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members? >> i'm -- i'm immune. >> and lion uproar. the brutal slaying of a beloved lion in zimbabwe is condemned around the world, including in these bitter comments from a late-night tv host. >> the big question is why are you shooting a lion in the first place? i mean i'm honestly curious to know where a human being wolf compelled to do that? how is that fun? >> good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. new england patriots quarterback tom brady is reporting to training camp today. practice is tomorrow. after the nfl commissioner upheld a preliminary decision to sideline brady for the first four games of the upcoming season. the league dropped a bombshell
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late tuesday saying that brady had his cell phone destroyed just before meeting with independent investigators. this morning brady responded in a facebook post that said i have never written, texted e-mailed to anybody at any time anything related to football air pressure before this issue was raised at the afc championship game in january. to suggest that i destroyed a phone to avoid giving the nfl information that it requested is completely wrong. the nfl players union is defending brady as patriots owner bob kraft reacted to the ruling this morning. >> i want to apologize to the fans of the new england patriots and tom brady. i was wrong to put my faith in the league. given the facts, evidence and laws of science that underscore this entire situation, it is completely incomprehensible to me that the league continues to
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take steps to disparage one of its all-time great players and a man for whom i have the utmost respect. >> steve kornacki the host of "up" was at that press conference this morning and joins me now from foxborough massachusetts. steve, can you break this down for us? >> yeah. well, the question right now, there's a couple things in motion right now and a couple open questions really dealing with that bob kraft press conference you just played a clip of there. that was sort of a surprise appearance by the owner of the patriots. there's two different ways to read what he did today. obviously very defiant, very blistering statements about the league, about this investigation, about the ruling that has left tom brady suspended for four games. the question here is is bob kraft looking to pursue this war somehow in a court of law? a few months ago he said he wasn't going to sue the nfl, he said he would accept the nfl's penalties against the new england patriots franchise. those penalties were a million dollar fine and the loss of a draft pick. he said he would accept those
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penalties at the time and took legal action off the table. the question now is is he now looking to pursue legal action some kind of defamation lawsuit. he's accusing the league of being on a vendetta against tom brady. wouldn't address any of that at the press conference today. the other possibility when you look at what kraft was saying today, the tone he took he's really just an on or aboutwner who's trying to fire up his team fire up his fan base, show his confidence in his quarterback and try to get the fans excited for the year knowing they're probably going to have to go forward a few games without tom brady. meanwhile as that drama plays out, there's a race between the two sides, between tom brady's side and between the nfl to get to a federal judge. the nfl issuing -- coming down and saying this four-game suspension is upheld. they're now asking a federal judge to step in and say, yes, the nfl was correct to do that. meanwhile, tom brady and the players union, they're looking for a federal judge who might say something different. so who can get to the right federal judge first, that's
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going on as we speak. >> while the lawyers battle it out behind the scenes there's a statement from roger goodell, the commissioner, who was thought to be such a close friend of bob kraft that everyone had thought that there was going to be some sort of collusion there or at least cooperation. but now goodell is saying quote, rather than simply failing to cooperate, mr. brady made a deliberate effort to ensure that investigators would never have access to information that he had been asked to produce, and that is from roger goodell, the nfl commissioner. steve, the whole question really boils down to whether or not he destroyed a phone that had relevant e-mails or whether he was just changing to an iphone from his other phone and that it was complete coincidence. >> right. obviously when you look at it from sort of the court of public opinion's standpoint here the vast majority of people who look at this are going to be awfully suspicious of what tom brady is saying here. but you have the league saying that as they're investigating this, they hire ted wells to run
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this investigation. as that investigation is playing out, within 24 hours of tom brady's scheduled meeting with ted wells and the investigators, within that period tom brady, the league says instructs an assistant to destroy the phone, knowing that ted wells wanted to see the phone. now you have tom brady firing back in a facebook post today and saying he did not know that they wanted to see the phone. he didn't have any obligation to turn over the phone. and that all that had happened was a broken phone was replaced with a separate phone. oh, yes, by the way, tom brady is saying it's standard practice in tom brady world every four five six months to destroy the previous cell phone and start anew. now, there may be some way in a very legalistic sense to reconcile what brady is saying with what the league is saying but again you also have robert kraft in this press conference today saying that the league tried to put the most negative sks nefarious spin on this as possible but a lot of people would say, look tom brady, if you had nothing to hide turn over the cell phone. >> steve kornacki with "up with
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steve" on weekends. thank you very much. we have breaking news today from the justice department in philadelphia. a pennsylvania democratic congressman is facing federal charges for his role in an alleged racketeering conspiracy connected to hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal charitable and campaign funds. pete williams joins me now. pete this is a leading member of not only the congressional black caucus but the pennsylvania delegation, a leader in philadelphia whom i frankly know well from covering him. and so this is a pretty shocking indictment today. >> well, he's been under investigation for a couple of years now, so in a way, i suppose, this is not a surprise. other people involved in what the government says in this criminal enterprise have already pleaded guilty. the government has charged him and charged his congressional district director, a lobbyist and others with taking part in a scheme to sort of use money that's not supposed to be used for campaign purposes. specifically they say part of it
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involves his unsuccessful 2007 campaign for mayor. he ran up $1 million in debt. he borrowed money from a donor and to help repay that he used in part federal grant money and charitable contributions to an educational foundation that he had to try to help repay that loan. he tried to arrange for a federal grant to a political consultant to repay a debt to that person. they say -- the government says that he used money from his political campaign to repay his son's student loan debt. and they say he took an $18,000 bribe from a lobbyist to try to get that person an ambassadorship or some other federal job. now, you are luke russert has just encountered congressman fattah. he basically says he hasn't seen the indictment but he will resign or recuse himself from the leadership position on a senate -- or house appropriations subcommittee
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until this is resolved. >> pete thanks so much. let's go to the tape. luke russert with congressman fattah. >> all i want to say is that i've spent my time helping people. we've helped at least 25 million that we can count. i'm going to spend my time helping millions more. i'm going to let my attorney a small one-man shop in philadelphia, handle this matter. it's obviously going to be important to my constituents that this matter not be a distraction in terms of my work and i'm going to try to not have it be a distraction. >> do you plan on staying here on capitol hill? >> luke how are you doing? >> good to see you. >> this is not deflategate. this is a normal issue of which there are allegations after a very long running eight-year investigation. i did note that they said it started in 2013. i think from your own coverage you know that that's not true.
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if you look back in the records, there have been press reports on this and subpoenas flying since -- for at least eight years. so we now have actual allegations. we have a chance to respond, but i'll stand by my previous statement that i've never been involved in any wrongdoing any unlawful activity and any misappropriation of federal funds. and i think that there's a lot for us to digest once we see the indictment. i understand it's a rico charge. what's unusual is none of the people involved in it have never been involved in any type of wrongdoing before. so on first blush the one thing i can agree with the u.s. attorney on in philadelphia he said this at the end, but i think it may be one of the more important things. as these are allegations and that the people involved in it are innocent until proven otherwise. >> what did speaker boehner say? >> i have not spoken to speaker boehner, but i am going to recuse myself from my leadership
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position on appropriations until this matter is cleared up. >> i think the bottom line there, pete and we apologize, the ringing bells you hear are calling them to a vote i believe. the bottom line there is he says he did nothing wrong. he challenged the use of the rico statute in this case and he said he is going to step down from his appropriations leadership until the charges are adjudicated. >> reporter: right. and of course it's always tricky for the justice department when they prosecute a sitting member of congress. there are always questions of how the evidence was obtained because of the members of congress have protection from the constitution speech and debate clause. we go through this all the time. you may recall this big fight involving congressman jefferson and a search of his office but presumably the government says all of these are allegations involving his campaigns in philadelphia, so i'm sure that will be the government's claim here, that they didn't interfere with the law making process.
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>> pete williams thank you so much for the breaking news out of that eastern district of pennsylvania. and now today the president is going to be meeting with house members. he's just back from africa in the wee hours of the morning. he's bringing house members in this afternoon as the president tries to hold the magic number to stop congress from blocking the iran deal on. on capitol hill this time john mccain taking apart what john kerry negotiated. >> don't be looking 15 years down the road. right now they have this ability and we're stopping that. we're taking that away from them and providing a lifetime -- >> the senator's time has expired. >> how did that north korean deal work out for you? >> well south carolina congressman and assistant democratic leader jim clyburn joins me now. as always congressman, good to see you. thank you for being with us today. >> thanks for having me. >> well as you saw, john mccain certainly taking some delight in
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cutting off john kerry and with a comment about the north korea deal. obviously north korea cheated, we didn't know about it and that is the predicate but that was years earlier. that was during the george w. bush administration. kerry, of course now trying to sell this iran deal. first let me ask you about the news of your colleague chaka fattah. it's just come down. we just played his response to luke russert saying he's done nothing wrong and will prove his innocence but he's going to step back from his appropriations leadership. i assume as a member of the leadership that you would agree with that step? >> yes i do. thank you so much for having me. i'm very very concerned about this. i know that we have been aware now for almost two years that an investigation was under way there in philadelphia. i'm very hopeful that mr. fattah, who i have worked with
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very closely over the years on issues involving education, especially the education of our children and our college students. i hope things come out well for him. now, i understand that he is going to recuse himself from any work on the appropriations committee. he also chairs the congressional black caucus foundation and i'm assuming that he will step aside from any official role in that as well until all of this is cleared up. we are about to have our annual legislative conference the second or third week of september, and as he said we should not allow this to be a distraction from that conference as well. >> do you believe that he should resign his position in congress? is there any reason to do that? >> i don't think there's any reason to do that.
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there's no requirement that he would do that and i suspect that his constituents there in pennsylvania will let their feelings be known. i'm sure that he will respond to his constituents' wishes. but the caucus here the democratic caucus awards positions on committees and subcommittees and of course the congressional caucus foundation makes determinations as to who their chair should be. so i would hope that he would move forthrightly to make sure that neither one of these entities, the democratic caucus or the congressional black caucus foundation will suffer any undue harm or attention
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because of this possible distraction. >> and on iran the president is going to be meeting with house members. house members not just the republicans really beat up on secretary kerry yesterday. what is your mess rajage to the president on how to sell this deal? do you think there's any chance that congress would manage to get together the votes to override a veto? >> no i don't think so. i have been watching this very closely. i have been listening to my colleagues and their arguments. and quite frankly, i think that the votes are there, in both houses if need be. of course you don't need but one, to sustain a veto if the presidencies fit to veto any action taken by the congress. now, i would hope that as we
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have the discussions on this that we will keep the discussions focused on the nuclear threat that iran may have to that region of the country and to the world for that matter. for us to have all of these other extraneous discussions going on about iran whether or not they're bad actors we all believe they are bad actors. we all believe that if given the possibility they will cheat on any agreement. but we also know that if left unfettered they could very well find themselves within the next year or two with a nuclear weapon. this gives us 15 years to try negotiations, try diplomacy and hopefully for the people of iran to get a good taste of a new way
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of life and maybe it will have some significant with the leadership going forward. >> congressman james clyburn, thank you very much. thanks for being with us today. >> thank you so much for having me. and as the armed services committee continues to hammer the president's national security team about iran several presidential candidates will take their turns with the secretary of state. first, outrage online and across the world about the brutal slaying of a beloved lion in africa. more reaction coming up next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. push your enterprise and you can move the world. but to get from the old way to the new you'll need the right it infrastructure. from a partner who knows how to make your enterprise more agile, borderless and secure. hp helps business move on all the possibilities of today. and stay ready for everything that is still to come.
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and beloved beast known as the pride of zimbabwe. conservation officials have arrested the local guides who lured the lion out of its african game preserve where officials say 55-year-old walter palmer shot cecil first with a bow and arrow after stalking the lion for 40 hours. he finished him off with a gun, then skinned and beheaded the lion. the killing has sparked an outcry from many corners, including late-night comedian jimmy kimmel. >> i think it's important to have some good to come out of this disgusting reality. researchers put the collar on cecil in the first place and tracked the animals and study them. if you want to do something, if you want to make this into a positive, you can -- sorry. i'm -- okay i'm good. make a donation to support them. at the very least maybe we can show the world that not all americans are like this jack hole here, this dentist.
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this top dentist. >> other critics have started stuffed toy animals at palmer's home and his dental office in minneapolis, which abruptly closed tuesday. joining me now is boyd matson host of geographic explorer. people have been horrified by this. i cannot understand, what is the thrill, what is the joy and how do you do that? >> it's incomprehensible to us because it's not a sport to go track down a lion and hunt it. these are lions that are in a park. it's used to being around people. it would show no fear. if you went into a hunting concession area it might be more skittish. so there is no sport. and then it wasn't an instant killing. he had to track it for hours and hours to shoot it with a gun after shooting it with a bow and air ohrrow arrow. the bigger issue is lion populations and what's happening to them. >> and this involves the dna of the large male.
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when you kill one, you eventually kill off the species. >> well the numbers, national geographic did a survey back in 2012 to get the most accurate numbers we have of lions in the wild. we're down to about 32,000 of which only 26,000 are in a viable population. so if you're killing 1,000 a year for sport, it doesn't take long to wipe them out. adding to that the hunters want like cecil, the big black mane the gorgeous male. that's the key for genetics for mating. so there are fewer males to begin with. there are fewer of these dominant males. as soon as you kill the male in the pride, the next males that come in and take over they're going to kill all of the cubs because they want to mate with the females. as long as the females are nursing cubs they're not going to mate. so it's not just one lion that dies every time you kill a big male. >> is there anything that the local officials can do in this preserve to protect the cubs? >> no. that's just -- nature is going to play out at this point.
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that card has already been played and what's going to happen is what nature always does. national geographic has this big cat conservation program. we're trying to save the lions that are left in the few viable populations by helping the locals build better fences around their livestock so they don't want to do revenge killing. we compensate if they have lost an animal and they can prove it was by a lion and they don't kill the lions. so there's a lot of programs in place. then you see something like this that is just totally irresponsible and an unnecessary killing. that's why jimmy kimmel got emotional. it grabs your heart. >> we didn't even play the part of it that was more graphic, but go online and check that out. we have a statement from walter palmer, the dentist, which says in part i had no idea that the lion i took was a known, local favorite, was collared and part of a study until the end of the hunt. i relied on the expertise of my local professional guides to ensure a legal hunting. i deeply regret that my pursuit of an activity that i love and practice responsibly and legally
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resulted in the taking of this lion. although we should say there are plenty of pictures online of this dentist, walter palmer, with other animals. >> zimbabwe needs to stop all trophy hunting. you've got to give these populations of big animals a chance to rebound. there is no reason for anyone to be hunting lions. this is not sport hunting, this is not hunting for food this is ego and whatever machismo from going after a carnivore that's almost, almost a pet. >> and nothing like blaming the local guides the tour guides. >> i didn't know. i didn't know. i suspect what he's most sorry about, the reaction it's going to take on his business. he may not be able to afford another $50,000 lion. >> one can hope. thunderstorm watch, boyd matson. up next donald trump, he says he's okay with mike
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meadows did this. this is someone who did not vote for john boehner, one of the republicans who did not vote for john boehner as speaker, he voted for daniel webster from florida. john boehner got the most people to vote against him from his party since the civil war. we know there's 25ish republicans who have not been happy with john boehner and will not be happy with john boehner. are there a lot more than that if it comes to a vote? i'm skeptical they would put their names down on something they would not expect to succeed. >> what about the rebuke to ted cruz? mitch mcconnell showed his savvy and his support. you've got orrin hatch, you've got lemar alexander, they're all lining up to say to ted cruz not so fast young man. he only got three votes on this procedural motion among the senate republicans. >> ted cruz not popular even among people in his own party. but it does create a kind of calculation for democrats. if this came up for a vote in
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the house, for instance what should house democrats do? we saw nancy pelosi's office coming out today with a statement saying basically that mark meadows had a point that the house wasn't very functional. are house democrats better off creating some turmoil on the other side or would they be undoing any possibility to getting some things through that they want to get through that john boehner might be in a position to help with. >> and donald trump, chris, i think this was with greta on fox talking about huckabee's comments. let's watch. >> i mean i'm okay with it. i think he's a very good guy, huckabee, by the way. i'm really okay with it. i see some people are saying oh, the tone and the -- i saw jeb bush who i think is also a nice person but it's not about tone. i mean they're chopping off christians' heads in syria and lots of other places and we're worried about tone. i think what mike has done is he's hit a nerve and he'd made people think a little bit. >> chris and susan, very briefly
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on donald trump? >> well look donald trump is not really in a position to condemn other people for saying things that draw controversy. it doesn't mean he wouldn't do it, but i guess this is consistent with his approach to the media. >> you know, it's not just his tone, it's a reference to the holocaust, likening something to the holocaust. even the israeli ambassador said that that was not appropriate language. even though the israeli ambassador is on the same side as mike huckabee when it comes to opposing the iran nuclear deal. >> but huckabee absolutely refusing on the "today" show with matt lauer, refusing to back down. he will not budge. i think that he's figured out that this works for him to try to get on that debate stage. >> it means we're talking about him. otherwise perhaps we wouldn't be. >> susan page chris cillizza thank you both. up next claire mccaskill directly from the hearing, only right here on msnbc.
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the president's national security cabinet members facing some tough questions from the senate armed services committee today on iran. >> do you believe if we walk away from this deal iran has a nuclear weapon by christmas? >> well i can't really answer that question. what i can say is -- >> do your best. i think it's important for us to know how close they are. >> they are a nuclear threshold state today. they could certainly generate nuclear materials within months. >> joining me now from the hearing just outside the hearing, senator claire mccaskill. senator, great to see you. thanks for being with us. >> thank you andrea. >> i mean these are tough issues. i know the senate tries to be a little less i don't know dramatic in its questioning than the house because these same cabinet members had a really tough time on the house side yesterday, i can tell you. but from what you're hearing, what do you see as the tone?
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are you going to support the deal? >> well we have 60 days to look at this deal that were insisted upon, by the way by the republicans who appear not willing to take the 60 days to take a hard look at it. i'm trying to really look at what the alternative is. i think people have a false sense of confidence that this is either this deal or the status quo. of course the status quo is going to go away because it's clear that this worldwide sanctions, the number of countries that have unified against iran is going to fray and tatter. so what i'm trying to find out now is what happens if we walk away. what will the reality look like. how soon could innerran get a bomb? how likely is war? how likely is it that we could use the might of the united states to continue to put financial pressure on our allies and other countries who may want to walk away from the sanction regime. >> how important is chuck
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schumer to how this is going to go? >> well he's one senator. i don't think his decision is going to weigh heavily on other senators. i think all of us take this responsibility extremely seriously. we don't trust iran. iran is not our friend. we do not want will not allow iran to get a nuclear weapon. so i think each senator is really trying to put blinders on to what their friends are doing or their colleagues and trying to do their homework. i worry that some of this has gotten politicized because of all the misinformation i hear being repeated. for example, i hear senators saying $150 billion will immediately go to iran. that's not true. the figure is closer to $60 billion, and by the way, the united states doesn't control that money. so there's a likelihood that money is going to go to them whether we do this deal or not. so that's the kind of thing that worries me that it gets caught
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up in the politics of washington and we're not looking at it clearly. >> briefly what about the argument that they should have done a better deal they shouldn't have agreed to let the iaea do the inspections with a side deal with iran? >> well i think that we need to be briefed on the iaea agreement with iran. this is what this independent u.n. agency does. it does inspections. it has a long history of data with iran. it knows a lot about what iran has told us and what they have lied to us about. and they are an independent entity from the united states. they have these agreements with every country where they do inspections. that doesn't mean we can't be briefed on it and we must be briefed on it. we must understand what these side agreements are before we make a decision on this. >> senator claire mccaskill from the armed services committee, thank you very much. thanks for being with us today. >> thank you. we have breaking news. the coast guard is how home of
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perry cohen and austin stephanos vanished six days ago on a boating trip. kerry sanders joins us from outside the cohen family home. is this prepartory? are they going to suspend the search? >> reporter: that could well be the case. there was a something put out that said the search was going to be suspended. a representative from the coast guard told me there was no suspension but it may be a matter of protocol at this point because the coast guard moments later showed up at the house to begin talking to the family members. we don't know what they're talking about. they have been getting regular updates, so it's not as if the coast guard has not been here before. but bottom line five days in the search at this point, the authorities say and the experts say the likelihood of surviving out at sea is very remote in
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part because they're not in their boat or clinging to their boat. they may have been able to get a cooler or maybe some life jackets, but even at five days without water in the brutal heat and really in the elements of the ocean, which include sharks the authorities say that really surviving at this point would be a miracle. a lot of people here are praying for that but by the same token the coast guard has made this visit here and we're waiting to hear if they come out and give us an update on where things stand and what they told the family members. >> kerry sanders, such a tragedy. we just pray as well but it obviously is a bleak out look for this sad family. thank you very much, kerry. we'll be back with more on what is happening on the iran deal. we'll talk to the british ambassador to the united states coming up next.
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read either of these two side deals between the iaea and iran? >> no i haven't read it. >> have you read any previous drafts? >> no i haven't. >> why can't we confirm or deny the content of these agreements in public? why is this classified? it's not a sensitive u.s. government document. the ayatollahs know what they agreed to. >> because we respect the process of the iaea and we don't have their authorization to reveal what is a confidential agreement between them and another country. >> president obama's team now three hours into the senate hearing about the iran nuclear deal. the second day this week that secretary kerry has had to make the case that rejecting the deal would be dangerous not only for the united states but for its allies. i'm joined by probably the closest ally the british ambassador to the u.s. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me, andrea. >> what would be the ramifications of the united states unilaterally rejecting the deal? >> i think the ramifications would be very serious. we've done this thing together
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the p5+1 with iran on the other side of the table. we've reached an agreement in good faith that we all think is as good as we can get in the circumstances. if the united states walks away from it or the united states congress kills it then we are in uncharted territory. we don't have a plan b. and i don't know exactly what would happen afterwards but there must be a risk the iranians would say if the united states is not going to play ball, why should we. they might choose to walk away from it as well. we're certain that a number of the countries that are voluntarily cooperating with sanctions against iran will say it's over. but the single most important reason is that there's a real risk that all those careful restrictions and limits that we put on the iranian nuclear program would just evaporate. we would have no agreement which means iran could be a couple of months away from making nuclear weapons. >> france is today announcing
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diplomatic relations with tehran. china and russia were roped into this as reluctant members of the permanent members of the security council. so where do you see them playing a role as well? >> i think it's important to remember that china and russia play pretty important roles in getting this thing over the line as you know as well as anybody, you were there. the chinese are involved and russians have done work everybody has done their bit to get this done. so i think there's a clear commitment to making it work. but if it begins to fall apart if the united states doesn't want to do it and doesn't want to do any lifting of the relevant sanctions, united nations and so on then i think we will find it very hard to maintain the international unity that has caught us a deal and got the iranians to negotiate finally on this thing.
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so where they would go in light of the united states ditching the agreement i can't be sure but at the global level we would have to be prepared for a lot of these sanctions to begin to erode very quickly. >> i was interviewing james clapper and he said that this deal overall if they don't cheat is better than the alternative, but he said he could not be 100% sure that we would know if they were cheating. we didn't know in the past. what the senators are asking what the house members are asking is why should we trust the iaea to verify all of this when we haven't even seen the details of their side agreement with iran. >> the early complaint was why should we trust the iranians and we aren't trusting the iranians. the iaea will be the world's policeman for this thing. it is a highly respected organization. it has done very stringent inspections in iran which have worked very well daily inspections of declared sites
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and in a number of other countries. clearly somebody has to police this thing. the iaea have signed on to it. they have reached their own direct agreements with the iranians to check things like pmd, which is very important for us in terms of establishing a baseline of what the iranians have done in the past and to ensure they are not going to do things in the future that are not acceptable. if you've got an agreement like that, you've got to put in place a number of arrangements that will work. the alternative is you have no agreement at all in which case all constraints are off and we will be a very short distance from iran having potential breakout. sanctions brought iran to the table. sanctions have not stopped the iranian nuclear program. that is why it was right to reach this agreement. >> thank you very much ambassador. good to see you. >> thank you. coming up one brave little boy and an historic transplant. >> when i get those hands, i will be proud of what hands i get. and eat like i skipped lunch.
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a very brave little boy has just made medical history. 8-year-old zion harvey has faced a lifetime's worth of challenges, but his unbreakable spirit made him the ideal choice for an operation. pediatric double hand transplant. rehema ellis has his incredible story. >> reporter: for most of his young line zion harvey a spirited 8-year-old has had the same dream. >> when i get those hands, i will be proud of what hands i get. >> reporter: just weeks ago, his dream came true and zion made history as the first child ever to receive a double hand transplant. >> we've been on a mini roller coaster, you know, but zion has always been a trooper. he's always prevailed. >> great job. >> reporter: what this child has endured could defeat most grownups. as 2 years old, zion developed a
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life-threatening infection. both his hands and feet were amputated. then he got a kidney transplant from his mom. for the ground-breaking procedure, a team of 40 including ten hand surgeons operated on zion for nearly 11 hours at children's hospital of philadelphia. >> you can see the hand right here is starting to pink up. >> reporter: new hands that will grow with zion. >> we're just getting started and realizing medicine's potential to treat patients like zion. we've made a big step forward with this operation. >> when i saw zion's hands for the first time after the operation, i just felt like he was being reborn again. >> okay relax and open wide. >> reporter: therapy is exhausting but zion is determined. >> what will be your favorite thing to do once all the bandages come off? >> pick up my little sister from day care and wait for her to run into my hands and i pick her up
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adam reese is also joining us with the latest on the search. kerry, let me start with you and what you understand about the coast guard visit. >> reporter: well this has been a very difficult five days as you can imagine, for the family members. making it even harder as each hour goes by there is the sense that the possibility of these boys surviving is diminishing. now we're five days into the search so it's really unclear whether they could be alive if they were found. there was a report that came out that the associated press reported that the search had been called off. then a short time later, a captain who's heading up the search efforts for the u.s. coast guard came to the families' home here and everybody began to wonder is this providing the last piece of information to the family that the coast guard was calling off the search. indeed, he says that is not the case. you're going to hear him in just one moment. it was very quick. but also important to note is that walking out with him were al
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