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for political sport. and the real threat to the homeland. the fbi director says al qaeda is no longer what keeps him up at night. now it's the group known as isis or isil. >> isil is not your parent's al qaeda. it's a very different model. and by virtue of that model it's currently the threat that we are worrying ability in the homeland most of all. good day. i'm andrea mitchell if washington. donald trump's private plane is going to land in laredo in a few hours. taking his brash message to the border. jose host of msnbc's "the run down" is live in laredo. jose, what are we expecting him to see there and the reception he's going to get there?
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now we know the border patrol union who had originally invited him has backed off and trump is crying foul saying they were pressured to back off by people in washington. >> that's right. and he said all along he was coming to see the border area. as a matter of fact, the press release said that he was going to come to the very -- despite the dangers of coming to laredo he was going to come and see that as invitation of the local border fral union that has since disinvited him. he is expected behind me later on this afternoon to hold a press conference rally here in this place. normally host kinsis, the coming out parties of 15-year-old girls. but this is laredo, texas. this a city of about 250,000 people andrea. more than 90% of whom are latinos. he comes at a time when a lot of people are wondering what exactly is it that he is trying
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to accomplish by coming here to the border, by talking about immigration, by talking about the undocumented? as we know when he announced he was running for presidency he said that those that come over the border from mexico aren't like you. he said they are rapists and they are causing a lot of problems. mexico is -- the united states is becoming the dumping ground for mexico and other countries. so it's something that as you has been causing a lot of reaction by even other gop candidates including the former governor of this state. but here he is and here we are and here now the issue of immigration is on the forefront of a lot of people's minds because of what trump is saying. >> now, in texas it has been a much less polarizing issue. going all of the way back to george w. bush when he was governor, then let's say arizona where trump got that enormous crowd in phoenix and where he is trying to do his best to divide
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the republican party and go up against john mccain. in texas there's a much more simulated population. >> that's a great way of putting it andrea. indeed it's a much more simulated population. we are just a couple hundred yards from the mexican border. one of the most beautiful industrial cities of northern mexico is near where we are. there is so much trade communication, family visits between folks that live in the monterrey area in this part of mexico and laredo and other parts of the texas border there is a tradition of communication, of business, of all kinds of industries. as a matter of fact, this week there is an expo here in laredo when merchants from mexico are coming to present their wares and they're inviting american merchants to go over there and do the same thing. it's a tradition, a culture of, you know, a lot of communication. and so it's a ishtdifferent thing.
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but, andrea, the same problems that are being seen in the towns in arizona where w. the undocumented problem is being seen here as well. what a lot of people are saying is, you know a lot of politicians like to talk about it and some even talk about it in incendiary ways but no one wants to do anything about it. >> well, and, in fact just to do a little fact checking here. something you know very well, jose the net immigration from mexico is a net zero in the last couple of years according to all the census reports because of the improvement in the economy there, because of the changing demgraphy, the younger population there the declining birth rate. >> tougher border. >> and tougher border, and record-breaking deportments from the obama administration. thanks so much, jose. stay safe down there, jose. i know how dangerous it is. >> thank you. it is a safe place. come on down to laredo.
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it's great. >> i know. i know. i wanted to read what jose was referring to and bripgs b in nbc's political director chuck todd moderator of "meet the press." this is the statement from the trump campaign. despite the great danger mr. trump is traveling to laredo, texas, to proceed with the visit to the border. it is unfortunate the local union of border patrol agents received pressure at a national level, his claim, we don't have that confirmed, not to participate and ultimately pulled out of today's events. they are being silenced and are very unhappy about it, as told directly to mr. trump. >> look, i think the fact is if he's going to talk about this, if he didn't go to the border we would be right to criticize him for spouting out about something without bog to take a firsthand look. >> he told katy tur a couple years ago a few times. >> a few times but not lately. i look at it you know what, he's at least going to the border. this would be, to me, he would deserve more criticism if he were not going to the border. so let's wait and see what he has to say.
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and as for -- i wouldn't be surprised, you know, other -- he's not the first presidential candidate to go to the border. all of the other ones did it with greg abbott. it's interesting. governor of texas has been basically regularly hosting -- he did it before these guys actually announced but all the presidential wannabes were make that stop. scott walker did a border visit, i believe with greg. there's a bunch of them that did it. perhaps trump probably should have done it through the governor's office or maybe the governor's office didn't help him. probably would have opened the door a little bit more. i get you know how the union things work. suddenly, if you do this you have to do it for all the candidates. that's probably what happened. >> stay out of the politics of itted. and donald trump versus lindsey graham who was on the set of "morning joe" this morning trying to destroy his flip phone. >> yeah. >> if you're making the point that we should be talking about something other than my phone number good point.
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look at the polling in these swing states with hillary. he's eminently beatable. the only way we're going to lose this election is continue to say things like donald is a s. saying and having people like we respond endlessly. >> speaking of hillary clinton, i mean it's one poll, it's a quinnipiac poll, we're in the field and you're going is have fesh polls. >> on sunday morning in the early states. >> it does show her behind in the swing states with virginia, i guess, as within the margin of error. >> i would say this with these quinnipiac poll numbers. >> it's early. >> no it's like her standing in national polls look strong. these swing states, virginia, usually goes where the national polls are. something is amiss. either the state polls are an outlier or they found something first before the national polls which is possible. this is one of these things fa i'm the clinton campaign i look at these numbers and going oh no. and i'm going in the field myself to see if it an outlier or are they on to something. and i think that that's how all
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of us should take in these polls. when you see one that doesn't look like everything else, you suddenly sit there and say, okay, let's see if there's another poll. look, by the way, it wasn't just hillary that was poor in these polls. it was democrats across the board. the clinton campaign is pushing back saying maybe this was a bad democratic sample. we'll see. >> could be the attention is all on the republican race. >> i think there's a lot to that. maybe the iran deal is not playing well. there's a lot of thes here that could be influencing it or one out of every 20 polls, no matter how well they're connected sometimes just get bad numbers. >> when you're at all worried about how things are playing in the field and you're in south carolina today maybe you fall back on your base. take a look at what she had to say today. >> clearly i'm not asking people to vote for me simply because i'm a woman. i'm asking people to vote for me on the merits. and i think one of the merits is i am a woman and i can bring those views and perspectives to
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the white house. >> that is actually one of her you know most obvious attributes. >> it is. i think it's a way in. particularly with progressives who sit therend say, gee, she's not that progressive or there's too much bill clinton in her and bill clinton ting late bill clinton triangulating. wait a minute, is it about time to have a woman in the white house and does that trump -- that to me is what it sounded like. are you thinking about going with bernie sanders? is he exciting you more than i'm exciting you? i get that. think about this i do bring something else here to the table and that will matter in ways that you don't quite -- we don't even quite know yet. i get what she's trying to do. that's the other thing. these polls came at a time when you're looking at her small donor base seems mode oakmediocre. she's not the one drawing a crowd. you have an anecdote there, an
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an annetteecdote there. she doesn't wear well over time. maybe they're outliers but, wait a minute, we have a data point here that hasn't been great, a data point here that hasn't been great. suddenly this adds to it. is there something else? look. everybody has watched this campaign and we all come to the same conclusion. there's something just not quite right. you know, is it enthusiasm? i don't know. is it her? i don't know. there's just something that doesn't seem to be big, bold, and boom. >> she's filling in the blanks. she's going to give a speech in nrk new york tomorrow. talk about capital gainsnd long-term investment and try to come up with an economic policy. >> i get it. they're building for the long laul. this is a long game. no doubt about it. jeb bush is the same way. clearly running the long game. lost this week one of the most interesting speeches he's given was about what he would do about cutting the size of government. he talked about his days in
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tallahassee. it went nowhere. the supposed other front-runner nothing got attention. and same we. they're both playing the long game here. i get it. boy, in the moment, it never feels very comforting. >> quick question about iran. you are talking to a lot of people about this. it's a heavy lift in the foreign relateses committee as we speak. >> john kerry's former stomping groupds, too. don't forget. >> he chaired that committee. >> and this was -- i don't know who loved that committee more, john kerry or joe biden. i think when you think about foreign affairs. but there's no lifeline. normally when an administration official there's usually come lifeline tons committee to give you a break from tough questioning. ain't a lot of lifelines for kerry here because you have a lot of skeptical democrats, particularly on this committee. this is the most intelligent committee when it comes to foreign affairs. >> tim kaine, chris koones.
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chuck schumer, the great unknown. i understand that moniz and kerry had dinner with chuck schumer to try to explain it to him. he still has a lot of questions about verification. >> have you seen a full court press by them? when it comes to off the record on the record. the administration know they have to sell this deal because the immediate -- the knee-jerk reaction to the deal is really? >> let me tell you -- >> like you could feel it. the public has that same view. split. they want diplomacy. congress feels that way. and they know it. the administration knows this is going to be a long, hard sell. and i'm amazed at all the stops they're pulling out. >> you know who is also having a hard sell at home? zarif. he's in parliament and they say they want an extra 20 days. they want more time to look at the deal. >> is that a good thing for kerry? does that make it easier for him to sell fit they're having a hard time? >> exactly. it just means that both capitals are up in arms over there.
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>> there we go. >> but not nuclear arm, we hope. >> you're full of puns today. >> good to see you, chuck. >> thank you andrea. and three cabinet secretaries under fire in the senate as we say defending the nuclear deal negotiate with iran. 340er coming up next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. ♪ coming up next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. m coming up next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. ore coming up next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. building aircraft, the likes of which the world has never seen. this is what we do. ♪ that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. [ school bell rings ] ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] everything kids touch at school sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. you handle
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and right now on capitol hill, the 12345i9 forsenate foreign relations committee are meeting, it's a crucial test for the administration policy and so far the secretary of state and the secretary of energy as you see there on defense. >> anyone who believes this is a good deal really joins the ranks
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of the most naive people on the face of earth. >> we've negotiated. and i guarantee you for the first 15 years, you have unbelievable restraints that make it impossible to even them about making a bomb. think about it can't do anything about it. so at the end of 15 years, you have every option that you have today. your decision is whether you want those 15 years to be right now. >> "new york times" national security correspondent david sanger joins me now from thes a spend security conference in colorado. david, thank you very much. we spent a lot of time quality time in vienna waiting and waiting and waiting for this deal. now it is a deal, it's an agreement. and actually there's trouble in both capitals. zarif is having trouble selling it in tehran and john kerry is having a heck of a time on capitol hill. i hear that it's been ferocious behind the scenes. >> that's what i understand as well andrea. i think it's interesting you captured a little bit of both
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their strongest case and their biggest problem in that clip you just had from secretary kerry earlier this morning. if you are looking for something that buys you some time which is all that we've ever done with the iranian nuclear deal, we've always managed to push a nuclear weapon a little further down the line or at least the capability to build one. >> then this deal definitely gives you more than the alternatives. it gives you more than what bombing their facilities would which by most estimates would buy the united states and allies three we or four or five years. the sanctions secretary kerry is arguing have been effective but they couldn't be long lasting. you can't maintain the sanctions regime that tightly indefinitely. so he's making a very strong 10 to 15-year argument. if on the other hand you want a permanent fix to the iranian nuclear program this isn't the deal for you because starting in
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around year 13 or 14 those restraints xwin to come off and by year 15 they can build an industrial sized capability. we just don't know what iran is going to look like 15 years from now and neither does john kerry and neither does anyone else on that senate foreign relations committee. and neither does javad zarif, the iranian for written minister as he's trying to sell it back home in tehran. >> david one of the big issues that blew up in the last 24, 48 hours because of tom cotton is this whole question of a side deal secretly negotiated between the iaea and tehran. when we were in vienna they were telling us that basically the iaea and the agency that you've known and compvered for years would be in charge of verifying and inspecting with iran as they do with all other countries that are signatories to the nonproliferation treaty. as you know the director aymano
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had gone to tehran twice while we were in vienna to get their agreement to how it was going to be done. that work plan though is being called a side deal. it wasn't a secret because it was discussed very openly in vienna. but to the senate, this is outsource outsourcing, secret deals that can't be briefed to congress. how do they get around that problem? >> well, it can be briefed to congress because the united states knows what's in that deal. they just haven't told all of us. now, it is not a secret deal in that the international atomic energy agency which does the inspections for every country that is a signatory of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty and iran is a signatory. that set of inspections are conducted under an agreement called the safeguards agreement that is a confident shall document. it's not really a secret document the way you would think of something classified in washington but it is confidential.
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and what we don't know about that treatment is pretty important and so here i think the republicans have a bit of a point. we don't know what kind of documents iran is required to turn over. we don't know whether the inspectors are going to get to interview zachary's day who was the man believed to be at the center of the iranian military side of the program or any of his deputies the scientists and others. and we don't know whether the time frame for all of this, which is to get an iaea report together by the end of the year is sufficient for a really deep understanding of what iran did in the past. and there are many in the u.s. senate who believe that the state department's view is we can't change what happened in the past so let's get past this and set parameters of what they can do in the future. the agreement does that. but it's a question sort of a philosophical question of can you have confidence in this
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agreement if you don't fully understand how close iran got to a design of a bomb over the past 10 or 15 years. >> david sanger who knows more about this than anyone and wrote the book on stuks net, the secret covert operation that slowed iran down by putting a computer virus in their centrifuges. david sanger, thank you very much. ahead, more on the sandra bland mystery. hillary clinton taking note of it today. >> it's heartbreaking to read about another death of a young woman, sandra bland, in texas. another young african-american life cut short. and that's why i think it is essential that we all stand up and say loudly and clearly yes black lives matter. >> and the governor of texas
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yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. ensure. take life in. devastating story over the death of sandra bland, the chicago woman found hanging in a texas jail cell three day afters arrested for a routine traffic stop for changing lanes. preliminary autopsy reports shows marijuana was found in bland's system. nbc's john yang has the latest from outside the prison in help stead, texas. >> hello andrea. officials in texas are saying the autopsy on sandra bland shows she has marijuana in her system when he died. they want to try to figure out how long it had been in her system and also what role it might have played in her death. for that reason they've asked sandra bland's family to do something that their attorney says is disturbing.
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late wednesday night authorities asked sandra bland's family to preserve her body for more testing. >> now there have been reports in the media that marijuana was found in ms. bland's system. and i can't confirm that. as a result of new information that we discovered today, the district attorney, mr. mathis, asked the civil attorney to please preserve the body. >> reporter: the prosecutor also said there's evidence she had tried to cut herself one to two weeks prior to her death. on her first night in jail bland left a voice mail message for a friend struggling to understand what was happening to her. >> i'm still just at a loss for words, honestly, about this whole process. how does this switching lane turn into this? >> the voice mail was obtained by ktrk in houston. newly released documents showed earlier that day she told jail officials she had tried to kill herself in 2014 after losing a
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baby but said she was not suicidal on that day. her family's attorney says they were unaware of the past attempt and that in any event it doesn't matter. >> she had just gotten to texas the day before. she was about to start a job. >> reporter: now others are wondering how this traffic stop went so bad so fast. >> get out of the car now. >> reporter: texas state trooper brian encinia said bland kicked him in the leg during the incident that lasted 15 minutes. in nbc news edited excerpts. >> once each fuse is lit, it's not good. >> reporter: we watched the too with houston defense attorney rusty hardin who is a farmer prosecutor. >> she's not entitled to physically resist him but he has got certain responsibilities to make this situation not escalate out of control. >> i will light you up. get out. >> wow. >> now. >> wow. >> get out of the car. >> wow. for failure for signal.
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>> he knows traffic encounters in-depth something bad. >> they're not asking for the body to be returned to texas, they're not asking for a second autopsy. they say that with the family's cooperation, this is something that could be done quickly in the chicago area and need not delay sandra bland's funeral which is asked fouled for saturday. the bland family attorney says it does not give him confidence in this investigation. andrea? >> john yang, thanks so much. and the naacp legal defense and education fund is among many groups demanding a full investigation into just how sandra bland died. joining me now is nomonique dickson. thank you very much. it's good to have you here. >> thank you for having me. >> how do you even start to figure out what happened in this case? what do you want to hear from the authorities down there? >> well you know this case is disturbing on so many levels. first, ms. bland has joined an
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increasing number of men and now women who have been subjected to aggressive policing tactics including excessive use of force. and has died as a result either directly or indirectly of these tactics. it's disturbing on another level in that there are so many questions being presented in this case. one of the main questions is whether the initial stop was legal. you know it could be argued on either side. we've consulted with lawyers in texas who have said you know, the officer may have precipitated the stop, triggered the stop because he was, in fact 100 feet behind her causing her to change lanes and state law says that if someone is 100 feet behind you, you have to signal when you change lanes. so there's a question there. then there's a question as to whether or not racial profileing was involved. she's an out of state driver's
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plate and driver's license african-american woman. whether or not, you know he was motivated by that. but you know what we really -- the main question is whether the stop was legal or whether the arrest was legal. the question for us is was there a better way for this officer to manage that? were there opportunities for this officer to de-escalate? and we thought there were many. he had many opportunities. the first one was when he came to the car window and asked her if you're okay. she responded. from our per expect i've she responded and was not combative but cooperated with him. like she was annoyed clearly but every question he asked of her she answered. and he did not like the answer. and instead of him just saying, here's a warning, have a good day. he, you know, escalated the situation by asking her are you finished, you know, when she
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then asking her to put the cigarette out. it just spiraled into insanity after that. so the officer really in our view had the -- was obligated to de-escalate that situation. it was a simple traffic stop. >> monique, does it matter whether she had marijuana in her body, does it matter whether she had any prior depression? >> it's not relevant to the stop. he stopped her for changing lanes without signaling. nothing in his affidavit states that he was suspected her of smoking marry airijuana or driving under influence. the stop and the arrest is what led her to be held in the county jail. it's really in our view not relevant. you know but we'll see how it will be used if at all. >> monique dickson from the naacp legal defense fund. thank you very much. >> thank you.
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this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com. donald trump, the candidate, is a sore of division, wrongly demonizing mexican-americans for mitt call political sport. let no one be mistaken donald trump's candidacy is a cancer on con conservatism. >> trump now leading in the republican polls, makes his way to the lone star state. joining me now is huffington post political reporter sam stein, msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt live in
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laredo and "wall street journal" political editor jean cummings. welcome to you all. to you first down in laredo, every time republicans follow republican or democrats, but in particular the fellow republicans beat up on donald trump i think he's laughing all the way to the border because he thinks this helps him. you know, it creates more enthusiasm among the anti-politician, anti-washington crowd. >> i think that that's right andrea. i do think it's interesting that rick perry is the one who made this decision to really go after donald trump. he is someone who has more experience than probably anyone else in the field with a lot of this. he's gone into some detail criticizing trump for going after or seeming to criticize the border patrol agents and the police who are here protecting the border. perry says, of course rs it's the federal government that's hung those people out to dry. but at the same time perry desperately needs oxygen. that's true of all the rest of the republicans at the bottom of
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this field. and this is a way for him to get into this story about donald trump by becoming a part of it himself. and i think lindsey graham has done something similar. it's remarkable that that's the point that this has reached. as you say it's a little bit dangerous now that we have trump out there saying that he might run as an independent. i think that's something that is potentially very dicey for the republican party. and that's why they've worked hard in past cycles to keep trump in the fold. >> but, jean cummings does the party at some point have to decide whether or not they keep encouraging him or not criticizing him at least from the party level because if he actually does a third-party run, this is incredibly threatening to the republican party. >> absolutely. >> any way you look at it, no matter how much he pulls, look at what happened with roz perot when he was running. any third-party candidacy that draws from republican ranks is going to elect the democratic nominee.
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>> the republicans already have so many other demographic problems in terms of you know, the minority vote, the gap on hispanics, and donald trump would take from only one place, unlike ross perot, trump takes one place and that is conservative republicans. and so it would create a huge disadvantage for them in the general election. and so we'll see what he decides. you know, he could certainly self finance and stay on the stage if he is still enjoying his while he's out there. >> sam stein, is there any advantage to the republican party keeping him off the debate stage which is only a couple weeks from now in ohio? >> i don't think so at this juncture because as we've seen, the more youage ageitate him the more he fights back. i know rick perry is bashing donald trump today and yesterday, but it wasn't that long ago, 2011 precisely that he was going to trump towers to
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have dinner with him, to court him for his endorsement. same with mitt romney. lindsey graham the reason trump gave out his cellphone number is lindsey graham was hitting him up fordow nation. they invited him in the tebt. the rnc was tweeting gleefully about his entrance in the race when it happened and now they're reaping the downsides of it and it's hard to see how they can turn around after doing all that, kick him off the debate stage and not get burned in the process. >> kasie, you've been out there watching and talking to people at his rallies. they are angry. they've got, you know, an anti-washington bias for sure. understandable given you know, what they are seeing. they talk about getting their country back, making america great. what about the specifics? >> the specifics. nailing donald trump down on specifics is one of the most difficult things to do. i have tried in several
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interviews over the past few years to try to get him to talk policy specifics and he almost never does. we don't know what his plan specifically for example would be for the 11 million undocumented workers who are here in america. we don't know specifics on a wide range of things. be you're right, he has tapped into this populous stream either way. so i think really the question and this goes to a lot of us in the media as well, is are we going to cover donald trump luke we would cover all the rest of the candidates in this field, which is to say press him on specifics. >> sorry about that. as donald trump says, it's rough down there. kasie hunt keeping her cool. thank you very much. and our thanks of course to sam stein and to jeanne cummings of the "wall street journal." and in the first major political test for the iran nuclear deal there is more than one 2016 hopeful seizing a
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moment that criticize the agreement and its negotiators. >> this is a deal who survival is not guaranteed beyond the term of the current president. and by the way, i personally hope that the next president is someone who will remove the national security waiver and reimpose the congressional sanctions that were passed by congress because this deal is fundamentally and irreparableably plowed. it weakens the national security and makes the world a more dangerous place. >> i am confident the next president of the united states has the common sense that if it's being applied propererly they're not going to arbitrarily end it. >> i'm joined by congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on the house intelligence committee. congressman, i believe you just had a briefing at the white house. can you share what their concerns are and whether they have alleviated any of your concerns about this deal. >> we had i think a very good meeting with the president and this is a president who is well into the weeds on this issue.
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he doesn't need someone happeneding him cards about what the talking points are. he really i think feels very positive about this deal and was ready to make the case to us. i think the members had great questions about the nature of the snap back sanctions whether there should be something short of snacking back all the sanctions, issues about how we could counter iran's use of greater resources, as well as what would happen after the 15-year period expires. i think for all of us in that room who are still undecided, it was helpful to get the president's perspective quite directly. we're hearing from other experts as well to inform our decision by i thought it was a very useful session. >> while you were with the president of course the hearing was going on in the senate. i wanted to play a little bit of foreign relations chash man bob corker's concerns about the ieae and the inspection regime. >> we don't even have a copy of the agreement to ascertain on behalf of the american people whether the iaea process, which,
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again, you should go look into this part of it has any integrity. it's very disappointing. >> did you all ask the president about whether there are side deals or secret deals which are negotiated according to the nonproliferation treaty, the iaea negotiates with treaties like iran. the iaea director came back to vienna and said he was satisfied with the deal that he had negotiated with iran. but this is becoming a big cause of concern. what about in your mind? >> well, you know i certainly would love to know what the agreement is precisely because the iaea and iran over these inspections. i think that we'll get a general understanding of it. i don't know that we will get text. i think that's not something that the iaea provides. but the long and the short of it is if this agreement does go through at a certain point later in the year, i think in late october, they have to satisfy
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not only the iaea but i think the rest of the p5+1 that we have to understand what the military dimensions of the program were in the past. and if we're not satisfied then i think that could be the end of the agreement. so we do have an enforcement mechanism if this deal should pass but i would certainly feel much more comfortable if i knew for example, are we going to have access to iran's top nuclear scientists, are we going to have access to these military sites, and if not, how does the iaea explain that it can get adequate answers to these dozen questions that it has without those access to scientists and sites? >> did the president ask you for a commitment? did you give him any commitment? >> the president didn't ask specifically for commitment from me or the others. clearly he would like i think members to come out in favor of the agreement and sooner rather than later. but it was a very respectful meeting me laid out the case and his view on the merits and for
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the president he's quite unequivocal about where he thinks the merits of the are. so he responded to each questions that we raised and each concerns. of course it's not as simple as hearing answers to those questions. we also want to make sure that we test those answers against the provisions in the agreement. i've been reviewing for example, the classified annex about our capability of determining if iran cheats and of course how we would handle not just major violations liken rich 789ment which would be easy to detect but the weaponization work that would be harder to detect and harder to prove if it was going to be the subject of snapback sanctions. >> adam schiff the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee going to have a lo t to say about whether this rises or falls. thank you. appreciate you rushing back for us. the fbi director's blunt assessment of isis versus al qaeda. that's coming up next. you're watching msnbc. can a business have a mind? a subconscious.
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hey, everyone, i'm alex witt in for thomas roberts. we have bricking breaking news. any moment donald trump is expected to land in laredo texas, and tour the border with a speech at 4:00 p.m. eastern. however, the latest episode in this rolling soap opera began just a short time ago. a chapter of a local union representing border agents pulled out of the trump event. the chapter president says it made the decision after consulting with official on the national level. here's a portion of tump's response. quote, it is unfortunate the local union ofrd whoer patrol agents received pressure at a snshl level not to participant and it patly pulled out today's event. they are being silenced and are very unhappy about it as told directly to mr. trump. just to reiterate, that is trump's claim. the u.s. congressman representing laredo and here's what democratic congressman had to say about the