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>> yes, but that's not why. hillary clinton needs to treat this like the real primary that it's becoming. if she doesn't, i fear she's going to be in trouble. >> thanks so much for your time. "politicsnation" with the reverend al sharpton starts right now. tonight on "politicsnation," new poll numbers for donald trump. and a big headache for jeb bush. trump calling out bush on iraq. also, bernie sanders pulls ahead of hillary clinton in a key state. president obama writes an emotional letter about voting rights. and heart-breaking video from an ohio jail. a woman's final words before her tragic death. welcome to "politicsnation," i'm here tonight in los angeles,
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a city still grappling with the legacy of the watts riots 50 years later. we'll have more on that later in the show. but we begin tonight with big news out of iowa. a new poll finding donald trump trouncing the competition there. scott walker, who at one time was leading in the state, down to third place. and jeb bush, who many had thought would be the race's front-runner, in seventh place. moments ago, trump responded to that poll and on what he thinks about life on the trail. >> i am enjoying it. i was in last night as you probably heard, in fact, you put it all over your show, i was in michigan and it was an amazing crowd. we had 3,000 people, and they turned away a tremendous number of people because the place just couldn't hold any more. and it was an absolutely fabulous evening, and it was standing ovations all over the
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place. >> he's enjoying it. and he also seems to be enjoying going after his opponents. the latest, rand paul, who accused trump of being a phony conservative. >> you know, you look at a guy like rand paul, he's failing in the polls, he's weak on the military, he's pathetic on military. here's a guy called me, a year ago, let's play golf, can we go and play golf. i think he's a far better doctor than he is a senator. and you know, it's fine, trying to do a little bit of a number. the last two people that did it were lindsey graham, he came at me really hard and he's now at zero. rick perry was at 4% and he came at me really hard and went down to 2. which was a great honor. rand's campaign is failing. hasn't his whole team been indicted? >> i think the super pac supporting him. >> yeah, they've been indicted, so he's a mess, there's no question about it.
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>> now, senator paul has not been indicted, but mr. trump won't let that stand in the way of a good attack line. and he got in a dig at jeb bush also, who is down to seventh place in iowa. >> unlike jeb bush, unlike the brother and you know, who got us into the whole war, i was totally opposed to the war. of all the candidates running, i am the absolute only one that opposed the war. so one of those things. you could call that vision. >> trump hitting bush right where he's weakest. on iraq and his brother's legacy. trump's enjoying it. and a lot of democrats are probably enjoying it too. joining me now are michelle cottle from national journal and amy holmes, host of hot list on the blaze.com. thank you both for being here. >> thanks, rev. >> a pleasure, thank you. >> amy, trump says he's enjoying
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this. do his gop rivals feel the same way? >> i think there's a pretty simple answer to that, and that is no. of course not. but donald trump should be enjoying himself. he is riding high in the polls. he gets to go to these crowds chanting his name, cheering him on. what's not to love? particularly for a man who loves attention and here we are giving it to him. he's the jesse ventura of politics, and he's having a great time wrestling with his gop rivals. >> michelle, trump is at 22% in iowa. now, is this bubble going to burst? >> of course this bubble is going to burst at some point. i mean, right now, the only people paying attention to politics are the people who are really fired up about something. and donald trump is running a campaign entirely aimed at the gut. he wants people to be angry just like he's angry. they're responding to his
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demagogue demagoguery, but at some point, everybody will pay attention and the numbers will rationalize. the question s at that point, does he then decide to run an independent candidacy, and that could be real trouble for his opponents. >> now, amy, before i get you on the independent candidacy, the fact is that he's faced another question, that he's not a real conservative. here's how he answered that question last night. >> to those that doubt your conservativism, explain the transition. how did you grow into a conservative? >> it's sort of easy to explain. one of the things i always start with, ronald reagan was a democrat, sort of liberal. and i knew him. and i knew him well. he liked me, i liked him. he was like this great guy. and he was a democrat, with a liberal bent, and he became a great conservative, in my opinion. >> now, one, amy, do
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conservatives accept his comparison to reagan? but let me -- >> no. >> -- also raise this to you. it's interesting trump touted reagan, because in his book, the art of the deal, he compared reagan to a con-man, writing, quote, you can't con people, at least not for long. if you don't deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on. ronald reagan is another example. so smooth and so effective a performer that he completely won over the american people, but he said by the end of reagan's second term, people were beginning to question whether there's anything beneath that smile. these are his quotes. now all of a sudden he's a big fan. so was he saying things about reagan then that rand paul and others are raising about him now, amy? >> well, that would just be yet another donald trump liberal flip flop here. he doesn't get to just say the name ronald reagan as an
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inicantation and voila, he's a conservative. you don't get to be a conservative by association. he doesn't seem to have very conservative ideas. he just came out saying he's for a wealth tax, and he thinks that's conservative if it pays down the debt. he said yesterday that he supports taxpayer funding of planned parenthood, where none of his gop rivals support that and a lot of conservatives don't because pro lifers don't want to see taxpayer dollars going to an abortion provider. donald trump, i think, says what people want to hear, as michelle was mentioning earlier. and for now, it's working. but i don't know when rubber hits the road, when he actually has to have organization and constituents, particular in iowa to come out and vote for him and actually pull the refer, that he's necessarily going to have support. i don't want to make predictions because he's certainly blown past all of them. >> michelle, in that same line, trump is now starting to face questions about where he stands,
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obviously. he told the "new york times," quote, when you're dealing, and that's what i am, i'm a dealer, you don't go in with plans. you go in with a certain flexibility. and you sort of wheel and deal. you wheel and deal. are gop voters going to like that when they hear that, if he ever outlines his policies? are they going to like it? he's wheeling and dealing, michelle. his words, not mine. >> this could be the rare candidate whose position is, i'm going to bend whichever way the wind blows. i don't think that the whole kind of pushing policies down the road will work indefinitely. right now, though, again, nobody is looking at policy details. a lot of the other candidates haven't gotten their details out. it's pure personality, pure demagoguery, and for the crowds that he's talking to these days, that's what they want to hear. they can worry about all the
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tiki tacky policy details later when everybody else starts paying attention. >> now, let me ask you another question, amy. we're talking a lot about trump in politics and we should, he's leading in the polls. but i noticed that dr. ben carson came in second, has risen in the polls and of course that's of interest. you and i have debated down through the years and there are people that are of african american descent that are conservative. he came and spoke at the convention at my group, was pretty well respected and here he's rising in the polls. what does that mean? >> i think it's very good news for dr. carson, and particularly in iowa. power line blog, a conservative blogger, has been reporting on ben carson's campaign events in iowa and evangelicals in iowa love him, that he's thoughtful, he discusses his faith and how it informs his politics. and of course he gave the speech that launched him at the
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national prayer breakfast standing next to president obama and willing to take him on directly. and that endeared him to a lot of conservatives. he did a great job last thursday. his closing argument many pundits thought was the winner closing argument of the night with humor, warmth, at least watching on tv, it seemed that the crowd had great affection for him. >> and i wanted to give you an opportunity to discuss that, because i believe that we can disagree without being disagreeable. you have the right to be totally wrong, and so does dr. carson. >> i extend that to you as well, reverend. >> so kind of you. but, michelle, let me ask, does comedian stephen colbert is begging trump to stay in the race long enough for him to do his new show. check this out. >> this is not an invitation, mr. trump. this is a dare. i dare you to come on the show. please, mr. trump, take care of yourself. take your vitamins.
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don't do anything dangerous. just stay healthy and engage the political process until september 9th. >> i mean, if some of trump's biggest fans are democrats and late-night comedians, what does that really say, michelle? >> well, it tells you that he's in the right spot right now. all he wants is attention. there's nothing that he's not willing to do. and on some level, why not? he's not a serious candidate for the long run. he might as well get all the fun out of it he can right now, go to all the rallies, chant, while it's still kind of a fringe game at this point. >> and can i add, reverend, he just promised, when he was going after bernie sanders, that if any black lives matter activists interrupt a donald trump campaign speech, he doesn't know if he'll personally fight them, but somebody will and that's going to be media gold. >> you know i support any issues
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that bring issues out. i think he's trying to bait a fight. i think people want to deal with issues. but thank both of you, michelle and amy, thank you both for being on tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, rev. ahead, breaking news on the health of former president jimmy carter, diagnosed with cancer. moments ago, we got reaction from president obama. also, the chilling words of an ohio woman said to police officers one day before she was found dead in her jail cell. >> but i will tell you this, i don't want to die in your cell. and fact-checking jeb bush on iraq, we break down his new attack on president obama and hillary clinton. plus, the bernie sanders bombshell. he's leading hillary clinton in a new poll. is it a wake-up call for the clinton campaign?
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breaking news, former president jimmy carter says he has cancer. in a statement released today, he said, quote, recent liver surgery revealed that i have cancer that now is in other parts of my body. i will be rearranging my schedule as necessary so i can undergo treatment by physicians at emery health care. president obama issued a statement that said, quote, michelle and i send our best wishes to president carter for a fast and full recovery. our thoughts and prayers are with rosalyn and the entire carter family as they face this challenge with the same grace and determination that they have shown so many times before.
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reports of a break-in at a car dealership. but the police chief says officer brad miller failed to wait for his partner before following taylor, and doesn't have a plan for making an arrest, leading to cascading consequences. >> based on a preponderance of the evidence available to me and the facts revealed by the investigative team, i have decided to terminate officer miller's employment with the arlington police department for exercising poor judgment. >> the chief said taylor never made physical contact with any of the officers. the officer's attorney released a statement saying, in part, quote, the police chief used 20/20 hindsight to protect his job and appease anti-police activists. officer miller made decisions in the heat of a violent confrontation to save his and other officers' lives.
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the fbi has declined the police department's request to investigate, saying they have confidence in the existing investigation. joining me now is seema ayer and eric guster, who is now a municipal judge. >> congratulations. >> seema, so the officer has been fired. are you surprised how quickly that happened? >> i am not. but i think it's also because of collectively what has gone on in this country with police officers shooting and killing young people. and i know it's not just young black men, it's also a young white man who suffered the same consequences. >> in south carolina. >> right. so i do think it isn't surprising. however it is a big step to fire someone, instead of just suspending them. and it also goes back to looking at what type of training this
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rookie received. and clearly he wasn't aware of what to do when approaching someone who looks possibly under the influence of a drug, or, rev, possibly mentally ill. >> also judge eric, it doesn't answer why this officer who was in training was there in the first place, and the fact that his lawyer, the officer's lawyer says it was -- he dealt in a violent confrontation saving lives. but the police chief is saying, he never made any contact physically with any of the officers. >> that's going to be a very interesting question. because the police department has to look at the videotapes from inside the car dealership and exactly what happened. because in the chief's statement, he said the officer was fired because he -- essentially, he did not follow protocol. meaning, he did not wait on his partner, before he made contact with the suspect. and that is the issue at hand. it's not about the shooting.
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that's why the police chief was kind of making sure with this written statement, that he was very specific as to why. he's not saying the officer was wrong in shooting the young man. he's saying he was wrong for not following protocol and not waiting on his backup, which is going to be interesting going forward, if any civil litigation comes out in this case. >> and civil litigation is possible, but also, seema, the fbi declined to investigate the shooting at the request of the local authorities. >> right. >> that request was made. but a spokesman for the dallas office said, and i'm quoting here, full confidence in the ability of the arlington police department and terant county district attorney's office to conduct a full investigation of this matter. they also added the agency will get involved if it determines a civil rights violation has occurred. what could prompt the fbi to get involved? how do you see a civil rights possible violation? >> that's a great question.
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because the arlington -- the police department itself has to re-examine their training and saying, are we not training our officers properly? or is there something biased going on, like the ferguson report where they found it was a police-wide problem that needs to be fixed? i do think the fbi should get involved, rev. because sometimes you need an outsider to look in and see what's happening. how can you, while you're in it, analyze it and really be objective? >> this is a little different, because he was in the commission of a crime. he was trespassing at a minimum and burglarizing at most. >> and that was their call. >> but it wasn't a life extenuating circumstance, so that's where we'll have to see where this goes. next story, growing focus on an ohio woman found dead in her cell late last month.
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cleveland heights police release body camera showing jones' arrest after a fight with the ex-boyfriend. in the video, you can hear jones talking with officers inside the jail, detailing her concern about several health conditions, including a reported brain injury. that's when she spoke these fateful words. >> i'm not asking for any exceptions to any rules, but i will tell you this, i don't want to day in your cell. the video also shows the officers talking to her about her health and how she can speak to her family. >> i have a suggestion -- >> go ahead. >> but it's going to be up to the next lieutenant. she's going to be here all night. there's a female cell available. it's a big block that has a phone that you can call collect on. my only concern is, with your
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health issues, it's easier to keep an eye on you here because it's harder for you to disappear. >> later that evening, jail personnel took jones to a health clinic for appearing, quote, lethargic. she was released a few hours later and taken back to jail. where she was monitored during routine checks overnight. she was found dead in her cell at 7:30 the next morning. the medical examiner's office say an initial autopsy revealed no suspicious injuries. police say she was given medicine while in custody. eric, where does this investigation go from here? >> well, i'm sure that the family's going to order an independent autopsy to see if there's any evidence of any foul play. but it sounds like the police department may have dropped the ball in that she asked for medical help, told them the several different medical issues she had going on, and they had a
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responsibility, as they continue to have responsibility, to make sure that people get the medical treatment that they need. even if they have to take a person to the hospital, put an officer there to watch them overnight, that is the police department's responsibility. and they obviously failed in the situation. >> but they did give medicine to her. >> but, rev, they're not doctors. just today i had two clients' families call me about their loved ones not being treated in jail. they are corrections officers, or police officers, not doctors. you take them to the hospital with an officer to watch them. because it doesn't matter if there aren't suspicious injuries. the question becomes but for not receiving immediate medical attention would this person have lived? and then they have broken -- >> judge eric, they will say they took her to a medical clinic. and a lot also with be raised in
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an independent autopsy, is whether there was timely and whether they were medicated properly -- he was medicated properly at the medical center. >> which the lack of proper medication wouldn't show as an injury. because that's where they may have fallen short, where they did not give her the right amount of pills, the right drugs. the medical clinic could have been a whack doctor that didn't know her medical condition and history. so there are a lot of layers to this they'll find out in the coming months. >> and whack say legal term, rev. >> thank you both for your time tonight. don't forget to catch seema on the docket, tuesdays at 11:00 a.m. eastern on shift by msnbc. coming up, a wake-up call in the democratic primary. bernie sanders jumps ahead of hillary clinton in a key state. plus, an unexpected move from president obama to push for voting rights. stay with us. this guy first roamed the earth over 65 million years ago.
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today president obama took his fight for voting rights to the pages of the "new york times." he wrote a letter in response "the times" recently article detailing a half century of efforts to undermine voting rights. president obama writes, quote, i was inspired to read about unsung american heroes like rosanell eaton. i am where i am today because men and women like rosanell refused to accept anything less than a full measure of equality. their efforts made our country a better place. it's now up to us to continue those efforts. congress must restore the voting rights act. 94-year-old rosanell eaton has been fighting for the right to vote since the 1930s. and she's still involved today,
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challenging voter suppression laws in north carolina. i had the honor of speaking with miss eaton on "politicsnation" last year. >> decades after jim crow, could you have ever imagined fighting for the right to vote again, after all these years? >> no, i can't imagine that i've got to go through the same thing that i went through 80 years ago. at least 75. i can't imagine going through that again. but i am going through it. and it's actually worse than it was then. >> civil rights are still a huge issue in the country today. just as they were in watts 50 years ago. mora that ahead. i'm ready to crack like nobody's watching.
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bernie sanders surge is real. a bombshell new poll put his numbers at number one in new hampshire. topping hillary clinton among democrats. sanders just spoke to msnbc's andrea mitchell about it just moments ago. >> a lot of these people are young people, working-class people, who understand that both the economics of america today and the politics of america today are rigged in favor of the wealthy and the powerful. almost all of the new income and wealth is going to the top 1%, the billionaire class is now able to, through citizens united, put unlimited sums of money into campaigns and basically select the candidates it wants. people are saying enough and enough and i think we're seeing a lot of support for our campaign as a result. >> the poll comes as huge crowds
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turn out for rallies on the campaign trail, the biggest for any candidate so far. it does have a silver lining for clinton. more democrats say they would pick sanders, but a majority, 65% still believe clinton will actually win the nomination. the poll comes as she's hit a rough patch with her e-mail controversy. so the timing could provide an opening for sanders. and republicans have noticed even donald trump took some time to bash sanders about protesters that interrupted one of his events. >> i thought that was disgusting. that showed such weakness. that was a disgrace. i felt badly for him. but it showed that he's weak. you know what, he's getting the biggest crowds and i'm getting the biggest crowds. we're the two getting the crowds. but believe me, that's not going to happen to trump. >> joining me now, is jimmy williams of blue nation
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review.com and msnbc contributor jonathan capehart. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> thanks, refr. >> so, jonathan, a sure sign bernie has arrived, he's getting attacked by donald trump. now, is trump also shrewdly here trying to help bolster bernie, so it's taking a shot at mrs. clinton? i mean, what does this mean? >> this is sort of fitting in with the pattern that donald trump has been using. you know that you are actually making some head way when he attacks you. he attacks jeb bush, he attacks rand paul, tried to snuff him out for real. he attacks marco rubio, and on the democratic side, he was hammering away at secretary clinton, but now that bernie sanders is surging in the polls, at least in the poll of new hampshire voters, he's going after bernie. but he's going to be hitting at both clinton and sanders a lot
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over the next few weeks, the next new months. because there's another poll out of iowa caucus goers, that shows hillary clinton definitely in the lead, beating bernie sanders, 50% to 31% and leading in all groups of democrats. so donald trump is going to have a whole lot of fun attacking democrats and republicans over the next few weeks and months. >> now, clinton has a strong lead over sanders in favoritability amongst black americans. she has 80%, sanders' favorableability at 23%. is support among minorities a big obstacle for the sanders campaign? >> i think that's true. a think a large part of it don't know ho-oknow who he is. there's not many african americans in the state of vermont and it's not a very populated state.
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most black americans just don't know who bernie sanders is. they will get to know who he is. he has another problem which is his performance with black lives matter and then again doing the same things in seattle with one of his campaign rallies. i'm not so sure that poll is not an outlier. in the four polls prior to this, hillary clinton was bumping up at 50%. bernie sanders was in the 30s. and this poll also underestimates, very much, older voters. in 2008, for example, in new hampshire, people above 55 years of age, they came out at 40-something percent. so this assumes that only under 30% of people over 55 will actually vote for her. that's a problem. there's a bigger problem with this poll. and let me just say this very quickly, and that is, of these people that were polled, saying they favored bernie sanders, 36%
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say that he can't win the election against any republican nominee. that's a problem. >> jonathan, one of the things in terms of the minority polling on sanders is true, a lot of them don't know him. but it reminds me of 2004 when howard dean and i were in the democratic primaries and he was saying that a lot of blacks didn't know him. but it also then says then, how do we know how you deal with race relations? i think that's one of the reasons bernie sanders have begun to address racial inequalities, because saying they don't know me, there are none in my state, you have to say, then how would you govern, how would you deal with it? part of his progressive message, he's saying, directing what he would deal with in terms of ine! qualities. listen to this. >> there is no president who will fight harder to end institutional racism in this
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country. the issue of wealth and income inequality is the great moral issue of our time. >> how is that kind of message affecting secretary clinton? >> secretary clinton is also talking about income inequality, but it's bernie sanders who has been talking about these things for decades now. remember, he's running as a democrat, but he's a socialist. so it's a big thing for socialists. so for min ort communities, african americans in particular, they'll pay attention closely to what he has to say. but that 80% favorability number, one thing that jimmy left out, and that is sort of residual loyalty to the clintons among african americans. african americans were the stalwart backers of president clinton during impeachment. because of their support,
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president clinton's overall job approval rating was up in the 60s. now that his wife is running for president, president obama is not running for re-election, people are a little nostalgic, they see there's bill's wife, for better or worse, former secretary of state, former senator from new york, she's running and they know who she is. it's incumbent upon bernie sanders to try to break through that. >> but she had favorabilities in 2007 and 2008 and it didn't bear out when african americans went to the polls. and they had the same nostalgia, she was beaten by barack obama. so i wouldn't -- [ all speak at once ] >> especially after barack obama won iowa. >> and started dealing with a lot of these issues. began galvanizing the vote. bottom line, jimmy, does the clinton campaign have something to worry about? >> no, i think the clinton campaign has a strategy.
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robby mook, the campaign manager has put out a document talking about how campaigns go through fluctuations. polls go up, polls go down. this is normal. is this poll an outlier? i think it is. but the clinton campaign has a strategy, they're going to stick with it and i think they should. >> thank you both for your time tonight. still ahead, we found a few key details that jeb bush left out of his speech about his brother's war in iraq. and it's been 50 years since the watts riots shocked the nation. i'll talk about what's changed and what hasn't. ♪ [music] jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
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>> unlike jeb bush, unlike the brother who got us into the whole war, i was totally opposed to the war. you have to know when to go and when to use the military. they used it at the wrong point. >> late today, donald trump ripping jeb bush over the war in iraq. it's an attack that might sting, coming less than 24 hours after jeb bush blasted president obama and hillary clinton for withdrawing from iraq too quickly. >> so why was the success of the surge followed by a withdrawal from iraq? that premature withdrawal was
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the fatal error. and where was the secretary of state clinton in all of this? like the president himself, she had opposed the surge, then joined in claiming credit for its success. they stood by as that hard-won victory by american allied forces was thrown away. >> bush attacked president obama and hillary clinton for the withdrawal date. but somehow he forgot to mention the person who actually set the withdrawal date. that's right. george w. bush established it before he left office, determining troops shall withdraw no later than december 31st, 2011. in fact, jeb bush failed to mention his brother or the policies that launched the u.s. war a single time in this speech. he also left out the massive
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toll that the iraq war and the surge took on u.s. troops. under president bush, over 35,000 u.s. troops were injured or killed in iraq. under president obama, 1,880 casualties. this is the real legacy of the war in iraq. and jeb bush would be wise to remember it. joining me now is hardin lang, senior fellow at the center for american progress. thank you for being here tonight. >> good to be with you. >> jeb bush didn't mention the name george bush once. has he forgotten the real lessons of the iraq war? >> look, i'll give him points for bravery here. if your last name is bush and you're critiquing policy and failure in iraq, that's a pretty brave move. if there's any original sin here, we're going to have to lay that at the previous bush
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administration. everyone knows that isis grew out of al qaeda in iraq, and al qaeda wasn't in iraq until we invaded in 2003 and dismantled the military. >> now -- go ahead. >> please. >> let me bring that point up, because i want to play this. he did mention his brother ordered the decision to invade iraq, which you referred to, but he made a passing reference to the, quote, failures of intelligence. listen to this. >> in a long experience that includes failures of intelligence and military setbacks, one moment stands out in memory as the turning point we had all been waiting for. and that was the surge. >> failure of intelligence, includes failures and military setbacks. i mean, is he glossing over what got us into this war in the
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first place? >> look, this would be amusing if it wasn't slightly offensive. it's an awfully dangerous move to start talking about failures of intelligence when the colossal failure of intelligence that led the administration, or the administration blamed in 2003 for invading iraq, really is at the heart of the matter here. quite frankly, what i find sort of problematic about the entire speech last night, there was no real clear path of the way forward. >> right. >> candidate bush talked a lot about the need to be more resolute and tougher in iraq and about the possibility of putting a few more troops in, but he didn't say anything about how we were going to help the iraqis work on the politics of the situation, which is really what's led to the revival of isis. >> you know, it also looks like jeb bush is taking a page from his brother's foreign policy playbook, when you look at who is assembled to advise him. 19 of the 21 members of his
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foreign policy team worked for his brother or his father. is jeb bush promising the return of the bush doctrine, hardin? >> well, he's certainly surrounding himself with the architects of that doctrine, and that's got to be cause for concern if nothing else. the other issue is, if you look at what he said in syria, what he called for, were the establishment of not just one, but a number of safe zones throughout the country. and imposing a no-fly zone to enforce that. while i understand the logic there, the question is, who's going to defend those safe zones on the ground? as everyone knows, northern syria looks like somalia at the moment. so if we're talking about american troops on the ground to protect people underneath american planes, then we're right down the path that led us into trouble in iraq in the first place. >> hardin lang, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. still ahead, a new version of dr. king's, i have a dream
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speech as you've never heard it before. plus, 50 years after the watts riots, the positive steps we've seen, and the change we still need to fight for. emax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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we're back with a story that we couldn't bring you yesterday because of breaking news. historians have released a new
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audio version of dr. king's i have a dream speech. it was given a year before the march on washington at a high school gym in north carolina. >> i have a dream tonight. one day men will do unto others as they would have others to do unto them. i have a dream tonight. one day my little daughter and my two sons will grow up in a world not conscious of the color of their skin, but only conscious of the fact that they are members of the human race. i have a dream tonight. >> those words in that small high school gym were the first steps toward a speech that would go down in history. but his dream remains unfulfilled. from ferguson to watts, i'll talk about that ahead. mber 1 de. ♪ fresher dentures with polident.
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turning point for the country and for the civil rights movement. the riots started after the arrest of a young black man, who police suspected of drunk driving. there was a scuffle, and the arrest set off six days of riots in los angeles. 34 people were killed and more than a thousand others were hurt. watts was a wake-up call for the nation, that had just seen the signing of the voting rights act. the riots showed that civil rights issues ran deeper, involving policing, poverty, and education. the emotions were still raw 20 years later in 1985. >> special segment tonight. watts, 20 years ago this summer, the little known los angeles ghetto became a household name overnight, when it erupted in flames, riots, and death. >> the riot was defended by some as a symbol of black america's impatience with slow progress in civil rights and skrobs.
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many young people in watts today don't know much about the riots, but they know about present times. >> you walk this life. you live or die on the streets. >> nbc's tom brokaw went back to watts again recently to see how it's changed. >> 50 years on, the portrait of this neighborhood looks different. it's now a majority latino, and yet many of the aspects of life here remain stubbornly separate and unequal. >> you have some progress, and then you have some setbacks. there are things that happen daily and that you look at the calendar and say, is it really 2015? and then you see progress. >> i think we have to, as a community, instill in your children the pride and the dig nitty and the determination to do the best you can do wherever you are. >> 50 years later, watts has changed a great deal, so has the country.
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but we have a long way to go. many of the leaders i worked with in watts and l.a. and around the country weren't even born then. i was only 10 years old. but the root problems of social justice, criminal justice, policing, poverty, education, has changed very little. and until we change the root problem, we will go just from one incident to another, thinking we can put out brush fires without dealing with the cause of the flames. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. the donald trump playbook. attack and attack hard. let's play "hardball." ♪ >> good evening, i'm steve kornacki in new york, in for chris matthews. we begin tonight with the most dangerous game in politics today. taking on donald trump. last night trump gloated about the state of ric

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