e people? they are working so hard on it. i try to be the person that can see it from the distance who's not as tired as them and can say this is making sense or you thought of an idea three months ago that you forgot about. i will remind you of this. >> we will have to wrap it here. can you stay and we will talk more and put it on the web. >> sure i love the worldwide web. >> that's the rest of it will go. hardball is up next. what is the story on this trump thing? is this a campaign or a comic book? let's play "hardball." >> when you hear this guy and who can't, you're hearing a mating call to the american people.

and a lot of people to the right and center right are calling back. what it's ahead got the others don't? they're calling too but the only guy americans are hearing is that billionaire from the big apple. is this a summer row manls or the real thing? what do you think? >> the lobbyist there's come see me but i don't give a [ bleep ] about lobbyists. every time mexico sends people over, we charge mexico $100,000 for every person they send over. >> how could bush be in first place? this guy can't negotiate his way out of a paper bag. >> i seep your senator. what a stiff. what a stiff. lindsey graham. he gave me his number and i found the card. i wrote the number down. i don't know if it is the right number. let's try it. 202 -- [ bleep ] [ bleep ].

>> so i don't know. give it a shot. your local politician, he won't fix anything but at least he'll talk to you. >> we're going to the border and we'll see you later. hopefully we'll see you later. people say it's so dangerous, what you're doing. i have to do it. i have to do it. >> rnc chair, political report we the "washington post," and joan walsh is editor at large. so if you watch him every day, joan, you first. i got my articles wide out. it is a predictable gesture. he is making a proposal. this is, is this okay? the hands in the air. in the air. okay? are the people, why are the people saying, a lot of them saying yeah, yeah. why? and they're saying yeah, we like what you calling us.

we're calling you back. >> he's not my cup of tea. >> well, i know that. >> what i see, even i see when i look at him, a certain passion that's lacking from a lot of other candidates. he really seems like he wants to be. there he is having a ton of fun. it is the summertime. he's very entertaining. he is saying crazy things that make sense to people because they're so simplistic and so impossible but he is scratching an itch. we talked about, the party is reaping what it sows. right now he is leading. >> you know, you see the warm-up back to the real thing. i don't know when we're going to know the answer. people are saying yes to this guy and they don't even their other guys. who sits around and thinks about huckabee? give me a break. i'm doing what he's doing. i'm making a prom significance here. a proposition.

this is the way he talks. >> i saw it myself this weekend in eye waffle chris christie was there. des moines, 120 people. donald trump was way down the road. 1,300 people. and i feel christie more than anybody has suffered from this. >> that was his style. >> if you want straight talk, christie can't compete with that. even if he has actual facts and numbers and trump has things he'll do imaginally without congress. >> is he like a really good auctioneer? i remember going to one auction, this guy said this is really good rope. this isn't clothes line. it was a piece of rope. and he was it the biggest deal in the world. >> there is a little of that. i think the over arching thing here, and you're right. he is opening himself up. >> you're doing it. >> you're doing it too. >> he's not closed off from people and that makes a difference. >> he has a big lead in new

hampshire where bloomberg, they just conducted a focus group of 12 republicans in manchester who said they like trump. not a regular, he they have an inclination to like this guy. let's watch him in action. they like him. >> he doesn't care what people think. >> unchoreographs. >> he is honor. >> i like his roughness. a living reaganesque. >> he is not a politician. >> like he said, i won't be bought off. >> as he threat. he doesn't fit in the same box. >> he is one of us. he may be a millionaire which separates him from everybody else. besides the money issue, he is still in tune with what everybody is wanting. >> he is successful. i want to be a billionaire. >> tell me what you think a trump presidency will look like? >> classy. >> i think we can be a proud america again. >> to the american people, it would be a presidency of home. >> wow, your thoughts?

the woman especially grab me. i don't want to get too sexual or gender. the kind of guy he is. something about him they liked. >> yeah. i guess i do. it is really hard for me. i look at those people and i feel sad. that is really such a low common denominator. they're all not got go vote for him but they seem to see this wishful thinking. >> low common denominator. what did you mean by that? what did you mean? >> they're really, they really don't have a firm grasp on reality on, what it will take to solve the country's problems. they don't. we're all going to sit here. he's going to say that's the elite media. >> i'm fine. i'm fine with that. >> up it but i think -- >> i'm not fine with it. you want to know why trump is doing what he's doing it? because of comments like that. because of attitudes like that.

>> oh, sure. >> your high brow is looking down on my low brow. you are somehow better than me. >> i don't think i'm better than them. i don't. but they're not thinking. they want to be enter tained. >> your comments relate that way and that's the problem. when people hear that, whether it is from the media or republicans in the party, they go, this guy. he is speaking to me. i may not agree with everything he's saying but he is one of us. he is a billionaire but he's one of us. your comment does not come off as you're one of us. as long as they hear that -- >> i'm so much more one of them than he is. i was not born to wealth. >> keep up that. i think you're right. the whole thing is ironic. the women are offering a number of different sensibilities. they sort of suggest he's not one of those it's pencil neck politicians. i mattered too. the good wife on tv where diane

likes the ready and ready guy, the ballistics expert. he does come off more rough and ready. >> i think chairman steele was right. we might think of elitism as how much money you have. that's not how voters think. >> they think he is a regular guy who is rich. >> like em, i want to the a billionaire too. >> i can have the girl i want. he is known for attractive women around him. >> maybe they've stayed in a tower like that. his biggest applause lines weren't immigration. it was attack the des moines register which said he needed to drop out of the race. >> he said that. nobody reads or almosts it around here right. in iowa. a new quinnipiac poll has donald trump leading by 7 points over scott walker who i think will be the ultimate beneficiary.

jeb bush, the establish many. here's the impressive part. a trump sweep among all the major republican demographics. the billionaire of new york city, he is the guy who described holy communicate as those little crackers. his number one choice among white born again evangelicals. those who define themselves as somewhat conservative, as moderate. he leads the field among both men, got it here, and women. >> i saw that. all of us have been wrong so far about him. i want to say, a lot of people thought that remark about the cracker was going to be the end of him work evangelicals but it wasn't. he keeps succeeding and i think it is a sign of the weakness of the field. no one else is exciting. no one else is telling it supposedly like it is. and people are not paying attention. john kasich had a great opportunity with his opening speech. we all fell asleep.

there is nobody going out there. >> i final him interesting. >> that speech though? come on. >> we don't know -- >> okay. you're right from your perspective. bottom line. you're tough. i'm just trying to survive here. to host, catch this, the women's british open golf championship. as he guy for women of he didn't pass up a chance to slam the political class here. let's watch trump in scotland. >> for the last few months i've been, i hate to use the word. i've been a politician. i talk about politicians, all talk. no action. they don't get job done. they're terrible. our country is going to hell because that's what they do. they talk and there's no action. i think we're so politically correct in our country that people are sick and tired of it and things aren't getting done. we're diplomatic in our country and everybody hates us all over the world. we're politically correct and the world hates the united

states. >> you know, the weird we know in this. that phrase, completally correct, you don't make ethnic slurs. what is wrong commitally correct? >> you're judging what i say, you're judging how i live, you're making judgments about me if i don't fit your pre defined notion about what i should be or what i say. if i want to express something, all of a you is, that's off limits. a guy like trumpl comes in and says that's bs. this is how i am. deal with it. we can see they can't deal with it. he is pushing the envelope and he is going to, we'll say next week, whether or not he makes people rise up to him and do a trump. play trump card. or if they stay back just to be cautious. >> i don't see how they go to being in love with him this

summer and in love with jeb bush next summer. >> we've seen it before. >> i don't think so. >> women are not going to go for donald trump. we had some women in a republican focus group that found something about him. >> we have it in the polls. >> he is leading in the polls. >> that's true. among republican women. he is not going to wear well. >> you don't get on vote in the republican primaries. you don't get a vote. you're brilliant and wonderful but you don't get a vote in the primary. >> this is a away game for you. >> why am i so tough? i'm talking like trump. thank you, michael steele, thank you, dave, thank you, joan walsh. coming up, one week to go before the all important first debate. john kasich is on the rise and could make the cut. the big question, how do you want donald trump?

plus, even mitt romney says he went too far by calling them the leading finlseer of terrorism. donald trump versus bernie sanders. trump offers a new bit of improv every night. bernie sanders is as reliable in a broadway performance. finally, let me finish my question. is this how we pick a president? this is "hardball." the place for politics. i asked my dentist if an electric toothbrush was going to clean better than a manual. he said sure... but don't get just any one. get one inspired by dentists.

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they're going to say, nice guy, good guy, i don't know if he can win. together, we'll prove them wrong again. won't we? >> welcome back to "hardball." what a difference a week makes. down in ohio, the most popular governor john case delish could

make a popular bid for the white house. lackluster fundraising and polling. one week later he is starting to rise. the politico report that he raised more than $11 million. he has moved up to 5% in the latest national poll by quinnipiac and inched up by 7% in a recent monmouth poll. and he could now make the debate cut off. he has vaulted into the top ten of republicans bumping out former governor rick perry. for more on the sea biscuit as i'm calling him. john and matt, let me start with john. we'll start with matt. let's do it either way. whoever wants to take it. i think that these primaries in these early debates are all part of the process. they all relate.

it helps people figure it out. many will never even be imaginable as president but somehow through their conversation with people, they watch them. i think we're going here. so they find the spot where they want to be. they figure it out. i have a sense that trump will play a big part in this summer. hot all summer. at some point he won't be as dominant. but he will push the party into a different mode. it won't be the elite or the establish many. the voices heard will be the working guy. and the people who will benefit from that are walker probably and probably this guy. case dlix. i don't know which one. it won't be bush. bush cannot benefit from the success of donald trump. what do you think? >> i don't know if i agree with that. i think that republicans are not used to having this much stride

yhency. they're used to having a front-runner. i wonder how much republicans will like going deep into the process. >> i agree. in term of tone and class. he is running against -- >> scott walker didn't to go college and he doesn't apologize for it. emhe had to drop out and pay some bills for his family. and he seem working class. >> the best part, i didn't think that announcement was great but i thought best part was who he was and who his parents were. i didn't even know that about john kasich. we're learning about these be this candidates. >> i think we're covering an attempt. it is not exactly a courtship. it is the beginning of something. finding who you are. and i think they'll final their way. not to the elite again. i don't think they can get back to the bushing.

>> in jumping off what matt just said and what you just said. i think what we're seeing is a clash between, as you called it. the class folks and the elite. and it played out starkly forng for me on. morning joe they showed the folks. they all loved trump. >> and they talked about him in a certain regular way. >> nothing about ideas. it is all emotion. same thing today. new york times below the fold. chris christie, same temperament. same personality as donald trump. they don't think his tell it like it is personality -- >> why does one work and not the other? >> this is the point i'm getting to. the folks in that focus group were all regular ordinary republicans, or leaning republican. five of the seven people quoted in that new york times story were committee chairman, party

chairmen, former elected officials. working class versus the elite of the party. and we're seeing that clash right there. >> so is the have the elite is still trying to get somebody buttoned down. >> they like chris christie but they don't think he has the temperature paermt. do you want -- >> i wonder, the president is the coolest guy in the world. he is sinatra. maybe they want somebody a little heated up. unlike the rivals, kasich has refused. casing about a report about trch's ex-wife, he wonderful take the bait. >> just leave him alone. obviously it is a painful story for hill, for his former wife, leave him alone. >> move on. talk about his politics, something else. >> what do you mean, what do you

mean? he is not a fan of talking about hillary clinton's e-mail or benghazi like all the other gop red hots. >> i've known hillary a long time. when i got engaged to be married, she came to the party. i don't hate people because i don't agree with them. if people want to get into it with her on all the little issues, i think she would beat them. >> how will that go over? >> first of all, a lot of people realize, it was just to resonate with people. these poll are happening what do you mean? john case deliver was a conservative in the house of representatives northbound many years. he suffers from the fatigue when they went after bill clinton. he saw the political downside to

the fact maybe they were too strident. and he is one of those who believes he doesn't want to go there again. >> he lost in the '98 election. >> it will not be popular with primary voters. >> they want to go after the clintons' personal life. >> i don't know but -- >> what is the heart of benghazi? >> nail it down. >> she hasn't been forthcoming. >> what is the heart of the evil you claim is there? >> i think there was incompetence. >> by whom? >> by the state department. >> where in the state department? like a name? >> i want to know who you're angry at hearing after hearing after hearing. you're aiming at hillary. >> we lost an ambassador for the first time. >> i know that. we lost new york city under your rule. we lost a war we should not have been in. we don't have investigations every hour.

we lost 3,000 people on 9/11. we don't have investigations over and over and over. >> weighed 9/11 commission. it was bipartisan. >> and it was over with. you're trying to prove that hillary clinton is bad. that's what you're up to. what did she do wrong? >> i'm saying she has to fokter her time as secretary of state. >> just tell me wra the evil is behind it all. >> it is not evil. it is incompetence. >> chris, there have been five -- >> it gets thinner and thinner the more i ask the question. >> if my memory serves, there have been at least five congressional reports, all saying there's no there there. >> and she never said she had a server during those. >> now you're talking about a server. >> because it has information can give it answers. white water. >> i know what the point is. keep asking questions. they never stop. that's what you want. be sure to tune in next thursday night for a special of "hardball" live from cleveland.

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>> who said florida doesn't count? florida, florida is going to deliver a tremendous victory tonight for senator hillary clinton who will be the next president of the united states! >> of course, that was florida congresswoman debby wasserman schultz in 2008. not long ago. now hillary clinton is running

again and debby is the chair of the democratic committee. a long primary campaign will only erode the benefit democrats are poised to reap from the republicans' free for all. i'm convince that had a prolonged debate will do us more harm than good. is he right? are we better off with bernie noise against hillary or better off without him? >> i think eventually the nominee of both parties benefits from having the muscle that they need exercised throughout a primary. i think it atrophies if you don't get to discuss it. i think it is healthy to have a debate throughout the contest. i don't think we'll have a terribly long one. hillary clinton will probably win in iowa.

new hampshire will be very close. there could be an upset. won't that hurt to the left? further left than she would want to go? won't that weaken her in the general? >> what will happen throughout the primary and the republican party. the contrast will be extremely clear. that any of our candidates, hillary clinton, hillary clinton, bernie sanders, lincoln chafee, any of them, will focus on moving our country forward. continuing job growth that we've had under president obama for more than five straight years. we were at 750 jobs a year. >> so he can beept jeb bush? link chafee? come on. >> the american people are with democrats. >> do you want to see bernie sanders speak at the democratic convention? do you want him up there? >> bernie sanders -- >> do you want him on the floor

of the convention? >> bernie sanders has been a good democrat. caucuses with the democrats. >> she speak in prime time? with everybody watching? >> bernie sanders represents, we are a big time -- >> so the answer is yes. >> i said yes. i can say yes again. >> in prime time. >> i don't know what time he should speak. >> maybe when nobody is watching, you mean. >> no. of course he should speak. he should speak in a slot where the appeal that he has across the board, the progressive, pop list message that he has that resonates deeply and widely with the american people, not just democrats, absolutely that should be featured. the difference between us and the republicans, we are really a big party. whatever is the difference between a democrat and a socialist? i used to think there is a big difference. what do you think it is? >> the difference between -- >> a democrat like hillary and a socialist between bernie sanders. what's the big difference between a democrat and a socialist? you're chairman of the democratic party. tell me the difference.

>> the relevant debate we'll be having what's the difference between a democrat and a republican. >> i think there's a huge difference. different between a democrat and republican is that democrats fight to make sure everybody has an opportunity to succeed. and the republicans are strangled by their right wing extremists. so where, we're watching them debate. phasing out medicare. and a candidate who actually said that president obama would march israelis to the ovens. that's the kind of debate going on on their side on. our side, we're talking about the best way that we can make sure every american has a chance to reach the middle class. >> are you in or out of the deal? the nuclear deal? >> i'm taking my time to really know that deal well. i'm going to go home and talk to my constituents. >> i'm with you on that. let me ask you a tough question. if you vote it down, it is a -- if the congress votes it down.

then you basically voted a vote of no confidence against president's foreign policy. the weird things is those on the right would say now we'll cut a better deal. how can they trust obama cut a better deal if they knock down the only plan? >> the problem i see with people opposed to the deal, the republicans, i think, have been very irresponsible. where they're unilaterally immediately -- >> they're not looking a at it. the number one decision, what is the most likely scenario that prevents iran from getting a nuclear women -- nuclear weapon. to make sure we can draw contrast and reemphasize support to make sure everyone has access to health care throughout the entirety of their lives. before medicare, seniors faced medical bankruptcy, families were medically bankrupt.

republicans like jeb bush would phase out medicare. every republican on the other side why. >> that's a solid argument. i don't think the republicans would have said that. >> thank you. debby wasserman schultz. up next, crazy talk. we'll look at the wildest talk about the iranian deal.

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welcome back to "hardball." they say the reaction on the right to the nuclear deal with iran has been at times over the top is putting it mildly. critics have accused the administration of appeasement. causing a nuclear arms race and much worse. senator graham set the tone saying it was a possible death sentence for israel and the most dangerous step he had ever seen taken in the history of the middle east. here are the top five mostheimer bolic reactions to the deal. let's begin with number five. the form he vice president dick cheney bashing the deal by raising the specter of hiroshima and nagasaki. >> what obama has done is in effect sanction the acquisition

by iran of nuclear capability. a new years down the road. it doesn't make any difference. it is a matter of months until we see a situation where other people feel they have to defend themselves by acquiring their own cape bill. and that will in fact put us closer to the use, actual use of nuclear weapons than we've been at any time since hiroshima and nagasaki. >> the washington correspondent for "time" magazine. the senior reporter for nbc news, and the communications director for the global part group. everybody take a turn here. jay, nagasaki and hiroshima. we're heading toward that. this is the same guy who took us boo the iraq war. >> the whole point is that you're trying to extend the breakout time by a year rather than three months that iran has right now. the whole point is to make it shorter so they don't have hiroshima and nagasaki. to say we're closer to it.

>> number four, the overused and misused reaction to munich. jeb bush said this isn't diplomacy. this is appeasement. >> i believe history will prove this deal with iran is worse than the deal in 1938 with munich. i am a wrong in. >> you're not wrong. >> what is it about this president? neville chamberlain? >> this is worst deal since the munich deal of 1938. >> when our negotiators return with a promise of peace in our time, we should believe it no more now than we should have believed it then. >> they have a limited copy book of history that they copy and report. it is always munich. that's why we went to vietnam, by the way. munich. if we don't to go vietnam and stay there. munich.

>> it seem like this proimary is one trumpsmanship. they're only coming at this from a part santa viewpoint. a plipt viewpoint. >> you mean had he decided ahead of time before they read it? >> i doubt many candidates have had time on read this entire deal. >> i've saved the best for you. the inimitable bachmann who was created on this program, by the way, she weigh in the on this deal by comparing president obama to the co-pilot who downed the passenger plane this spring, killing hundreds. she wrote on her facebook page the following. with this iran deal, barack obama is for the 300 million souls of the united states what that andreas lubitz was. a deranged pilot flying his entire plane into the rocks amid the smoldering remains of american cities. shocked survivors will ask how.

she's pull that down by the way. >> the comments were really terrible. what's the phrase called? obama derangement syndrome? i think that really plids. obama is for it. therefore they have to be against it. >> number two, none other than ted cruz. it you'd to be it could bring sanction relief. >> if this deal goes through, the obama administration will become quite literally the world's leading financier of radical islamic terrorism. >> they said kennedy was an appeaser when he didn't invade cuba. there's always appeasement going on. >> the other thing is called war by the way.

what is the most hyperbolic? it was the stunningly crass historic analogy by mike huckabee. you were right. the worst. >> this president's foreign policy is the most if he canless in american history. he is so naive. he would trust iranians and he would take the israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven. >> that was graphic. any way, despite everyone from the anti-defamation league to the israeli ambassador has called those comments out of line, huckabee continue to stand by what em. >> i didn't say it because it would be popular or unpopular. i said it because i believe it. it was consistent with what they said. >> if we don't do the deal, everybody, and we allow them to be three months from actually having a weapon where they are

now. we don't extent that for a year. we leave israel aware. what is not doing it? what is anybody giving except the potential bombing raid in. >> the alternative is war. if you don't want to take this deal? you're saying that we should go to war now? that is the other option? >> senator graham is holing that as a legitimate alternative. he said who do you think would win a war? the utah or iran? >> who is pushing that? lindsey? >> yeah. >> these the guys who took to us war about five or six times. coming up, the tale of two candidates. donald trump is an improv guy, while bernie has stuck to the same message for decades. why is it working for each of them? this is "hardball," the place for politics.

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it is not acceptable that the rich get richer and everybody else gets poorer, that while we see a proliferation of millionaires and billionaires, we have more kids living in poverty. we're back with the roundtable. donald trump's the ultimate showman, bernie sander is a reliable vaudeville act. in a matchup between the two, who comes out on top? it's senator sanders with a new poll. the liberal guy, the socialist guy is beating the all-time tycoon of the west. how do you figure that out? >> trump has a low ceiling. >> that's your point. >> the think is he's decree controversial.

he would have a hard time getting black -- >> we're going socialist over capitalist. >> but let's be honest, neither one of them will be near the general election. >> trump makes up this stuff every day. give me your cell phone number. bernie has been probably saying the same socialist line. he sounds like a professor from the '60s. just change the audience, but it seems to be working. >> they're line each other's yin and yang, like the millionaire and the socialist. >> sounds like "gilligan's island". >> they complete each other. >> they both owe their success to hillary clinton. while she's giving these policy speeches that are a little gray, not saying anything strong, they're both very black and very white. they are giving the voter something, and they're hungry for that. >> those are called economic statements, things that might be wrong or right, but they mean something. thank you all.

when we return, let me finish with a question -- is this really how we pick a president? i'm dead serious. is this really what we're doing? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. i already feel like we're the most connected but i think this solo date will seal the deal. sure! i offer multi-car, safe driver, and so many other discounts that people think i'm a big deal. and boy, are they right. ladies, i can share hundreds in savings with all of you! just visit progressive.com today. but right now, it's choosing time. ooh! we have a winner. all: what? [chuckles] he's supposed to pick one of us. this is a joke, right? that was the whole point of us being here.

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what's happening now, right now, is part of that, and will play some role in how we get to deciding the matter and actually find ourselves the morning after an election with a real live president-elect in our bed with us. what does gearing up for a ten-head cattle call of republicans a week from now got to do with that? and what does this long-range badge do with picking someone to command the forces, set the budget, run the administration of the united states government? and live in the white house? can we really imagine all of today's contestants getting up in the morning and getting control of things? can we really imagine all of them giving a state of the union address to our 300 million souls? i can see hillary clinton doing it, i can imagine it quite clearly. on the republican side i could see bush in the office. i can see walker, even case irk, but damned if i can see the others. rubio, chris, rick perry, bernie sanders? are they actually running for the job of president?

or are they running to run? do they actually intend to have the job? or is this their attempt to play a role the in the process, to sorts off thinking, get a fix of where they want to go after the dust settles. i don't mean to belittle the role by the two big surprises. trump is no doubt steering this race to the right, probably helping to elect walkeror kasich. the more people he gets aroused, the less a bush nomination seems plausible. the more it opens the wedge for the new kids on the block s same for bernie sander. he can raise the issues, sharpen the arguments certainly,al really make a protest, bits it's hillary who is actually running for the office. the real question is how much bernie moves says herry leftward, hikes up the heat level. my point is ought candidacies are not created equal. just ban they don't cross the finish line doesn't mean they don't matter, even a lot. that's it for "hardball." "all in with chris hayes" starts

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