and tribal nations, he's been very clear from day one where he stands, not only on keystone, but on the expansion of tar sands, and he's against the big pipeline trying to cross through farmers' land in iowa. >> thank you for your time tonight. "politicsnation" with the reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> right now on "politicsnation," donald trump versus the constitution. you gotta hear what trump, the lawyer, says about why some people born here shouldn't be citizens. also, emotional new testimony from the accuser in the prep school rape case. and even democratic allies new criticizing hillary clinton's campaign. president obama going to new orleans ten years after katrina. welcome to "politicsnation."

we begin with donald trump and the radical way he's shifted the debate on immigration. trump plans to hold a town hall meeting in new hampshire later today, and sure to be major topic of conversation is his call to ban citizenship for babies born in the u.s. to undocumented parents. >> i don't think they have american citizenship, and if you speak to some very good lawyers, and i know some would disagree, but many of them agree with me. you'll find they do not have american citizenship. we have to start a process where we take back our country. our country is going to hell. we have to start a process, bill, where we take back our country. >> the 14th amendment guarantees citizenship to everyone born in the united states. but i guess trump knows better than the constitution. and more and more of his fellow candidates are taking up the

issue. >> it doesn't make any sense to me that people can come in here and have a baby and that baby becomes an american citizen and allows them to come in. >> birth right citizenship is sort of a forgiveness. you break a law, come here and have a child, we say, that's fine, the child is here now, the child is a citizen. i think if you have an open border, that's a mistake. >> we should end granding automatic birth right citizenship to the children of those who are here illegally. >> this won't be going away anytime soon. one reason, trump isn't going away. a new poll finds him closing the gap in a head to head match-up with hillary clinton. he's down just six points against the democratic front-runner. the republican base like what donald trump's saying on immigration. so we're going to be hearing a lot more of it. we'll be covering this story

from all angles. msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt is covering donald trump in new hampshire. also with me is msnbc chief legal correspondent ari mel ba. thank you all for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> let me start with you, kasie, how much will trump talk about his immigration proposal tonight? >> well, reverent, it's part of his, to the extent he has a standard campaign speech, it's a big part of it. it's an issue he talks a lot about. so i think he'll have words for the vortss on that subject, but this is billed as a classic new hampshire town hall. so to a certain extent, it will be dictated by the voters. we're not sure how many questions he'll take from voters, but i think you'll hear a cross-section of their concerns. immigration has come up at the new hampshire events that i've

covered in recent months. i think you can also expect to hear a lot about education, common core in particular is another topic that they tend to hit on. so i think it's going to be interesting to see what kind of crowd shows up for trump tonight, how big it is, whether it's typical new hampshire activists. you tend to see the same people come out, no matter what the candidate. there are people in new hampshire who feel like they have to feet every candidate before they have a chance to make up their minds. so i think it's going to be interesting to see whether their interest in his sort of bluster, or whether they're looking more for a traditional type of new hampshire candidate. >> now, kasie, a lot of candidates are up in new hampshire today. but how much is trump dominating the conversation? >> well, reverend, i think he's dominating the conversation that will definitely the media are having. i think a lot of the other candidates here are frustrated by the fact they get question after question about trump and not about what they're saying. i'm not sure for the voters here

that he's 100% dominating the conversation. i was at a john kasich town hall earlier today and he got a question on immigration, he also talked about a wide variety of other issues. isis, social security, education. for the voters here, this is something they're very used to. they do this every four years. they're extremely engaged in the process. and i think that donald trump might find it a little bit more difficult to easily dominate the process here in new hampshire simply because of the quirks that it has all too itself. >> kasie hunt, thank you for your reporting tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> now, let me go to ari mel ba. ari, trump wants to get rid of birth right citizenship, which, by the way, is protected by the 14th amendment. now, what does the 14th amendment actually do? and what does it say that

republicans want to change? >> well, that's the big question, right? legally what that amendment did was roll back the dread scott decision, establish equal protection and due process for all citizens in all states. and as is key, rev, it basically said anyone born here, inside the united states, has natural citizenship. period. end of story. you and i know from covering the news, there are times when statutes or parts of the constitution are vague. what does free speech mean? we can debate that. it's pretty hard, i think, and -- >> it's clear here. >> it's pretty clear. it says, if you are born within the borders, within the united states or on a military base abroad, you're a citizen, period. >> now, in order to change the constitution, to change the 14th amendment, what do you have to do? >> to actually do that, which would be unthinkable, as some have pointed out historically, it was a republican achievement to get the 14th passed and

expand the rights. send it to the congress, have a super majority vote there, and ratification from 3/4 of the states. >> so first, you have to go to the congress, win a vote there and get 3/4 of the states. >> that's right. >> trump was asked if he'd try to get the 14th amendment overturned. i want to play you what he said. >> donald! >> donald! >> woo! >> i think that's not the bite i want. i want to play you, because what he actually said, i think, is very revealing. let me play it here. i think we've got it. >> it's a long process and i think it would take too long. i'd much rather find out whether or not anchor babies are actually citizens. >> why don't you test it out? you should do it tomorrow.

>> we're going to test it out. that's going to happen, bill. >> we're going to test it out. you've got to win a majority of the congress and 3/4 of the states. does mr. trump know what it takes to change a constitutional amendment? i mean, this is the guy leading now for the republican nomination, and six points behind the front-running democrat. >> yeah, i'm not quite sure he totally understands everything it would take. would he hire a team of lawyers at this point to just assess the validity of the 14th amendment? i mean, he has the money. if he wants to spend his money on the lawyers of america, i'm sure we'll be happy to take it from him. but really, if he's trying to run a presidential campaign, that's not the kind of argument 99.99% of candidates want to be having. it's over one of their first policy platforms of the

presidential campaign. >> i think the real issue, we're talking, as you said, about there's no amguty here. there's one factual way to change an amendment. >> that's right. and i think that's what makes this current controversy a little different than others. there are people who want to argue, is building a wall a good idea or not? and you have that policy debate. what he is saying here is something that everyone knows to be true, the 14th amendment expands citizenship. he thinks it's faults or hasn't looked into it enough to realize. he may not be lying, he may be mistaken on the law. the other thing, rev, you've talked about this a let. every change that has occurred to the constitution by amendment regarding citizenship has expanded and protected it. 17 amendments, seven of them do that. for women, for people under 21 in the vietnam era.

and several regarding the discrimination against black americans. to go backwards would be unusual. >> aren't the republicans the ones who claim respect for the law and respect for the constitution, and upholding the constitution? now we're talking about radically changing it and going against what is always done when there is a big attempt to do that? and you're talking about a huge attempt in this case. >> yeah, i've never heard a democratic candidate refer to themselves as a strict constitutionalist, it's always republicans who describe themselves -- republicans and conservatives who describe themselves that way. and another thing about donald trump's immigration platform, the amount of money it would take to build this so-called wall, i think once republicans see the price tag on that, they might think twice about that too. >> i guess what i'm saying, ari, is he being serious, or is he

playing to his base, really knowing that what he's saying can't happen, and just using all kinds of inflammatory things that he thinks will get his base riled up, that he knows is really not even within the realm of the possible? >> well, i think this issue shows the combination of donald trump, the entertaining and controversial speaker, to your point, saying things about immigration, about so-called anchor babies that he knows will resonate with part of the republican base and also partly, donald trump the businessman, when you look at a contract and you want it to say something different and you have billions of dollars to spend, you hire a group of lawyers and you start pushing back, just like people hire lobbyists, that's true in american life, it works well for him in business. it's not true when you go into constitutional law. when he says, i'm going to have my lawyers look into it, like that would change over a hundred years of precedence. >> the right-wing media loves it. this is working wonderfully for

the right-wing media. let me show you. >> it's a dream list for many who have wanted immigration reform for a long time. >> the immigration plan of his, especially the law, that's common sense. >> he would end the practice of granting u.s. citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants. bye-bye, anchor babies. and i'm telling you, that one has people standing up and cheering. >> i mean, they love it, and they're selling this like this can be easily done. i may not agree with their politics, but i at least respect the people that i disagree with. i don't know how you respect your listeners, when you act as something is just so easily changed, or that you can just build a wall with an abra ka dabra kind of policy. >> it is absolutely unrealistic. and you'd like to think these radio hosts who are talking

about this, know enough with the ramifications and the process to change the 14th amendment or the price tag to build a wall across the entire mexican border. but republicans are touting this right now, one year from now, are they really going to be wanting to talk about repealing the 14th amendment? i highly doubt it. i mean, this is a very controversial issue in the general election and with the booming latino population, especially along the sun belt, this will be an issue that will really make them angry, i think will drive turn-out and benefit democrats in the end. >> thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. coming up, the man who got famous for selling sandwiches, now infamous for accusations of child porn. the shocking details ahead. plus, the drip, drip, drip of hillary clinton's e-mail. clinton's lawyer now weighing in, and so is james carville.

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>> coming up, major developments in two legal stories. a girl who says she was raped at a prestigious prep school, testifies about the secret date that she says turned into an

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it's time now for the justice files. we start with developing news. stay two of the testimony in the new hampshire prep school rape trial. it puts the culture of one of the nation's most exclusive schools in the headlines. st. paul's graduate owen le breed sat in court today as the

teenage girl who accused him of rape detailed what she says she remembers. we altered her voice for her privacy. >> i didn't want any of this. i was so confused. i didn't know what else i could do. i had already said no, and i had already moved his face physically. i didn't know what else he could understand from that. >> prosecutors say la breed raped her, when he was a senior and she was a freshman. they say it was part of a contest about seniors having sex with freshmen. the statement it is in part, currently allegations about our culture are not emblematic of

our school or values. la breed has told police, they were messing around, but says he experienced a moment of, quote, divine inspiration, and stopped himself from having sex. joining me now, karen desoto and judge eric guster. thank you both for being here. >> hi, reverend. >> thank you. >> let me ask, day two, the accuser was on the stand. how effective is that? >> oh, very effective. here statement is what is going to be the basis for the entire prosecution's case. meaning, she's a young girl. she's telling about what happened. and of course the jurors are going to be thinking in the back of their head and also the defense counsel, why would somebody lie about something this horrendous, this disturbing? so her testimony is, in fact, the crux of the case. >> now, the accused, la breeze

said they did not have sex, but a high point today was when the accuser read messages, text messages, that were sent -- that they had shared back and forth after they met. listen to this. >> what is the next message the defendant sends to you? >> he says to me, are you on the pill? >> what do you answer? >> nope. >> what's his next message? >> this confused me a lot. he said praise jesus. >> and then it's the next message, does that continue from the defendant? >> yes, it did. >> can you read those two together? >> praise jesus, i put it on like halfway through. >> now, how does the defense deal with that after he said they didn't have sex. >> the defense's argument, they have to choose a defense whether

they had sex or not, or whether it was consensual. was there a lack of sex or consensual sex. was that coming in, were you on the pill, i'm glad you're on the pill. that means sexual intercourse is imp plied. so the jury has to take that information and decide whether they believe the intercourse was consensual. if they had sex. because in these rape cases, you have to make an airport affirmative defense, this is exactly what happened. the jury want to know exactly what your point is. >> but do you take some things away from your argument of consensual, when you first said, you never had sex at all? >> well, in this particular case, it's been reported that there's physical evidence as well with this young girl. so it may be one of those cases that he's a young man. they'll put him on the stand and he'll say, i said i didn't have sex with her, not because i

raped her, but because i was scared and i'm a kid. >> let's move on to another developing story. the former subway spokesman is accused of sexually exploiting children. prosecutors say jared fogle will plead guilty to having child pornography and traveling to pay for sex with minors. according to federal court documents, he had images with victims as young as approximately 6 years old. it also says he asked several people to provide him access to minors as young as 14 years old to pay for sex. one of them was a 16-year-old girl. investigators say he had sex with police -- that he had sex with this young girl. police had a clear message today. >> your fame and fortune will not protect you from attacking those most vulnerable in our communities. i cannot think of anything more repugnant than sexually

victimizing a child. >> fogle's attorney explained what will come next. >> jared also knows he has a medical problem. he's already sought evaluation by a world-class psychiatrist. jared fogle expects to go to prison. he will do his time. he expects to get well. >> subway just tweeted jared fogle's actions are inexcusable and do not represent our brand's values. we had already ended our relationship with jared. karen, federal agencies, commuters and dvds from fogle's home in july, one month later he's pleading guilty. what, if anything, do you make of this? >> well, it sounds like it was a slam dunk for the prosecution in this case. obviously they had a smoking gun. they had the information, maybe from an unidentified witness, but also they had his computer. so there's pressure for him to plead out, or the case could

have drawn on. and i'm sure there probably could have been dozens more counts with this complaint given that we already know of 14 different counts and they might have added more. there might have been pressure to give him a plea to get this over with quickly. >> how well is saying that he's sick and seeking help and expecting to go to jail, how will that play into his sentence? >> everyone who is caught is seeking help. whether they were caught with drugs, they're seeking help. sexual intercourse with minors, they're seeking help. >> and don't forget, they always find god. >> with the bible in their pocket. as defense lawyers, we have to mitigate all the damages against our client. try to minimize a person's sentence. he's facing a minimum of five years, up to 12 and a half. so they're trying to keep him out of prison as long as they can and try to minimize the sentence, and saying he's seeking out.

>> he's sick, it's a disease, it's an illness. >> well, it's an appalling situation and a great fall from grace. it's just one of those things you just can't really get your head around. >> it's just nasty. >> and to use his public persona to do it. he used the fact that he was jared. >> thank you both for your time. >> thank you. ahead, if you can't beat trump, then be more like trump. it's a new strategy for the 2016 gop candidates. plus, a democratic senator blasts a proposed intern's dress code for blaming the victims of sexual harassment. start shoppin. ...from a list of top rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. the possibility of a flare swas almost always on my mind. thinking about what to avoid,

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did you swipe the service? >> like with a cloth or something? i don't know how it works digitally at all. >> hillary clinton responding to questions about her personal e-mail server. and today, more headlines and more pressure. clinton's lawyer sent a letter saying the server no longer contains data from secretary clinton's private e-mail account. but her next challenge may involve reaching out to some of her own supporters. politico reports, some long-time allies are worried she's learned little from past scandals and is falling back on her tendency to mount a legalistic defense that encourages perceptions she has something to hide. late today her campaign conceded that the e-mail controversy is an issue. >> we do think that people have questions about this. it's a very confusing topic, and

i think as you've seen over the last couple of weeks, we have changed our strategy, and that we are trying to do more education. hillary addressed this directly in her remarks in iowa last week. she takes a lot of questions from you all on it. so we do think people have concerns and questions and we want to -- we think it's really confusing and want to answer them. >> and it may be taking a toll with voters. a new poll shows bernie sanders making big gains. cutting clinton's lead by 25% in two months. hard times for the clinton camp. but is it just a blip, or is it drip, drip, drip? joining me now are erin mcfive, jimmy williams and amy holm. thank you all for being here tonight. erin, clinton's allies are

getting worried. is her campaign now waking up to it? >> i really don't think so, based on that comment that you just played from jen palmieri. think about this old adage. when you're explaining, you're losing. and they're continuing on this strategy that they've been trying for the last five months. i've heard a lot of people say polls don't matter. but you've got to look at the trend line for her poll numbers, because over the last five months, she's gone down and down and down. and bernie sanders has come up. we probably wouldn't be talking about joe biden and a potential candidacy this fall if she weren't in trouble. >> is she in trouble, jimmy? >> i would suggest we are a year and something out from an actual election. i would suggest we are many months away from primaries. i would also suggest that, yes, erin is right about the trend lines. that's a true statement. but if you look at the women voters, women are still overwhelmingly with her, republican women, independent women, and democratic women.

at this point, i have no concerns about this. do i wish, yes, that hillary clinton would get out and she would do sort of a bill clinton statement and say, i, like every other secretary of state used a privacy e-mail account. i used a private server like rick perry and i gave up all my e-mails, jeb bush has not done that. that would go a long way. >> why won't she do that? >> because her campaign is not letting her do that, and perhaps she is deciding not to do that. if i were advising here, i don't do political campaigns, that's what i would advise her to do. >> amy, is she in trouble? >> of course she's in trouble. dropped nine points since last the month. she's under 50 among democratic voters, we're talking about her own constituency, and you played her own campaign spokeswoman, trying to address this in this

round-about way. i would disagree that she's being legalistic. she's being dishonest. and she's said a number of dishonest things, that she had one device, then she had an ipad, and blackberry and reverend, your own chuck todd of nbc said three letters could change this. fbi. they're investigating her e-mail server. and let's dispense with the euphemism that it was wiped clean. she was getting rid of evidence. as secretary of state, she was required by the federal records act to keep the records and turn them over. >> jimmy, let her finish. >> try, amy, next time you're on to tell us how you really feel. >> go ahead, jimmy. the fact that she's withholding evidence is a lie. she's not withholding any evidence. there's nothing to withhold

evidence from. there's no investigation by any criminal authority, group if you will. the fbi is looking into an inquiry. nothing more, nothing else. by using the words fbi -- >> i was quoting chuck todd of nbc. >> i love chuck todd very much, but the fact of the matter is, the fbi has not charged her her prosecuted her or indicted her. using the fbi is dishonest on your part -- >> jimmy, are you going to address the fact that hillary clinton has not been honest about her e-mail use? >> you guys have been using this since september 11th, 2011. you've been using benghazi over and over, now you used fbi. >> i didn't say it once. you just said it. >> let's get back to the politics while our colleagues calm down a little. i like a little heat, though. let me bring some politics in here. washington post spoke to one former adviser to president

obama, who said, quote, she isn't as natural a politician as barack obama or bill clinton, but that's like saying scottie pippen isn't as talented as michael jordan or magic johnson. she's as good or better than just about everyone in the current gop field. isn't this kind of a backhanded compliment? i mean, it seems like even supporters are disappointed in hillary clinton's skills as a campaigner. >> yeah. i think there are a lot of democrats who would say that she is not the best campaigner there is. she never has been. and barack obama was better than she was in 2007 and 2008. there's not a better democratic campaigner in the field -- >> hold it right there. donald trump is just walked out and taking questions from reporters in new hampshire. let's listen. >> -- nabisco. so if i were involved with

mexico at a high level or the head of mexico, i would be saying the same thing. look, we have to straighten out our country. our country is a mess. and whether it's china or mexico or japan, we have to straighten out our country. i'd be saying the same thing, yes. >> donald, yes or no, do you think american born children of undoumed immigrants should be deported? >> here's the story -- >> yes or no. >> i don't give yes or no. it's not that easy. it's a horrible situation that we've placed ourselves in. we have thousands and thousands of illegal immigrants in our country, not only taking jobs, but many of them are causing problems beyond belief. and you see that all over. we have to straighten out the problem with illegal immigration. it starts with getting the bad ones, you know the gangs in -- you saw it -- the gangs in baltimore. you know that, right?

did you see the people? you have illegal immigrants in many cases. in chicago, illegal immigrants. the bad ones are getting out fast. day one. if i win, day one of my presidency, we're getting them out, and we're getting them out fast. over a period of time, we're going to work on numerous things. the first thing is building a wall, which mexico will pay for. okay? we're going to build it. i know how to do it. it's going to be a real wall, not a toy wall, like we have right now that's ten feet tall, and it's a fence. going to have a real wall. and people are going to come into our country, and i want people to come in. i want people of great talent to come in. but i want a lot of people to come in. they have to come in legally. if we don't have them come in legally, we don't have a country. we don't have borders, we don't have a country. they have to come in legally. i want them to come in, they

have to come in legally. all right, go ahead, david. >> you want to build a wall, and if you build a wall, why worry about -- [ inaudible ] you'll keep illegal immigrants out -- >> there's a very big -- there's a very big question as to the anchor babies. they've been talking about it for years. there's a very big question as to whether or not the 14th amendment actually covers this. we'll find out whether or not it does. changing the 14th amendment would take years and years. the long, drawn-out process. a lot of people think that it is absolutely in terms of anchor babies, that it is not covered. so we'll find out. but look, here's the story, here's what happens. wait a minute, wait, wait, wait. here's what's happening. a woman is going to have a baby. they wait on the border. just before the baby, they come over to the border, they have the baby in the united states. we now take care of that baby,

social security, medicare, education. give me a break. it doesn't work that way. the parents have to come in legally. now, we'll have to find out what's going to happen from a court standpoint. but many people, many of the great scholars say that anchor babies are not covered. we're going to find out. yes. yes. >> there was a conference today with other candidates here about the federal government's intrusiveness -- [ inaudible ] >> well, i think large portions can be. i'm not a common core person. jeb bush wants common core. i want local education, and i think large groups, and large portions can be shut down, absolutely. i have no question about that. you look at the department of education, they've done such a

poor job. we're number 25 or 26 or 28 or 32 depending which you look at, in the world. we spend -- the one thing we're number one at, and that's a definite number one. we spend more money per student than any country anywhere in the world. and we're way above number 25 in the world. so we are terrible at education. but we spend far more money than anybody else. the department of education has done a terrible job. i happen to be a person that does not believe in common core. i believe the people of new hampshire, locally, locally, should work mostly on the education. do we allow little pieces? yes. but largely, it should be shut down. i'm very surprised to hear that other of the candidates don't want it touched because that really does surprise me. say it again.

[ inaudible question ] >> have i gotten under jeb bush's skin? i don't know. i will tell you this. you mentioned the word skin. he said the other day, one of the dumber things i've heard ever in politics, when talking about iraq. that we, the united states, he said, have to show them that we have skin in the game in order to go into iraq. we've lost $2 trillion, thousands of lives, wounded warriors who i love all over the place, and he's talking about we have to show them that we have skin in the game? and every time a shot is fired they run? because there practically is no iraq. an iraq, whatever that is, is being taken over by iran after us spending trillions in lives and warriors, and wounded warriors. for him to say that we have to show them that we have skin in the game is one of the really dumb statements.

i'd say his other dumb statement is an act of love, that they come here for an act of love. and i would say, between common core, his act of love on immigration, and skin in the game with iraq, that's the third one that we've now added, i don't see how he's electable. and on top of that, he talks about women's health issues and he's against women's health. he then comes back a few hours later and says he misspoke, but he's bad on women's health issues. nobody's going to be better on women's health issues than donald trump. >> you seem to see the world fairly clearly divided as winners and losers. >> no, i don't. at all. i have a much bigger heart than other people and frankly than any of the candidates i've heard so far. >> have you ever failed? >> excuse me? >> have you ever failed? >> not often. you want to know the truth, have

i failed, not often. >> -- allegedly beating up a hispanic homeless man. >> who was? >> two men were arrested for allegedly beating up a hispanic man, they told cops it was okay because you were right on immigration. are you worried you're inciting violence? >> i don't know anything about death threats or megyn kelly. i haven't heard that. >> there are reports she's been threatened by your supporters. >> i have no idea about that. in all fairness -- excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. take it easy. i have no idea about death threats for megyn kelly. >> what about the brothers? >> i haven't heard about that. i think it would be a shame, but i haven't heard about it. i will say, the people that are following me are very passion e passionate. they love this country. they want this country to be great again and they are passionate. i will say that and everybody here has reported it.

yes, go ahead. no, go ahead. what do i think about what? [ inaudible ] >> i think heidi klum is a very nice person. go ahead. >> have you heard about the secret deal with iran -- [ inaudible ] >> i think it's crazy. the whole iran deal is the dumbest deal that you can imagine. i think it's going to go down as one of the worst deals in the history of this country, maybe of the world. it is a total and complete catastrophe. you know, it's beyond even talking about. it's hard to believe that people actually -- do we have negotiators? do we have anybody that knows what they're doing? not only the 24 days, which by the way, it's much more than that, because the 24 days to start the talk takes a long time. not only the fact that they still have our prisoners, every single aspect of that deal is incompetent. it shouldn't be approved. even if it's not approved now, they get $150 billion plus, plus, and they're going to use

that money for terror all over the world. it is one of the great dumb deals of our time. [ inaudible ] >> i'm not surprised. i'm not surprised to hear there are side deals. the white house doesn't know what they're doing. that's been proven, whether it's obamacare with a $5 billion website. the white house truly has no clue what they're doing and the iran deal is a disaster. it's a disaster. it's going to lead to, in my opinion, nuclear proliferation, so many things are going to come out of that for the bad. israel is in big trouble. probably something will happen. i don't know how israel can live with that deal. >> martin o'malley was in las vegas for an event with some of the employees at your hotel,

trying to get them to unii unionize -- >> i know nothing about him. he's got less than 1%. i did see my building in las vegas. tallest building, i'm very proud of it, most beautiful building. we've won, let me say a nicer word, we've won with the employees. we have employees that love us and have decided not to go union. they love me, they love us. martin o'malley was there to try to get publicity which he desperately needs. and i think he was the one that said that lives don't matter, white lives don't matter. i mean, is he the one that apologized almost in tears because he made a mistake of saying? is that the same martin o'malley that we're talking about? he should be ashamed of himself. but i heard he was in front of one of my buildings to get some publicity and i think it was in

las vegas. yes? [ inaudible question ] >> no, i would not. i have great respect for ted cruise. he's been very wantive supporti some of my tough stances and he's done well. guys like perry and our senator lindsey graham, he's gotten zero. how do you get zero? but the people that attacked me, now rand paul is going down the tubes and he hit me all of a sudden. he was doing poorly. he hit me, he went down. one of the greatest honors, everybody who attacks me seems to go down. ted cruz and carson who's been really terrific, they have been great. a few of the others have been great. meaning, we all get along. we should get along. but some of them attacked me fairly viciously, and when they attack, you have to attack back.

who? >> carly? >> she's a very nice woman. she really is. [ all speak at once ] >> go ahead. >> james foley. >> yes, i know his parents very well. [ inaudible ] >> do you spend more time about thinking about isis? >> i would defeat isis and i'm okay with what he said, but i would defeat isis. the whole james foley thing, i was up here a year ago making a speech for joe mcwade and the group in honor of the foley family and i got to know his parents very well. made a contribution to the foundation. james foley was a fantastic young man, and we can't let that

happen. we can't let that happen. we have to stop it. and we have to stop it fast. and we have to stop it now. i sort of explained that view strongly, and i would cut off big sources of their financing. go ahead. by the way, both at the bank level and at the oil level. go ahead. >> in 2012 -- [ inaudible ] >> i don't think i'm mean-spirited. we have to get back our country. look, our country is going down. we have to get back our country. it's based on laws. these are illegal -- people like to say undocumented because that's politically correct. i don't say that. these people came in illegally. some are excellent, fantastic, wonderful. but they have to go out. they can come back in, but they have to come in legally. we can expedite the process. i think that's fine, i like that. and then you have some really bad ones, the gangs, you got

gangs roving, hurting people, killing people. you look at what happened to kate in san francisco. so we have to be able to get the bad, we got bad dudes out there. bad ones. and we'll get them out so fast. let me tell you, if i'm president, we'll get them out of here so fast, you're head's gonna spin. >> you said that you have a big heart. and that you're not mean-spirited. are you aware that the term anchor babies, that's an offensive term. >> you mean it's not politically correct and everybody uses it? give me a different term, what would you like me to say? i'll use the word anchor baby. go ahead. >> mr. trump, do you believe that -- [ inaudible ] >> no, not at all. oh, boy, would i be a smart person then.

[ inaudible ] >> he wasn't wealthy, no. was he wealthy? he let us down. mitt romney let us down. he should have won that election. he failed. he choked. in the end, no different than a golfer that misses a putt on the 18th hole. no different than a man who strikes out a baseball player. he let us down. mitt romney should have won that election, and he didn't. something happened to him. and that's not going to happen to me. [ inaudible ] >> i don't know. i can tell you this, he disappeared at the end. he just disappeared. say what you want about obama, he was on jay leno, he was on letterman, he was on all the shows. i called up, i said why aren't you doing more television? obama's on every show, where are you? he just disappeared. something happened. honestly, i think he choked. okay?

[ inaudible ] -- when are we going to hear about -- >> i actually saw a doctor, had a physical the other day, and they said, you are really good. you can all hear it, would you like to hear it? i would do that anytime, yeah, very good. [ inaudible ] >> he was 88 years old when he developed it and he died at 94. >> do you have any concerns? >> no. not whatsoever. he was 88. my mother was 88, 89, and she was in amazingly great health. and my father too, was in great health. they lived long lives. yes? >> mr. trump, you said earlier in the press conference you would support women's health. do you think some other candidates are out of touch? >> well, i think jeb bush is totally out of touch on women's health issues, totally. because he said he wasn't going to fund it. he came back after his pollster told him, oh, you made a

mistake. he came back a few hours later and said he misspoke. but i'll be very, very strong, very powerful on women's health issues. [ inaudible ] >> who do i see as strongest? you know, it changes. the only thing constant is trump. all of them change. on the bottom, they're going up and down like yo-yos. am b but i've been up there are if a long time, and i hope i'm going to be up there for a long time. i read a lot of the phony reports. when donald trump gets tired of doing this -- i'm not going anywhere, folks. i'm not doing this for my health. i'm doing this to make america great again. and "again" is a very important word. i'm not going anywhere. i'm not going anywhere. got a lot of money. i don't need people funding me. like the other candidates.

i have people coming up all the time, wanting to give me millions -- $5 million last week i turned down from one man. i said, i don't want your money. i think that resonates with people. i really think it resonates with people. >> one more question, guys. >> excuse me? well, sanctuary cities, it is a disgrace. what happened in san francisco and other places, sanctuary cities should be defunded and gotten rid of. sanctuary cities are a disgrace. go ahead. we'll talk about that. go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >> well, somebody wrote an article that i was a whiner, that i complained. and i said, you know, he's actually right. i do complain. because our country is in trouble. we're run by people that either are not smart, perhaps they're in incompetent, perhaps they have a b