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we continue to follow that breaking news on the massive man hunt for three suspected cop killers in fox lake, illinois. just north of about hour northwest of chicago. an officer is dead. the suspects are on the run right now. they are o armed. they are dangerousem more on that. in a moment. also a press conference from the lake county sheriff's department is expected at roughly 4:45. we'll of course bring it to you live when it happens. right now to the stock market. the market just closed. it was yet another ugly day. the dow finishes 468 points, off nearly 3%. sharon epperson joins me. sharon, is this all related to china? or is there more at work. >> there is a bit more at work. we're looking at september to start a lot of investors deputy want to see. the data we got overnight from china on manufacturing, on factory orders but weak.
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that was something that precipitated the slide we saw early in the session and it got even greater later in the afternoon. after we heard from a fed official who said based on the jobs numbers that we're seeing, it seems like the fed's target for raising rates has been method. that is a fed official who is not a voting member of who will decide what happens to interest rates. but still when the federal reserve speaks, the market listens. and that is something that some traders are saying contributed to the slide that we're seeing. others say hey we're look at the last few days of summer for some people who are still on vacation. we are also looking at the week there is not a lot of news coming out in terms of what will drive market action here in the u.s. not a lot of earnings reports from companies to give the market any lift or cause it to slide, whatever the case may be. so we're just looking at this selloff exacerbating. we're at a point now where the nasdaq has wiped out all of its gains for 2015 and the dow and the s&p 500 are in correction territory. meaning they are below 10% from
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where they were at the highs of the recent months. so all of this is concerning to a lot of investors. but others say, listen, if you have been in the market a long time you know this is bound to happen. it is a natural process in the markets. we just haven't seen it for about four years. >> we know the losses were wide spread today, sharon. who are the biggest losers? >> seem to be financials, energy and we're also looking at materials companies that have seen big losses. more than 3% or so. if you own those stocks, hard hit today. >> one more question quickly. you mention the comments from the fed member. is it reasonable to deduce at this point that interest rates could very well with going up? and if that is the ways we may see more days similar to today? >> absolutely. we are looking at many people were thinking that perhaps the federal reserve will raise rates in september or definitely by the end of the year. this commentary leading a lot of traders and investors to think maybe we will definitely see the fed raise rates in september.
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of course we don't know for sure but we do know that interest rates are going to rise sooner rather than later. >> sharon, from cnn welcobc. thank you so much. market down nearly 470 points today. back to the breaking news of today. the massive man hunt near chicago. the fbi has now joined the man hunt. for three armed suspects after a police officer was shot and killed earlier this morning in fox lake, illinois. law enforcement officials tell us that, again, the officer is confirmed dead. we're waiting on a news conference from the lake county sheriff's department. later in the hour. we're hearing it is going to happen roughly 4:45 eastern. several schools are on lookdown right now. residents are being asked to stay inside. trains are not being allowed to pass through the area. the officer was investigating three men before 8:00 a.m. local time. he said the men were suspicious. at 8:18 local time, this is part
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of the radio call that went out to all of the officers in the area. >> officer safety, man with a gun. and 128 honing in fox lake. wanted subjects are a male white and a male black that fled from scene taking the officer's side arm and pepper spray. shots were fired. >> moments later back up arrived, found the officer shot. five minutes after that initial dispatch call went out, this one went out. >> i'm here with lieutenant schimler. send everybody you possibly can. officer is down. >> the slain officer was a 32 year veteran of the force. i want to bring in former fbi profiler clint van zandt and jim cavanaugh, both on the phone. and the emily a reporter
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covering fox lake near the sight of the shooting. emily, what can you tell us about what's happening right now? >> the day remains much like it has since the beginning. there is a lot of helicopters. officers are all over the area. and we still just don't know a lot of what happened this morning. >> what do we know about the police officer? we're not using his name here. we believe we soo the name. we're not going to use that out of respect for friends and family. no one should find out that a loved one's been killed on television. but what can you tell us about this officer who apparently was a 32 year veteran of the force? >> well he's from the lake county area. we are still doing a lot of that reporting right now. and obviously it is difficult because nobody -- you know, we don't want the press to be the one that lets people know that this has happened. but a lot of that work is still happening right now. >> tell us a little bit more
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about this area. about lake county. >> fox lake is a former recreation area. it sits on the chain of lakes. which is a lot of boating here. a lot of water sports. a lot of the homes that were built here were built for chicago residents that would come out. but they have since been converted into the permanent residences. so just a middle class community, like many of the communities around. >> i would imagine this is around the time in the afternoon when students are being let out of school. is that still happening in lake county? >> at some of the schools. there are other schools -- the schools that were in the lockdown that are going to be released at normal, there is goin' to be a police presence. i'm not sure what's happening here at grant high school here in fox lake and the other fox lake elementary schools. >> much has been made over the past few hours about the terrain
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in the fox lake area and how that terrain could exacerbate the search for these guys. what can you tell us about the trairn there? >> well it is on the chain of lakes. so there is just a -- there is a lot of waterways in the area. and it is a pretty wooded area. and it is -- it is -- fox lake is kind of on the fringe of where the suburbs start to end. so, you know, there's been a lot of talk about how it is actually halfway, about equal distance between milwaukee and chicago. so there is a lot of suburbs that lead up to this area. but it is still somewhat rural. >> a wooded area? >> somewhat suburban too. >> would there be a lot of places for these guys to hide? >> yeah, actually. right on the other side of the lake that fox lake sits on is a state park.
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>> okay. emily if you can stand by for me a bit here. i want to bring in clint van zandt, former fbi profiler. clinton, what kind of person -- what kind of person would shoot a police officer, broad daylight, then take off? what do we know about that kind of person? >> well there is a lot we don't know right now. for example, what prompted this shooting? was the officer shot with his own gun? or did one of the suspects have a gun? we know the officer was in foot pursuit. he was looking at three suspicious individuals. he radioed in he was going in foot pursuit after the three. that is bad odds to begin with. 3 on 1. if they had weapons, they could turn on the officer. if they didn't, he's trying to get three people in custody by himself. it is still a very, very difficult task for one officer. so either one of the three had a
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weapon. or in some type of fight perhaps they got the officer's weapon away from him and he was shot at the time. what investigators, the fbi, marshal service, they will be trying to understand not only who they are but what the motive was. were they committing a daylight burglary? because it was 8:00. it was daylight. or could there have been a drug deal taking place and the officer stumbled upon the deal and when he got into the middle of it he thought he just had three suspicious people. as opposed to three people, maybe, heavily involved in drugs. so there is a lot we don't understand. hopefully law enforcement does. and our best case scenario is that they either know the identity of one or more of the three or perhaps that surveillance videos from some of the stores and businesses and are running those pictures down right now either on a vehicle or to identify the three suspects we're told about. >> jim, i know you have within
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involved in a lot of man hunts like this. we've seen some images of police officers literally going door to door in this community asking folks if they have seen anything unusual or heard anything unusual. beyond that, what else is law enforcement doing right now to try and find these three guys? >> well you know they are going to do the normal forensics there. the problem is that it's hard to get their identity off of that. if they can find something they might have touched, if they were trying to burglarize something. this really smacks to me of a crew. a crew trying to steal something. daytime, break into something. it could be a drug deal. but they are doing something. and that something is what made that officer suspicious. and that's why he stopped. and then they ran. and they are running because they are either doing a criminal activity or they are wanted fugitives or escaped prisoners. so there is criminality afoot. the officer stumbles upon it.
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they run off into the woods. and i agree with clint. we don't know if it is -- they had a gun or they used the officer's gun. it is pretty easy to am bishbus. a young atf agent we had ambushed in the woods. and he chased into the woods and the guy layed mind a bush and when he came by he kidnapped him and eventually shot him. it is easy in the brush to hide low mind a bush and tree and when someone comes by to jump on him. why did they shoot the officer? because they wanted to get away. and they want to get away because they are involved in crimes. whether it's being perpetrated at the moment or whether the fugitives are the escaped prisoners. that's what it feels like. i'm just telling you after working these types of scenes it feels like that to me by the way they stumbled on it.
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>> at this point it appears the officer saw some suspicious and went after these three by himself. how uncommon is that? is that unusual for an officer without the aid of a partner to pursue several individuals? >> well, you know, craig, officers do it all the time. you saw the new york state trooper who chased that escaped fugitive. he was a cop killer as well. through the woods up in new york state until when he got to the tree line he shot him to stop him. but yes he was chasing him. and it happens all the time because most of the cars are one officer, one trooper. but, you know, really it is very dangerous when you are by yourself chasing people in the woods. because they can hide on you easy. and, you know, an atf we worked a lot of heavy surveillance on militia and clansmen and all these guys way out in the woods and sometimes fortified compounds. and you have to be really careful when you move into the
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woods on anybody. you have to be well prepared. know the terrain. you have to be specially trained. when you run as an uniformed patrol officer it is a great risk to you by yourself. unfortunately the officer suffered death by these killers. so he didn't do anything wrong. officers do it every day. but it is just a danger of the job when you are pursuing somebody through a wooded area. >> we've heard fox lake village hall is closed. we've heard the library is also closed. are there some businesses that are closed as well? schools remaining on lockeden there. >> i haven't come across closed businesses. there is only one major road closure and that is rollins, which is where the shooting occurred. everything else is still open. except for the library and village hall. >> the train service there? has it been fully restored? >> no that has not non been
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restored yet. >> so again we have part of the community that's being cutoff from chicago, presumably, by train service. are they running buses? >> can you repeat that? >> are they running buses? >> there were some buses running. i did see them earlier today. but i'm not sure if that has been stopped in the meantime. >> emily, do we know if law enforcement is telling people to stay inside and lock their doors? >> yes. the last notification that went out from the lake county sheriff's office was asking residents to stay inside. they have not issued anything else since that point. on the topic. >> all right. again we are waiting on this news conference in lake county illinois. the man hunt continues for three suspects after a police officer was killed in broad daylight there. again, lake county roughly 60 miles northwest of chicago. equidistant between chicago and milwaukee, wisconsin. we've got to take a quick break.
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we're back. we continue to follow the breaking news in lake county, illinois. fox lake specifically. this is a town of roughly 10,500 people 60 miles northwest of chicago. equidistant between chicago and milwaukee. 8:00 local time a call went out that an officer was down. the responding officer discovered that a 32 year veteran of the force had been shot and killed. the man hunt ensued immediately. they have been looking for three suspects ever since. two white guys, one black guy. they are believed to be armed and extremely dangerous. we're waiting on a news
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conference to start there. at probably 4:45 eastern time we're told. i'm joined now in addition to jim cavanaugh and clint van zandt and emily coleman whose a reporter with the local paper there. sean henry as well from washington, a former fbi executive assistant director. eugene o'donnell, a former professor of law and police studies is also with me. let me start with you if i can sean. all of this happening this afternoon and today against the backdrop of what happened in houston texas this weekend. texas sheriffs deputy darren goforth shot execution style at the gas station, 15 times in his head and back. prosecutors believe he was targeted simply because he was a police officer. being a police officer right now in this country, is it more dangerous now than it has been
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in the past? >> you know, i don't know if we can say it's more dangerous. certainly there are statistics we can look at that help to bear that out. i think technology has made policing more effective. but with some of the things we've seen, violence in communities, the guns throughout this country, policing is a dangerous profession. my brothers a police officer. my father's a retired police officer. i was in the fbi for 24 years. i think we all know when we get up every morning and go out that it's a dangerous profession and that there is a likelihood something bad is going to happen. here you have an officer 32 years on the job. he goes out, gets up this morning, kisses his family goodbye and he's not going to be coming home to dinner tonight. police officers around the country know that when they get up that that could potentially happen. that is why you have this brotherhood, this family, and you have police officers there
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in fox lake and all over. from the fbi, state, counties, local police agency, probably from other state agencies as well. all together because this is a family and recognizing this is dangerous and we're putting lives on the line day in and day out. we a need to help protect each other. >> and these are men and women who decide to put on a uniform every morning, wear the badge. they do not do it for the money. and they don't -- they clearly don't do it for the money or the fame or the accolades and awards. what motivates a man or a woman to go out and become a police officer? >> -- show up to a call where somebody is being beaten on the other side of the wall -- other side of the door and somebody won't let you in. the door is coming down. you are going to bring that person to safety. so this is an extraordinary job. [inaudible] and to the extent of my mixed messages in the last year i
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think people should be very clear. the american public does support the police. they have no tolerance for violence against the police. ununequivocably, guarantee as the former cop and prosecutor these guys are the caught. whatever theette nis of the jury. the evidence is there and they got to be locked up. and for the people unbalanced out there that have access to weapons and they think there is some e kwifgs. we need to be loud and clear you can't attack the police and get away with it. they are going to come and bring you to justice. and it won't be the police. it will actually be the people that will actually deliver the final verdict. it will be our justice system through ordinary citizens who will be sickened by an attack on police people who come to help other people irrespective of who all those people are. so plenty of room for criticism in police abuse. plenty of room. we have a system broke in a lot of ways but nobody around the country should get a message from anybody that it's all right
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to attack the police. this goes to the core of our civilization and our democracy. >> clint, the fbi is involved in the investigation now. we got word that the agency was going to be involved shortly after all of this started. how does that change the investigation? >> well, the fbi brings a number of resources. number one, just people. you can probably bring three, four hundred fbi agents from chicago and get them to the scene very quickly and put them on the street helping support the local and state officers who were there. number two, the fbi is in a position to handle any out of state leads, any investigation in any state other than illinois where that investigation would need to be done. number three, the fbi, just like atf and the marshal service has a lot of experience working major cases. and they very quickly can come in with computerized
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recordkeeping, lead following systems that will help to support local agencies who just either haven't had a major case like that or don't -- or don't have the technology to support an investigation. right here you are showing helicopters. the fbi can bring those type of air assets in, as can other federal agencies. so there is a lot that the federal government can throw at the situation like this. and realize, 7:52 p.m. that is when day turns tonight in that area. they are going to need night vision capability on helicopters. on the men and women on the ground. they are going to do have to have shift changes. people are going to have to go home and get some rest. all of the federal agencies can help support and provide, should the situation go onto the next day. >> jim cavanaugh. in situations like this, and again you have been involved in a number of them, it does not appear as if these guys had some
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sort of clear plan. if you shoot a police officer and you take off, where do you go? what do you do? >> right, well, you know, if they remained on foot in the woods for any amount of time, the officer ought to be able to track them down pretty quick. you know if they can make their way to a hidden vehicle, that changes a little bit. we don't know that. but yeah it doesn't look like, you know, that the purpose of this was to kill the officer. that does not mean it is not premeditated murder. they attacked and shot the officer down in cold blood. i'm not saying that. what i'm saying is it seems like some other criminality was afoot. a burglary in progress. a drug deal. you know, it could have been -- maybe they are just wanted people. but they were suspicious to the police officer. and craig, when you are a police officer and you see people doing things you have this innate sense this isn't right. i'm going to stop and check it out. and a lot of times you just talk to them and oh well, you know,
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my sister-in-law asked me to pick this up over here. and you are pretty well in a few minutes if it's legitimate you can sort through it. okay i see who you are. you are not hiding your identity. you say you are going to pick something up here. okay. well you make a phone call. you can sort it out. and police do that all day, they check routine things and sort them out. but this as soon as the officer engages verbally or challenges them they take off running. maybe they just see him and take off running and he pursues and then we have the cold-blooded murder. their intention -- what i'm saying is there intention doesn't look like it was to go and kill a police officer. there was other criminal activity afoot and then this engagement. this is the danger of police business. it is the danger inherent in the business. you can't ever get away from it. like being in the military. there are people out there that want to kill you because you are law enforcement. there are people that hate you because you work for law
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enforcement. and there is also criminals who will do anything to get away. they don't want to be in jail or be arrested and if they can hurt you they will hurt you to get away. and i think that is what we had today. they wanted to get away no matter what. and that usually -- not always, but usually shows some criminal experience. some criminal experience. it is not always true. but people don't want to go back. you will hear so many times i'm not going back. i'm not going back in the joint. they know what it's like in there and they don't want to go back inside. >> sit tight for me guys if you will. emily sit tight as well. when we come back i want to talk a little more about the relationship between police and the policed in this particular community as we continue to watch this massive man hunt go on in lake county illinois. again, they are looking for three suspects. two white, one black. they are believed to be armed and extremely dangerous.
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model year end sales event ends on labor day. so hurry in to your local volkswagen dealr toda! welcome back. we're waiting on a news conference. and again we are not going to identify the slain officer just yet. we are waiting for official word. and typically in situations like this, there are a number of friends and family members that have to be notified before we notify people. but again, news conference at 4:45 we expect. we expect the name of the officer and a little bit more information about the officer to be released at that time. but i'm joined now by a panel of experts. law enforcement experts and also emily coleman who is a reporter with the northwest harold, fox
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lake, illinois. emily, let me come back to you quickly. talk to me if you can about the relationship between police and people who live in fox lake? how would you character that relationship? >> i mean -- i don't think that you could classify there as being any issues. a lot of communities out here, this is actually where a lot of officers live. so, you know, these tend to be pretty solidly pro law enforcement communities. >> how are people there on the ground that you have interacted with, how are they reacting to all that's happened in that city today? >> i think people are just shocked. i've heard from a couple of people that it is just kind of surreal to hear your hometown on major television networks. it isn't something i don't think anybody expected to happen here. >> erik fogel joins me now. a retired maryland state police sergeant who specializes in
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training blood hounds. jim cavanaugh is still with me and so is clint van zandt. let's talk about the role of the blood hounds here. again, as clint pointed out, in a couple of hours they are going to lose daylight there in fox lake. what happens then? can the blood hounds still be used effectively if there is no sunlight? >> oh absolutely. blood hounds can trail anywhere from four hours to a couple of days depending on the environment. i don't think that is going to be the hindrance with that. the biggest problem they will probably have is contamination, when you factor in that this is going through kind of a rural area into a residential area. so obviously you have a lot of other people in there. but if the blood hounds get on a specific track and they are able to have a good scent article they should be able to follow the trail of whatever that scent article is. and that is one of the main
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reasons they do use blood hounds is because of their ability to scent discriminate and ability to run trails that are older and more difficult the run. blood hounds are trained, bred over hundreds of years for tracking and trailing. that is one of the reasons we use them. plus their capabilities of their nose. german shepherds have about 125 to 150 million olfactory cells whereas blood hounds up to 2 million. i don't think in this search that will be a hampering effect. i think the biggest difficulty is going to be having a good scent article to scent off of ar a last known position where to start the trail. >> all right. we can confirm now that the identity of the slain fox lake police officer is charles j. glenwits. charles glenewicz.
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that was confirmed by the county sheriff's department. gliniewicz. married, four of four. shot dead this morning. let me brick you back in jim cavanaugh. we know this is a heavily wooded area surrounded by lakes. we know that probably makes it a tad more challenging. we also know that in situations like this, there is a perimeter that's set up. what is the likelihood that these guys could have gotten beyond the perimeter before it was set up. how quickly is a perimeter set up in a situation like this? >> it is really hard to do. it is really hard to set up a perimeter that fast and it is also hard to even keep people on foot contained. they can slip through the
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perimeter. i had -- slip through a perimeter we had 400 troopers and uniformed officers and federal agents around an area like this and when darkness set in the guy slipped through the cordon. they can do it. but if there are three of them in the woods if they were on foot they are not really going to last too long. with officers coming in quickly and get on their heals they might could catch them. that remains to be sceeen. or they could have gotten a vehicle and got a tip and they could have their identity and working leads like that. we should find out in a few minutes whether they think they are in the woods on foot or have gotten away in a vehicle or something. and like the maryland trooper said, former trooper said, the blood hounds, been behind many teams, not as the handler but tracking fugitives and the prisoners and everything when they have something to smell
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like an article of clothing they can really get on heavy. i don't know what they have here other than shoe prints. >> let's take a quick break here again. just a few minutes now away from the news conference. charles j. gliniewicz. 32 year veteran of the police force. father of four. [ school bell rings ] ♪ [ female announcer ] everything kids touch at school sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. you handle life; clorox handles the germs.
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back now as we continue to monitor what's happening in fox lake, illinois. police officer shot shortly after 8:00 this morning. responding to a call. and there's been a man hunt, a massive man hunt that's been going on ever since in that part of illinois. just to give you perspective of where lake county is, where fox lake is specifically. we're talking about the town a city that is 10,500 people, hour northwest of chicago, roughly
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equidistant between chicago and milwaukee. it is a lot closer to the wisconsin line than it is to chicago proper. on the left side of your screen there, you are seeing part of this man hunt involving every available law enforcement agency member in that part of the country. helicopter, blood hounds also out. right side of your screen again, this news conference set to get under way we're told in roughly five minutes. i want to bring in illinois state representative barbara wheeler now. her district includes fox lake. representative wheeler, i also understand that you knew a little -- you know a little bit more about this officer. >> i -- hi craig. and i'm sorry we are talking under these terrible circumstances. this area as you said is a small community. very, very tightly knit. and the communication fortunately has been very good. and in conversation with people who know him well,
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affectionately refer to him as g.i. joe. he served proudly, his country in the military. his four sons, two are in the military now. terrible tragedy. it is going to devastate the community. the man is embedded in the schools. he taught the explorer program within the middle school and high school. in training other officers to become officers. so it's horrific. >> what more are you hearing barbara about the circumstances that led to the shooting this morning? >> just that he -- as you had reported, he had gone in on a call for suspicious activity. and was unsure as how g.i. joe was ambushed. did he just see the two? did the third person come up from behind him? because he has such strong
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military background and is obviously a well-trained officer. how could something like this happen to such a strong and well-trained officer? so the thought perhaps is that he was ambushed and taken by surprise. and as you have also reported the area is very marshy, it is not well lit. there probably isn't surveillance cameras. so it would be easy to get away on foot. easy to hide. and, you know, fortunately the police and lake county sheriff got the information out immediately to the residents and businesses and schools and locked them down and is now doing a door to doorman houunt. and i believe that is how they picked up the first suspect. >> are you hearing that law enforcement has one of the three suspects in custody? >> that is what i just heard, yes. it is thought to have happened
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from the door to door search. and thought they were in the area and taking refuge in one of the homes nearby. >> was the suspect taken into the custody without incident? was the custody -- excuse me, was the suspect apprehended after some sort of struggle? standoff? >> that is my understanding that the state police were able to take him. i don't believe there was any incident. but i'm not for sure. all of this is unfolding very quickly. and we're getting little bits and pieces now. and we hope to find the other two very quickly. >> do you get the sense on the ground there that law enforcement has a pretty good idea where these other two suspects might be hiding? >> i don't. i -- you know, i have a hundred percent faith in fox lake and lake county police. i know the state police are involved as well as the conservation police. it is surrounded by conservation areas right up to the wisconsin
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border. the facts that they are unsure is whether they are in a vehicle would imply they are probably on foot finding some kind of place to hide. could be a home. maybe they separated. we really don't know. and hopefully they will be able to to get as much information from the first suspect. >> we should note here again, representative barbara wheeler, state representative there in illinois, represents the area that includes fox lake. reporting right now that one of the suspects is in custody. nbc news has not been able to independently confirm that. we're working to confirm that right now. we also expect we may get more information on that when the news conference that you see at the bottom right on your screen there, there is a news conference set to start any moment now. when that starts, of course, we will bring that to you live. barbara, how are folks on the ground reacting there? >> the fox lake community is a
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very strong faith community. they are praying for their officers. they are playing there is no further incidences that occurred that anyone gets hurt? but they are also, you know, circling the wagons and making sure that everybody is cooperating with law enforcement and doing what they are being told and being on the lookout for any other strange and suspicious activity. >> i want to ask you a question. one more question before i let you go. because again we're having this conversation and this tragedy in the wake of a tragedy that happened in texas over the weekend. we had a police officer there gunned down, killed execution style at a gas station parking lot. prosecutors there say they believe this officer was targeted for merely wearing the uniform. at this point in fox lake is there any reason to believe that officer gliniewicz was targeted? >> i don't believe so.
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the information will continue to unfold. i believe it was an officer who was conducting surveillance on a suspicious activity and he came upon three men, perhaps, you know, the speculation is correct and he thought there were only two and he was ambushed by the third. there is no reason to think there is any race issues involved in what happened this morning. >> state representative barbara wheeler. representative wheeler, thank you so much and our thoughts and our prayers with the people of fox lake, specifically the family of officer charles gliniewi gliniewicz. thank you. >> thank you. >> dan moran is a reporter for the chicago tribune. he is also on the scene in fox lake. also joined by jim cavanaugh. dan, in fox lake on the ground, any new information to report right now?
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>> i'm on foot as we speak heading to the press conference you were talking about. and it is a traffic nightmare in fox lake. you have a high school maybe a mile from here. a middle school about a half mile. they delayed. they are on lockdown all day. kids couldn't even leave to go lunch. they are letting them know now. parents are picking them up. pardon me in i'm a little out of breath. i'm hustling to the press conference. but yeah the last half hour has been a real beehive of activity. some of the helicopters that were flying earlier are down now. squad cars, active lights everywhere. so there are -- you know, you have more information than i have while i'm on the move here. as i run across the street here hold on. >> do you know what, dan? i have been where you are right now. trying to hustle to a news conference on live television. i'm going to give you a moment to get there and catch your breath.
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and i'll come back to you in just a few moments if that's okay with you. >> good deal. i'm like right here now. looks like they are firing up. thanks guys. >> lenny de paul, former u.s. marshal. let me bring you in. and again, i would imagine, lenny and you correct me if i'm wrong here. i would imagine the marshals get involved in situations like this when you have a city that is so close to a border of another state. is that why? or is there more to it than that? >> no. i mean the expertise that the u.s. marshals, being the premiere law enforcement agency in the man hunting world, they bring a lot to the table. they deputyize so cross state lines and pursue the predators but the marshal service has been doing this so they bring a lot of expertise and funding whatever is needed to apprehend the suspects.
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>> lenny let me cut you off a moment here. -- oh not yet. well, again this news conference, bottom right, wesh starting to see some activity. we are starting to see folks line up there behind the microphone. we expect an update, we're told. we're told that the lake county sheriff's office will have a number of speakers here. detectives, the sheriff himself is also expected to address the media. there was a news conference earlier today. in fact there's only been one other news conference today in relationship to what's happened. it was very short. four minutes maybe. no questions were taken. our expectations is that this will last a little longer and maybe some questions will be asked and answered there as we try to learn a little more about the slain cop as well. we know he's a 32 year veteran of the force there. in lake county. his name is charles gliniewicz. he is married. a father of four. two of his sons, two of his boys active duty military.
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we learned a short time ago that gliniewicz himself apparently was also a military man. jim cavanaugh, this is something we see all over this country. a lot of folks do their time in the military. when they decide they want to retire or do something else, they decide to go into law enforcement. nope -- jim -- >> a lot of were military police officers. c.i.d. in the army or air force or navy. great investigators a lot of them. great military veterans [ inaudible ] since the dawn of the republic. and here is an example of an officer who was a military veteran and 32 year law enforcement veteran. so really sad day for law enforcement in illinois to lose a good man like that and probably the reason is not going to be anything that monumental. it is, you know -- they could
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say oh, you know, this guy, he [ inaudible ] it is going to be something really, really stupid to get away from some minor crime. and you know that they went ahead and killed this officer. these guys might have been just ran away on foot. the reporter said one was caught at a nearby house on the neighborhood check. whether that's where he lived or where he might have just hid out and the neighbor called or something. it is going to be enlightening to hear what the sheriff tells us because it is going to put at least a little basic facts on the assault this morning when he gives us, you know, who this guy is that they have arrested. is he a local person? did he live in that house? you know, was he armed? what is his criminal record? you know what was afoot when the officer was murdered? so it's going to be a lot of information. even if they don't give a ton of information, it is going to shed light on the activities in fox lake this morning. >> there are a lot of questions. a lot of questions that still have to be answered here.
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and again, we should note, according to dan moran, a reporter with the chicago tribune who is at the news conference that is about the start, several of the schools that were on lockdown appear to be off lockdown. some soft students are being allowed to leave the school if their parents are picking them up. just to bring you up to speed on what happened in fox lake this morning. it was shortly after 8:00 local time, just before 8:00 local time, rather. there was an officer there, officer charles gliniewicz was on a routine patrol, noticed three guys that were suspicious or at least doing something suspicious. and he radioed he was in foot pursuit. he decided to give chase. communication with officer gliniewicz was lost shortly after that chase started. moments later back up officer arrived at the scene. found gliniewicz had been shot. we're told he died at the scene
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there. we also found out at a news conference shortly thereafter that he had been stripped of his pistol. he had also been stripped of his pepper spray as well. at this point we do not know if that was taken after the officer had been shot or if those things were taken during some sort of -- some sort of scuffle between the suspects and the slain officer. but again, officer charles gliniewicz, a 32 year veteran of the police force we're told in fox lake. married. father of four. had four sons. two of his boys are active duty military. fox lake is a town of about 10,500 folks. a suburb of chicago. it is about 60 miles northwest of chicago. it is however closer to the wisconsin border than it is to downtown chicago. it is equidistant we're told between chicago and milwaukee. on the left side of your screen
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there in the big box, that is some footage that we are getting from our helicopter there in chicago of what appears to be a man hunt that continues at this hour in the air, on the ground. blood hounds are being used. the u.s. marshal service is involved. the fbi is involved. on the bottom right portion of your screen there is a news conference that is set to get under way any moment now. the lake county sheriff's office set to give us an update. in fact that is start gt right now. let's been listen. >> my name is chris cavell with the lake county sheriff's office. before we get started i want to mention we won't be taking questions but we're here to give a statement. i'm joined by mayor schmidt of the village of fox lake. sheriff mark curran. and undersheriff ray rose. this morning at approximately 7:52 preliminary investigation indicates fox lake police
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lieutenant joseph gliniewicz had encountered three suspicious subjects. he advised his radio communication he was out with three suspicious subjects. two mail whites and one male black. shortly thereafter lieutenant gliniewicz informed communications he was in a foot pursuit. his communications then lost contact with him. when our first responding back up units arrived at the scene, they located lieutenant gliniewicz injured with a gunshot wound. a massive search is now under way. this is a three pronged investigation. we have the aggressive search to apprehend the offenders that are at large. and again they are being described as two male whites and one male black. we have the evidence processing at the scene. and we have the investigation into exactly what occurred here today. we are using many resources.
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we're use iing numerous air uni to search if in above and look below. using numerous canine units trying to sniff out and grab ahold of the scent of the offenders and numerous police officers across northern illinois as well. and we're joined by state and federal agencies as well. we're asking residents in the fox lake area to be on the alert if they see anything suspicious to dial 911 immediately. anything out of the ordinary, anything they are not used to seeing in their subdivisions. no tip is too small. and we're asking for the community's help on locating anything suspicious. at this time i'm going to turn the microphone over to mayor schmidt of the village of fox lake. >> today not only did fox lake lose a family member. i lost a very dear friend. lieutenant gliniewicz was a 30
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year veteran, a decorated police officer, a family man and a dear friend to the entire village of fox lake. response today by law enforcement from local, state and federal agencies has been remarkable. we would like to thank each agency and each officer who is out there right now assisting our efforts. understandably our officers are having very difficult day today. we lost a family member. they are dealing with the loss of their colleague, partner, while also identifying efforts to find the person responsible for this senseless tragedy. our community is having a very difficult time. in the coming days will be even more difficult as we remember him as a police officer, a father and a member of our community. g.i. joe was a father of four boys, a decorated police officer and a asset to our community. many residents in here knew him
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as g.i. joe and remember him as someone deeply committed to fox lake, to the profession and his fellow officers. going forward the focus is in three areas. the first is to mourn the death of lieutenant joe gliniewicz. his commitment to the people, this community, has been unmatched and will be dearly missed. the second is to ensure the people of fox lake are safe. as this investigation continues. we've been coordinating efforts with the school, increasing our police presence at all facilities and making sure parents are notified about the status of the schools. the minute we learned about the incident we immediately put the schools on soft lockdown and advised parents to pick up their children from school. we made a decision to dismiss students at 4:00 instead of 3:00 and are asking parents to pick up their children from the school. finally we continue to support the hard-working men and women out there today in this heat
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doing everything they can to find the individuals responsible for this very tragic incident. thank you. >> you have just been watching a press conference out of illinois. a police officer has been shot and killed in fox lake, illinois north of chicago. the officer has been identified as charles gliniewicz. he's described as the 30 year veteran police officer. he has four children. four boys. and has strong ties to the community. a man hunt is under way for three suspects that police say are armed and dangerous. officials are describing the suspects as three males, two white and one black. the shooting happened at roughly 8:00 a.m. local time. so the man hunt has been under way for 8:eight s.
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