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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is a dream to go in. >> an inmate injured. >> i never expected her to attack me from behind. >> friendships over. >> live and learn. >> and -- >> walk in and everybody is looking at you like you are crazy. man, we just seen you on the
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news. >> they are accused of a high profile double murder. >> it's not going to happen. >> as a first comer, one must learn the harsh reality. >> any sign of weakness -- >> i never saw that. >> ain't no place for ya, man. >> noun for town squares that date back to the 1700s. >> the stark architecture, savannah, georgia is one of the nation's top tourist destinations. >> five miles from the river front hotel and restaurant is a
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very different site. >> this ain't no group for you. >> don't come down here. i don't fight [ bleep ]. >> chatham county detention center has a population of 1500 men and woman. most of whom are only charged with crimes. they are waiting resolution of their cases. but the man who runs it jail says many more run through every year. >> we bring about 18000 people a year in here to be booked. that's a lot of people in and out of the jail. many get out on bond immediately. many that are still here can't make bond or didn't get bond from judges. >> such is the case with nathanial wilkins. >> what kind of job skills do
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you have? >> he was working at a cher at a popular savannah restaurant. now, he's exchanged his apron for a jail uniform. >> murders shocked neighbors. some told news 3 at the time, this is the first time for trouble in decades. >> the victims, a former boss at a restaurant, they were found shot to death. wilkin's arrest came two years shy of the one-year anniversary. >> honestly, i can tell y'all on camera, i didn't have anything to do with it at all. >> charged with murder and aggravated assault. when he enters his plea, it will be not guilty. >> he was my own boss. everything i learned cooking wise came from him. me, trying to do that to him, my heart wouldn't allow me to do it at all.
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you walk in and everybody looking at you like you are crazy. they are like man, we just saw you on the news. >> wilkins had prior stays in chatham county. they include fighting in a public place and battery. >> just fighting. me shooting somebody is not going to happen. >> wilkins admits, however, the male victim in this case fired him prior to the murders. >> i got fired because they say it was slow. i can honestly say i really wasn't doing my job then because i got too comfortable. when i got comfortable, i started slacking in my work. >> he says it was weeks between the firings and his murders. the time line between the
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murders and the firing is not officials. he says it's a motive. >> police are trying to use that as a motive. 7:00 that same day, i got another job. >> management says they will not confirm when he started or discuss other aspects of the employment or the employment of his codefendant who also worked at the restaurant. in addition, michael jones is engaged to wilkins sister. like wilkins, he faces charges of aggravated assault and murder. >> i'm dating his sister. they think he done it. and i was probably with him. they don't know for sure if i was with him. the question they asked me, was i there or was i a shooter. that's crazy.
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>> i never seen him in my life before. i haven't been there. i haven't done it. i have no reason to kill those people. >> investigators have not released information on the motive or evidence they have against jones. they believe a mutual acquaintance turned them in after an award was offered. if found guilty, they would be eligible for the death penalty. >> trying to get something that don't have none. they said i did this or did that. >> in an instant, your life can be ruined like that. >> jones says with no criminal record, jail is a whole new world. >> i wouldn't wish it on nobody. i pray my kids never see this.
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waking up here is like a bad dream. i'm praying it was just a dream. sorry for the families and i do -- that's who should be in my position right now. i don't want to be that guy that 20 years down the line see your kids through the glass. no, man. man. that would take my life through [ bleep ]. coming up, another inmate takes michael jones. >> the first chance they get, they will cross you. >> an assault on the female unit. >> they are cheering it on.
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savannah, georgia, say there's approximately one fight a day among the 1500 inmates inside the sprawling facility. the vast majority of those fights are between male inmates. >> men have to prove their manliness. they can't let someone run the show if they think they're the one running the show. fortunately, it's not as common for the women to fight. they do seem to keep it a little more in check. i think there's more verbal squabbles than physical altercations. >> but less than 24 hours earlier, lori dowda was in a fight and now she's has a black eye to show it. >> i got hit from behind. she came and knocked me in the head. i didn't see nothing after that. everything went black.
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>> i let my guard down. i was cleaning up my room. i never expected her to come in my cell and attack me from behind. >> morgan cavallucci identified as one of the assailants, thanks to the videos throughout the jail. >> you see her heading up that way. they're all watching. now they're getting up and moving. that's because another officer has come in over here. they're going tell her to hold off for a second. so she kind of strolls back over, but you can see how she's walking like she's pumped up. now they're giving her the green light to go on in. she does. they're all cheering it on. they're loving it. they're not the ones going to get in trouble, so what do they
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have to lose by encouraging a little action? >> seconds later, officers respond to the fight and break it up. cavallucci is taken to a segregation cell pending the hearing on the matter. >> it blows being in lock up. part of life, you know. live and you learn. >> i didn't really feel bad until i was sitting here by myself. when i brought in here i was like what did i do? why did i do that? it was foul and wrong of me. just, i mean, she's a good friend of mine and we were like that. >> her situation is similar to mine whether it involves family and not having knob to lean back on. icon nekted with her, but it is jail.
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>> dowda will begin a one-year burglary sentence. cavallucci is awaiting trial. charge the methamphetamine with intent to manufacture, to which she pled not guilty. the two women met in jail. >> we were roommates for a month and a half. we built a stronger connection, but i didn't think it was like that. i thought, you know, it's a friend kind of thing. i told her things. she told me things that she liked me more than that. at first it was like, okay, you know, going to see what's going on and, you know, it's not me. i'm not gay. it didn't work out that well. i was like i can't. she got mad at me. >> i mean, i say we're just friends. i'm not going to say anything that she wouldn't want me to say. >> is there a sexual relationship between the two of you? never? >> i have back problems. i have scoliosis. i used to let her give me back massages and stuff. it wasn't nothing to the point where i thought she was coming
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on to me or something. >> dowda said the relationship cooled after she was assigned to a different cell. dowda got a new cell mate. >> she got jealous of my new roommate because me and her get along really well. she just went off. >> cavallucci said the fight stemmed from an incident in which dowda told staff that cavallucci was making too much noise on the unit and interfering with her ability to study for the ged exam. >> i wasn't going to be disrespecting the whole dorm and stuff. they knew she snitched on me. they heard her. they were like why would she call you out like that. if i would have backed down or anything, i would have been disrespected more. more so everybody amped it up. people were like get her. >> cavallucci said now she had a
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change of heart and wants to make amends. >> i need to give her a sincere apology and hope she'll still be my friend. she doesn't have a lot of people in her life. coming up lori dowda opens up about her real significant other and he's in jail, too. >> for a long time i looked at men like they were monsters. he changed me a lot.
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michael jones hasn't been in jail long but already long enough to laugh off the disturbing first impression. >> when i first came into my cell, i loved my bunk mate's cubby thing down here where you keep your private things and i see three jars of petroleum jelly, baby oil. i thought old lord i'm going to have to fight for my virginity in here. >> he turned out to be anything but a predator.
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>> my bunk mate is not like that at all. he's smart at hell. he's been through the system stuff before. that helped me a lot on how to make it in here. >> don't move. >> you're right, you're right, you're right. i've been around murders within rapist, drug dealers, killers. i've been around it all. >> i try to give him the basic don't take nothing from no one. you know what i mean? stay in the cell and you'll be all right. >> hicks has a wealth of experience to draw from. he's had numerous stays in jail on convictions including sale of a controlled substance, criminal trespassing, receiving stolen property, and eluding police. >> they don't care. they'll smile at your face and stab you in the back. nobody singing too loud in the church choir. the first chance they get they're going to cross you. >> hicks is currently charged
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with eight felonies. the most serious being three counts of a sale of a controlled substance. he plead not guilty and awaiting trial. >> because, you know, guys will try it. you have to show them like no. i'm a man. you're going to treat me like a man. if you don't they're going to run over you. >> jones is one of two men accused of a double murder of a young couple. his co-defendant is his future brother-in-law who is a former employee of the male victim. wilkins is housed in another part of the jail. both men say they're innocent. >> deep down inside it's still killing me. i still had a special to be here by myself. i might bawl once in awhile. i tighten up. i got to be a man first among these. i can't be a sheep among wolves. any sign of weakness they'll eat you. >> given the gravity of his charges, jones could be in jail for a long time before his case is ever resolved.
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>> i told mike that you might be here for a year or two years. his reaction was like -- what? like somebody drained out the life out of him. i'm like that's not long. but he's like what? are you crazy. that's two years. when he was coming here he was telling me his situation i have a preliminary hearing, boom, they're going to throw it out. i know, it because i didn't do it. i was like they're not going to just throw it out. you might not even go to a preliminary hearing. >> i'm thinking once i get me a lawyer sometime in a couple of days or something then, you know, they're going to say what grounds do you have my client sitting here for. i demand immediate release. there's no evidence, but it didn't work like that. >> morgan cavallucci is awaiting trial on her charge on possession of methamphetamine. after attacking lori dowda jail officials have her own.
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>> she got 60 days of lock down. she'll get an hour out per day to shower and maybe go in the rec yard. she doesn't get to watch tv or use the telephone, she doesn't get to get commissary or have visitors come. >> i mean, i just think 60 days is horrid and outrageous, but i've been told that she had bruises on her face and black eye. i felt bad when i heard that. she's, i mean, she's a pretty girl and i shouldn't have done that to her. >> both women agree that during the month they were cell mates they grew very close. dowda said cavallucci wanted more from the relationship. an assertion that cavallucci neither confirms or denies. she does say, despite giving dowda a black eye, dowda fought back. >> she tried to gouge my eye
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ball. i mean, i know she had a good batch of my hair in her hand. i know, i got hit, too. but when i fight i black out. i have bad ptsd -- it's bad. i black out when i fight and i don't mean to. whenever someone hits me it triggers you're being abused. it's a life or death situation. you have to react. >> where does it come from? >> i've been abused a lot throughout my life. >> dowda said she had a troubled childhood that includes time in group homes, sexual abuse, and being a victim of human trafficking. she says at age 13 she began to cope by cutting herself. >> it was like the adrenaline rush that it gave me was better than a high. it was better than smoking a blunt or popping a pill or something. it was better. then one day i just couldn't take it and i cut myself a little bit do deep and it scared me because everything went black
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and i don't remember if i hit a main artery. it squirted and a lot of blood was coming out of it. >> we all have, you know, a lot of stuff in our childhood and other people's stories are different. hers is traumatic. that's one of the reasons i hope she'll have me as a friend. i want to help the girl. i don't want to, you know, she doesn't have anybody so -- >> but not only does dowda have someone else, he's even under the same roof. over in the men's section of the jail. >> what drove me to her she has great personality. she's very beautiful. very outgoing. but the main thing is she don't ever give up. we've been together going on six months now. it's been rough but it's well worth it when you find somebody
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you care about that much. she's opened my eyes and changed my outlook on life. >> josh holtzclaw is lori's boyfriend and co-defendant. they're charged with second degree burglary. dowda had already pled guilty. she will serve one year sentence. he committed to the burglary and has a deal. provided he successfully completes the terms of the sentence. >> it was all a heat of the moment thing. we figured we could get good bit of money real quick and we made a mistake and went down that road. after that there's no turning back. >> my whole life i've known nothing but burglarizing. that's all i never knew. he's never lived that life before. i burglarized before and i know you can get stuff out of it. >> i wanted to give her a better life than what i was able to offer at the time, and i think
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the fast life is the only way to do that. she was in a tough time and i wanted to be quote, unquote, superman to save her life, and told her from the destructive path she was going down. >> for a long time i looked at men like they were monsters. you are here, you use people. but i know now that i can't judge everybody because of three or four people's mistakes. he changed me a lot. >> but the relationship currently has a major complication. something even beyond being in jail. >> i feel bad about the way i met him because he is married and that makes me look like i've never messed with someone that is married before. it hurts me not just because who he was married to. he was married to my sister. >> coming up -- >> i was married to her sister for three months.
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josh holtzclaw and lori dowda navigate and lovers and inlaws. >> i'll feel better when he's divorced. and more advice for first time inmate michael jones.
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chatham county detention center in savannah, georgia is an immense jail covering about 20i -- 20 acres, the equivalent of 151/2 football fields. nathanial is accused of murdering his boss and that man's girlfriend. >> every day i wake up in a cell. many nights i cry. >> wilkins admits his former boss fired him prior to the murders, but he insists he held no animosity toward him and maintains his innocence. >> i'm sitting in here waiting to go to trial. i don't know when trial will be. it might be two or three years from now. i don't have time to waste because i have kids that i have to go to. i have no choice because there's nobody out there willing to help anybody once you get locked up. once you get locked up it's like oh, well. it's his fault. >> housed in another section of
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the jail is wilkins' future brother-in-law and co-defendant. jones also says he is innocent. both men are eligible for the death penalty, if found guilty. for now they have stopped writing each other out of fear other inmates might use their words against them as informants. >> everything is being monitored. in order to keep everybody in safe you know what i'm saying. i would rather cut all ties with him until it's over. >> jones cell mate hicks has warned him about this. >> you know no honor among thieves. they'll smile at your face and stab you in the back. >> now chris williams his advice for the first-time inmate -- >> you know how profile my case is. everyone is trying to sit around me real close and look for anything to try to get them home sooner.
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>> we've been telling him to keep his distance from everyone. >> for instance, i'm sitting here talking with this guy and next thing you know i see somebody standing as close to me than you would ever usually do. when i notice you you try to ease off. i turn around and go to another spot i see you trying to ease over with your ears. i'm letting you know, man, i know what's up. but i'm not your ticket out of here. they give you a funny look and walk off. you know what i'm saying? >> keep your distance. >> everybody want to go home. >> it stinks, man. >> you don't have to be guilty but they can say something to make you look guilty to the grand jury. >> how does he know to trust you? >> first of all -- it has nothing to do with me. the way i conduct myself -- i these are the people i eat with. >> he don't even know about my
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case, really. >> jones and wilkins have cut off communication now. another pair of co-defendants writes to each other every chance they get. >> happy anniversary, baby doll. i'm all right considering the fact we can't be together on this day. i'm ready to get our lives moving toward better future. >> lori and her boyfriend josh were both arrested for second degree burglary. dowda plead guilty and will soon serve one year in prison. josh is working with prosecutors for a plea deal. >> we went into a school, got electronics and stuff of that nature. we just wanted a quick dollar, and things went downhill there. we've been calling each other bonnie and clyde for awhile. we have been together for six months. >> he was trying to give me my fairytale life. my whole life has been in group homes. he tried to spoil but he couldn't.
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i feel like he's my superman. i wish i could have been her supergirl, but i'm still working on it. >> their relationship has another major hurdle overcome. josh is married and lori is not only his girlfriend but his sister-in-law. >> i was married to her sister for three months before me and lori started to talk and started building our relationship. it's been a very rough road, and it's been well worth it, though. >> even though she hasn't been there my whole life, she still is related to me, and i'm not saying i'm sorry for meeting him. i'm not saying i'm going leave him, because i'm not. i'm not saying that our relationship is over because none of that. i'm just -- i just feel better when he gets divorced. >> but for now, dowda said she would rather focus on the future than dwell on the past. she enrolled in the jail's ged program to get her high school equivalency degree and will soon take her certification test.
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>> getting my ged means i can get a legitimate job. someone can hire me because they have an education. they see i don't have a high school diploma, i don't have a ged and that shakes them. >> if you know what the prefix and the suffix means you can take the words. >> she's helped me a lot. i like to quit and say i'm done and move the book to the side and start doodling. she don't let me quit. she's always pushing me. >> i'm like a mother figure. i found it my responsibility to encourage them whenever they are weak and to decide to give up. i wouldn't let her give up. >> i really liked her. i learned a lot of new stuff. i want to go to college. i want to be a therapist. i think i can help somebody going through things because i know what it feels to go through something. this is not about anybody else but me. if i don't want to become the statistic everyone says i have to change somehow. i have to start somewhere.
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so i got nothing but time. coming up -- >> i'm very nervous and scared. i want to fail. lori dowda gets the results of her ged test, but the results of another test could impact our life even more dramatically. and -- >> hey. it's going to be all right. >> michael jones gets a visit from his fiancée.
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at the chatham county detention center in savannah inmates are allowed two visits per week. there's still a sense of distance. friends and family get no closer to the inmates than a cubicle in the jail's visitation center. they can speak to their loved ones through a telephone monitor. >> the reason why they do video
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visitation because it's better than contact visits. we don't have to worry about contraband entering and exiting the building. it's for protection of the officers as well as the inmate. >> i get visits from my fiancée and talk on the phone. it's good to hear a different voice compared to the voices you hear all day. all you hear is men's voices. when you hear something soft it makes you feel good. it gets you drunk. it gets you drunk. once you get in that mode it's like it feels good to hit this. once you get off the phone it's like man, i'm back in this world again. >> today wilkins' sister has arrived for a visit. but she's not here to see her brother. rather, she's visiting her fiancée wilkins' co-defendant michael jones. both men are charged in a double murder case. >>s it tough having to come visit him every saturday and sunday. it is. i never thought i would see him back here for something he hasn't done.
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so being out here on my own and trying to see his kids on a regular basis is hard for me. i'm about to start crying, but, i miss him. >> b 53.urgess >> just let her know with regard to my situation, your man will keep your spirit up. i can be facing a death penalty i'll make a joke about it. i hate to see her cry. [ laughter ] >> all visits are restricted to 20 minutes. burgess and jones have discovered that the clock doesn't start until the phone is off the receiver. >> when i lip talk with her, she understanded real good. we've been doing it since we were kids. we really talk with our eyes. >> bam. 20 minutes. >> it stole ten seconds from me already. >> i kind of like not picking up the phone. >> i know.
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i told you not to pick it up. now we only have 19: 34. >> you look good! oh! >> you look good. [ laughter ] >> i saw the kids wednesday. >> you saw the kids? >> yeah. >> do they think i'm on the road? don't tell them i'm in here. >> i told them you were on the road but the olest is catching on. >> i want to get home. >> yeah. you have to thank everybody -- >> investigators have not released the evidence they have against jones and wilkins. their arrest came soon after a reward was offered and a witness stepped forward. burgess says she believes in their innocence but is angry they were ever in a position to be accused. >> between mike and my brother, it's like you guys here why did
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y'all feel with the wrong people to get here. who did you socialize with? why do they have your names in your mouth. why you here? what is the reason. they should have been work and home. your responsibility is kids not the street. it really does hurt because sometimes when i'm at home and i think he's at work and he's coming home but when i come here saturday and sunday it's like he's not coming home. you got to continue to come up here to see him through a tv monitor. >> stop crying, it's going to be all right. >> man, i never thought i would be here seeing you. it's hard at night. >> all right. i'll be home. [ bleep ]. it will be like rocky, all right? >> all right. >> okay. >> it'll be all right. >> i know. >> i can always tell her face when she's getting ready to cry that's when i have to bring out the joker to let her know it's
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hard being strong one all the time. there are times when i ain't got nobody around. i cry about my situation at times. >> it's never easy. that's why i try to make her laugh so i don't have to see it. it makes it easier on me, too, to make her laugh. >> i love you. i love you. i love you! >> love you, too. [ bleep ] >> oh, my god. >> i have a woman. that's my ride or die. she'll ride with me until the end of the earth. i don't doubt it at all. even being in here i'm thinking what if this month turns into nine months or two or three years? i don't doubt she'll hang with me. that's how strongs it, man. i tried to say i think people are going to get me and i'm thinking they're going to take me forever.
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it doesn't matter about me being innocent. go ahead and move on with your life. she wasn't having that. you know she's not having that. she's a rider. >> burgess says it's too painful for her to visit her brother. even the weekly visits with jones are getting difficult. >> it's hard on me because now i'm helping raising his kids and helping with bills and everything that he left. and i have no job so i'm trying to do the best i can with what i got. and just feels like everything is being taken away from me slowly. lori said she's known hard times and suffering, too. now, only days from prison to start a one year sentence for second degree burglary, she realizes coming to jail might be the start of a brighter future.
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>> ladies for the ged let's go. >> she recently took her final exam in the ged program. today, she finds out the results. >> are you worried about it? >> i'm very nervous. it's scary. i don't want to fail. just like when i leave here and prison. i'm scared i'm going get out of prison and fall again. >> well, here are your scores. >> i don't want to look at them. [ applause ] >> i'm so happy for you. it's wonderful. i love it. don't cry! congratulations. >> thank you. >> you worked hard. >> lori was very app hencive about her ability to be able to pass the test. she didn't feel like she was ready. i knew she was ready. coming up -- >> he grabbed me and slammed me.
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he got on top me like oh, yeah. >> he moved to a new cell after getting into a fight. now feels betrayed like michael jones. >> it's like psychological warfare in here. that's alls it. and lori feels she may not be alone when she heads to prison.
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inside the chatham county detention center he played the role of mentor to his cell mate michael jones. his main piece of advice is to stay to yourself and keep out of trouble. hicks himself ran into plenty of trouble with another inmate. >> playing cards, you know, words exchanged. you know, a lot of emotions being involved and we were talking and the next thing you know we're talking and debating and arguing. >> his cell mate michael jones witnessed what happened next. >> he was like [ expletive ] you
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tripping. you're tripling. you're going to pay that. i said man you're trip. he said no you're tripping. i felt like he was trying to front on me. i just took off. i just took off. we grabbed each other. >> we hit him a couple of times and went to grab him. i blinked again. he back on the floor. so he grabbed me and slammed me. he got on top like i got you. i don't want to do it to you little brother. i don't want to do it to you. he was like oh. [ bleep ] >> soon after the fight hicks said he felt like he was swindled. after officers moved him to a segregation cell for fighting, hicks realized he was missing several items he bought from the jail commissary.
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>> a lot of things came up short. i was missing like seven bags of chips and four honey buns. where is my stuff? >> jones admits to taking the items but said it wasn't a swindled. it was debt repayment. >> i realized he owed me items. we call that a pc move. you owe somebody something. [ bleep ] >> no. no. heck no. he took way more than what was -- if he took way more. he took way more. i've told him. i was like listen here are things you do and don't. >> among other things, hicks said he warned him to not talk to inmates about his case because they may report the information. truthfully or not to authorities. hicks said now he's in such a position because of what jones told him about the case. >> mike i know your case. you told me your case. you told me your case. it's like, you know, a guy will tell me everything about his
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case and then steal from me. that's crazy. you have to be smarter than that. >> would you do anything to jeopardize his freedom? >> i don't know. i don't know. if i wake up one day and i'm mad and don't have soup to seat and i don't know. you never know. it's jail. [ laughter ] >> i'm not worried about anything at all. there's nothing like that for me to tell him for him to try to come back to get in trouble. you can even make up a lie. i'm not worried about nothing man. nothing at all. >> the choice is yours. i'm not trying to get used to live k like this, you know what i mean or fall myself like these guys but association brings on assimilation at times. you end up living like this when i'm around it all the time. it's like psychological warfare in here. you got my body now you want my mind.
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>> during her five months in jail, lori has experienced more than psychological warfare. she was attacked and given a black eye by her former friend and cell mate morgan cavallucci. on the positive side, dowda earned her ged here but now she's concerned that her jail saga may have one more unexpected development. >> i have issues going on with my stomach right about now. i don't want to say it for sure, but there's a possibility i could be pregnant. if not there's a knot like this big inside my stomach. i know, what to think. i know, my body very well and something is not right. >> when she came to the facility she was tested to see if she was pregnant. standard procedure. she tested negative. then she continued to complain of some stomach issues. the facility made an appointment with the outside doctor for her to get checked for her stomach issues. >> it's very possible to have a
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false negative if you don't have enough hormones within your system. if they're feeling like they're pregnant, then we can get their cycle or feeling like they are pregnant, they can get a sample and do a pregnancy test here. they can get blood work done to show whether or not they are pregnant. >> they said i had an appointment pending. we'll see what is going on. before we got here, we took a home pregnancy test that came up positive. i was like it's home pregnant test. it's not nothing and i threw it. >> she did take a pregnant test. she took multiple pregnancy tests. one of them clearly showed positive, but she also took about ten others and they kept saying negative. i ain't heard much more about that situation. i actually wrote her the other day to find out about it. i'm waiting for the response in a letter. i would love to start a family with lori and have little kids and i don't believe right now is
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the best time to have kids. >> i'm not nowhere near capable of taking care of any living being. i'm barely capable of taking care of myself. that's why i hope that i'm not. >> until she's examined and new tests are taken, dowda and the others on her unit are only left to speculate. >> you've gotten bigger. >> see. >> it's all right here. >> do you believe me when i tell you you're pregnant? >> it would be different if there wasn't a ball in there. that's corn bred. >> it's not corn bread, honey. it's a baby. >> i think but i don't want to accept. it. >> you think what? >> that i'm pregnant. the p-word. i don't want to be a bad mom. i'm scared to be. i don't want to be a bad mom. i guess that's why i'm in denial. >> but the truth of the matter is? you think you're pregnant?
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>> i am.
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