i'm down with crestor! make your move. ask your doctor about crestor. did you know that meeting your daily protein needs actually helps to support your muscle health? boost® high protein nutritional drink can help you get the protein you need. each serving has 15 grams of protein to help maintain muscle, plus 26 vitamins and minerals including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones. boost® high protein is the #1 selling high protein complete nutritional drink and it has a great taste-guaranteed! help get the nutrition you need everyday with boost® high protein. join the club at brandpower.com.

historic visit. president obama answers tough questions in kenya and highlights how personal this overseas trip is for him. rally in iowa. presidential contender donald trump takes his show to the hawkeye state. we'll get the latest in a live report. breaking news on hillary clinton and the benghazi committee. a new report today suggesting when and how she will testify. will it be public? plus a number one, the staggering amounts of money generated by air carriers from those baggage fees. you won't believe the numbers. high noon in the east 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to weekends with alex wit. president obama making the case for gay rights with his historic trip to ten ya. >> and as an african-american in the united states i campaignfully aware of the history of what happens when

people are treated differently under the law. the die that they are going to be treated differently or abused because of who they love is wrong. the state does not need to weigh in on religious doctrine. the state just has to say "we're going to treat everybody equally under the law." >> he made those comments during a news conference a short time ago with the kenyan president who himself said gay rights is a non-issue at that moment in the country. senior white house correspondent chris chris jansing is in nairobi. how is the president's message received and what is the significance of it given president kenyatta's stance on gay rights? >> i think as you saw president kenyatta was not moved but the point was to influence the people of kenya and across africa and i think that's why you heard him speak in such personal terms. he's extremely popular here

they consider him royalty. a poll in the spring showed he had an 80% approval rating. that's the number of people in ken ya who thought he wanted to do what was right by them. he was warned by leaders here who got it out in public that he should leave alone the issue of gay rights he said it anyway. if i can put it into context. in 2013 he was in senegal and chastised the countries who have made homosexuality illegal. most of the countries here on the african continent. and the pushback was, look we've abolish it had death penalty, you have the death penalty. these are cultural differences, don't try to impose your western mores on us. but he sent the message that this is bornt and he's hoping that slowly he recognizes it's not going to change overnight but by speaking out he can can change minds here. >> you make a good point there. chris, what about the president's get together that he had with his family last night?

>> well that was a surprise to all of us i think. we thought maybe half a dozen, maybe 10 12 people might come then it turns out to be three dozen. we recognized the people on either side of him that is his step grandmother who is known by everybody here as mama sara and he's very close to his half sister. but all the other folks -- well i think his half sister alma may have had the toughest job here because she had to kind of negotiate all the people who said "i'm related to him, i want to come." i think we have sound of him talking about that. >> there are cousins and uncles and aunties that show up that you didn't know existed. but you're always happy to meet them. that's partly what i had to explain was begging forgiveness that once i'm a private citizen i l have more freedom to

reconnect. >> i'm guessing one of the people he asked for forgiveness was for mama sara. she told the press before she left the small village where president obama's father was born and is buried that she was going to try to convince him to come back this time and, of course, the logistics and the security involved in a presidential visit made that impossible. but we got a glimpse of what he plans to do in his post-presidency. he talked about the foundation he would set up, the philanthropy he would do. he promised to come back to kenya. he talked about places where there is extreme poverty he would like to help but he said he would be coming back not wearing that suit, alex. >> he can't get away from politics, whether it's on capitol hill or with the family dinner table. it's kind of funny. let's move quickly, though, i want to sweechitch gears to the "wall street journal" report that the "wall street journal" will release convicted israeli spy jonathan pollard from prison. what is the significance of that this and what are you hearing from government officials about

it? >> government officials reacted very quickly to that report, alex alex, because what was said is the reason he would be released early is because they were trying to appease the israeli government which of course, is very unhappy with the u.s. push to get the iran nuclear deal through congress. so they've said he was sentenced to 30 years, he served almost 30 years, he would have gotten out in november anyway that was from the national security council. the folks from the department of justice said to us and other folks, look we always said he was going to serve 30 years, nothing has changed in that. but we -- they also believe a that if he gets let out a few months early he will have still served that term and said again, unequivocally "we don't want anyone to think there is anything behind this. we're not doing this to make nice with israel." alex? >> chris jansing in nairobi, kenya. thank you so much, chris. breaking news on msnbc. hillary clinton will testify before the house benghazi committee on october 22.

her presidential campaign made the announcement a little over an hour ago. let's get the latest from msnbc.com senior editor and also "washington post" senior correspondent karen d. young. karen, for the nuts and bolts, the "washington post" was the first to report on this story. what do we know? >> well we know that she's going to testify on october 22 in a public hearing. this is -- this is kind of the longest-running story in the world. she has offered for a long time to testify. the republican majority of the committee wanted first for her to give a close-door deposition. she said "if i'm going to talk i'm going to talk in public." it's been scheduled and canceled several times. her campaign has accused the committee of dragging this out so that it starts to impact on her presidential campaign. the committee has said look we can't talk to you until we have

all the information, all the e-mails, everything that happened surrounding benghazi so they finally settled on a date and that is october 22. >> october, karen deyoung, thank you so much for giving us the latest just coming in via the "washington post." let's move to you, beth. what should we expect from this highly anticipated hearing. this is like the longest-running story ever. >> it is the longest-running story ever and she's already testified on capitol hill about benghazi. she testified to the house and senate formulations committee in 2013. this is well-trod ground certainly up on the hill. but as you know alex this is a big political boogie monster on the republican side. they are convinced that the state department at hillary clinton's leadership and that hillary clinton herself did not respond adequately to the threat that those diplomats face there in besz.nghazi. they'll continue to bang that horn until they can no longer.

it's republicans who are obsessed with this issue quite frankly and the secretary who says this is done we're over with, let's move on. it's just coming a couple -- three months before the first presidential primaries. she's in the thick of a presidential campaign so it adds more drama to the whole matter. the other drama is the fact she has disclosed she had a private e-mail server while secretary of state and i'm certain we'll hear republicans suggesting that she was -- she did that to shield her e-mails from the kind of juteny that the benghazi committee wants to put them under. >> why, though the difference in terms of how this comes about, whether it's public or not? because the benghazi committee chair trey gowdy wanted a private interview. clinton team wants it public. why is that? >> absolutely. because that way everyone can see how the questioning is going. it would not be -- if she testified privately, the committee would come out, tray gowdy would come out and characterize it in his own language, in his own words and would not necessarily present her testimony that favorably or

that fairly. so the clinton campaign believes probably rightly so that everybody should be able to see this so they can see exactly what she says and exactly how the republicans on the committee respond to her. and then look at this hearing, it's about a year or so, just a little over from election day so the impact it could have is what? >> you know it's unclear to me that there will be much of an impact. the people who care most about this issue -- obviously it as a tragedy, four americans lost their lives and there's been a number of investigations into why that happened so not to belittle any of this but in terms of a political matter republicans who are obsessed with this issue won't vote for hillary clinton anyway. so the question is does this affect people who are undecided about her candidacy, might be persuaded one way or the other? unclear. none of the polling has shown that, that the benghazi matter has a big impact on those voters who are still trying to make up their minds. certainly, you know liberal democrats, loyal democrats are saying that the secretary bears no responsibility here outside of what she's already discussed

and that it's time to move on and look at other issues. >> msnbc senior editor beth fouhy. thank you so much for that. donald trump is holding a rally in the nation's heartland. the 2016 front-runner -- at least in some polls -- is on the campaign trail in iowa. but not there to cover this event is the "des moines register." that's because the trump campaigned banned it. let's find out what that's about. katy tur is joining us. what happened with the "des moines register"? >> well, the "des moines register's" editorial board did a scathing editorial asking donald trump to drop out of the race saying he was bloviating and turning the race into a circus and not focusing on the important issues the american public needs to focus on for this next presidential election. trump pretty much immediately responded calling them the things that he calls them. and for this event they decided to ban the "des moines

register." they can still be outside talking to people, they can see the feed of what's going on on television, they can probe even walk in there if there were a little sneaky. for all intents and purposes they have been officially banned. the trump campaign has threatened this in the past toor reporters when they haven't fallen in line with the message they're trying to get out there. so it could be a message "we want you guys to be telling everyone how big our crowds are and how many supporters we have." and they do get big crowds out here. the line outside is quite long. people wait for hours to get into these events and there is a spillover but the there's also the other side of the coin where there's -- usually not here so much but in the past there's been protesters and people angry about his visits. the more interesting point, alex, is that every time he goes to a campaign event something happens. either gives away lindsey graham's phone number, calls

john mccain a not a war hero. now today he's banned "des moines register." so he knows in order to get away with something and, he needs to get away with something people talk about and banning the "des moines register" will get interest on what would otherwise be a dull campaign stop. >> his critics say he is a showman. even those who support him say he's a showman. he's a reality tv star. is he aware, though, that banning the whole des moines trej sister register is like throwing out the baby with the bath water in that the editorial board is separate? it's not the reporters, the editorial board is a separate entity. >> i know. he knows that. he's not a dumb man, he's a very intelligent man and he understands the editorial board is separate from the or arers but he wants the headlines and this is how you get the headlines and not everyone will be for your campaign not everyone will agree with your ideals and the question people -- that concerns people if they're looking at it

critically is that if he gets to the white house and doesn't like what someone is saying will he try and silence them? if you talk to people outside and ask them about the "des moines register" banning they say "good, we don't like the "des moines register," we don't think they're reporting fairly." and that's one of the things trump keeps hitting over and over again. the press is lying, reporters are dishonest, other politicians are lying, i'm the one telling you the truth because i'm not beholden to anybody. i'm not beholden to special interests, i'm not going to take their money, so listen to america i'm telling the truth, everybody is else is full of it if you will. >> okay. well katy tur, you're doing a great job covering him so i thought you should know that. thank you for that report. other news now, turkish jets hitting targets in iraq and syria. they've also struck kurdish militant camps in northern iraq. militants have been fighting isis and making gains and the statement says the planes hit kurdish shelters bunkers, storage facilities and other logistic points. police in hot springs, arkansas, are investigating the death of a two-year-old found

inside a hot car. when are we going to stop telling these stories, right? a neighbor says the father of the child drove to a neighbor's house in order to get help after realizing what happened. >> he's driven home left the baby in the car. forgot the baby was in the car for hours. >> emergency crews responded to the scene, they were not able to revive that child. the arkansas state crime lab is examining the body of the infant to determine the exact cause of death. now to the weather. in hawaii dangerous waves are expected there. jen far kagcarfagno is here to tell us about that. >> the sunshine state not seeing too much sunshine. showers and storms and one thing you'll hear about is that it has the chance of spurring tropical activity on it in the coming days and even into next week. so that's something that we'll

give you a hesds upads up on. but regardless of what happens to that, we have a front and some can be heavy at times. inches of rain possible there. storms are possible as well across the northern plains and parts of the upper midwest again. we have the red zone stretching from the trail iscentral plains into the great lakes region. chicago, detroit, indiana, st. louis, kansas city all could see storms that could be fierce. damaging winds and rain, the threat of hail as well and a very isolated but not zero tornado threat across the area. then we have the heat and we have a lot of heat south of that big area of storms. the heat is on going. we're going to be watching for temperatures and it feels like to be above the century mark for days. right through the weekend across the area. the other interesting story is actually in hawaii. from a storm off the coast of new zealand which is 4,500 miles away from hawaii sent a swell all the way up here that is going to kick up the surf six to ten feet with high surf advisory through the weekend into monday.

that's the latest on your weather update. back to you. >> jen carfagno thank you for that. the similarities between the louisiana movie theater shooting and the shooting in colorado three years ago this month. could this have been a copycat? and within the hour we have new 911 tapes from the night of that incident. that's next. plus this. >> candidates are feeling like they're facing a manure spreader in a wind storm. more where that came from. here dan rather's unique assess of donald trump and what his candidacy means for the rest of the republican field in the race for president. shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. to everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you. make sure your doctor hears you too! i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with diabetic nerve pain. if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, don't suffer in silence! step on up and ask your doctor

about diabetic nerve pain. tell 'em cedric sent you. the kids are asleep. look what i got. oh my froot loops! [sniffs] let's do this? get up! get up! get up! get up! loop me! bring back the awesome yeah! yeah! yeah! with the great taste of kellogg's froot loops. follow your nose! everyone loves the picture i posted of you. at&t reminds you it can wait. [ school bell rings ] ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] everything kids touch at school sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. you handle

life; clorox handles the germs. hey terry stop they have a special! so, what did you guys think of the test drive? i love the jetta. but what about a deal? terry, stop! it's quite alright... ok, you know what? we want to make a deal with you. we're twins, so could you give us two for the price of one? come on, give us a deal. look at how old i am. do you come here often? he works here, terry! you work here, right? yes... ok let's get to the point. we're going to take the deal. get a $1000 volkswagen reward card on select 2015 jetta models or lease a 2015 jetta s for $139 a month after $1000 volkswagen bonus.

well today a moment to remember those killed in louisiana's theater shooting.

at the lafayette farmers market the bell rang 11 times to honor those killed and wounded. the ceremony came as new information about the gunman was revealed. documents say the shooter had a history of erratic behavior and hospitalizations for mental conditions. two people were killed, nine wounded in thursday's attack before the gunman took his own life. thursday's shooting was the third mass shooting in this country in just over four weeks. a total of 18 people died in those three attacks. nbc's craig melvin is in lafayette, louisiana, for us this afternoon and, craig, with a welcome to you. we are just getting audiotape with emergency dispatchers being called to the scene. the 911 tapes. >> the scene here as you might imagine, alex quite chaotic thursday around 7:30. the movie had just started and all of a sudden a guy stands up starts shooting doesn't say

anything and we know right now there were these two heroic teachers. one teacher jumped in different of another to save a life and the other, despite being shot in the leg, managed to pull the fire alarm. law enforcement says that most certainly saved lives. here's a snippet of one of those 911 calls. take a listen. >> be advised they're inside the theater now. there is one person outside that they said we could go to. that they hadn't given us a clear for the inside yet. >> 10-4. one outside. is the scene safe completely? >> >>. >> they said they're still securing the inside of the building. they said we can handle the one on the outside. >> we believe that person on the outside was the aforementioned teacher who was shot in the leg. within the past hour we've

learned that funeral services for 21-year-old mayci breaux will be held on monday at 11:00 a.m. here. she was a nursing student. she was studying x-rays. the 33-year-old who was killed here, jillian johnson, was a fixture in the local arts community. she started an all-women's bluegrass country band. she opened a clothing boutique with her husband. those are the two lives lost. meanwhile, the investigation, alex, as you know continues. they are talking to -- law enforcement officials are talking to folks who may have interacted with the shooter in the last few days of his life but, again, he's been reported to be a drifter. we know he lived in a nearby motel 6 for at least three weeks prior to the shooting. the police chief said in a news conference yesterday it appears as if he was casing the joint, so to speak. by that i mean he'd been to the theet err few times, he'd been walking around lafayette. no one has been able to tell us why lafayette.

that's one of the outstanding questions. he had no family. we don't believe he had friends here. that's one of the major questions that they're still trying to get answered. i can also tell you that former florida congressman alan west and ted nugent were just on site a short time ago. in our next hour i'll tell you what they had to say about all of this. >> see you then. thank you so much craig melvin in lafayette. crumbling roads and the toll they're taking on your car and wallet. how we're all paying the price.

push your enterprise and you can move the world. but to get from the old way to the new you'll need the right it infrastructure. from a partner who knows how to make your enterprise more agile, borderless and secure. hp helps business move on all the possibilities of today. and stay ready for everything that is still to come. everyone's raving! age defy from clairol the secret? superior gray coverage that leaves hair looking 10 years younger age defy from clairol

flo: hey, big guy. i heard you lost a close one today. look, jamie, maybe we weren't the lowest rate this time. but when you show people their progressive direct rate and our competitors' rates you can't win them all. the important part is, you helped them save. thanks, flo. okay, let's go get you an ice cream cone, champ. with sprinkles? sprinkles are for winners. i understand. rough roads, high-flying fees and wealthy wedded bliss. it's time for today's number ones. a new study says more than a quart everyiery -- quarter of the nation's potholes are putting a monetary strain on motorists. >> it's very expensive for us. we have nine vehicles. the multiplication many times on our expenses.

>> about the only one who benefits from this madness in auto repair shops, especially in san francisco which has the worst roads with three quarters of them in poor condition and the highest average car repair bill of $1,044. check bag fees are a costly aggravation to most airline travelers but a new bill introduced in congress would forbid airlines from charging $4.5 a bag. a typical fee of $25 is one reason or are u.s. airlines earned $38 billion in fees. united leading the way with $5.8 billion. american and u.s. airways raked in $4.6 billion. now to marriage and money and a lot of it. a new report by wealth-x says bill and melinda gates are the wealthiest couple in the world. their combined wealth just over $85.5 billion. finally, another ring for u.s. olympic gold medalist shawn johnson. her boyfriend proposed to her before a game at wrigley field.

she was on the field expecting to throw out the first pitch and wound up getting a ring. that's cool. and that's number ones. ♪ ♪ (vo) making the most out of every mile. that's why i got a subaru impreza. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. i think she tried to kill us. are you kidding me? no, it's only 15 calories. with reddi wip fruit never sounded more delicious with 15 calories per serving and real cream

the sound of reddi wip is the sound of joy. mornings. wonderful, crazy mornings. we figure you probably don't have time to wait on hold. that's why at xfinity we're hard at work building new apps like this one that lets you choose a time for us to call you. so instead of waiting on hold, we'll call you when things are just as wonderful... [phone rings] but a little less crazy. we're doing everything we can to give you the best experience possible. because we should fit into your life.

not the other way around. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive?

welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." let's go to politics and back to iowa where donald trump is holding a rally and pick fwhik. this is his second straight week end in the hawkeye state and despite leading in a recent national poll donald trump has the dubious distinction of being the most unpopular presidential candidate in iowa. 58% having abunfavorable opinion. let's bring in political analyst and essence contributor sierra lina lina maxwell. welcome and thank you for being here. ladies first with you xerlina. the "washington post" has this poll, donald trump holding a double digit lead over his republican rivals in that poll but as we just mentioned his favorability rating is upside down by 25 points in iowa.

how do you expect plain the disparity here? >> i don't -- i'm still trying to figure it out, actually i think it's surprising certainly to most political observers that donald trump is in the lead but i think if we look back even to the 2012 cycle, certainly there's a large contingent of the republican base that is just fed up with everything. they're anti-government, anti-obama anti-establishment and what donald trump is doing is he's speaking their language. he's talking in rhetoric that they can understand and he's speaking in a way that really resonates with a large portion, apparently, of the republican primary base. the challenge will be to see if he can use that support he has in the base and broaden out the support. i think that that question is very much still unanswered. >> okay. adolfo, dan rather had a colorful way of explaining what's going on here with donald trump and here's what he said to rachel maddow last night. >> american politics president

presidential politics is theater. theater needs a leading man. he plays like a leading man. he's a republican's nightmare because as long as he's in their party running in their primary most republican candidates feel like they're facing a manure spreader in a wind storm. >> [ laughter ] >> i just want to digest this a second. a manure spreader in a wind storm. okay. does he have a point about donald trump playing the leading man? >> well, i saw that interview last night and i was amused by it. not at all. i see this completely different than than dan rather and the commentary a moment ago. donald trump is in the lead because we have 16 republicans running for president. that's the unusual story this year, not donald trump but the number of republican candidates. the republican party has always had a faction, 15% 20%, where donald trump is at today, he's at a ceiling, of a protest vote. we've seen this with ross perot

and pat buchanan and the like. there will be one or two or three as there will be viable republican candidates when you have 80% of republicans that don't approve of donald trump and that's why you see the unfavorability ratings in iowa. so donald trump is a phenomena that's largely a consequence of the number of people running for president of the united states. the big question for us as republicans and dan rather is right in terms of a nightmare is if donald trump were to run as an independent than that would be a complicating factor as it was in 1992 when ross pro did that or if another candidate two do so with even one or two or three percentage points could tilt the election to hillary clinton. >> are you concerned that you could envision literally handing the presidency to hillary clinton as a republican? >> oh absolutely. what i think we have to do is convince first of all to convince republican voters to see if we can get this really --

this nonsense. this reality show he's conducting concluded as quickly as possible because i absolutely think he can tilt the election to hillary clinton if he were to run as an independent candidate. obviously as i mentioned he won't win the nomination. 80% -- they're divided among their choices, but 80% of republicans reject donald trump. so that's the real danger if he were to run as an independent. but the message we have to get out very quickly is that donald trump is not a republican as we all know. he has supported hillary clinton, barack obama, and, of course, has taken positions that are diametrically opposed to everything the majority of republicans support. >> i'm going to say, donald trump, reiterate, he very much is a republican wants to run on the republican platform and there you have it. but i have to talk about hillary so i'm going to go to you zerlina who's campaigning in iowa. iowa one of the key swing states where a new poll finds she's trailing jeb bush scott walker

and marco rubio. she led in a poll taken in april so what's going on? >> well i think she just needs to stay out there. she made another trip to iowa this weekend. i think that the more she's put in front of small groups of iowa voters. iowa is a unique state in there's a lot of face-to-face talk that needs to happen in order to get support. she came in third place in iowa in 2008 so she sees iowa as a challenge but one that i i this she's willing to tackle and you see that because she keeps going back and back and back. but to the point about donald trump. i think he's this cycle's herman cane cain. i just wanted to make that point. i don't think it's a fluke. he's speaking to a certain segment of their primary base. >> you can respond that. >> let me reiterate. obviously he's speaking to a certain group, his ceiling which is 20%. this is historically the number that have been identified with ron paul and newt gingrich

others in the past. this will fade this number is inflated because of the entertainment factor. but this is really frankly, democratic propaganda. >> no. >> this is just a small number of people ultimately and you will see when this pans out, i hope you have me back on the show in 2016 when he will see 80% or 90% of the other republicans are with another candidate. so he's not speaking to some base. i think the democrats going to hillary have more to worry about with bernie sanders who is a credible candidate in my opinion. because hillary clinton's problem is unlike her husband she's an unlikable candidate. she's not a people person. i disagree. the more she's out there, the worse it becomes for her. this latest investigation on the e-mails that's going to take place or the were for a justice department investigation by two inspector generals will only complicate matters for her. she has demonstrated repeatedly

she is a poor candidate. she was the favorite in 2008. she won the new hampshire primary. who would have thought she would have been denied the nomination with a strong support of her husband. >> adolfo you bring up something. let's let hillary clinton speak to herself and then s zerlina you can respond. >> maybe the heat is getting to everybody. i has said repeatedly that i will answer questions before the house committee. we are all accountable to the american people to get the facts right. and i will do my part. >> how will this play out zerlina? >> much like the first e-mail story which fell apparent that was printed in the "new york times." the "new york times" going back to white water has had a problem covering accurately hillary clinton and i cringed when he said just a second ago likability when we throw out unlikable or likability when we're talking about women in

politics. that very much smils of sexism. i'm not saying that you, sir, are sexist but we don't talk about likability in the same way when we're talking about male candidates. we talk about their strength their leadership their focus on and how they speak to the issues. i think we should stay there. >> oh, please please please. this is the typical card with women or whatever when the numbers -- >> women or whatever? again, you're not doing such a good job not being sexist here. >> the fact of the matter, if you look at polls released this week her unfavorability ratings in colorado are 2-1. in iowa they're by large majority as they are in virginia, key swing states. the question was likability trustworthiness. >> unfavorable is a different thing than likability. you said she was an unlikable. you're talking about her personality. i don't think that's relevant. >> she is a lousy candidate, i think the democrats are sincerely worried about her and these last words of hers accountability, the heat is on.

the heat is being applied by the "new york times," the "wall street journal" -- >> their story fell apart. >> the "washington post." >> fell apart. >> the press is putting the heat to release this. if she is so concerned about getting the facts out, it's very similar to to do it all she needs to do is turn the server over to an independent third party, to the fbi. this matter will be put to bed for sure. the fact of the matter is her untrustworthy numbers are high because most of the american people believe she's hiding something. >> zerlina, last word. >> we need to focus on the issues and policy. if you disagree with her on policy that's fine and point that out. but talking about her personality and saying she's unlikable is borderline sexism. >> this is the politics. this is men and women. >> evidence of the great divide. >> this is men and women. >> if right here in our studio imagine that. i'm going to thank you both. >> was it a problem to call likability of rick son. >> you guys will have to wrap it up. thank you so much. new details about the gunman

from the louisiana movie sheeter. court documents say john russell houser had a history of erratic behavior and hospitalizations for men cal conditions. investigators have discovered his journals and are studying his online postings to discover a motive. police say he was from alabama and had been in louisiana since early july staying in a motel 6 room littered with wigs and disguises. two people were killed nine wounded in thursday's attack before mr. houser took his own life. i'm joined by sean henry, president at crowd strike services and former fbi assistant director. always good to see you. thanks for joining me. what stands out to you the most about this profile? >> well you know alex i think the profile is right on. is when we see these types of shootings, you're looking at somebody who is socially isolated isolated, has some history of depression or they're despondent that they may have been bullied or persecuted and

in this case that's what we're seeing. his family says he had been isolated for ten years, they hadn't seen him around. there's no indication he had close friends. then this information coming out about his mental capacity that he had been involved in some domestic situations some type of restraining order placed against him and appeared to be depressed. and then whether or not he was bullied, when we see people like this involved in these shootings, they have this seasons that the world is against them. and fwlfs a tv reporter who came forward and talked about him ranting on television in his how many town in alabama regularly about concerns and he seemed to be volatile. so he seemed to match the profile of these incidents we've seen historically. >> some similarities also sean between thursday's shooting in lafayette and the colorado movie theater shooting in 2012 which has been in the news because of having come to the conclusion that the gunman was guilty and now doing the sentencing phase.

both men chose theaters, both parked their car farce clean get away. is there any reason to believe houser was a copy zmat. >> the motive is what law enforcement is looking for at this very moment. the real motive died with the shooter at the scene of this incident. what they're looking at now you just mentioned they're looking at his writings, if he's been online. they'll try to talk to people who may have been close to him, neighbors or people that he may have encountered in he recent travels. whether or not he's a copycat following on the heels of what happened in aurora certainly it's quite coincidental but that's what law enforcement will be looking at. one thing i'll add that strikes me alex is when they searched his hotel room they found wigs and disguises and he tried to leave the theater and turn back when he saw law enforcement outside. i'm wondering if he had the intent to go on additional shooting spreez as a disguised person and to hit other areas.

that's something we'll never know but it's something law enforcement will be looking at. >> sean henry, always good to talk to you. thanks so much sean. a funeral is being held for sandra bland. hear from her mother about how she wants the world to remember her daughter. imagine - she won't have to remember passwords. or obsess about security. she'll log in with her smile. he'll have his very own personal assistant. and this guy won't just surf the web. he'll touch it. scribble on it. and share it. because these kids will grow up with windows 10. get started today. windows 10. a more human way to do. ...and the wolf was huffing and puffing... kind of like you sometimes, grandpa. well, when you have copd it can be

hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. so i talked to my doctor. she said.. doctor: symbicort could help you breathe better, starting within 5 minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. symbicort helps provide significant improvement of your lung function. symbicort is for copd, including chronic bronchitis and emphysema. it should not be taken more than twice a day. symbicort contains formoterol. medicines like formoterol increase the risk of death from asthma problems. symbicort may increase your risk of lung infections osteoporosis, and some eye problems. you should tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. grandfather: symbicort could mean a day with better breathing. watch out, piggies! child giggles doctor: symbicort. breathe better starting within 5 minutes. call or go online to learn more about a free prescription offer. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help.

you focus on making great burgers, or building the best houses in town. or becoming the next highly-unlikely dotcom superstar. and us, we'll be right there with you helping with the questions you need answered to get your brand new business started. we're legalzoom and we've already partnered with over a million new business owners to do just that. check us out today to see how you can become one of them. legalzoom. legal help is here. you know when you book a fabulous vacation cause the photos look amazing? but you get there and find out it's far from amazing. it's almost like it was too good to be true? that's like when you switch wireless carriers, and find yourself stranded with a frustrating unreliable connection.

if your network isn't working for you... come home to verizon and get 10 gigs for $80 a month plus $15 per line. verizon. come home to a better network. sandra bland was found dead in a jail cell three days after she was pulled over for failing to signal a lane change. the arrest has been criticized as a result of a needless escalation of an officer during a minor traffic stop. the medical examiner's report concluded bland hanged herself using a plastic bag in her cell. relatives have disputed that. msnbc's joy reid is in lyle illinois. joy, welcome to you. what have we heard from the family? >> absolutely alex. an emotional, exuberant service is going on in the church behind me dupage ame church.

the teen choir that young sandra bland grew up singing in, the choir she sang in just three weeks ago, those choirs combining for a service that is full of energy and music and trying to remember the life of this young woman, the pastor saying we're not here to funeralize a martyr we're here to remember a hero. emotion going on in that church. tears but also exuberant songs. this is a precious commodity. people are running out of these quickly, the program here. i'll tell you before the service began i spoke with the spokeswoman for the family. her name is reverend theresa dear dear and take a look at what she said when we asked her if they believe the findings are a suicide. >> we rejoekt thatect that notion for a variety of reasons. the communication, the investigation, the posture of waller county law enforcement,

etc. has been plagued with inconsistencies. they have made numbers of errors. they have withheld information as well as evidence from the family. >> alex, you can see the family defiant despite those findings. the investigation into this case continue despite that finding. three separate investigations going on in texas, including the texas rangers, the texas department of public safety and the fbi looking in so this investigation does continue. alex? >> thank you very much, joy reid from a very poignant saturday. thank you. secretary of state john kerry trying to sell congress on the iran nuclear deal. coming up i'll talk with one congressman who's been an outspoken critic.

expected wait time: 55 minutes. vo: in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we'll take care of it. we put members first. join the nation. thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ do you like the passaaadd? it's a good looking car. this is the model rear end event. the model year end sales event. it's year end! it's a rear end event. year end, rear end check it out. talk about turbocharging my engine. you're gorgeous. what kind of car do you like? new, or many miles on it? get a $1000 volkswagen reward card on select 2015 passat models. or lease a 2015 passat limited edition for $199 a month after a $1000 bonus.

to folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain... shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. to everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you. make sure your doctor hears you too! i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with diabetic nerve pain. if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, don't suffer in silence! step on up and ask your doctor about diabetic nerve pain. tell 'em cedric sent you.

secretary of state john kerry will sell the iran nuclear deal to a sometimes skeptical congress in the coming week. he testifies at a senate hearing thursday and face mrs. scrutiny at a house committee next week. senator bob corker, the chair of the foreign relations committee,

tore into the deal. >> we began 20 months or so ago with a country that was a rogue nation that had a boot on its neck and our goal was to dismantle their program. we've ended up in a situation where the deal that's on the table basically codifyies the industrialization of their nuclear program. >> let's bring in michigan democrat congressman dan kill di. glad tvo have you. >> i'm continuing to evaluate the deal. it's a step forward to embrace a diplomatic solution and the concern about the criticism of the deal itself is that it's easy to criticize the deal on its own face and we have to evaluate what the amlternative

is. that's what i need to do in the next 50 or so days. my thinking is if this deal prevents iran in the next decade from doing what they can do in the next few months and that's develop a nuclear weapon it will be something i can support but i have to see the details before i can make that judgment. >> you've been very active in trying to get iran to release one of your constituents emir he can hekmati, he was visiting relatives in iran. secretary of state john kerry tried to explain about why the americans being held in iran were not part of the deal. let's listen to that. . there was not a meeting that took place. not one meeting that took place believe me -- that's not an exaggeration -- where we did not raise the issue of our american citizens being held. we remain hopeful iran will make a decision to do the right thing and to return those citizens to the united states. >> do you think that should have

been part of the overall nuclear deal? getting a dispensation? do you have any indication iran is likely to do the right thing here? >> in the latter point it's hard to tell. i think iran needs to pay attention to what the world is saying and especially to what congress is saying as we consider the agreement. but on the specific question of whether they should have been included, no. and i'll tell you why. first of all, i don't think we ever would want to condition the freedom of these innocent americans on the success or failure of a deal that has nothing to do with them. in other words had the deal failed or if congress fails to support it what would connecting their freedom do to their futures? it would make it far more uncertain. but we would never want to be in a position where we exchange the freedom of these innocent americans for something in the deal that presumably makes the world a less safe place. we would have had to give something in order to get them back home in this agreement and

i don't think they the americans themselves, their families or certainly me as a member of congress could go down that path. >> what's the last time you've had contact with emir hekmati or his family or what do you know about their contact with him? do we know anything about his condition? >> i've spoken to his sister her a couple times since last week. i speak to her, my staff does on a regular basis, his condition right now, he's lost a lot of weight. his condition has deteriorated but i'm more concerned about his mental state. he's been there almost four years and he's gone through times where he thought his release might be imminent. i know right now he's suffering, he's anxious, he's hearing about what's happening. and i think it's really taking a toll on him. >> can i ask you what you think the outcome will be? will the president be able to get this passed through congress? >> i think so.

there are many people like me who are generally positive towards diplomacy who are just going to go through the details. i saw within of my colleagues mention that he thought -- i think he's wrong on that. but i think it could come down to a handful of votes and that's why us doing our due diligence and taking a look at the details is important. >> michigan democratic congressman dan kill dee, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, alex. one presidential candidate says the link between climate change and isis is real. we'll fact check that.

we need to get to the grand theater, active shooter over there. the scene of attack. a press release dispatch tape showed how first responders responded to the shootings. when hillary clinton will

testify about against benghazi. >> trump on the stump in iowa. hear why the unconventional republican candidate banned the state's largest newspaper from attending today's rally. and inside the white house on 9/11. newly released photographs show the grim faces on the day that changed america forever. welcome to week we understand alex wit. a couple minutes past 1:00 p.m. in the east. here's what's happening. breaking news as hillary clinton will testify before the house select committee on benghazi that will happen on october 22. according to her spokesman. clinton's appearance will be open to the public and not the private interview that chairman tray gowdy initially preferred. news of the hearing first reported by the "washington post" comes amid scrutiny over the personal e-mail account used during her time at the state department joining me now is steve clemens and the washington editor at large for the

"atlantic." as you know she has testified before. what are the blank spaces that need to still be filled. whatteer questions will she be asked. >> i think the committee, at least the majority party running the committee, tray gowdy and others have been not just investigating benghazi her role in the decisions there but looking at other issues and using that to ride into other questions. they had one of her close former aides, sidney blumenthal in and they've not released the transcript of that they've been looking for angles that have nothing to do with benghazi and they're getting to the core of another issue with hillary clinton as to whether in the decision for her to keep a distinct server outside the u.s. government other nefarious things may have happened. you now have a criminal -- a justice probe, maybe not a criminal justice, but at least a justice probe into the potential transfer of classified information which may or may not

have anything to do with benghazi. so they're riding along and seeing where this goes. >> i want to make clear we all know and you've acknowledged it's not a criminal probe, it's a referral probe. with regard to this being made public, who benefits from that? >> well i think it could go either way. right now there are people like blumenthal who have been leading a campaign to show that when he was there he acknowledged that only a few questions during his testimony that has not been released to the public had anything do with benghazi. they've had to do with other things about hiss relationship with the clintons and about other issues that had nothing to do with it. so some of that -- there was one exchange which blumenthal put out that said one of the republican members of the committee was animated about who cleo was and blumenthal allegedly stated cleo was the goddess of history in an exchange he had with hillary in which he encouraged her to take action on something.

so it could look highly political and nonsubstantive. trafficking or sharing classified information and coming back has been costly to people like former cia director john deutsche and others who operated in home systems with classified information and were penalize sod it could go both ways. it could look as if she's holding herself to a different standard of conduct than people working in the government. that could look negative. so we don't know yet until this plays out. >> so you've seen these most recent polls where there were many who question her issues of trustworthiness, honesty and that kind of thing. now that this will be transparent, how do you think that might affect the presidential campaign? >> i think she made a decision that she wanted to proceed with these hearings if they were public hearings. she didn't want to have private hears with tray gowdy and the other members of the committee. she feels adamantly she is outside of any area of wrongdoing. that she can make a compelling statement that has substantive

traction and political traction. so i think in terms of looking whereat this goes the more transparent she is, she's got to reachieve in the minds of americans that she's both authentic and trustworthy, did nothing wrong and is a great leader who will apply to herself as well as to those around her the highest levels of her performance in public duty. i think there's doubt in that. whether it's manufactured doubt or not. nonetheless that doubt exists. >> steven clemens, thanks so much. >> thanks alex. developing now, president obama urging equal rights for gays and lesbians during his historic trip to kenya. >> as an african-american man n the united states i am painfully aware of the history of what happens when people are treated differently under the law. the idea that they will be treated differently or abused because of who they love is wrong. the state does not need to weigh

in on religious doctrine. the state just has to say we'll treat everybody equally under the law. >> he made those comments a couple hours ago with the kenyan president who himself has said gay rights is a non-issue. he said that at the moment in that country in kenya. nbc senior white house correspondent chris jansing is in kenya joining us from nairobi. how significant was the president's message? how was it receive there had? >> well i think you could see, alex president kenyatta was not convinced. no one expected he would be. in fact, a number of african leaders have had some pretty pointed things to say to the president before he came here suggesting he shouldn't bring the issue up. one of them snidely remarking he was going to fix up the president because of his support for gay marriage. having said that they're not the audience here.

the audience the president is going after is the average african with whom he is extremely popular because of his ties here. this is his ancestral homeland. there is a village where his father was born and is buried. where he has been before could not make it this time. but they feel this connection. they treat him and often have signs here suggesting that he is kenyan royalty so he wants to start this process of people being more open minded about these issues and seems to be stepping beyond what obviously many of the officials here have wanted them to do. >> it's a you nuke thing that the president will come to his country where he has a lot of extended family. but what happened last night? talk about that. >> well, the president gets off the plane, heads to hi hotel and there is a big family dinner and i've been joking half sister

alma they've known each other for a long time she had the biggest diplomatic job here which was she had to decide among all the people who claim to somehow be related to the president decide who is going to be at that dinner last night. they seem to be having a good time. there are about three dozen of them but the president admitted today that there were aunties and uncles and cousins that he had never met before and he had to be -- it had to be explained what the relationship was. but he is more and more owning his relationship with there country. he said he didn't want to come here earlier. he didn't want to focus on it too much he knew he would get criticism for playing favorites but one of the things he did say at the end of the press conference was he promised to come back without the suit jacket and not have to travel with the kind of entourage that goes with a president. >> who had to figure out the

seating chart there? >> and he's on his way now to a state dinner. we don't know how many family members might be invite sod that will be interesting to see who made the cut for the state dinner over where the president of kenya is. >> totally relatable. you're looking to see how we're going to work this out. chris jansing, thank you so much. developing now, donald trump is barnstorming through iowa at this hour. he's back for the second week end in a row. but shut out of today's rally and picnic, the "des moines register." reporters from the paper in trump's penalty box after a scathing editorial. nbc's katy tur is joining us from iowa. katie, let's get to what, we expect this afternoon. >> well he should be getting here around 12:30. he's going to take the stage, talk to his supporters, give a

similar stump speech if you will where he's going to hit on what a great businessman he is and how he needs to bring that business savvy to the white house and we imagine he'll take down some of his opponents as he's been doing at these rallies. then maybe a wild card. i don't know, he tends to throw out these wild cards a lot. sending out or talking abouting lindsey graham cell phone. sorry, hard to talk with this guy talking behind me. or calling john mccain not a war hero and then a war hero. he likes to throw out these bombs, if you will that get people talking. >> he does do that. imagine that we will let you listen to the speech katy and get back to us if something big happens come 20 minutes or so from now when he takes the stage. thank you, katy tur. well today, new insight into the chaos that erupted into the moments after louisiana's deadly theater shooting. a short time ago emergency service dispatch calls for released. >> be advised they're inside the theater now. there's one person outside that

they said we could go to that they hadn't given us a clear for the inside. >> 10-4. is the scene safe completely? >> they said we can handle the one on the outside. >> also today a moment to remember the victims at the lafayette farmers' market. the market bell rang 11 times to honor those killed and wounded followed by a moment of silence. two people were killed, nine wounded in thursday's attack before the gunman took his own life. nbc's craig melvin is in lafayette, louisiana, for us this afternoon. craig, what are you seeing out there today? >> there was a news conference alex that wrapped up about 30 minutes ago. i spoke with a police chief about five minutes ago. the crime scene, the movie theater behind me going to be an active scene at least through monday.

so perhaps on monday law enforcement will turn it back over to the company that owns the movie theater. also we learned that they are gleaning a great deal from these social media posts that the shooter put out there the shooter was known to several other agencies so the police department here in lafayette is now in communication with those agencies as well. in addition to all of that there was a stop by just a short time ago, former florida congressman allen west in town for an outdoorsman conference of sorts, hunters, fishermen gathering here in lafayette, they do it every year. but he was with ted nugent who has become a fairly well known gun rights activist. my friend and colleague, msnbc reporter asked the former

congressman about this conversation that everyone else seems to be having gun rights. take a listen. >> like i said and ted said let's not talk about the -- trying to make a policy statement, a political statement, let these families grieve right now. that's why we came down to be a part of their grieving and to show our sympathy and respect and condolences. >> reporter: do you think there's ever an appropriate time to have the conversation? >> it ain't now. >> reporter: former congressman allen west saying that people don't seem to want to talk about any sort of policy changes with regards to guns when there's a shooting in chicago or baltimore. but here's the thing with what he said. the former congressman saying the time ain't now. this is the third mass shooting since mid-june. one could make the argument that it may never be a time to have the conversation. after charleston there was chattanooga, we start to bury the dead in n chattanooga and before that can be done we have the shooting here. so the case could be made that it may never be a time to have

the conversation but it remains to be seen what if anything happens from a policy standpoint after all of this alex. >> i don't know, craig, you're preaching to the congregation here. it's high time to have this conversation. i've made that known before. anyway, craig, thank you so much. remembering sandy bland, her funeral is under way at this hour. how loved ones are saying good-bye. plus the latest on the investigation into what happened after she was pulled over in texas. to kill germs, i used to think a mouthwash had to burn. then i went pro with crest pro-health mouthwash. go pro with crest pro-health.

it's formulated to target and kill 99% of germs without the burn of alcohol. so you move to a healthier mouth from day one. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me... and you're talking to a rheumatologist about a biologic this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me reach for more. doctors have been prescribing humira for more than 10 years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contrubutes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers including lymphoma have happened, as have blood liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an

infection. talk to your doctor and visit humira.com this is humira at work. [ [ school bell rings ] ♪ ♪ [ [ school bell ri everything kids touch at school sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. you handle life; clorox handles the germs.

the latest shootings in charleston, chattanooga and now lafayette are reignited the debate on gun control. it puts louisiana's relaxed gun policies in the spotlight. this 2014 report by the law center to prevent gun violence ranked louisiana as one of the worst states on gun control

laws. on friday governor bobby jindal deflected numerous gun control questions saying this discussion should wait. >> now's the time to focus on those victims. there will be an appropriate time for us to talk about policies and politics and i'm sure folks will want to score political points off this tragedy as they try to do you have a previous tragedies. right now let's focus on the families. joining me is louisiana state representative terry land landry sr. is it too early to talk gun control or are we late given the mass shootings we've had over the past few weeks? three in four weeks. three mass shootings. >> well i think we are a bit late and i say a bit late to be a little facetious. we should have been talking about it after columbine. we should have been talking about it after the theater in colorado. we should have been talking about the kids in sandy hook. we should have been talking about it when the congress lady was shot in the parking lot. i think we're several years too late on having this discussion.

think progress says that louisiana has one of the weakest gun laws in the nation and we mentioned it earlier, another report gave the state an f on gun laws. do your constituents want change? >> i think our constituents want major change. no one is opposing the second amendment without restrictions. and the debate is about who should have a gun and who should have the possibility of owning a gun. the second amendment provides a well-regulated militia. not a well-armed militia. any restrictions -- and i support the second amendment. i've been a law enforcement officer for 27 years. i was a former head of the state police when we passed a concealed handgun permit. my job then was to enforce the laws. we had a pretty good conceal handgun permit law. but in the last four years we've gutted that law. it's more than a shell than anything else. we allow guns in places that i think that our framers had no

idea was going to be exposed to. i-the-we have to have real conversations and the problem is those guns that are gained illegally, people having face to face buys at gun shows, those loopholes need to be changed. i'm not opposed to people having concealed handguns but i think we have to have restrictions. the first amendment provides freedom of speech but there's a restriction on that. you can't do in a place and cry fire. we make people go through loopholes to get a driver's license. someone e-mailed me saying it's easier to get a gun in louisiana than a driver's license. that's a horrible comparison. >> which probably explaines why you have the ratings you do in that state. the nra claims that this absence of gun regulation is a good thing in part because it enables armed vigilantes to gun down shooters like the man who perpetrate it had shooting in

lafayette i say go to alec. go to their web page and see who sponsors them. nra is the gun proponents and lobbyists. these gun lobbyists are making money. this is really about the money and if you follow that trail and see who's making the money you can understand why the debate is so one-sided. they've done a remarkable job in getting out their -- i call it propaganda propaganda do you really believe arming everyone is the solution? do you really think a teacher should be carrying a gun in her purse with a kid that plays football? do we really believe that? if we do we're in a slippery slope. i frame it this way. any time you put gun rights over human rights and community rights, we've got a major problem in america.

>> police say he purchased the gun legally from his hometown in alabama. as legislators you said it's your job to close the loopholes. what are the loopholes you are concerned about and how might you close them? >> well i think we are. i'm not a health care professional, a mental health care profession alal. but sometimes it's hard to detect and unless a person has been adjudicated in the courts and declared mentally incapable you can apply for a gun. and with the hipaa laws it's very difficult for people who give the information whether or not a person has been diagnosed. you have to be adjudicated for the court of law and declared insane, mentally incapable in order to be excluded from getting a gun permit. there's something fundamentally wrong for that.

rather than closing the loophole we are making it more accessible. >> state representative terry landry, sr., come see me any time sir. >> thank you for having me. the white house on september 11. up next, a look at newly released photographs on the day that changed america forever. esurance was born online. which means fewer costs, which saves money. their customer experience is virtually paperless which saves paper, which saves money. they have smart online tools so you only pay for what's right for you which saves money. they settle claims quickly which saves time, which saves money. they drive an all-hybrid claims fleet which saves gas, which saves money. they were born online, and built to save money, which means when they save, you save. because that's how it should work in the modern world. esurance. backed by allstate. click or call. ...and the wolf was huffing and puffing... kind of like you sometimes, grandpa. well, when you have copd it can be hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in.

so i talked to my doctor. she said.. doctor: symbicort could help you breathe better, starting within 5 minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. symbicort helps provide significant improvement of your lung function. symbicort is for copd, including chronic bronchitis and emphysema. it should not be taken more than twice a day. symbicort contains formoterol. medicines like formoterol increase the risk of death from asthma problems. symbicort may increase your risk of lung infections osteoporosis, and some eye problems. you should tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. grandfather: symbicort could mean a day with better breathing. watch out, piggies! child giggles doctor: symbicort. breathe better starting within 5 minutes. call or go online to learn more about a free prescription offer. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help.

[ school bell rings ] ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] everything kids touch at school sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. you handle

life; clorox handles the germs. we're getting a look at photos inside the white house on september 11, 2001. they show vice president george w. bush vice president dick cheney reacting on the day of the terror attacks. some images show tense moments during the emergency meeting held six floors below the white house. the photos were released in response to a freedom of information act request. they were taken by cheney's staff photographer. why is hillary clinton going to testify in congress again about benghazi? and what could be the political fallout? that's next. i noticed benny right away.

i just had to adopt him. he's older so he needs my help all day. when my back pain flared up we both felt it i took tylenol at first but i had to take 6 pills to get through the day. then my friend said "try aleve". just two pills, all day. and now, i'm back for my best bud! aleve. all day strong and try aleve pm now with an easy open cap. did you leave behind something reliable? something that felt like... home? and now you can't connect the way you used to... because you switched wireless carriers and can't get a reliable connection anymore. it's okay. we're still here for you and we'll be happy to have you back on a reliable network. come home to verizon and get 10 gigs for $80 a month plus $15 per line. only at verizon.

♪ ♪ ♪ (vo) making the most out of every mile. that's why i got a subaru impreza. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru.

sandra bland is being laid to rest this afternoon. her funerals taking place at a family church in a chicago suburb. hundreds of people friends and family arrived for the service. the 28-year-old bland was found dead in her jail cell three days after she was pulling over for failing to signal a lane change. the arrest has been criticized by some as the result of a needless escalation of the officer. the officer's report concluded bland hanged herself using a plastic bag in her cell. relatives have disputed that. msnbc's joy reid is once again in lyle illinois for us. joy, i know you talked about an exuberant and celebratory service that was under way in the last hour. how is she being remembered today? >> absolutely alex. i can tell you i just came outwhistful

as sorority sisters who pledged with her with were on the dais tareearfully remembering her. she is remembered by senator dick durban, the senior senator from illinois, was also in the church and he along with congressman bill foster who represent this is area made an announcement that they have written joint letters to the jrmt of justice to attorney general loretta lynch asking for a full and fair federal investigation of sandra bland's death that was announced to cheers from within that packed sanctuary mean literally every space inside that church is filled from the basement to the chapel to the overflow room. every inch filled with people. thousands, over a thousand people have filed through that church to mourn sandra bland. as of this hour we know elected officials are demanding a federal investigation of her

death. >> may i ask you, though joy, have relatives of sandra bland been clear in what they are they are disputing about the first findings surrounding her death? that autopsy that says she hanged herself in the jail cell with a plastic bag. what specifically? that she hanged herself or not? are they alleging something further sinister? >> they absolutely don't believe she hanged herself, alex and they're firm about that from their attorney as well as their spokesman at sandra bland's home church. the spokeswoman said emphatically they don't believe anything that's come out of warren county because they say the warren county investigation has been so inconsistent. the family was already in dispute other what the family was saying was a demand for a second autopsy. a new autopsy, the d.a. disputing that saying they wanted tissue and blood samples maintained from sandra's body.

they're upset with the way the autopsy was presented to the public and pictures of the autopsies, really grisly pictures in some cases that were put out and wound up on the internet with the family not being notified. so in short, alex, they don't trust the warren county investigators at all. >> joy reid, for good reason, it would seem. thank you so much. back to the breaking news report that hillary clinton will testify in a public hearing before the house select committee on benghazi. this will happen on october 22. news of the hearing first reported by the "washington post" comes after a new report on the personal e-mail account she used during her time in the state department. she addressed that matter at an event in new york city yesterday. >> maybe the heat is getting to everybody. i have said repeatedly that i will answer questions before the house committee. we are all accountable to get

the facts right. >> joining me now is erin mcpike and manu raju from politico. erin trey gowdy wanted to make the questioning of hillary clinton in private. he wanted to do it with the committee there. what do you make of the fact her camp wants it public. >> she obviously wants it to get her own message out but what we're reading is that the clinton campaign wants certain questions and they want other questions to be left out of this hearing. so the clinton campaign is obviously trying to control this very closely so she can get a real handle on it and talk about it in the way she wants. >> so manu can you answer why another hear something didn't congress already put out a report? >> certainly. i think you'll hear republicans believe that are still a number of unanswered questions about

benghazi and whether the administration acted appropriately and clearly the questions over clinton's e-mails have fueled the republicans' fire on this investigation. you'll hear those questions be asked in the campaign but, look what the clinton campaign is saying is that they have answered all the questions and i think one of the reasons why they leaked the information of the date of the hearing which, by the way, the republicans have not yet confirmed, they have leak this to say, hey, we are willing to talk but very clearly as erin suggested, there is a dispute over whether what questions can be asked and i don't think you can control republican congress members on this committee. >> but to that end manu, who is at greater terrific? the gop members of congress who will be grilling hillary clinton or hillary clinton who could be perceived as being badgered? who is it? >> certainly alex you can only -- the republicans have to worry about overreaching in their questioning, particularly

if it seems that hillary has answered the questions but this is a huge risk and gamble for clinton as well. if she stumbles and backtracks looks evasive it will add to more questions about whether she can be trusted. clearly the republicans view this as a political winner bringing her before the committee and it won't finalize the questions because you know there will be a number of things hillary will not answer and that will only lead to more questions and more criticism from the gop. >> if i can jump in on that if you don't mind. clinton first gave her press conference in late march about this e-mail controversy. it's now late july. so we've been talking about it for four months. when we have this hearing at the end of october that will be seven months of talking about this and she gave that speech yesterday at new york university taking on wall street which is something she needs to do to fire up progressives and nobody is talking about what was in the

speech. instead we're talking about the e-mail controversy and the hearing in october. so she'll have seven straight months of this being the driving story behind her campaign and it's certainly not going to be good for her as it continues to go on through october. >> to your point, karen deyoung who wrote this story about the confirmation of october 22 she said the same thing. she said this is the longest story ever. let's move to the personal e-mail account. her campaign calling the "new york times" report about a possible justice department probe false. her spokesman just released a statement which reads in part "we want to ensure appropriate procedures are followed as these e-mails are reviewed while not unduly delaying the release of her e-mails. we particularly do not want the release to be hampered by bureaucratic infighting among the intelligence community." so erin can the clinton camp characterize this as partisan politics and is it partly that?

>> it may be she continues to say there was no classified informs in her e-mail but we learned yesterday afternoon from that report, from the inspectors general that there were at least four classified e-mails they know of so far from a sample of 40 e-mails. >> can i be clear? the timing of those e-mails being classified. we they classified at the time of the exchange or post put into a classification status. >> i think what we have understood is that there were a number of e-mails classified after the fact but there are at least four that they think were classified at the time or at least contained sensitive information that should have suggested that be classified information so they have to go into a deeper review of the e-mails and whether or not the justice department moves forward with this investigation, it will cause an uproar if they don't because it looks like she's

getting special treatment and if they do we'll see more bad headlines. so the clinton campaign can say this is partisan politics but they have to look into the fact whether there was a real problem or whether she compromised security in some way. >> manu let's go on something different here to the floor of the senate and senator ted cruz and what he said. let's listen. >> the majority leader looked me in the eye and looked 54 republicans in the eye. i cannot believe he would tell a flatout lie. and i voted based on those assurance s assurances that he made to each and every one of us. what we just saw today was an absolute demonstration that not only what he told every republican senator but what he told the press over and over and over again was a simple lie. >> this was about a great agency deal here.

but the fact that he call mad jorty leader mitch mcconnell from his own party a liar on the senate floor, how unprecedented is this? >> it's super rare. the senate has rules in which you're not supposed to directly call out senators and impugn their integrity. you're supposed to address the presiding officer not other senators on the floor so not only calling someone from your own party and your leadership a liar, that's incredibly rare. but the thing about ted cruz is that he's running his campaign based on the guy fighting his republican party leadership. he's trying to showcase he's doing this on every major issue possible. the export/import bank which is a big -- which is being -- trying to be defunded and killed by a member of conservative groups and cruz is trying to kill that too. he's saying this is a clear issue in which the republican

leadership is trying to keep this alive and he's trying to kill it and he's battling his party. so he sees this as being a political winner even if it's raising eyebrows in the senate. >> i was going to let you guys go but i know you want to stick around while we take donald trump live from iowa right now. so hang on we'll listen to him and i want to get your reaction on the other side. >> i have to take it easy i don't want to -- me? i don't care. i say the truth. [ cheers and applause ] so i went to loredo and my wife came home and she was crying and i said to myself why are you crying? you made it home, you made it safely from the border. ful [ laughter ] tears were coming down her face because she thought it was so dangerous. and i said to myself she either really loves me a lot or she's got a pretty good line of stuff

going. but it was a little bit scary going over the border. and while i was there -- by the way, i have to tell you the mayor, pete great guy. really great guy. he's a democrat but he's a great guy and they gave us such good treatment. the law enforcement there is unbelievable. including the border patrol. they were told as i was in the air from washington don't be there for trump, don't be there for trump. they're the ones that are bothering me. the border patrol incredible people. they were told in that area that there are hundreds or actually thousands of border patrol guys and women, tremendous people. >> we're going to keep monitoring this in our control booth. so one question to each of you. how long does this last? >> i think it is contingent on how the media continues to cover trump. because i don't think he is going anywhere any time soon and

he is talking about immigration and i think there's a big difference from 2011 when he was not a candidate and when he was talking art birther issues, where president obama was born. there are lots of republicans out there who hate president obama and they liked him talking about that issue. but it didn't do anything for anyone. and a lot of republican voters see immigration and illegal immigration as an issue that affects him. so as long as people continue to listen he'll stay high up there in the polls. it's only when the media starting to dig into his background and do the opposition research and test him as a candidate, if he doesn't hold up to those tests, that's when i think we'll see him start to nosedive. >> manu, quickly, to you. >> yeah i think it's as long as his poll numbers continue to show he's a front-runner in this race. he's still the front-runner. of course those are national polls, we'll see how he does in the early state polls but if he's a front-runner he'll have

to be covered by a front-runner and we'll all be -- continue to be talking about him until the day that potentially he implodes. >> okay manu raju erin thanks so much. president obama's trip to africa becomes a family affair. what do we know about his family in kenya? that's next.

president obama spoke about gay rights corruption and even family politics during a joint news conference with kenya's president. mr. obama talked about last night's dinner with lee dozen relatives at a hotel in nairobi. >> there are cousins and uncles and aunties that show up that you didn't know existed. but -- but you're always happy to meet them. and there were lengthy explanations in some cases of the connections. president obama is expected

to deliver an important policy speech in kenya tomorrow as he continues his two-nation trip in africa. he goes to ethiopia next. the rise of isisesisisis. has climate change set the stage for their murderous rampage? that's next. terry, stop! it's quite alright... ok, you know what? we want to make a deal with you. we're twins, so could you give us two for the price of one? come on, give us a deal. look at how old i am. do you come here often? he works here, terry! you work here, right? yes... ok let's get to the point. we're going to take the deal. get a $1000 volkswagen reward card on select 2015 jetta models or lease a 2015 jetta s for $139 a month after $1000 volkswagen bonus. it's so shiny. i know, mommy, but it's time to let the new kitchen get some sleep. ♪ if you want beautiful results, you know where to go. angie's list. everyone can shop for services from highly rated companies, even without a membership. but as a member, you can save more. and you get exclusive access to ratings and reviews. angie's list is there...

for all your projects - big and small. pretty! come see what the new angie's list can do for you. so you're a small business expert from at&t? yeah, give me a problem and i've got the solution. well, we have 30 years of customer records. our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. my drivers don't have time to fill out forms. tablets. keep them all digital. we're looking to double our deliveries. our fleet apps will find the fastest route. oh, and your boysenberyy apple scones smell about done. ahh, you're good.

i like to bake. with at&t get up to $400 dollars in total savings on tools to manage your business.

democratic presidential candidate martin o'malley is weighing in on climate change and connecting it to isis and syria. this is what he said this week that has conservatives in an uproar. >> [ inaudible ]. it wiped out farmers and created an economic crisis and created the conditions of extreme poverty that has led now to the rise of isil and this extreme violence. >> and joining me now is caitlyn whirl and francesca wema the

directors for climate security. and welcome to you both. and how legitimate is the risk of isis can be attributed to climate change. >> thank you, alex. one of the things that we need to look at is what we know. and what we know is that isis is thriving on the amount of instability in the country. another thing we know is the instability is caused by socioeconomic, political and environmental factors as well so in the midst of civil war it is difficult to disentangle what is linked one thing to another but our research found that in 2012 we looked at the specific -- the drought from 2006-2011, one of the worst droughts in recorded history and had a huge impact on the population. 75% of farmers lost total crop failure.

85% of herders lost livestock in the investigatenortheast of the country and this kumped with the assad regime created the instability. and we know that isis is thriving on instability and this is one small part of the over all instability, and they are were ridiculed by the rnc calling his claim absurd. i'm looking at a report from the new york times back in new york of this year. october 2014 report by the pentagon and 2013, an article published in the atlantic. and you look at these things o'malley has fired back, accusing the rnc of denying the facts but is there some merit to his perspective? >> well i can't speak to o'malley's comments i can't speak foro mally, but what is true is that the u.s. millie and the u.s. intelligence is concerned how climate change

interacts with the security landscape in the middle east and north africa and the arctic and the south china sea for a long time, going back to 2003, and the bush administration and the department of defense put out a report that showed strong concern for how climate change might impact national and international security. so this is certainly not something that is coming -- that is partisan not something environmentalists are talking about, this is something that institutions of national security and our u.s. military is concerned about. and as caitlyn just mentioned, we're talking about a complex situation in syria. but we're looking at how climate change might have interacted with water resources and natural resource management to lead to instability. and also this here the proceedings showing that the drought caitlyn just talked

about was two to three more times likely due to climate change. so we're talking about the mass displacement of people that led to instability and once you have instability a whole number of things that can go wrong that is hard to predict and one of the things that went wrong is syria -- is isis rather rising to power. >> domino effect. i have less than a minute left in the show caitlyn, what do you think, could we make tangible gains if we had a serious approach to climate change or would such changes be negligible. >> i think we need to follow the u.s. intelligence community and integrated climate change and what it will mean for state conflict. >> thank you for that. and thank you to you francesca. i want to have you back. this is a great conversation to have and there is a lot to be said about it. >> thanks alex. >> that is a wrap up of

"weekends with alex witt." i'll be coming your way from los angeles. have a great day. we'll see you sunday.

...and the wolf was huffing and puffing... kind of like you sometimes, grandpa. well, when you have copd it can be hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. so i talked to my doctor. she said.. doctor: symbicort could help you breathe better, starting within 5 minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. symbicort helps provide significant improvement of your lung function. symbicort is for copd, including chronic bronchitis and emphysema. it should not be taken more than twice a day. symbicort contains formoterol. medicines like formoterol increase the risk of death from asthma problems. symbicort may increase your risk of lung infections osteoporosis, and some eye problems. you should tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. grandfather: symbicort could mean a day with better breathing. watch out, piggies! child giggles doctor: symbicort.

breathe better starting within 5 minutes. call or go online to learn more about a free prescription offer. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. > all the world may be a stage but there's no telling when life will radically depart from the script. in illinois, a man is trampled by a panicked horse while another in north carolina struggles to escape from a deadly inferno. then, a 4th of july celebration goes explosively off course. while taking off in a jet turns into a fight between life and death. and falling from 9,000 feet, two skydivers free themselves before it's too late. >> you have to do something or your you're going to die. >> sometimes the best-laid plans can take a turn for the weird.