issue. people that were a little suspect of brady before, when they came out with the upheld suspension yesterday and they said specifically that brady destroyed his cell phone to circumvent some of the investigation. so that will probably hurt brady from people who already thought he was guilty. the people who are supporting brady are looking at it in a different way. brady explained why he had destroyed his cell phone before in the past, and it's on record. so there's a lot that will be going back and forth to see what happens. >> donte stallworth and terence moore, great to have you with us. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. tonight on "politicsnation," a campus police officer charged with murder for shooting an unarmed man during a traffic stop. we're live in cincinnati. also, how do you debate

donald trump? attack him? ignore him? gop candidates are prepping for the worst. and the story that's touched millions of people. a young boy given a new set of hands. we'll look at his road ahead. welcome to "politicsnation," we start tonight with breaking news. a university of cincinnati police officer is in custody tonight after a grand jury indicted him for the murder of an unarmed man. today prosecutors released video from the officer's body camera. it shows officer ray tenserling pulling over samuel dub os for a missing license plate last week.

in the police report the officer said dubose' car dragged him, almost ran him over, and that he was forced to fire his gun. the shot struck dubose in the head, killing him. we're going to play the body camera video for you. we should warn you. it is disturbing. >> i haven't lied to you. you can have my name. >> is that on you then? >> i don't think i have it on me. >> be straight up be me, are you suspended? >> no, i'm not suspended. >> why then don't you have it? >> i just don't. go ahead and take your seat belt off. >> i didn't do nothing. >> just take your seat belt off. >> the prosecutor says it's clear that the officer was not dragged. after the shooting, you can see the officer running after the

car. the prosecutor says the car sped forward after dubose was shot. he calls the video shocking. >> i've been doing this for over 30 years. this is the most asinine act i've ever seen a police officer make. he wasn't dealing with someone who was wanted for murder. okay? he was dealing with somebody who didn't have a front license plate. i mean, this is, in the vernacular, a pretty chicken crap stop. all right? >> the family of samuel dubose is thankful for the video, ask they never doubted what happened. >> seeing that video let me know that my son did absolutely nothing. not nothing. nothing to even provoke this man. >> when you know somebody, you

know somebody. so, we knew the video was going to -- it wasn't like, oh, maybe, could have, should have. we knew the video was going to vindicate our brother. >> we've seen protesters demanding to know what happened. and today, we're starting to get some answers. joining me now from cincinnati, city councilman wendell young, and ohio state senator cecil thomas, who spent almost three decades in law enforcement. they have both been close to this case. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you, reverend. >> senator thomas, as a former police officer, what's your reaction to what we saw on that body cam video? >> well, it was what we had been hearing. it was shocking. it was something that we didn't want to see, but that's exactly what it did.

and it really speaks to the frustration that african american communities around this country have had over the years since policing has been in existence. thank god for the video now these things are being highlighted. and mind you, it's not all police officers. it's a few. and when citizens complain, often times without the video, it would have been, well, it's your word against the officer's and often times, the officer's word is accepted. >> you see this councilman, you see the report this university policeman submitted, that the car dragged him, he had no choice. then you see the video, and none of that happened. and the prosecutor's saying it's the most asa nine thing he's seen. one shot to a man's head. you attended the funeral for samuel dub os, what is the mood in the community? >> well, reverend al, first

thing i want to say to you, thanks for having us on. secondly, the mood in the community, i think, is calm. i think many of us are surprised that the officer was indicted for murder. a lot of us didn't expect there would be an indictment at all. and many of us who thought there would be one, thought it would be for manslaughter and not murder. so we're very surprised. and i don't want to use the word happy, for the video, because without that, i don't see any charges at all. but that video was indisputable evidence that a crime was committed by the police officer, not by mr. dub os. now we need to wait and see justice served. >> you know, senator, the community's reaction to the news of the indictment for murder, the councilman says, they were surprised. and it goes back to your statement and i've been involved in these things for a long time. it's sad when people are surprised that something as this blatant as this video appears to

be does result in charges. we don't know what would happen at trial, but you would almost think that it's sad that we would be surprised that something that happened that is clear as this, would even end up in charges. >> absolutely, reverend. the transparency that we worked extremely hard for here in the city of cincinnati and let me preface that with the fact that this is not a cincinnati police officer involved in this. this is a university of cincinnati police officer. and the university is in the city of cincinnati. but transparency. after the civil unrest we had in 2001, the reason we had that unrest was simply because it was a refusal to be transparent in that investigation of the officer that shot and killed the young man. and we had pretty much the same kind of situation here. however, we all feared the worst

in that video. and we were demanding for ten days that that video be released, so the citizens and the family can know what happened. so we're saying, where do we go from here? comeras have to be the order of the day for law enforcement. it speaks to how much training is still necessary out there. it also speaks to the mere fact that there are some officers out there that will do whatever they can to avoid being prosecuted. >> councilman, the prosecutor thinks that cincinnati police should patrol the campus, not the university police. a reporter asked the school's president if he'd consider it. listen to this. >> i have not. the policing that's required of university and college police are very different from the policing in a metropolitan area. the important thing is to ensure the safety of the entire community and also, frankly, of the university community.

>> now, i remember 2001. in fact, i came out and worked with reverend damon lynch and others then, but since then, there have been reported better policing methods in the city of cincinnati, though clearly a lot more has to be done. so is this an idea people in the community support, councilman, having the cincinnati police police the campus rather than the university police? >> well, reverend, first of all, let me say, i have my differences with our prosecutor, but on this one, we also disagree. i want to commend him for the work he has done thus far on this case. but i think that the president of uc is correct when he said that policing on the campus is different from policing in an urban environment. i was also a police officer in cincinnati and before that a police officer in the united states air force. policing in the air force, i found to be different than policing in cincinnati. it's just not really the same

thing. the purposes are so very different. what i also like, however, is that there's a plan for even more cooperation between the city of cincinnati and the university of cincinnati police department. i think that really is the way to go. i think that a closer relationship between the two can result in a better university of cincinnati police department. the cincinnati police department is far better than it was in 2001. however, i don't want to paint the picture that we have utopia here. but we do have a system that many cincinnatians are able to embrace. we have a police chief here who is all over the place all the time. highly visible in the community. it does an awful lot, i think, to help instill that police officers in cincinnati are here to serve. again, we have issues, but at the end of the day, i think cincinnati has learned some lessons that uc can benefit from. so i want to see that occur. but at this point, i'm not sure

that cincinnati taking over the university policing is really the way to go. i think it bears discussion, but i think at the end of the day, the university of cincinnati will maintain its police department and just work a lot closer with us. >> we'll certainly be watching this over the next few days as the university policeman is arraigned and we head for trial. we'll also be watching the cincinnati police who do not have body cameras in the city of cincinnati policing. councilman -- >> we don't have them now, reverend al, but there's certainly going to be a push to get them. >> i thought i'd bring it up, to see if i can get that push out there, so our audience would know it. >> thank you both for your time tonight. now, let's bring in former federal prosecutor paul butler and legal analyst arriva martin. thank you both for being here. >> thanks, rev. >> great to be here. >> this video is shocking. i mean to say the least. i want to start by getting both of your reactions.

arriva? >> you know, i was so disturbed by it, rev, but even before the gunshot, something really important happened in this video. this officer assumed that mr. dub os had a suspended driver's license. >> right. >> he pretty much concluded that without any facts to justify that. so when we talk about police officer training, we have to also deal with the issue of implicit bias. this officer made assumptions about mr. dub os, and we have to assume but for the reason that he was african american. he was an african american male driving, he gave his name, he did nothing other than drive without a front license plate and this officer made an erroneous assumption without facts that led to this horrific shooting. >> and he said, i live around the corner, that's where my license is. he said, i'm right around the corner. >> paul, your reaction? i mean, here we have the case of a change in lanes without a

signal in texas. now over a license plate in cincinnati, resulting in a videotape of a university of cincinnati police officer shooting a guy and killing him. i mean, you look at this video, what's your reaction in this climate? >> first of all, i don't understand why a campus cop is making an off-campus traffic stop. you know, if you're not trained in how to do a traffic stop, that's asking for trouble. we look at sandra in texas, if we look at walter scott in north charleston, those tragedies were the result of traffic stops. and this cop has even less cop than a regular cop. so it's just a recipe for disaster. it's almost like he thought because he had a gun and a badge, he had a license to hunt down african american people. and that's just wrong. they do need better training.

whether it comes from the cincinnati police department or some other standard. they really need to get out of the business of doing traffic stops. >> but let me go beyond training. because arriva, i want to read part of the account of the shooting in the police report. quote, officer tenserling repeated that he was being dragged by the vehicle and had to fire his weapon. officer kidd told me that he witnessed the honda tensing. you don't need training to tell the truth. the prosecutor said they're looking at the second officer's claims. what options do they have on both officers, because these are, on its face, appear to be filing false police reports. if you look at the video. >> filing false police reports, and they thought, rev, that their fabricated stories would never be revealed. thank god that those body cameras are on the university of

cincinnati police officers and that that body camera was on when mr. dub os was shot. that second officer is just as guilty as that first officer. he was prepared to back that fabricated story. so i'd like to see, and i'd want to send a strong message and i hope this district attorney does, he's been very firm, very aggressive, to all those officers out there that are willing to back false statements by other officers. that day is over. that will no longer be tolerated and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, charged with felonies and hopefully serve jail time just like the officer that pulled the trigger in this case. >> all right, thank you both for your time tonight. >> great to be here, rev. coming up, republicans brace for an opponent like no other. how do they debate donald trump? plus, medical miracle. we'll talk to an expert about what's next for that 8-year-old boy who got a double hand transplant.

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over. check out a sample of fox. >> obama would get creamed if he ran again. >> against you? >> oh, i would love to run against him. i would love to run against him. >> i believe history will prove this deal with iran is worst than munich 1938. i pray that i'm wrong. am i wrong? >> you're not wrong. you're right. >> the reality is, this president is taking us on the path to socialism. >> you look at the policies, the way they represent us, it's a disgrace. >> and this is just the tip of the iceberg. a new report says establishment republicans now think that right-wing media has become a big problem for the party. pushing republicans to extremists positions and impeding republicans' ability to govern and to win presidential elections. the conservative media's pushing the gop further and further right. so on the big issues, they're

getting more and more wrong. joining me now, jonathan capehart. thank you for being here. >> thanks a lot, rev. >> jonathan, the candidates who are more extreme get more air time. but where does it stop? >> you know, i don't know where it stops. you know, the report that you talked about from the kennedy school, actually, it's sort of a confirmation of what we've long known and suspected, and that is that the conservative media has an enormous influence on the republican party and on members of congress and other people who aspire to be in congress. you look at what happened during the tea party rebellion in 2010. a lot of those folks were whipped up by what they heard and the misinformation that they heard on fox news, on rush limbaugh's radio show, from sean hannity and others. and the interesting thing here to keep in mind is also that the

folks watching those shows are really extremely vocal. they let their representatives know and their leaders know they're unhappy about what they're hearing. how many times have we seen stories about members of congress living in fear of what rush limbaugh is going to say about them on any given day? >> talking about rush limbaugh, he weighed in today, attacking the republican establishment, and he's begun weighing in on donald trump's chances. let me play this to you. >> folks, at the republican establishment level, you know as well as i do, if they can throw away the christian right and the conservative tea party, they would do it. trump is tapping into the voters the republican party can win with. and he is demonstrating to them how they can win. >> the seal of approval by rush limbaugh. how much is that really worth,

jonathan? >> well, it's worth a lot in a primary, if you're a sitting member of congress, and you're worried about a primary challenge, having rush limbaugh on your side is a good thing. but i would have to challenge rush's assertion that donald trump is -- yes, he's tapping into a constituency that feels abandoned and ignored by the establishment republican party. but there's thouno way a republ running on a national ticket can win with just that sliver of the angry piece of the republican party electorate. that's just foolish to say that. >> now, let me tell you something i've found interesting. look at the number of appearances the gop candidates have made on fox since they launched their campaign. senator rand paul has the most. followed very closely by mike huckabee and donald trump.

now watch this. jeb bush is in last place of all 16 candidates with just three appearances. trump and huckabee near the top. what does this say, jonathan? >> well, if i'm remembering correctly, all three of those folks, certainly huckabee and trump, will be in that debate next week in ohio. and jeb bush will also be on that debate stage, and even though he has fewer fox appearances, his poll numbers are high, guaranteeing that he'll be on that stage. but that just means that huckabee and trump and rand paul, because they get more air time on fox, have the ability to make life a living hell for jeb bush, as he tries to win his way, especially through the early primaries. iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. there's a long way to go for governor bush to get to florida with fox news and other conservative media beating him up and giving air time and

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presence on that stage is going to make for one bumpy night for the rest of the gop candidates. newt gingrich warned that, quote, it's like dealing with night row glycerin. and a top adviser to ohio governor john kasich tweeted, imagine a nascar driver mentally preparing for a race, knowing one of the drivers will be drunk. that's what prepping for this debate is like. one thing's for sure. when donald trump gets on that stage, he won't be pulling any punches. >> i've been nice to scott walker. then today i read this horrible statement from his fund-raiser about trump. i said, oh, finally, i can attack. [ laughter ] >> i think bush is an unhappy person. i don't think he has any energy. and i don't see how he can win. >> senator, what a stiff.

lindsey graham. [ laughter ] >> rick perry should have to have an iq test before getting on the debate stage. >> joining me now is david birdsal, co-author of presidential debates, the challenge of creating an informed electorate and msnbc contributor jimmy williams. thank you both for being here. >> david, how do candidates deal with a guy who other republicans are describing as night row glycerin and a drunk driver. >> this is a real puzzle. if you're a bush, you probably want to stay as far away from him as possible, if he'll let you opinion clearly, and you showed some clips a moment ago that made this very clear, he will have no compunction about attacking and attacking and needle people in normal ways that a normal politician would never consider on a debate stage. >> and jimmy, does the strategy for debating trump depend on who

you are and where you stand in the polls? >> i don't think so, no. david's right, it's not that trump isn't going to sit passively by, he's going to attack all of them and stand out. that's his m.o. we've seen it now, well, for years. i don't think it matters necessarily where you are, if you are carly, i mean, she won't even be on the stage, but it doesn't matter who's on the stage with him. he's going to go after them all, saying they're part of the establishment, bought and paid for by lobbyists? >> all of them? >> that's exactly right. then he's going to attack hillary and the president. that's his m.o. we've heard this. we know what he's going to do. the sad part is, he's like that kid with teret's or something, he just shouts it out and everyone just sort of shakes and trembles when he does it. if i were on the stage with trump, i would just ignore him. i would literally rise above and

ignore him. >> but could ignoring him backfire, because then he might become more animated? i remember, i showed some zingers i did when i ran. but i knew your zingers makes you not look too distasteful to the public in terms of that. you can laugh at yourself. but then you covered policies and i wanted to push social justice issues and the iraq war, all of that was the issues in 2004, health care, some real issues. and i had pressure on me that if i didn't come prepared and raise the issues after the zinger, i would embarrass my colleagues in the movement. i don't feel donald trump has that kind of pressure, because he's not representing causes or issues, or comes out of a broader movement. he represents himself, and he represents his brand. there's no pressure on him. when you look at last week, donald trump questioned the fact

surrounding the number of undocumented immigrants in the country. watch this. >> how do we handle the 11 million already here? >> i don't think that's an accurate number anymore. i'm now hearing it's 30 million. could even be 34 million, which is a much bigger problem. >> who you are hearing it from? >> i'm hearing it from other people and seen it written in various newspapers. the truth is, the government has no idea how many illegals are here. they have no idea. >> how do you debate someone when they just make up their own facts, david? >> well, it becomes hard. i think one of the only angles that i can imagine and in general, i sympathize with jimmy's point that you want to stay away as much as possible, but he's gotten the paths on pretty much every policy position. he wants to build a face, he hates immigration, we know he thinks he can expand the economy and give it to the chinese. but he's never said anything about how he wants to do that.

and one thing that his fellow debaters can do is to push him a little bit on what those things look like. then the facts will have to be out there, they'll be open for the fact-checkers. that won't matter for his base. they won't care about that. they'll be perfectly happy to get trump facts rather than facts that come from some discredited government source. but it will make a difference in his demeanor and might have some chance of keeping him on the defensive. >> jimmy, i would debate him similar to what david's talking about. i would come at him straight out. i would not ignore him. i would confront him and say, mr. trump, you talk about jobs, my jobs programs would be infrastructure. this costs this. and when you talk about immigration, here's my point, a, b, c. now what is your point, one, two, three? and i would rattle him. i would force him to either have to admit that he has no program, or just be reduced to name-calling and people would understand he really can't understand policy questions.

>> right. >> just confront him. >> you can do that to a certain degree, absolutely. but the other thing is, we're not having a discussion about the moderators of this debate, or basicallythree-tier debate thing that fox has going. fox has been trump's biggest proponent and trump has been fox's biggest proponent. do we think the moderators will press trump on the specifics? >> which is why the candidates have to do it. i would say, thank you for the question, but mr. trump, let me go right to you. what are the moderates going to do? you have the right to put aside the process and they're going through and say, let's go specifics. people are hurting in this country. people are unemployed. people need answers. here are my answers. what are your specific answers? >> and there's another thing that makes it very important for

republican candidates who want to retain their credibility into a general election. another big reason to do that, that is to try to disassociate trump from the big stamp on the republican party. the biggest risk for the gop is that trump becomes synonymous with the republicans. many polls are already showing that many population groups are believing that and some think he's already the nominee. obviously that's wrong and we'll have the better part of 12 months to figure that out. but that's very dangerous for a party that needs to broaden its base and this is not the way to do it. so they have to think about making those distinctions. >> does trump need to come off more presidential, jimmy? >> that's impossible. >> does he have to try? >> no. because he's donald trump. he's never tried, he's never going to try, he never will try. you can't do something that you are physically incapable of doing. there's nothing about donald trump that's presidential. everything about him is trumpian. that's why i say he's like the

kid in the classroom with terets. you never know what's going to -- teddy roosevelt was not like this. i can't think of any president ever, period, in the history of this country that was as bombastic and as off the cuff as this guy. he's not presidential at all. >> i think that then i would use that. i would say, can you imagine this man as the leader of the free world? would you want him to get the 2:00 wake-up call the way he's behaving on that stage? i would rope-a-dope him. i'd lean him and let him punch himself out. david bird cell and jimmy williams, thank you for your time tonight. >> have a great day, thank you. coming up, an 8-year-old boy becomes the first child ever to get a double hand transplant. how does this breakthrough, how will it help thousands of other patients?

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>> now to a remarkable story and how major innovations in medicine are completely transforming lives. 8-year-old zion harvey was missing something most people take for granted. hands. but that changed this month when he became the first child in the world to receive a double hand transplant. nbc news' rehema ellis has more. >> reporter: what this child has endured could defeat most grown-ups. at 2 years old, he developed a

life-threatening infection. both his hands and feet were amputated. then he got a kidney transplant from his mom. >> nice deep breaths. >> reporter: for the ground-breaking procedure, a team of 40, including ten hand surgeons, operated on zion, for nearly 11 hours at children's hospital of philadelphia. >> you can see the hand right here, starting to pink up. >> new hands that will grow with zion. >> we're just getting started and realizing medicine's potential to treat patients like zion. we've made a big step forward with this operation. >> when i saw zion's hands for the first time after the operation, i just felt like he was being reborn again. >> okay, relax and open wide. >> therapy is exhausting, but zion's determined. >> after the surgery, zion showed off his new hands for the first time and he expressed his gratitude to his doctors and his

family. >> may i have some of my family stand up for a minute, please? may i say to you guys, thank you for helping me through this bumpy road. >> joining me now is nbc news medical contributor natalie azar. dr. azar, zion is the first child to ever have this surgery. this is ground-breaking, isn't it? >> it is definitely ground-breaking. there's only been a number of these performed throughout the world. i think somewhere close to 25. the second one at penn a couple years ago, they did it on an adult, but this is what we believe, the youngest person who ever have undergone this procedure successfully at all. >> you know, nbc's rehema ellis,

he actually asked him what his first thing will be when his bandages come off. listen to his response. >> my favorite thing to do, go home, pick up my little sister from daycare and wait for her to run in to my hands and i pick her up and spin her around. >> and now you hold her hand and what's zoe going to be able to do with you? >> grip on to it. >> she's going to be able to grip on to what? >> my hand. >> it's remarkable to think that this young boy will be able to hold his sister's hand. >> i know. >> how long will that take? >> well, he can already hold the hand, of course. but what the doctors are projecting is that it will probably be a number of months, maybe seven, eight months before he'll really start to get the

feeling back in his hands and use them. he is undergoing pretty extensive physical therapy right now. obviously there's good vascular supply, there's blood flow to the hands that is necessary -- >> what struck me was the head surgeon said that his hands will grow with him. watch this. >> yeah. >> the finger bones, the wrist bones, the forearm bones have what we call growth plates. and these growth plates, based on our experience in traumatic replantation, once we re-attach the parts, the growth plates stay open and allow the ampitated part to grow. so we have every reason to believe that because his hands are alive and his growth plates are intact from the donor, he will grow like a normal child. >> so as he grows, his hands will actually grow with him? >> exactly. we all reach a certain point in time, boys and girls reach at different ages in adolescence where their growth plates stop

growing and that's when we stop growing. but they have every reason to believe that the donor tissue was viable and took, so to speak and that his hands will grow with him. >> but it's a long road, it's a tough thing he's going through. >> they basically say the nerves regenerate at two millimeters a day. so it will take some time for him to get all the feeling back, and for him to be able to execute function, to be able to use the hands. >> and "the new york times" is reporting, he has immune suppressing drugs he'll have to take to ensure the body -- >> doesn't reject it. which he's already on, because he's been on them since his kidney transplant. he's going to need to be monitored for the rest of his life, but he certainly has a very different outlook than had he not had this procedure. >> such a strong character. we've reached out to him, we hope to have him on the show twh he's able to do it.

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finally tonight, the high stakes in the 2016 election. today house minority leader nancy pelosi and fellow democrats sounded the alarm, warning of new republican attempts to dismantle core social programs. we've seen those attacks from republican candidates, like jeb bush, who talked about phasing out medicare. it would reverse a half century of progress. tomorrow marks 50 years since president lyndon johnson signed medicare and medicaid into law. landmark programs that have helped millions of americans. >> we must not allow the promise of medicare and medicaid to be undermined, or be betrayed.

we must strengthen, not cut or voucher or block these essential pillars of america's health and economic security. >> we're also seeing new attacks on more recent landmark programs, like the affordable care act. in the senate, mitch mcconnell is making a new push to repeal obamacare, using a strategy that would require just 51 votes. conservative groups are hoping a republican president would sign that repeal into law in 2017. and we're coming up on the 50th anniversary of the voting rights act next week. a triumph of the civil rights era, gutted by conservatives on the supreme court. president obama's administration has been committed to restoring the voting rights act. will the next president share that commitment? so as we see the debates start and the beauty contest parts of the next election form, let's

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