time tonight. >> thanks, michael. >> i'm michael eric dyson, "politics nation" starts now. tonight on "politicians nation" deporting people who should be american citizens, even babies. that's donald trump's plan and a lot of republicans agree with him. plus, the other amazon controversy. what's happened in warehouses. >> jeb bush gets slammed for his iraq comments from both the left and the right and new hints about president obama's agenda after the white house. welcome to "politics nation." we begin with donald trump and the gop's lurch to the right on immigration. forget self-deportation. their new line, babies born in

america shouldn't automatically be american citizens. that plan goes against our constitution and our values, but here is donald trump defending it. >> one big thing is going to jump out. you want to get rid of birthright citizenship. >> you have to get rid of it. they are having a baby and all of a sudden, nobody knows -- >> you believe they are trying to do this to come here? >> when we have some good people, we have some very good people here, we have a lot of really good people. they are illegal. we're going to try and bring them back rapidly, the good ones, rapidly. you know the word expedited. >> i do. >> what do you do about the order where you have the grant from the dream act, the executive order that the president that is -- >> the executive order gets resended. one good thing -- >> you'll resend that one, too?

>> one good thing -- >> you're going to have to. we have to make a whole new set of standards and when people come in, they have -- >> you're going to split up families and deport children. >> chuck, chuck, we're going to keep the families together but they have to go. >> what if they have no place to go? >> we will work with them. they have to go. we either have a country or we don't have a country. >> kids born in the u.s. to undocumented parents wouldn't be citizens and he would deport 11 million people, including dreamers, young people who lived here nearly all of their entire lives from a fiscal standpoint, this plan would cost more than 100 billion-dollars and from a moral standpoint is completely bankrupt, but some of the other candidates refuse to condemn it. >> if a child is born here from

immigrant, illegal immigrant parents, they become citizens right now. >> of course, our constitution said over the course of time that's the case. what i said recently is that's got to be something discussed in the course of an entire reform package. >> dou you believe the issue of birthright citizenship should be changed? >> well, you know, we should talk about what it would take to get it changed. i would take passing a constitutional amendment to get it changed. this is part of the 14th amendment so honestly, we should put all of our energy, our political will of finally getting the boarder secured and fixing the illegal immigration system. >> governor scott walker went even further fully agreeing with trump. >> do you think that birthright citizen ship should be ended? >> like i said, harry reid said it's not right and that's something -- yeah, absolutely.

>> we should end birthright citizenship. >> to me it's about enforcing the laws in this country. you enforce the laws and i think it's important to send a message we'll enforce the laws no matter how people come here and we need to uphold the law in this country. >> and you should deport children of undocumented immigrants. >> i didn't say that. i said they need to enforce the law which is focussing on either -- >> let us understand the gravity of what we're talking about here again. we're talking about really changing the 14th amendment. we're talking about spending over $100 billion to try to deport 11 million people who have nowhere that we know they can go. we're talking about people that you and i may have known. i went to school, grew up in brooklyn, new york. i went to school not only with people from the kaca caribbean, trinity, jamaica, people rush

jews from puerto rico would have to go back. if their parents were undocumented, this is outrageous fiscally, this is outrageous morally and against the constitution but of course, donald trump on top of telling you and i we're going to spend $100 billion, he's also going to build a wall and pamake mexico y for it. he hasn't told us how he intends to make that happen. joining me now is henry fernandez, senior fellow for the center for american progress and joan walsh of salon.com. thank you both for being here. >> good to be here. >> joan, what's worse, what donald trump said or the fact that others are going along with it? >> i think the fact that others are going along with it. donald trump is who he is. this is the trump effect. this is what he's doing to the race. he's pulling these candidates to the right. scott walker was totally incoherent in that answer. >> he said follow the law like

he never read -- >> he said yeah -- right, that would be against the law but casey asked him and he said yes twice. they didn't support it but they didn't oppose it and come out and morally say this is a terrible idea. people deserve that birthright. so, you know, also, i think it's really, it would really create a kind of police state to enforce it. what's he going to do? put them in cattle cars? buses? >> henry, i mean, to me the thing that is so disturbing, first of all, how do you find -- >> house to house. we're already dealing with a law enforcement question in this country, in this country. >> nationwide, that's right. >> the fact that there seems to be a sense of almost cowardness among his opponents afraid to take him on on something like this, changing the constitution to take away citizenship, they

won't say that's wrong? do they actually think that's doable? >> i think that the republican party has allowed donald trump to take them down this path. the republican party after president obama's second victory in 2012? had what they called an autopsy to try to figure out why they lost and lost badly and their number one reason was that they could never again be seen by latino immigrants, latino citizens of the u.s. as being anti immigrant, as being anti latino, same with asians. they could no longer be seen this way. yet, if they had that autopsy, they dragged that corpse back out of the ground and donald trump has, is pulling them all in this direction. the republican nominee to win the election will need to get 47% of the latino vote. right now, donald trump is

pulling at 13%. this is going to destroy the party. >> after this new plan, i'm sure that 13% went way up. he said he's going to win the latino vote. >> yeah, there is no polling that shows that. he will lose under current polling to either democrat by the largest margin for any major republican, major party candidate in the history of the united states because of his positions on issues like this. >> now republican candidates, some did criticize, joan, let me play this. >> i appreciate the fact that mr. trump now has a plan, if that's what it's called but i think the better approach is to deal with the 11 million people here illegally in a way that is realistic. >> our leading contender, mr. trump, is going backward on immigration and i think he's going to take all of us with him if we don't watch it. >> i mean, are they the only

ones even thinking about respecting the latino vote and the law? >> well, lindsey graham was part of the group, the bipartisan group that created the senate bill that passed with republican support so that's not a surprise. jeb bush came out and said this is not a good idea. but, you know, i think it is a majority sentiment in the party, polls show that republicans support the idea of mass deportation. they don't support the idea of doing away with birthright citizen ship, though. that's where he's gone too far. >> not only joan, they support, most americans, henry, don't want to change the constitution to ban children of illegal immigrants from getting u.s. citizen ship at birth, even ai among republicans as joan said just 47% want that change but does that minority have all the power in the primary? that's the political question.

>> they will continue to have this problem, the republican party and you'll continue to see this kind of, it's really gone beyond dog whistle races. i'm just straight out, you're going to continue to see this unless more republicans say this is simply unacceptable. we got to this point because this language was allowed. it's been allowed by john boehner in congress. it's been allowed to go on. trump got to this point only after he had called mexican immigrants criminals and rapists and we did not see a major push back and let's remember jeb bush is not for citizenship and the senator from south carolina has actually himself dabbled with the idea of getting rid of the 14th amendment. so there is this problem pretty broadly in the republican party at this point. >> now, the birth stuff shouldn't be a surprise from trump. after all, he was the original

birther with president obama but he was even asked about that this weekend, listen. >> do you believe president obama is a citizen born in the united states? >> i don't like talking about it anymore. honestly, i have my own feelings. he should have taken the $5 million. he spent $4 million in legal fees to keep his records away. maybe the hackers have his records. i mean, he spent $4 million in legal fees. >> if you want him to release his, would you release yours? >> i'm proud of my records but he has to do it. if he does it, i'll do it. >> he'll release his college records if president obama does. he should took the $5 million. >> wow. >> the birth thing against the president obama is what, when the gop started letting him build up, have they gotten the candidate they deserve? >> absolutely. remember, they competed for his endorsement 2012.

mitt romney and trump doubled down on the day, i believe the day that romney was headed to accept the endorsement. so they had plenty of opportunities to y s ties to re he said about the president. they did quite the of and it made him a force in the republican party. they are reaping what they sewed. >> henry, i want to ask you a question, and i know my twitter will go crazy, but when you look at the fact that president obama was first one he went after with the birther stuff, first african american president and then goes after mexicans, how much is race playing into the ground-building popularity of donald trump? >> well, donald trump has a long history of problems in this area. i mean, his company has been sued by the justice department for refusing to renting to black people. not just in his public life but

business life. he has serious problems in this area, and i think that there is a segment of the electric which appreciates this kind of racist dog whistling. i don't think it's the majority of the republican party. he has 25% support now. he hasn't really moved up. the real problem for the republican party is that other candidates can't get beyond ten or 1 1% because they are not talking about the kinds of issues that will get people to the polls f. y. if you have a reality show, which is where they are, not surprising the star is winning. >> well, i think that they have a reality show and sometimes that you sew you reap and he's their candidate right now that's in the lead. henry fernandez, joan walsh, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend. coming up, hillary clinton

and donald trump agree on something. jeb bush is wrong on iraq. also, controversy over worker's rights. the headlines about amazon you're not hearing about today. and sanders is surging and the biden talk is heating up. is it time for clinton to reset her campaign? plus, beyond the white house, new details about president obama's future plans from climate change to criminal justice. a big show tonight. stay us. rand paul said his campaign will focus on taking down donald trump. and trump said, i've tried it myself, i doesn't work. what am i supposed to say? no student's ever done the full hand raise in ap calc. but your stellar notebook gives you the gumption to reach for the sky. that's that new gear feeling.

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lots of folks are talking about "the new york times" report on the work environment at amazon's main offices but today a new article from vox says there is a history of other issues. the company's but collar workers in the warehouses. the report sites a long list of examples, it says employees had to sign details non-compete agreements, that a warehouse in pennsylvania had temperatures higher than 100 degrees at times and that a company policy required workers to go through long security screenings when leaving work without getting paid for that time. vox also highlights a bbc

reporter who went undercover at an amazon plant in the united kingdom two years ago. he recorded the challenges he faced. >> the hand set tells adam what to collect and put on the trolly and gives him a set number of seconds to find the product. the screen counts him down. he's working hard but he rarely reaches his target. >> the pressure is unbelievable. >> we reached out to amazon today. they said a lot of the issues raised by vox have been fixed, such as the air conditions and non-compete agreements and say the u.s. supreme court sided with them on the issue of workers not getting paid for

going through screenings. but today, as people talk about the company's corporate culture, we should also think about the welfare of the blue collar workers that pack the boxes ending up at your door. joining me now is peter goodman. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> what should people realize about the amazon warehouses? >> there is human beings working in the warehouses. amazon like a lot of publicly traded companies like walmart that are ruthlessly efficient in the service of the customer, trying to give us cheap prices and give us stuff quickly, they are very, very good but human beings are not robots. human beings need things and if they are in a hot place where it's 110 degrees and can't take breaks and can't go to the

bathroom and women are discriminated against when pregnant. it's a problem and something we don't see, we don't feel on a daily basis. we're happy our boxes show up. >> the efficiency. >> right. >> at what cost you're saying in some of these companies because "the new york times" reports quote in amazon warehouses employees monitored by sophisticated e welcome trlectrs to ensure they are packing enough boxes an hour. >> amazon is particularly good. they are geniuses when it comes to vacuuming up data about every aspect of the operation and measuring people with the data. they have strict benchmarks but this is the trend in american life that especially publicly traded companies who have a fa douc f

responsibility to squeeze more productivity and keep tabs. in newsrooms now, this are large outfits that are watching through the computer monitors to see how long their employees are spending in the bathroom. this is part of american life now. >> but especially in companies like with assembly lines. there is a punishing thing to keep up with. >> yeah, it's clear if you work in an amazon warehouse, you're racing against the clock at all times and being measured at all times and if you don't meet the measurement, you end up going to have to work somewhere else. >> let's look at the big picture, workers are more productive than ever but not getting paid for it. i mean, since 1968 we've seen 140% increase in worker productivity but we've seen 50% drop in the value of the national minimum wage. >> you just put your finger on the biggest problem in american economic life, for decades workers have gotten more and more productive and not sharing

in the spoils. the spoils are going to high income earners through dividends on stocks and capital gains. this is a serious problem that's not going to be solved by any one thing. we have to invest in infrastructure for better paid jobs for people in trades like construction, manufacturing and invest in education, retraining for people with lost jobs so they can figure out how to recover the income they lost and take a look at the trade policies and make sure we're getting a good deal as we liberalize trade around the globe. this is not a problem solved quickly. part of it is cultural. if work doesn't pay for the vast majority of people, if you can't through your work earn a middle class living, we're going to have problems. we're going to have social problems, crime, we're going to have dysfunction in families. >> all of that feeds into the other, that's why out of sight,

out of mind, that's why we're determined to keep the spotlight on things that go ignored that ought to not be ignored. peter goodman, thank you for your time. >> thank you. sanders is surging and new talk about the biden campaign. is team clinton worried? >> details about president obama's plans after the white house. and donald trump talks about batman has put him back in a familiar place. tonight's got ya. >> now i know most of the attention these days is on a certain flamboyant front runner, but don't let the circus distract you. if you look at their policies, most of the other candidates are just trump without the pizazz or the hair. [ laughter ] en you do business ,

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what would happen if joe biden got into the race for the white house. more and more people are talking about that as a real possibility as the fight for the democratic nomination heats up. this weekend, a south carolina paper called for biden to run and that state could be crucial because they would be the state that would be third in line, it would be very critical for biden's strategy if he does enter the race. meanwhile, the race for the domination is heating up between hillary clinton and bernie sanders with sanders surging in the polls, closing the gap with clinton to 20 points. she still has a commanding lead but she could be fieeling the heat. political reports said clinton trying to be more down to earth, approachable, that kind of candidate both she and sanders made the push to win over iowa progressives over the weekend.

>> boosting incomes for hard working families so they can afford a middle class life is the defining economic challenge of our time. i've been fighting for families and under dogs my entire life and i'm not going to stop now. [ cheers ] >> the american people are sick and tired with establishment politics, with establishment economics and that is why what this campaign is about is saying loudly and clearly it is not just about electing bernie sanders for president, it is about creating a grass roots political movement in this country. >> joining me now are christina bellitoni of "the los angeles

times" and jonathan alter. thank you both for being with me tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> hi. >> jonathan, who is clinton worried about more? sanders or biden? >> you know, to tell you the truth, i don't think she is hugely worried about either one. i think she feels like she would beat either one of them. her establishment support, which is important to getting the nomination is not collapsing in light of biden's possible run. in other words, the fundraisers and the key supporters are not saying oh, i'm getting wobbly on hilary, i might go with joe biden. usually, when you get into the race, the desire for you goes down and biden would think would be higher in the polls now than he is. so i don't think biden is frightening them that much. obviously, bernie sanders turned it into a conn tes and leading in new hampshire but i don't think she feels once they get into the bigger states with more

african american and latino voters that support her, i don't feel they think she'll have a problem for the nomination but she'll have to earn the nomination. it's not going to be a coronation. a lot of people work for her think that's a good thing because it gives her batting practice before the general election. >> christina, what do you think? do you think they are nervous? are you finding from the clinton folks? >> well, that's exactly right what jonathan is saying. they are nervous, nobody likes to be with somebody on your heels in politics but they did always know that they wouldn't just have a walk right up into the white house in either of the primary or the general election. they didn't take martin ocho ma - omally as a huge threat. what the concern is that he's getting late of interest and a lot of momentum and hillary clinton's team says she just needs to continue doing what she's doing and talk to voters.

the actual language that she's using really isn't all that different from what she was saying and when jonathan and i were out there on the campaign trail in 2007 and 2008 it's a little different tone. the fiery rhetoric that sanders is using to capitalize on this group of people in his candidacy is working, but when you look polls and drill down into the numbers, the supporters of bernie sanders are not saying they wouldn't vote for hillary clinton, only 8% of them in a wall street journal nbc news poll said they would never vote for hillary clinton and i think that's a really important number to keep in mind as we look at the crowds and look forward to what is going to happen in the iowa caucuses. >> i want to say a news flash, she didn't win in 2007, 2008 but i notice over the weekend, jonathan, bernie sanders talked a lot about racial, closing the gap, what is going on in race and he talked about policing. he went to national convention

and came to the network commission and met with young activists or at least exchanged with them and talked after being disturbed. is he now going after minority voters, something you just mentioned, a law to hilary and trying to make a dent there? >> he is. he has good claim on some minority support. he was there with martin luther king at the march on washington as a young man. >> how many know that today? >> not many know. it's a wrap he's not good on these issues and came from demonstrators from black lives matter but they may have distorted the debate and slimed bernie sander as bit in the process. >> they wanted to raise issue. we all do it our way is a very legitimate issue. >> the issue is hugely, hugely legitimate but what i'm saying is that as terrific an organization as that is, if it left the impression bernie

sanders was not good on issues, it would be a misimpression. the larger problem was the sound byte where he said yeah, he's running for president. he knows he's not going to be president but what he's mostly doing is building a grass roots movement and if that works and it seems to be on root to actually happening, that could be very helpful in terms of energy for hillary clinton in a general election campaign if you get that real movement, which hasn't existed particularly in off year elections. >> yeah, now let me go to this christina. let's go to biden for a minute because political as reported the potential strategy for biden, if he enters the race, it says quote, biden's strike thate sources say would be to focus on south carolina while almost writing off new hampshire where

both hillary clinton and bernie sanders have considerable foot halls. >> if they said they would write off any state is not a position of strength. joe biden has lost the race to become the democratic nominee twice, including one race where hillary clinton was in it and that's a difficult position to be in. sources i talked to close to biden say he genuinely has not made a decision and he has people encouraging him. it would be an uphill battle. nothing is impossible and clinton folks are not taking that for granted given the fact barack obama surprised him and able to win the nomination in 2008 but that is not a position to say look, i'm going to ignore one of the most important states in the country when it comes to the nominating process focus on a state i haven't won previously and don't have a huge base of support. he's been there many times but to up end the other candidates

in the race and hillary clinton would be very difficult. >> jonathan, political also says there is some resistance to biden among big democratic donors. quote, the dow ndonors he needs to be viable are ruling him out. they are in part unity and had little appetite to complicate the feel despite affection for him. they said biden should reject the inclination to run. if donors aren't behind him, will this detour him from getting in? >> he doesn't have to get in until the end of the year. he has some time to see where this e-mail story is going. for instance, there is an fbi investigation. it's not a criminal matter as "the new york times" reported but you don't know where these fbi investigations might go and so, biden might play for time, see where that investigation goes and then make a determination toward the end of

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now to president obama beyond thehe presidency. he played it with future plans but today we're getting a look. reporting on the high profile guest at the white house earlier this year where he talked about his post 2016 plans. it was a star-studded hemeeting that included eva longoria and tony morrison. "the times" say the plans involve a $1 billion presidential library and he'll focus on issues of criminal justice, race relations and foreign diplomacy. it's a serious agenda. a far car from the permanent vacation president obama joked about last year. >> where do you see yourself in ten years? [ laughter ] >> i know what i'll do like

right after the next president is inaugurated. i'll be on a beach somewhere, drinking out of a coconut, but that probably won't last too long. >> nope. the relaxation won't last long. the president has an am wibis a shows agenda ahead. joining me now is professor alan presidential historian at an american university. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. >> the president is raising money for his foundation, how common is it for a president to take his post presidency plans this seriously? >> you know, barack obama is, of course, a path breaking president and now he's being path breaking again in discussing his post presidential plans in unusual depth and precision. most presidents are usually not

that specific and open about what they are going to do when they stop zipping around on air force one. >> now, the president has spoken frequently about what he's interested in pursuing after he leaves office. watch this. >> i'll go back to doing the kinds of work i was doing before. just trying to find ways to help people, help young people get educations and help people get jobs. one of the things michelle and i talk about a lot is we're really interested in developing young people. and that's what my brother's keeper is about and this will remain a mission for me, and michelle just the rest of my presidency but the rest of my life. >> how much clout does a former president have, how much cloud and influence does a president command, professor? >> as much as the former

president wants as we saw with president carter as an ex president than he did as a president. we saw the influence bill clinton had as an ex president and let me say this, i think it is really important to have barack obama's voice and barack obama's activists after his presidency. i haven't scene this scapego scapegoating of immigrants. it's very sad and the first african american president as an ex president can really, i think, play a very important role in getting this country back on track again and helping us to understand what this country is all about and it's not scapegoating people. >> now, the times also reported about the president's visibility once his term is up. one told "the times" mr. obama respected mr. bush's decision to limit time but also admired mr.

clinton's aggressive use of the spotlight to press his agenda. quote, my sense is he is probably a blend of the two. in terms of style, what kind of former president do you think president obama will be as former president. >> i think he'll be much more activist than george w. bush. the issues are too important, not just race relations and bringing up young people belet's not forget the challenge of climate change, perhaps humanity's greatest challenge in many, many centuries. obama has been a very important voice in climate change involving diplomatic initiatives in which he's been doeeply involved and i hope he would be an advocate for climate change. >> thank you for your time tonight. >> any time. coming up next, over a year after his car accident, tracy morgan has a big announcement about returning to comedy.

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legislature in the modern era. he was an activist, intellect and organizer at the same time. he didn't play his base, he led his base. bond was active well into his 70s. in 2013 he spoke at a rally held by myself rights group, the national action network marking 50 years since the march on washington. >> we march for freedom from white supremacy but still we have work to do. none of it is easy but we never wished our way to freedom, instead worked our way. the success strategies of the modern movement were litigation, organization, mobilization and coalition. all aimed at creating a constituent si for civil rights. >> that week i was honored to stand by his side at lincoln memorial. i always looked up to him as a role model. he opposed the vietnam war. he always said civil rights

ought to be extended to everyone no matter what. julian bond was 75 years old. as i thought about him this weekend when i heard of his passing, i thought one of the most outstanding admirable things about him, he started a young man, a student and became middle aged and became older but he never left the movement. as a young man, a generation or half a generation behind dr. king, he and john lewis and carmichael and jesse jackson, that generation tried to push and get things done to make the older guys move faster and then they became the older guys and people like me and mark and others behind them started pushing and now they are younger than us. the key is that julian never stopped. from youth to middle age to elderly, he understood that movements are not about what age

you are, it's that if you're committed, your life will fight to the end. he fought to the end. he fought a good fight and made america better. i'm glad we have that model in julian bond. may he rest in peace because he gave us a lot of peace in life. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton, "hardball" starts now. trump wants immigrants out of the country z that include the man you're calling an illegal immigrant, does that include the president of the united states? let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. the man has a plan for 11 million immigrants, send t