and an nfl quarterback sidelined for the start of the season after a locker room brawl. we're talking a sucker punch and a broken jaw. our top story, though, this hour the clock ticking on congress just 37 days left to vote on that highly controversial nuclear deal with eiran. and here's the kicker, they're in time-out for 29 of those days. now notice the scheduled august break. notice when they come back. notice that leaves only eight working days before the deadline. that's why a select group of democrats are spending the next few weeks whipping up support while some republicans move to block it. chuck schumer one of the most influential on that topic opposes the deal. he wants negotiators to go back to the drawing board. >> neither situation is hardly clear cut, agreement or no agreement. the alternative is not war. i'd be very much opposed to war. it is to go back to the bargaining table and come to a

better agreement. i believe we have a better option with no agreement because i think we can, if we work at it, it's difficult -- diplomacy is difficult -- but get the allies back to the table. >> he's positive the attitude toward the deal will shift even if it takes time. listen. >> when this agreement is impleme implemented and we've seen centrifuges coming out of facilities and we've got inspectors on the ground and it becomes clear that iran, in fact, is abiding by this agreement, then attitudes will change. in that scenario it will probably be forgotten that the republicans uniformly opposed it. >> all right, let's bring in former ambassador to morocco mark ginsburg. he was an adviser to president

carter as well. thanks for being here. let's start first off with what chuck schumer is suggest. let's go back to the table. a better deal can be made. is that practical? >> in some respects i completely empathize with senator schumer's position because there are many problems with the agreement no matter what the president says. however, i just came from europe. it is quite clear that our allies, the british, the french and the germans are unprepped to go back to the table. whether or not the united states is forced to try to convince them which secretary kerry is unwilling to do likely remains to be seen. however, with that said, there's enough agony within congress where the president cannot dismiss his critics on this deal. there are legitimate concerns and the fact that he is merely trying to dismiss these critics is inappropriate because there are reasons to question the wisdom of some of the provisions of the deal. >> as he tries to address the critics, also the allies he has to address, what we agreed on, we're going to follow through

with in trying to assuage the concerns from the allies themselves he said this. take a listen. >> i'm telling you that we are confident that with inspectors, with all the bells and whistles we put in place here, we are going to know what they are doing and that is why we say israel, all of the gulf states, everybody in the region, we, the united states who have our own security concerns, are safer with this deal than without it. >> all right. he's saying with all the bells in place. will all the bells be in place, though? >> let's put it this way, richard. the fact of the matter secretary kerry is engaged in a great deal of hyperbole on the deal. the president, for example, said there will never be an iran with a nuclear weapon. that's not true. we know that's not accurate. number two, secretary kerry has said we will know if there are military sites that the iranians are hiding. that's not true. however, with that said, as far

as an agreement is concerned, it's about as good as you're going to get. it sort of gets a c-minus to a d-plus. >> you are saying that's not that good but i guess it's better than an "f." secretary kerry also saying there are some economic -- there could be economic fallout if the deal does not come through. more hyperbole? >> i heard what the secretary of state said in a session today that the dollar, the value of the dollar, could be undermined in the event this deal doesn't go through. my advice to secretary kerry is to understand the following. there are legitimate concerns many members of congress have not so much about every aspect of the deal itself but the regional problems that this deal creates for our allies particularly israel. there is no containment policy that the secretary of state or the president has put in place to make it easier for members of congress who are deeply concerned about the consequences of this deal to israel and our arab allies.

that's the problem with this deal. the president can make a legitimate argument it can stand on its own. it's the failure of a containment policy against iran that most of these members of congress are concerned about. >> so is secretary kerry, is the white house moving to more extreme statements, calling hyperbole to answer hyperbole because they're getting hyperbole from the critics? >> i think this is why the problem is really almost a bipartisan failure of communication. there are legitimate issues that can be, in effect, placed into the agreement or help make this agreement more palatable to members of congress. i don't know if our viewers understand, there's absolutely no formal agreement between israel and the united states with respect to its defense. we provide security. we provide intelligence. the president has done a very good job providing military and intelligence support for israel, but there's nothing that binds the united states and israel in the event of an iranian threat. if the administration had put something on the table that

would have assuaged the concerns of senator schumer and others, it may make it easier for democratic members to support the deal. >> all right, thank you, ambassador ginsburg, thanks again as always. let's turn to peter welt, a defense subcommittee member who supports this deal. congressman, thanks for being here. as you know, as the chief deputy whip in the white house, in the house, rather -- i'm already promoting you to places and titles that do not exist -- what does opposition by the likes of senator schumer as the ambassador and i were talking about add to that at least nine house democrats that are now saying, hey, they don't want this to get done. what does that mean to you as you try to push this forward? >> well, i take the concerns of the ambassador expressed and some of my colleagues have he can pressed including senator schumer very strongly. and this is a very scary thing to do because we're negotiating with an adversary.

iran has been a bad actor but, you know, when you put it in context, it's the bad actors you have to negotiate with and there is some risk involved. kennedy did it with the soviets at the height of the cold war. nixon did it in china. the bottom line for me do we have in this agreement something that makes us more secure or less secure. two things that were really relevant, one, are these inspections rigid? i believe they are. they're not perfect but they're really strong, very solid and, number two, can we snap back sanctions in a reasonable way in the event of a violation and the answer to that is yes. so the question for a lot of us is going to be is this a better outcome if we endorse this deal or is it much more risk it we repudiate it particularly when there's a very high likelihood we lose the support of allies? >> congressman, what do you say to your fellow democrat, leading democrat in the senate here, and chuck schumer says go back to the table. go get a better deal.

what do you tell him? >> well, it's not realistic. it's this deal or no deal. that's in part because the administration, the president, really, has to negotiate this. congress, 535 of us, can't. we can come to the conclusion as senator schumer did, that we'd rather vote no or the conclusion i came to that we'd rather vote yes. if we reject the deal, i think all of us have to accept the consequence consequences were flying off into the wild blue yonder taking an enormous amount of risk. bottom line this is going to set back any nuclear program in iran by 10-15 years. a lot of the critics including, i think, senator schumer said 10-15 years is too soon. well, i agree but, of course, iran is pledging in this as a member of iaea that they won't have a nuclear weapon, number one. number two, more importantly, the president, whoever that may be in 10 or 15 years, reserves all options, military options

included. so we've got to be vigilant on this particularly those of us, and this is where i agree with ambassador ginsberg to make sure it's followed. >> this is a big deal, the president as well saying this is like the iraq vote. but, again, he is away on a two-week vacation. you may have heard at the top of our show where we described the number of days left that you have to debate this, eight. that is eight working days out of the entire 37 that remain on the calendar itself. can you get this done? it would seem by the calendar that we don't have enough energy and interest. >> that's not right. i mean, this is when -- i'm really impressed by my colleagues attending the briefings, the classified briefings, the open briefings, the administration has flooded the field. and made themselves totally available. the president opened doors for members of congress, invited them back when we got interrupted by votes and, bottom

line, the politics are going to be enormous on this. a lot of pressure on members. we're going to have to look deep into our soul and come up with what we believe is the best judgment. >> do you think you can get it done in eight days? >> i do. >> thank you so much, congressman. i appreciate your time. peter welsh, thank you for being here. also this hour, what we're watching happening at this moment, tensions flaring again in ferguson. the roots of discontent with policing running much deeper. we're live on the ground. officials now demanding answers about the long-term threat of the toxic spill in a colorado river. and 84 million americans getting a soaking today. we're tracking the radar and all your developing stories this hour. set of wheels, then... wham! a minivan t-bones you. guess what: your insurance company will only give you 37-thousand to replace it. "depreciation" they claim. "how can my car depreciate before it's first oil change?" you ask.

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tyrone harris, the 18-year-old police say disrupted peaceful protests marking the anniversary of michael brown's death, is facing ten counts including assaulting an officer. according to what his father told our st. louis affiliate, he does not trust police accounts of that event. >> from what i'm hearing, he was running for his life, and they opened fire on him. that's what i'm understanding. they haven't come down and talked to mo and said anything. i don't know what's real and what's not. >> that violence occurred sunday. officers encountered another violent night last night though nothing near what we saw end of the weekend. this community is not kidding itself. there's no assurance that the powder keg will not erupt again tonight. ron allen is on the ground.

ron, new today a group called the oath keepers just arriving. how might that affect what's happening there? >> reporter: well, they've been here before, to be true. they were here last year and they've been here a couple of nights. it's a group that says they're here to help citizens protect themselves and defend their rights. the chief of police for st. louis county has called them unnecessary and inflammatory. we were interviewing a member of the -- a little while ago the chief of police in a small town in missouri not far from here. they were walking around armed with automatic weapons, and it was quite a sight to see in a crowd where there's a lot of concern about the potential for violence and confrontations with police. but in this stays you're allowed to carry certain weapons openly even weapons like that which may be shocking to people in other parts of the country, but that's the way it is. the county police said they're consulting with the legal authorities in the county to see if they can in some way adjust

that law or have a different affect particularly since they declared a state of emergency here and perhaps prohibit that weaponry here. it just adds something that the police don't think is necessary. tonight we don't know what's going to happen and that's the big concern here when the sun goes down. things have been peaceful today and relatively calm yesterday compared to, of course, what happened monday night when gunfire erupted. this is a night-to-night thing. some protest organizers tell us that they are going to try to organize. one said he thought it would be much like last night, hundreds of people in the street for several hours until 1:00 in the morning. dozens of people arrested and, of course, yesterday there were dozens of others arrested, blocking a highway, sitting in at a federal courthouse. so some of that might continue tonight. but the bottom line is everyone is hoping that all of this remains peaceful. a lot of people invested a lot in ferguson the past year trying to build bridges, trying to bring this place together,

trying to move forward and a lot of people now worry that all of that is if grave jeopardy if violence erupts here again. richard? >> nbc's ron allen for us live in ferguson, thank you so much, ron. our next guest says american policing not just in ferguson but around the country is in a state of crisis. the title of his new book "blue: the lapd and redeeming american politics" explains what they can learn during its most troubled time. award winning investigative journalist joe dominick is with us now. you heard the report from ron allen describing it as a day-to-day thing. when you look at the developments that have happened over the last ten years, the last year, the last month, what's your reflection? >> well, i think this is the ultimate culmination right now of what we're seeing for the 30 years of the war on crime and the war on drugs which was

directed almost not exclusively but overwhelmingly at poor african-americans and poor people of color. and i think with trayvon martin it started with trayvon martin, black lives matter, and it's now growing at a real pace, and i think african-americans see it as the civil rights issue of the 21st century and i think rightly so. >> your book i was leafing through it earlier. let me ask you the question. is the crisis in policing that you describe, is it a result of management? is it a result of culture? or is it a result of structure? >> well, it's certainly a result of american culture. we are a racist society and ever since the slave laws in the

1850s one of the major functions -- one of the major missions of the police has been to put the fear of god into african-americans, and that has been going on forever. >> so are you saying then here, joe -- because you said we are a racist country. are you saying that police departments are part of that? >> well, of course. absolutely. >> how do you -- >> when i say, again, it was their mission to essentially be racist by particularly focusing on african-american communities. there's a lot of crime in african-american communities. that's another conversation we never have about why there's so much. >> what's the data you have behind that statement? talking about police departments being racist which is what you just said. >> i'm saying their mission has

been inherently racist and that is to keep african-american people in the ghettos, to keep african-american people controlled. and that's why you have so many cops in these neighborhoods and that's why you have techniques like stop and frisk policing in new york city here in 2011, more than 865,000 mainly young black and latino men were stopped by the nypd. >> you're a longtime resident of los angeles. you're very aware of the rodney king riots. we have the advent of smartphone cameras. we have more transparency in terms of what's happening with policing actions. what is the next breakthrough?

>> there's only one solution. number one is to under why there's so much violence. understand it in a real visceral way and knowledgeable way. community policing means the police have legitimacy among the population of the people that they're policing, that they're welcome there, they're accepted there, that they're working with community leaders and grassroots lead e leaders and it means they can start to solve crime which the lapd has this huge backlash because nobody will talk to them. they're very hostile to police and police are hostile to them. >> thank you so much for your time today. again, your book "blue." appreciate it. >> thanks, richard. still ahead an nfl starting quarterback sucker punched by his own teammate. what the team is saying about the locker room brawl there.

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developing right now the feds and local officials touring the site of the toxic sludge in colorado today which has now spread to neighboring states. and in washington this afternoon the head of the epa apologized for the accident which she admits is of the agency's own making. >> i am absolutely deeply sorry that this ever happened, but i want to make sure that we react positively and in a way that's credible and we move this forward. >> nbc's scott cohn is following the developments out of colorado from the west coast. scott, as we watch the developments, it is still early going in the days. is it getting better or worse? >> reporter: it depends, richard, on where you are as this plume moves west and the thinking is that it's still several days if not a week away

from getting into lake powell at which point there's more of an opportunity for some of the sediment to settle out of the water and to work itself out. the early news from some of the testing and toxicity testing, testing with wildlife, is good relatively speaking in that there's no massive die off of wildlife or fish or anything like that but clearly there are issues with using the rivers both for recreation and obviously for drinking purposes and so we still are really in the early going here of this disaster. >> not mentioning the water -- again, the water table as well as the plumes that might exist because of this contamination. scott cohn, thank you so much. we're going to turn now to weather. 84 million of you know what i'm talking about at this moment. perhaps not as a threatening anymore as what you see behind me, but this was the scene in colorado springs monday. cars washing away. no match for the power of all that water. look at them slide.

today the northeast is in mother nature's cross hairs. our friend at wnbc's storm team 4 have been all over that. and here's what we were all seeing in new york, pounding rains, much needed, but clearly not the ideal commute. more is in the forecast this afternoon. weather channel meteorologist alex wilson has the late details for us. hey, alex. hey. well, before we take you to today's forecast, i want to take you back to yesterday and show you the rainfall over the colorado springs area. it was really off to the west where we saw some heavy rain into the higher terrain so keep in mind when you've got really heavy rainfall over that high terrain it funnels into those valleys and that's why we saw that rain just rushing through some of those areas not moving cars and really making the streets look like rivers. here is today's forecast. you are watching for severe weather through all of the big cities in the northeast. we're talking boston, we're talking new york city, we're talking d.c. and richmond even into raleigh, north carolina,

columbia, south carolina, savannah. the timing for new york looks like this. notice it's going to be for the dry, thunderstorms moving through the area. out on long island, during the overnight hours things should settle down for the new york city area. quieter tomorrow morning. and in washington, d.c., your 4:00 drive has showers and thunderstorms in the area. heavy rain between 5:00 and 6:00 will slow things down on the beltway and even into the late evening hours, a few lingering showers. can't rule out a rainfall or two on the south side of town. >> lots of water. the west needs it. alex wilson, thank you. golf not exactly in the forecast on the cape this afternoon, but the president knows the criticism he's continuing to get on the iran nuke deal, that it's par for the course. here's tate. i'd like to know if you believe that this deal can lead to a shift in internal politics and bring about positive reforms

there. and, if so, is this deal going to be at the cost of our relationships with current allies in the middle east? >> this deal is a good deal regardless of whether the character of the regime changes. as long as they're sticking with the deal, we're solving a big problem which is iran not having a nuclear weapon and not triggering a nuclear arms race. >> senior white house correspondent chris jansing is on martha's vineyard with the first family. chris, good day to you. chuck schumer, as you know, the most high-profile senator, to come out against the deal we're talking about. the question might be, okay, what's next for the white house to deal with that? >> reporter: well, richard, if past is prologue, i think we'll see an escalation of this debate and we're already seeing it. you heard the president. he, before he left to come to martha's vineyard, taped a whole series of interviews. that's part of it. now we see other members of the administration sort of stepping up their involvement. john kerry today suggesting for the first time that the u.s.

dollar would take a hit if the u.s. walked away from this deal saying the international community would lose confidence and, in fact, asked reporters to go to the treasury secretary and his folks who are doing, as he put it, a deep dive into what the worldwide monetary implications of such a decision might be. so i think what you're seeing in some ways a shift, a reemphasis from defending the specifics of the deal to actually talking about what they think the dire consequences would be if congress decided that they were going to go against this deal. you also have seen some of former white house staffers, people like david plough and pfeiffer tweeting their criticism of schumer. the white house is not surprised he made the decision he did. what they're not happy about and the reason you're hearing some of those folks criticizing him is they basically wanted him not to announce any negative

decision or what they consider to be a negative decision until closer to the deal so as not to influence other members of congress and the senate in particular, richard. >> on a lighter note, the first family is down there enjoying a vacation. the rain is out. no golfing. are they taking that wheelbarrow behind you and having a little fun? >> reporter: i didn't see the wheelbarrow is back. no. as far as we know the president didn't even leave the compound today. it's been a pretty good downpour for the past couple of hours. i can tell you my spies who were in downtown edgartown, which is not far from where i'm standing, said the first lady went out to lunch today, but other than that, they've been laying pretty low. i think the forecast is increasingly better as the week goes on. how much do you want to get he'll get back out on the golf course? >> i love a good wheelbarrow race. you're right there ready if it does happen. >> reporter: it's a little squishy right now. >> you'll definitely need the

mud room. thank you, chris. another wildfire rages in california. you'll never guess how it may have started. plus trump on the trail. he speaks in just a few hours. will he unleash another political firestorm? we're watching.

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welcome back. and here's what's going on at the moment. jets quarterback geno smith will miss the start of the regular season because of a broken jaw. in a stunning announcement this afternoon head coach todd bowles revealing smith was sucker punched by his own teammate in the locker room brawl. the starting qb is expected to miss six to ten weeks. he posted this photo to instagram vowing, quote, i'll be back. u.s. attorneys in new jersey have uncovered a $30 million criminal operation. computer hackers allegedly obtaining press statements before they're released and using them to make millions on insider trades.

two people of ukrainian origin and two tradeers in georgia are among those being indicted on charges including securities fraud. another wildfire is now raging in california just north of napa valley, northern california. the jerusalem fire has doubled in size since monday and has now spread to 12,000 acres forcing mandatory evacuations for more than 150 residents. authorities are saying a man has been arrested on suspicion of starting a backfire to protect his marijuana growing operation. mm-hmm. and tributes to the great robin williams pouring in on social media today exactly one year after his death. williams was found dead in his home, a suicide at age 63 on august 11, 2014. tv daughter sarah michelle geller instagramed this photo of the boston park bench where williams filmed an iconic scene from "goodwill hunting" along with a touching caption which read in part, to know that one life has breathed easier because you lived here, this is to have

succeeded. you succeeded, r.w. he certainly did. donald trump making his first return to fox news since his controversial comments about debate moderator and anchor megyn kelly. >> donald, good morning to you. glad you're back with us and glad we're friends again. >> well, we are friends, steve. we've always been friends. it's great to be back with you. i'm going to keep the door open. i want to run as a republican. i'm leading in every poll. one poll came out yesterday. i'm at 32% nationally and that's what i want to do. i want to run as a republican. i want to keep the door open. >> megyn kelly also responded to the debate controversy for the first time. >> so trump did interviews over the weekend that attacked me personally. i've decided not to respond. trump, who is the front-runner, will not apologize. and i certainly will not apologize for doing good journalism, so i'll continue doing my job without fear or favor. >> let's go to a new reuters poll that shows trump's numbers

have not budged since the debate as well. he still leads by double digits but there can be lag in those numbers like with trump's former top adviser roger stone. he was on the "today" show this morning days after his departure from trump's campaign. >> i did quit. fortunately i consulted five of my colleagues and shared my letter in advance, told in advance. they confirmed that for both "the new york times" and politico that i, in fact, resigned. i went rogue to lay out a path to get back to the big picture issues in which trump has some very specific ideas and lay them out. >> now we might hear specifics in just a few hours from donald trump on what he's thinking. he key notes a fundraiser in michigan. joining us now is the senior editor at the new republic. do you think he'll even mention his former adviser at all here? >> i don't think donald trump wants to dwell for any amount of time on any story he can be perceived or construed to have

lost. there was a tussle over the weekend as to whether roger stone was fired or quit to the extent there's any remaining disagreement i don't think donald trump wants to have the focus be on whether people are fleeing him. i think he wants the focus to be on how the boldest truth teller at the party and not afraid to stand up even to fox news, one of the biggest institutions within republican politics. so to the extent that he's not talking about stone and also not talking about actual substantive issues i think it's going to be about areas where he can boast that he's the commanding figure in republican politics right now. he leads in the polls and he stands up to everybody. >> so he's in michigan. he is in a state where we're talking about manufacturing, where we're talking about middle class, blue collar jobs. will he shift then to policy?

"the new york times," one headline reading trump is pivoting towards policy. is that what we're going to see in his speech tonight? >> you know, i think donald trump has a tendency to wander off script a lot and to speak in big notions about his slogan we can make america great again. one of the themes that he discussed at the debate is how bad things are in america right now. i think that a lot of people in the midwest, a lot of people who work in manufacturing, kind of feel in their guts there's some truth to that, but donald trump has never really laid out how he as president would be able to, you know, address their concerns or make their lives better. so it would be a huge change in direction if trump actually came out and said here's a few bullet points about how i would address that. >> is he equipped to do that? we talk about detroit, when we talk about the rust belt here, this is very complex. it is not a single level. is he ready to really dig into

policy that they want to hear about there in places like detroit? >> so i would address the question on two different levels. one, does donald trump know enough about policy? does he have enough ideas to where he can actually lay out some that would appeal to them? i think the answer to that question is in theory yes. there are some things at the debate, betrayed a real nomg about how some of this works. he talked in the debate about how our health care system is too fragmented and it gives consumers in individual states too little leverage over insurance companies to get good prices for medical care. i don't think most of the republican candidates could have articulated that idea as dler clearly as trump did. the problem when you're dealing with jobs, with manufacturing, in today's republican party is that a lot of the ideas that were the benefit of those kinds of communities that part of the country required government investment. they require spending. they require possibly down the

line taxes, and the republican party -- and the republican base is just not interested in entertaining those ideas right now. i don't think donald trump wants to disturb his position at the top of the field by coming out for some big new stimulus program. >> so you're saying he probably won't want to do that. his opponents have tried to stay more on the policy side as you know, brian. it hasn't worked for them in the polls. the double digit advantages that trump has had. being controversial has worked for trump. you have to ask, why would he change now? why not keep on that drumbeat? >> that's sort of why i don't think he'll do that. i mean, right now he's coming off this argument that he had with roger ales about how the republican -- the institutional party, whether you want to call it the rnc or those around the

actual party matter in politics. he seemingly won that fight. and i think that all he has to do is continue to suggest that if he gets mistreated, if his ideas are critiqued and he's ridiculed and driven from the primary not just by actual republicans but even by fox news, that he retains the right to run a third-party candidacy. i think that's really where he wants to keep the focus because it appeals to people. he will fight for himself and for what he believes in and he's winning and that's working. i don't think getting distracted by the actual nuts and bolts of how he would be president is really what he wants to do right now. >> it's a fund-raiser in michigan talking about money. could trump be sucking all the air out of the room? there are some reports, as you know, that rick perry, so far, is running out of money, that we

could be seeing some winnowing there in the field, that he's not paying his staffers. if this all becomes true, is he done early? >> i think it has happened in the past that republican candidacies and democratic candidacies for that matter have run into financial troubles early on only to rebound. it sort of happened to john kerry in 2004. it definitely happened to john mccain if 2008. i think rick perry has theoretically a lot going for him in the republican world. he's a deeply conservative governor from a state that's had a lot of economic success but had an embarrassing performance in 2012 and has had a difficult time convincing the republican voting base that he's capable of recovering. i don't want to say it's impossible and i don't want to say it's impossible because donald trump is there sucking the oxygen out of the field but i think it is the case that there are so many republicans,

jeb bush, hoovering up all the money. >> exactly the opposite in terms of the highs and the lows here. very, very interesting we lock at just four years ago. brian, thank you for your time today. >> thank you for having me. this morning rand paul, speaking of the republican field, sat down with new hampshire voters for politics, breakfast and eggs. they say it's the most important meal of the day. isn't it? the question is, is it? a growing body of research now contradicts if you skip breakfast you will gain weight even the nutritional guidelines suggest not to do. one recent study out of columbia concludes for overweight people skipping breakfast every day for four weeks actually led to some weight loss. how is that for a bit of food for thought. we live in a world of mobile technology,

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hillary clinton out today pushing her new college affordability plan in new hampshire before heading to iowa later this week to make the pitch. >> i want to make it absolutely clear that you will not have to borrow money for tuition to attend a four-year public college or university under my plan. >> clinton announcing her new

college compact monday. it targets heavy student debt by allowing graduates to refinance their loans and enroll in repayment plans that could cap their payments at 10% of their income. but it's an expensive proposition here. one that will cost about $350 billion over ten years. a media company for millennial focusing on driving social impact. thanks for being with us today matthew. >> my pleasure. >> what do you think of hillary clinton's plan. when we look at bernie sanders plan, and what makes one better an this other? >> well the only thing more expensive than a $350 plan is the cost of an uneducated

society. i think it is fantastic that you have the two front runners in the democratic party, hillary clinton and bernie sanders, both of whom are not tinkering with student loan interest rates but really going after the core crux of the college affordability problem, which is the fact that states have repeatedly disinvested money in college over the last few decades. and they are trying to put back significant funding. and in the case of hillary clinton's plan there are some strings attached to make sure we are just not subsidizing skyrocketing tuition until kingdom come. >> what is the one major difference between the two plans? >> well it is money. hillary clinton's plan is 350 billion dollars. bernie sanders plan is about 700 billion dollars. his plan would create four years of tuition free college. her plan will not cover as many students as bernie sanders' plan will. and it also is focused on some

of the student debt refinancing options. but bernie's plan focuses on all four years. hillarys focuses on two years of the community college and endorses what the white house has already put forward as the proposal. >> what do you think is doable here? you just were talking about the president's push for free community college. we have these two plans out there. we've heard of other plans along the way over the last eight years. what's doable? because we haven't seen a lots of the rubber hitting the road. >> here is the good news. the good news is of all of the economic specific policy proposals that candidates have put out, the first one is on student debt. that shows you how far this issue has come. it shows you how important millennial are to this election. and it shows you that this crisis of 1.2 trillion dollars of student debt can't be ignored. in terms of what's tenable, there is bipartisan consensus

around the idea that you actually have to have hold colleges accountable. they can't just keep raising tuition year after year. so what is in secretary clinton's plan is a provision that essentially says we're not going to give federal money and the federal student loan program towards amenities. towards your college reck center. instead it has to go towards learning. we've heard rubio say the same thing. we've hear republicans say we have to have price controls on colleges. the fact is colleges don't operate in a free market. many are guaranteed federal money. and as we know the business model is based on exclusion. a lot of them like to not admit students in order to enhance pres teeblg. so they are not operating like shoe store in a free market. instead we have to put price controls on tuition, caps or at least some teeth so that if they have terrible graduation rates and terrible student debt levels and default and delinquency

rat rates we say that is it. we're cutting you off. >> you mention marco rubio. he's the only republican candidate that has mentioned the plans or the need for such plans so far at some depth. what is the thought here about how this is going to become some sort of political football as we move forward? it will be forgotten once we get closer to november? and it will be forgotten after the inauguration happens. >> at attention.com on our website we wrote a piece about this and we were very disappointed to see in over three hours of debate among 17 candidates there were zero mention of a college affordability plan and only in passing did senator rubio really refer to the fact that he has student loan debt and that qualifies him to understand financial struggles. which i it may but we didn't see any questions asked on these topics and that is very troubling. i think that the democrat candidates have come out front and center all put forward debt free or significant college affordability plans shows they

are taking the issue more seriously. and that they are going to resonate with millennial this election. and obviously get hopefully some voter turn out boost as they are hoping as part of that. >> looking at millennial and the concern they have. there is the issue of the retroactive assistance as many are out of school and they still have debt. will these plans address that? is that an important part inform any plan? >> it is a huge part. there are millions of people out of college who are dealing with the harsh reality of debt and pretty high interest rates. 5, 6, 7, 8% even worse if they took out from some predatory lenders. now the plan under secretary clinton's would allow for student loan debt refinancing at the current treasury levels and current interest rate levels that current stafford loans are tied to. so that is a good thing. most young people support that. we took a poll on our site.

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donald trump is getting ready to hold his first campaign event since the republican debate and spent the day hitting the gop colleagues running against him. and he's also refusing to rule out a third party run. >> i want to run as the

republican. but i do want to keep that door open in case i don't get treated fairly. today the head of the epa is vowing to do whatever it takes to restore water quality. >> it pains me to no end to see this is happening. but we're working tirelessly to respond. >> and attention in ferguson. new questions about heavily armed members of a controversial group showing up at demonstrations. who are the oathkeepers and why are they there? we're live in ferguson. donald trump is on stage tonight for the first time since the republican debate. and the controversy with megyn kelly. in just a couple of hours trump will headline a republican party dinner out in michigan. a brand new poll finds trump beating even wisconsin governor scott