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and basically march them to the door of the oven. >> yep, that's about the best he could do for comedic reaction. good morning, everybody. welcome to ""morning joe."" with us on set we have msnbc contributor mike barnacle mark halperin. nicole wallace is here. richard haase, in washington pulitzer prize winner and analyst eugene robinson. joe an assignment, back tomorrow. we have a couple of things to begin this morning. look at the new poll of republican primary voters in new hampshire. donald trump has the lead. 24% choose trump, doubling the 12% who picked former florida governor jeb bush.
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the pollsters find trump's quick rise takes votes from nearly all of his opoevenlts it appears to hurt chris christie ted cruz and scott walker the most. the poll has an ohio governor john kasich moving up into 3rd tied with walker. i don't know if that's wishful thinking on my part. that's kind of hopeful. right, halperin? >> i think kasich will be 2nd in the poll by labor day. >> on it why? what is it? whatt the ridiculous zany stuff that he's saying getting him into the top of the pack. >> he spent $2 million on tv ads at a time no one else was. >> those ads must be vitriolic. >> he has senator sununu helping him. if hess goes into 2nd it means
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jeb bush and chris christie counting on new hampshire, the governor of ohio who is a formidable candidate. >> it's a really solid spot he has had up there. >> great in front of the camera, performing great. >> he is the same on the spot as she in the supermarket in nashua, new hampshire. he's the same person. he's very good retail and very good on tv. >> hey, he'll never make it. this comes as the merit poll saw a spike in the poll with caseic placing 4th. huh. so just out this morning, bloomberg is reporting donald trump's total worth may be close to one-third of what he has said. >> are you kidding? >> that's what they're reporting. we can claim he is worth at least $10 billion. but an analysis done by bloomberg billionaire's index puts the number closer to $2.9 billion t. analysis reports, for instance his golf and resort
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properties are worth about $570 million. trump has said previously they are worth about 2 billion. according to bloomberg, he did not disclose his methodology. >> it's hard to put an exact price on a golf course him some of us would say it's priceless. >> that's where you put it. the category for richard haase. the reporting a knowledges there may be at assets it doesn't include, like 11 entities on his disclosure report that have no values or income and doesn't attach a value to his brand. are they right? what are they saying? he's exaggerating, they think, maybe? >> well, there are some missing answers. you know he may be worth closer to or more than this mouse, because there are some things my colleagues couldn't get. >> this is leak the crowd effort. if are you a right or you are wrong what is bloomberg say
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something. >> he has billions of dollars is there that's not the question. >> he puts a lot of value if his brand and he errs i think on the side of saying this combrand is worth more than some independent analysts say. but he's still quite rich. >> yes, he is. >> it doesn't patz. >> you don't know what something is worth until you sell it. the mark will tell you. >> listen. he's a gazillion nair whether he is lying or not. >> is he lying? is that what bloomberg is say something. >> this is only a lasting ding on him if lying and fabricating about. and his life becomes a record. >> we're saying an appraisal of some of the properties done independently is different than what he appraises things at. >> which is sort of consistent with him describing himself as, you know he says the mexicans love me the blacks love me. is there any reality? this becomes a part of the inescapable trumpism. as it attachs itself to other things we learn to be true about him.
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so to the degree that everything he says is sort of his own version of who is in the parallel. >> it sounds like bloomberg has their own version. >> why this report is interesting is because his wealth and financial success and his truth telling are big parts of the question that has sustained his appeal. >> it doesn't sound like you have his truth telling or lack thereof completely failed. >> there is no way to completely nail it down. as richard said again, it's hard to value assets until they are put on the market. >> it does not matter. >> genes help me out here. >> mike barnacle is right $3 billion is a lot of money. at least if my book. you know i wish i had 3 million dollars. i think, you know he is and i actually think that bloomberg answers a fundamental question. there are people who have argued that donald trump's net worth is in the low hundreds of dollars, if that. bloomberg says he is a billionaire alt least maybe not
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capitalized $10 billion. maybe it's capitalized. $3 you know what is his brand worth? i have no idea. >> it's as rigorous as he can do. >> without real answers. >> this gives him the opportunity at some point today to say bloomberg is stupid. they make these computers that nobody uses. >> actually. >> here's mine. >> there is something far more important that i think we ned to talk about which i'm surprised certain candidates have chosen not to. we will move to former arkansas governor and republican presidential candidate mike huckabee's harsh comments on the fallout from the iran nuclear deal which continue to impact the presidential race. >> this president's foreign policy is the most feckless in american history. he's so naive that he would trust the iranians and he would take the israelis and basically march them to the door of the
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oven. >> particular comments of mr. huckabee are i think part of just a general pattern that we have seen that is -- would be considered ridiculous if it weren't so sad when you get rhetoric like this. maybe it gets attention and maybe is an effort to push mr. trump out of the headlines. but it's not the kind of leadership that is needed by perk right now. >> do you stand by your comments? >> absolutely. absolutely i do. the last time the world did not take seriously threats that someone was going to kill massive amounts of jews we ended up seeing 6 million jews murdered. we didn't take it seriously.
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the iranian government. we're not talking about a bloger here. we're talking the iranian government has repeatedly said it's going to be easier to take the jews out they're all concentrated in israel. we won't have to go around the toward find them. three times i have stood at that oven dorm i know exactly what it looks like. >> so israel's ambassador to the united states ron dermer a stauven opponent of the iran deal he would never use those words or question the president's sincerity. presidential candidates have begun to weigh if. senator ted cruz said huckabee quote is exactly right to highlight the threat that the obama nuclear deal poses to the nation of israel. it is a sad day, he says when the president of the united states cannot or will not see the truth. i say this is a sad day, actually. rick santorum also offered his
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support. >> iran is very clear that they want to destroy the state of israel, wipe out the jews in israel. we are a little shocked they are getting the pushback that it is. i think it is clear that this is iraq's intent. >> at least two others of his candidates did not share his opinion. >> i have been to israel about as many times as mr. huck a combee, whom i respect, but the use of that kind of language and it's just wrong. this is not the way we're going to win elections. that's not how we're going to solve problems. so it's an unfortunate remark. i'm not sure he felt the same. having said that this is a bad deal. i can see why people are angry about it. >> cards like mr. trump, huckabee or anybody else i will let them speak for themselves. i certainly don't speak like that. it's a bad deal. it's flat out a bad deal. >> i'm disappointed and i'm
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really offended personally. i know governor huckabee. i have a cordial relationship with him. he served as to the governor of arkansas but i find this kind of inflammatory rhetoric totally unacceptable. one can disagree with the particulars of the agreement to put a lid on the nuclear weapons program of iran and that is fair game. but this steps over the line. >> governor huckabee issued this response to clinton soon after. he says quote, how many times will eastern's leaders calm for israel's afilelation before hillary wakes up to this existential threat. home murdered israelis will it take for hillary to express as much outrage at iran as she did
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at my defense of israel? so then there is this wrinkle to the story. sam stein of the huffington post duck up that in 28 huckabee actually called for intense diplomacy, economic sanctions with iran and said that quote we might be able to live with the contained iran vowing iran wouldn't get nuclear weapons on his watch. but he paid it clear iran could be brought to the table. so let's go around the table. i'm sorry. i think mike huckabee might be two people. describe them richard haase. >> let me make an argument that there ought to be a moratorium on the holocaust by definition is a unique historical atrocity. no one should be able to make comparisons to it. and secondly in the iran debate you also need a moratorium on references to appeasement, again, a unique historical diplomatic moment. there is ground for being
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seriously critical to the iran agreement. i am critical. we feed a serious debate. after september, either way, pass or fail this is going to become a major feature of american foreign policy and national security. we feed a serious debate about it. >> nicole, why is it so tough for the republican candidates to do what he did to trump for his comments. i think we could put them on scales and huckabees would drop to scale on his side. >> well, these are the two leading republican candidates that did exactly the right thing. i am very proud to be a republican in support of this field. george bush and scott walker said something the president would say when someone in their own party lets the rhetoric cross the line. the substance of what he is saying. these israeli leaders are horrified by the deal. the language is obscure, otherwise a vital point. his language is unfortunate. i thought jeb bush and scott walker handled it perfectly, extending the language. >> you see the lemings rushing
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to casticate him as a cancer. >> i don't think mike huckabee is a cancer. this comment crossed the line. i don't think mike huck a intee viewed by the grass roots republicans as the same cancer to conservatism as donald trump is. >> i'm wondering after thinking about it for days you think about what huckabee said. >> well, we had a pretty strong reaction on the set. i think the candidates denouncing trump are cowards that won't denounce this are cowards. that's a hard thing to say. >> he didn't go there. >> come on guys listen to what he said. my initial reaction yesterday, i have to say, i was completely shocked. i hadn't seen the comments. so i saw them in real time. i was completely shocked. take a look. >> republican presidential candidate mike huckabee is facing criticism for apparently
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comparing the nuclear deal with iran to the holocaust. former arkansas governor said in part this this president's foreign policy is the most feckless in american history. it is so naive that he would trust the iranians. by doing so he will take the israelis and march them oh god, okay. into the door of the oven. i had heard about the parallel to the holocaust. i had not read it until this moment and i am horrified. >> it went on from there, because so many people were astounded all day yesterday, i was approached by people on the street about this story. really really upset. these appalling remarks by a president for candidate to be sure this is not a defuns yax of barak obama's or john kerry's negotiating skills. it wasn't a comparison to apasadenament. make no mistake, mike huckabee likened president obama and john kerry cutting on agreement to
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adolph hitler's systematic murder machine, lumping them with war criminals and their extermination plans for millions of people. this is how the reaction went on later in the show as the weight of those comments sank in. >> if you have been to auschwitz, if you have been toberkeinow. you see the piles of class ifs, the piles of hair the piles of shoes and clothes and every bit of their humanity that had to be stripped away handed over as they went and then comburned to their death among other things it's really not a good comment to say. it's a deal breaker. it should be over for him. >> the fact that he's doubling down he should be doubled over. truth be told i real le like mike huckabee. he has been a friend of the show many years. he sat at the table. she smart, witty, charming. i don't agree with everything he has to say. i love she a man of deep
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religious convictions or so i thought. a former southern baptist preacher. we will talk about how he blessed me on the show for my sins on one of his visits. it was so much fun. he was fun. frankly, i don't see mike huckabee in these comments i see a candidate desperate to get on the debate stage and doing anything, anything to make that happen. people of good faith have strong opinions about the iran deal. many have had tough questions about the eastern deal including joe on the set. the anti-defamation leak ambassador dermer many others. but many who strongly oppose the deal were displaced by his comments. in 1933 think about this europe's jewish population was over 9 million. 12 years lateer the nazi death machine had killed nearly two out of three alongside hundreds of thousands of others who they choked with gas, tortured starved, shot or burned. all deaths that took a place
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away from the battlefields of world war ii. the forced palm beachs continued until may 7th fine 45 the day before the nazis surrendered to the allies. when mike huckabee says president obama is figuratively marching israelis to the oven door i hope he remembers they were actually marched to the oven door. tear intent was to wipe out an entire race. the comparison is certainly unfit for a preacher or a presidential candidate and it is not the mike huckabee we know not even close. i'm surprised, really at how different the reaction from the republican field has been given their obsession with donald trump, given their fear from donald trump. their collective desire to wipe him off the face of the earth. how about actually saying the right thing? just say the right thing. it should be easy. this should be an easy one. huckabee should apologize, even though at this point it would be empty since he has doubled down
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it's time now to take a look at the morning papers at 22 past the hour from the boston globe. the city's mayor marty walsh is pulling his city out of the u.s. olympic committee's 2024 bid process. the proposal experienced significant opposition from boston residents and walsh says he refuses to let the city absorb any budget overruns. the u.s. olympic committee ceo says leaders still believe boston could host the great olympics. bid leaders are focusing on los angeles, which they feel can be a strong contender against likely bids from paris and rome. barnacle. i like boston. >> well, actually it was a good move by mayor marty walsh because everyone knew it was in the water the u.s. olympic committee was going to take the bid certainly by labor day, so preemptive strike on the right side actually.
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>> the streets aren't big enough? >> no. >> it's a great sport city. >> the marathon would have to be shorter. >> i like your mayor. i was driving the city last month. there was a triathlon. i had all this road rage i can see it would be very controversial. i'm the city's actual residents. >> you can have it in los angeles, nobody would know the difference. >> okay. moving on. >> today, arizona republic the arizona cardinals have hired what is believed to be the first female coaching position a koeveng intern through training camp in the pre-season. she has played women's football at several levels and became the first female to play a fawn kicking position in the men's pro league. she was a member of the texas revolution in 2014 and even has a ph.d. in psychology which you will certainly feed. >> yes she will. the nfl has hired several incredible women over the past
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year. their cmo, wow, i'm hoping we have her own and also i think they have a new health expert looking at injuries along the way, we will have on the show. >> brigham young hospital. >> they're really amazing. yeah. >> i have renewed hope. i really do, after meeting some of these women. reuters, if anyone deserves a nobel prize, fifa president seth blatter, according to russian president vladimir putin, oh my god, he said in an interview i think mr. blatter or the heads of big international sporting federations of the olympic games deserve special recognition. if there is anywith under that deserves the nobel prize, it is those people. >> that's recommendation possible. >> blatter will step down as fifa president in february met with putin in saturday.
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he says he fully supports russia, of course holding the 20s 18 world cup. to deal seen there, no huh-uh. barnacle. >> new york post raising hell the port authority of new york and new jersey is going to knock down and rebuild, wait for it laguardia airport in new york city. >> god. >> new york governor andrew cuomo planned to modernize through a public partnership. four terminals will be fogged down unfortunately, not before friday when i go back on the shuttle. plans call for construction to end next year. it will create 8,000 jobs. the airport will be made operational during construction t. runway layout will remain the same. >> it will not be $1 over budget. >> or one day late. how long will this take? >> well how long does it take to take off at laguardia? >> oh. >> the airport will remain
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operational the entire time. >> the guardian. yesterday, president obama had a memorable visit as ethiopia's national palace with lucie, a 3.2-year-old fossil. lucie is the most complete skeleton of an early human ancestor ever found t. senior cure kurator says everyone, is connected. >> every single person here several billion individuals, including donald trump, are connected through there ancestry. >> i don't know what that says. >> did that just happen? donald trump made it to either i don't want twra. >> an international icon. >> there is globalization. >> even donald trump. >> and a hair insult right there as well. >> it's amazing. >> okay. joining us now from nbc news
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senior white house correspondent christensen, chris, what is the president doing today? >> well today, i don't know we will hear him talk about donald trump anymore t. big speech never before has a u.s. president addressed the african union. there will be a lot of pushing more opportunities for women and gimpls there will be new programs the u.s. will put forward, education for girls in the country where it's serious, 80% of cases are among teenage girls. that's something two issues they wanted to talk about coming here. there was a meeting yesterday with a number of leaders, they have given the war infexs there, the august sfeeventh deadline and fighting shabab ethiopians played a key role with that. he came here look wanting this
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to be a legacy. he feels strongly of what he has done in affect in spite of critics that say he hasn't done as much as his predecessors. he answered a question of mike huckabee. he could have brushed it off or responded directly to that but he spent four minutes talking about the republicans and what he sees as a lack of seriousness, what i'm hearing from some of the senior aides, almost he couldn't hold it in anymore. he really expressed this yesterday. he will be handing off the keys to the white house in 18 months and he doesn't feel like there are some people who are running for presidents who are taking it as seriously as he should. he made those comments knowing they would detract in the news coverage from the issues he wants to put forward here. i think that tells you something as well mica. today the big speech before the african union.
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>> we will be watching for that. eugene robinson, i want to ask you that the issues the president is addressing, where he is now, are extremely important to them. he did spend a great deal talking about the huckabee comments. >> yeah, he did. it was interesting that you know, he hasn't inserted himself in the presidential campaign like this today. so it was interesting he decided to go there. i think he may have been personally offended as i think a lot of people were frankly. i certainly was. and. >> what did you think when you heard them? what did you mean you were offended? >> my jaw was up. i have not been the auschwitz. i spent time at the holocaust museum here in washington which is it's an amazing place. it can be changed somehow, to
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throw around that analogy as richard haase said if such a cavalier and i think cynical way, frankly. i hate to use that word about mike huckabee with whom i disagree on a bunch of things. i always thought he was an honorable man. i thought it was cynical to get attention. it's not a lot of oxygen down there. it's sucked up by donald trump t. other thing, what he said totally doesn't get the whole purpose of israel is nobody is going to be marched towards any ovens. right. that's the whole ethos of the israeli state and so in a sense it sort of insults that history and a terrible history to say
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such a cavalier thing, it's awful. >> all right. eugene, thank you. coming up in the republican race to the white house. who is calling who crazy? mark leibovitz breaks down where the real outrage should be casey hunt joins the table as well. we'll be back. signs are everywhere. the lincoln summer invitation is on. get exceptional offers on the mkz sedan... the luxury small utility mkc ...the iconic navigator. and get a first look at the entirely new 2016 mid-size utility lincoln mkx. your choice of mkc mkz gas or hybrid for $369 a month with zero due at signing. so you're a small business expert from at&t? yeah, give me a problem and i've got the solution. well, we have 30 years of customer records. our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. my drivers don't have time to fill out forms. tablets. keep them all digital. we're looking to double our deliveries. our fleet apps will find the fastest
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>> lower past the hour. joining us msnbc contributor casey hunt and mark leibovitz. ask the question should we fear the political crazies? we write, in part this you could argue these are crazy times and there are thus worse things to be called tan a crazy. the affiliation suggests an admirable passion and less risk aversion, a willingness to disrupt. as trump is proving, there are clear benefits to being aligned with the crazies. especially in a republican field so crowded that it can be difficult to get separation. while party leaders have criticized trump for his tone. he throughouts this very criticism as emblemattic of a political status quo. not only is he correct about that, it's arguable the political status quo, itself a big bag of calcified crazy t.
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same tone cautions a hyper deferential, has dominated politics for a long time and yet our politics have not yet improved. okay. mark leibovitz, explain all those big words. >> oh it's a little early, man. >> yeah. >> essentially the point i'm trying to make in this column is that the crazy which john mccain used and got quite a bit of traction and feedback a few weeks ago is very, very frankly very subjective in this day and age. it's not a terrible ting when you try i to differentiate. see, that's a big word. differentiate ones self to actually be especially in a big crowded field to be aligned with a faction that will notice you and frankly is going to be very compassionate and frankly get you more attention. >> yeah, but if you get attention the way some people are getting attention, they're doing it and blowing up along
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the way, nicole wallace, we were talking, you can take it to mark. we were upset about jeb and how he is sort of elegantly slowly moving along saying the right thing when the right thing nodes to be said and fought saying the wrong thing. certainly staying away from crazy comments from destructive comments, from vitriolic comments from completely uncivil comments quite frankly unchristian comments. >> governor mccain in 2008 as the most upset and alarmed he bamg on his own campaign when sarah palin's crowds became really hyper radicalized. >> yes. >> so i don't remember him using the word crazies, but the post-distressed he was through his own run was when this same group became super animated around negative messages about then senator obama. so this is a consistent sort of red flag for mccain and i think what's changed is the party. i mean now you call them crazy.
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they're emboldened. i used this yesterday. we will be falk down with michael douglas, that is sort of this wing of the party. you know, they're so disgusted by prepack and establishment politics and politicians and the media's depiction of them that they are not only not insulted by being called crazy, they're animated an emboldened. i think they'll be a force. i think to use the word crazy as a derogatory term would be our own miscalculation, because they are some of the life blood of the republican party right now. >> i think using that term energizes a lot of them to take even more action. >> i think joe's political column a couple years back "crazy doesn't win." i think in it he talks about his dad, his dad votes for and supports and that guy always winning. mark define crazy. are you using it as a derogatory term? are we feeding into the same problem? are we being hypocriticalal
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here? >> mccain certainly was. i think what i tried to do in this column to use what began as a derogatory and flip it on its head, in fact this ask a badge of honor to a lot of people who lock the other, who turn this around again, i mean in an atmosphere in which will so so much frustration, there sa greater feed and challenge to be noticed with all the new media and candidates out there and entities out there, it's in fact it is whatever you can get to latch on to to be him to sort of get your message out. i think whatever the notion of crazy is there is not a coherent message behind this there is a sense, with donald trump, i don't know how long it will last h. se emblematic of something different. skraez a proxy for that.
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>> mark, you and i were talking about this certain way the other night. and if you take the phrase you know we got an announcement here, trying to clear the building in the backgrounds. >> not us. >> this field is filled with republicans, democrats, independents who listen to the insufferable boredom from the nubs of these politician you and i have heard it. everyone at this table has heard it. you say to yourself this is driving me crazy. so we're all crazy when it comes to attending rallies or listening to politics. they have driven us crazy. they have finally succeeded. >> well, exactly. it is again, it's on sort of a sliding scale. you can argue that you know whoever decided to put the olympics in boston to begin with is sort of crazy. >> there you go. >> i guess you will not be able to rent out that guest room you have right now? i know you were looking forward
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to. >> i have. the people from the country renting it out. they haven't heard about it yes. i got the deposit. >> okay. mark lebowitz thank you very much. we will be reading your piece in this sunday's "new york time's magazine." up next turkey steps up in the fight against isis. it may be a way for complication for a different key u.s. allie in the region. we will break it all down next. how may i help you? i heard i could call angie's list if i needed work done around my house at a fair price. you heard right, just tell us what you need done and we'll find a top rated provider to take care of it. so i could get a faulty light switch fixed? yup! or have a guy refinish my floors? absolutely! or send someone out to groom my pookie? pookie's what you call your? my dog. yes, we can do that. real help from real people. come see what the new angie's list c do for you. imagine - she won't have to remember passwords. or obsess about security. she'll log in with her smile. he'll have his very own personal assistant.
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complicator? >> i would think it is a significant game changer. i think it provides some advantages. a lot of details remain to be worked out in that turkish is setting it as isis more tends some potential problems with the u.s. >> richard, respond to what thomas said. how exactly. what exactly is the role? that can have a convoluted relationship. >> the initial relationship is turkey, a senior u.s. official described to me as the aorta for isis. that's the channel. seemed to decide after strikes against turkey itself the game of allowing isis to do its thing has become too expensive. the initials seemed positive. we will get involved. then within 24 hours, it became increasingly clear turkey's game was much more not to go after isis but to go after the kurds. they are quite honestly much
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more worried about kurdish nationalism and the potential of a kurdish state growing out of syria than isis. i think the net is yet bad news. it's another sign that turkey may be a form am allie under irduan. >> you have this 60 mile swath of border the kurds as richard indicated are our greatest allie, our strongest allie in that particular region when it comes to fighting isis. whether it's a down move or and up move for us in the long run is it not today perhaps the only move that the united states could help in assist making? >> well, we were really stuck here. we weren't getting access from turkish bases for bombing and the kind of under surveillance flights we needed to do and we were supporting groups that were in opposition to some of the turkish policies.
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so i think this does put us into a new area full of additional complications involving turkish domestic politics. it's going to be very difficult to iron these out. >> it's not worth it. what the kurd are our principal partners, this will be terrible for turkey. this will reignite civil strife in turkey. this is a bad development. let's fought kid ourselves. >> a rough day on wall street, a third straight day for chinese stocks stocks closed down 2 is% in volatile one-day drop since 2007 on monday. >> that is despite a plan by chinese regulators to buy shares if an attempt to stabilize the market and a cash injection by the central bank. coin's securities regulator also says it is investigating its shared dumping contributed to monday's giant losses. help us understand and how this
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impacts us and does it ever get better? >> the impact of markets, the bigger impact though on china. this is politically dangerous and threatening to the communist party of china. they were very happy to talk about how great the market was, they will take credit for it going up. they encouraged coin to invest certainly the market is tanking. they are extremely worried about the economic and political consequences for this regime. >> two or three elements mica read about the chinese market yesterday could have been read in late fall 2008 early winter 2009, here in the united states about our stockmarket. >> this is actually closer to half a century ago or longer. this is basically a fairly unregulated market. what you are seeing is, we had our own problems with regulation, i take your point, pike. but this is a much more immature
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i'm trying to think of the right word to use market without the regulatory machinery. now you see the government panicking. they are shutting down trading in stocks. they are talking all sorts of corrections, if you will are anti-market. they haven't fixed tear way out of this. >> the fundamentals of the economy is not strong in china. >> they are not. chinese growth is much much lower than the official numbers suggest. way below that. this will only exacerbate. >> thomas sanderson, before you go, i want your thoughts on the iran deem. does it create an element of stability or more turmoil? >> well, it's creating both and i think you are going to have at least the initial benefit of other states believing they don't need to move to acquisition of nuclear weapons, themselves, perhaps purchasing one from pakistan spending incredible amounts of money to develop them. but you are going to have countries that are going to see iran rising even greater as a regional rival. and will fortify themselves
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against the potential for what iran may do now it's freed up to act in greater ways. so there will be a little bit of both here. >> all right, thomas sanderson, thank you very much. coming up we will talk to for joe manchin about the iran nuclear deem. he says he has talked to all the countries involved and he will tell us where he stands now. zplmplts.
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. >> okay? >> you know what watching that i'm thinking about myself as a parent and i was thinking what an incredible father he is as well. you know i'm a fan of him. i think he'd make wonderful president. i think he makes me proud to be a republican every time he opens his mouth. it shows he is an extraordinary father, something you probably said to your kid in spanish and english. >> it shows there is still a huge gap of what the american people know about him and what he's really like. >> yes. >> that interview goes some way towards closing. he has a long way to go.
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you look at his favorable pulse standing, it's nowhere commensurate. >> the same with kasich. it's very similar. >> case sick starting with a blank slate, right? people don't have that much of a view of him. jeb bush is laboring under the problem of people think of him as a dynasty bush. >> i would think nicole you would say he is doing the exact right thing right now. >> the exact right thing. i look on the website t. relief in the dies everyone is talking about including all of us is trump. he is running his race. he think he is the least reactionary no donald trump. i think it will pay a dividend. we have to hope he has enough time for everyone to see him and the kind of campaign he's running and he is so different from his brother. i love his brother, too, but i think that he's going to be well served when the trump boom busts and people turn to him and he is running an excellent campaign. >> he can only win if he shows his heart. in that interview, he showed his heart. >> still ahead on "morning joe,"
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according to multiple new polls, donald trump is still leading the field of republican candidates for president, which i have to say this all will be very funny until the white house is covered in gold paint. it really is. a cnn pom has trump with 18% ahead of jeb bush in second place with 15%. this is how we do things now. we find our spouses on the bachelor ret and our presidents on "the apprentice." i want donald trump in long enough to see him making a speech in the rain. have we ever seen that hair wet before? i'm guessing it's going to look leak a drowning fer et. i would like to see it myself. >> welcome back. your panel is also with us. we have lots of politics. we will begin with a poll of republican primary voters in new hampshire that has donald trump in the lead. 24% choose trump, doubling the 12% who picked former florida
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governor jeb bush. why are you shaking your head richard haase? sample just watching the numbers. >> the pollsters find trump's rise hurts chris christie ted cruz the most and it has ohio governor john kasich moving up to 3rd and the merritt support saw a fight there. kasich placed 4th. it comes after nearly 2 million in ad buys in the state by an outcry group supporting him. >> my dad carried mail on his back. they called him john the mailman. they loved him. because he looked out for everyone in those neighborhoods. i learned something from my father. do your best to look out for other people. we turned ohio around. we created jobs and cut taxes and balanced our budgets. i spent 18 years on the armed
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services committee with some of the finest defense minds in the world. i was one of the chief architects of balancing the budgets. the first time we did it since pan walked on the moon. we haven't done it since. it can happen again. >> john kasichs for us. >> there is even optimism in there. oh my dpod. >> that will never play right? mark halperin? >> he is a successful two-term governor of ohio. and again, the power of that ad even though it's from an outside group. they got him on camera the power of that ad is that is what john kasich is selling, it's hard in 60 seconds to distill what youp to sell. that's the john kasich they want to sell. in new hampshire, 2 million boxes got him into 3rd place, 4th place. >> all these different polls, tell me exactly what gets a candidate into the debate. what poll and what standing do you have to have?
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>> national polls in terms of the fox debate. the national polls. they haven't been clear which national polls. it's the top ten, the average of the last five polls before the deadline early next week. >> so in order to jump from the bottom into that pack you have to say something so vitriolic and hateful that you get pushed -- how do you push your pollen ins up in those polls? >> if you think about the math of the poll. what's required. it's a needle in a haystack. you have to find the right seven people who will be polled who will change the ratings on the internet. >> you can't affect the average. >> the difference being in 8, 9th 10th 11th and 12th it will be a handful. i'll say, first debate fewer people still on fox, higher quality conversation i predict. no problem being in the first debate. the media will cover it t. highlights will be shown. i think for some people like say john kasich who will probably end up in that debate. george pataki lindsay great. it will be a high quality
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conversation. maybe carley fiorina. let's all treat that event just like the second one. >> absolutely. absolutely. all right. there is more drama among senate republicans as the rift widens between senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and senator presidential hopeful ted cruz. last night the senate authorized a highway bill cruz claimed mcconnell lloyd to him about whether a vote would be held on the bank. he continued his attack after the vote saying in part quote, this tonight, the mcconnell-reid leadership team pushed through another win for the washington cartel and they did so at the taxpayer's expense. worse still, the one person who had the ability to make sure the ex-im bank remained expired was the majority leader, rather than keeping the promise he made to every member of the party. he turned his back on the people. mcconnell reportedly met with
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republican senators who what is called a combative sit down. it took place after a staffer for senator mike lee e-mailed conservative groups about plans to force a simple majority vote on appealing obamacare lee backed down, cruz, over hoefr, reportedly stayed quiet.eugene, robinson, what is happening? what is going on with him? >> he's all over the map. the common stheem to ted cruz number one. he is running for president. he's not doing all that well, he certainly hasn't run away with this thing. it's unclear where this campaign goes or what the pace is there. when do people assume he is
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playing a longer game. maybe he eventually picks up the trump support, when that collapses, that's the belief of some people who are certainly going to collapse. i'm not sure it's going to collapse any time soon. ted cruz is as i said he's all over the map. can you become president by making that many enemies if your own party. >> nicole was right. there was a period i apologize to you for saying it. he tried not to comment. ted cruz is i think gene is right, he is alienating the establishment big time. i will say the goes to the question, i was trying to figure out why trump is getting support. ted cruz and mike lee don't like the way washington is working. they don't think it's working for the american people. i leave it to the people in the senate whether it's proper to criticize other senators in the context of the senate floor. in terms of shaking up walk saying business as usual has not
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served this country well t. deficit's too high washington is unresponsive to meet the needs of people. he is going to washington shaking things umm. rush limbaugh likes it. a lot of people in the main stream don't like it. tens of millions of people look at what ted cruz is saying things need to change here, they like it. if he will be a successful candidate, that's a big part of why. >> ted cruz is never well liked by the people in the organization that he serves the bush campaign in 2000 he was despised by his colleagues because he is not a team player. he tries to destroy things from the inside out. he's not in washington trying to shake up the status quo but innovating and billing coalition the shake up the status quo i think someone that goes this there, reaches across the aisle and says let's screw both our leadership, not to shaky up walk. not by doing a constant screw you to your party leadership. >> i agree by alienateing people he is decreasing his chances of
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winning. he is following his instijts only how to get things done and change washington. >> mike barnacle. >> i think he's trying to get attention, do what he thinks is right. >> no, i don't see that. >> was there something in that news read that we just had that an aide to senator mike lee was upset because mitch mcconnell or the leadership of the republicans in the senate would fought put another, yet another attempt to repeal obamacare on the floor? >> that's correct. >> was that accurate? sample we said that. >> what is wrong with these people? what is going on? >> are they so unbound? they reportedly the supreme court already ruled on this. >> they ruled on aspects. i still think it's bad policy. >> i understand that they made that clear. let's move on. >> let's move on. >> they never have an alternative. they're crazy. >> while it's like a dog just
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yammering away on a bone and won't let go let's go to this story. the house select party on benghazi announced the state department agreed to turn over 5,000 pages of documents related to the attack. in a statement, chairman trey dowdy said it was the largest packet of documents his committee received. this batch is not expected to contain e-mails involving hillary clinton, the clinton campaign said over the weekend she would testify publicly on october 22nd but the committee says a date has yet to be determined. i'm just going to keep going okay. meanwhile, hillary clinton laid out her plan to combat climate change after touring a transit station in des moines i, what there she called climb change quote, one of the most urgent threats of our time. >> that came after a day if which new poll numbers showed her under water, vermont senator bernie sanders creeping to within 15 points of her in new hampshirech mark halperin sums
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up the apparent trend in plume berg politics writing, quote, let's all please stop asserting that boerne fisanders can't beat hillary clinton in the democratic nomination race. sure, his odds are long. so far he's shown substance, grit and surprising appeal. sanders' spriegdz success has already influenced clinton's conduct and fortunes and there is every reason to believe he will continue to challenge her, influence her and create significant problems for her as the race continues. not long ago, few would have imagined that sanders could oppose any sort of threat to clinton's political fortunes. i believe people laughed. park. sanders might lose in the end. his successes thus far and going forward make it more likely that clinton will lose in the end, too. mark i'd add to that you got sanders doing what sanders is doing, which is how you eloquently stated it there. joe bind could jump in. this thing is fought completely
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not a done deal at all. >> the question is timing. i run through sort of the calendar of the year the way pat buchanan problem the way rick santorum weakened mitt romney t. problem is the filing deadlines. you have to try to get on ballots by december if you want to get enough delegates to compete with her. so the question is will sanders weaken her enough before december for somebody like joe bind john kerry or jerry brown to say i need to get in this race. >> eugene robinson do you scoff or take him seriously as a candidate? i think everybody should take him seriously as a candidate. how serious, we don't know yet. i want to see bernie sanders' appeal i think unproven to this point to other parts of the democratic coalition, to minorities to younger, he seems to be appealing to younger
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voters, does he appeal to women and the same demographics of women as the democratic party does in general. saying economic demographics. i just want to see how broad that appeal is. he you know he'd do really well in madison, wisconsin. will he do that well in charleston south carolina? >> gene i don't mean to put you on the spot. did you read the washington post story in louisiana over the weekend? >> i did not read it. >> i urge you to read it. bernie sanders did several events with african-american groups showed up as the only democratic candidate talked about his civil rights record talked about the importance of an empowerment agenda. i think people are underestimateing his capacity to broaden his appeal. you are right, it's untestified. i urge you how he spent his weekend in louisiana. hillary clinton is a formidable candidate, bernie sanders, so far, has been underestimated. i think we should give him a chance to see if he can broaden
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his appeal. >> richard haase, what do you think? >> i think the markets sort of outline the scenario which is interesting. if his numbers keep going on and hillary clinton looks vulnerable. at some point the democratic party establishment panic. look at her numbers and see someone else essentially, bern fisanders can't win but he can hurt her chance of winning. the party establishment will look for a savior t. real issue is whether that happens or the timing happens soon enough for it to be viable. i have no idea. that's an interesting thing to watch. >> i agree, you started to read about the story with trey dowdy, i think he has been a public servant in the benghazi documents. the development this week was it is possible that there are some classified e-mails or e-mails classified after the fact on her e-mail server. to the degree that this story, it already alarms the media. it already discusses the republican party. to the detroit alarms and deeply
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concerns the democratic base. i think the structure of the race could change at sort of a late hour. >> a sleeper issue with all the focus on hillary's e-mails. these involve her staff e-mails. watch what happens when the staff folks have tear e-mails related to benghazi and the gift brought up to capitol hill. >> two things if trump makes it rung as an independent could just turn everything upsidedown jeb bush. and you know i think the investigation is happening on capitol hill some are very legitimate. but they have to pick their battles. that's all i maents ineant in my tone. >> trey dowdy says he's not looking for drama. ted cruz was the conversation we were having. >> right. >> okay. . still ahead on "morning joe," brand-new polls show a majority of americans are in agreement with a nuclear deal with iran. do they support or oppose it? plus will mike huck a bow
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apologize for comparing the nuclear deal to the holocaust? he spoke out about it again moments ago. first, bill kearns with a check on the forecast. what do you dot? >> a lot of hot weather heading our way. this will easily be the hottest weekend for most people in this country. 28 people under heat advisories or warnings. let's start with the worse weather in the country this morning. that's in minnesota, from minneapolis southward into iowa and north of omaha, some thunderstorms are rolling through early this morning. wind damage is possible with those. later this afternoon, line two will move through. tornado threat low. that's good. the greatest threat will be a wind damage as we go throughout the afternoon. let's talk about the heat. there is the heat advisories and warnings for st. louis, kansas city, st. louis. the heat index in st. louis is probably one of the highest we will see, up to 110 this afternoon, it has a lot of the hot weather spreads to the east. we will see the hottest weather in areas of pennsylvania western no, even new york city
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with a heat index of 97 wednesday, nixon thursday. so you get the picture. the heat is here to stay. especially for the eastern half of the country. no relief in sight. even through the upcoming weekend. so once again the dangerous stuff is in missouri. few want some nice fall-type weather, go to the northern plains and the rockies, where it snowed yesterday yes snowed in some of the high ski resorts in montana. more "morning joe" when we come back we will leave you with a shot of a nice, hot and hazy new york city. i thought you said you were gonna test drive this buick first. i am test driving it. for 24 hours. where's the salesperson? at the dealership. nice buick! i guess that test-drive last night went well. actually, i'm still on it. you know, we're test-driving this buick for 24 hours, right?. yeah. so what are you doing? test-washing it. okay, well let me know when you're done, i'm gonna take it test-shopping. introducing the buick 24-hours of happiness test-drive. it's on your terms and a better way to take a test drive.
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iran 52% get the guy a coffee. >> a diet coke. >> for halperin a coffee for my comb. anything else, guys? >> a coffee too, please. >> richard haase wants coffee. i'm get it. >> 52% say they had like to see congress reject the agreement with iran while 44% say it should be approved. so now to arkansas governor and republican presidential candidate mike huckabee's harsh comments on the fallout from the iran nuclear deal which continue to impact the presidential race. >> under this president's foreign policy is the most feckless in american history. he's so naive that he would trust the iranians and he would take the israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven. >> the particular comments of mr. huckabee are i think a part of just a general pattern that
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we've seen that is would be considered ridiculous if it weren't so sad when you get rhetoric like this. maybe it gets attention and maybe this is just an effort to push mr. trump out of the headlines. headlines, but it's not the kind of leadership needed for america right now. >> do you stand by your comments? >> absolutely. absolutely i do. the last time the world did not take seriously threats that someone was going to kill massive amounts of jew, we ended up seeing 6 million jews murdered. we didn't take it seriously t. iranian government we're not talking a bloger hook, the iranian government has repeatedly said it's going to be easier to take the jews out because they're all concentrated in israel.
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we won't have to go all over the world and hunt them. three times i have been to auschwitz. when i talked about the oven door i have stood at that oven door, i know exactly what it looks like. >> here's what he said moments ago on the "today" show. >> the israeli ambassador to the united states calls your words inappropriate, some fellow republicans have called them offensive and outrageous and the anti-defamation lead spokesperson called them completely out of line and unacceptable. are you not backing down an inch? >> not at all. in fact the response from jewish people has been overwhelmingly positive the response from hom lo caust survivors the children of holocaust survivors. i was last night in an event. i was probably one of four gentiles in the event. it was a jewish event. people were overwhelming supportive. here's why. >> here's people saying just the opposite. >> i don't know. can anyone help me understand how that was abhorrent,
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distasteful, destructive. >> his words are all those things mica his sentiment articulating the real distaste with this deal the israelis feel is real. no one is excusing the words. >> i think you are. >> no i'm no. i said for the last hour and 23 minutes his words were the wrong words, jeb bush came out, a leading republican after trump came out and said those were unfortunate words, plenty of people are condemning the words he used. i think we all in this business take an inflammatoriory quote and obscure the issue. >> just like constant obsession and everyone else in the republican feels constant obsession with donald trump's words, let me ask you something. >> i'm not from this. >> words aren't the only problem. >> what donald trump said. >> i don't think that's what people were obsessing about. what donald trump said in a four
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second aside about john mccain he corrected and illegal immigrants. >> he said i like soldiers who aren't captured. >> we all said he should apologize, every republican candidate got out there. rick perry had the most articulate speech of his life about donald trump's words, everybody thought he should apologize. everybody thought john mccain deserved an apology as well. everybody thought he should apologize on what he said on illegal immigrants. i'm asking you, do you think that mike huck a bow should just move on because the sentiment was correct or was what he said apologized for? >> i don't think mike huckabee answers to us i think he answers to primary voters. no one endorse what is he said. >> you see little hip pom chrissy in the republican field not going after huckabee? >> i think it's a broad brush, jeb bush and scott walker both came out and said they don't
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want to go by those words. if you want to carve auto a few, the entire field did not stand behind huckabee's comments. >> a strong deal. >> you are skirting the real issue. >> we could be having a debate about the deal. >> it's interesting poll numbers. a majority of americans do not support the deal. we want to talk about huckabee three days that's fine. huckabee's comments are over the line. his comments are not being excused away by jeb bush who as i said after trump is the leading republican candidate. the leading spokesperson for my party. so i feel the party has do you know good job at saying this is not my message. instead of talking about substance, we are talking mike huckabee who will never be the nominee, but were intent on bashing him. >> huckabee's comments cheapen politics and history. that's one element. the other element, the republican candidates reaction
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to mike huckabee is like at minus 2 in the polls while trump was sailing at 20. >> 24%. >> that's why trump gets the reaction and huckabee hasn't yet gotten the reaction. the bake dilemma here though it gets back to the iran deal it gets back to that deal. hopefully, at some point in the next six weeks will be discussed and debated logically and his toshically in the united states senate and the american public will learn more about the deal that we know now. but at the root of it at the root of it and at the root of huckabee's comments is this is mike huckabee or anyone else who speaks of this deal in such a manner as huckabee did yesterday, do they really think the iranians are suicidal? do they really think the iranians will nuke tel aviv? because tehran within an hour will be a rubble of class if and sand if they ever did that. >> well, listen meek it gets
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to, do you believe the ayatollah? that is his stated position on israel the stated position the day the deal was announced. the day za riff was standing next to john kerry announcing the deem ayatollah was recommitting his countries and himself to the destruction of is ralg. so do you believe him? >> do you believe there is a split in the iranian political hierarchy? >> i believe there are people that run the country. >> he runs the country. >> the ayatollah runs the country. >> nicole, if you believe the stated position of the ayatollah that he wishes to destroy israel and wipe it off the map, you must also believe the stated position of the ayatollah and the iranian leadership that they will never build a nuclear bomb right? if that's what we're going by in assessing the deal. >> well, listen i don't have a vote, but the congress is going to look at this. i think the way people counting votes look at this is the
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republicans are opposed. democrats are getting a lot of pressure from their president, who put this as a choice between war or supporting a crummy deal. there are six or seven democrats that will have to answer the question you just asked. >> and i think also in this debate answer the question what is the alternative to this deal? is there, for example, the better do you el that everybody says there should be and i think there isn't. but, you know show me that there is? is the alternative military action? >> with joe manchin. richard. >> it's too late to get a better deal. this is the only deal will you have debates about. the deal does not prevent iran from doing a lot outside the deal to promote regional instability. the problem of non-compliance. i think the biggest issue with the deal is what happens if iran abides by it for ten or 15 years and afterwards has all sorts of options. so the fact that the administration is at the moment behind the american people is
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warning that they have yet to sell this deal. i'm not saying they can't. but september will be critical to them. they've got to make a better case for this agreement. >> all right. i think the question is did secretary of state john kerry successfully make the case for congress to support the nuke cheer deal with iran? we will ask someone who is really, i think, actually deserves a seat at the table compared to some of these candidates who should just be pushed out of the conversation. democratic senator joe manchin. he is next on "morning joe." which one arrives first? hint: it's not the one on the left. the speedy guy on the right is part of an intelligent system that creates the optimal trip profile for all trains on the line. and the one on the left? uh, looks like it'll be counting cows for awhile. so maybe the same things aren't quite the same. ge software. get connected. get insights. get optimized. wish your skin could bounce back like it used to? new neutrogena hydro boost water gel.
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. if you are elected president and you are the ones negotiating with iran in the future will stand in the oval office and direct the american people and say my fellow americans, i'm rejecting the iranian deal because it will march the israelis to the door of the oven? would you say that as president of the united states? >> that is exactly what i would say, we don't trust people who have threatened israel said they are glad they are congregated it makes them a one bomb country. >> as president of the united states will you use the words march the israelis to the door of the oven? >> yes, i would. >> oh my god, stop. >> we don't have to worry about it. god, why? >> he's not going to be president. >> good. that was more from mike huckabee's appearance on the "today" show. apparently he will be joining us
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tomorrow, joe's back. i don't know what difference that makes. i don't know a lot of people who think those comments were okay. i don't know one person. let me ask this guy, a member of the armed services committee, joe manchin of west virginia. mike huck a combee would say, joe, it's kind of obvious if you disagree with his comments. but i'm going to ask you anyway because you are a fair guy. did you think it was appropriate or destructive what mike huckabee said? >> it was not appropriate. i have known mike quite a while. we served as governor at the same. i have known mike, always considered mike to be rational. was easy to work with when he was the governor and the governor's association. it's just unbelievable what this hyperpolitics i guess casing the media, chasing the money and the presidential campaigns will do to you. that's not the mike i knew. >> no me either. let's put hyper politics aside, talk about the eastern nuclear deal you had a chance to see some parts of it first hand. what do you like about it? what do you not like about it?
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>> basically, it's not a perfect deal. there is not a perfect deal t. bottom line is do we go it alone or with other allies? right now we have a p 5 plus 1, plus the opinion of the people in the region that believe this is the right direction to go. i made my own phone calls. i spoke to four of the five ambassadors to the p5. they all said this if you pull away now, you go on your own. blue we know the sanctions were effective because we were all moving directly. directly against them and put some hurting onnine and tear economy. if we go it alone, everybody leaves us, we are back to where we were. i said this before mica also we have proven. we can drop the bomb any time any place anywhere. that's not a problem for the united states of america. if someone threatens our homeland, if we think they're a threat with key take care of that minimumtarily. do you preemptive if you might
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change the course if you will. that's all i'm saying if iran have they bamboozled us? i heard the word bamboozled. then they bamboozled most of the p5 and the rest of the world. i'd rather go with the world tan myself. >> mutual destruction is not assuring to anybody in the middle east. it doesn't translate well into hebrew. we want to stop iran from getting the bomb. senator, i understand tomorrow senator mccain called a special services committee hearing, he invited the national leadership the secretary of state, chairman, secretary of energy what are you asking for, what are you looking for tomorrow to help you physical out where to go on this? >> basically, do we have other options? everybody says there is a better deal. basically, it was discussed i could consider voting for wmt ve 45 more days to make a decision. okay. i'm leaning very strongly to saying, okay. let's try, going along with the
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p5 plus 1 if they come out with something new and say here's where they are in the bomb making decisions. this is what their intent is. we need to do something, i've always said we can do that and take cave of that that's what the facts show us. right now, we've slowed them down. we have been told they have enough material to make ten or 12 bombs. >> that has come kind of to a halt if will you the last year-and-a-half as talks have gone on. you know when you look back in history what they had in 2003 when we took tough lines, walked away, tried to put sanctions that weren't effective until the p5 came on then they ramped up to 16 19,000. now the concerns we have now, i have concerns over the missiles. i have concerns over the arms. i have concerns over human rights. i have concerns over their terrorist activity. we can still keep those sanctions on for those purposes and we will. i would wish the rest of the world would come on us and engage if that.
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not with the nuclear, because we are altogether. that's our goal is to keep them from getting a nuclear weapon period. >> mark halperin. >> senator, based on what you know now, which single part of the deal concerns you the most? >> i'm concerned about basically the missiles they're able to continue to develop and the arms are able to acquire and what the purpose of that and what we would be able to do before that mark. right now, i don't know how much we were able to stymie them and what their intent was if they were able to. these are questions i need to have answered. i will be looking at that, also basically, their terrorist activities, are they still supporting? everyone says the money they will be receiving, 150 million. we heard it's as low as 50 or 60 million. if they will get their oil fields up and running, they will take more money than what they have coming to them just for their infrastructure and their economy to get their economy moving again. so these are things we want to make sure we have in place and we can follow. >> hi senator, nicole wallace.
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we are obviously focused on our domestic politics in this country. does it trouble you at all the domestic politics in iran the day this deal was, they were chanting death to america and recommitting their plans and desires to destroy the state of israel? >> oh, nicole that's very troubling. let me say this there is not a democrat or a republican that i know in congress that doesn't support israel and will not go to war with israel against iran or any other, any other nation that's trying to destroy them. so let me make that very clear. we are committed. we are committed to support our friends the best allie israel. we will do that. some people says too soon, too late, this and that. the bottom line is what we have done up until now hasn't worked. now we have a group moving toke. yes, that concerns me i'm sure if they listen to our rhetoric on this side of the globe, it probably concerns them just as much from their end or their
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ideological belief. so one thing about talk is cheap in this gain. boy do we have a lot of that. >> mike barnacle. >> senator, if this deal goes down in the united states senate if it faels in the senate, with regard to the sanctions, how quickly do you think if things sas lapsed would france russia and the chinese begin doing business with iran? how quickly do you think that would happen? >> mike i can only share with you that i wanted to make that phone call to hear from the paed's myself if they had bought onto the deal. if they were a part of this deal and they were committed to the deal. they told me yes. i can only accept from what they've told me and accept them at their word and they did tell me this. if we pull out. we pull out by ourselves, that leads me to believe that they will continue to do what they think is in the best interests for themself and their own commission and not try to go together as a group. so that fall apart? i would assume it would. it will be each country for themselves.
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that's not a good scenario for us or for the middle east or for israel or anyone else. >> senator joe manchin, always god to have you on the show thank you very much. >> okay. miss you all. >> take care miss you, too, up next presidential candidates are criss-crossing iowa so did our next guest t. reporter who experienced iowa from end-to-end all at 17 miles an hour. we'll be right back. doers. they don't worry if something's possible. they just do it. at sears optical, we're committed to bringing them eyewear that works as hard as they do. right now, buy one pair and get another free. quality eyewear for doers. sears optical when you do business everywhere, the challenges of keeping everyone working together can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. at&t has the tools and the network you need to make working as one easier than ever. virtually anywhere.
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up? what did you see on the ground in your bicycle? >> well, during the ride all you saw was the enormous donald trump blue bus with modest 15-foot high letters that say "trump" alongside and martin o'malley field workers. those were the two campaigns on evidence going by on two wheels. >> mike barnacle. >> ray, let me ask you on the bike, ground level, you see people in a way you don't see in a car or a campaign bus or whatever do you think that the element that is so common to a lot of other places in america, that it should have been forgotten by the political system? >> iowa has some of the same challenges that a lot of states in the middle of the country do. the rural counties are emptying out. you can see that in many of the towns we pass through. which have terrible economic
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problems in a hyper local sense. their main streets are dying in some cases, there are a lot of boarded up stores. low capitalization stores secondhand shops. dollar stores. the cities are doing pretty well. you can tell the infrastructure is there. iowa is paradoxically becoming kind of an urban state with most of its people living in urban metropolitan areas. you saw, you know some of the people talking, talked about how their kids didn't want to stay in the state. iowa has that in common with the mid-section of the country. they have a 12 system that does very well in the rankings nationally. they send their kids to a network of very good state colleges and universities and then they leave iowa. and that's been a challenge that's been noted by governor after governor in that state and
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will you find similar stories as you travel in the dakotas and kansas and other places as well. >> all right. thank you very much. great to have you on the show. you aren't the only one that was busy. mike born cal, you were in l.a. over the weekend over the past week at the special olympics? >> a spectacular event. >> it was amazing. i was following you on instagram and a whole bunch of other people. just most incredible stories coming out of there. he's written about it in the daily beast i believe? 12k34r. >> yeah. >> set up what i'm about to read. >> the portion of the piece you will read has to do with a special leaks on saturday morning in which they heard from another special olympic athlete tim harris that began as a 13-year-old special olympian born with downs syndrome. he now runs a restaurant tim's place in albuquerque, new mexico he serves hamburgers and
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hugs. >> yes. >> he was electric with the other special olympians and their reaction to him. >> you are right, i was born with harris spoke about being scared there was more than a few adults across the continents in washington, d.c. who spend an enormous amount of time each day trying to inject fear in our politics. iran means certain war, as if the region isn't already broken by war. a proposal to give common sense to welfare, fewer jobs for americans, expanded health care coverage bankruptcy that is our politics today. you talk about tim you write about him and what the real definition of courage is. >> courage is finishing to a special olympic athlete. it's finishing. no matter where you finish and whatever inendeavor you're involved in, a race a swimming meet, you finish. the enormous pride and feeling
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of fulfillment is palpable when you're there with the athletes. the other thing is they had athletes from all over the world. you're in the tunnel before they introduce each country after the other on saturday. you have the iranian team next to the iraqi team. and they're mingling together. i asked an iraqi athlete through an interpreter, obviously, what she thought. oh, he loves this country. i asked the interpreter, ask her to tell me what she likes. the question was asked. she looks at me and the answer comes ss back. she loves cherry coca-cola. >> i'm not going to argue with that. that's great. i love reading your pieces mike. thank you for this one. it's in the daily beast. you're going to finish writing a book some day? >> move on. >> we'll be right back.
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policy is the most feckless in american history. he's so naive he would trust the iranians and he would take the israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven. >> he would take the israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven. >> yep, that's about the best he could do for comedic reaction. good morning, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, msnbc contributor mike barnicle. manager editor of bloomberg politic, mark halpern. former communications director for george w. bush and the view
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nicolle wallace is here. president of the council on foreign relations, richard haass haass, and in washington, associate editor of the "washington post" and political analyst eugene robinson. good to have you all obboard. joe on assignment, back tomorrow. we have a couple things to begin with this morning. look at this new poll of republican primary voters in new hampshire. donald trump has the lead 24% choose trump, doubling the 12% who choose former florida governor jeb bush. they find trump's quick rise takes votes from nearly all his aponets but hurts chris christie ted cruz the most. it also has john kasich in third, tied with walker. i don't know if that's wishful thinkful on my part but that's kind of helpful. >> i think he will be second in the new hampshire poll by labor day.
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>> why? what's the ridiculous just completely zany stuff he's saying that's getting him to the top of the pack. >> he spent $2 million on tv ads in a time where no one else is advertising. >> they must be vitriolic. >> they're him talking to a camera, and he's a great cultural fit for the state. he has norsusenator sununu helping him. if he goes into second it's not quite a paradigm shift, but it means jeb bush and chris christie are going to have to deal with the governor of ohio who is saformidable candidate. >> a really solid spot he's had on the air there. >> performing great. >> he's the same on the spot as he is when he is in a supermarket in new hampshire. he's the same person. he's very good retail and he's very good on tv. >> and he'll never make it. this comes after the nbc/marist poll saw a spike in the
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governor's support there this week with kasich placing fourth. so just out this morning, bloomberg is reporting that donald trump's total worth may be closer to one third of what he said. >> you're kidding. >> that's what they're reportling. he claims he's worth at least $10 billion, but an analysis done by bloomberg billionaires index puts the number closer to $2.9 billion. the analysis reports, for instance, his golf and resort properties are worth about $570 million. trump has said previously they are worth about $2 billion. according to bloomberg, he did not disclose his methodology. >> it's hard to put a price on a golf course. some would say it's priceless. >> that's where i think you would put it. the report acknowledges there may be other assets the analysis doesn't include like 11 entities
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on hisficial report that have no values or incomes and doesn't attach a value to his brand. so what are they saying? are they saying he's exaggerating or he's exaggerating they think maybe. >> there's some missing assets, but you know, he may be worth closer to or more from the analysis because there were things my colleagues couldn't get. >> you're right or you're wrong. what is bloomberg saying? >> he's the richest person ever to run for president and he has billions of dollars. >> that's not the question. >> he puts a lot of value in his brand and he errs on saying his brand is worth more than some independent an lstzs would say, but he's still quite rich. >> yes, he is. >> doesn't matter. you don't know what something is worth until you try to sell it. >> help me. am i being a cucanku curmudgeon? >> he's a zillionaire.
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>> is he lying? >> this is only a lasting ding on him in lying and fabricating about himself and his life becomes a record. >> we're saying an appraisal of some of the properties done independently is different than what he appraises things at. >> which is sort of consistent with him describing himself as you know the mexicans love me am blacks love me. is there any reality -- this only becomes part of the inescapable narrative of trumpism if it attaches itself to other things we have learned to be true about him. to the degree everything he says is sort of his own version. >> it sounds like bloomberg has their own version. >> why this is interesting is because his wealth and financial success and truth telling are big parts of the question of how sustained his appeal will be. >> it doesn't sound like you have it nailed. >> there's no way to completely nail it down. it's hard to value assets. >> it does not matter.
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>> gene help me out here. >> mike barnicle is out. $3 billion is a lot of money. at least in my book. i mean you know i kind of wish i had $3 billion. >> okay. >> so i think, you know and i actually kind of think that bloomberg answers a fundamental question. there are people who have argued that donald trump's net worth is you know, in the low hundreds of millions of dollars, and in fact, bloomberg says he is a billionaire. and maybe it's not capitalized $10 billion. maybe it's capitalized $3 billion. >> move on. richard says i should move on. >> a rigorous look at his wealth as you could do without him opening his books. >> this gives him the opportunity at some point today to say bloomberg is stupid. they make these patterns computers that nobody uses. they use mine. >> there's something far more important that i think we need
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to talk about, which i'm surprised that certain republican candidates have chosen not to. but we're going to move now to former arkansas governor and republican presidential candidate mike huckabee's harsh comments on the fallout from the iran nuclear deal which continue to impact the presidential race. >> this president's foreign policy is the most feckless in american history. he's so naive, he would trust the iranians and he would take the israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven. >> the particular comments of mr. huckabee are, i think, part of just a general pattern that we have seen that is -- would be considered ridiculous if it weren't so sad. when you get rhetoric like this it, maybe it gets attention and
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maybe this is just an effort to push mr. trump out of the headlines. but it's not the kind of leadership that is needed for america right now. >> do you stand by your comments? >> absolutely. absolutely, i do. the last time the world did not take seriously threats that someone was going to kill massive amounts of jews we ended up seeing 6 million jews murdered. we didn't take it seriously. the iranian government we're not talking about a blogger here. we're talking about the iranian government has repeatedly said that it's going to be easier to take the jews zs out because they're all concentrated ipizally. three times i have been to auschwitz. when i talked about the oven door i have stood at that oven door. i know exactly what it looks like. >> so israel's ambassador to the united states a staunch opponent of the iran deal he
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would never use those words or question the president's sincerity. and presidential candidates have begun to weigh in. ted cruz said huckabee quote, is exactly right to highlight the threat that the obama nuclear deal poses to the nation of israel. it is a sad day, he says when the president of the united states cannot or will not see the truth. i would say this is a sad day, actually. rick santorum also offered his support. >> iran is very clear that they want to destroy the state of israel, wipe out the jews in israel. a little shocked that this is getting the kind of pushback that it is. i think it is clear that this is iran's intent. >> at least two other of his fellow candidates did not share his opinion. >> i have been to israel not as many times as mike huckabee who i respect, but the use of that
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kind of language is just wrong. this is not the way we're going to win elections. that's not how we're going to solve problems. unfortunate remark not quite sure why he felt compelled to say it. having said that this is a bad deal. i can see why people are angry. >> again, much like mr. trump, with huckabee or anybody else i'm going to let them speemak for themselves. i certainly don't use language about that. i tell people why i'm against the iran deal. it's a bad deal. >> i'm disappointed and i'm really offended personally. i know governor huckabee. i have a cordial relationship with him. he served as the governor of arkansas. but i find this kind of inflammatory rhetoric totally unacceptable. one can disagree with the particulars of the agreement to
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put a lid on the nuclear weapons program of iran. and that is fair game. but this steps over the line. >> governor huckabee issued this response to clinton soon after. he says quote, how many times will iran's leaders call for israel's annihilation before hillary wakes up to this existential threat? how many murdered israelis will it take for hillary to express as much outrage at iran as she did at my defense of israel? so, then there's this wrinkle to the story. sam stein of the "huffington post" dug up that in 2008 huckabee actually called for intense diplomacy. intense international diplomacy, economic sanctions with iran and said that quote, we might be able to live with a contained iran. vowing iran wouldn't get nuclear weapons on his watch, but he made it clear iran could be brought to the table. so let's go around the table.
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i'm sorry. i think mike huckabee might be two people. describe them richard haass. >> let me make an argument that there ought to be a more toreatorium on two things. one, a reference to the holocaust. no one should be able to make comparisons to it. secondly thein the iran debate you need a unique historical dwiptic moment. there's grounds for being serious seriously critical of the iran agreement. we need a serious debate on this through september. either way, pass or fail this is going to become a major feature of american policy and national security. >> why it is so tough for all of the republican candidates to do what they did to trump for his comments, which i think we could put them on scales and huckabee's would drop the scale to his side. >> listen the two leading
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republican candidates said exactly the right thing. and i am very proud to be a republican in support of this field. jeb bush and scott walker said exactly what you would hope a president would say when someone in their own party lets the rhetoric cross the line. the substance of what he's saying, the israeli leaders are horrified by the deal but the language has obscured what was in other words a very vital point. i thought jeb bush and scott walker handled it perfectly. >> you do see the lemmings rushing to castigate trump as a cancer. and several republican candidates being -- >> i don't think anyone thinks mike huckabee is a cancer. i think this comment crossed a line. i don't think mike huckabee is viewed by the vast majority of grassroots republicans as the same cancer to conservatism as donald trump is. >> i'm wondering what after thinking about it for a day, you thing about what huckabee said. >> we had a strong reaction on
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the set. i think the republican candidates who won't denounce this but said they're denouncing trump are cowards. that's a harsh thing to say. >> jeb condemned the comments. >> scott walker didn't really. >> he didn't go there. come on, guys. listen to what he said. my initial reaction yesterday, i have to say, i was completely shocked. i hadn't seen the comments. so i saw them in real time. i was completely shocked. take a look. >> republican presidential candidate mike huckabee is facing criticism for apparently comparing the nuclear deal with iran to the holocaust. former arkansas governor said in part, quote, this president's foreign policy is the most feckless in american history. it is so naive that he would trust the iranians by doing so he will take the israelis and march them -- oh, god -- okay. into the doors of the oven. i had heard about the parallel to the holocaust. i had not read it until this
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moment, and i am horrified. >> it went on from there because so many people were astounded. all day yesterday, i was approached by people in the street abilityout this story. really really upset at this appalling remarks by a candidate for president to be sure this is not a denunsiation of barack obama or john kerry's negotiating skills. make no mistake, mike huckabee likened president obama and john kerry cutting a diplomatic agreement with iran to adolf hitler's systematic murder machine, lumping them with the extermination plan for millions of people. this is how the reaction went on later in the show as the weight of those comments sank in. >> if you have been to auschwitz, if you have been to any of these places where people were killed and you see the piles of glasses, the piles of hair, the piles of shoes, and
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the piles of clothes, and every bit of their humanity that had to be stripped away handed over, as they went and then burned to their deaths among other things it's really not a good comment to say. it's a deal breaker. it should be over for him. the fact that he's doubling down, it should be doubled over. truth be told i like mike huckabee. he's been a friend of the show for years. he sat at the table many times. smart, witty, charming. i don't agree with everything he has to say, but i love he's a man of deep religious convictions. or so i thought. a former southern baptist preacher. we talk about how he blessed me on the show for my sins. i think of being a democrat on one of his visits. so much fun. and he was fun. and quite frankly, i do not see that mike huckabee in these comments. i see some sort of candidate desperate to get on the debate stage, and doing anything anything, to make that happen. people of good faith have strong opinions about the iran deal. many have had tough questions
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about the iran deal including joe on the set. the antidefamation league ambassador dermer and many others. but even many who strongly oppose the deal were dismayed by his comments. in 1933 europe's jewish population was over 9 million. 12 years later, the nazi death machine had killed nearly 2 out of 3 alongside hundreds of millions of others who they choked with gas, tortured starved, shot or burned. all deaths that took a place away from the battlefields of world war ii. the forced marches continued until may 7th of 1945 the day before the nazis surrendered to the allies. when mike huckabee said president obama is figuratively marching israelis to the oven door, i hope he remembers that people were actually marched to the oven door. their intent was to wipe out an entire race. the comparison is certainly
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unfit for a preacher. or a presidential candidate. and it's not the mike huckabee we know not even close. i'm surprised, really at how different the reaction from the republican field has been given their obsession with donald trump, given their fear from donald trump their collective desire to wipe him off the face of the earth. how about actually saying the right thing? just say the right thing. it should be easy. this should be an easy one. huckabee should apologize. even though at this point it would be empty since he has doubled down and his fellow republicans should have the guts to do and say the right thing. and they don't. we'll be right back. the signs are everywhere. the lincoln summer invitation is on. get exceptional offers on the mkz sedan... the luxury small utility mkc ...the iconic navigator. and get a first look at the entirely new 2016 mid-size utility lincoln mkx. your choice of mkc mkz gas or hybrid
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22 past the hour. from the bausoston globe, the city's mayor is pulling his city out of the u.s. olympic committee's 2024 bid process. the proposal experienced significant opposition from boston residents. and walsh says he refused to let the city absorb any budget overruns. the u.s. olympic committee ceo says bid leaders still believe boston could host a great olympics. bid leaders are now focusing on los angeles, which they feel can be a strong contender against likely bids from paris and rome. barnacle, i like boston. >> well actually it was a good move by marty walsh because everyone knew it was in the water that the u.s. olympic committee was going to take the bid from boston anyway certainly by labor day. pre-emptive strike on the right side, actually. >> the streets aren't big enough to hold the olympics. a great sports city but they can't hold the olympics. >> marathon would have to be shorter. >> i was driving in the city
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last sunday and there was a triathlon, and i had this thought, how horrible would it be to have the twoolympics here for two weeks. i can see it would be controversial. >> you could have it in los angeles. no difference. >> okay. moving on. today, arizona republic the arizona cardinals have tired what is believed to be the first female to hold a coaching position of any kind. jen walter joins the team as a coaching intern through training camp and the preseason. walter has played women's football at several levels and became the first female to play a non-kicking position in the men's pro league. she was a member of the indoor football league's texas revolution in 2014 and even has a ph.d. in psychology, which she'll certainly need. >> yes, she will. the nfl has hired several incredible women over the past year. their cmo, wow. hoping we have her on. and also i think they have a new health expert especially
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looking at injuries along the way, who we're going to have on the show. >> the head of bregigham women's hospital. >> they're really amazing. let me tell you something. i have renewed hope wrfrb i really do after meeting some of these women. okay reuters, if anyone deserves a nobel prize, it's embattled fifa president sepp blatter? what? that's according to vladimir putin. oh, my god. he said in an interview, i think people like mr. blatter or the heads of big international sporting federations deserve special recognition. if there's anyone who deserves the nobel prize, it's those people. >> that's recommendation possible. >> okay. blatter, who will step down as fifa president in february met with putin saturday in st. petersburg. blatter said fifa fully supports russia, of course, holding the 2016 world cup. no deal seen there, no uh-uh.
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>> "new york post" the port authority of new york and new jersey is going to knock down and rebuild, wait for it laguardia airport in new york city. andrew cuomo announced a plan to modernize and expand the facility through a public/private partnership. the four terminals will be knocked down and built into one larger terminal unfortunately, not before friday when i go back. plans call for construction to begin next year. an estimated $4 billion and will create 8,000 jobs. the airport will remain operations during construction and the runway layout will remain the same as will -- >> not one dollar over budget i protect. >> or one day late. >> how long will it take? >> how long does it take to take off at laguardia? >> oh, god. >> the airport will remain operational the entire time. >> "the guardian." yesterday, president obama had a memorable visit at ethiopia's
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palace with lucy, a 3.2 million-year-old fossil. lucy is the most complete skeleton of an early human ancestor ever found. the senior curator from the california academy of sciences says it shows how everyone even political opponents, are connected. listen. >> every single person here -- >> is connected. >> they can come to this ancestry. i don't know about his hair. >> that's amazing. >> did that just happen? donald trump made it to ethiopia. >> international icon. >> globalization at work. >> even donald trump. >> and the hair insult right there in ethiopia. amazing. coming up on "morning joe," leigh gallagher of fortune magazine is here to look at why humans still have advantages over robots but not for long? >> and speaking of artificial intelligence, brian sullivan joins us as well.
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china? go. >> china is still struggling. the stock market fell around 1.7% last night. that's on top of an 8.5% drop two nights ago. put that in perspective, our dow jones industrial average has only dropped 8% or more ten times in its entire history. china lost multiple trillions in market value in just 60 days. the government trying to intervene. this is not greece a small economy. this is the second largest economy in the world. one of the fastest growing and most important economies in the world. the stock market is absolutely sinking there. it is sparking a little concern. also, you have to pay attention to puerto rico. on august 1st we're going to see a debt default at least on a small payment, but that small payment is being seen as representative of puerto rico's overall ability to repay $72 billion worth of dent that is outstanding. so puerto rico could indeed be
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headed for its own default, and the price of oil starts to slide. i understand it's good news for listeners when it comes to gas prices, but it could lead to another round of capital spending and job cuts. more than 100 jobs have already been lost. >> leigh gallagher is here. go ahead. >> do you think investors here are shrugging off concerns about china more than they should? >> i don't know about more than they should. it's an excellent question. moments before we got on air, i got a stat from the team that is fantastic which said china has had ten bear markets. a bear market means stock falls more than 20% from their high. they had ten of those recently and it's never caused a bear market here in the united states. so in other words, china and the u.s. may be decoupling. we buy a lot of stuff from china, but we sell much fewer stuff to china. so i don't know if it's going to have a negative impact on our
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economy. i guess you could make the argument that if global concerns greece china, happen money will come to the united states because we'll be viewed as perhaps more of a safe haven. >> brian sullivan, thank you very much. li is here looeg is here with a look at fortune, which says humans are underrated. i like the article a lot. give us the thesis. >> basically, we have been so afraid of computers taking our jobsering robots taking our jobs. the consensus is starting to be that the large-scale takeover of thinking tasks by computers may have run its course. and if you look at the jobs in the industries that are going to thrive in the next five ten years, the skills that will do well and will be needed are the things that precisely make us cume human, the things only humans can do emthy, consensus building, cultural sensitivity. all these things if you look at the sectors that are growing,
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health care hospitality, education, this bodes well for us. >> i think you said us as looking at me. because, sorry, i looked at the list. >> it is about you. >> i look at that list. i mean it just seems like it bodes well for women. >> it does. it does absolutely. all of these skills and i mean these are not stereotypes. it's not stereotypes to say that women leaders are better at consensus building and have more -- are better at reading emotional cues. >> but they are. >> we have seen this in business. look at the way mary barra led gm after she took over came out and apologized. christine lagarde has said things would have been different if there was a man in the room in the financial crisis. even last week -- woman, sorry. google reported earnings first quarter from the new cfo, and she said everything wall street has been waiting to hear. we're going to share more open up et cetera. these skills do happen to be
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better suited to women, not that men don't have them. >> anyone disagree or want to take it somewhere else? >> the research shows groups of entirely women are better than groups that include just one man. >> we do say that. there's also another analogy. when you have one employee who doesn't get with the program, it can contaminate the rest of the workplace. that holds true in little meetings smaller groups as well. >> is this a gag segment? >> i'm sending my daughter money because we also multitask. >> is this a gag segment or is this a legit segment? >> it's legit. it's "fortune." what are you talking about. >> how good is the view when joe is on. >> "the view"? >> it's great. >> that's my point. >> that makes it a point. this kind of stuff robots can't do. they can't have this conversation. >> we have had them on here before. >> they can't fight with my
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daughter. >> what fields are going to do well? well it's interesting. the fields that are going to benefit from this are education, health care hospitality, any kind of leadership role. but you know medical diagnosis. we say in the story that a robot can't give a medical diagnosis. there's something to bedside manner, or judges. there are things that need human skills. but the interesting thing, i think, is what this brings up for silicon valley where famously, many of the people who do the best out there kind of lack this sort of emotional or intuitive cue reading. so what does this mean for things like s.t.e.m.? the answer is yes, s.t.e.m. and science and engineering is important, but it's not just about being an engineer. it's about being a an engineer who can also collaborate and be friendly. >> that was the genius of apple, inventing technology that people want to use. >> right, exactly. >> as technology -- as the proficiency of technology
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increases, is it that those fields that have been most impacted by robotic progress will be even more so impacted? >> they'll continue to be impacted. if you look at where the growth is coming, it's from other things. for a really long time, the computers doing our work focused early on on replicating labor. henry ford said every time i want a pair of hands, there's a brain attached. now, the brains matter. >> i am sending my daughter money now, and it's being done through the computer. i'm serious. that used to happen. it used to go to the bank -- >> you're partnering with the computer. >> i am, and it's being very emotional. >> you're right. we underestimated. we used to say, a computer will never be ail to translate languages. when you have a call in skype in real time in another language it will translate it for you. we have underestimated it in the past. in the future the things that make us human will be much more in demand. there's no cause to worry.
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>> i get the female thing because the mechanics of it can be done by a computer or a man, but the part that takes the other parts of the brain, feelings sympathy. >> we do that well. >> collaboration. it's too easy. the national highway safety administration is fining fiat chrysler $105 million for failing to properly recall close to 11 million vehicles. the largest fine ever levied by the federal agency according to agency officials 23 different safety recalls were not properly completed in a timely manner. fiat chrysler is beginning the prusz to buy back nearly 500,000 vehicles. it rates higher than the current market value. that sounds like a big ouch. we'll follow that. still ahead, a dramatic twist in a deadly hit-and-run two years ago. a man who didn't commit the crime is free again after spending a year in prison. we'll explain who he was trying to protect. >> plus, the woman accused of
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believe that she will plead guilty acknowledge that she did smuggle into the prison hack saw blades a punch tool a chisel and a screwdriver. the hack saw blades hidden in frozen hamburger meat. smuggled to richard matt david sweat has since told investigators that they used those tools to cut through the pipe the steam pipe in the prison they used to escape. we have also learned this morning that she spoke to investigators for 20 hours over a span of four days. she showed up at a local police station unannounced and voluntarily when she heard about the prison break, as we know she had told investigators that she was supposed to be the getaway driver but she got cold feet and instead went to the police station and apparently told everything she knew to investigators. apparently -- they hope the
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lawyer hopes that that will help when it comes to sentencing. she faces a maximum of seven years in prison. >> john yang thank you. we'll follow that story. in milwaukee father is set to be released from prison after he was put away for a chyme he didn't commit. that's because, authorities say, his son is the real person responsible for a deadly hit-and-run. kevin tibbles explains. >> ron silva chose to do the time for what he says was his son's crime. two years served for a hit-and-run outside this milwaukee tavern that killed a father of three and injured a woman. >> never seen anything like it before. very unusual. >> but that conviction was thrown out. the 2013 accident was picked up by security video. it may be disturbing. as it shows the impact and a white van leaving the scene. the father turned himself in saying he was behind the wheel. he was sentenced to five years in prison trying to keep his
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21-year-old son juan silva jr. out of jail. silva's lawyer said the father turned on his son who was getting into trouble while he sat in jail. >> he was very disappointed his son wasn't using this opportunity to clean up his act. >> the man who justified him as juan silva, sr.'s elder brother said he was only doing what he thought was best for his family. in response to an inquiry by nbc news, the woman who survived the accident lashed out at silva. a parent especially a father is supposed to teach his child right from wrong. not encourage lies and deception. juan silva, sr. had his conviction vacated. juan silva jr. will appear in court next week facing three felonies. he will also have to face his father. up next it's inspired millions of children from multiple generations. the new documentary that tries to answer the question, is lego just a toy?
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>> lego. >> lego. >> lego. >> it's a creative tool. >> it's a way that people are expressing themselves. >> it's creating energy. >> it's a language. >> there is an adult fan community. >> geeks, people like me. >> it's not what's on the front of the box. you can create whatever you want out of this toy. >> we saw a great potential for combining lego and computers. >> shot for shot remakes of famous films. >> well that was a look at the new documentary "a lego brickumethary." given the disparate works that both of you have been involved with, a lot of stuff off the front pages of our lives, especially from the continent of africa, plights of refugees why legos? >> well i guess in a way why not lego? indeed, we have done more serious films, and this was an opportunity for us to do something fun. actually, a film that our families could watch.
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and you know the phenomena of lego right now was so massive. it was almost impossible to avoid. we were given the opportunity to make the film and had a great time making it and hope audiences have a great time watching. >> talk about the massive impact on legos. i think many people think legos, you're 5 years old, you're playing with legos, but it goes beyond that. >> sure the impact is enormous. you think about lego pieces you could have bought in the 1950s, you could still integrate with pieces today. it's a very versatile system. i think it's a system that people of all ages are embracing. it's not just kids. in the film we focus on adult fans of legos. people that have lost -- they call it the dark ages which is a period from when you stop playing with legos and then you bring them back again all these years later. it's a creative tool. it's a way for people to learn about science and explore an artistic side they may not have developed as much as they would like. >> what is the history of legos? who invented the lego?
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>> every country wants to appropriate legos but it's in fact a danish company. a danish toy company that really moved to this system of plastic interlocking bricks in the '50s. as david said it's really you know really hasn't changed since then. >> that's a really rare example. i mean we're in this technology overload society. this is a product that is basically exactly the same. the technology is the way those things interlock, and that hasn't changed at all. and yet the company has evolved and done -- the technology has changed in bigger ways i guess. the creations and everything. what ways has it changed? >> well in some ways the company didn't recognize this huge fanbase that had grown up around it, a fan base we profile in the film. so in fact the company had some difficult times about ten years ago. it's hard to believe because it's the number one toy company in the world now. but what they did is they kind of turned around and
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acknowledged the audience that was doing all the stuff with the so-called toy that they didn't expect. and they have embraced that, and i think that's part of their success now. >> what about the implementation of doing the idea of a documentary on legos. did somebody come up to you and say how about doing a document documentary on legos instead of africa? >> the idea comfrom initially one of our producers, daniel and then daniel approached me and it was an enormous project. can you imagine the responsibility of doing a film about lego? we want to make the lego die-hard fans happy. we want first and foremost to make families happy. you know this is a film and i think we have been successful at it, that a 10-year-old and a 40-year-old could go and really enjoy. >> there are tons of kids toys where you build stuff. what is the magic? is it the interlocking, the way the pieces feel in the hand? >> the interlocking, the system that they called clutch power,
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which is that system of two bricks, the studs and tubes they could cut together. >> and click apart. we know that click. >> exactly. >> what's the biggest, craziest thing you have seen made out of legos? >> well, we follow in the film the building of the largest lego creation ever. which was a life-size x-wing revealed here in times square. we followed the making of that made in the czech republic. we follow the reveal in times square. pretty amazing. >> also a great build from a woman builder named alice finch who builds this enormous set. it goes on forever. >> who knew? lego. great stuff. a lego brick umentary. in theaters on itunes. friday, july 31st. thanks very much. and thanks for bringing lego to our attention. we appreciate it. up next what if anything did we learn today?
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very funny until the white house is covered in gold paint. a cnn poll has trump with 18%, ahead of bush with 15%. we find our spouses on the bachelorette and our presidents on "the aprepts." i want donald trump to stay in long enough to see him making a speech out in the rain. have we ever seen that hair wet before? i'm guessing it's going to look like a drowning ferret but i would like to see for myself. time to talk about what we learned today. leigh gallagher, what did you learn? >> i knew this but imagine in the coming market i think we should pay more attention to what's happening in the china markets than we are. >> mark halpern, anything? >> i learned the new cnn poll suggests the president has not suck saesfully sold the iran deal yet. >> mike barnicle. >> i learned mike huckabee is just the beginning of the continued downward spiral in
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politics as people try to outtrump trump. >> stay away from that. kasie hunt what did you learn? >> forgive me for going back with these two, but i learned just one man in a group brings a whole group down. >> and we have two. >> that is where we end the show today. if it's way too early, it's time for "morning joe." now, "the rundown" is straight ahead right here. have a great day. and good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. first on "the rundown" this morning, watching developments on several fronts in the race for the white house. republicans jeb bush and mike huckabee are both making headlines. monday, i sat down with the former florida governor for an interview entirely in spanish. everything was on the table, including those contentious comments from mike huckabee where he links the iran nuclear agreement to the holocaust. this morning, the former arkansas governor is not backing away from those remarks. he has
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