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recovered wreckage. anti-abortionist activities release a new video and donald trump is claiming he is the great uniter. ♪ ♪ >> one week from today ten gop contenders will gather for the debate. trump is golfing in scotland. >> you dpoept win the presidency? >> i do. i do expect. >> trump is pounding the republican field. >> unstoppable momentum on the campaign trail left many in the political establishment scratching their heads. >> the middle finger to the
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republican base of the republican establishment. >> the bottom line is donald trump is not going away. >> one week to the first 2016 presidential debate. where else would the republican frontrunner be but on a golf course in scotland. that is where today finds donald trump who is taking a break from the campaign trail to hit the women's british open golf tournament held at his turnberry resort. the trip abroad seems to be broadening trump's presidency. >> i think i would be very diplomatic. i think i would be a great uniter. i think i would have great diplomatic skills. i think i would get along with people very well. the world would unite if i were the leader of the united states. >> trumps trumpeting of his own
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floem diplomacy. >> trump, seven points up on his closest rival. asked about trump's dominance, rand paul blamed the media for making voters lose their minds. >> television works. if you would give other candidates time from 8:00 in the morning until 8:00 at night all day long every day for three weeks, i am guessing other candidates might rise as well. i think it is a temporary loss of sanity. but we will come back to the senses and look for somebody serious to lead the country at some point. >> the new poll affirms trump's top dog status going into next week's debate. a debate that am include governor john kasich.
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so katie, let me first get your assessment of trump who seemed to have a softer message today, at least from what we are hearing in the bits and sounds coming across the atlantic. >> i think he has been less antagonistic. i think in his words more of a uniter saying he can be a great diplomat and that he will make the world stop hating america. he said the world hates america right now because we are so politically correct. he says this is an example of barack obama with putin in russia. putin hates obama and obama hates putin, but he would get along with him. we are pushing russia into china's arms and that is a great danger. he said he will be the one that
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will protect our interests from foreign aggression. how he would do any of this is up in the air. we asked him for details for any of his plans for the walls, immigration, foreign policy. what he is going out and doing is promoting himself. going out to say how wonderful and great he is and how much he can accomplish. certainly a very accomplished businessman. but it is too early to tell to find out how good of a diplomat or politician he will be. >> running around scotland in a hat that says make america great again. minutes ago, donald trump tweeted i look forward to the debate on thursday night and it is certainly my intention to be very nice and highly respectful of the other candidates. how?
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how will this happen? are you optimistic? >> i will be in cleveland for the debate. i have never looked forward to a trip to cleveland so much in my life. this is going to be an amazing political spectacle. nobody knows what will happen except that donald trump will be the center of attention. >> the center of the debate it sounds like the person with the most support in the polls will stand at the center of that debate stage. >> yeah. who would that be but donald trump. he is well ahead of everybody else in all of the polls right now. you know as i frankly predicted the mccain comments did not sink his candidacy. i am reminded of something that
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general david petreaus said. he said tell me how this ends. so alex tell me how this ends. tell me how this ends. >> magic 8 ball says unclear. come back another day. jeremy by way of explaining trump's success, supporters were interviewed in new hampshire and it was illuminate to say the least. >> he does not care what people think. >> he is honest. >> i like his roughness. >> he said he will put a wall down in the southern border. >> right. >> when you talk about common sense, that is the common sense thing to do. >> the american people it would be a presidency of hope. >> it would be an american president
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presidency of hope. another described trump and his candidacy as classy. for the people that like him, he needs to do absolutely nothing differently. >> i think a lot of his supporters and i spent quite a bit of time talking to them at various trump events. a lot of them are projecting on to him the quality they would like to see in a leader that can fix a political system that they are disgruntled with. i think that means you will hear them saying he is a truth teller. he is beholden to nobody. he is not corrupted by politics like so many other people running for president. you know that is what they see in him. i think those are all serious concerns. but trump, ultimate liely is not a serious candidate or is not yet. >> katie, in that same focus group so many talked about trump's wealth as a real asset.
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that is something they aspire to and they want advice from donald trump. in that way, much like another politician might tour an infrastructure project or bridge donald trump touring a donald trump golf tournament is a testament to the work he has done that qualifies him for the office of president. >> it is basically a testament to the american dream. look what this man has been able to do with himself. he is really painting himself as the working-class billionaire. he is speaking a simple language to them. telling them like it is. he is not mincing his words. he is not doing the regular political double speak. he is not toeing around sensitive issues. he calls people names when he feels like he has been unfairly treated. he sounds like an every day working-class american but he is a billionaire. it is approachable and
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achievable for people to say if i were more sensible with my money in this way or that way, i could be donald trump and running for president. he has done an amazing job relating to the every day regular joe, if you will while at the same time traveling in his private jet and living in a penthouse in a skyscraper in manhattan. >> when you talk about the puppet masters of the debate certainly donald trump will play a role. but governor rick perry treated america to some of the best debate moments in 2012 and today he has been booted out of the primetime debate probably by governor john kasich and this is the doing of roger ailes. the fact that fox news will be
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the ashrbitor of which polls are moved. it makes me think that something is off about this whole debate process. >> well you know you have 17 candidates alex. i am not going to defend roger ailes, he can defend himself. but they do have to draw a line somewhere. others are not going to make it. tie think that it would be a shame if rick perry did not make the debate just because he is so great at it. >> by great you mean greatly entertaining, eugene. >> that is what i mean alex. that is what i mean. i for one would miss him. kasich just announced and he has come out of nowhere. making a legitimate showing in the polls. but the difference between 3.2%
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and 2.2% in the polls which is where kasich and perry are now. that is meaningless. well within the margin of error. these are distinctions that might not even exist. but a line has to be drawn somewhere. >> jeremy what of john kasich. he is one of the late entrantette entrants to the race. he is booting out rick perry. how seriously do you think other republicans are taking his candidacy? >> he has a lot of bipartisan appeal. he is one of the handful of candidates in the field that has the ability to swing voters. he sits right now as the governor of what is arguably the most important swing state, ohio. if you look at his characteristics as a politician he is similar to jeb bush and marco rubio. he has the potential to kind of
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broaden the reach of the republican party. the way the republican party has been attracting voters the last two elections, it has been looking increasingly older and increasingly white. they can't win another presidential election unless they broaden who is voting for them. >> we are go to leave it there. thank you all for your thoughts. when we come back after the break, the ohio police officer charged with murdering an unarmed [ man during a traffic stop appeared in court today. we will discuss his plea of in the. and could this be the first piece of wreckage recovered from mh370?
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ohio campus police officer appeared in court today for the first time since being indicted on a murder charge of shooting an unarmed man during a traffic stop. >> you understand you have been charged with one count of murder and one count of voluntary manslaughter. defense did you read the indictment? >> we did. >> what is the plea? >> in the. >> the defendant is facing the possibility of life in prison. the bond will be $1 million. >> one day after a bodycam video
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was released prosecutors released additional cams from other officers that arrived at the scene after the shooting. >> i thought he was go to run me over. >> are you good? >> i am good. >> gunshot wound to the head. >> did he pull on you? >> all right. we have medical. who is injured? >> he was in the car, took off on me. i discharged one round. shot the male in the head. we will need a medic and officers here.
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>> stand back. stay back. >> two of the officers in that video have been placed on administrative leave. joining me now is the lead prosecutor in the case of a haitian immigrant brutally attacked by police officers. let me start with you in terms of the latest bodycam video, the second one. what does that tell you who how the defense is building its case? >> they will use it to argue that the officer that killed mr. dubose was in physical danger. at some point after the encounter he was on the ground he will argue it was consistent with the idea he was knocked over or thought he would be run over by the car. it does not show any of that but it is a piece they will use to corroborate what might be the officer's explanation.
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>> given the county prosecutors words saying it is clearly a murder case. what do you think the strategy is behind a in the plea here? >> at this point the officer will fight the case. that is a pretty routine first step in the case to plead in the. assuming he stays with that he will go to trial and there will be a trial. >> the thing that is i think, obviously the most stunning thing in all of this and the reason it is a national news headline is because of the body cam video. any body cam video becomes relevant and applicable to the case but the first piece of video was stunning and distressing. i want to play what sam dubose's sister said as it relates to the importance of the case and having a video. >> i was go to say if not for
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the videotape my brother's whole character was up for debate. not debate. it was just guilty. he must have done something wrong because two police officers said so. >> the body cam video is relieving because we have the evidence. but it is distressing to think that the narrative would have been completely different had we not had it. what does it tell us about the rush to judgment? >> we are going to ask how many of these cases will we need before we stop automatically giving police the benefit of the doubt and never giving citizens who are unarmed the benefit of the doubt. the first question is how a man pulled over for not having a front license plate ended up dead or how in south carolina, a man pulled over for a taillight ended up dead. these are the questions we refuse to ask. we need to believe the police are upstanding people.
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to move from the perspective of african-american people you begin to ask serious questions about how often it is. >> to think, okay. as the preolice immunity is that changing? >> each one in itself is horrible. innocent men being killed by the police. what the video does in several of these cases is call into the question the credibility of police officers. not just in these cases but more generally. when cases go to juries against real criminals and police officers are called to give evidence will this cause juries or others to be skeptical?
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10 or 20 years ago they would not have been. >> my concern is that is not what i see happening. i see a person that writes about these cases, if there is the belief they are isolated incidents and the way to deal with it is to prosecute the bad apples. so i don't see a national shift in questioning the validity of police officer accounts. i see a move to give them the benefit of the doubt. >> there is also the violence that precedes the violence. even in the case of sandra bland. the violent antagonism of the police officer, the exchange there. the police are truly supposed to be there to keep the peace. even if someone is impertinent, the relationship is frayed from the very beginning. i wonder to what degree you think we will examine that part of these incidents? >> i am sure police departments
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will at some level and case begin to examine what i call deescalation and focusing on avoiding confrontation like you saw in ferguson or the other cases rather than having it get violent from the start. in cincinnati that is more disturbing. up until seconds before the shooting it really wasn't that confrontational and angry or violent. it all triggers within a couple of seconds when the officer reaches in and the driver puts the key in the ignition and within two seconds he is shot in the head. there is something more basic troubling about police tactics and how to deal with the situation like that. >> all of it is disturb to me. >> hopefully it is -- well it is all disturbing. whether it leads anywhere is the next question to be asked. when we come back we have
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tom costello who has been following all parts of the season. tom, what can you tell us? >> 657 bb does come from a trailing edge flap on the wing of a 777. if there was any doubt after yesterday when boeing engineers looked at the photographs and said it looks like a 777 part to us. if there is ever any doubt it seems to eliminate the doubt. there is the part number by the way. 6a a 657 bb. this will be transported to ed toed to france and french investigators will do a thorough forensic analysis of the big component, the flaperon if you will. they are going to see if there
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is any indication that would suggest it was a high speed or low speed impact with the water and any evidence of fire scorching, burn marks or anything that would indicate there was an explosion on that piece. then they will look at the barnacles to see if there is any evidence that some marine life on that piece might originate in another part of the indian ocean. investigators are convinced that mh370 went down off of the coast of australia having been flown into the southern indian ocean but somehow over the course of the last 17 months it made its way all around to the other side of the indian ocean and dropped off near madagascar. now what they need to determine is can they backtrack with the
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currents and figure out what was the origination point and maybe, and it may be a long shot but maybe some of the marine life on that wing flap will give them at least a clue. but this is just a single piece of a missing big jetliner and we don't know where the jetliner and all of the people on board rests right now. >> for people that do not know what a flaperon is and where the piece lies on a body of the jet and how and when it could come off on impact give us a sense of the geography of this part. >> well the wing is a very interesting structure and the most important structure on the aircraft and what provides the primary lift for an airplane. it has many moving parts on it. we have an aleron at the far end
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which rolls the plane to the left and right. and then it has a series of flaps that come down and extend the wing surface which e longigates slong gat longigate longigate. >> you see that in landing and take off? >> it does. now the flaperon is a combination of the flap and the aileron. the flap helps it go slower. the aileron helps it go left and right. the flaperon is a smaller piece of the wing. when they are rolling left to right will act as an aileron. when they are landing it will act as an aileron and a flap. >> in terms of the black boxes, we know they send out a signal.
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if we are able to get back to another search area where one might find the fuselage how likely is it that we find the black boxes? >> well that is a long shot. if we take the example of the southern atlantic accident from air france we knew exactly where that plane crashed. we had a pinpoint location and it still took a year to find the aircraft. here we have a much broader search. >> the black box. >> to find the aircraft itself and then the black box. here is a much broader search area. 46,000 miles. we have searched 21,000 miles. before we searched the 21,000 square miles it was uncharted territory. >> there is something that is gleaned from all of this.
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bay's portrayal indulges and risks the belief that one of the chief causes of the benghazi deaths was a order to stand down. debunked by new fewer than seven congressional communities. the film's release comes two weeks before the iowa caucuses. joining me now is mike peska. my reaction was for shame, john. for shame. seven committees have investigated this. reams of paper and man hours and public funds have been spent investigating. when it comes to the stand down order, there was no stand down order. will that make a difference to the american public? >> he will turn the camera what
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is this all about? i know why it is infuriating, but i don't think a movie really changes peoples' minds. movies get popular like "american sniper" when it plays into a preexisting mindset. michael bay, did he change our minds? did con-air or the rock jawchange the way we think about jails? initially they lied about the cause, true. it was a tragedy, true. something could have been done to beef up security. these are all true things. other than that i don't think the american public will jump on to it. >> we can differ on our assessment of how the administration handled this. john the bigger point that i think is worth discussing is whether movies can change perceptions. zero dark 30y gave a lot of folks that believed in what we did, water boarding and torture, that was validation.
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they did not care about the assessments elsewhere from the senate intelligence committee. that was the house they walked into. >> especially given that in terms of history, movies are a very vivid way to think you are connecting with history. that might be the way people in 10 or 20 years imagine what happened with catching bin laden and the same thing with benghazi. i don't know if we are talking about it affecting the election. but it is an irresponsible act. i am not sure where you draw the line. that is not distant history. that concedes of how we interact with politics today and politician tharst are still working. the bad version of benghazi is the better drama. >> yes. on a storyline level. >> but when that happened five minutes ago, i think it is a really cheap shot. if you do that movie for the popcorn value, i would have
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waited ten years. even then that will be history. >> our political -- some of the political ads coming out right now look like cheap michael bay rip offs. whether it is certain presidential candidates chainsawing the u.s. tax code or melting cell phones the presidential election is like a bad action movie. >> absolutely. i look at it as a potshot at hillary clinton's campaign. >> really? >> absolutely. i think it is designed to implicate her. part of the trailer they have shown is this diplomat this bureaucrat keeping our military from saving our people. it is the resistance to the diplomatic approaches the kind of rhetoric that comes out from the right. it is meant to pander to that base and whip everybody into a
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frenzy and bring us back to that same moment again. it will call her into question again. unlike other political moments, i think the right will latch on to this. their base is not particularly bright around certain things. >> i don't disagree that it will be used as a political tool. but i am not sure it was a concerted hollywood effort to discredit hillary. there are like 15 transformers movies. 17 fast and furious movies. what do we got out there? benghazi. can we green light the benghazi script. >> i don't think they give a darn. >> family show. >> it would be the impact whether it was the intent or not. >> did primary colors change minds or that george bush movie. transformers change minds? >> what about the recent
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controversy over selma, certainly a longer history but people believed the way we narrated that story told us about how we were as a country. i do think people are interested. >> to this day i think of primary colors and what a good performance it was. i have to think what was true. what was not? >> a lot of us do that with all of the clinton administration. >> mike such a sour puss. today mitt romney slammed ted cruise cruz for comments. in a tweet high wrote i am opposed to the iran deal but ted cruz is way over the line on the obama terrorism charge. way over the cause. when you send billions of jihadists trying to kill americans you bear responsibility for the murder they carry out. one reason republicans get
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clobbered, we have leaders like mitt romney and jeb bush who are afraid to say that. who is more bum body that tweet? >> i think jeb does not mind it. i think that is his brand. he is a reasonable guy and would never say anything like this. there is a certain tragedy to ted cruz. he has nothing limiting him. in the senate his thing is to take on senate leaders and pretty much gets smacked down. but i think on the campaign trail it looks to trump and how never blows back with what trump says. he says that is it. i am go to say these outrageous things. i don't see much evidence if you say anything outrageous in a republican primary that will ever hurt you. i don't know that mike huckabee's status went down and cruz even though it is outrageous i don't think his status will go down for saying it. >> is it sad to live in a world
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without rules and borders. like being raised at a commune and being allowed to eat candy for breakfast? >> people say these things and they eat their candy. but history will judge these people. this will be seen as a low point of the republican party, that people could regularly say things like this. no. they do not get hung occupy the wall. they still have people that like them. but people vary in terms of what they value in a candidate. i think they are beginning to realize it. >> not only does he is whether through money or policy. >> ted, you should not have crashed the car. >> let's think about what the
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children are doing. what are you doing? they want a war with iran. i don't believe there is a real investment in diplomacy and stability. i think we have to been the ways that people think about it on the right, america has been invested in showing its imperial might through war games and action. that is why we are getting this rhetoric, and it remains to be seen whether it is a govern to the center type of moment neentmeant to whip up the base. we want to come and get these bad guys. we don't want anybody to stop us from doing that. >> even mitt romney. >> thank you guys all for your time. we will have more of it ahead.
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. a los angeles court issued a temporary restraining order preventing an anti-abortion group from releasing new videos featuring the california company that provides fetal tissue to researchers. the group has been behind a handful of undercover videos targeting planned parent hood in recent weeks. today they released a fourth video showing a planned parent hood employee discussing the sale of fetal tissue. they called the videos nothing short of an attack on women. joining us now is the president of the national organization for
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women, terry o'neal. it has been a big week. abortion is at the center of a heated debate in the senate where three republican women appear to be leading the charge on this. yesterday senator mitch mcconnell framed it as protecting women's health and a group mired in scandal. this is a different strategy on the part of republicans. >> those women will not hold their seats much longer. i don't think it is effective and here is why. the republican leadership has an unfortunate history of chewing up women and spitting them out. they might use it as cover for their anti-woman agenda. i say that with sorrow, right. because it is not good for women's rights advocates if only one party is seen as being for women and the other party is seen as being opposed to women. but the republican party once
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more is going down the road of losing the women's vote and now they will be losing the millennial vote. it is a real problem. >> terry hillary clinton called the videos disturbing. we know she has a longed history with planned parent hood. i wonder if it feels like she is vulnerable on this issue. >> you know i don't think any politician is that supports planned parenthood. it is loved and trusted. 2.7 million women and young men get their medical services from planned parenthood every year and one in five women utilized the services at some point. moms loved planned parenthood because high schoolers and college students, their daughters get excellent service, honest services and get services
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they can trust. so to the degree that hillary clinton says somehow planned parenthood has done anything wrong i would disagree strongly with her. planned parenthood has nothing to apologize for, nothing. >> were you dismayed that she said she was disturbed by the videos and did not speak specifically to the group behind them? >> you know i happen to walk out of the south metro station in downtown washington tuesday morning. what it was that i saw when i came up the escalators? a huge poster of bloody fetuses. that is disgusting and disturbing and not produced by planned parenthood. it is by this shadowy group, whoever they are, and turn out to be deeply connected to operation rescue which is well known as being on the violent fringe of anti-abortion activism. no. planned parenthood has nothing to be ashamed of.
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tonight, cameras police and race. >> we have the video of the body camera, without it chances are we would never know what the prosecutors said happened. >> why do we believe that their word will somehow trump what is on a video cam. >> in all four cases where an officer has been charged, there is videotape. there have been zero prosecutions with no. >> what appears to be a piece of wreckage from malaysian airlines flight washed aboard. >> others are trying to outtrump each other. >> very importantly i am number one with the hispanics.