Skip to main content

tv   MSNBC Live  MSNBC  August 12, 2015 12:00pm-1:01pm PDT

12:00 pm
endorsements from politicians like orrin hatch. bush has built a huge political war chest. and then there's this. >> the american dream is dead but i'm going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before. okay? you know, jeb bush, one of my opponents, milana, she'll make a beautiful first lady, i can tell you. and a great first lady. she's got a great heart. great heart. she cares more about those women issues that bush doesn't care about. she cares more about that em by the way they said i won the debate. is that nice? is that nice? nice? the polls came out and said i won. these stiffs, these politicians, they're stiffs. you know what a stiff is? stiff is a person, i'm saying to wealthy people in the front row, you know what a stiff is? >> as of now, the noise from the
12:01 pm
donald is drowning out the traditional from jeb. meanwhile, on the other side, hillary clinton has raised the most money. she's the establishment candidate. but then there's this. >> one of the kind of fun things about running for president is you can bring issues out from under the rug and demand discussion. let me tell you, it seems to me to milwaukee a lot more sense to be investing in education and jobs than it intercourseration and jails. any nominee of mine in the u.s. supreme court will in fact, have to pass a litmus test and that litmus test, that litmus test will be that he or she will state loudly and clearly that they will vote to overturn
12:02 pm
citizens united. what this campaign is about is the understanding that the rich get richer and everybody else gets poorer because we are not standing together as one people. >> according to a new poll in new hampshire, it is burn, bernie burn. red hot, topping clinton for the first time in the key early voting state. to make matters worse for hillary clinton, she's handing over her private e-mail sever to the feds, assure this is something that keeps getting talked about. intelligence officials say two of the four classified e-mails they discovered contain top secret information. the state department trying to figure out whether that information was top secret at the time those e-mails were sent. we know it's a long time between now and election day. here we go. start with the e-mails. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams.
12:03 pm
clinton maintaining she's never e-mailed classified information. what's the just department looking for here? >> well, it's a way -- way too soon to know whether that may not be correct. she could be right that she never e-mailed classified information, there's no way to tell at this pointen the fbi is not looking at her, it's looking at server. its mission to look at whether classified information was mishandled and how it got on to the server. but the fbi first has to find out what was on the server. what was the universe of e-mails that her server held. now she has agreed to turn over the server itself and also thumb drive that held e-mails from the server that her lawyer had to the fbi. that will probably be finished by tomorrow, that process. and then the fbi will continue looking at this. but that's their mission right now. how did stuff get on there? what was it? was any of it classified? >> justice correspondent pete williams starting us off on this wednesday, thank you so much.
12:04 pm
for more on the politics, i want to bring in in political reporter erin mcpike, 453 day until the collectielection, cli endured six months of e-mail talk. how does this get quieted down? what is going to take to quiet critics on the campaign trail with regards to all of the e-mail stuff? >> well, craig, i think hillary clinton probably has to sit for more interviews and come clean about everything. it's not necessarily that she was hiding a ton of information here. but the coverup part of this has looked so bad because as you said, it has gone on for some six months and it's going to continue until she testifies on capitol hill on october 22nd. it has been the main story line, big narrative, for her campaign. and it's been really hard for her to turn the page on this. of course, bernie sanders in the polls in new hampshire has not been a welcome story line for her either. really the only thing she has going for her now in terms of
12:05 pm
good, positive headlines is this defending of planned parenthood debacle how the republicans have handled. you see her taking advantage of that. really pointing out jeb bush and some of the mistakes he's made on the campaign trail in terms of talking about that recently. and also marco rubio, who otherwise had the most stellar debate performance last week when he said that he opposed -- he opposes abortion in cases of rape and incest. that is not an issue that will play well with independent and women voters in a general election setting should he be the nominee, and hillary clinton is running with that, as she should, as the front-runner for the democratic nomination and as she's running this historic candidacy hoping to be the first woman as president of the united states. >> drawing huge crowds, some five times as large as the numbers that are coming out for hillary clinton, he's now leading in new hampshire. you just saw the poll on your screen there, even if you factor in the margin of error, but
12:06 pm
bernie sanders is still relatively unknown on a national scale. at what point should the clintons become legitimately worried about bernie sanders? >> i think that is still a really good question. and i don't know the answer to it. we keep saying can't see bernie sanders possibly being the nominee. i think that's still true. but we've also, on the other side of the aisle, tried to declare the end of trump's candidacy so many times that he keeps on rising in the polls or staying on top. at this point, bernie sanders is someone to watch, take seriously, do opposition research, do real reporting on what it that is he wants. but i have yet to believe, yet to see ways that the campaign is going to turn all of these crowds into votes. he does not have the same set of number crunchers that barack obama did in 2007 and 2008 when he had the best voter mobilization team in the history of presidential politics. bernie sanders doesn't seem to have that.
12:07 pm
he is turning out big crowds but he's getting a lot of donors, too, a lot of good money, but i don't know that you're going to see that turn into votes at the polls come next year early in the primary process. >> jeb bush took aim, as you know, at hillary clinton and president obama last night in california over what he called their blind haste to get out of iraq. this is what he said -- >> like the president himself, she had opposed the surge, then joined in claiming credit for its success. then stood bias that hard-won victory by american and allied forces was thrown away. and all of her record setting travels she stopped by iraq exactly once. who can seriously argue that america and our friends are safer today than in 2009 when the president and secretary clinton, the storied team of rivals, took office? so eager to be the history makers, they failed to be the
12:08 pm
peacemakers. >> is hitting clinton on iraq, is that the best strategy for bush? >> he certainly has to hit her on iraq, there's no question there. what i took issue with in those comments was that he called iraq a hard-won victory. i don't know that you'd find very many people saying that the u.s. efforts in iraq have led to victory. there are still u.s. troops in iraq and still trying to figure out how to have some kind of success in iraq. that country is in a lot of trouble. and what i've got from bush's speech is that he's still not able to talk about the failures of the bush administration and that's what he really needs to do. and the same way that mitt romney needed to say what was wrong or right about health care in massachusetts, jeb bush really has to go into the history of the iraq war and say what his brother and his administration did wrong and exactly what he would do differently. just attacking hillary clinton
12:09 pm
is not going to achieve that for him. >> sounds if he's trying to fine his voice perhaps on iraq early in the campaign here. with the donald, because everyone continues to talk about his surge in the polls. here's the thing, though. even if you listen to the debate closely last nigh you get a lot of rhetoric, bluster, you do not get a lot of details from donald trump. he's yet to give voters specifics about his policy plans. still holding strong in polls, though. next debate, 3 1/2 weeks away. what point will supporters start demanding some details from donald trump? >> when he does those town halls in new hampshire and in new hampshire the voters there are the pickiest of any in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, when he starts taking questions from voters in new hampshire he's going to have some problems if he can't come up with real numbers and some real proposals. i will say this, though, that a
12:10 pm
lot of campaigns don't like to put out specifics because it's something that their rivals can target. you may remember herman cains 999 plan. >> who can forget? >> bloomberg ran numbers on that plan and found it to be unworkable. once these politicians put out more plans and more specifics, they have a way of unraveling. so trump is smart in a way of saying he doesn't want do that he wants some wiggle room but he has to go farther than he's been going. once we hit the fall in new hampshire you might start to see him skidding a bit. >> i know we've got to get out of here. this is something that strike me about this particular campaign. iowa, as you know, iowa is a state that requires a ground game, the a state that requires a great deal of organization to be successful. at last check, you correct me if i'm wrong, donald trump does not asignificant ground presence in the hawkeye state is that true? >> i think that's changing. they have gone on a hiring spree. i do think they has a decent
12:11 pm
ground presence in new hampshire. from what i understand the campaign is beginning to hire in those two states. but you're right, he has to go a lot farther. and i remember earlier this year when he was talking about running for president he couldn't name one county in eye which you have to be able to do if you're running for president there. so he has to step it up. but i do think that campaign is in the process of doing it. >> erin mcpike for us, thank you so much. what else we're following at this hour, developing news in the sports world. tom brady and the nfl. roger goodell at least, meeting face to face over the deflategate suspension. we will tell you what a judge has ordered both to do. colorado's governor telling nbc's own andrea mitchell whether he's considering legal action over the toxic spill that turned a major river orange. and stairway to heaven, why this video has gone absolutely viral worldwide. all of the news you need to know
12:12 pm
coming this hour on msnbc. this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain. and clearer skin. this is my body of proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis from the inside out ...with humira. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further joint damage and clear skin in many adults. doctors have been prescribing humira for nearly 10 years. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis serious,sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. visit humira.com and talk to your rheumatologist. humira. this is a body of proof!
12:13 pm
toenail fungus? seriously? smash it with jublia! jublia is a prescription medicine proven to treat toenail fungus. use jublia as instructed by your doctor. look at the footwork! most common side effects include ingrown toenail, application site redness, itching, swelling, burning or stinging, blisters, and pain. smash it! make the call and ask your doctor if jublia is right for you. new larger size now available.
12:14 pm
12:15 pm
msnbc with developing news right now. a judge telling pats quarterback tom brady and nfl commissioner roger goodell to take a time-out and settle on a game plan for their dispute over brady's four-game suspension for deflategate. if not, back in court a week from today when that judge says, he'll decide. the nfl said it will cooperate either way. let's get you down to the courthouse on pearl street in lower manhattan. that is where we find rehema ellis. i know there were no camera
12:16 pm
allowed in the courtroom. ours did pick up plenty of action outside the courthouse this morning. and it was difficult to tell whether those boos were for roger goodell or whether those boos were for tom terrific. >> reporter: that's a good question. i was inside the courtroom when those boos, et cetera, were going on outside the courtroom. and you might surmise that there might have been some boos and ahs. either way. but i should tell you inside the courtroom it was a very strict courtroom decorum as the parties came in and sat down and got down to the business of trying to settle this. to your point, the judge, richard berman, is basically saying to both parties he would like to them to take a time-out and settle this. one of the things that he said sort of that's it's in the best interest of parties in a case like this where they have a continuing relationship.
12:17 pm
roger goodell is going to continue to be the commissioner of the nfl and tom brady is going to continue to be the quarterback. and so he was suggesting to them that he thought it would be a good idea if they did settle. to your point, rather than him having to make the decision. >> there are some reports out there that one of the things that might get the nfl to settle a little more quickly is if tom brady were to accept the findings of the wells report. what do we know about those reports? >> reporter: it's a little hard to hear you right now. i'll try to talk over -- we've got the fire -- ambulances behind us. what i can tell you is, in that courtroom today, there was no indication of a sentiment of tom brady admitting guilt to anything. they went in ready to fight.
12:18 pm
his attorneys were saying to the court, they were even questioning whether or not the two patriot employees who were accused of having direct connection with the footballs even actually did anything. when they were asked by the judge why would those employees be engaged in deflategate if it was not something that tom brady wanted or was aware of? and the attorney for the players union and tom brady said, we're not sure that deflategate even happened at all. their contention that is maybe the weather played a part in reducing the amount of air in those balls so with that being the line where we begin the discussion, it doesn't seem that tom brady is ready to concede that he was involved in anything that was underhanded at all, at this point. but discussions are continuing in that courthouse and the judge is trying to get them to seech some sort of settlement. we'll have to see what actually comes out of all of it. >> it goes on.
12:19 pm
rehema ellis for us, consummate professional as always, thank you. the head of the epa touring the site of the toxic sludge in colorado that has now spread to neighboring states. governors of those states are debating whether to sue the federal government over the resulting disaster. andrea mitchell asked colorado's governor about that a short time ago. >> i don't think we decided that. you know, actually yesterday the tour that we took, we were impressed that it doesn't appear to be lasting environmental damage. >> nbc's scott cohn in durango, colorado for us. the feds admit they are at fault here. what now? >> reporter: well, craig, the next step is among many steps, is to figure out what the damages are. here's why that's a lot easier said than done. take a look behind me. as you can see, the animas river is no longer running orange but take a look at the rock in the
12:20 pm
middle of the channel there. you see the sort of bright spot just above the water line. that's basically like a bathtub ring. we see that around here. that sentiment left over from the spill that turned this river orange over several days. we're not sure, and the scientists aren't sure, and the activists aren't sure exactly what that represents. does it mean that there are heavy metal residues in the water now. the epa is going to be doing a lot of testing but so are other agencies and organizes to keep them honest. we expect within the next couple of hours the attorneys general of the states affected including colorado, utah, new mexico, will hold a news conference to talk about what steps might be next. we also know that the navajo nation, which says this spill literally change their way of life, the rivers run 200 miles through navajo land, they say they are planning to file suit against the epa because they believe the site should have been declared a super fund site long ago. here's the rub, in an area
12:21 pm
that's dependent on tourism, do you want it to be labeled a super fund site? there's always been a delicate balance between the science and politics and thinking now, craig, that balance may be shifted by the spill. >> scott cohn, thanks for the update. breaking news. involving wallet mz the dow at one point today was at a low for the year, right now you can see it, down about 31. more than half of the stocks in the s&p 500 had been in the red today. and the reason for these wild swings, china. let's dig deep for in what that means for the markets and for your bottom line as well. cnbc's mary thompson more on what's happening with wall street over the past 48 hours. what do we know? >> as you mentioned, stocks are now mixed, well off their lows of the sessions when we had some steep declines after the opening bell today. those were fueled by concerns about the chinese government's decision to devalue its currency.
12:22 pm
that was weighing on the mark, as many see it signaling continued weakness in the world's second largest economy. weakness many fear could affect the u.s. and europe. fueling the comeback, strength in energy stocks, utility stocks and tech shares thanks to turnaround in apple. apple helped pace the broad decline as china is a critical growth market for the firm but the stock has rebounded. that in turn pulled the nasdaq higher. oil stocks up as well as crude oil held on to slight gains despite a bear irk report showing inventories of crude and gasoline and jet fuel dropped less than expected last week. financial stocks are under pressure, though, today as many speculate china devaluing its currency the u.s. frev will hold off from raising interest rates, fairing that higher rates could choke off the u.s. recovery. financials remain lower again, we see that strength in utilities, energy, and tech stocks. that, of course, has helped the nasdaq turn positive and helped
12:23 pm
the dow and s&p come off their low of the day. >> thank you. more football news. new details emerging about the locker room fight that has sidelined jets' qb geno smith for at least six weeks including the start of the season. turns out, whole thing was over $600. smith had accepted a $600 plane ticket from ikemefuna enemkpali to attend football camp which smith didn't show up for the camp because of the death of a friend and enemkpali demanded money back. starting quarterback refused to pay. that's when the fight happened. broken jaw for geno. enemkpali sixth round pick apologized. he was immediately released by the jetted. smith still has that $5 million contract but again won't be playing for some time. and we get another classic cover from the "new york post." back in three. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact.
12:24 pm
kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. a disacan mean at keeps you broken dreams fractured hopes shattered lives. turn to disability justice, the social security disability experts, they can help you get the benefits you earned
12:25 pm
and put your life back together again. disability justice. call eight hundred, four two five,ninety-one hundred it's the brand more doctorsose recommend for minor arthritis pain. plus, just two aleve can last all day. you'd need 6 tylenol arthritis to do that. aleve. all day strong. no student's ever been the king of the campus on day one. but you're armed with a roomy new jansport backpack, a powerful new dell 2-in-1 laptop, and durable new stellar notebooks, so you're walking the halls with varsity level swagger. that's what we call that new gear feeling. you left this on the bus... get it at the place with the experts to get you the right gear. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
12:26 pm
12:27 pm
where did everyone get politically correct? that is a question that we have hear a lot over these last few day. if you head to college campuses it's political correctness run amock. the coddling of the american mind examines an increasing trend of hyper pc classrooms and what that trend is doing to students' brains. it's an issue that prompted couldn't tri's most unpc comics to skip class altogether. big h >> when i read the article i said, my gosh the person who is going to continue this discussion i started -- i didn't start, some other people did -- i mentioned it before about how college kids have no sense of hume somewhere jerry seinfeld said something, chris rock chimed in, larry the cable guy said i don't play colleges anymore, they're too politically correct. >> president, ceo of the foundation for individual rights
12:28 pm
and education and also co-author of the atlantic article. so, greg, i mean, do safe spaces and free thinking spaces have to be mutually exclusive? >> i don't know necessarily think they do, but what we tried to do in the new article is take a look at the way we're presuming this incredible fragility on behalf of students and how that's making it more difficult to talk along lines of difference. >> what are some of the examples that you found? >> my goodness, well, you know, first of all, there's of course the massive increase in d disinvitation pushes over the years. there's the policing of what are called microaggressions that include things as inknock cue ow as for example, asking people wher they're from. one listed the word arab, sounded something like out "the office" or michael scott saying isn't that insulting to arabs 0 to say the word arab itself is problematic. >> one university event called
12:29 pm
hump day where students were invited to i guess sort of pet a camel and it was shut down because some found that offensive. who would that offend? >> that one made me sad because i would love to pet a camel. it was -- the fund-raiser at a college in minnesota, where they were having -- they said it was animal cruelty but interestingly it was offensive to middle easterners. but middle easterners never mentioned just pet a camel event. >> this isn't a resurgence of political correctness. what else is work. >> a generation of a combination of helicopter parents and this sort of what john, i call vindictive protectiveness, where there's a sort of moral fervor to protect people from emotional harm it's taking on this edge preventing people from talking to each other. >> that's interesting. what than terminology again,
12:30 pm
vindictive. >> vindictive protectiveness. i loved your opening, by the way, talking to bill maher can we take a joke on campus thing. one of the great symptoms comedians are fleeing campuses. a documentary, can we take a joke, in a couple of months. >> college campuses are supposed to be, if not perhaps the last great bastion of this kind of thing. what's the effect on students in the long term? >> you know, i think in a lot of cases students' hearts are in the right place but where you create an environment where everybody's talking on eggshells, i guess you could say, you end up having people not talk to each other but also start thinking themselves and each other as incredibly fragile and the problem is that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. >> you mentioned microaggressions in the article and write about trigger warnings as well. what's a trigger warning for
12:31 pm
viewers and listeners? >> an idea of warn someone in advance they might run into material that might be upsetting or traumatic to readers. >> so it would be like sort of what we might say at beginning of a bad movie, an r-rated movie? >> pretty much, yeah. but the problem is that universities are in some cases being pressured to adopt these. and the problem with it is that trigger warnings are so fundamentally subjective that i think that the american association of university professors is entirely right to say, wait a second, if we have to guess what's going to upset any student in our class and warn them in advance, we're in trouble because that's impossible. >> if the culture needs to change, who's responsible for the change, students in the classes or colleges and universities themselves? >> i think it's colleges and universities themselves. i think that we have to train students in the art of debate, i think we have to get back to the old fashioned idea of hearing people out, you know, for example. i think jeff stone wrote this
12:32 pm
great statement on academic freedom recently that should be adopted. it does have to come from education on down, primarily. >> a fascinating article. definitely worth the read in "the atlantic." appreciate your time. >> thank youer to having me. were prisoners at clinton correctional facility beaten in the frantic hours after richard matt and david sweat escaped? and trump, the feminist? his war of words with hillary clinton over who would be better for women. hands...where it belongs.
12:33 pm
olay regenerist. it regenerates surface cells. new skin is revealed in only 5 days. without drastic measures. stunningly youthful. award-winning skin. never settle for anything less. the regenerist collection. from the world's #1. olay, your best beautiful more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about long-acting levemir®. as my diabetes changed, it got harder to control my blood sugar. today, i'm asking about levemir®. vo: levemir® is an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. that's 50% longer than lantus®, which lasts 28 days. levemir® comes in flextouch,
12:34 pm
the latest in insulin pen technology from novo nordisk. levemir® is a long-acting insulin used to control high blood sugar in adults and children with diabetes and is not recommended to treat diabetic ketoacidosis. do not use levemir® if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause symptoms such as sweating, shakiness, confusion, and headache. severe low blood sugar can be serious and life-threatening. ask your doctor about alcohol use, operating machinery, or driving. other possible side effects include injection site reactions. tell your doctor about all medicines you take and all of your medical conditions. check your blood sugar. your insulin dose should not be changed without asking your doctor. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing, sweating, extreme drowsiness, swelling of your face, tongue, or throat, dizziness, or confusion. today's the day to ask about levemir® flextouch. covered by most health insurance and medicare plans.
12:35 pm
a new sea chance to tryew look. something different. this summer, challenge your preconceptions and experience a cadillac for yourself. ♪ the 2015 cadillac srx. lease this from around $339 per month, or purchase with 0% apr financing. we're back. here's what's going on now. brutal beheading at hands of isis. appeared to have killed a croatian man kidnapped last month in egypt, an image purportedly of the beheading is circulating online accompanied by a caption blaming the heading on croatia's role in the war against isis. young mississippi couple
12:36 pm
behind bars, arrested for allegedly planning to join islamic state on their honeymoon. jaelyn young and muhammad dakhlalla arrested at a mississippi airport with tickets that would have taken them to turkey from there they allegedly planned to cross the board for in syria. seven people injured when a blackhawk chopper crashed near japan in apparent emergency landing there. the pentagon calling the incident a hard landing. the military helicopter conducting a training mission an the time. the cause of the crash is still under investigation. this amazing video of a fiery art installation is going viral. collect this out. 80-clip shows a blazing ladder climbing 160 feet high into the sky. the sky ladder, as it's called, sky ladder, fireworks by a chinese artist created as a tribute to his grandmother for her 100th birthday.
12:37 pm
back to top story, politics. hillary clinton, donald trump, attacking each other over who's the best for women. clinton slammed trump's comments about fox news anchor megyn kelly as, quote, offensive and outrageous. trump shot back at clinton last night. >> hillary said your comments about women were offensive. what's your reaction to that? >> well, i think i'll do more for women -- i cherish women -- i think i'll do more for women than hillary can ever do. >> trump didn't stop there. he even defended planned parenthood, to a fox audience. >> you have it as an abortion clinic. now that's actually a fairly small part of what they do but it's a brutal part and i'm totally against it, i wouldn't do that. they also, however, service women. a lot of women are helped. so we have to look at positives also for planned parenthood. you know, even a guy like you, you may be convinced it does positive things.
12:38 pm
i look at it very strongly, we have to help women. >> polls show momentum isn't slowing down. he brought the crowd to its feet last night at a gop fund-raiser in michigan. >> i love this country. we are going to make it so strong and so powerful and so respected all over the world we're going to bring our jobs back. we are going to bring our money back. we're going to save social security. you are going to love president trump. >> betsy woodruff politics report for "the daily beast" new article tackles the unlikely role as a planned parenthood champion. we'll go that in a moment. start with trump's latest poll numbers here. up five points on jeb bush in new hampshire, up five points on scott walker in iowa. despite controversial comments on women arc among other things he's holding on strong in two key early states. what's going on here. >> absolutely, he's doing quite well. you can't deny how impressive
12:39 pm
numbers are. however, there's a variety of different data points that have come out recently that sort of belie that surge, rasmussen started a national poll and showed that his support among republicans nationwide has actually gone down nine points since a week and a half ago. a poll in iowa i thought a fascinating detail of the respondents who watched the fox news debate. 55% felt less positive about trump's candidacy after seeing his performance there. so, while his momentum certainly undeniable and impressive, it's not necessarily as straightforward as just good news all of the time for trump. >> interesting that suffolk poll in iowa that you mentioned, sounds as if the more people hear from him, see him, the less comfortable they are with him? >> perhaps. it's hard to say that we can speak in a generalization about it, obviously since he announced his candidacy his numbers have only gone up and he's won enormous media attention and effective about pushing his
12:40 pm
message, snagging headlines, partly saying things that are controversial, like, mccain wasn't a real war hero because he was captured. according to the poll, his debate performance may not have helped him but other polls sort of combat that. it's hard to say. it's fascinating. >> the comments that we just heard there is support of planned parenthood is that strategic? why would he -- why would he go there? that can't be something that helps him with republican primary voters, i wouldn't think. >> you certainly would not think it would help him with republican primary voters. anytime a republican candidate says something that wins praise from explained parenthood you expect that to be a problem part of the reason he's saying so much about his support for things that planned parenthood does he's trying to go after jeb bush. jeb bush had a verbal slip up a few weeks ago we don't need to be spending 500,000 on women's health services.
12:41 pm
trump has gone after him every time in public, he says jeb is bad on women's health. i think when trump can push his support for some aspects of planned parenthood he sees that as a way of contrasting with jeb. >> this was raised by political reporter at top of the hour, erin mcpike, and her contention was that one of the reasons donald trump has not revealed specifics about any type of plan, whether it's to bring jobs back or specifically what he would do for women is that opponents can then attack those specifics. is that what's really happening here? is that why we have not gotten a great deal of specificity from donald trump? >> i think that's probably a very serious explanation for why he hasn't given specifics. one thing that's interesting, when he does give specifics they're head scratchers. my colleague wrote a story yesterday detailing trump's plan to fight isis. his plan to fight isis, bombing
12:42 pm
more iraqi oil fields and having troops stand in a circle around the oil fields. and that is what trump has said is the way of combatting the growth and momentum of the islamic state. that's some detail there, right? that's specific. but i don't know that it necessarily impresses people some it makes sense, for instance, his health care plan now is to repeal obamacare and replace it with quote/unquote something terrific. as long as he's vague people can't scratch their heads and raise pointed question what particularly president trump might do. >> who would have thought thisserly in the cycle bernie sanders and donald trump are surging. >> it's an embarrassment, perhaps to reporters we missed this, the momentum emerging between the two candidates. trump, momentum hasn't let up despite what the nay sars have said. it's fascinating a when while on earth ii joke.
12:43 pm
it's an interesting election. >> fascinating to watch but one must wonder how long it is going to last. betsy woodruff, thank you. they say donald trump is defying political gravity, riding high in polls no matter what he does. last night dare devil nic walenda completed his longest ever tightrope walk at the wisconsin state fair, of all places. new record for the man who already holds some nine guinness world records. there he is right there, 36-year-old, walked more than 1500 feet more than 10 stories high above the milwaukee mile speedway on a wire no wider than a nickel. as always, surrounded by family including his mother a member of the famous flying wallendas. what will the guy do next? [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?
12:44 pm
that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan,
12:45 pm
insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, they could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call today to request a free decision guide. with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and virtually no referrals needed. join the millions who have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp... and provided by unitedhealthcare insurance company, which has over 30 years of experience behind it. with all the good years ahead, look for the experience and commitment to go the distance with you. call now to request your free decision guide. ♪ wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is.
12:46 pm
we're making hiring anyone from a handyman to a dog walker as simple as a few clicks. you don't have to be a member to buy their services directly at angieslist.com but members save more on special offers. angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. visit angieslist.com today.
12:47 pm
new interview just in to us here at msnbc, secretary of state john kerry heads to cuba for an historic flag raising at new u.s. embassy in havana. will be the first time the american flag will fly there in some 50 years. ahead of the trip, msnbc's jose diaz-balart just spoke with secretary kerry and asked about reports that cuba dissidents will not be invited to the historic ceremony. >> there are reports that the dissidents will not be invited to the cuban embassy ceremony on friday. is there anything the united states is not willing to do to
12:48 pm
have relations with the cuban government? >> there are thousands of things we're not willing to do and none of those things that you just mentioned are in fact a reflection of our decision to open diplomatic relations with the cuban government. the question of dissidents, i'm going to meet with dissidents, i will have an opportunity in the course of the day -- >> closed door, privately? >> they will be invited to our mission, they will come to the mission. i'll have a chance to sit down with them at the mission. there will be a broad cross section of cuban society that will be invited to that event at the mission. what they're not invited to, quite eppley, is the raising of the flag at embassy itself because that's a government-to-government moment with very limited space, by the way, which is why we are having the reception later in the day in which we can have a cross section of civil society, including some dissidents. >> secretary of state john
12:49 pm
kerry, a short time ago with our own jose diaz-balart. catch more of the the interview tonight on telemundo and tomorrow morning 9:00 a.m. eastern. >> other developing news now, new fallout tied to that prison escape by convicted killers richard matt and david sweat. this afternoon, the lawyer representing some inmates who claimed they were abused by correctional officers in the frantic moments after the escape talked to my colleague, andrea mitchell. >> appear to me, based upon the complaints we received, that there was a real concern about how did this escape happen, where was the security breach, and there was an effort to find out the information as soon as possible. >> according to new information from "the new york times," inmates claim that within hours of june's break they were beaten, choked and slammed against walls by guards in the hunt for information. "the new york times" calls it a
12:50 pm
came pan of retribution. following the three-week manhunt for richard matt and david sweat, the times reports prison guards abused dozens of inmates while looking for information about the escape. the times quoting two inmates who worked in the prison tailor shop. . one says he tied a plastic bag around his neck and tightening it until he passed out. and another says prison officials put him in solitary confinement throughout three weeks and throw out most of his photographs and his wedding ring. >> the amount of complaints that we have received lately and the descriptions that we're hearing about the tensions within the prisons and particularly in clinton, it is very concerning. >> the prison came under fire following the escape, some saying the relationship between
12:51 pm
prisoners and prison workers was too friendly. former prison tailor shop worker joyce mitchell pled guilty to charges of aiding the fugitives. now the new york department of correction says the abuse allegations have been under investigation for several weeks and have also been referred to the state inspector general adding any findings of misconduct or abuse against inmates will be punished to the full extent of the law. according to the times, one inmate says after being beaten during an interrogation he was pressured to sign a report saying quote, i was not assaulted. left with no other choice he wrote "i signed." >> if it is true, that things did happen as they say, why? >> and cassidy also told us many of the prisoners feel they are being blamed for happened. he also added it is important for prisoners to have a voice and to file grievances.
12:52 pm
the fact some may have been denied that viegt a concern. meanwhile, prisons across the country are facing a short rj of corrections officers. following a group of rookie corrections officers is a new reality series as they train for and take on one of america's toughest prisons. the penitentiary of new mexico. >> so many inmates and different personalities and they are all put in this one box and expected to get along which is impossible. >> why are you hovering over me. >> you are told in the academy that there are inmates that will stab you. and they are walking that close to you. and they can smell your breath. >> behind bars rookie year airs wednesday at 10:00 eastern. why allow the cameras inside the prison? what did you hope to accomplish? >> well i think -- and thanks
12:53 pm
for letting us be here. i think there are a number of things we wanted to accomplish. first and i think maybe the most important, we can look at national news now and tell that for far too long prisons have kind of existed as closed institutions. and we've got to make sure that the public is allowed in behind those bars to make sure that they understand not only what is going on but why it is important to the safety of their neighborhoods that they live in. so that was a huge goal in this to begin with. but the second was to tell the correctional officers' story. i think when we ask ourselves a question, who keeps us safe at night, i think the people we see and feel -- the police, i spent 32 years of my life as a policeman. the fireman. we see and feel them every day but what happens behind the prison walls we don't see that. and the reality is 91% of the
12:54 pm
people in the prisons based on our constitution, they are going to be joining us at some point with grocery lines and families and it is very important wh a we do behind those prison walls. >> the rookies are under a lot of pressure to begin with. this is a clip for a show where an inmate accuses officer carlos of playing to the cameras. take a look. >> what have i done? >> your mouth is going to get you in trouble. if you were to stay quiet then nobody would. >> every time these people come you shake my bunk down. >> because you are over here -- >> how many times you ever even try to write me up [ bleep ]. >> did all the inmates consent to being a part of it? >> yes, sir. they sure did. >> okay. i want to go back to the clinton correctional story. are you surprised by the reports out of the clinton correctional
12:55 pm
that you have a number of inmates that were allegedly beaten and choked and thrown against the wall in the frantic search for information? does that surprise you? >> well i think -- let me qualify it up front, craig. that i know very little about the facts of that case. i know what i'm seeing reported on television. but here is what i do know. is that those prison, every one of those prisons whether in new york or new mexico are very tense, very negative environments to begin with. and when you introduce a critical incident like that, the tension rises very very high. and it is very important from a management point of view that we keep our eye on that ball and we also under that there are certain security measures that are going to be taken in the aftermath of that crisis to make sure that a handle is being gotten on what happened and how to mitigate that risk that are going to change the lives of inmates and of course that is going to come with a lot of complaints. so i think right now -- you
12:56 pm
know, i'm not personally in command of enough facts to make any kind of assessment on it but i'm not surprised we're tseeinga peak in complaints out of system. >> thank you very much. and that is going to do it for us. i'm craig melvin. ayman mohyeldin up next with the latest on hillary clinton's e-mail, tom brady versus roger gold in the nfl and the impact of the black lives matter movement on 2016. much more ahead no sixth grader's ever sat with the eighth grade girls.
12:57 pm
but your jansport backpack is permission to park it wherever you please. hey. that's that new gear feeling. this week, filler paper and folders just one cent. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. the kids went to nana's house... for the whole weekend. zzzquil. the non-habit forming sleep aid that helps you sleep easily, and wake refreshed. because sleep is a beautiful thing. ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ [ female announcer ] fiber one. ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ you're down with crestor. yes! when diet and exercise aren't enough, adding crestor lowers bad cholesterol up to 55%. crestor is not for people with liver disease, or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor all medicines you take. call your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness,
12:58 pm
feel unusually tired, have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine, or yellowing of skin or eyes. these could be signs of serious side effects. i'm down with crestor! make your move. ask your doctor about crestor.
12:59 pm
don't wait for a chip like this to crack your whole windshield. with safelite's exclusive resin, you get a strong repair... ...that you can trust. plus with most insurance a safelite repair is no cost to you. really?! safelite repair, safelite replace. you've got mail. hillary clinton will hand over
1:00 pm
her e-mail server and thumb drive to the justice department as officials dig for classified data that could have been compromised on the private server. is this the end or just the very beginning? >> less than a week after trump's controversial remarks about megyn kelly. trump is offering himself as the champion for women and he's earning praise for planned parenthood. >> i thought jeb bush made a horrible mistake when he fwlu the whole situation on women's health. >> and new england patriot's quarterback tom brady appeared in federal court with nfl commissioner roger goodell appealing his suspension. things got rough as the judge grilled both sides. we start though with hillary clinton ordering her aids to turn over her private e-mail server to