confrontation. instigate confrontation between donald trump and these candidates, we'll see what happens when the gloves start flying. who's going to make the highlight reel. we'll see how it plays out. >> i agree with you, trump will be in the headlines tomorrow. steve schmidt jerry peters, sorry we didn't have enough time to get to you. i'm steve kornacki in cleveland, stay with our live coverage, a special edition of hardball with chris matthews at 7:00 eastern time, right here on msnbc, michael eric dyson is up next. was i'm michael eric dyson, tonight going rogue. the undercard will any of the candidates who didn't make it to

the main event be able to break out of the pack? and jon stewart's last daily show, the 11:00 hour will never be the same. that's all ahead. >> first, we have breaking news. donald trump arrived in cleveland ohio for tonight's republican debate just moments ago. he will take center stage in tonight's big event. and at least one republican isn't happy about it. the former chief of staff to george w. bush came out slamming donald trump in tonight's debate. he simply goes down the list on trump's many conflicting opinions over the years. it should be an interesting debate if candidates or moderators pick up on rove's line of attack. he points out, donald trump told larry king in 1999, i'm quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care. he goes on to cite trump's book from 2000.

the america we deserve, a single pair health care system like canada's -- saying it helps canadians live longer and healthier than americans. we need as a nation to reexamine the single pair plan as many individual states are doing. fast forward to earlier this year. rove points to trump calling obama care a filthy lie and total catastrophe. he also wrote about this 1999 appearance from trump on meet the press. >> i'm very prochase, i hate the concept of abortion, i hate it, i hate everything it stands for. i cringe when i listen to people debating the subject. there is a different attitude in different parts of the country, i was raised in new york, grew up in new york city. but i am strongly pro choice, and yet i hate the concept of abortion many. >> meanwhile, back in january -- >> well, i'm prolife, and.

>> what does that mean to you? >> it's an issue, it's a strong issue. >> rove goes on to highlight his opinions on gun control. he donated thousands of dollars to harry reid, hillary clinton and john kerry. he contributed to everybody. then there's this clip from 2004 that rove conveniently pointed out. >> do you identify more as a democrat or republican? >> well, you'd be shocked to if i said i identify as a democrat. >> on social issues? >> yes, it's interesting. >> i've been around long. i'm not so young any more. i've been around for a long time. and it just seems that the economy does better under the democrats than the republicans.

it shouldn't be that way. if you go back. it seems the country does better under democrats. >> with trump in the number one slot, there's no doubt somebody will try to knock him down. for more, let me bring in louise gutierrez of illinois. >> what are you expecting from tonight's big debate with donald being so central to everything that's going on? >> i hope the contradictions flourish tonight. but -- and thank you, michael for having me on. >> i mean, karl rove, it's almost as though the republican party is saying, you know, donald trump, you can't really be the nominee of our party, you're not against women enough. you're really pro choice and not pro life, we're a pro life party. we don't want planned parenthood for women. this is a party that doesn't

like immigrant rs, that doesn't want to support women. this is a party that doesn't want to make sure that the rich pay their fair share of taxes. what it's basically saying, is all of these components of what is an emerging new coalition of americans, asians, and gays and latinos and immigrants. you know, donald, you used to be -- you can't be a real republican. i hone that comes forward. i think in the end what you're going to see is the republican party establish itself, as a party that doesn't want any of these component groups. it doesn't want to see a victory to the white house. >> let's throw in another category again, that you mentioned. how about the topic of immigration. >> it i think the -- look -- donald trump figured out very early on that if he was opportunistic enough -- i mean, this is the guy, right? that said to romney, you know,

you scared the asians away, you scared the latinos away, you scared the immigrants away because of your policy ap and now calls -- when he says mexican, he really means immigrants, latino immigrants. whether they're colombian or venezuelan or puerto rican. he's going to double down on what he said really cost correctly part of mitt romney's demise in the last election. let's remember, they're going after not the grand american population of women and men and labor otherer and environmentalist, and the gay community and asian and black community. they're not looking to put that kind of coalition together. they're going after angry white men and aa white population in the united states of america. mitt romney got 59% of the white vote, and still lost by 5 million votes to barack obama. >> yeah, that's a big deal.

in light of your first response, about the republican party, do you think that they're really afraid of trump that he brings the kind of heat and pressure and underer coulds? of their contradictions that he this don't really want getting out there too far? >> here's part of the problem. how do you challenge someone on fundamental issues that karl rove asks them when really trump is the epitome of so much of the nastiness, the viciousness, the ugliness, the downright sometimes race inch of the republican party in terms of the position that it lets the american people know that they support. so it's very hard for you to say to donald trump, because then they lose those sectors and those votes. the republican party has brought this upon themselves, they're the party that said, you know what, lgbt community and the congress of the united states, even though the supreme court has crushed doma, even though

the american people have been accepting of the lgbt community even though marriage is now constitution ali guaranteed in the united states, we're still not going to protect you in the workplace, women, we don't care that there's this equal wages between men and women, and latinos, yes, your brothers and sisters and people that you care about are being hurt by a broken immigration system, he with don't care, we're going to double down. i think that's what you're going to see tonight. i think what you're going to see is the further demise of the republican party, they're going to give up, they don't have an exit strategy that allows them to win the white house. that's what you're going to see tonight. >> thank you so much. >> nk that you, michael. let me bring in brad wood house. president of correct the record. and republican strategist for george w. bush. is rove preparing some debate strategy against trump? who is he sending this message t too. >> i think that karl rove is

concerned about trump's position in this race, i think he wants to make sure a more establishment type candidate emerges. karl rove is part of the establishment, he's been part of the establishment, and donald trump is really taking on the establishment of the republican party. so i think karl rove wants to see someone else emerge than donald trump. >> what's your reaction to rove's open ed, do you read it the same way as your colleague? >> i kind of do. >> of course she does. >> i kind of do, i have to tell you, for karl rove to deliver this message is a big mistake. because he really is -- he's activating the conservative base. making them angry and saying, they don't want to hear from karl rove, theyen watt to hear from donald trump, i think he's made a bit of a mistake on that part, hoping that by talking about trump's past positions that it would change how he's

activists are thinking about trump. i have to tell you, i was talking to a woman from michigan, she's never been involved politically, and guess what, she's going to rally for trump on tuesday. so again, it's going to be, i think, for karl rove, it would have been better for him to stay back and let this debate play out, and let the moderators ask the difficult questions about trump's past positions. >> brad, in light of all the brouhaha that's been occasioned by trump's entry here, do you think he'll still show off tonight? >> can you say that again? >> given the brouhaha, do you think trump will steal the show tonight? >> you know what, i actually don't. i think donald trump is going to take an opportunity to come in here, i trust what he said coming into this debate, he's not going to come in had, he's not going to be bombastic, he's not going to attack, i may be wrong about that, i think he's at the top of the polls right now, and it's a pretty good position to show that you do have the capacity to be

presidential, if he does that, it's going to be tough for the others to lay a glove on him. >> i think they have tried that in the past several about trump, you've seen governor bush talk about criticize donald trump. it doesn't work. before you go after donald trump, the more donald trump goes after you, here we have to talk about substance and issues, and i think if the candidates stay above the fray, it's going to be a better debate for all of us to watch. >> if all things being equal, the donald doesn't do his thing, who do you think will come out on top tonight? >> there's a good chance he could come out on top. >> if he's done a little more

stud bying than he's led on. there is going to be a point and it may not be in this debate, it's still early. it's a battle to say what he would do in the middle east, about the economy, and how he would deal with immigration other than some of the hot rhetoric. i think if he's cordial and lays out a little bit of the aagain ta, he'll do well. >> everyone remembers the fireworks from the 2012 debate season, do you think we'll expect a similar kind of show tonight? or have the republican party put out the message, let's be easy on each other and attack the enemy and not ourselves? >> well, i'm hoping that that's a direction that the candidates are going to take. they're not going to have a lot of time to talk about the issues in detail, but i think you're going to see they're going to go back and forth with each other, if one candidate makes a remark about the other one, the other candidate has 30 seconds to respond. that is going to make for good

television. so again, we're going to have to wait and see how the candidates push forward, i think their smart approach is to really say, i can be presidential. and i can beat hillary clinton, those are the two messages that these republican candidates are going to have to share. >> we won't have a lot of, it's huge, it's huge, i'm the donald, i have a bigger plane than you. >> the so-called undercard debate just kicked off. we'll have an update ahead. it's been 50 years since the voting rights has been passed. they're still under attack. how far we haven't come ahead. it's so shiny. i know, mommy, but it's time to let the new kitchen get some sleep. if you want beautiful results, you know where to go - angie's list. now everyone can get highly rated service even without a membership. you can shop special offers or just tell us what you need, and we'll help you find a local company to take care of it. angie's list is there for all your projects,

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cleveland right now. not the also rands, but the people that are running also with the people who made the first debate. being in this debate could be beneficial by being cast out to the second tier, presidential hopefuls like rick perry, rick santorum and carly fiorina. here's what santorum said earlier today. >>. >> it's better to start out in the minors and go to the majors. >> some of the folks on not the main stage are going to end up on the main stage. as we showed up four years ago, going to give it a run. i have no doubt that one or more candidates from the early debate is going to end up in this mix and make a big impact. i believe actually win this race. >> this debate could determine if anyone can vault into the top ten for next month's debate. i'm joined now for our panel, i've been watching what's been happening in the debate so far.

henry fernandez for the center for american progress. gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen. have you started your engines? >> do you know what's going on? what have you heard so far? >> i watched the first few minutes, you know you're in the second tier debate when the arena is empty. it looks like dress rehearsal, i'm not kidding. it was interesting that not one took a shot at hillary clinton yet or president obama. we'll see what happens, i think that santorum makes an interesting point. some candidate want to move. theyen with a the to be demoted. it gives some of them a chance to be seen. we watch it, without any audience cheering at all, it makes you focus on what they're saying. >> henry fernandez who seems to have been the strongest out of the debate so far? >> i would have to say carly

fiorina, i thought she spoke clearly about her experience. she didn't have the deer in in the headlights look that several other candidates have. others have much more electoral experience. really weren't ready for prime time, i thought she really impressed in terms of just ability to command the stage. but again, no policy positions, and no real outreach, no effort to go beyond the kind of talking points we hear pretty consistently from this group of candidates. >> professor peterson, the great philosopher start s athe the bottom now, i'm here, do you think there's a sense that those folks are in the second year debate can really see center stage somehow by making a splash? >> sure, i think certainly for carly fiorina, she did mention hillary clinton in the context

of, she's the only person on this stage that's travelled as much and knows as many heads of state as hillary clinton. no one else on the stage has that kind of access in terms of heads of state. senator graham was the one who looked like he was i adeer in the headlights. governor jindal was forceful in in talking about what his record was and what he's able to do in had the state of louisiana. who can tell at this point in this the election cycle where this is all going to shake out. who knows how many candidates are vying for some kind of vice presidential role, versus trying to make it to the a team. there's a lot left to do. >> or just a job at fox. >> that's a great point, though, dean. can this party go on with this many cooks in the kitchen? >> well, until someone runs out of money, that's what it's about. when you're out of money, you're out of the race, things can switch back quickly. i look back, newt gingrich was at 5%, two months later he was

number one in the polls. mitt romney was up by eight points at this point. maybe the numbers could be a predictor of the future, if you look at the 2012 race, it moves so quickly, back and forth and back and forth. it's early, but it was interesting. >> thank you so much. next, arev rant al sharpton's interview with hillary clinton, where she accuses almost every republican of suppressing the right to vote. small business expert from at&t? yeah, give me a problem and i've got the solution. well, we have 30 years of customer records. our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. my drivers don't have time to fill out forms. tablets. keep them all digital. we're looking to double our deliveries. our fleet apps will find the fastest route. oh, and your boysenberyy apple scones smell about done. ahh, you're good. i like to bake. with at&t get up to $400 dollars

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standing on the stage in the first or the second debate has either actively sought to limit the ride to vote in their state or supported the efforts to limit the right to vote. they were not governors, but were in the congress. i personally think it is so nakedly partisan to try to limit the electorate to try to pick and choose who among our fellow citizens should be encouraged or discouraged from voting, it is part of their electoral strategy. >> we should point out today marks the 50th anniversary of the voting rights act. let me bring in the reverend al sharpton, host of politics nation here on msnbc. i won't be bitter that i put in a request to speak to hillary clinton but the reverend al sharpton, of course, p snagged that interview. good to see you, my friend.

>> is always good to see you. >> she was very specific in saying that she wanted to see a return to opening the process of americans -- >> what jeb bush meant -- >> how we need to have registration open and automatic registration when one gets to be age 18. and if they wanted to opt out fine, if not, they automatically are registered. she talked about how we need to stop the impediments we've seen in over 20 states in the last few years, 14 of which were not going to affect until this election. so we still don't know the impact, but she also cited how yesterday a court in texas ruled that the law that the texas authorities implemented after the decision by the supreme court, shelbey versus holden

decision, had in effect taken out the impact of section 5 of the voting rights act, how it was ruled by the courts yesterday to violate section two of the voting rights act. it was very interesting on this, the actual 50th anniversary to the day of president lyndon johnson signing the act. she very aggressively talked about not only what she would do, if she were to be elected president, but what the republicans had in fact advocated in the positions that they are already in that would undercut and in some ways reverse the voting rights act that we're celebrating today. >> it's an eloquent summary. she's made some striking statements as well recently. on the criminal justice system, what did you hear from her today on criminal justice reform. >> she talked about how we enhave to end mass encarceration, nonviolent offenders that had been given lengthy times that were

unnecessary, and she talked about the need of dealing with police reform. yesterday was the first year anniversary of the police killing of james crawford iii in ohio. on sunday, the first anniversary of the killing of michael brown by policeman in ferguson, missouri. she talked about, clearly the trust between community and police is something that a president is going to have to address and take action on. she talked about, we don't need demilitarization. i think she referred to it as, we need not to go in with war kind of equipment. which we saw in the streets of ferguson a few days from now, would be a year ago. i think she dealt forthrightly with mass encarceration. she dealt forthrightly with the problems of policing. and i might say that her husband who many of us quarrelled with

about some of the criminal justice issues has even said he was wrong. she took a much different position today. and, of course, she has to convince the public that will be her consistent position if she's elected. she took a much different position today than was taken in the '90s, it was a much different atmosphere and much different environment. >> right on the mark, thank you so much for joining us, sir. >> thank you, dr. dyson. >> you can watch more of reverend sharpton's interview tonight at 6:00 p.m. coming up, the daily show says good-bye to jon stewart. we'll bring you some of his greatest hits, stay tuned. s on . but you're armed with a roomy new jansport backpack, a powerful new dell 2-in-1 laptop, and durable new stellar notebooks, so you're walking the halls with varsity level swagger.

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denied the right to vote because of their color. this law will ensure them the right to vote. the wrong is one that no american in his heart can justify. the day on which we signed into law the voting rights act which guaranteed all eligible americans to vote. whatever the color of their skin may be. president obama, who was joined by loretta lynch and congressman john lewis, commemorated the anniversary, but warned the fight against discrimination at the polls continued even today. >> part of the reason we're here today. part of the reason it's so important for us to focus attention on this right is

because in practice, we still have problems. >> they gutted part of the voting rights act several years ago. those voter i.d. laws require voters to show i.d. before casting their ballots. they struck down texas' voter i.d. law. one of the strictest in the country. >> they discriminated against the poor and minorities, since a greater share of them don't have necessary identification. >> joining us now floyd angel, pastor of christ the church. do you think the voting rights act will come up during tonight's debate. it will be a centerpiece of their arguments about america? >> i doubt it very much.

if it does, it will come up the way it usually does with the gop, which is in the context of preventing voter fraud. the gop isn't going to come out right and say we would like to make it difficult for nonwhite people to vote, unless you're talking about the texas gop who had in their platform 2014, the appeal of the era. >> james peterson, in this light of that, they deal with it, except to try to demonize tho those -- freedom man. tell us what you think in regard to this. here's what president obama said today. >> one order of business is for our congress to pass an updated version of the voting rights act. that would correct some of the problems that have arisen. >> do you feel it's a realistic

part on the side of the president. >> there's a lot there, you think about preclearance and what it's supposed to do. you give states a challenge in order to make some of these kinds of changes, there are states where this oversight makes sense, the problem with a simple update of the preclearance form, is that we found that legislatures in these states and certain municipalities, in in certain counties will come up with all kinds of innovations to try to circumvent access to voting. either you're cutting early voting or you have strict voter id laws, they come up in different ways, we need that federal oversight piece, i'm not sure if this is something congress alone can handle or we don't need allen hands on deck. either we're increasing access to the polls, increasing enfranchisement will or we're not.

either moving toward a greater democracy and i think the laws and policies have to reflect that. >> where do you see the voting rights act five or ten years down the road. given the kind of obstacles that have been in place, the voter i.d. laws and the attempts to redistrict the favor of the republican party? >> actually, i don't think we have to go five or ten years down the road. the election in 2016 will be the first time in 50 years that people will go to the polls without the guaranteed protection of the voter rights that we've had. clearly the removal of the teeth of the voting rights act is disproportionately disadvantaging people of color. even in texas, there were found that 600,000 people were impacted by their new voter i.d. laws. we don't have to go very far down the road to see the implications of this. what i suggest the gop consider is that this will not be taken

lightly, and we will not take this lying down. and so even before ferguson was on the map for what happened in the aftermath of the killing of michael brown, jr., we had a large movement in st. louis around the last presidential election. churches came together. merging with the labor union to start a transportation ministry which we took the name from florida, we carried 2800 people just in our small municipality, 2800 extra voters to the polls. if people think that people of color are going to lay down and allow our rights to be stripped from us in this way, they have another thought coming. >> when you think about -- help us understand the mind-set. let's try to be fair here, there are people as dr. blackmon has just indicated who will not lay

down while their rights have been violated. let's assume they're char ita y itably -- they want to tamp down on that. give us the mind-set we're still discussing that 50 years ago. >> it's important to put this erosion of the access to the vote. i think it's important to put that into context of other things that are happening in politics at the moment. so at the same time that you have enormous influxes of big money and increasingly small number of people controlling out electoral outcomes, we're being told what you can still do, small person who doesn't have an enormous amount of money, you can still vote. you have our ability to meaningfully contribute money being eroded and on the other end you have our money to

meaningfully vote being eroded. i find this totally baffling, i find the gap between how important between the municipality is. i just finished explaining why i didn't vote. they were trying to find me because i didn't show up on a saturday to cast my vote. and i had to explain that away so i didn't have to pay a fine. i had to come here to the states where you have to pay to vote, in some senses, it's totally baffling. >> what about that. >> we need weekend voting here. a lot of people have been asking me about this, what's wrong. you need an i.d. to to do this, to do that. for some folks, especially for elderly folks or folks that don't have a lot of means, that i.d. process can translate into a tax. there are other folks who don't trust government as much, they don't want to be in the system, you think that folks on the

right would believe that and support that, at the end of the day we need to be removing barriers to voting. we have to be about that. like the reverend was saying, people are not going to take this sitting down. one thing about commemorating the voting rights act, people are thinking about, what was that all about, what was that process about, why are they trying to take these rights away. why are they trying to disenfranchise folks. >> to ask you an earlier question, if if you believe the vote is the most central part of being an american, you're going to be deeply investing in voter fraud. that's the second part of that argument, there is a negligible amount of disenfranchisement going on. even people who are able to vote don't have access to it. to sympathize with those people, if the vote is sacred to you, you are going to do everything you can to make sure it's

legitimate. >> in light of that analysis. the sake readiness of that voc, link for us the 50th anniversary of the voting rights act and the one year anniversary of michael brown in your neighborhood. how are those two things related to what we saw happening a year ago, when there was almost systemic disenfranchisement of an enormous amount of population there. and the kind of crisis they were confronting in the streets as well. >> you know, i was thinking about that this morning when i was journaling. when i first got up this morning, because ironically, five days before michael brown was killed in ferguson, we had an election. and it was the election that brought out prosecuting attorney up for re-election. there was an african-american woman who was running against the attorney that won. had the turnout been greater

among african-american people i suspect that we would have had a different prosecuting attorney even going into that one case, right? i'm not saying that that would have changed what happened. i don't know. but what i do know is that the appearance of being fair and being balanced in that case would have been different. and perhaps her decisions in that case would have been different. and so it was just a moment to highlight for me the importance of the vote. the vote in every election, if it wasn't so important, then there wouldn't be these great battles to try to take it away or to hinder it. i wanted to speak about that -- >> very briefly. >> just very briefly, because in texas, we saw that it wasn't just that you had had to have an i.d., but you had to have a specific type of i.d., school i.d.'s didn't work. other i.d.s that people had with photos didn't work.

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of evisceration have embedded nothing? >> welcome back. the world bids jon stewart as he signs off from the daily show after 16 years in the chair. more than 10% of people say they get their news from "the daily sho show". the median age of the show's viewers is significantly lower than traditional media programs. stewart leaves behind a legacy of not only laughs but commentary about politics and the media. >> speaking of the final margin in the state of florida. five votes to four votes. >> the war that could destroy global order and cast a region of the sbeerth chaos was discussed as much time as it takes lens crafters to make bifocals. >> is it good? where is osama bin laden? >> i don't know. >> i'll give you mug force one. >> we have done things that some folks don't even know about.

>> what have you done that we don't know about? >> well -- >> are you planning a surprise party for us? >> the living embodyment of everything republicans were trying to exorcise from their party just escalated down on their parade. >> i'm joined by john of tell me everything on sirius xm insight. how appropriate to have both these gentlemen. you wrote about jon stewart's influence. how much did he impact the american conversation, you think, over the last 16 years about so many subjects that are vital to our country? >> i think it is almost unquantifiable. how many people when you think of election coming up would think jon stewart's voice would not be there? we're so used to jon talking about the issues. what is remarkable, when i interviewed him about three years ago for the movie, the muslims are coming, jon was adamant, he doesn't think he moved the needle much on issues.

we on the other side think that he has changed on issues from the first responders, talking about palestinian civilians being killed in gaza. no one had the courage to talk about that. police brutality, iraq war and the list goes on. >> right. people are saying do you think traditional media has had to responsibility to what jon stewart is doing to cover its flanks and to reorganize the logic? >> if you think traditional media hasn't responded to jon stewart, i want to offer you a guest appearance on "cross fire." he got that show canceled by pointing out the problems with the format and people forget before he took over the show, it was weekend update. he brought satire, he brought a social conscience to it and made the show relevant. there's a reason in king lear, the only guy lear trusts is the fool. if there's no truth behind a joke, you won't laugh. if you laugh you know there is

an elementary scho of truth. with a whatever this show did for the 9/11 first responders has to be hailed. the gop was filibustering that bill. and he shamed both the xong the media into they know first responders. >> do you think that jon stewart is letting the 2016 field off the hook? >> he is. and he is leaving on the night of the first debate. we would all tune into jon tonight after the debate to see his take on it or next week when he came back on. i think it is a big loss for us in that conversation. we're going to do our best to fill that void. we're going to try our best. >> all right. what do you think about trevor noah, his successor? does it put a lot more pressure on him? is he able to flesh out his own role? >> he can be a great joke teller, a great truth teller.

i hope he'll be both. we're friends with a lot of the writers there and he is retaining a lot of the staff and it will no doubt be a different show. six months in it will be a different show than when it premiers. i hope audience there's give him a chance. >> tell us what you'll both miss about jon stewart the most? >> i think jon made us smarter while making us laugh. i don't think there's a higher form of comedy. and jon does not think he made a difference? we know he made a difference. tangibly like first responders 2010, and raising awareness. to me that's the first step of activism. i think he energized many young people to get involved in issues that are important. >> what's going on with the debate so far? not to do with jon stewart. what's going on so far that you've seen? >> i just spent the last hour in the green room watching the kids

table debate. you know, honestly, it is a bunch of guys who keep saying we have to cut spending and send more troops to war at the same time. so what you've got is another case of, king donald at the trickle down table and everybody wants to do what george w. bush did but call it something different. i think you'll see rick perry and carly fiorina going beyond the kids table debate. >> what about george pataki? >> apparently george pataki, the form he governor of new york, is calling for surveillance of muslims. i don't know if he cares about evidence. if you're a muslim, i'm going to spy out. he can't say he's in favor of racial profiling. >> he wants to spy on mosques and cut spending. >> at the same time. >> 30 seconds. who will win? >> what? >> the debate tonight. >> fox news. >> fox news is going to win. >> later on. >> i think donald trump will be interesting. i think it has been so over himd. it might be like a super bowl.

that was it? >> trump will play it very presidential and he won't go for the jugular. >> we'll see. msnbc's special jon stewart has left the building airs tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. tonight, a special edition of "politics nation." fight night in the gop. one debate ended moments ago. the big one is yet to come. we'll go live to cleveland. plus, my interview with hillary clinton. she talks about voting, race, the gop, and whether she'll watch the debate. also, i'll talk live to her top challenger. senator bernie sanders about what progressives want to see in this