defiant county clerk sits behind bars. i'll talk live with one of the women suing that county clerk and who now plans to get married today. good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt in for tamron hall. we start with joe biden's public and candid comments. they comments came last night in a synagogue in atlanta. andrea mitchell reports. >> reporter: the vice president spoke late last night at a lecture in an atlanta synagogue. it was during a question and answer period that he offered the most revealing insight to date on pursuing the presidency for a third time. >> the most relevant factor in my decision is whether my family and i have the emotional energy to run. >> reporter: after weeks of speculation, joe biden speaking

at length for the first time about a possible 2016 presidential run. >> unless i could go to my party and the american people and say that i am able to devote my whole heart and my whole soul to this endeavor, it would not be appropriate. >> reporter: it was already a tough decision for biden who has lost two previous bids for the white house and is barely three months removed from the death of his son beau. >> the other people in the race, and whether i can raise the money, and whether i can put together an organization, that's not the factor. the factor is, can i do it? can my family? there is no way to put a timetable on that. if i can reach that conclusion

that we can do it in a fashion that would still make it viable, i would not hesitate to do it. >> but supporters see an opportunity. amid new attention on hillary clinton's e-mail scandal. attorneys for a former aide who set up a server in hillary clinton's home said he will be testifying next week. the public is pouncing. >> if you have to defend something you did, it's probably not good for you as a politician. >> the honest to god answer is i just don't know. >> reporter: clinton's state department chief of staff did testify yesterday for nine hours, telling the select committee that no e-mails had been destroyed. but they're making changes to

the suppose he had report that cleared hillary clinton for anything related to benghazi. >> that is on tape, because right now andrea is conducting an exclusive interview with hillary clinton elsewhere in this building. you can watch the whole interview coming up next on "anderson mitchell reports" only on msnbc. donald trump said he supports anyone who makes a gop pledge. >> i don't intend to break it. that road to going independent is a very long and tough road, and even if you get there, if you've got 34, 35% and you win, you've got to go before the house of representatives and you have lots of republicans and lots of democrats, and i don't think they're going for trump. >> well, trump is also getting some heat this morning for struggling through an interview

on foreign policy. nbc's halley jackson is joining us from trump tower not too far from nbc studios in new york. you heard him, trump is in it to win it. >> he doubled down on it this morning promising not to run as an independent and promising to support whoever the residential republican nominee is. that made headlines over the last 24 hours, but right now trump is in the spotlight and feeling some heat. today fallout from a foreign policy fumble, donald trump missing of the coulds with the kurds. >> are you familiar with general solamani? >> yes. go ahead, tell me. >> he runs the quds forces.

>> the kurds have been -- >> not kurds, the qud forces. >> i thought you said kurds. >> i don't believe in gotcha questions, i'm not trying to quiz you on who the worst guy in the world is. >> when you're asking me who is running this, this and this, i will be so good at the military, your head will spin. but obviously i'm not meeting these people. >> when he say quds versus kurds, i thought he was talking about a long-running radio show. >> his republican rivals see it differently. >> gonk they'i don't think they questions at all. the questions you're asking is at the heart of the threat that we face. >> you said you would support trump if he gets the event wual nomination.

are you comfortable with his policy? >> he needs to face the fact that in our country today is islamic terrorism. he should know who the players are for sure. >> jeb bush signing his pledge of loyalty after trump signed his. an embrace between the outsider and the establishment, though not legally binding. >> what did i get for signing the pledge? absolutely nothing, other than the assurance i would be treated fair. trump hopes it will be him, and if it is, he promises he will be ready. >> the differences between hezbollah and hamas. >> it didn't hurt his standing in this race. the latest national poll shows

trump is still leading by double digits. alex? >> it's a question we're constantly asking as to why that is, but halley jackson, thank you for that. let's bring in our political panel. roger simon is the chief political columnist for politico. we're going to talk about donald trump pledging not to run as a third party candidate. anyone believe if trump wants to run as independent, he can find an excuse to get out of that pledge? of course, mr. trun was insist,. >> i think probably at this moment trump believes that he will be so well treated by the republican party because of his poll standings, he'll have no reason to leave the party. but i'm not sure that will remain. also we're all looking at only one side of this deal.

you know, it binds the other 16 to support trump if he's the nominee. is jeb bush really going to support donald trump if he's the nominee? >> that's a very good question, which he hasn't answered specifically. you heard our halley jackson asking that very question. matt, i do want to ask you about your take on trump's pledge. what do you think? do you agree with roger? he could get out of the deal? >> i think trump could get out of it. i don't think he will, because as he said, running a third party bid would be daunting, it would be a logistical challenge, and i think he thinks he can win. so this isn't donald trump being noble, this is donald trump being calculating, and i think he thinks a third-party bend would be difficult and a fool's errand, so why not go ahead and do this and take a wi one of the

republicans had against him. i think it was symbolic that he fly to new york to cut the deal. it reminded me of the pope going to paris instead of rome. it's kind of a symbolic thing, and you can see who is in charge here. i think it's donald trump. >> i do want to talk about foreign policy next. seemingly unfamiliar. do you think that's a big deal? >> i think it is a big deal. i don't think it will be a big deal in the election. george w. bush had a few problems, and he basically memorized a few names about it and the press got bored with tripping him up. we're in pretty dangerous times now. we're we understanding our way

to congress, trying to work out a deal for iran over the spread of nuclear weapons. this is not minor stuff. it helps to know the players. they all should, and correspond correspondly. matt, hugh hubert sure thinks he was being asked backward questions. he doesn't think trump has the temperament to be president. this set up the next show with you, which, by the way, you're co-hosting the debate. >> you've got carly fiorina included in the cnn debate and now you'll have this tension between hugh hewitt and donald trump, presumably.

this is just grauz for all of us wo who about the quds force. . this will be like not knowing. this guy, according to fell kinz, not looeg reserve forces in iraq. this is a guy incredibly important in. i'm not a foreign policy walk-through by any stretch, but donald trump is perceived as having no political experience, and this really rein forces the concerns you would have about that. >> can i quickly go to vice president biden.

can you sense which way he's leading? >> running for president is an emotional meet glirer. it's a meat grinder if you win and it's a meat grinder if you lose. i've been interviewing men and women on election night for years, and they always talk about how draining it is. i do not see a presidential run as a healing process, and i would just find it kind of strange for the biden family to think they could be healed by this. on the other hand, i don't want to play armchair psychologist here. it's their family. they know what they need. on the other hand, i've never seen biden so down in the mouth as the clip just showed. >> yeah. give me a go or no with biden.

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licenses this morning. this was the scene at the rowan county clerk's office earlier as the first license was issued to the same-sex couple, that being james gates and irwin smith. five deputies agreed to issue marriage licenses to all couples. davis was in jail yesterday after the judge held her in contempt of court after continually defying her order. davis broke down in tears on the witness stand insisting she could not issue licenses based on her religion. her attorney said his client won't back down. >> one thing about kim, she may be behind bars but her conscience is free. she made a decision and can't violate that conscience and can't mix with her religious convictions. i think she represents lots of clerks in kentucky, lots of clerks around the country, and i

think there will be some effort to change and protect kim's religious freedom and many others like her. >> meet someone who was denied a license last week. they want to get a license today and have wedding plans for very soon from now. congratulations to you, welcome. >> thank you, alex. >> i know you were denied a license. you were in there three times and were denied every time. what does this mean to you, finally? >> this is almost like the supreme court decision day june 26 all over for us. we finally got the right on june 26, but we had an kbedmeimpedim here with a clerk who had religious beliefs who implemented our right to the law, and today we finally get that right. >> how hard was this for you along the way?

you must have been kind of stressed out about this. disappointment, to say the least. >> right. actually, we applied for our first license on june 26 -- or june 30, i'm sorry, and a second license on august 13th after judge bunting said the injunctive decision was marriage licenses must be issued. then we went again on tuesday of this week, september 1st, after his stay was ended, and that is what caused us to be requesting a contempt hearing. it's been a really up and down this past two months. >> a very emotional roller coaster for you. i want to take a look at what davis' husband joe said regarding his wife's arrest. >> we might well be in russia,

we might well be in iran or something, because we have no religious freedom no more. if we the people don't take it back, we're in trouble. not only are they coming after the christians, your next step will be the preachers. >> how long is your wife prepared to stay in jail? >> as long as it takes. >> what's your reaction specifically to what he said about religious freedom? >> it's really important to remember that religious liberty is one of the most important rights in our country via the constituti constitution. but it stops when a government office has to follow the law, and in this case the government office of the county clerk's office, ms. davis as deputy did not issue licenses that were lawful and belonged in our civil rights. you can't use the government office to portray or really to

use your religion against others' rights. >> uh-huh. uh-huh. i know you said you're sorry to see davis was jailed and it took a federal judge to get compliance, however, davis as an elected official cannot be fired, so what would you like to see happen to her? >> well, she really has the key to getting herself out. that is to either say that she will not impede the issuance of licenses here in rowan county, or it is to resign, or it is to remain in jail. that is her decision. our legal counsel actually offered that we were okay with releasing kim as long as she did not impede the process of issuances of licenses here. i don't know what will happen.

do i have a preference? that's up to kim. i can't make that decision for her. >> all right. well, it's a very generous spirit that you're expressing, april miller. best wishes at both you and i hope that you and karen have the best wedding ever. we'll look forward to getting pictures of that. thank you so much. >> thank you. joining me now is attorney john burris. john, welcome to you. going forward, what are davis' legal options, especially since she's an elected official? >> she doesn't have a lot of options available to her other than compliance. she can obviously sit in jail indefinitely, at least up to 18 months. she can also seek to have the legislature to provide a provision that allows for someone else in the county to issue these licenses, if she wants, or the legislature itself can decide how it wants to proceed around us. it's not uncommon for legislation to decide if the clerk and the county has a

religious preference not to do so, that the legislation then can provide that someone else can do it, like a judicial officer or something, a judge. that can be done if they want to do so. it might take a little bit of time because she is in custody, but she has 18 months she can be there. >> ohio state ken blackwell, a kim davis supporter, i want to play a little bit of what he said and get your reaction. >> this is civil disobedience in a very, very peaceful manner. so i don't think that she should be criminalized when, in fact, there were accommodations that could be made that respected her individual liberty and the right of this couple to be married. but we should not fake surprise when, in fact, we had a supreme court judicial fiat interrupt a

democratic process that was working this thing out. >> so he's reiterating two arguments her supporters continue to make, one to the supreme court overstepped its authority which led to this standoff, and number two is that she is being punished for exercising her religious freedom as they see it. what's your reaction? >> number one, i think he's misplaced on the issue of the supreme court. that decision has been made. that's done. secondly, though, it is a form of disobedience that she's engaged in, but there is a price to pay when you're engaged in that particular conduct. if she was not the public official in the county that had exclusive authority to make this decision, that would be something else. but to the extent that she is, her act of civil disobedience puts her authority versus the law of the land. i don't think she can overcome that easily by saying, as an act of law, i don't want to do it. there is a price to pay for civil disobedience and that's

what she's going to do. >> how about this, though? what if the judge lets her out, she gets back to work and she decides she's going to stop issuing licenses once again. >> she's going back to jail. if you do that, it might rise to the level of a criminal contempt, because you made a deliberate effort, you've been warned, you had a price to pay and now you've decided, i'm not going to do it, i'm going to defy the court again. developing this morning, markets are reacting to the market falling at a 7-year low. the dow is down 235 points. plus the new rules making it harder for government agencies to track your phone and keep your private information. it's one of the things we just thought you should know. which saves money. their customer experience is virtually paperless, which saves paper, which saves money. they have smart online tools, so you only pay

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plunging as wall street responds to the government's remarks to wall street earlier this morning. the dow is down 251 points or so. the jobs report added more than expected, however, the unemployment rate still fell to 5.1% much that 5.1%. that is a 7-year low. the focus is on whether they're going to add up to the fed raising interest rates in two weeks. >> what you said exactly hit the nail on the head here for what the markets are trying to handicap right now. we've had a number of good data points over the past few months that have arguably -- and i say arguably because the debate is huge right now -- arguably led up to the fed being able to raise interest rates from these crisis low levels and this jobs number, while it was weaker than expected, still adds a little bit more in terms of that overall economic strength to the case for the federal reserve

bank, our nation's central bank raising interest rates. the debate is big now, because there are those who say gasoline prices are falling. we're not seeing that kind of inflation. why is the fed going to raise interest rates if there is no need to? others are saying, hey, this is a sign of victory. the fed can raise interest rates because they can now say in essence,al l alex, that we are in a crisis situation and we can get back to normal. the markets at first glance seem to be taking this a little negatively. we'll see how it shakes out here. >> do you think it will show volatility here? >> we've seen more volatility over the past couple weeks than we have arguably for the past four years. the last time we saw this kind of volatility in the stock market really was a blip around the ebola crisis last fall, but it was when the u.s. debt got downgraded. that was in 2007. the traders we're speaking to here are prepared for more of this to come, but again, we're still not that far away from

record highs, so no real sense of panic, alex, among traders out there, at least not for right now. >> it sounds like we have to buckle up. thank you so much. coming up, another one of hillary clinton's top aides testifies before benghazi. how others are reacting to yesterday's testimony from her former chief of staff. it's the first read in politics. so you're a small business expert from at&t? yeah, give me a problem and i've got the solution. well, we have 30 years of customer records. our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. my drivers don't have time to fill out forms. tablets. keep it all digital.

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why are folks fleeing europe by the thousands? you mentioned syria. is that the crux of this? >> the two main entry points for europe is greece, and in greece you're seeing a lot of syrians and iraqis fleeing the war. i was off the libyan coast. the other main entry point is southern italy. what you're seeing there, in addition to syrians in iraq, is west africans, a lot of people from the horn of africa. people from the boat i rescued are almost all trans from africa. >> you witnessed, quote, most of the migrants had no idea how long their journey might last, though a few had been told by the smugglers that they could expect to reach italy in six to eight hours. in reality such a voyage would take at least six days, long past the point when almost all those on board would have perished from dehydration or exposure. >> right. yeah. it's amazing that they have absolutely no information, they have no clue.

on these boats -- they're very small fishing boats. there's 375 people on each of the two fishing boats i was involved in the rescue with. very few people knew how to swim. >> these boats were allotted for 150, 175 people at best? >> at best. i would say probably 75, really. the only way they fit that many people in is there was another 100 people down in the hold stocked like cord wood down in the hold, people on top of each other. there were actually three boats that went out the morning of this rescue. another rescue boat had found the third boat, and by that time already 13 people aboard that boat was dead. so this is the margin of tragedy that sets in. so the people we rescued had been on for about eight hours. you start seeing death at about 10 hours. >> these people, these desperate people, are trying to call together $1500 to these

smugglers. what's happening to them? >> very little is happening to them. they're tribal militias, they're organized crime outfits, and these people are utterly at the mercy of when they cross libya. the worst treatment is for black africans from west africa and non-muslims. i heard so many horror stories of people being raped, kidnapped, watching people just being shot for no reason, migrants. the utter impunity are what the smugglers are operating with now. >> how do you shake this off? you can't. >> i think one thing that happened is after these people were rescued, they were taken to italy. so i spent two days with these people, and just having the chance to talk to them and hearing their hopes for when they get to europe. of course, they were really happy to be rescued. >> hope springs eternal and we're glad you brought the stories and photos to us. thank you for joining us, scott anderson. if you would like to help with

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run a campaign. donald trump is already moving on to his next target, a conservative radio host who he accuses peppering him with gotcha questions. all that on a look at politics. why are you not issuing marriage licenses today? >> because i'm not. >> under whose authority? >> under god's authority. >> the supreme court cannot overrule the laws of nature and the laws of nature's god. >> the time to plead ignorance is surely in the past. those who want to ignore the science, they are increasingly alone. suddenly donald trump is the one looking over his shoulder, ben carson surging in iowa. z >> the state department has issued a giant collection of e-mails to hillary clinton's private server. >> this is another big blow to the clinton campaign. >> i've lived in manhattan all my life, so my views are a little different than if i lived

in iowa. i love the people of mexico. i love the hispanics. >> joining me now, msnbc political editor mark murray. hi, mark. >> hi, alex. happy friday. >> to you as well. jake sullivan, a top clinton aide, is testifying today before a congressional committee on benghazi. this comes, of course, after eight hours of testimony yesterday from clinton's former chief of staff, cheryl mills. this is being conducted behind closed doors, but what are sources saying about what they've been telling the investigators. >> alex, it's not only behind closed doors but they're not even releasing a transcript about the remarks. we were able to get a couple pieces of information from cheryl mills' testimony yesterday. the "new york times" said many knew hillary clinton was using a private e-mail account, many at the state department. it was hillary clinton's legal

department team, not her top lawyer david kyndall, but other people working who decided what to hand over to the state department and what not to when the state department said it needed e-mails from clinton back last year. >> mills' testimony, there is testimony here that's in contrast with the other big headline this week that clinton's former aide brian pagliano is not only pleading the 5th but he's refusing to cooperate with the state department attorney general. >> even the clinton campaign on the conference call yesterday admitted that her testimony on october 22nd before the benghazi committee is going to be a big deal. they also hope it will be a platform for her to be able to explain this e-mail issue and that there would be no more questions at all. of course, alex, it's worth noting that a lot of e-mail questions are coming up in the hillary clinton interview that andrea mitchell will be having and will be on in just a few minutes, so be sure to tune in for that. also hillary clinton is headed

to puerto rico to campaign where marco rubio also is this friday. >> i just want to say i listened to the very top of that interview. i got to see it in house. first question right off the bat, andrea is going right there. >> that's why she's andrea mitchell. >> of course. let's go to donald trump. he was all smiles yesterday when he said he signed that gop pledge, he promised not to run as an independent candidate. trump was on less than comfortable ground in an interview. here's a bit of that exchange. >> when you start throwing around names of people and where they live and give me their address, i think it's ridiculous. >> i wouldn't do that. >> you know what? in that case first day in office or before then, the day after the election, i'll know more about it than you will ever know. that i can promise. >> i hope so. >> we've heard this. it's often said trump is going to have to show a better grip on the policy issues at some point, but his answer always seems to be, don't worry about it, i'll

find the right people to deal with that, i'll know it better than you do on my first day in office. is that a message that resonates with voters? >> long term, i think it's a problem for donald trump. it's worth noting just a few weeks ago when chuck todd interviewed donald trump on "meet the press," one of the things chuck asked is where do you get your security advice, and he said, john bolton when i'm watching fox news. that raised a lot of eyebrows, but what was striking is the rival republicans really didn't pounce. but what's different this time around after that hugh hewitt radio interview, we saw some of the campaigns highlight, aha, this is the moment. we'll see if things turn where donald trump gets penalized for some of these answers. i just wonder if the worm is beginning to turn. >> all right, mark. have a great holiday. hope you get some time off.

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. . . well, new england patriots fans are anxiously awaiting next week's nfl season opener nins the steelers now the judge has thrown out tom brady's suspension. this morning they're gearing up for a fight while the commissioner roger goodell is facing tough scrutiny. from the boston globe, goodell is in quicksand and taking the nfl down with him. from the "new york times," found to over step authority, goodell pays the price. from the "washington post," deflategate exposed roger goodell as unfit to serve his office. league officials say goodell is planning to skip the opening game saying he believes the focus should remain on the game and festivities. meanwhile, brady was all smiles as his team took the field last night for the final preseason game hours after judge richard

berman issued his ruling. joining me now boston globe sports columnist dan shawn si. i want to look at the articles you wrote recently. one headline back in july. deal with it, tom brady and the patriots are cheaters. april you wrote, a hard rain's going to fall on tom brady and patriots. you wrote, the patriots have done nothing to inspire mercy from goodell since the report was released on wednesday. they have done what they always do, they have obstructed the investigation while they deny everything. let's fast forward today. you write, quote, the more he struggles and fights to assert his authority and execute his vision for the nfl, the deeper he sinks. he is taking the league's credibility with him. what's changed for ya? >> well, the ruling is for the judge indicates the judge didn't think he would be punished in this fashion. that's pretty much definitive. he was overpunished for this. most people here have thought that all along, he was overpunished. you can get into the quarrelling

of whether or not he's exonerated here because technically he wasn't. the judge didn't say this wasn't going on or wasn't going -- they didn't do it. he said they can't punish him to this degree over this and the punishment was lifted. >> what do you think about all the speculation that goodell overreached. he should have just gone for a one-game suspension and brady would have expected that? do you think he would have? >> i don't. i think tom brady is, again, his line all along has been he tells his owner, he tells his dad, i'm innocent, i didn't know about this. he's held to that. and i cannot imagine him, you know, after what he said under oath in court, in the appeals, that he would have taken one game. it was reported widely but i'll never believe it. >> speaking of appeals nfl is seeking one so brady is not completely out of the woods yet. what happens if he gets suspended during the season? >> you know, those appeals, we don't know a lot about this justice system. but everybody seems to think the appeals are very protracted process. earliest as next year on that.

tom could be retired by time they have an appeal ruling on this thing. >> you don't think it could happen -- i'm sure patriots fans are worried it happen on a wednesday and out for the game that sunday until, you know, legal minds try to do their thing and tap dance pretty fast? >> yes, i mean, the notion it would happen in november of this year and, you know, hurt their season this year, nobody believes the appeal is going to come down that fast. >> okay. so now that brady has at least for now beaten the nfl seems like he's more of a hero in boston. teflon tom was trending in social media. what do you think this does to his legacy, wipe out what happened to deflategate the longer he plays? >> again, you have to look at it nationally or regionally. i think nationally this is a hit. it's unfortunate. the team accepted the largest penalties in the history of the nfl. they accepted a $1 million fine, loss of two draft picks including a first rounder. that's there. they were found guilty. they accepted it. that stays. in this case the quarterback had his suspension lifted.

it was a holiday here yesterday. moving forward september 3rd will always probably be a holiday. >> does that stay, dan, because can't robert kraft now appeal that, can't that say, look, i agree to this because i thought i was doing the right thing at the i'm you by want my million bucks back? >> his son last night said he said never say never but it doesn't appear they have any intention of going back to get those sanctions removed. >> okay. dan from the "boston globe." thanks for joining us. appreciate it. that does it for this edition of "newsnation." i'm alex witt. i'll be back tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. and noon eastern time. but up next, andrea mitchell in the house in this studio. she's got the exclusive interview with hillary clinton. don't go away. buy a new gym ba. before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time and 2% back at the grocery store. even before he got 3% back on gas. kenny used his bankamericard cash rewards credit card

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