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border patrol and law enforcement to show up here when i know it wasn't that easy to show up here, you had certain pressures, for you to show up here is a real honor i will not forget. i will not forget. thank you, thank you very much. i don't think that people understand the danger you're under and the talent you have but i understand it we're going to go back to new york, the press has been amazing, we really appreciate, the turnout of press has been incredible. people realize the problem we have in this country with illegal immigration. and it's going solved, it's going to be fixed. this group will do such a job, if they're allowed to do their job, there's no doubt in anybody's mind it will be taken care of. so -- >> you know by the way -- such
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a great relationship with the hispanics. very interestingly in nevada for those of you who didn't heard, they did a poll, i'm leading -- not only am i leading by a lot in the poll, almost more important to me i employ hundreds -- i employ thousands of hispanics, over the years tens of thousands, i'm leading in the poll by a landslide with the hispanics, which is it a great honor for me. >> did you know 53,000 hispanics -- >> yeah. >> the united states 54 million hispanic. >> right. >> i feel that what you said when you said that the people across the border are rapists and murderers. >> we're talking about illegal immigration. that's a typical case. wait that's a typical case of the press with misinterpretation.
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they take a half percentage [ cheers and applause ] . >> by the way, they take a half a sentence a quarter of a sentence, they put it all together. it's a typical thing, and you with telemundo, and telemundo should be ashamed. what's really going to be fun, i'm suing univision for $500 million. we're going to win a lot of money because of what they do. i want to thank you. >> no no you're finished. you've obviously been -- i just want to thank again. this is about you it's not about me. law enforcement, border patrol. all of you folks for being here this was a special stop, i heard you were here, i wanted to come and see you. thank you, we love you. >> what do you -- >> to the border patrol. and to law enforcement, thank you. thank you.
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>> not being able to do their job. >> we've been listening to donald trump there in laredo texas, where he's wrapped up a tour of the u.s. mexico border. trump was asked if he saw evidence to back up his statements that mexico is sending its criminals over the border? >> yes, i have and i heard it, and i heard it from a lot of different people. the border patrol invited me. they cancelled. they don't want to get involved. the reason they invited me was because of the tremendous problem and the tremendous crime. at the last moment we were virtually in the air. they said we want get involved. i heard they got those orders from washington. >> trump referring to the cancellation hours before his arrival. just before beginning his border trump told reporters he was making the trip at great risk to his own safety. >> people are saying, oh, it's
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so dangerous what you're doing mr. trump. i have to do it, i have to do it. >> i want to bring in our panel now, executive editor of first look media eric bates. kaitlyn byrnes and evan smith. thank you for joining us. we saw the very tail end of -- i was wondering your initial reaction to trump's brief statements there? >> certainly he's achieving whatever he wants to achieve, i think he's doing that he had all of the national press down there, everybody kind of paying attention to him, he was able to get away with not really saying anything about policy, though he was asked about it. he doesn't say anything about what he would want to do with the undocumented here now. just talked about a wall. if you're looking at what he wanted to accomplish i think he achieved that. >> he seems to be the kind of candidate on this particular
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issue on immigration not discussing policy, discussing problem. i walked away from that not getting any sense of what he wants to do about this visit there, that he walked away with any possible solutions. >> trump is not going anywhere near anything of substance. his job right now as he sees it is to get attention. he's been, from the moment he declared really remarkable at that job. the other thing striking about the bit that we just heard was the reaction of the audience when he bashed the media that was really the most raucous moment of the press conference. his supporters were clearly most thrilled by that. and that's a card that he's playing again and again to great effect. >> is he in the driver's seat here? does he command, when he holds these types of events, when he goes down there? does he command attention on what he's saying or just by virtue of the grandstanding that we were just hearing about? >> well, the latter, we're talking about him. there's plenty of other news in the state of texas, let alone news not in the state of texas that we're not talking about.
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he's a magnet for attention, he wants attention, he's getting attention, we're complicit in his getting attention, i'm talking about him. i thought the point earlier that there wasn't a lot of substance made is irrelevant. he said that laredo is dangerous, he was told it was dangerous, and he was going there anyway. if you look at the crime rate per 100,000 residents, his own home city of new york, is more dangerous that than laredo. if he's concerned about danger, i guess we'll have to keep him here in texas new york is more dangerous than laredo. i want to bring in casey trump she's been traveling with trump all throughout the day. casey, give us a sense of what the day's been like for donald trump. what has he seen, heard, and said about what he has observed down there? >> well i hope you can forgive the noise we're in the crush of
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a crowd. this has been like following a presidential candidate around. the laredo police have come out in force to close down the highways. help export trump around there was a long line of semitractor trailers backed up going over the bridge. they had shut down all traffic across, while they let mr. trump do his event. they've been speeding through the city, trying to follow them, kind of similar, the last time i remember doing something like that was with m.i.t. romney he was the nominee with secret service protection. trump has been light on specifics while repeating a lot of the rhetoric that he's had about illegal immigration. about undocumented immigrants coming into the united states. he's been very aggressive in going after the press. jose diaz tried to ask him a question about his comments that he made. very aggressively said, the press is misinterpreting my
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comments and this is what's wrong with the country. wouldn't really date further than that and got tears from the crowd that he had assembled here at this last event. i tried to ask him what he would do with the 11 million undocumented immigrants that are already in the country. and he refused to answer that question as well. saying the border needs to be concerned first, his friends, he's proposing to build a wall that the mexican government should pay for. >> thank you for that update. we heard casey talking about the points we've been making not a lot of substance in terms of solving the immigration problem. the point that he keeps saying over and over again he has the support of the hispanic community or the latin voight. do you see that? or is he just -- do you see anything to support that claim? >> what i think is so interesting about that trump's never run for office before, there's no way to assess how he would get that part of the vote.
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and the republican party i think why they are especially concerned about this i mean, he's also already threatening a third party run is that they wanted to get away from this kind of language. they actively tried to limit the number of debates, people on the debate stage wanted to talk and expand the party, bring a bigger constituency in and this threatens that. >> the point that kaitlyn brought up about the third party is obviously a major cause of concern for the republicans, if he stays in the race, he's going to be a force within the republican party, if he decides to run as a third party candidate. he's more likely going to splinter the republican vote he's going to have on the democratic side. >> absolutely either way, staying in or running third party, he's dramatically shifted the tone and the nature of the republican race in a way that's not to the republican's advantage, they don't have an answer yet for what to do about that, that's the nature of
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democracy, and it's the nature of the democracy that's driven by money. he can afford to say what he wants and do what he wants. >> there's the discussion that trump, even though he's not discussing specific policy or politics. he is putting immigration at the forefront of the national debate. even by going down there. it has us talking about the immigration, is that an added benefit of his presence in this race? >> the benefit we're talking about immigration, it's not an added benefit we're not saying anything meaningful about it. this is about politics and not policy. he says that latino voters are going to be with him, and he'll be able to win latino voters, it's not outside the realm of possibility that a republican candidate who takes a hard position on immigration will win the votes of latinos. the occurrence republican govger in of texas got 44% of the latino vote which is fairly high in texas over the years
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you have to go back to the early george bush days to find a republican who's getting those kind of votes maybe he's right, maybe if he talks tougher, he will get a higher percentage of the latino vote we all assume, the point that there's no evidence of that can't be denied. >> as we always say, we're going to have to wait and see what happens next. eric, i'm going to ask you to stick to join us for some of the other discussions. after the break, fireworks on capitol hill. marco rubio and john kerry spar over the iran nuclear deal. bill cosby could be forced to testify in in the next 30 days on a 1994 sexual assault. and a major victory for fast food workers here. all that ahead on now. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day.
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selling the deal, that's the effort now on capitol hill. for u.s. secretary of state john kerry, alongside the treasury. they all spent time taking questions. they told kerry he had been fleeced and bam booze elled. secretary kerry flamed the high stakes like this. >> president obama has made it crystal clear that we will never accept the nuclear arms -- iran now has -- we don't like it whether we like it or not, iran has developed experience with a nuclear fuel cycle. they have developed the ability to produce the material for
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bomb. we can't bomb that knowledge away. >> in one of the more combative encounters, that happened with senator marco rubio if u.s. rejected that deal, the opportunity to negotiation with the u.s. may never come again. >> this is a deal whose survivor is not guaranteed beyond the term of the current president. this deal is fundamentally flawed, it weakens our national security. throughout this process, by the way, this administration in my opinion is repeatedly capitulated on some important items. >> we don't lose anything here. the way we lose is by rejecting the deal. >> if you think the ayatollah's going to come back and negotiate again with an american, that's fantasy. >> congress has less than two months to review the deal, president obama has said he would veto the bill if in fact it was approved by congress, essentially rejecting this iran
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deal. >> joining me now is luke russert russert. luke, let me start with you, and walk us through some of the fault lines in congress. is this deal going to get past? where do you potentially see any problems on capitol hill for the president? >> let's start with the second part of that question. i think the biggest problems that the president will face will really be this congressional recess, that's when some of the outside groups that oppose this deal are going to mobilize. nancy pelosi said she's expecting tens of millions of dollars to be put into advertisements, put into plants at different town halls and rallies against this deal in an effort to try to really rattle some of the democratic members who support this deal is going to need. i think that's sort of the biggest impediment, that and any of these outside deals that have come to light. as of right now, the
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administration says they're classified. i've been up here for about six years, seen a lot of big boats, nancy pelosi told me last week, she's going to lobby for this bill. she rarely loses a vote with her house democratic caucus. i can't remember the last time she did. if she's behind it, there's a chance they'll be able to improve the veto proof majority. >> all you need is one of these chambers to be veto proof and you'll be okay. i think there's a real amount of pressure on chuck schumer the new york senator who's in line to become the majority leader, he's someone that's been coy on where he is in this deal, he's uncomfortable with it if he were to give it the support, there's no way -- >> you brought up a good point there about senator schumer. thousands of people are protesting yesterday precisely, to get his attention about this nuclear deal you can see those pictures. let me ask you in terms of the
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full court press for the administration you have the secretary of state and ernest moniz as well. all of them on the hill today, did they do a good job answering the questions and the legitimate concerns of members of capitol hill? >> great to be with you. they did, and this is a deal that is very good for american national security. this is a deal that's going to block iran from getting a nuclear bomb. that's key. the question is are members of congress open to listening to this? in my experience at the state department that was not always the case, we would see members come into briefings with the closed mind. this deal is going to get through, based on the merits of whether or not democrats will support it i believe they will they are going to have these open discussions, they're taking it seriously, the other side is really rolling the dice on our national security. >> you brought up a good point about the groups that are trying to lobby against this. two that come to mind.
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they have deployed about 300 lobbyists on capitol hill. they're spending close to $20 million directly or indirectly through other groups as well to try to lobby corning. how impactful do you think this lobbying effort is going to be. is it a lost cause from their perspective? >> i think it's the $20 million question, i've been going through some of these house districts to see which democratic members may be vulnerable to this onslaught of attacks or pressure from apac. here's the thing the way the house democratic caucus is made up of right now, is that most of the moderate people who would be very receptive to this they all lost. i mean, that's how well the republicans did in 2014. what you have left is a majority progressive caucus and progresses even those that are usually hospitable to a group like apac, they alert this to
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averting war. the thought of possibly the next administration or something going to war over iran because they didn't take this deal i think they would just assume take this deal and be done with it and that would play better against their constituencies. that's what's going to be interesting to see. whether or not the progressive push back to avert war overtakes the challenge that apac presents. >> luke russert thank you for that. i want you to hang with me in a second. we'll continue this discussion. some in the obama officials lobby a war against iran, other members of the cabinet are now speaking out about another threat. that coming from isis defense secretary ash carter made a surprise visit to iraq today as iraqi officials try to retake the city of ramadi from isis. that fell into the hands of the terrorist group a couple months
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ago. this visit came just hours after james comey called isis a bigger threat to the u.s. national interest than al qaeda. >> what keeps me up at night is probably these days the isil threat in the home land. >> is that now a bigger threat to the u.s. homeland than al qaeda? >> yes. >> they have adopted a model that takes advantage of social media in a way to crowd source terrorism. >> isil is buzzing on your hip. that message is being pushed all day long, if you want to talk to a terrorist, they're right there for you to communicate with. >> joining the discussion now thank you very much for joining us. >> is isis now more of a threat than al qaeda? and if so why? >> it's how you analyze the threat. i believe that isis is today the
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single most dangerous emerging threat that we are facing, it's different from what used to be al qaeda in iraq back in the day. that's not to say that al qaeda is no longer dangerous, it's still dangerous, it's focus is still on targeting western countries, primarily the united states. while isis is more focused on expanding territorially, while attempting to recruit individuals in the west. i believe the director's comment is valid, isis is today the single most dangerous emerging fact that we're taking. >> talk about the secretary of defense's visit to iraq. this potential ground operation is extremely significant. we heard from the chief of staff martin dempsey who said at the time losing ramadi was not symbolic in anyway. i wanted to get your sense does the u.s. have a clear strategy here in terms of defeating isis when it comes to iraq
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specifically? >> it does, and working closely with the iraqi government is central to this. there are forces on the ground in iraq like the occurreds that can help. the iraqi state needs to be together, and that means the u.s. with the central government, there's a bit of an irony here and disconnect with what is happening in washington. the obama administration -- congress does not want to take that up. they go not want to vote for war. they do want to vote on blocking a nuclear deal. one that would prevent a war. there's a serious disconnect the administration is very active on iraq nonetheless. >> there have been a few public indications now, steven walt wrote a piece about whether or not you can live with harvard. the new york times had a piece as well, talking about outlining isis' success. do you see a scenario in which by isis can remain on the ground
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where it is today and it becomes a new reality in terms of not trying to destroy it, but accepting it for its presence in those two countries, iraq and syria? >> i certainly hope not. for the people of iraq and syria, this is a nightmare, but this is a long fight, one that's going to take a significant amount of time. clearly the direct threat to americans from the propaganda it is significant. the territory gain by isis that will be hard to take back. it's going to take real effort and partnership with forces on the ground in addition to the ongoing air strikes. but it will take time. >> we heard the fbi director make reference to the fact that isis uses social media and reaches you everywhere. you follow this very closely. what efforts are there underway now to try to stop that social media recruitment? >> that our efforts on
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governments, their efforts as grassroots, we see that the u.s. government and other governments efforts to combat isis online has really failed, we have not seen anything successful, the tweets remain well over 100 a day. they remain recruiting individuals in the west. that's not really being diminished, to combat isis effectively, we need grassroots campaigns that are popping up on the ground in iraq and syria, and the general countries in the middle east, who would combat isis with its own ideology. to pin down certain inter interpretations of sharia law they are utilizing in their propaganda and try to rebut el that, this would be one of the main effective tools of isis. >> thank you both for joining us on this discussion. coming up authorities in texas delivered the official autopsy results for sandra bland after the break. you do all this research on the perfect car. gas mileage , horse power... torque ratios. three spreadsheets later you finally bring home the one. then smash it into a tree.
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examener's office has listed the cause of death as hanging, and the manner of death as a suicide. >> moments ago, the district attorney's office held a news conference to provide autopsy results in the death of sarn dra planned. the manner of death was found to be suicide. she was found hanged in her jail cell last week after being arrested days earlier at a traffic stop. she tested positive for marijuana in her system in a voice mail obtained by ktrk, she phoned a friend on her first night in jail. >> i'm at a loss for words about this whole process, how they're switching lanes with no signal turned into all of this. >> newly released documents showed that earlier that day, bland told jail officials she had tried to kill herself in 2014 after losing a baby she
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was not suicidal on that day. joy reid joins me from hempstead, texas. >> what did we learn from today's news conference? >> good afternoon. these were the preliminary findings in the autopsy that was conducted by the harris county medical examiner on sandra bland. essentially what they were doing was confirming some of the reports we heard leaked in the media. they ruled the death a suicide, they also discussed the reasons they believe the evidence points toward suicide. they said they were consistent not with a struggle they did not find any marks on her body or injuries to her body that were consistent with a struggle or a homicide. but that were consistent with a hanging by suicide. they also showed the plastic bag that they said was the source of the ligature marks. additional testing will be done
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on the plastic bag. they have a confirm tory result that said that there was thc or marijuana in her system. the next round of tests will determine the quantity of it there were questions from members of the media including myself, about how they could determine, how long and how much was in her system, whether or not it makes sense that three days after her arrest was there. >> one quick thing the family plans to bury sandra on saturday, the d.a.'s office says they will not stand in the way they're not asking for her body back. >> thank you very much for that update. just ahead bill cosby could be forced to speak about one sexual assault allegation that is facing him. we'll explain next on now. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪
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the panel paved the way for the lawsuit. she claims cosby molested her at the playboy mansion when she was 15 years old. gloria allred said she would seek to question cosby as soon as possible within the next 30 days. more than 30 women have accused the comedian of sexual assault. yesterday cosby attorney was questioned on the allegations. >> all of these women are liars? >> i'm not making conclusions, and you know i can't about whether someone is lying or not. what i am saying is that mr. cosby has denied the accusations that have been lodged thus far. the sheer volume or number of people who are saying a particular thing does not make it true. >> cosby has denied the allegations in the past, and has not been charged with any crime so far. joining me now is criminal defense attorney john burr, columnist for the daily beast,
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and host of a sirius xm show. let me start with you john, and talk about this strategy for a moment, which is to defend the qualude use, even though cosby himself was not taking them. talk to us about that as a legal defense strategy. >> basically, he's saying he did not commit the crime, the fact that he committed and bought quaalude in and of itself that doesn't mean he injected them for purposes of having sex with them. i mean, it's sort of -- you know, a defense, the other side of it is that the kind of evidence can be used against him, as evidence of a common plan or scheme to those women who think that's happened to them. as a challenging evidence for him to overcome for him of course, he's basically saying i didn't do, i didn't use these -- bye these drugs for purposes of
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giving them to women who would falsely give sex to him that's his defense that's going to be a challenge for him to maintain if in fact his deposition is taken, which is going to happen very soon he may be placed in a position where he's going to have to get testimony about all these different women who have made allegations against them. including those who have been drugged. he's in a very difficult position right now. >> here's what bill cosby's lawyer said about cosby's affairs to the new york times. i don't understand why that's news. a man having an affair or two or 20, even extra marital affairs to me is not news, it's history. >> yeah, the problem is a man raping nearly 40 women or sexually assaulting them in some form is news, and the fact that that man was america's favorite dad makes this something that we absolutely should be talking about, he doesn't get an excuse for this simply because he's a celebrity, that's completely
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ridiculous. >> allegedly rape. he hasn't been charged. >> the thing is, he hasn't been charged, i believe women when they say these kinds of things happen to them. the benefit of the doubt usually lies with men. we ask women to justify what's happened to them, i work from the presumption they're telling the truth. he has a lot more to lose than they do. >> being the fact that he is america's favorite father. the cosby show really changed a lot of america's understanding what it meant to be a middle class african-american family here in the u.s. is that going to be tarnished what the show did? not what he's done, what the show did in terms of the understanding in america is that going to be tarnished by what happens to bill cosby one way or the other? >> i think bill cosby's tarnished forever, you don't think comedian cosby show, you think rapist, you can say alleged rapist. i believe the women as well. i interviewed the first victim on the time line, i believe her
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100% on this case. we used to say we need an arab cosby show so people will like us. now, you say, we need an arab cosby show people are like no we don't. bill cosby's legacy will be forever tarnished. the show's legacy was groundbreaking. it showed the black community, an image they had not seen. they were not portrayed as mads clowns or criminals. it's groundbreaking, it will never be lost. cosby is gone forever. >> let me talk to you about this strategy, we were talking about a legal strategy there's also the pr strategy the public image strategy component to this. is this a point cosby could come out and make an apology as part of the pr strategy? would that change any dynamic on the ground right now? >> absolutely not. no, there's no apology that he can give that would have any particular meaning. now he's in a position where he's caught up in a legal case,
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if i'm his lawyer, i would not have him make any kind of statements as of now. he's going to have to make and fight this out on legal grounds. if he makes those public statements, those can be used against him. i think a jury would be more inclined to rule against him and give punitive damages. i think it's best he makes no further statements. there's nothing he can gain now, the damage has already been done. all they can really do now is fight this matter out and make sure he doesn't say anything that could ultimately result in a criminal charge against him. that's the part that i would be concerned about if i was his lawyer, not to make public statements that could ultimately find its way in a criminal case, and you then have perjury as a possible charge against you that could bring all this up again. the best thing to do is not try to do the pr thing right now. i don't think it was a smart
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thing to you for the lawyer to get out and make statements. it sounded kind of foolish, in many ways by saying he had extra marital affairs. you were having sex with women against their will by drugging them. it has nothing to do with extra marital affairs. the best thing now is to keep quiet and follow through. >> very quickly here finally to the point of the issue of legacy, this show changed so much in america, at least in terms of the understanding. going-forward, what is the strategy for someone like bill cosby. >> i have no investment in him having any strategy at all. these women deserve this moment, they have leved with the trauma of what he did to them for decades. i hate that he has tarnished the legacy of the cosby show. i love the cosby show. violence against women is not acceptable in this culture, no matter who does it, that may
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mean it costs us the love and joy we get from watching that show. >> finally, one last question in terms of the impact that this has had right now on the discussion we're having here. these women -- alleged victims victims, whatever you want to call it, what is justice for them going to look like going-forward? >> when i interviewed christine for the daily beast what do you want? i want people to know what bill cosby did to us. we want him to be remembered as the rapist, not the comedian. it's about power and powerlessness, the idea that the power is being taken away from him and given back to the women, that's where it belongs. >> thank you for all of that. coming up, fast food workers are about to have it their way. big news in the fight for living wage, that story is just ahead. i already feel like we're the most connected but i think this solo date will seal the deal. sure! i offer multi-car, safe driver,
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the national movement to raise the minimum wage just scored its biggest victory yet. any day now, new york state is expected to order an increase in minimum wage to $15 for all fast food workers. now, the pay hike will be phased in gradually over the next few years and will increase faster in new york city. it will mean a pay hike of more
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than 70%. yesterday, los angeles announced its own 50 dollar wage floor. bernie sanders introduced federal increase to $15 an hour. the highest minimum wage hike ever. back with me now, is eric bates. and joining the discussion is senior fellow at the budget and priorities. back in 2013 president obama had called for an increase of the mihm wage to $9 an hour inform 2013. he announced support for a bill that would have raised it to 1010 an hour. can we see this move on a federal level across the
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country? >> i think the reason we're here today is because there's been no action at the federal level. by the way, most recently there's been a proposal to raise the federal minimum wage to $12 an hour. these proposals keep coming up congress is so gridlocked they're not moving at all. we have an economic recovery in its sixth year, and yet there are many notice low wage sector who have been left behind. if you ask them how the recovery is doing, some are going to scratch their head and say, it doesn't look like much of a recovery to me. interestingly local actors, state governments, but in this case a labor board have been responding to their claims which i think are accurate claims that this growth hasn't reached them, and have moved to increase their pay, it's part of a longer term movement where we see now something like 29 states and the district attorney of columbia have minimum wages higher than the federal level. >> i want to put this full screen up here. and show you some of these cities. seattle has a $15 minimum wage.
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san jose $11. washington, d.c., $11.95. . would you say this represents a major shift of the democratic party toward this particular policy shown on the local minimum wage? >> certainly at the local and state level. what's needed is to increase the wage so the values don't go down, you look at the last time the minimum wage was raised in 2009 it's fallen 8% since then. those workers have 8% less purchasing power than they did in 2009. cities and states know it's good for the economy. the money goes back out into the economy, gets circulated and it raises all votes. >> you bring up the point of the circulation back into the economy. let me ask you about that. this has been divided along party lines with the exception of a few individuals here and there. what do you make of the gop
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argument that a higher minimum wage is going to lead to more layoffs, companies are not going to be able to afford employees and pay for that kind of salary? >> because we've had so many of these local and state level increases, we have something that's really pretty unique in empirical economics. that's the analysis of that question you just mentioned. we're able to look at the impact of the minimum wage increase which happens to be right next to place a and b. we're able to evaluate quite carefully with unique statistical precision that claim, and it has been consistently found to be untrue. the minimum wage actually, this increase is one of these policies that is quite simple and sends to have its intended effect. it lifts the workers with not very much in terms of unintended consequences of the type that conservatives and opponents raise. >> let me ask you this point about hillary clinton and her
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comments. we'll put up this quote from her about the $15 minimum wage. she actually opposes it i support the local efforts, democratic supporters of increasing the minimum wage are trying to debate and determine what the national floor is, there are different economic environments and what you do in l.a. or new york may not work in other places. is that economically accurate? do we know if in fact we do it in one city or state it cannot be done across the board? >> are you asking me? >> i'm asking eric. >> we've been raising the minimum wage since the 1930s. we've done it over and over in the same voices and same quarters have raised the same objections over and over, and the world hasn't fallen apart when it's happened one region hasn't faired better than the other when it's happened. it helps everyone when the federal government sets that as a baseline not only minimum wage workers but all other workers. >> very well said, and i'll just
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add this, i don't think it's accurate to say that secretary clinton opposes i think what she's saying is that 15 isn't necessarily the correct level for the national minimum wage, but it's going to be absolutely a sound level in some of the places particularly those with higher prices and higher wage bases. >> jared, thank you very much. certainly something we're going to be following as well in the coming months. we'll have more after the break. towards the promise of a better existence. but these birds are suffering. because this better place turned out to have an unreliable cell phone network and the videos on their little bird phones kept buffering. birds hate that. so they came back home. because they get $300 from switching back to verizon. and so can you! verizon, come home to a better network. ♪ ♪ one day a rider made a decision. the decision to ride on and save money.
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