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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. there are 2 million people behind bars in america. vrc vrchs. i never expected her to attack me from behind. >> part of live and you learn. >> and. >> when you walk in everybody looking at you crazy like we seen you on the news. >> they were due to become
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brothers in law but now they are accused of a high profile double-murder. >> me shooting somebody, that's not going to happen. >> and as a first time e one must learn the hash reality. >> i can't be a sheep among wolves. any sign of weakness they will eat you. >> i never thought i would be in here seeing you. >> ain't no place for you, man. known for town squares that date back to the 1700s, architecture and oak trees, savannah, georgia is one of the nation's top tourists destinations but five miles from
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the riverfront hotels and restaurants is a very different sight, one most would do well to the avoid. >> ain't no good for you, don't come down here, boy. savannah will fight. you hear me? >> the detention center has an average daily population of 1500 h men and women, most of whom are charged with crimes and awaiting trial for the resolution of their cases. >> don't come here. >> but the man who runs the jail says many more pass through its booking department every year. >> we bring about 18,000 people a year in here to be booked, that's a lot of people in and out of the jail. many get out on bond immediately. those still here can't make bond or they did not get any bond from the judges. >> such as the case for nathaniel wilkins. >> classification, just have a few questions for you, mr. wilkins. >> yes, ma'am. >> what kind of job skills do
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you have? >> cooking. >> 24 hours earlier, he was working as a chef at a popular havana restaurant but no accused of a high-profile double homicide that occur in a savannah suburb. >> the murders shocked neighbors, some who told news 3 this was the first sign of trouble on this street in decades. >> the victims are wilkin's former boss that was a chef at a restaurant and that man's girlfriend. they were found shot to death outside their home. wilkins' arrest came two week's shy of the one-year anniversary. >> honestly i can tell you on camera, i didn't have anything to do with it at all. >> charged with two counts of first-degree murder and aggravated assault, wilkins says when he enters the plea, it will be not guilty. >> he was my old boss. basically, everything that i learned as in cooking-wise i learned from him. so me trying to do something to him, my heart wouldn't allow me
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to do that at all. when you walk in and everybody just looking at you crazy it's funny. it's like what y'all looking at? man, we just seen you on the news so like watching a ghost walk in the door. >> wilkins has had prior stays connectic convictions like fighting in a public place and battery. >> all my charges are fighting. me shooting somebody is not going to happen. >> wilkins admits, however, that the male victim in this case, his former boss fired him prior to the murders. >> i had got fired because they said it was slow and i can honestly tell the truth and i really wasn't doing my job then because i got too comfortable, and when i got comfortable, i really start slacking in my work. >> wilkins says it was weeks between his firings and the murders but could not be specific.
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the actual timeline between the murders and firing has not been released by officials but wilkins believes it's being used as a motive. >> so police is basically trying to use that as a motive but 7:00 that same day, same night i end up getting another job. >> management at the new restaurant wilkins says he went to work for would not confirm when he started or discuss any other aspects of his employment there, nor would they confirm the employment status of his co-defendant who also worked at the restaurant. in addition to working with wilkins, michael jones is also engaged to wilkins sister and faces charges of aggravated assault and murder to which he plan tops plead not guilty. >> they link me to my brother-in-law because i'm dating his sister. they think he done it and i probably was with him, they don't even know for sure if i was with him. the questions they asked me was i there or was i a shooter? that's crazy.
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>> the victims in this case, i never knew them from a can of paint. i never seen them in my life before. haven't been there, haven't done it. i have no reason to kill these people. >> investigators have not released information on what possible motives or evidence they have against wilkins jones but the future brother-in-law believed a mutual acquaint tense turned them in. if found guilty, both men would be eligible for the death penalty. >> people want to get money, basically trying to say i did this and did that. >> just in an instant your life can be ruined like that. it make me regret knowing certain people, you know. >> and jones says with no criminal record, jail is a whole new world. >> it don't matter how much heart you got, how strong you think you are, it ain't no place for nobody.
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i wouldn't wish it on anybody. i pray my kids don't see this. waking up here i thought it was a bad dream and praying it was a dream but it's real. i'm sorry for the victims' families and i really do pray whoever really did it, that's who should be in my position now. i don't want to be the dad that you 20 years down the line and see your kids through a glass, no, man. man. i'm just praying they don't take my life for some [ bleep ] i didn't do. >> coming up, another inmate takes michael jones under his wing. >> the first chance they get, they going to cross you. >> and. >> you see her heading up that way. >> an assault in the female unit. >> and they are all cheering it on. no student's ever photographed mean ms. colegrove.
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officials at the chatham county detention center in georgia say there's approximately one fight a day among the 1500 inmates inside the facility. the vast majority of those fights are between male inmates. >> men have to prove their manliness. they can't let someone run the show if they think they're the running the show. fortunately, it's not as common for the women to fight. they do seem to keep it a little more in check. i think there's more verbal squabbles than physical altercations. >> but less than 24 hours earlier, lori dowda was in a fight and now she's has a black eye to show it. >> i got hit from behind. she came and knocked me in the head. i didn't see nothing after that. everything went black.
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>> i was cleaning up my room. i never expected her to come in my cell. and attack me from behind. >> morgan cavallucci identified as one of the assail i can't thanks to the videos throughout the jail. >> this is the video of unit one bravo wing. you see her heading up that way. they're all watching. now they're getting up and moving. that's because another officer has come in over here. they're going tell her to hold off for a second. so she kind of strolls back over, but you can see how she's walking like she's pumped up. now they're giving her the green light to go on in. she does. they're all cheering it on. they're loving it. they're not the ones going to
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get in trouble, so what do they have to lose by encouraging a little action? >> seconds later, officers respond to the fight and break it up. cavallucci is taken to a segregation cell pending the hearing on the matter. >> it blows being in lock up. part of life, you know. live and you learn. >> i didn't really feel bad until i was sitting here by myself. when i brought in here i was like what did i do? why did i do that? it was foul and wrong of me. just, i mean, she's a good friend of mine and we were like that. >> her situation is similar to mine whether it involves family and not having knob to lean back on. i connected with her buts it jail. >> dowda will begin a one-year
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burglary sentence. cavallucci is awaiting trial. the two women met in jail. >> we built a stronger connection but i didn't think it was like that. i thought, you know, it's a friend kind of thing. i told her things. she told me things that she liked me more than that. at first it was like, okay, you know, going to see what's going on and, you know, it's not me. i'm not gay. it didn't work out that well. i was like i can't. she got mad at me. >> i mean, i say we're just friends. i'm not going to say anything that she wouldn't want me to say. >> is there a sexual relationship between the two of you? never? >> i have back problems. i have scoliosis. i used to let her give me back massages and stuff. it wasn't nothing to the point where i thought she was coming
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on to me or something. >> dowda said the relationship cooled after she was assigned to a different cell. dowda got a new cell mate. >> she got jealous of my new roommate because me and her get along really well. she just went off. >> cavallucci said the fight stemmed from an incident in which dowda told staff that cavallucci was making too much noise on the unit and interfering with her ability to study for the ged exam. >> i wasn't going to be disrespecting the whole dorm and stuff. they knew she snitched on me. they heard her. they were like why would she call you out like that. if i would have backed down or anything, i would have been disrespected more. more so everybody amped it up. people were like get her. >> she said nows she had a change of heart and wants to make amends. >> i need to give her a sincere apology and hope she'll still be my friend.
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michael jones hasn't been in jail long but already long enough to laugh off the disturbing first impression. sg sglp. >> when i first came in this cell, i looked at my bunk mate's cubbie where you keep your private things and i see three jars of petroleum jelly. i thought old lord i'm going to
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have to fight for my virginity. >> my bunk mate is not like that at all. he's smart at hell. he's been through the system stuff before. that helped me a lot on how to make it in here. >> don't move. i've been around murders within rapist, drug dealers, killers. i've been around it all. >> i try to give him the basic don't take nothing from no one. stay to yourself, you'll be all right. >> hicks has a wealth of experience to draw from. he's had numerous stays in jail on convictions including sale of a controlled substance, criminal trespassing, receiving stolen property, and eluding police. >> there ain't no honor. they don't care. they'll smile at your face and stab you in the back. nobody singing too loud in the church choir. the first chance they get they're going to cross you.
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>> hicks is currently charged with eight felonies. the most serious being three counts of a sale of a controlled substance. he plead not guilty and awaiting trial. >> because, you know, guys will try it. you have to show them like no. i'm a man. you're going to treat me like a man. if you don't they're going to run over you. >> jones is one of two men accused of a double murder of a young couple. his co-defendant is his future brother-in-law who is a former employee of the male victim. wilkins is housed in another part of the jail. both men say they're innocent. >> deep down inside it's still killing me. i tighten up. i got to be a man first among these. i can't be a sheep among wolves. any sign of weakness they'll eat you. >> given the gravity of his charges, jones could be in jail
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for a long time before his case is ever resolved. >> i told mike that you might be here for a year or two years. his reaction was like -- what? like somebody drained out the life out of him. i'm like that's not long. but he's like what? are you crazy. that's two years. when he was coming here he was telling me his situation i have a preliminary hearing, boom, they're going to throw it out. i know, it because i didn't do it. i was like they're not going to just throw it out. you might not even go to a preliminary hearing. >> i'm thinking once i get me a lawyer sometime in a couple of days or something then, you know, they're going to say what grounds do you have my client sitting here for. i demand immediate release. there is no evidence. it didn't work like that. >> morgan cavallucci is awaiting trial on her charge on possession of methamphetamine.
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but attacking her former friend and cell mate lori dowda, jail officials have her own. >> she got 60 days of lock down. she'll get an hour out per day to shower and maybe go in the rec yard. she doesn't get to watch tv or use the telephone, she doesn't get to get commissary or have visitors come. >> i mean, i just think 60 days is horrid and outrageous, but i've been told that she had bruises on her face and black eye. i felt bad when i heard that. she's, i mean, she's a pretty girl and i shouldn't have done that to her. >> both women agree that during the month they were cell mates they grew very close. dowda said cavallucci wanted more from the relationship. an assertion that cavallucci neither confirms or denies. despite giving dowd a black eye dowda fought back.
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>> she's quick on her feet. she tried to knee me. tried to gouge my eyeball. i mean, i know she had a good batch of my hair in her hand. i know, i got hit, too. but when i fight i black out. i have bad ptsd -- it's bad. i black out when i fight and i don't mean to. whenever someone hits me it triggers you're being abused. it's a life or death situation. you have to react. >> where does it come from? >> i've been abused a lot throughout my life. just a lot of triggers. >> dowda said she had a troubled childhood that includes time in group homes, sexual abuse, and being a victim of human trafficking. she says at age 13 she began to cope by cutting herself. >> it was like the adrenaline rush that it gave me was better than a high. it was better than smoking a blunt or popping a pill or something. it was better. then one day i just couldn't take it and i cut myself a little bit do deep and it scared me because everything went black
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and i don't remember if i hit a main artery. it squirted and a lot of blood was coming out of it. >> we all have, you know, a lot of stuff in our childhood and other people's stories are different. hers is traumatic. i hope she'll have me as a friend. i want to help the girl. i don't want to, you know, she doesn't have anybody so -- >> but not only does dowda have someone else, he's even under the same roof. over in the men's section of the jail. >> what drove me to her she has great personality. she's very beautiful. very outgoing. but the main thing is she don't ever give up. we've been together going on six months now. it's been rough but it's well worth it when you find somebody
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you care about that much. she's opened my eyes and changed my outlook on life. >> josh holtzclaw is lori's boyfriend and co-defendant. they're charged with second degree burglary. dowdy pleaded guilty. and will soon transfer to prison to serve a one-year sentence. he is negotiating a plea deal under the state's first defender act that keeps it off his record provided he completes the terms of his sentence. >> it was all a heat of the moment thing. we figured we could get good bit of money real quick and we made a mistake and went down that road. after that there's no turning back. >> my whole life i've known nothing but burglarizing. that's all i never knew. he's never lived that life before. i burglarized before and i know you can get stuff out of it. >> i wanted to give her a better life than what i was able to offer at the time, and i think
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the fast life is the only way to do that. she was in a tough time and i wanted to be quote, unquote, superman to save her life, and told her from the destructive path she was going down. >> for a long time i looked at men like they were monsters. you use people. look at it like you're a dog. but i know now that i can't judge everybody because of three or four people's mistakes. he changed me a lot. >> but the relationship currently has a major complication. something even beyond being in jail. >> i feel bad about the way i met him because he is married and that makes me look like i've never messed with someone that is married before. it hurts me not just because who he was married to. he is married to my sister. >> coming up --
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>> i was married to her sister for three months. josh holtzclaw and lori dowda navigate as lovers and in laws. >> i'll feel better when he gets divorced. and more advice for first time inmate michael jones. we bd we always deliver in the clutch. gloves. clutch. no, sorry. perhaps we take a vote? no. ok guys, are we going to do this or not? let him try... no! sorta you isn't you. honey, you're embarrassing me in front of buster posey. esurance helps make sure you only pay for what's right for you. not someone sorta like you. esurance. official sponsor of major league baseball.
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hi, the hour's top stories. donors contributed more than $400,000 to help pay for the chatham county detention center in savannah, georgia is an immense jail covering about 15 and a half football fields. that that yen is accused of murdering his boss and that man's girlfriend. >> basically it's overwhelming. basically, every day i wake up in a cell. many nights i cry. >> wilkins admits his former boss fired him prior to the murders, but he insists he held no animosity toward him and maintains his innocence. >> i'm sitting in here waiting to go to trial. i don't know when trial will be. it might be two or three years from now. i don't have time to waste because i have kids that i have to go to. i have no choice because there's nobody out there willing to help anybody once you get locked up. once you get locked up it's like oh, well. it's his fault.
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>> housed in another section of the jail is wilkins' future brother-in-law and co-defendant. he claims his innocence. for now they have stopped writing each other out of fear other inmates might use their words against them as informants. >> everything is being monitored. in order to keep everybody in safe you know what i'm saying. i would rather cut all ties with him until it's over. >> jones cell mate hicks has warned him about this. >> you know no honor among thieves. they'll smile at your face and stab you in the back. >> now chris williams his advice for the first-time inmate -- >> you know how profile my case is. everyone is trying to sit around me real close and look for anything to try to get them.
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>> we've been telling him to keep his distance from everyone. >> for instance, i'm sitting here talking with this guy and next thing you know i see somebody standing as close to you than you would ever usually do. when i notice you you try to ease off. i turn around and go to another spot i see you trying to ease over with your ears. i'm letting you know, man, i know what's up. but i'm not your ticket out of here. they give you a funny look and walk off. you know what i'm saying? >> why you think i was warning you before? keep your distance, man >> everybody want to go home. >> it stinks, man. >> you don't have to be guilty but they can say something to make you look guilty to the grand jury. >> how does he know to trust you? >> first of all -- it has nothing to do with me. the way i conduct myself -- i these are the people i eat with. >> he don't even know about my case, really.
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>> i don't even care about his case. >> jones and wilkins have cut off communication now. another pair of co-defendants writes to each other. >> happy anniversary, baby doll. how are you doing today? i'm all right considering the fact we can't be together on this day but i know there is many more to come. i'm ready to get our lives moving toward a better future. >> lori and her boyfriend josh were both arrested for second degree burglary. dowda plead guilty and will soon serve one year in prison. josh is working with prosecutors for a plea deal. >> we went in and got electronics and stuff of that nature. we just wanted a quick dollar, and things went downhill there. we've been calling each other bonnie and clyde for awhile. we've been together for six months. >> he was trying to give me my fairytale life. he tried to spoil but he couldn't.
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he didn't have what he needed. i feel like he's my superman. i wish i could be his super girl but i'm still working on it. >> their relationship has another major hurdle overcome. josh is married and lori is not only his girlfriend but his sister-in-law. >> i was married to her sister for three months before me and lori started to talk and started it up our relationship. it's been a very rough road, and it's been well worth it, though. >> even though she hasn't been there my whole life, she still is related to me, and i'm not saying i'm sorry for meeting him. i'm sorry not saying i'm going to leave him. i'm not. i'm now saying that our relationship is over because none of that. i'm just -- i just feel better when he gets divorced. >> but for now, dowda said she would rather focus on the future than dwell on the past.
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she enrolled in the jail's ged program to give her high school equivalency degree and will soon take her certification test. >> it means i can get a legitimate job. someone can hire me because they have an education. they see i don't have a high school diploma, i don't have a ged and that shakes them. >> if you know what the prefix and the suffix means you can take the words. >> she's helped me a lot. i like to quit and say i'm done and move the book to the side and start doodling. she don't let me quit. >> i'm like a mother figure. i found it my responsibility to encourage them whenever they are weak and to decide to give up. i wouldn't let her give up. >> i really liked her. i learned a lot of new stuff. i want to go to college. i want to be a therapist. i think i can help somebody going through things because i know what it feels to go through something. this is not about anybody else but me. if i don't want to become the statistic everyone says i have to change somehow.
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i have to start somewhere. so i got nothing but time. coming up -- >> i'm very nervous and scared. lori gets the results her ged test but the results of another test could impact her life even more dramatically. and -- >> hey. it's going to be all right. >> michael jones gets a visit from his fiancée. love loud. live loud. polident. number 1 dentist recommended. ♪ fresher dentures with polident. for those breathless moments. hug loud. live loud. polident. number 1 dentist recommended. rheumatoid arthritis like me... and you're talking to a rheumatologist about a biologic, this is humira.
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when you aren't treated like a priority. we do things differently. we'll take care of it. we put members first. thank you. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side at the chatham county detention center in savannah inmates are allowed two visits per week. there's still a sense of distance. friends and family get no closer to the inmates than a cubicle in the jail's visitation center. they can speak to their loved ones through a telephone monitor. >> the reason why they do video visitation because it's better than contact visits.
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we don't have to worry about contraband entering and exiting the building. it's for protection of the officers as well as the inmate. >> i get visits from my fiancée and talk on the phone. it's good to hear a different voice compared to the voices you hear all day. all you hear is men's voices. when you hear something soft it makes you feel good. it gets you drunk. it gets you drunk. once you get in that mode it's like it feels good to hit this. once you get off the phone it's like man, i'm back in this world again. >> today wilkins' sister has arrived for a visit. but she's not here to see her brother. rather, she's visiting her fiancée wilkins' co-defendant michael jones. both men are charged in a double murder case. >> it is tough having to come visit him every saturday and sunday. it is. i never thought i would see him back here for something he
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hasn't done. so being out here on my own and trying to see his kids on a regular basis is hard for me. i miss him. >> burgess 53. >> just let her know with regard to my situation, your man will keep your spirit up. i can be facing a death penalty i'll make a joke about it. i hate to see her cry. [ laughter ] >> all visits are restricted to 20 minutes. burgess and jones have discovered that the clock doesn't start until the phone is off the receiver. >> when i mime with her she understands it real good. we've been doing it since we were kids. we really talk with our eyes. >> bam. 20 minutes. >> i kind of like not picking up the phone. >> i know. i would you not to pick it up
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yet. now we only have 19: 34. >> you look good! oh! >> you look good. [ laughter ] >> i saw the kids wednesday. >> you saw the kids? >> yeah. >> do they think i'm on the road? don't tell them. >> i told them you were on the road but the old c'est catching -- is catching on. >> i want to get home. >> yeah. you have to thank everybody -- >> investigators have not released the evidence they have genz jones and wilkins. their arrest came soon after a reward was offered and a witness stepped forward. burgess says she believes in their innocence but is angry they were ever in a position to be accused. >> between mike and my brother, it's like you guys here why did y'all fool with the young people to get here. who did you socialize with? why do they have your names in your mouth.
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why you here? what is the reason. they should have been work and home. your responsibility is kids not the street. it really does hurt because sometimes when i'm at home and i think he's at work and he's coming home but when i come here saturday and sunday it's like he's not coming home. you got to continue to come up here to see him through a tv monitor. >> it's going to be all right. stop crying. >> man, i never thought i would be here seeing you. >> all right. i'll be home. [ laughter ] >> all right. >> okay. >> it'll be all right. >> i know. >> i got to dos what i got to dos. >> you stupid. >> okay. >> you going to be all right. >> i know. >> i can always tell in her face when she's getting ready to cry that's when i have to bring out the joker to let her know it's hard being strong one all the time.
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there are times when i ain't got nobody around. i cry about my situation at times. >> it's never easy. that's why i try to make her laugh. it makes it easier on me, too. >> i love you. i love you. i love you! [ bleep ] >> oh, my god. >> that's my ride or die. she'll ride with me until the end of the earth. i don't doubt it at all. even being in here i'm thinking what if this month turns into nine months or two or three years? i don't doubt she'll hang with me. that's how strong it is, man.
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i tried to say i think people are going to get me and i'm thinking they're going to take me forever. it doesn't matter about me being innocent. go ahead and move on with your life. she wasn't having that. you know she's not having that. she's a rider. >> burgess says it too painful for her to visit her brother. even the weekly visits with jones are getting difficult. >> it's hard on me because now i'm helping raising his kids and helping with bills and everything that he left. and i have no job so i'm trying to do the best i can with what i got. and just feels like everything is being taken away from me slowly. lori said she's known hard times and suffering, too. now only days from prison to start a one year sentence for second degree burglary, she realizes coming to jail might be the start of a brighter future. >> ladies for the ged let's go. >> she recently took her final
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exam in the ged program. today she find out the results. >> i'm very nervous. it's scary. i don't want to fail. just like when i leave here and prison. i'm scared i'm going get out of prison and fall again. [ applause ] it's wonderful. i love it. don't cry! congratulations. >> thank you. >> you worked hard. >> lori was very app hencive about her ability to be able to pass the test. she didn't feel like she was ready. i knew she was ready. coming up -- >> he grabbed me and slammed me.
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he got on top me like oh, yeah. >> he moved to a new cell after getting into a fight. now feels betrayed like michael jones. >> it's like psychological warfare in here. that's alls it. and lori feels she may not be alone when she heads to prison. ? we're fine. i bundled renter's with my car insurance through progressive for just six bucks more a month. word. there's looters running wild out there. covered for theft. okay. that's a tidal wave of fire. covered for fire. what, what? all right. fine. i'm gonna get something to eat. the boy's kind of a drama queen. just wait. where's my burrito? [ chuckles ] worst apocalypse ever. protecting you till the end. now, that's progressive.
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inside the chatham county detension center, the t6 has played the role of mentor to his cell mate michael jones. his main piece of advice has been to stay to yourself and keep out of trouble. but hicks himself just recently ran into plenty of trouble with another inmate. >> been playing cards, you know. words exchanged, you know. a lot of emotions being involved, you know. talking, next 9 you know we're from talking to debating and arguing. >> his cell mate, michael jones, witnessed what happened next.
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>> he's like, [ bleep ], you tripping, you tripping you building to pay that [ bleep ], pick a room, i beat your ass, pick a room! >> he said, you're tripping. i said, no, you're tripping. i just took off. boom boom, we just grabbed each other. >> hit him a couple of times. went to grab him will be back on the floor. >> he grabbed me, lift me, slam me, boom. he got on top i of me like, i gotcha now. hit me one time, boom. >> i took his shoe. i don't want to do it to you, little bro. he's like, ah, ah, ah! he's [ bleep ] hurt. >> okay, you want a shoe, i'll give you a busted moultss. swap those with him. >> soon after the fight hicks says he felt he was swindled. after officers moved him to a segregation cell for fighting hicks realized he was missing several items he had purchased from the jail commissary.
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>> a lot of things came up short. missing like 12 soups, seven bag of chips, four honey buns, missing a bar of soap. where my stuff at? >> jones admits to taking the items but says it wasn't a swindle, it was debt repayment. >> and i rltsed he still owed me some items. you're not going to get away with that, we call that a pc move, owe somebody something but hurt them and get kicked out? [ bleep ]. >> no, no, heck no. he took way more than what was owed. if he did have something owed he took way more than what was owed to him. i've told him. i gave him the jobs. i'm like, listen. there's things you do and don't. >> among other things, hicks says he warned jones to not talk to inmates about his case because they might report that information, truthfully or not, to authorities. hicks says now he's in just such a position because of what jones has told him about his case. >> you told me your case. and it's like, a guy would tell
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me everything about his case, he ain't going to steal from me. that's crazy. who's going to be smarter than that. >> would he do anything to jeopardize his freedom? >> i don't know. i wake up one day, i'm pissed about it, i ain't got soup to eat, i ain't got soap to wash, yeah, i'll put your business out there. you never know. it's jail, it's unpredictable. you never know what might happen. >> i'm not worried about anything at all. there's nothing like that for me to tell him, to try to come back and get me in trouble. i'm not wor i about nothing, man, nothing at all. >> the choice is yours. >> i'm trying not to get used to living like this, know what i mean, or find myself falling into the pen like these guys. you know, association brings on assimilation at times. around it all the time, you end up adapting to living like this. i'm trying -- it's like psychological warfare in here. that's all it is. psychological warfare. you got my body, now you want my mind.
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>> during her five months in jail, lori has experienced more than psychological warfare. she was attacked and given a black eye by her former friend and cell mate, morgan. and the positive side, she earned her ged here. but now she is concerned her jail saga may have one more unexpected development. >> i have issues going on with my stomach right about now. i don't want to say it for sure. but there is a possibility i could be pregnant. if not, there's a knot this big in my stomach. i don't know what to think. i just know my body very well. i know should go's not right. >> when she came to the facility, she was tested to see if she was pregnant. standard procedure. she tested negative. and then she continued to complain of some stomach issues. the facility made an appointment with an outside doctor for her to go and get checked for her stomach issues. >> it's very possible to have a
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false negative if you don't have enough hormones within your system. if they're saying they haven't seen their cycle or they're feeling pregnant, we can get a sample, have them come up here, get a sample, do a pregnancy test here. if they're still negative, they can get blood work done to show whether or not they're pregnant. >> i put in again today, they said i had an appointment pending, so we'll see what's going on. before we got here we took a home pregnancy test that came up positive. i was like, it's just a home pregnancy test, it's not nothing, and i threw it. >> she did take a pregnancy test. she took multiple pregnancy tests. one of them clearly showed positive. but she also took about ten others and they kept saying negative. i ain't know much more about that situation. i actually wrote her the other day to find out about it. still waiting for the response in a letter. i would love to start a family with lori and have little kids.
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i don't believe right now is the best time to have kids. >> i'm not nowhere near capable of taking care of any living being. i'm not -- barely capable of taking care of myself. that's why i really, really hope that i'm not. >> until she is examined and new tests are taken, she and the others on her unit are only left to speculate. >> you've gotten bigger. see? it's all right here. you believe me when i tell you you're pregnant? >> it would be different if it wasn't a ball in there. okay, it's cornbread. >> it's not cornbread, it's a baby. >> i think but i don't want to accept it. >> you think what? >> that i'm pregnant, the p-word. i don't want to be a mom, i'm scared to be. i don't want to be a bad mom. i guess that's why i'm in denial. i don't want to be a bad mom. >> the truth of the matter is, you think you're pregnant?
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>> i am.
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there are 2 million people behind bars in america. we open the gates. "lockup." >> -- when i came here -- >> beat on that [ bleep ] door again. beat on the door again. you, you, i want you to do it. you do it. >> 98% of these son of a bitches in here ought to be taken out somewhere and shot in the back of the head. >> sell it, sell it, sell it, sell it. that's right.

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