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new polls and 'rks. the bernie sanders surge gets fresh momentum in iowa. the only woman in the gop field. will she be part of the main event at the next republican debate or part of the undercard? i'll talk to her deputy campaign manager. police now have a suspect in that execution-style killing of the officer in houston. one big piece of the puzzle remains a mystery at this hour. u.s. obama will go where no other u.s. president has ever gone. why is there controversy surrounding this trip. hey there, everyone. high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. a.m. out west. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." we begin with new polls for the race for the white house. bernie sanders closing in on
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hillary clinton in iowa. he's going up, she's going down. we've got the numbers. and today the senator is doing something he rarely does, call clinton out by name. >> i believe that as opposed to my republican colleagues who want to cut social security, i think we should expand social security by lifting the cap on taxable income. that's not hillary clinton's position. i believe that we've got to raise the minimum wage over a period of several years to 15 bucks an hour, not hillary clinton's position. i voted against the war in iraq. hillary clinton voted for it. >> meantime, on the republican side, donald trump is staying atop the field in iowa. but a man near the bottom, chris christie is grabbing headlines today. he's now proposing a way to track undocumented immigrants like fedex tracks packages. >> this is, once again, a situation where the private sector laps us in the government, with the use of technology. let's use the same type of technology to make sure that the
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40% of the 11 million people over here illegally don't overstay their visas. >> joining me now, democratic pollster, fred yang. good to see you, fred. let's talk about the iowa poll that shows bernie sanders within seven points of hillary clinton. is this because voters are hearing and liking what the senator has to say? or might it be because of hillary clinton's recent troubles with her e-mails? >> i think it's probably more the factor that senator sanders is new. he's a new face, relatively. even in iowa. it's not accurate to think that this somehow means that there's necessarily bad news for mrs. clinton's campaign. in the same iowa poll, she still had a 77% favorable rating. i think this also goes for the republican field, alex. it's still early. there's a lot of fluidity. i think iowans, like americans,
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are still shopping around. the poll that showed the seven-point lead for mrs. clinton, they were confident she would win the nomination. >> this is kind of feeling like 2008. do you think there's concern that iowa could slip away from mrs. clinton? >> i think, yeah. yes, you have to say that having a strong lead in the spring, single digits now, vice president biden might get in. this is a very fluid time. look, every campaign, whether you're hillary clinton or bernie sanders, hits what we call in the business rough patches. she is still very popular. she still have strong constituencies. i think, you know, pronouncing any kind of pronouncements as to what's going to happen in iowa in january, in late august of 2015, there's still a long ways to go in this election. >> i want to look at republicans first. before we get to the numbers,
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what do you make of chris christie's proposal to track undocumented immigrants? or those that are here on visas for a specific amount of time? kind of like a fedex package. >> i think, alex, when you are one of 17 candidates running for the nomination, your party, and you have someone like donald trump basically sucking all of the oxygen out of the news vacuum, you have to say things to get attention. i don't know the merits of this policy. i don't know how practical it is. but this kind of situation for the republicans, again, 17 people, alex, running for president on their side, the only way you're really going to make news as governor christie is showing, you have to say sometimes bold or radical things. and the question for the republican party in general is, look, next year they're going to have a nominee. and does what that person says now to get the nomination, how much does that impact their ability to win the general in november. >> i can't see it as being
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anything other than futerristic sci-fi hollywood movie with chips implanted. let's get to the numbers here. top, no change there. donald trump still leading in the poll. it is ben carson, a former neurosurgeon who is in strong second place. what do you make of that? >> i think, again, alex, when you look in the poll, which is a terrific poll done by ann seltzer who has a tremendous reputation in iowa, the other questions of the poll helped explain trump and carson for the republicans. for example, among republican caucusgoers, 75% of republicans have a negative impression of the republican congress. 91% of republican caucusgoers have a negative impression of politicians. trump and carson are probably as far away from washington politicians as you can get. and they're the two candidates leading the field right now. and i think, alex, for the republicans in particular, trump, carson, other candidates,
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this is really, i think, a revolt against the washington establishment. >> but be that as it may, in terms of the turn-around that trump has had, his favorability, he went from underwater to walking on top. a 61% favorability. it was 63% unfavorable back in may. what is it, despite some of his rhetoric that has turned off a lot of people that allows him to have such a fast turn-around? >> i have to tell you, alex, as unpopular as he was in may, he's popular now today. it's not just the turn-around, alex, in terms of his numbers, it's also -- he was intensely unpopular in may with republicans. he's the opposite now. look, he's a phenomena. i think after a couple months, all of us pundits have to admit he has tapped into something in the american public. again, the question, alex, is, is donald trump a summer fling, or is he someone with
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sustainable power into the fall and early next year? i think he's benefiting right now because it's trump versus 16 republicans. as the field shrinks, is he able to show more growth? i think that is really an open question. >> from the perspective of democrats, who could be the toughest challenge in november 2016? >> i think it's far too early to say that. i think whether you're trump, carson, cruz, rubio, and this goes for the democrats, too, who you are now is different from who you will be a year from now. >> what's interesting to me, fred, three months ago you would have put jeb bush in that consideration. you didn't even mention him today. just an observation. fred, thaks. >> carly fiorina may not be on the stage at the next gop
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debate. maybe it's better to remain in the smaller debate. an arrest has been made in the killing of a sheriff's deputy in texas who was gunned down at a houston area gas station. shannon miles was taken into custody yesterday. he is charged with capital murder in this case. the reason for the shooting remains unclear. >> we have not been able to extract any details regarding a motive at this point. as far as we know, deputy goforth had no previous contact with the suspect. it appears at the outset to be clearly unprovoked. >> jamie is at that gas station where the shooting took place. jamie, good morning to you. what's happening there today? >> reporter: hello, alex. today, the suspect is behind bars. police say his name is shannon miller, he's 30 years old, that he faces capital murder charges. in the meantime, this community is in shock. i'm going to show you that through the day, members of the public have been visiting the
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memorial that sprung up at the gas station here. here is what some people had to say. >> my thoughts are with the fami family. i mean, that's going to be a daily, hourly chore. >> i stopped to pay my respects. i got here and saw all the people, and ladies sitting on the ground over here making ribbons and passing out candles. >> we came to pay our respects and brought some flowers. everybody needs to come together in a time of need to support each other and be there for everybody, black and white. >> reporter: alex, sheriff's deputies are holding a vigil here. darren goforth left behind a wife and two children. the deputies are also with his family and also with his body as it awaits funeral services. authorities say that miles snuck up on goforth as he was gassing up here friday night. they found no apparent motive in the shooting, but in an emotional press conference
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yesterday, they talked about the police shootings of unarmed black men across the country. a fund sprung up for goforth's family. the houston mayor has ordered that all flags be lowered. >> understandably so. what's next for shannon miles? >> reporter: well, he will be arraigned. it is hard to tell whether he's been arraigned yet. that will be next for him. we reached out to the court just this morning. and the court said that to their knowledge, he had not been arraigned. but at times these things can happen inside the jail. so it's hard to tell. but he has been charged. he will be arraigned. and after that, he will be in the hands of the justice system here. >> jamie, thanks so much. new worries about flooding in florida, as remnants of tropical storm erika moved toward the state. the storm lost much of its steam yesterday after slamming the dominican republic with 15 inches of rain, killing at least 20 people and causing major
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damage. meteorologist steve is here for the latest. steve, good day. how much rain could florida get? >> about 3 to 6 inches of rain across a good part of the state. the radar is lit up right now. erika has turned into a good old-fashioned rainstorm for much of central and southern florida right now. what's left is the area of low pressure moving through the keys right now. you can see the bands of rain that are setting up across florida. so it's not raining everywhere. but if you get underneath one of these bands, you can get 2 to 3 inches of rain in an hour. some parts of florida actually need the rain, other parts not so much. we have flood watches in effect for the peninsula of florida. this goes through tomorrow. we're looking at heavy thunderstorms. gainesville saw almost 4 inches of rain last night. unwanted rainfall for central florida. but for south florida, some of this rain is beneficial. they've bng een in a drought fo couple of years now.
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we need the rain to slow down. notice all the yellows and greens here. that's about an inch to two inches of rainfall for a good part of the state. that will be the story through tuesday. the big story across the country, heat. a lot of people thinking september coming, fall sweaters, apple butter, forget about it. a heat wave for the east coast, 90s. get ready to sweat it out this weekend, alex. >> thank you very much, steve. let's head to clearwater, florida. more on the flooding fears caused by what's left of erika. sarah, people concerned there? >> reporter: there are people concerned here. 8,000 members of the national guard are standing by to assist floridians. but this gorgeous day is a fact that seemed puzzling. people out enjoying the water, the beach, and these perfect temperatures right now. all that, however, expected to change late afternoon, early evening when the remnants of
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erika roll through. that moisture is welcomed in parts of the state, which have been experiencing the drought. it's not welcomed here in clearwater, which has been experiencing its third wettest august on record. aquifers already full. the ground saturated by the previous rainstorms. erika's thunderstorms could push some rivers into flood stage. the flood watches expected to remain in effect over the weekend and into monday. also cautioned about the rip currents that are expected to increase as the storms get closer. for now, though, it is the calm before the storm. and as you can see, people making the most of this pretty perfect weather before everything changes later on today. >> it is gorgeous. thank you so much, sarah. in other news now, tragedy at the yankees/braves game in atlanta. a 60-year-old died after falling
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from the upper deck. witnesses say the man fell over a railing. bystanders administered cpr while they awaited for emergency personnel to arrive. >> it happened to my left. and he just came down like a thud. onto the concrete steps. i'm a vascular surgeon, so i ran over there. people were sort of in shock. he looked like he had some serious injuries there. >> unfortunately this is not the first such incident at turner field. two years ago a 30-year-old man fell from an upper section to his death. a california woman has been found alive after being missing for nine days. she was located in a very remote rocky location of the sierra nevada mountains. it took rescue teams a while to reach her because of the heavy smoke from the fire burning nearby. she broke some bones and couldn't hike back to her base camp. she crawled for about two days to a creek where she could scoop
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water into a bottle that had a filter. a surfer got lucky saturday after a great white shark bit a chunk out of her board off california's central coast. the shark swam under her before the attack. she pushed her board toward the shark as she jumped off uninjured. they posted warning signs at nearby beaches. experts estimate that shark was a 6-foot-long male great white. the second gop debate is six weeks away. donald trump, why he wants carly fiorina to be on that stage with him.
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>> carly fiori there, friday on fox news. the next republican debate is two weeks from wednesday, and the only female candidate might not be on the main stage again. that's because cnn's criteria relies on older polls dating back to mid-july. if that holds, it would water down much of the momentum fiorina gained after the first debate. this is the latest real clear politics average of polls. it has fiorina in seventh place, within the top ten range that would get her on the stage. with me now, the deputy campaign manager for the fiorina presidential campaign. sarah, welcome. thanks for joining me. >> thanks so much for having me. >> what sort of conversations have you had with cnn or the rnc to see your perspective on this? >> we're frustrated. we think cnn's model doesn't make a lot of sense. they're going back to polling from july, even though she's been in the top ten in the month of august. we hope the rnc will speak out about this, say they also find this unfair. we hope that cnn will see the
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light here and let her on that main stage. >> thus far, i understand that cnn says rules are rules. the rnc said rules are rules. what kind of options do you really have here? >> what cnn first said is they weren't legally allowed to change the rules. the head of the fcc and said there's no fcc rules that says you can't change your rules at this point. then they changed their minds and said, actually, we didn't raise this soon enough and there was a magical time, particularly in may, where they would have changed the rules if we had said something. they won't tell us when that was or why they didn't tell us at the time. >> we mentioned the clear politics average. the new bloomberg des moines register has carly fiorina in seventh place. how real is the chance with the new polls constantly coming out, that everything will even out in the end and you will make the main stage? >> unfortunately, you're right, that every major poll for the last month has shown carly in the top ten. she's number two in some states. number three in new hampshire, number five in iowa. nationally she's been in the top
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ten in every poll. but cnn is using nine polls from before the first debate, and they're only going to count three from after the debate. >> interestingly, there's certainly a big-time rival on your side here. let's listen to what donald trump said this weekend. >> it's a shame that carly is not on the stage. because from the time of the last debate until now, she's doing better than some of the people who are on the stage. in fairness, i would like to see carly on the stage over some of the people who have not done as well over this shorter period of time. >> any chance your campaign is going to personally petition other candidates to become more vocal about this, and lobby on your behalf? >> i'd love for other candidates to come out and express what they think about this. i think that it's pretty obvious to anyone that cnn's rules are preventing voters from hearing who they want to hear from. again, we've been in the top ten for the entire month. cnn just isn't going to count those polls. >> you know, she got mostly positive reviews after that first so-called happy hour
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debate. coming out number one by many people's estimations. is there any thought she could be helped again, standing out as a winner in the smaller group rather than trying to get a word in with nine others on stage? >> i have no doubt that carly's going to stand out wherever she is, whenever she is. carly is a force to be reckoned with, and she speaks to a lot of voters' frustrations with the political establishment that has failed voters time and time again. that being said, the debate should be a fair process and she should be on the main stage because they said it's for the top ten candidates, which carly clearly is. >> what you just said, i want to talk about the optics of the party excluding for the second time the only female candidate. >> well, i think this isn't so much about carly being female is she's outside the political class. she has the lowest name i.d. going into the first debate. those who have been in politics their whole lives have benefited in terms of that, in terms of this polling. what the first debate allowed
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her to do is introduce herself to a lot of voters, and voters liked what they heard. what's frustrating now is cnn isn't going to count that. >> all right. sarah, deputy campaign manager for that campaign. good to talk to you. thank you very much. >> thank you, alex. president obama is about to do something that no other president has done until now. a live report from the white house next. hey pal? you ready? can you pick me up at 6:30? ah... (boy) i'm here! i'm here! (cop) too late. i was gone for five minutes! ugh! move it. you're killing me. you know what, dad? i'm good. (dad) it may be quite a while before he's ready, but our subaru legacy will be waiting for him. (vo) the longest-lasting midsize sedan in its class. the twenty-fifteen subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan. it's a subaru.
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washed ashore near olympic park. the fish most likely died because of insufficient oxygen because of pollutants. it's been in the spotlight after showing dangerously high levels of viruses at human sewage at all rio olympic venus. a suspect is in custody after the killing of a deputy sheriff. they're still searching for a motive. authorities are calling it an execution style shooting of deputy goforth at a local gas station. >> we have not been able to extract any details regarding a motive at this point. as far as we know, deputy goforth had no previous contact with the suspect. and it appears at the outset to be clearly unprovoked. at this moment as of this morning, our assumption was he was a target because he wore a uniform.
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>> let's bring in the director of the black law enforcement alliance. mark, good to see you. thanks for joining me. >> good to be here, alex. >> what happened in texas proves to be a random attack on a police officer, what impact will this have on the already strained relationship between the police and public? >> there will be a continuation of that strained relationship and exacerbation, especially given some of the comments made by both the police chief and prosecutor. a lot of times, even in the midst of grief, a lot of these comments will tend to exacerbate the situation to downplay them. i think we have to be very carol about doing that. on both sides, i think both those individuals who call for reform and who are protesting certain aspects of law enforcement, looking to improve law enforcement, and the law enforcement professionals themselves. but i do think overall, we have to be consider at ality of the that people are in the midst of grief and loss of a family member.
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so the comments could be attributed to that as well. >> we covered that news conference live yesterday, but i want to have anybody who missed that to listen to what the d.a. and sheriff hickman had to say about that. it did get passionate. let's take a listen. >> at any point where the rhetoric ramps up, this rhetoric has gotten out of control. we heard black lives matter. well, cops' lives matter, too. let's just say lives matter, and drop the qualifier. >> he makes a point there. can you hold a movement responsible for the act of an individual? >> no. i really have to attribute, i'm hoping that these comments made by the sheriff, and subsequently made by the prosecutor as well, are the grief they're experiencing as opposed to what is pert nept in this situation here. remember, there's a family, and there's a larger family of law enforcement, of which i am
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included in that, that is grieving at this point. and in tremendous pain. so i think a lot of times we have to chalk up these comments and these out-of-context comments more to grief than anything else. it's similar, if you will, to some of the comments made by -- in new york by the union president for the execution deaths of police officers liu and ramos, talking about the blood on the hands of the mayors. there's a lot of passion and relate oh rick, but it's really a result of the tremendous amount of grief faced by the family, the community and law enforcement. >> yeah. it, though, marq, has been a violent summer. look at washington, d.c. that's had 105 homicides so far this year, equal to the entire amount in 2014. why do you think it's been such a deadly year so far, a deadly summer? >> there's a lot of room for conversation on the causes of violence. the impetus of violence. whether it's related to a lot of
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the social movement that's going on in the country, whether it's related to law enforcement apathy on some levels. when you examine at what occurred in baltimore, there's discussion whether there was a pullback from police officers as a result of some of the protests and comments and the movement towards reform. which is a huge issue here. but there are so many socioand economic issues for a lot of the violence and victimation going on in the community. there is not one answer for it, it's not simplistic, that's why it involves a multi-disciplined approach to addressing both violence in general, and gun violence in particular. >> i want to bring up one point, though, because how much does it have to do with the fact that people can guns pretty easily? there are about 3 million firearms in the hands of the public. how much does the availability of guns affect the homicide rate? >> i think it has a lot to do with the homicide rate.
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i think what the nation has to do is come up with a comprehensive and concise plan that really relates to all 50 states, so to speak. it's difficult to monitor, or to regulate guns in this particular case when you have 50 different rules throughout the states. and it's difficult to impact the flow of traffic. and also, it's also difficult to change minds and perceptions of certain individuals. i'm not anti-gun. i'm not pro-gun necessarily. but i believe in responsible ownership. i think it's important information people to engage in that dialogue. and for legislators to legislate a national policy so we're clear and concise and we can begin to address those areas where there is a proliferation of illegal handguns and gun violence. >> okay. marq, i've known you so long, i get to use marquez.
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>> you can call me anything you want, alex. thank you so much. >> thanks. president obama travels to alaska to address the growing threat of climate change. >> alaska's governor recently told me four villages are in imminent danger and have to be relocated. already rising sea levels are beginning to swallow one island community. think about that. if another country threatened to wipe out an american town, we would do everything in our power to protect ourselves. climate change poses the same threat right now. >> nbc's kristen welker is at the white house for us. good day to you, kristen. what is the ultimate goal of this three-day trip? >> reporter: hey, alex. good afternoon. significant trip, the president is going to spend the next few days highlighting the impact of globe climate change. and as part of that effort, he will talk to the coastal villagers whose lives and homes are going to be impacted. he will also speak at a conference on the arctic, while
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there in alaska, and this is significant because it's the first visit to the alaskan arctic by a sitting president. it fits in with his larger, more aggressive push we've seen in recent months and, frankly, over the past several years to bring about new climate change policy. we heard about him talk about this in a stop in las vegas last week. he said, quote, no challenge poses a greater threat to our future than climate change. but of course, the president also has a fine line to walk in alaska. alaska is deeply de pep dent on the oil industry. look at these stats. it produces 300,000 barrels of oil per day. that up to 90% of the state's revenue. so he's going to have to walk that fine line. the president is going to be pushing for greater climate control in the hopes of setting the stage, really, for a major international climate change agreement that he hopes will come from a december summit in paris. now, recently, you'll recall, alex, that the president put in place and called for the
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first-ever national standards to cut carbon emissions from power plants. that would require states over the next 15 years to cut carbon dioxide emissions by 32%. a lot of legal challenges there. environmentalists say this is all a good first step, but that the president needs to go further. they expressed a lot of concern that a few weeks ago the obama administration gave approval to shell oil to drill in the alaskan arctic. so he will probably have to address that while in alaska. this is a very contentious issue. a debate that will extend well beyond the president's trip to alaska. this will be a big issue on the 2016 campaign trail as well. >> he has 16 months to secure his position as an environmental president. >> reporter: indeed. chris christie, the criticism of his plan to track foreigners with help from fedex. the signs are everywhere. the lincoln summer invitation is on. get exceptional offers on the luxury small utility mkc.
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surprise visit by vice president joe biden in his home state of delaware. biden's appearance is adding to the growing speculation about whether he'll join the race, and comes at a time when a new poll shows him gaining traction in iowa. joining me is tom davis, former virginia congressman. and political analyst and contributor to "essence" magazine. ladies first here with you, zirlynna. he made the appearance to thank the community for their support during these past couple of difficult months. anything more to read into the appearance, given all the questions surrounding the vice president in a white house run, do you think there's more to it than that? >> it's still hard to tell. i think that obviously the president -- or the vice president is looking seriously at a 2016 run. but as long as the democratic establishment, and what i mean is, endorsements, right? all of these endorsements coming out this week and this month
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supporting hillary clinton shows that the democratic establishment at least is very much still behind hillary clinton, and i honestly think that if you look at the polling, while joe biden does poll pretty strongly against bernie sanders and hillary clinton, he's not in the race yet and he's not facing criticism from the media, and negative headlines. so i think right now, it's hard to say how strongly a candidate he will be if he's actually in the race and facing all of the scrutiny that comes with running for president. >> congressman, another thing to add to that, some political operatives, many hillary clinton supporters as well, suggest it's too late for vice president biden to jump in. that the campaign architecture, so to speak, is not there. do you agree? >> it's better to jump in earlier at this point. but the vulnerability she has shown to date i think make it possible for somebody to get in. the population can move very, very quickly. the voters can move very quickly, even away from infrastructure if things go bad.
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she has an appearance before the house committee october 22nd. this could be a very, very critical time for her if she wants to resurrect this candidacy. >> then, congressman, on the republican side, this week's poll, shows donald trump still leading in iowa. he also won the straw poll in nashville with more than 50% of the vote vote. i spoke with mat trick murray yesterday, and this was his take on trump's popularity. >> what they're saying is you don't need somebody presidential. >> but he can still be president? >> right. maybe we need a bar bouncer as president is what i'm hearing. i spent about a week out in iowa. and i was talking to voters out there, and there was a real dichotomy between two different types of voters, who are trump voters, someone who's tough and mean and can go in and kick butt, basically, and then those who want somebody outside of politics, maybe a ben carson or
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carly fiorina, and would not actually back trump. >> that assessment about donald trump, a guy not really presidential, but kind of got the temperament of a bar bouncer, and somebody want somebody to get something done. do you agree with that? >> i think he's somebody who will throw the brick through the plate glass window, which is what a lot of the voters want, really, in both parties. what they have seen is bad results over the last few years. i think that's part of bernie sanders' appeal on the democratic side. he's very anti-establishment, even though he's been in washington. i don't know if it is either left or right, but it is anti-establishment. the republican party has moved to a more populist party as it gravitates to the social issues over the last decade. a different party than the bushes are used to. there's still plenty of time for this stuff to sort out. >> plenty of time still. zelina, i want you to listen to the reactions hillary clinton
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and donald trump had this week. >> let me answer one of your questions, because i think that's what you are entitled to. >> when ramos got up the other day, screaming and ranting and going crazy, and i had all these reporters, actually, the reporters were mostly on my side because they had their hands up. this guy started screaming. i had liberal people from cbs, i said to the cbs guy, yes? i actually got a lot of credit for the way we handled him. i didn't do anything like -- i didn't do anything. >> so, hillary clinton got a lot of backlash over her reaction, but not so much for donald trump.
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>> people watching are thinking, what's the difference between hillary clinton and donald trump? if a woman is very forceful with the press, that comes across as brusque or unfavorable. when donald trump does it, he's seen as a leader and very strong. i think that's something that's underlying the course of this campaign. going back to trump, kicking jorge ramos out of a press conference i think is one of the most significant things that has happened at this point in the campaign. i think if you're kicking out essentially the latino walter cronkite, and the latinos are the second most populous group in the united states. if you're trying to win an election, you don't kick jorge ramos out of a press conference. that is a big misstep. i think trump should be criticized greatly for that, just because of the disrespect, even if jorge did not raise his hand in that particular moment, he was asking substantive questions. >> he certainly got criticism, that's for sure.
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hillary clinton, as you know, not the only one having similar exchanges with a reporter. so has jeb bush. so congressman, do you think donald trump is the one setting the tone and the one driving all of this? >> he's sucking all the oxygen out of the room when he comes in. remember this, trump's mantra is he's the anti-establishment candidate. hillary clinton is very much the establishment candidate. and how you treat reporters and everything else. they're really different models. i don't think it has anything to do with her being a woman. but trump is not politically correct, he'll shake things up. i think throwing this guy out of the press conference, frankly, helped him with the primary voters that he's trying to cater to at this point. >> okay. this is interesting. governor christie made a lot of headlines yesterday for seeming to compare undocumented immigrants to fedex packages. this morning, he is clarifying his comments. so congressman, let's take a listen to this. >> this is, once again, a situation where the private
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sector laps us in the government with the use of technology. let's use the same type of technology to make sure that the 40% of the 11 million people here illegally, don't overstay their visas. we should bring in the folks from fedex with the technology to be able to do it. i don't mean people are packages, so let's not be ridiculous. >> congress m >> congressman, is there pressure to one-up trump? >> we can put men on the moon, we did that decades ago. but we can't keep track of people who enter this country, and they kind of disappear because we don't have the internal controls on that. and the private sector does these kind of things in a complicated way every day, why can't the government. i think that's a good point. but the difficulty is in politics. you're held to a different standard. but i think the point he was trying to make has one a lot of americans can agree with. more "stay" per roll.
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gathering to celebrate the lives of the reporter and her cameraman gunned down on live tv. the outpouring of support comes as the friends of the pair come together to lay them to rest. adam, that community so involved here. what's the reaction today? >> reporter: absolutely. they're beginning to say their final good-byes today, alex. a series of events. i want to show you this growing memorial. more and more people coming to pay their respects, offer their condolences. they feel like they knew alison and adam so much because they were in their home every day. tomorrow there will be an event, a celebration of life for alison. her father wanted the funeral private on tuesday. adam ward will be laid to west. matthew is a colleague, joining me. you mentioned you had a gathering last night. >> great to get together like a big family and swap stories and tell lies. just let it all out. it was absolutely a wonderful
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experience that i'll never forget. >> what are your best memories of alison and adam? >> graciousness. alison, spunky, full of life. had the pleasure a month ago of filling in for adam while he was on vacation, and did his live shots for alison for a whole week. >> pleasure to work with her. >> oh, man. oh, yeah. ad adam, what i remember, i've been telling everybody, i'm kind of a grumpy old man. my younger photographers, i would come in in the morning, the boss is like you've got to get here at 9:30, but you've been out since midnight. but you come in, if i made eye contact with adam, he would sing my name and say, mckeever! i'm going to miss that. >> always full of life. thank you. our condolence sgls thank you. >> alex, there will be an event today. it's a vigil for remembrance and healing. that's at 3:00. one more, vicky gardner, the
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sole survivor, tried to get out of the way by ducking, she was shot in the back. she's doing well after two surgeries, expected to get out of the hospital in about two weeks. very lucky to be alive, alex. >> absolutely, she is. i love that interview, because got a couple fun and touching vignettes there about both adam and alison. thank you very much, adam. a fan falls from the upper deck at a baseball stadium. what went wrong, and was foul play involved. ♪ ♪ it took serena williams years to master the two handed backhand. but only one shot to master the chase mobile app. technology designed for you. so you can easily master the way you bank. they don't worry if something's possible.
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hey there, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." it's 1:00 in the east, 10:00 out west. houston police are searching for a motive in the ambush killing of a sheriff's deputy who was gunned down friday night at an area gas station. shannon miles has been charged with capital murder. the reason for the shooting remains unclear. >> we have not been able to extract any details regarding a motive at this point. as far as we know, deputy goforth had no previous contact with the suspect. and it appears at the outset to be clearly unprovoked. >> my colleague is at the gas station where the shooting took place. jamie, good day. what's happening there today? >> reporter: alex, the suspect, shannon miles, is behind bars. according to authorities, is facing capital murder charges.
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at this hour, according to the county court, he has yet to appear on the docket for arraignment. in the meantime, people have been coming by this gas station to visit the growing memorial in order to pay their respects. authorities say that miles ambushed goforth as he was leaving the convenience store at this gas station. two clerks inside the gas station say that goforth was seated at a row of chairs inside the convenience store, and as he left to walk back towards his car, miles ambushed him. my colleague, jacob rascon, has more on how the community is reacts to the community. >> as we pray, our father -- >> reporter: amid the national conversation about questionable police shootings, this seemed disturbingly clear. >> darren would have given that monster the shirt off his back if he asked for it. he didn't have to do what he did. >> reporter: hundreds of people gathered to honor deputy darren goforth. many who knew him, most here did
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not. >> the callousness of what happened, it's earth shattering. >> reporter: goforth had just finished filling up with gas. surveillance cameras captured what happened next. >> six to eight shots and an officer is down. >> reporter: investigators say shannon j. miles shot him in the back and kept shooting, even after goforth was down. miles now faces capital murder charges. he has a criminal record, but according to the sheriff, didn't know his target. >> why did you feel it was important to show up today? >> because i wanted to demonstrate that all lives matter. >> reporter: the seemingly unprovoked killing brings race back into the conversation. >> it doesn't matter about black and white anymore, it's just, you know, a coming together of people that really matters. and that's what the focus should be about. >> reporter: goforth is remembered as a hero and leaves behind a wife and two children. his wife spoke through a family friend. >> all the language that i know
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is inadequate for what i want to express. my husband was an incredibly intricate blend of toughness and j gentleity. he was always loyal, fiercely so. >> reporter: in the meantime, the community has raised $15,000 so far for a fund for the goforth family. and alex, the front page of the houston chronicle sunday paper tells you everything you need to know about how captivated the city is by the shooting. people are in mourning, and shock. this is a full page on the story, alex. >> understandably so. okay, jamie, thank you for that. a 60-year-old fan is dead after falling from the upper deck during a braves-yankees game in atlanta. chanel jones has more. >> reporter: hfs a horrifying scene for thousands of fans at atlanta's turner field. even the game's sportscaster. >> someone just fell over the
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upper deck. right below us. oh, miff gosh. they have to stop the game. oh, my gosh. as alex rodriguez was coming, and being introduced. a fan fell from the upper deck. >> reporter: witnesses say the man landed head-first two sections below. very close to where the families of the players were sitting. >> he just came down like a thud. onto the concrete steps. >> reporter: several people jumped into action, including this surgeon sitting nearby. >> we performed cpr until the paramedics came and put him on a board and took him away. for about ten minutes or so. it was pretty nerve-racking. people were pretty much in shock. >> reporter: cell phone video shows the victim later carried out on a stretcher. the man fell to his death in the seventh inning. many people didn't even realize what happened and the game went on. >> i just saw the commotion. i thought it was a fight at
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first. >> reporter: major league baseball is looking at fan safety this season, after one woman at fenway park was struck by a broken bat, and another hit by a foul ball at wrigley field. >> according to espn.com, that fan was an atlanta braves season ticket holder. this is the third death at atlanta's turner field since 2008. we are watching the remnants of tropical stork erika as it inches closer to florida. it's expected to dump up to 5 inches of rain in some areas. the latest with a clear view of a beautiful day behind you, but might not be that way for long. what's it like there? >> reporter: definitely the calm before the storm here. on the water here, in clearwater bay, you can see boats and jet skis out on the water. if we zoom in, a little bit more, past that you can see folks on the sand and in the water there, enjoying what is a great day so far. the temperatures in the low 80s. beautiful weather, however, not
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going to stick around. those beaches are going to be empty come late afternoon, early evening, when forecasters say the storms are going to roll in, bringing with them the possibility of high winds and heavy rain. that is something this area does not need. unlike other drought-stricken sections of the state, tampa is actually having its third wettest august on record. the auk quifers are full alread. more rain could push some rivers into moderate flood levels. flash flood warnings and watches are in effect through central and southern florida. they'll stay that way throughout the weekend and into monday. some 8,000 national guard members are standing by in case people need them. as for now, however, it is time to wait and watch for the remnants of erika to roll in. and right now, the place to do that is outside and on the beaches, alex. back to you. >> great place to be on a sunday afternoon. thank you very much. a lot to tell you about in presidential politics today. overnight the des moines register and bloomberg released
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the likely caucusgoers. the lead of hillary clinton is shrinking considerably, with senator bernie sanders moving up seven points. >> the powers that be in washington, wall street, the huge campaign donors, the koch brothers, are so powerful, that the only way we bring about real change in this country, which represents the needs of the middle class and working families, is when millions of people stand up and say, enough is enough. >> donald trump gains a wide lead over every other republican in the race. ben carson is second, ted cruz and scott walker tied for third. carly fiorina fighting what could be a losing battle to find a spot on the main stage at the next gop debate. despite all recent polls showing her in the top ten. i spoke with fiorina deputy
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campaign director a little earlier. >> we hope the rnc will speak out about this, say they also find this unfair. we hope cnn will see the light. it's pretty obvious to us that cnn's rules are preventing voters from hearing who they want to hear from. >> joining me now, betsy woodruff, political reporter at "the daily beast," and -- is it a strategic mistake to leave off the only woman in the gop field? >> i think they should push her cause, without a doubt. first off, just because it benefits republicans to have such an articulate and interesting female candidate on stage. but second, just from a polling perspective, it makes sense. carly fiorina, besides donald trump, probably had the best debate night of the fox news debate. other republican candidates' numbers have gone down. it's curious cnn wouldn't find a way to get her on stage, and
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that the rnc wouldn't do more to help her out. >> cnn says they're putting together a compilation of earlier polls, put it all together and computed it for that. she certainly has the momentum. curtis, fiorina was declared the winner by many of the debate earlier this month. could it be better to be the winner of the smaller debate than getting lost in the larger field? >> you know, i think she certainly would like to be on stage out here on september 16th at the reagan presidential library. i don't think anyone wants to win the kids' table debate, they want to sit at the main table with the adults, and win that debate and have a showing against some of the top-tier candidates. obviously carly fiorina is increasing in the polls. as a result, you certainly want to be in the main debate, and have the chance to go head-to-head with the likes of jeb bush, marco rubio, and donald trump as well. >> do you, curtis, really think anyone can get an edge on donald trump right now? won't he just, unless he
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completely blows it, no matter what he says, he seems to come out the winner. >> he certainly has -- sucks all the oxygen out of the room. but yeah, it's certainly tough to go head-to-head with him, with him doing so well in all these polls around the early nominating states. >> here's a bit of what donald trump said on immigration and jeb bush. >> so jeb has a memo that he signed, basically a politically correct memo. you know, don't say this, don't say that. all this pages of stuff. one of the things, never use the term anchor baby. all of a sudden he's using the term anchor baby this past week. with me when i use it, nobody criticizes me, they expect it, they gave up, okay? with him they killed him. they just killed him. it didn't stop. >> betsy, it seems like every candidate is trying to out-trump donald trump now. is there any conventional wisdom
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on this approach? >> i think the biggest takeaway right now, given the new bloomberg poll, is underqualification is now qualification. ben carson is in second place. he's the most competitive with trump by far in iowa. he also has the same level of experience in electoral politics, which is to say zero. if you have experience making policy, and running executive branches, or getting elected, it's kind of a problem at this point in the race. i think that also helps sanders. sanders has been able to successfully position himself as an outsider as far as establishment leaders. i think that's what we're seeing, is voters want someone who has absolutely nothing to do with washington. >> but we can play these clips over and over again, and quote them back to the candidates. so betsy, how damaging do you think it might be long-term for the republicans discussing immigration with the harsh rhetoric? >> it's terrible. after they get walloped in the
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2012 election, the main policy proposal that that report made was that the republican support comprehensive immigration reform and that republicans be more welcoming in the rhetoric they used to talk about hispanic immigrants. donald trump has forced basically all the republican presidential candidates to do the opposite. even though nationally he polls among the republican primary voters, his disapproval ratings among spanish voters is sky-high. >> interesting with the polling in terms much the democrats, curtis. some would suggest that it's feeling a little bit like 2008 for hillary clinton, where she was up early, and didn't win iowa. talking about that, is that a general consensus? can that be turned around? >> absolutely. look back to 2008, and early on, it was around this time, she started to kind of go down in iowa to then senator barack obama. we see that with the poll that just came out today in the des moines register poll with her
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leading bernie sanders by seven points right now. we're five months from caucus day, and, you know, there could certainly be concern among the clinton camp that her polling in the state has gone down since april when she announced. >> all right. well, curtis lee and betsy woodruff, much remains to be seen. thanks so much. we'll check in with you guys again. >> sure. thank you. >> thank you. the attack in france is triggering new measures to tighten railway security. how could they prevent another such attack? that's next. bring us your aching and sleep deprived. bring us those who want to feel well rested.
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u.s. officials to secure this nation's railways. the question is, what can be done? joining me now, shawn henry, former fbi executive assistant director. shawn, good to see you as always. my first question to you, according to the "washington post" earlier this week, how can they stop terrorist attacks on trains. what can you tell us about the existing security policies and what are some of the messages that should be put in place in the wake of the attack in france? >> you know, alex, when you're talking about security on trains, particularly as it relates to terrorism, it really starts with intelligence on the forefront. this is really about terrorism and the train attacks are another vector by which terrorists try to launch their philosophies on us, to strike fear in the heart of americans. the ability of the joint terrorism task forces, and law enforcement, oftentimes with the assistance of civilians are the type of things that will help to prevent these types of attacks.
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the type of security you might expect to see at an airport, for example, to be imposed on our railway system across the entire united states, would be a large undertaking. >> sure would. the latest stats show that every day, more than 86,000 passengers ride hundreds of amtrak trains. that number, though, is less than those who fly in the skies. so does that make trains, stations, more appealing targets for terrorists? >> i think it does. let me give you an even larger number. just in new york city alone, in the subway system, you've got more than 5.5 million passenger rides per day, compared to about 2 million people that are flying throughout the united states on a daily basis. so those numbers are overwhelming, if you take that number and magnify it across the entire united states. it's somewhat daunting. also, the type of security you would expect to see at an airport, you really couldn't put into the 450 subway systems, or subway stops, just, again, in new york city. again, multiply that by the many
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cities across the united states. it's a large undertaking. it's really got to start with intelligence on the forefront. >> for years, government reports have warned that the u.s. rail system is vulnerable to terrorist attacks. so why isn't security as tight at train stations as it is at airports? i understand you're talking about the logistics of putting it everywhere. then again, we may have thought it was a daunting task when we started doing everything we had to in the airports across the country. >> i think there are a couple of things, alex. first of all, i have seen an increase, when you talk about surveillance, cameras that have been installed in railway systems around the united states. increased patrols by police officers. and the enhanced usage of canine officers. those patrols looking for explosives and those sorts of things. those types of things can help to deter these types of attacks. again, you can't underestimate the value of the vigilance of citizens, the passengers that are traveling day in and day out, see something, say something, that message that we
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all hear echoed. that's something we need to take to heart. it is incredibly important, because there's somebody on the forefront collecting intelligence, bringing it to law enforcement's attention. >> shawn, the tsa declined to give us details, but do you suspect there's a lot going on that we are not aware of, to keep the railways and passengers safe? >> there's no doubt about that. i can tell you that within the joint terrorism task force, the fbi, amtrak is a part of that, metro police officers are part of, again, across the united states, components of all those terrorism task forces. that intelligence is being shared. they're working together in a very collaborative way, again, to try to detect these types of events and deter them in advance, rather than trying to figure out who did them on the back end. the ability of law enforcement to infiltrate these groups and try to identify their activities is really the key component here in stopping these things. increased vigilance at the
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stations is another piece that will help us be safer in our rail travel. >> it's ingrained in our brains now, see something, say something. shawn henry, thanks so much. >> thanks, alex. after a crazy week on wall street, how will the market move on monday? what you need to know to protect your nest egg, next. ♪ (dorothy) toto, i've a feeling we're not in kansas anymore... (morpheus) after this, there is no turning back. (spock) history is replete with turning points. (kevin) wow, this is great. (commentator) where fantasy becomes reality! (penguin 1) where are we going? (penguin 2) the future, boys. the glorious future. (vo) at&t and directv are now one- bringing your television
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after that 1,000-point epic decline on monday, everybody had a right to be unnerved. but we look ahead and realize the second half of this week investors focus on the positive economic news coming out of the u.s. economy. that news is going to be in focus as we look ahead to the federal reserve meeting, to the jobs report on friday. so i say that volatility is going to be with us for some time. investors should use this relief rally to make changes in their portfolio if they're concerned about volatility. but they should buckle up and get ready for a roller coaster in the month of september. >> can you explain to people who might not follow stocks, or wall street, why the u.s. had such a tough week because of what's happening in china? >> sure. it really did stem from china. the concerns that china's been the global growth engine for the world. as china begins to slow, the concern is it will make its way here and into other economies. some of that is true. for many big u.s. companies, whether it's caterpillar, united technology, companies that sell to china, they're going to be affected by this. remember, two-thirds of the u.s. economy is the consumer base.
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the silver lining is lower gasoline prices, in part because of a slowing china, will help the u.s. consumer as we get closer to the holiday shopping season. that's a positive for the typical household that's watching the show today. >> yeah. you did say the people who are investors, they need to look at things right now, and maybe place things a little differently if they're concerned about volatility. >> part of the concern is we had gone so long without this volatility, so it shouldn't have come as a surprise. we haven't had a 10% correction in four years. normally you get it every year. we had six straight years of stock market declines for the s&p. we've never had seven. so to say we could get a little bit of volatility, not necessarily a bad thing if you're a long-term investor. if you're not properly positioned, or need that money to pay your bills tomorrow, you've got a problem. for the rest of the world, it could be an opportunity. but be patient. take a plan. be disciplined. and use this volatility to your advantage. and don't be a victim of it.
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>> you're saying, if you're heavily invested in stocks through your 401(k), you should not panic? >> sure. well, some investors were simply too invested, too aggressive going into this. leaving maybe the federal reserve having their back. maybe stocks would only go up. we all know that's not the case. trees don't grow to the sky. as a result we're seeing this correction. those investors are reassessing their position saying, you know what, maybe i was a little bit too aggressive, maybe i'll take a few chips off the table on the big relief larally in the secon half of the week. that's a good plan. you don't have to be fully invested in all positions. figure out what is right for you, make sure it's appropriate for your place in life. >> there are redwoods out there, and they're pretty great. >> have a great weekend. >> you, too. the potential threat of a joe biden run. from border to border, they're running for their lives. the latest snapshot of europe's
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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." to politics now, the new polls out of iowa with slipping numbers for hillary clinton. a poll of likely democratic caucusgoers has bernie sanders within seven points of the front-runner. clinton's support has fallen 20 points since may, putting her below 50% for the first time in a bloomberg-des moines register poll. the wild card in all of this still remains to be vice president joe biden. joining me now, former new mexico governor, u.n. ambassador to president bill clinton, bill richardson. mr. ambassador, i understand you're joining us on the phone. i want to quickly ask you about your endorsement of hillary clinton last week. why did you decide to do so now? were your differences recently patched up and you thought, all
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right, i'm going to go with it? >> yes, alex. we'd had like seven years of a little bit of hostility between myself and hillary and president clinton. when i endorsed president obama over her, when i got out of the presidential race. and i don't regret my endorsement of president obama. that was, i think, sound. but the way i did it, and so i reached out to them, and i said, let's patch things up. they responded positively. we'd always had close relationships between us. and i basically wanted to patch things up. and it happened. and i've always thought very highly of both of them. and i think very highly of her and that's why i'm supporting her. >> what's it like to be in the doghouse with the clintons? you just get frozen out, or what? >> it's a lot more than that. you get frozen out by them, and then their people, and there are thousands and thousands of their people all over the place. so, yeah, it's being in the
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woodshed. but it's a bad feeling i had, alex. i worked for the president. we were close friends. and i wanted to get back in a situation where we had a normal relationship. so, yeah, being in the woodshed for seven years was not pleasant. >> one more thing before we get to the substance of politics here. >> yeah. >> the fact that you decided to choose somebody else to endorse. that's certainly your right to do, and you probably had legitimate reasons for doing so. you did pick with the winner. was it more than that? or just because you didn't throw your support behind them? >> no, it was -- i had seen something very special in president obama. we were candidates together. we had a good chemistry together. i thought there was something very special about him. it wasn't any negative feeling about hillary clinton, or certainly president clinton, but
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what happened was i did it in a very visible way during a super bowl that president clinton came to see me. i shouldn't have done it so visibly, the endorsement of obama. i should have been more careful. i don't regret it, because i think he's been a very good president. >> it sounds like more the way you did it than what you did. >> that's right. >> it is what it is. all right. let's go to the poll this week which asked the voters for the first word that came to mind. liar, dishonest, untruthworthy, and experienced and strong. you've been in public life. how hard is that for a candidate to hear, and i'm just going to ask you to get personal on this. because politicians are people, too. >> well, that's right. it's this e-mail controversy which is a headline every day. and it's not helpful. you know, it's probably not been handled correctly.
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but i think this is a long, long race, alex. in six months, i think she's going to show her staying power. what i'd like to see is people covering her new policies on income equality, foreign policy, environmental issues, women's issues, economic growth. she's got a raft of good proposals. she's experienced. she's very strong nationally in terms of name i.d. she's going to be electrifying women because she may be the first woman president. and i think from now, later, in six, seven months, my prediction -- i'm going to go out on a limb -- trump will flame out. hillary will be the nominee. i think you're going to see a good, good path for democrats to win. it will be tight, but in the end, i think the electoral map favors the democrats. >> with that prediction you've just given me in seven months putting hillary clinton as the democratic nominee, i was going
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to ask you whether you saw bernie sanders or joe biden as a bigger threat. are either of them inconsequential in your mind, ultimately? >> i think if joe biden gets in, he's a is serious candidate. he's very popular among the democratic base. he's had a good record as vice president. bernie sanders represents a movement. the progressive wing of the democratic party. he's rallied them. but i think in the end, it's not just iowa and new hampshire, i've been in this race. it's 48 other states. it's states where hillary clinton is going to be strong, with the minorities, with the women, with young voters, in southern states. she turns president clinton out as a formidable campaigner. she's going to be very, very hard to beat in a democratic primary. i think she's still the prohibitive favorite. >> i want to quickly turn to iran with you since i have you here. it looks like it's going to be a big week. key lawmakers announcing their
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decisions. allen grayson talked with chris hayes on thursday. >> people are telling me if the deal falls through, then iran will come back to the negotiating table, and negotiate a deal that's better for us. i have other people who are telling me that if the deal falls through, either iran will have a bomb by the end of the year, and all their money that they're not getting now, and in addition to that, we might have a war on our hands. or maybe israel will have a war on ids hands. one of them is horribly wrong. i just don't know which one yet. >> grayson is still undecided where he'll go on this. do you believe either side that he's laid out is closer to the truth, and if so, which one? >> i think this congressman is being very thoughtful. i was a member of congress. i would be on this vote right now, undecided, probably leaning no. because my concern is not the nuclear agreement. i think that's been well, well
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positioned, well designed. it's iran's behavior. it's them having an arms embargo lifted where they can buy missiles, they can buy conventional weapons, they can mess around in syria, with the tutsys against israel. the hostages, no sign they've going to be released. the marine, the reporter. so i would wait until the last minute -- and this was a -- i think an opportunity for a congressman to wait, september 15th. maybe that's when the vote is. see if iran has improved its behavior. if it hasn't, i would lean against it. i think the president's done a good job of negotiating the nuclear side. but it's iran's behavior that concerns me. i think this congressman is being very thoughtful. there's all kinds of theories on what's going to happen. >> all right. well, i always appreciate our conversations, bill richardson. >> thank you, alex. >> next time, get in front of a
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camera, because we want to see you. >> okay. bye. developing now overseas, hungarian police arrest a fifth man involved in the deaths of 71 migrants. the bodies were found in a van last week. officials say it is likely they suffocated to death. let's go to ron allen in london for the latest on this. ron, good day to you. terrible, terrible story. what are the authorities saying about the latest suspect? >> it is a really terrible story, alex. the fifth suspect, like the other four, is apparently part of a human smuggling ring operating in europe. there are many of these rings that are preying on these innocent people, for the most part innocent people coming across the borders, flooding across the borders into europe. police have been trying to crack down on the smugglers. there's also a roundup of some 22 other suspects, in unrelated cases. but it's the 71 in the truck who suffocated, apparently. the autopsies are inconclusive
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at this point. they're trying to identify these people and determine who they were. the bodies were so badly decomposed, that's proving to be very difficult. there were travel documents, passports found, suggesting that many of them were syrians, fleeing the war there. there are also cell phones that have been recovered, so they're trying to get into the cell phones, and see if they can track relatives, friends, the last callers of these individuals. just a painstaking process. all of this is causing so many countries in europe, from greece and turkey and the south, all the way up to great britain here, and further to scandinavia, to figure out how to deal with this. some are cracking down. some are showing compassion. for familiexample in hungary, t rounding up migrants and trying to fingerprint them. many people are trying to escape, because they want to go to wealthier countries like germany. they're fingerprinted and caught somewhere else, and brought back to hungary. that's why they're jumping over the barbed wire fences trying to
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escape hungarian fences. the projections, it could reach 1 million people going to germany. great britain is another target. finally today, in the vatican, pope francis spoke out about all this for the first time, saying that he's concerned about what's happening, obviously, and he's called for people to unite to stop what he called crimes against migrants. referring to the incident involving the human smugglers, saying this is something that offends the entire human family. here in new york, there are calls for top leaders to hold emergency meetings to figure out what to do about this, as the flood of people continues with no end in sight. hundreds of thousands. and again, we're focusing on this now, but this has been going on for some time. again, no end in sight as the wars in syria and elsewhere continue to send people fleeing, looking for a better life. alex? >> it is heartbreaking, their desperation. thank you very much, ron allen. homecomings and heart aches, ten years after katrina, tale of
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it's been a weekend of ceremonies as residents of new orleans marked the tenth anniversary of hurricane katrina. the victims were remembered in an event yesterday. more than 1,800 people were killed as a result of that storm. bill clinton spoke at the commemoration and reminded residents what can be accomplished when people come together despite their differences. >> you've got a lot to celebrate tonight. but the celebration must be leavened by rededication. the people who died left behind memories and loved ones and legacies that deserve to be fully redeemed. by erasing the lines that divide us. >> tremaine lee is with us in new orleans this afternoon. welcome to you, tremaine. is new orleans prepared to put the tragedy of hurricane katrina in its rear-view mirror?
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>> reporter: i'll tell you what, alex, in so many ways it is. there have been great progress, but also many setbacks. how well the city moves forward will likely be determined by those who are still living in katrina's shadow, and by those who survived it. the gaping holes left in new orleans' landscapes by buildings and houses washed away in hurricane katrina are only one aspect of what's been lost. more than the physical wounds, some survivors wrestle with the emotional and psychological scars. >> it took me eight years to get home. i couldn't go over bodies of water without seeing bodies. >> reporter: this is one of tens of thousands of new orleans residents forced to flee their homes as floodwaters engulfed 80% of the city. her family eventually ended up in texas, staying the better part of the last decade. the anniversary of the storm brings back bitter memories. >> to lose everything, you know? everything. all your clothes, all your
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paperwork, birth certificates, pictures. >> reporter: as the city descended into chaos, general russell honore arrived to restore order and help with the evacuation process. >> people struggling before the storm, had it even worse after the storm. people that were marginally getting by. that old house they lived in no longer exists. the job they had no longer exists. >> reporter: 1.5 million people were forced from new orleans in the gulf coast region after katrina. ten years later, a number of them have returned. but to a new new orleans. new orleans has gone from literally being underwater to being one of the fastest growing major cities in america. >> reporter: despite the mayor's proclamation, violent crime, a problem before katrina, continues to plague certain sections of the city. the public school system has been torn apart, and made into the nation's first all-charter district. neighborhoods have seen dramatic recovery, but in the city's
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majority black lower ninth ward, the process has been much slower. for every newly built home, there's one beyond repair. nearly 100,000 black residents have not returned. compared with 11,000 white residents. of all the things we've lost in the storm, what haven't we gotten back yet? >> a little bit of the soul is still missing. >> reporter: while the city of new orleans has worked hard to repair the structural damage left in katrina's wake -- >> it took the better part of a year and a half to go to sleep. >> reporter: -- many residents continue to struggle with the emotional damage the storm inflicted. when you think of the future of this amazing city, what do you hope for? >> i hope for more families to return. >> reporter: with this weekend of commemorations over, the people of new orleans do want to move forward. but so many say they just want a way out of the shadow, they want quality housing, and a solid way of life. something that was hard before
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the storm, but they're hoping they can achieve some semblance of that. >> pretty extraordinary story telling by you, my friend. thank you so much from new orleans. in a moment, the remnants of tropical storm tropical storm erika. what florida needs to worry about next. ...to show my love. ta-da! all this devotion only calls for a little bit of dawn ultra. now even more concentrated. just one bottle has the grease cleaning power of two bottles of this other liquid. you still got it, romeo. a drop of dawn and grease is gone. just in case you were wondering what cheerios are made of whole. grain. oats.
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at 53 past the hour -- a violent storm that tore through the northwest has killed two people, including a 10-year-old girl who was struck by a tree limb. 60-mile-an-hour winds downed trees and locked out power to more than 200,000 customers. the first black actor to play jean bel jean is dead. the 21-year-old died yesterday after accidentally falling from his mother's fourth-floor fire escape. he was also the youngest to play the role when he took the stage this summer. beaches along california's morrow bay are expected to remain closed today after a surfer's scary encounter with a great white shark saturday. that shark did that. took a bit old bite out of her
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surfboard. fortunately she survived it unscathed. another shark tale, this in san diego where a group of kayakers shot video of a hammerhead shark circling them in a somewhat aggressive fashion. the shark actually followed the kayakers to shore yesterday but didn't end up attacking them. a hiker missing for nine days in the sierra nevada mountains is being treated for some broken bones today. the 62-year-old woman managed to get the attention of a search team yesterday by blowing a whistle. to survivor the injured woman crawled for two days to a creek where she could scoop water into a bottle that had a filter. those are your fast five headlines. florida's bracing for heavy rain expected later on today as remnants of tropical storm erika move away from the state. it caused major damage passing through the dominican republic with at least 20 people having died there. i know it is a weaker storm, steve, but that doesn't mean the threat is over. right? >> that's right. we're seeing a lot of to harrenl
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downpours which florida is accustomed to, but some of these thunderstorms are also producing flooding. that's the main concern with the remnants of erika now pushing through the state. i'll highlight areas i think are having the greatest threat for heavy thunderstorms right now. that's generally in south florida. we're seeing heavier thunderstorms. they come in waves. the sky opens up, you see those very heavy downpours. then the rain tapers off. that's the kind of nature we'll see with these storms throughout the next two days or so. it won't be raining the entire time but when it rains, it powers. that's the concern here. too much rain at one time. let's break down what we expect out of this rainfall for florida. southern florida does need rain but central florida does not. gainesville where the gators are saw four inches of rain overnight. that's how much rain can fall in a short amount of time and that's where you have flash flood concerns. two to three inches of rain in an hour is too much at one time.
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that's why you see street and highway flooding. here are projected rainfall amounts for the next two days. much of the central and northern part of the state looking at two to three inches of rain. a good soaking for many areas. over to the pacific, we have hurricane ignacio. hawaii is to the left. that storm is pushing off to the north and west. it is a strong category 4 storm. sizable hurricane. good news with ignacio is it will weaken as it moves off to the north and west. by tuesday 90-mile-an-hour winds and it continues to weaken. the main threat for the islands are heavy surf -- 15 to 20-foot waves. not too concerned about tropical storm-force winds but the surf. in the east this week, the big concern is the heat wave for new york city, boston and philadelphia. get ready to sweat it out. >> i say bring out the bathing
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