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colleague kathy lee and the entire family. michael eric dyson picks up our live coverage next. i'm michael eric dyson. tonight ferguson on edge. a state of emergency is declared amid new reports today of arrests. after a night of peaceful protests are interrupted by gunfire on the first anniversary of the death of michael brown. plus no apologies. donald trump refuses to back down from his controversial comments about megyn kelly. and up staged again. black lives matter activists interrupt bernie sanders at his own event in seattle. but first breaking news out of ferguson, missouri. the st. louis county executive declared a state of emergency this afternoon in response to what he calls potential to harm for persons and property. marches continue throughout the day after a night of unrest marred peaceful protests and
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demonstrations. more than 50 protesters were arrested this afternoon in st. louis. crowds gathered at the u.s. courthouse and staged a sit-in and chanded d.o.j. do your job. sunday marked one year to the day brown was shot and killed by a police officer. according to police chief john belmar, a gunman opened fire on police officers sunday evening. officers returned fire and pursued him. according to police, the people involved in sunday's violence were not protesters. sunday's events began with moment of silence to remember the four and a half hours that michael brown's body was left on the street after being shot and killed. the commemorative day ended in grim violence. nbc has the story.
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>> emotions are high in ferguson as hundreds of marchers took to the streets. today's peaceful march was in contrast to the violence that erupted here sunday night. as many as 50 rounds fired a year to the day after michael brown was shot and killed by a police officer in ferguson. when the gunfire ended one man was shot and critically injured by plain clothed police officers who returned fire after the suspect fired on them. >> there were four officers in that van. all four fired at the suspect and the suspect fell there. >> police say the officer involved shooting happened after a barrage of gunfire happened in the streets sending people and media scrambling for cover. >> we can't sustain this as the community as we move forward. we have other individuals out there who are armed right now. they are part of this group. we need the public's help. we can't do it by ourselves. >> store owners along one of ferguson's busiest streets are
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once again cleaning up damage caused by looters. responding officers said they were hit with bricks and bottles. >> i feel sad about this whole situation. it is time to stop the violence now. >> among the buildings damaged a family services resource center. >> people are still raw and there is a lot oaf strong emotions about it. >> a community still struggling to heal and rebuild one year after ferguson was torn apart. >> joining me now from st. louis is msnbc tremaine lee. tremaine, describe the scene at the demonstration today. >> the scene was in stark contrast to last night. today wassen act of civil disobedience. it was very orderly. emotions were charged up. they were energetic. but it was in quite again stark contrast to last night. it was very orderly.
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even police were relatively relaxed until it was time to move in and arrest those who had been proclaiming all week that they were going to fill the jails and their intent was to continue to push for just skpis do it in an orderly matter but come out in mass and get arrested. a number of those folks determined to get arrested did get arrested. but there were still about 100 or so other active protesters on the other side of the barricade chanting black lives matter. and the other chants are still ringing from a year ago. and with a state of emergency in place, with emotions charged and raw, with what we saw last night, what will tonight bring? and it is always the question here in ferguson. a ten use togetherness that seems so easily torn apart. especially by violence. the whole thing was sparked by violence and every act of violence, whether police initiate order otherwise threatens the peace, the calm
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and the hard work of people for the last year. >> speaking of that violence, what is the latest on the shooting investigation there in ferguson? >> the young man, tyrone harris, 18, who is still critically wounded in the hospital. they recovered the 9 millimeter handgun they stay was stolen recently in recent years. but the chief last night said there were upwards of six different individuals who may have been engaged in gunfire between each other. and this young man was part of that. and at least this morning in this press conference he said they had no idea who the individuals were. where they are. the chief asked for help from the community. e said it is simply untenable. police can't do it on their own. the other part was the scene. there were so many people out last night. young people, older people. some families. so when this gunfire erupted everyone was scattering. and again it was about 11:15. 11:20. it was dark. so it took police an extremely long time just to lock down the
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perimeter, lock down the crime scene. so those folks kind of just vanished into the shadows. >> what are the residents in the community saying? are they tired of what they see as extraneous matters interfering with legitimate expressions of protest there. >> and talking to a bunch of folks today at the march there is a mix of sadness. you know, there's been violence, frustration that every single step forward is met with a step back and still anger. and some others say the police involved in the shooting were plain clothes. they were unmarked vehicle. did the individual know they were police. whether he legally had the gun or not. and then again the optic, the visuals of tear gas and the military weaponry we saw last year. last night in canfield, the apartment complex where michael brown was killed, belmar said there wasn't tear gas released but smoke. and there was some projectiles
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allegedly fired by officer ots residents. so a year later as so many people are trumpeting change in the court system, change in the hearts and minds, you know, the kind of movement spread from this community out into to west floorsen and other communities and parts of the country forcing those to talk to be the the relevance of the black lives matter. all the change is undermined. and so folks are, you know, disappointed again. chief belmar said last night, those folks involved in the shooting they weren't protester, they weral krs. >> thank you so much. i want to bring in dr. james peterson. and reverend tracie blackmon. reverend blackmon you were in the crowds today. give us a sense of the mood and the moment there and what protesters are really asking for. >> well thank you for having me on again. the mood today was very determined. very focused.
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and it was led by clergy. it was a protest that we had scheduled for several days leading up to this weekend. and it was our way of making a statement about the fact that even though a lot of conversation has been sparked in this region, that a lot of change has not come yet. and to let the doj know that this is not just a regional issue but it is a national issue. that we are concerned about the number of our children that are being gunned down unarmed by law enforcement. we are concerned about the criminalization of our youth by media and law enforcement. and we as clergy consider this an issue of justice. and we stand with our youth in combatting this categorization of our people. >> dr. peterson, ferguson police
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received criticism for using plain clothes officers at demonstrations. do you think the police force should have kept it all officers in uniform so they can approximate readily identified and not create any doubt in the minds of the citizens as to who they are dealing with? >> that is the only thick that would make sense to me in this situation. tremaine lee spoke about the optics of these demonstrations and when law enforcement is out there in riot gear with the militarized show of force that already presents a certain level of tension, i'm not exactly sure why you need plain clothes police officers or undercover officers or unmarked cars in a situation that is already tense and volatile and energized by those great activists on the ground, including our colleague here the reverend, who are trying to do the work. so again, from law enforcement's perspective, you have to just have a sort of comprehensive acknowledgment of what the doj report said about law
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enforcement in ferguson, which is that it's been corrupt. its leveraged its power to sort of terrorize people. and that kind of community, given that we're on this anniversary and activism and working hard for over 360 days to bring light to this issue, i think law enforcement has to do everything it possibly can do to defuse, deescalate the situation. when you are asking the community to help, they want help to find the other shooters. the community is also asking law enforcement to help to make sure the ways in which they police demonstrations do not add or exacerbate the challenges the community is facing. >> tremaine is the community seeing this shooting as a set back in the struggle for responsible policing? because you kit eindicated earlier one step forward, a step back. but if the overall optics are also about the fact that people with can have organized peaceful protest, then it puts more moral pressure on police departments
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that don't seem to have a legitimate response by saying look, there are people out here shooting and we've got to get back at hem. >> the real concern after the announcement was that there was going to be the state of emergency was that that shooting may have given license now for the police to come and even more heavy-handed manner than last night or in the past. so that is the concern that the actors involved in the protest culture, aren't protesters but they are going to be out there. those folks out there who don't have the tools the capacity the wherewithal or the real desire for the kind of change that organizers are pushing for, that their actions and the interactions with police and the police interaction with them again will give them license. you saw last night there was business owners t at least in the one case of the liquor store standing out with a shotgun and his partner with a pistol tucked in his waistband preparing. and you had the police saying there were upwards of six
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individuals in some sort of gun battle in the middle of the crowd and another individual who flee, turns and fires on police. so now with a state of emergency, with the county police taking over the policing tonight at least, you know, what does that mean? does that mean that there will be the militarized force? will there be more tear gas? not to be confused. chief belmar is kind of pulling the strings here anyway. the interim police chief at ferguson has only been here a few weeks and belmar is the guy on the ground here. and he actually brought up a point that mr. peterson mentioned about being in plain clothes. he said it is because they knew there were some folks in the crowd that were armed. they identified them earlier and more them at least it was a opportunity to kind of track and follow them. but one of the concerns that a number of people said today, is again, who is hopping out of this car? it was an unmarked car. belmar said there were lights on inside the vehicle. now at this point they would say we don't have any proof lights
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were turned on. belmar would say we made ourselves known. as the state of confusion here. folks are frustrated. there is outpouring of anger and grief while they were trying to have this peaceful weekend. while all accounts until the shooting it had been as such. but as always the case in ferguson it is always hanging by a string. we'll see what goes down tonight. >> reverend blackmon, what is your greatest concern now a year later as we confront the issues still unrevolved. conversation apleasanty. what is your greatest set of concerns there a year later? >> my great ers concerns remain what they were 365 days ago. dr. dyson i have just left the department of justice to come here and speak with you all. and even in the two hours that we were standing chanting and those who were arrested got arrested, i had five mothers
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come up to me. none of them even from st. louis, who had traveled here from various places in this nation because their children have been killed while unarmed and they were killed by law enforcement. and all of those mothers came up to me to say thank you for what you are doing. thank you for speaking out for our children. it breaks my heart that we have in this nation this divide that seems to criminalize some children unnecessarily and undeservedly. and my great concern -- my great concern is for our children in this nation. >> all right. tremaine lee, dr. james peterson and reverend blackmon thank you for your time tonight. still to come bernie sanders gets record crowds and a prominent group shares the spotlight.
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a fatal shooting in arlington texas has the nation questioning unnecessary force by police yet again. 19-year-old christian taylor was shot and killed early friday morning after crashing a car through the window of a buick dealership. taylor was a college football player and unarmed during the incident. surveillance video shows taylor climbing on cars and ripping a window. it does not show the fatal encounter. the arlington police department says officer brad miller shot four rounds after a confrontation. miller graduated in march and was being supervised by a training officer. he's since been put on paid leave.
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it was a big weekend for vermont senator bernie sanders. on saturday he was confronted by protesters claiming to be from the black lives matter movement. protesters stormed the stage during a rally in seattle. they took over the microphone and forced the senator to leave without speaking. he had this to say in reaction. >> i think it's unfortunate. because among other things -- among other things, i wanted to talk about the issue of black lives. of the fact that the american people are tired of seeing unarmed african americans shot and killed. but there are other issues as well that we have to talk about. >> sanders didn't let saturday's interruption stop his momentum. on sunday he set a record for the largest number of supporters at the political event in the 2016 race. 28,000 supporters attended his
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rally in portland, oregon. i'm joined by -- brother ross, you were on stage at the seattle rally. what is your reaction to saturday's event? >> thank you, professor. i was actually not a speaker. i was a supporter of both senator sanders as well as the focus who were there on behalf of the black lives matter, crew. i was -- my reaction was that from the native community we absolutely understand the energy and the fwrugs and the sense of urgency that happens within the black lives matter movement. in fact as native people. native people are, you know -- police kill us at a higher rate than any other ethnicity in the
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country. we also have one of the the highest incarceration rates. lowest life expectancy. three in five native women are victims of the sexual assaults and known is having that conversation or alternatively nobody is including us. so i understand that sense of urgency and i commend the young ladies on bringing it to the forefront. my only consternation or question is that i'm not sure that senator sanders was the -- you know, was the best recipient of thatle lesson. because he has tended to be on the right side of the history. and moreover culturallily, native people, we tent to reveal our elders. and bernie sanders, because of his world view and progressive stance he's certainly an elder i respect and i certainly believe he deserved a little deference. >> no doubt. activists have been asking progressive likes bernie sanders and martin o'malley to take up the issue at recent events.
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do you think sanlds sanders handled this event well? >> yeah i think not only the event but if you check out bernie sanders.com you see a list of priorities in terms of why black lives do matter and what we need to do about criminal justice in our nation. so bernie supports an end to mandatory sentences for non violent crimes, supports community policing, supports body cameras. and i could go on and on about this. and i think most encouraging, as you mentioned is last night for example in portland, we saw an array of people coming together, talking about black lives matter. environmental justice. this was a sea kayaker from green peace who stopped the shell ice breaker for four hours sitting in the water there with 100 other kayakers. young immigration activists talk about what happens to our
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families and i think the promise of this campaign and why i'm excited is we bring folks together in a knew populism that includes all of these issues at the same time on parallel tracks. >> certainly. gya gyasi, do you think you can give us a bit of historical understanding of the fact that the frustration that you have always referred to here as legitimate is something that even many white progressives however have not completely kprented. and i think the subordination of race or ethnicity to class has been a concern although bernie sanders certainly has admirably responded in recognizing that. but give a sense of the background there that progressives have not always understood the specificity of the ethnic and racial formation of inequality that has been expressed. >> yeah. well, you know, one of the things professor kimberly crenshaw writes. she speaks about intersectionalty. we have to speak the language of
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class and economics but there is also a special type of ostracizing and vulnerability that happens when you are a member of certain vulnerable races. certain vulnerable genders. a woman. the trans gender discussion recently. with native people, historically we're not even invited with these conversations. there is a conversation happening in our house, at you are a tanl. and we're not even allowed to have a conversation with the folks having that conversation and that has a lot to do with race. and specifically with these young ladies, the frustration of being a young black person, who has decidedly different concerns than older generation black folks, who even civil rights generation black folks, who are progressives but there is a young voice that need to be had. and these young ladies occupied that space. and once again i think there is a bit of confusion or question regarding bernie sanders specifically and him being the recipient of this sort of movement. but at the same time, their
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frustration is absolutely coming from the commendable and brave space and i think it is a necessary conversation. >> larry, hillary clinton is in new hampshire today. she holds about the six point lead oaf eover bernie sanders. what do you think bernie has to do to overcome those numbers? >> i think it is an organizing challenge from our point of view. we're not in the race for money in the same way that secretary clinton and others are. but we are in the organizing race. several million people have already volunteered and the way we will approach new hampshire and iowa and the states after it is to build this base and activation this new populism and connect issues that are parallel issues whether it's racial justice or organizing rights or immigration rights. and i think you will see that whether it is a state like new hampshire or whether it is a state like south carolina. >> gyasi ross and larry cohen. thank you for joining us. donald trump is demanding an
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hillary clinton is in new hampshire today. she addressed a big ticket item, tackling crippling college debt. her campaign released this ad earlier today. >> i believe our success isn't measured by how much the wealthiest americans had but by how many young people go to college without drowning this debt. i want to make college affordable. higher education should be a right, not a privilege for those who can afford it. >> clinton chose this town hall
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meeting to unveil the plan. since it is the state with the highe esest average student deb the country. two year community colleges free. and cut student loan interest rates. student loan debt has topped 1 trillion dollars. aimed on expanding investments in higher education and cutting student cost. the plan is estimated to cost 350 billion dollars over ten years. i'm joined by adam green, co-founders of the progressive green change campaign committee. when it comes to this plan it seems pretty elaborate and specific but give us the internal details. >> this has been a much anticipated speech. and we've been saying for months the devil will be in the details. the details are in, they are big, they are great. and the bottom line is that
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millions of americans will now have access to debt free college who otherwise wouldn't have if this passes into law. >> right. >> basically it gives a lot of aid to the states to allow them to bring down the cost of tuition at public universities. more aid to low income and middle class people to assist with tuition costs. and the net effect is that millions of people who otherwise might not go to college or would leave with debt can now graduate debt free and that is phenomenal. >> that is great news. wish it would have come along a little earlier when i was in school. bernie sanders released his own plan. the 70 billion dollar annual propose would be imposing a tax on transactions by hedge funds. sure something wall street loved. does clinton's plan hold up in comparison in terms of a source of revenue? >> yeah. they both tax the rich and
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corporations and that is a great way to pay for it. one thing that was really notable today was hillary clinton actually credited progressive activists with making debt free college a center piece of the national agenda. what's beautiful about hillary clinton and martin o mall and bernie sanders all coming out is he have a race to the top. we've really shifted the debate. to having a race to figure how can we really make college debt free for millions of students? and what that means is that the next google co-founder can graduate college and not have to sideline their dreams to take an office job and try to pay down their debt. somebody who wants to buy a house can graduate and buy a house. people's life decisions don't have to be impacted and saddled because of debt. that is fantastic. and this is the biggest invest she has proposed so far. so this is not lip service. this is a real commitment to making college debt free.
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>> right. so she holds, that is hillary clinton, about a 6 point lead over bernie sanders in new hampshire. do you think her college debt plan will help her keep the lead there? obviously if you are reducing the debt of hundreds of millions of dollars for citizens, that's got to be pretty attractive. >> it is. the progressive change institute organization did a poll in january. and found likely voters, republicans, democrats and independents by 71% to 19% voters want debt free college. and on many issues that were polled the number one issue to democrats who didn't show up in 2014 that made them say they would have showed up was debt free college. so if hillary clinton and bernie sanders are in a competition to see who can be better, that is a win-win for everybody. >> not bad at at all. clinton took a minute to comment
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on donald trump's comments. >> certainly think that it deserves the kind of reaction that it is getting from so many others. but i think if we focus on that we're making a mistake. what a lot of the men on that stage and that debate said was offensive. the republicans are putting forth some very radical and offensive positions when it comes to women's live, women's reproductive health, women's employment, women's opportunity. so i think we'll let the republicans, you know, go back and forth with each other. but i want to point out there is really not that much difference in the policies that they are proposing when it comes to american women. >> we got a couple of seconds. what is your reaction to that. >> absolutely. i mean, that republican debate was riddled with misogyny. and people's failure to call at donald trump, what he was saying
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welcome back. donald trump has created his share of bad blood so far. he offended latino voters with his campaign announcement. he took on senator john mccain's war hero status. and trump has no problem sparring with other candidates often by revealing personal information about them. but the tough talk isn't hurting him in the polls. a now reuters ipsos poll puts trump well ahead at 24%, double his closest competitor jeb bush. now his sights are on fox news. donald is still sore over his interaction with megyn kelly. on friday he critiqued kelly's performance as debate moderator. >> she gets out and starts asking me all sorts of
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ridiculous questions. and, you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her wherever. >> those comments sparked backlash from conservatives but in true trump fashion he isn't backing down. in fact he says he's the one's >> she should be apologizing to me, to tell you the truth. >> it seems the network heads have gotten the message. roger als just called. he's a great guy and assures me that donald trump will be treated fairly on fox news. his word is always good. . we're now joined by our panel. professor peterson, what you do
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make of donald trump's attacking fox news? >> i feel like part of his strategy right now is to attack first and kind of ask questions later. because if you think about the folks that he's speaking to, which are the people who are kind of his base right now, a lot of these are male voters. a lot of them are not college educated. and so he's speaking to a very particular demographic here in the u.s. a demographic that responds extremely well to anything that is anti media. even anti fox media. and a demographic that responds to the puffed up version of the masculinity politics that donald trump is really selling right now. the kind of i make a lot of money. i'm a man. i can say what i want to say. i don't have to apologize for anything. has a certain appeal with a swath of voters that are actually kind of overrepresented in folks who are polling for him right now. >> it looks like donald will be leaving forward as heef been
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doing. he'll be doing the rounds for the next few weeks on fox, or at least the next few days. do you think they have patched things up? >> well i don't know. it will be very interesting to see what questions he gets asked when he gets on. and look, hillary clinton was right in the earlier segment in this program. and megyn kelly can take care of herself. the real problem with the republican party is they are in the process of being trumped. they are antiwoman across the board. you have a situation where bush gets up and says we spend too much on women's health. rub owe and walker say they are antichoice and they don't favor exceptions for rape, incest and danger to the life of the woman. and on immigration, he may be the most flo rid. but he's driven you were eeverybody that field.
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. >> does he have a point? was he given a chance to discuss public policy at all? >> that is laughable. because where his policy statements or policy issues, irrespective of being on the stage of the first fox debate. if he has something to say, he has plenty of space on his website and plenty of opportunities of all the hundreds if not thousands of media interventions he's been allowed to have to tell us what his ideas are. all i've heard him say is i'm going bring back jobs. i haven't heard any specifics or seen anything on his website or anything he's written so far. so i'm not sure why he needs a fox news moderate tore give him an opportunity to talk about policy issues. >> an nbc news monkey survey found more than half of trumps
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supporters said he would vote if he lost the nomination and ran as an independent. is trump a bigger problem as their nominee or their opponent? >> we would lose as the mom yee and if he ran as the third party candidate they would have no chance to win the election. trump is big problem for the party across the board. every time the republican establishment writes him off you get another poll or roiter poll or nbc that says this guy is leading the race. he does appeal to that kind of segment we were talking about a few minutes ago. and those people aren't leaving him over some of these incidents. still do to come. get ready for a lot more football coverage on twitter. us? smash it with jublia! jublia is a prescription medicine proven to treat toenail fungus. use jublia as instructed by your doctor.
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social media giant twitter is in need of a big win. their stock price is down 22% this year and they are still scouting for a ceo after dick costello stepped down in june. but their new deal with the nfl may be the touchdown they need. starting this season you will see more football highlights on your twitter feed than ever before. clips from games still happening and behind the scenes footage. according to re/code it is the first partnership twitter has entered into with a large media company. twitter shares jumped 9% since the announcement and cnbc's jim cramer reacted optimistically this morning. >> there are a lot of reasons to own twitter that have to do with what could possibly go right. and any time you are affiliated with the nfl it tends to go
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right. >> looking good these days. here is why this deal matters. it could lead to more content distributed through social media and a much different consumer experience as well. as notes, watching sports with twitter feed open is beincome a sports bar with the entire country except the people on twitter are much funnier. a shocking level of domestic violence and a billion dollars sports industry and owners doing little to stop it. we'll talk to a journalist behind the study, next.
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welcome back. as the nfl preseason kicks off, one former star hopes to make a come back. ray price is looking to get back on the field after he was cut from the ravins last september. ray rice was that is following allegations of come mess the tick violence against his fiancee. ray rice says he's rehabilitated a as man. a new jersey judge dropped charges after he completed the counseling program. rice was one of several football players last season who dealt with allegations of domestic abuse. football isn't the only professional sport dealing with violence outside of the game. hbo's "real sports" looks at the trend of domestic violence among competitors. real sports found the rate of domestic violence arrests among mma fighters is more than double the rate for men ages 18 through 39 and more than three times of nfl players and the show highlighted a lack of thorough background checks for fighters.
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one of the most notable instances involving an mma fighter is the brutal beating of adult star christi mac at the hands of her boyfriend jonathan known as war machine. war machine had a record of violence and served jail time for felon assault before he was signed by mma promoter. we want to warn you, this clip may be disturbing for some viewers. >> last august, police received this emergency call from her home. >> war machine turned his mma skills on her. >> you can be heard screaming desperately. >> yes. >> for john to stop. is he hearing you? >> he's just red zone. there was no stopping him. i knew there was no stopping him. >> you thought he was going to kill you right there? >> i did. >> the this was the result.
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>> war machine is awaiting trial on several charges including attempted morer. he pleaded not guilty to all charges. i'm joined by david scott, correspondent for real sports with brian who worked on the story about domestic violence in mma. david, were you surprised by how lax the mma background checks were to determine, you know, who could be let in and who could not be by a simple check of what they have done in the past? >> it is surprising. i think you have to say that mma has not had 100 years to evolve on social policy like other established sports. it has so far flown under the radar but now it's arrived in the main stream and legal and every state except for new york, a lot of people think that will change soon and with main stream comes responsibility. so it looks like they are starting to wake up for this, let's hope they are. >> has there been push back from sponsors or activism to mma
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organizations raising standards when it comes to hiring fighters because your piece pours a powerful light on to some practices that go on there. >> you know, i think for a long time, in their bubble, in the bubble of the mma world, there are bloggers, mma reporter that raised these questions. the problem is it hasn't really gone, really hasn't gotten attention outside of that bubble and so hopefully that is changing. we've been talking about domestic violence in sports for a long time. one sport has been absent from the conversation. it happens to be the most violent sport. so let's hope that that will change now. >> certainly. so a marshall artist demonstrated on you what it's like to be choked by one of these fighters. can you tell us about how that felt? you're an awful brave man. i've known you since our days at princeton and you were always fit but that has to be terrible. >> this is the thing in my mind distinguishes domestic violence
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in the mma context. these guys are essentially trained to kill. more so than boxing, far more violent than football or anything else. i mean, if you watch what they do and the level of training that they have in joint locks and neck restraints and choke hold, not many men have the kind of arsenal of tools that they can deploy against their victims. so in this case, the choke hold has become a nagging issue in domestic violence law. and these guys are experts in it. they know exactly how to render their victim unconscious within seconds without leaving any evidence but for a confused victim and to the extent that a lot of cases come down to he said, she said, you can imagine the difficulty in prosecuting a case on a victim that can hardly remember what happened. >> some people are violent towards their partners, hit them on the hair so there will be no noticeable bruises, this is the
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parallel to that by choking them out, there are no marks left that can determine an offense or injury imposed. >> to an extreme and consider the psychological impact on the domestic violence. if she screams, yells, tries to get help, her partner can simply choke her out. >> wow. so ray rice, we got about 30 seconds left. ray rice inspired the nfl to look at the internal practices. has mma done anything to try to scrutinize its practices? >> say they have zero tolerance policies which is probably the right direction. they have not figured out how to successfully enforce those policies and so we in addition to the other parts of our reporting, we found a number of exceptions of fighters who post conviction were allowed to fight again and that's the kind of thing that raises questions. >> yeah, no doubt. thank you for an excellent report, my friend. >> appreciate it.
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>> david scott, thank you. i'm michael eric dyson. "politics nation" with the reverend al sharpton starts right now. to. tonight on "politics nation," hillary clinton slams donald trump's outrageous comments about women and calls out the rest of the gop field, too. also, the fbi will help investigate the police shooting of an unarmed teenager in texas. and rand paul blames inequality on some people working harder than others. welcome to "politics nation." we begin tonight with hillary clinton weighing in on the latest donald trump controversy. his comments that many believe suggested fox anchor megyn kelly asked him questions, tough questions at that because she was
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