming back, it's understandable there was a lot of fear. but that fear needs to be balanced with the best available science, with rational thought, with compassion. and we need to not let the fear be the dominating factor in our public opinion and public policy. i think if we look at cases like the doctor who came back from guinea diagnosed here in new

york city there was a lot of feedback about his activity prior to his -- taxicabs and what not. but the protocol was safe no one else got sick from him. maybe the science we were using was appropriate and safe. >> amber, i want to ask you about this picture. >> just stepping out of his hospital room. his blood has come back negative and stepped out to me for the first time. >> were you ever worried it wouldn't happen? >> yes, yes very much so. >> well thank you all for putting together this look and telling your story. it's incredibly enlightening and the work you do along with it what led you both there needs to be recognized and hopefully it doesn't frighten people too much and kind of opens their eyes to

why we need to reach out to people who need help in west africa and other places. the book is called "called for life" how loving our neighbor led us into the heart of the ebola epidemic. thank you so much. we'll be right back with much more "morning joe."

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time to talk about what we learned today. cindy, what have i learned? >> i learned that you must have a much more upright moral compass than i do. you have a problem with women with flaws, come on. >> no no -- >> no i know you don't. >> it was just kind of -- i learned something in this segment. >> i learned it's good for women to be complicated and you agree with that. >> that i am. >> i learned that apparently donald trump is running for president. i had no idea. >> jonathan capehart. >> i learned you like embarrassing your daughter by going to dirty movies with her. >> we had a good talk. >> i learned it was the last time you'll go to the movies with your daughter. >> she will never trust me again. i was trying to be like normal. it didn't work. way too early. it's time for "morning joe" and

now it's time for "the rundown." have a good day, everyone. >> good morning, reporting this morning from new york and first on the rundown this morning, newly released dashcam video shows a heated confrontation that ended in sara bland's arrest. john yang has more on this. john, good morning. >> reporter: jose how are you? we just got word from the texas department of public safety there's questions about whether this video was edited the dash cam video they released because there appear to be jump cuts in it. they say it was not edited and technical issue as they downloaded the video and they are now working to repost that video on the web without those glitches and without those apparent jump cuts. this entire thing is a 52