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make us a solution. please find for us a solution. >> where are you go? >> germany. >> where are you go? >> germany. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. more than 7,000 pages of clinton e-mails released by the state department give us frush insights into the private e-mail account that has engulfed her campaign. 125 have now been censored but we're not classified when they were originally sent. a quarter of the e-mails she turned over have been released. in this batch no smoking gun. >> this time none were top secret but 125 were classified confidential in the last few days. including this 2010 e-mail about press reports, the state department was softening the
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administration's stance in nuclear talks with iran. clinton writing an aide, the "wall street journal" says it's a reversal of position. what gives? >> reporter: clinton's private e-mail system did cause confusion. close aide huma abedin writes her some official e-mails were not getting through. abedin writes, it's clearly a state ver us out side e-mail issue. in another exchange a member of the state department helped us seemed unaware the e-mail address was clinton's. abedin wrote, they had no idea it was you. advisers cautioned restraint in discussing any classified in an unsecure setting. despite the e-mail system clinton struggled to set up her ipad, asking an aide how to charge it. later adding, i don't know if i have wi-fi. how do i find out? and some e-mails are clearly not state secrets. she e-mails a personal assistant for skim milk for tea and the tv schedules for parks and
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recreation and "the good wife." >> and nining me now, p.j. crowley, spokesman for hillary clinton and steve clemmons, msnbc contributor and editor at large at "the atlantic." both mentioned in two e-mails. welcome both. >> thank you. >> p.j., when you were at the state department, did you know that she had a private e-mail account? >> well, yes. the first time i got an e-mail from "h," all that came up i said, who is that? oh, hello. so it wasn't really an issue for us at the -- among her leadership team. we had no trouble communicating with her. i happen to do far more of my business with her in person rather than by e-mail. >> you had been in the military and your other previous experience was at the national security council. and the clinton years. and so you were used to dealing with classified material. what comes through loud and clear here is that people -- the career professional diplomats were e-mailing, well, we'll talk about that online, we're talking
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about that country, we were discussing the other day. they were talking around things because they knew they were in an unsecure environment. >> we do that all tim too. i falk to you on the phone in my previous life i would say, okay, how can i answer that question in an unclassified context knowing that i have information back here. there's a classified context. there's nothing unusual about this. this happens any time, you know, you're always crossing whether it's in person, on the phone, you know, or by e-mail, between that unclassified context and that classified context. >> now, huma abedin, the closest aide of course and long time assist aboant and moving up the ranks with hillary clinton, at one point she's e-mailing with clinton, do you know what this is? abedin, says, your e-mail must be backed up. she called the e-mail help desk at state assuming you had state e-mail and told them that. they had no idea it was you, just some random address so they
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e-mailed. sorry about that. regardless means your e-mail must be back. are you getting other message sd. so, steve, her original information was it was convenient. this hardly seems convenient. >> this is a family, a franchise, if you will, under political assault for a long time. after ken starr and his investigation, white water and the constant conspiratorial atmosphere around them this was an act of defensiveness to protect some bit of their terrain from enemies that i think they feel are embedded all around them. >> the enemies being -- >> you never know. >> -- congress, the press? >> someone who could tear her down, people working in the government. when you're working in a state department you're dealing with lots of people who had come just out of the bush administration. we saw appointments and what not there. we don't know what the rational is but there was a certain defensiveness that makes a lot of sense when you look back at how under assault the clintons have been. >> but at the same time that's
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re-enforced, p.j., by things such as e-mails from sid bloo n bloomenthal, the one person that they said she could not hire. and he's sending e-mails talking about the great white ring conspiracy. >> sure, but she was also getting perspective from long time friends and associates, sandy burger, you know, others. i think these e-mails, because we have to look, there's a volume here. 4400. not withstanding the fact that she had a private e-mail account and was dealing in an organization that had .gov accounts. you get a sense of how she managed, used e-mail to manage the day-to-day functions of her department. she was always on her briefs. trying to figure out, you know, what's the latest on this or that. you also get a sense of what was the agenda in this particular time period 2010. what was she dealing with from
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the tragedy in haiti to try to set up iran sanctions to getting phish off of a platform in israel that was fish that was subject to 120% tariff, you know, in anticipation of passover. >> she's trying to get the specialty for passover and she's trying to get it from an illinois manufacturer because congressmen have complained to her at a hearing and trying to get it to israel in time for passover. i mean, what's with that? >> it shows that she really had a detailed understanding of her job and task. there are some really extraordinary e-mails. one between ann marie slaughter and hillary clinton redacted. i agree with your position on. u.n. security council reform. and it takes out what that position was. but it shows that she was really engaged with important substantive issues. >> it also shows though that she was very interested in gossip
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and political gossip. now, there was this e-mail that involved you reports that steve clemmons called last night to talk about this. he's just posted on his website. in loose of the ft, financial times, of course, told him also clemmons had dinner this week with petraeus who freely talked about run for president. clinton, please be sure you send me the next article from clemmons and will he write about petraeus? he posted this on his dinner. he told me more detail about his attitude and interest among other things, petraeus recounted a joke about gates' speech, former defense secretary, at the alfalfa club dinner. petraeus couldn't be there because he was in iowa. pet tris didn't tell that story, he smiled and watched closely for reaction from others. all incredibly ironic now. >> i have a feeling most of the town was talking to sid bloomenthal as we did at the time. at a point when a number of us
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at the "financial times" and myself writing profiles of key decision makers in the house, how they were interacting. some of it may have seemed gossipy but they were profiles of people and how they were executing their jobs. on the petraeus night, petraeus himself liked the article and i had written how he had showed up to a dinner in civilian clothes. i said everyone running for office is going to have a heart attack thinking you're priming to get ready. then one of his guys came back and posted on my blog that he bought his suit off the rack and it wasn't designer. so it was, you know, in that world. but she seemed very interested and wanted to know more and that's what was clear. >> again, what do you think was the impulse for doing this when you're a cabinet secretary dealing with national security? >> i think that if you look at the pattern of her interaction with a number of officials she felt the potential of being cut out of various things in the white house. she was upset that she hadn't been invited to certain
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meetings. they were very sensitive about the fact that they are believed there was a white house cabal at odds with them and i think that when she was either weighing potential con tenders or rivals or also looking another what is in that gossip helped her shape a view of what they needed to do to -- >> the e-mail system in the first place? >> well, i'm not justifying. i'm saying in their mind they thought that they needed that to prevent others from leaking, doing what is exactly happened right now, that they feared that kind of potential stretching of whatever it may have been. this was defensive act by the clinton franchise, fearful of others. and now they've actually had a self fulfilling nightmare with this. >> quick point that you also see in these -- the growth, in 2009 there was tension between the clinton state department and the obama white house. a lot of campaign tension carried over into government. it wasn't really until copenhagen in the late and 2009 where all of a sudden you really did say they were now one team
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and, from there, there was a great deal of cooperation and i think that comes out in the e-mails that you see over this long tenure that show how she was a tremendous asset to the president. >> p.j. crowley, thank you very much. steve clemmons, with your bit roles in these e-mails, appreciate you being here to elaborate and explain and now we have breaking news out of fox lake, illinois, about an hour north of chicago a manhunt is under way after a police officer was shot. our nbc station wmaq reports police are search for two armed people. we don't know any details on the officer's condition at this time. we're expecting a news conference from local sheriff's officers soon, but nbc's craig melvin joins me now with the latest. what do we know, craig? >> at this point that news conference is supposed to happen here in about 20 minutes. this part of illinois, the fox lake area we're talking roughly an hour north of fairly close to
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wisconsin. at this point all we know is that at about 9:00 a.m. an officer was shot. there is this massive manhunt that is under way. canine units are being used. several law enforcement agencies have responded. there's also a high school, grant community high school is on lockdown. the superintendent of schools in that area saying that obviously the lockdown is because of the manhunt and they are keeping students and staff away from the windows there. metra trains also at this point not providing service to fox lake or the surrounding communities, as well as this manhunt continues. the men, we are told, by the way, armed and dangerous. according to our local station in the area. but all of this, andrea, as you know, coming on the heels of what happened in houston, texas, over the weekend, texas deputy darren goforth shot and killed at a gas station there. so as you might imagine, law
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enforcement agencies all over this country on heightened alert. at this point we do not have any information regarding the condition of this officer and we also don't really know the circumstances surrounding the shooting other than it happened at 9:00 a.m. local time this morning. again, a massive manhunt. more than an hour north of chicago in lake county. we've got our eye on this. continue to follow this. again, that news conference set to happen at roughly 12:30 eastern time. >> we will break in as soon as we have any developments at all. thanks so much, craig, for the update. meanwhile, a gay couple in kentucky asking a federal judge today to step in and overrule a county clerk there who denied them a marriage license in defiance of the supreme court. couple confronted the clerk this morning. >> we are not issuing the process today. >> businessed on what? why are you not issuing marriage licenses today? >> because i'm not. >> why? >> under whose authority? >> under god's authority. >> under god's authority.
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nbc justice correspondent pete kms joins me now. the supreme court might have something to say down the road about that in cases such as this. pete, what happens next? >> well, what happens next is the county clerk kim davis that you just saw there will have to go before a federal judge on thursday morning and explain why she shouldn't be held in contempt of court. i've since the supreme court ruling in late june that gay couples have a right to get marriage licenses she has refused to issue any marriage licenses at all to any couples, gays or straight. shes doesn't want to d discriminate so she's not giving them to anyone. now, a federal judge last month said she had to go ahead and issue these licenses while that deep issue about the religious exception goes to the courts, she lost there. she lost last week before a federal appeals court. and last night the supreme court also refused to come to her aid. she's out of remedies legally on
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trying to get out of the requirement that she issued these lie sencenses. the couples went back to the original judge in kentucky this morning and said, okay, you know, she's ran out of options. now we want her held in contempt of court. she should face some very stiff fines. the judge will set a hearing for thursday morning ordering her to appear and all of the deputy clerk, andrea. >> pete williams, thanks so much for the update on the kentucky case. and developing now on wall street. stocks taking another hit. amid concerns over the weakening economy in china. in august the u.s. manufacturing sector also slowed to its weakest level in more than two years. right now the dow is down 348 points. all the dow stocks negative territory this morning. we'll keep an eye on the markets. update you as they move. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. to folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain... shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. to everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks
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as president obama prepares to hike a melting glacier today in alaska he's using the majestic scenery as become drop for impassioned appeal to fight climate change. in a speech last night in an international climate summit the president said it may be too late to stop the dire effect. >> if we were to abandon our course of action, if we stop trying to build a clean energy economy and reduce carbon pollution, if we do nothing to keep glaciers from melting faster and forests from burning faster and storms from growing stronger, we will condemn our children to a planet beyond their capacity to repair. any leader willing to take a gamble on a future like that, any so-called leader who does not take this issue seriously or
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treats it like a joke is not fit to lead. >> join meg now from alaska is nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing. chris, this is such a unique trip, historic trip for this president. pes doing some extraordinary things. >> reporter: yeah, we've never seen anything like this. he is going to be the first president to go to the alaskan arctic. but beyond that, you know, later today as he hikes this meting glacier called the exit glacier he's going to be doing it with the survivalists and adventure tv star bear grills who does this tv show which is really a little bit on the edge and, in fact, the white house has indicated to us that when the production team gave a list of things that bear wanted to do with president obama, some of them really did go beyond the secret service knicks. but we are going to see things that we've never seen before, really shows you how the president who has been talking
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about climate change for the last couple of weeks he's travelled 14,000 miles. this is his third stop after nevada and louisiana. really wants to get this visual out there. and i mean part of it, frankly, is he's also talking to environmentalist people who had supported him for a long time, who are very upset about the back before he came here he allowed that lease to go through for shell oil to drill. this is about him getting out there and showing he understands and making a statement, not just to the folks who are watching here in the united states but in advance, as you know, of that big climate summit that's coming up in paris in december, andrea. >> thanks so much, chris jansing, which tees us up exactly because joining me now is tom steyer. he is, of course, from exgen climate, i should say. thank you very much, tom. i want to talk to you about the president's a profit value of that offshore drilg off the arctic coast by shell. there have been protesters
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tracking him at every stop along this route. as he tries to dramatize his passion for doing something about global warming, according to environmentalists and perhaps you yourself, he's also doing something with offshore drilling that's having a contradictory effect. >> well, andrea, we think at this point the idea of drilling for more oil and gas isn't the kind of solution we're looking for for america because we have more oil and gas than we're probably ever going to be able to use. right now what we need is the kind of solutions that the president is talking about on this trip, which is clean energy solution and when we make investments going forward we need them to be in the infrastructure that's going to be appropriate for the 21st century, going to make america stronger and cleaner. >> you have access to the president. you've participated in fund-raising with him. you can pick up the phone and call him presumably or call his people. what do you say to him about
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this approval of the shell rig? >> i think at this point the president is pushing as hard as he can to point out what we need to do going forward. so if we disagree with him on part of his agenda, we agree with him on the overwhelming bulk of his agenda. the whole point of this trip, i think, is to say, where america is going on this is a new way, it's a clean way, it's for us to take the technology we have, take the policies we have, push them forward and lead the world. so the fact of the matter is we support the president and we think that he's doing a terrific job on this. 4th is bringing home in alaska the urgency of the need for us to be progressive, to be forward thinking, and to use america's economic and business might in order to change the world is going and the way we're going. >> going forward, i know you've been opposed to the keystone pipeline, do you see the current political campaign as your opportunity to push hard on that
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issue? we so far have not heard hillary clinton make a commitment one way or the other. >> well, we think about -- keystone is a perfect example of the wrong kind of investment for the 21st century. why would you want to put money into a 40 to 100-year piece of infrastructure that is a terrible idea on day one and is a much worse idea five years down the road, ten years down the road. what we need to be doing is spending our money on the solutions that our technology makes available right now, which is instead of going down into the earth, go up into the air. and that's where our solutions are going to be, to provide clean energy going forward and to make us more prosperous, provide good jobs for our citizen, and to be able to hnd on world to our kids that we're proud of. >> shouldn't clinton, a candidate you've supported in the past, step up to the plate and make a commitment one way or the other so people voting in this election year or next year will know where she stands? >> what plsz clinton has said is that she didn't want to give an
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opinion on this because she was part of the process when she was running the state department of the review. she's also said recently that if the president and the administration don't come out with a ruling on keystone that she'll make her feelings known. so i think it's only appropriate to take her at her word that, a, she feels it's inappropriate at this time to make a decision on keystone and, b,that at some point she feels it is appropriate. let me say this, keystone is not a tough call. the fact of the matter is america has a great way to solve this problem. we can do it. it's not a question of keystone or nothing. what we need to do is change the way we're going and go to a much cleaner energy solution that makes us energy independent, stronger, and cleaner. >> tom steyer, great to see you again, sir. thank you very much for being with us today. and we now have that breaking news. more breaking news out of fox lake, illinois. about an hour north of chicago where a manhunt is under way after a police officer was shot. wmaq reporter phil rogers joins
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me now by phone. phil, what do we know now about the people there looking for him, the condition of the police officer? >> reporter: andrea, we are getting a report from up in that region from a law enforcement source that the officer has now died. what happened was this was at about 8:15 this morning chicago time. fox lake is a commuter community about 59 miles northwest of chicago. somehow the. offenders reported by got the drop on the officer. he was shot. and the all call message went out that the officer's weapon and pepper spray had been taken by two individuals, a male black and a male white. they locked down all of the schools in the area because the offenders were believed to be on foot. what is really a fairly rural area. another report went out about 15 minutes later that possibly a third offender and possibly a woman was also being sought, but that was very peripheral
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information and none of that portion of it has been confirmed. >> but it's actually been confirmed that the police officer has died? >> we have a law enforcement source who says that the police officer has died and now that fact is also being reported by other media here in the chicago area, as well. we're expecting a briefing from the lake county sheriff's office. they are the supervising agency in this investigation. and we're expecting a briefing from them in just a few minutes. >> well, obviously terrible news out of fox lake. we will await further information from you, phil, and thanks very much. we'll have more information as we get it. we will be right back. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me... and you're talking to a rheumatologist about a biologic, this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me reach for more. doctors have been prescribing humira for more than 10 years.
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clinton. and thinks hillary clinton would be a good negotiator as it relates to dealing with iran. i mean, this is not a guy who is a conservative. >> jeb bush finally purnling back at trump after trump's intragram attack on monday. this was a tough one. >> yes, they broke the law, but it's not a felony. it's kind of -- it's a -- it's an act of love. >> joining me now for our daily fix, chris cillizza, crontributr and huffington post political editor sam stein. we are waiting a briefing from the sheriff outside of chicago about an hour north of chicago where reports are from wmaq that a police officer has been killed. they are still -- schools are in lockdown. they are searching for at least two and perhaps more suspects. so we'll bring you an update on that the moment we get it. so i may be interrupting you.
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but first, we will continue to talk about politics. the politics of the day and trump versus jeb bush. that was a very tough video put out by trump. in this day and able, you don't have to spend money and they did with the willie horton ad against michael dukakis, sam stein. all you have to do is an instagram. it doesn't cost anything. >> trump is very good at making things go viral. it was reminiscent of the willie horton ad, painting a broad brush about illegal immigrants in this country. saying this is a systemic problem that needs to be addressed. and really hitting jeb bush hard on this. i thought the response from jeb today maybe not as vitriolic as the initial instagram video. remember a month ago he didn't even want to talk about trump. he said he was done talking about trump. he said it was the other candidates' problems.
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now he's clearly engaging so the dynamics of the race have obviously changed. >> chris cillizza, jeb's campaign or super back put out their own video trying to take down trump by putting out that he did used to be democrat. >> right, andrea. and look,off seen lots and lots and lolths and lots of this. the thing that i wonder about, rick perry attacks donald trump looks where he ends up. rand paul attacks donald trump, look where he ends up. chris christie sort of attacks donald trump. none of these people started in the position of relative strength that jeb bush is in. he has $100 million in that super pac you just mentioned which ask a good place to start. the thing that's hard with donald trump is he's in some ways his own sort of worst/best opposition researcher. he says, i said all of these things before. makes a joke about it. moves on. he doesn't seem to hurt him. normally jeb bush put out this morning, devastating. praising hillary clinton,
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talking about democrats and how much they give. but for donald trump it's sort of rewriting the political rules. jeb bush is very much playing by those traditional rules. this is probably what he should do to try to take some of the shine off donald trump. i just don't know if it will work. >> sam stein, let me ask you about the hillary clinton e-mails because when you go through these e-mails and we've been up all night going through these e-mails, more than 4,000 e-mail, more than 7,000 pages. there isn't anything that seems to be what you would call, you know, a smoking gun. yet she's certainly oh of it's certainly a distraction from the message they would want to be putting out day after day. >> yeah. well, you know, it seems to me having gone through them and read about, she set up this private account for one of two reason '. perhaps both. the first was she wanted to talk shop. she wanted to talk 23politics a stay in touch of what was going on both in the white house and more broadly in the political landscape and a private account was probably the easiest way to
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do it. she probably wanted to avoid freedom of information requests. that's what i was reminded of is that so much politics, so much dishing, so many articles passed about what was happening in the white house and it remind you that she is inherently political. it's not a bad thing. she's a politician. but, you know, she took that political psyche to her to the state department. that said, there was also a lot of work being done at late hours of the night. those are my main take aways. >> is she ever going to get out of this cycle? chris cillizza? >> well, look, this is when we talked about this when the federal judge ordered the release of these things at pretty regular interval, andrea, roughly 30,000 pages of e-mails, this was the worst outcome for her presidential hopes because
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it's exactly what you said and exactly what sam talked about which is ware talking about this. we're not talking about her plan for college affordability. we're not talking about energy. we're not talking about income inequality. this will continue to come up because these things are going to be released and these groups, you know, of 7,000 pages or so, throughout the next several months. so it's -- i think one big unload of all of them would have been her best. maybe her best would be no release. but one big unload of all of them would have been her best. this drip, drip, drip, even if there is no smoking gun which i agree with you. i don't think there is. it just keeps the story churning, keeps the story churning. that's not good for her. >> and, in fact, the next release is going to be -- i mean, the final release won't be until january, we're told. that's the pace they are on according to the court order. last month when it was released on a friday afternoon, it stepped all over her rolling out the new cuba policy. we were all down in florida.
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the suspects? >> well, andrea, one of the things that we've learned out here is that they are searching for a white male and a black male, and i believe as we're looking at the cameras, the podium right now they're getting ready to begin this press conference although now i see the officer stepping away. this happened at about 8:15 this morning. it was believed that the officer was shot. he was disarmed. they took his weapon and also his pepper spray. now, immediately, this area at fox lake, it's about 59 miles northwest of chicago, went on lockdown. grant community high school was placed on what's called a hard lockdown. the students were all given refuge inside classrooms. metra trains, that's the local commuter rail service, moving southbound have all been stopped moving through the area because there is a metra line that runs just adjacent to the shooting scene. and also we are told that the fox lake village hall has been
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closed. local businesses have been warned that suspects are in the area believed to be on foot and should be considered armed and dangerous. so a very tense situation up there in the area for -- for a shooting which unfolded what are we now, 11:41 chicago time. so about 2 1/2 hours ago. >> phil, is this community very rural or is this considered a bedroom community of chicago? how would you describe it? >> reporter: absolutely, it is a bedroom communive of chicago because it runs along the metra track. fox lake is part of what's called the chain of lakes which is north west of chicago just up along the wisconsin border in lake county, illinois. a lot of people commute from fox lake into chicago. >> and joining us also is craig melvin in the newsroom at 30 rock. craig, we've seen this now, i think the press conference is about to start so let's go there.
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>> he described the subjects as two male whites and one male black. a short time thereafter he radioed into communications a he was in a foot pursuit when communication was lost with the officer. his backup officer arrived on the scene. located him injured with a gunshot wound. there are three sus spetds at large at this time. again, two male white, one male black. i don't have a further description. at this point we're -- this is a two-pronged investigation. so we have our -- we're looking into the apprehension of the three subjects at large. we're utilizing multiple resources for that. we have numerous canines on the ground checking for scents. we have numerous helicopters and aircrafts in the air. we have a large number of officers on foot conducting searches of the area. at this time -- in connection with that, we're working the investigation of the officer who was injured. so the major crime task force,
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lake county major time task force has been called in for that and is heading up that investigation. we'll have more information available as it progresses. possibly another press conference later this afternoon or this evening. at this time we're asking all area residents to remain inside. report any suspicious activity, any suspicious people by dialing 911 as we still have three offenders at large. thank you. >> condition on the officer? >> no. >> 7:52. >> phil rogers and craig melvin still with me. phil, what more do we know because this spokesman for the sheriff's office was citing three suspects and said the officer was injured, did not give a condition. >> right. they still are not confirming publicly that the officer has died. that came from a law enforcement source in to our newsroom about 45 minutes ago, andrea.
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and also that same information is being reported by numerous media outlets in chicago. of course, everybody hopes against hope that that's not the case, but the source was fairly impeccable about it at the time. the search, we should also mention, when the radio call first went out, let's call the illinois state police emergency radio network, they mentioned two individuals, male white, male black, armed with the officer's weapon. then about 15 minutes later they sent out an all call message adding that another suspect believed to be a woman, possibly was traveling with them, although they cautioned that that was unconfirmed. now, you just heard the officer say just now that they are, in fact, looking for three suspects in the region. >>. and they thought it was a male but three suspects indeed. craig melvin, we were saying before they started that news briefing that this is against the context -- in the context of
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the tragedy in houston. >> yeah. over the weekend, andrea, of course, you know, texas deputy darren goforth shot and killed at a gas station execution style, 15 times in his head and neck. at this point no motive. you know, this is -- against that backdrop, we should also note here, 24 officers, if this officer has been reported has been shot and killed, that would make the 24th police officer in this country who has been shot and killed this year. that's according to officer at the memorial page, it's a non-profit group that track such things. 24 officers shot and killed so far this year. and we've heard from a number of police officers over the past few days that this is, for them, a time of great anxiety in this country. these are men and women who do not do it for the money, the awards, the notoriety.
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these are folks who get up and put on a uniform every day knowing that there is a good chance that their life may at some point during the course of that day, be put in danger. but, you know, still waiting for a great deal of information. specifically surrounding the circumstances with which this officer was shot. but again, here we are just, you know, this is the second police officer shot in this country in just the past four days. >> it's really a grim statistic and a serious situation around the country. obviously for all of those in law enforcement and their families andern question friends and relatives, thanks so much, craig melvin, phil rogers. we'll get back to you as soon as we know more.
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parts of the europe. this is the scene at the train station this morning. hundreds of migrants crowding the platforms before police sealed off the area suspending service. the migrants mostly from syria and other war spots in the middle east gathered outside chanting freedom, freedom. police in vienna say more than 3600 migrants arrived there from hungary monday with most continuing on to germany. nbc's claudio lavanga is outside the train station in budapest. this is such an appalling scene. what is the outlook for these people if the train service is not viable to them? >> well, andrea, you can see right behind me those -- some of those hundreds of migrants have been camping out here in front of the train station since this morning are still here. you can probably hear them as well. they're still chanting same chants. they are asking for freedom. they're asking to go to germany. they are saying we are only humans just like you.
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well, they say they've been prevented -- well, they have been prevented from entering the station here. you can possibly see the cordon, the police cordon blocking the entrance of the train station. but only to migrants who say that most of them have actually bought tickets, expensive tickets to go all of the way to munich, germany, where most of them want to apply for asylum. they spent as much as $150. we've seen those tickets. we've seen the price. and they say that that was what was left of their savings. and now they don't have any money left to go elsewhere if they tell them they cannot board a train here. well, they say they have the right because of that to continue to germany. but the hungarian government has other ideas, doesn't agree. the foreign minister says that they will screen every single migrant to whoever wants to apply for asylum here can do that but he will have to wait for the lengthen asylum process to go through.
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if they find any economic migrants they will be sent back to the last country where they came from. well, that is serbia and that means they will be sent out, pushed out of the european union once again. but humanitarian organization, human right groups are saying that by using, by taking this tough stance against migrants the hungarian government is simply pushing the migrants in the hands of ruthless traffickers who charge hefty fees to get these people to germany wherever they want to go by packing them in over heated, overcrowded containers in the back of vans and truck, andrea. >> just appalling. and especially because germany has said that they will accept them. claudio lavanga, thank you for being there today. another big change at the catholic church through this pope. pope francis will allow priests to absolve women who have halt
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abortion it is they are contrite. i think in particular of all the women who have resorted to abortion, i'm well aware of the pressure that has led them to this decision. i know it is an exist sten shul and moral ordeal. i have met so many women and bear in their heart the scar of this agonizing and painful decision. ann is joining me now from new york. extraordinary language from the pope. and this is, of course, a month in advance of three weeks only, i guess now, before he arrives here in the united states. >> it is, andrea. but in practice it doesn't change much, especially here in this country. because understand this about the sin of abortion. under the teachings of the catholic church that sin can only be forgiven by the bishop. however, many bishops in this country delegate that responsibility to local priests. so women -- many women in this country can go to their local priest and get that sin forgiven. but not only is the pope asking
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the women to be contrite, he's also sending a message to those priests saying you must genuinely welcome those women and then give them a reflection or give them something to think about of what he calls the gravity of their sin. so what he is trying to do is make sure that his message of compassion is not just something that's heard around the world but is actually practiced in the local church. >> anne thompson, so interesting as we wait for the visit to cuba which he will be on, of course, and also then to the united states here in washington, philadelphia, and new york. and back to our breaking news out of fox lake, illinois. a manhunt under way for three men after a police officer was shot. nbc's craig melvin joins me now from new york. craig, do we know anything more about their efforts to apprehend the suspects? >> at this point we know that ms. in that area are looking for three men, two white men, one black man. they say that shortly after 8:15 local time there was some sort
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of foot chase and during the course of that foot chase at the end of the foot chase perhaps this officer was shot. local reporter there with wmaq citing a law enforcement source said that the officer is dead. we have not been able to independently confirm that. but again, i mean, at this point we know that schools are on lockdown. train service to this particular community has also been partially shut down. just to give you some idea of where this is in relationship to chicago, fox lake about 60 miles northwest of chicago. it's about an hour north west of chicago. very close to the wisconsin line. we also heard that the officer's weapon and pepper spray, both of those things were taken off of the officer. but again, at this point officers in that area, this massive man hunt that's under way, you're looking at video that was taken just moments ago and you can see some of the law enforcement officers on the ground there, helicopters,
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canine dogs searching for these three people. they are considered armed and dangerous. andrea? >> craig melvin, thank you so much. of course, we will have continuing updates on the situation there. and that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." our coverage continues with "msnbc live" next. ♪ isn't it beautiful when things just come together? build a beautiful website with squarespace. nbut your dell 2-in-1 laptoped gives you the spunk for an unsanctioned selfie. that's that new gear feeling. all laptops on sale, save $230 on this dell 2-in-1. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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the apprehension of the three suspects at large. utilizing multiple resources for that. we have numerous cane nine on the ground check for scents. we have numerous helicopters and aircrafts in the air. we have a large number of officers on foot conducting searches of the area. at this time in connection with that, we're working the investigation of the officer who was injured. so the major crime task force, lake county major crime task force, has been called in for that and is heading up that investigation. at this time we're asking all area residents to remain inside. report any suspicious activity, any suspicious people by dialing 911. as we still have three offenders at large. >> nbc's craig melvin is following the breaking details. craig, law enforcement telling our affiliate wmaq that that officer has died. >> yes. i was just listening to wmaq just two minutes ago. again, they are