doors today. public testimony awaits her next month. the poll numbers, meanwhile, falling. democrats are worried about her 2016 prospects. clinton addressed all of these issues and many more with andrea. here's the interview for you in full. >> welcome, secretary clinton. thank you so much for doing this interview. you said recently that using your personal e-mail as secretary of state was not the best choice and you take responsibility. are you sorry? >> well, i certainly wish that i had made a different choice and i know why the american people have questions about it. and i want to make sure that i answer those questions. starting with the fact that my personal e-mail use was fully above board. it was allowed by the state department as they have confirmed. but in retrospect, it certainly would have been better. i take responsibility. i should have had two accounts,

one for personal and one for work related and i have been as transparent as i could asking that all 55,000 pages be released to the public, turning over my server, looking for opportunities to testify before congress. i have offered for nearly a year. finally the committee will give me a chance to testify in public at the -- toward the end of october and i'm going to answer these questions and i'm also going to continue to talk about when's important to the people that i meet about this presidential campaign because it really is critical that we renew the basic bargain of america so that if you work hard, you do your part, you can get ahead and pay for college and have equal pay for equal work and the important issues on people's minds. >> but this has created what even your campaign manager said are headwinds, noise out there. let's get through some of it. are you sorry?

do you want to apologize to the american people for the choice you made? >> it wasn't the choice and i have said that. i'll continue to say that as i've also said many times it was allowed and it was fully above board. the people in the government knew that i was using a personal account. but it would have been better if i had better two separate accounts to begin with and certainly i'm doing all i can now to try to be as transparent about what i did have on my work related e-mails and i think they will be coming out. i wish it were faster. it is frustrating it's taking a while but there's a process to be followed. >> well, since 1995, the state department foreign affairs manual said that all e-mails, all records had to be preserved. in 2005, the manual's updated to say, quote, sensitive but unclassified information should not be transmitted through personal e-mail accounts. the u.s. code of federal

relations updated to say that agencies that allow employees to send and receive official ele electronic e-mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that federal records sent or received on such existing systems are preserved by the appropriate agency recording system. >> uh-huh. >> there were a lot of advisories. no laws. correct. but a lot of advisories including white house against personal e-mail and especially exclusively. you say that just now you said people in the government knew you used personal e-mail. >> right. >> the recent e-mails released say the help desk didn't reck it. >> the people i was e-mailing to on the dot-gov system certainly knew and respond to me on my personal e-mail. but i do think it's a fair question. it was allowed and i chose to do it as others who had been in

high official positions had, as well. and i believed and it's turned out to be very much confirmed that the vast majority of everything that i was sending to a dot-gov, official government account, would be captured and i have gone the extra step and gone through all of the e-mails that i had from those four years in the state department to make sure that anything even being overly inclusive that could possibly be work related was made available to the state department. >> there was an inspector general's general last march saying in 2011 only 61,000 e-mails at the state department out of more than a billion were preserved because they system for five years was so bad and people didn't know how to use it, not trained properly so things weren't captured at the receiving end. >> well, that's not the case

with my e-mails. i know that our government and this is an issue we must address is not up to speed technically and there's a huge amount of information. i can just speak about the state department, certainly, but the entire government as we have seen with the white house and every other agency is struggling to try to keep up with the onslaugt of e-mails. >> does it concern you that people don't trust your answers on this? i mean, there was a quinnipiac and i know this poll was everyone -- republicans and democrats, but the first words that came to mind when asked about you were liar, untrustworthy, crooked. how does that make you feel? >> well, certainly doesn't make me feel good but i'm confident by the time this campaign has run its course people will know that what i've been saying is accurate and i will have a chance to do that in front of the entire world with the congressional committee hearing.

they may disagree as i now disagree with the choice i made but the facts that i have put forth have remained the same but more importantly, the american people will know that they can trust me coming to standing up for them and fighting for them and being their advocate air than champion and i think that's what this election when it's all said and done has to be about. who has the vision for america? who will be there every single day trying to renew the basic bargain that americans should expect from the country, who can get results and the fe nasty and the skill to do that and i'm very confident that the american people will believe i do and will support fe more president. >> a couple of other quick points. why did you wipe the server clean even after you know more committees were investigating and why delete the 30,000 or so e-mails that were deemed personal and how were -- how did

you decide what to delete and whatnot to delete? >> i'm glad you asked that. i think it's a question that people have. in the fall, i think it was october, of last year, the state department sent a letter to previous secretaries of state asking for help with their recordkeeping in part because of the technical problems that they knew they had to deal with. and they asked that we, all of us, go through our e-mails to determine what was work related and provide that for them. the letter came to my lawyers. i asked my lawyers to please do that and it took weeks but they went through every single -- >> the lawyers went through it? >> yes. every single e-mail. and they were overly inclusive. if they thought anything was connected, in fact, so inclusive the state department has already told us they're going to return 1,200 e-mails because they were

totally personal. at the end of the process, following the request of the state department, they had to print out all those e-mails work related. it was 55,000 pages. those were delivered to the state department. they kept a thumb drive that was delivered to or kept by my lawyers under lock and key. that left all the personal e-mails and i was asked, do you need to keep your personal e-mails? i said, no. you can delete those and they were. but that doesn't change what we were asked to do, how carefully we did it and how even the state department said, we sent them things that they don't believe they should have gotten. >> do you know what a lot of people are asking? why? why have just a personal system? you've said that it was because it was convenient. >> yes. >> clearly from the e-mails released it wasn't convenient. there were a lot of, you know, confusing things, there were breakdowns, outages. why do that? were you trying to keep

reporters or investigating committees away? what was the defensive mode? >> no. i had a personal e-mail. when i was in the senate. as the vast majority of senators do. >> absolutely. >> it was very convenient. i do all my business on my personal e-mails. >> you have to know national security cabinet. >> that's why i'm so careful about classified information and as has been confirmed repeatedly by the inspectors general, over and over, i did not send or receive any material marked classified. we dealt with classified material on a totally different system. i dealt with it in personal person. i dealt with it on secure phone lines. i had the traveling team, the technical team that went with me, they set up tents so when i was traveling anything that was classified would be, you know, protected from prying eyes. i take classified material very, very seriously. and we followed all of the rules on classified material. now, what happens when you ask

or when a freedom of information request asks that information be made public, all the agencies get to weigh in and what you're hearing from other agencies is it wasn't classified at the time but now we think it should be. and that is not uncommon. in fact, if i'd had just a government account that was on the unclassified system they would go through the same process. so again, it's confusing and that's why i'm trying to do a better job of explaining it to the american people. >> you have said that collin powell did the same thing, a personal e-mail and a state.gov system and didn't just rely on a personal system. i don't think there's precedent for anyone just relying on a personal e-mail system at your level of government. >> well, i can't speak for him. that certainly has been

portrayed differently depending upon how it's considered. but this was fully above board. people knew i was using a personal e-mail. i did it for convenience. i sent e-mails that i thought were work related to people's dot-gov catalanottoaccounts. the vast majority captured by the system and made sure everything that we could be considered work related is in the system of the state department. >> did anyone in your inner circle say, this isn't such a good idea? let's not do this? >> i was not thinking a lot when i got in. we had so many problems around the world. i didn't really stop and think what kind of e-mail system will there be? >> raised judgment questions? >> well, i don't think so. i think that the facts are pretty clear that we had a lot of hard work, hard choices to make in those four years and i'm very proud of the work we did.

very proud of all the people i worked with. i think we really served our country well. and now, the state department has everything that they could have so at the end of the day, i am sorry that this has been confusing to people and has raised a lot of questions. but there are answers to all these questions and i'll continue to provide the answers and the answerenses confirmed and affirmed by the state department and other government officials and eventually i'll get to testify in public and i'm sure it will be a long and grueling time there but all the questions will be answered and i take responsibility and it wasn't the best choice. >> looking at the campaign now, you see huge crowds for bernie sanders and donald trump and people talking about joe biden having an opening if he decides to make a difficult choice on an emotional level which we understand. we talk about how authentic the candidates are. does it hurt you when people say

you're too lawyerly? you parse your words. you peer not authentic. you're not connecting. >> well, that's just not my experience out campaigning. i feel very, very good about where we are. we've built a terrific organization in the early states and we're expanding into those states that will be after iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, nevada. the level of support, the intensity of support that i'm experiencing as i speak with people and talking about issues that i know are on their minds. i want to be the president who deals with all those big problem that is are in the headlines. but also, those problems that keep families up at night. and that's why i started out listening because i think you can come with your own ideas and you can, you know, wave your arms and give a speech but at the end of the day are you connecting with and really hearing what people are either saying to you or wishing that you would say to them?

so on everything from mental health issues to substance abuse to college affordability to the continuing struggles that families face despite the fact that we have got a recovery and unemployment's down, people aren't feeling it, i am very excited and very energized by the campaign that i'm running. and, you know, after labor day, you kind of move more toward the laying out of your plans and moving toward debates and having the exchanges that you expect in a campaign. that's the next stage and i'm looking forward to that. >> are there real differences, big differences between you and joe biden? on domestic or foreign policy? >> i'm not going to address any of the political questions around my friend joe biden. he has to make a really difficult decision. you can see him struggling with it. and i just wish the best for him and his family. if he continues as vice

president, he'll continue to serve with great distinction. if he gets into this race, there's plenty of time to get into the debate and the back and forth but i think everybody should give him the space and respect he deserves to make what is a very difficult choice for him and his family. >> you're giving a big speech on iran next week. at the same time donald trump and ted cruz are holding a rally on capitol hill against the iran deal. what do you say to your friends, many of them in the jewish community, who think this is a terrible deal? >> right. well that's why i'm giving a speech next wednesday because i was involved in the preliminary work. i helped to put together the sanctions that pushed iran to the negotiating table. i was the person who explored the early efforts to see whether there could be a negotiation. so i believe that the agreement is not perfect. it is by no means some kind of

validation of iran. you know? my view is don't trust and verify. but it is a very important step and it is better than the alternative so on wednesday i would be outlining in great detail why i support the agreement and what i would do as president to enforce it, to hold iran accountable, and to make clear that no options were off the table, that they can never, ever have a nuclear weapon. so this is not only about the agreement and what looks to be its approval by the congress, it is about what comes next and i think that the american people are going to want a president who supports diplomacy even with those who are our adversaries to try to reach the kind of understandings that we have, but who will also get up every day and enforce that agreement, strongly and vigilantly and i think that's a far better

approach than some of the words you will hear on the same day that i deliver my speech from those who apparently don't believe in diplomacy, the hard work of putting together international coalitions, don't believe in trying to get the best deal you can and then don't believe it needs to be enforced the way i would enforce it. >> donald trump, among other things he's done, has really personally attacked one of your closest aides, huma abadine. what was your feeling about that? >> he's attacked so many people, including my close aide and myself and many other people. you know, i can take that. i mean, that's just par for the course. i do regret that he is going after so many people. many of them by name. from great basketball players to people who express different opinions from him. i think it's an unfortunate

development in american politics that his campaign is all about who he's against, whether it's immigrants or women broadcasters or aides of other candidates. he is the candidate of, you know, being against. the vision that i have for america is how we come together. how we work together. how we set big goals again. whether it's combatting climate change and getting moving on clean energy or whether it's making college affordable. i have specific plans about what i think would be good for the american people and good for us as a nation. i think we are a great country and i think we are great because of our values, because of our history, because of the way we have overcome adversity, we keep moving toward a more perfect union. that's what i'm running on. he can run his own campaign. unfortunately, he can do what he's doing which i think is a

bad development for our american political system. >> do you think he had a point in raising the question of whether it was appropriate for her to be taking a state department salary and also be paid by an outside company closely associated with your husband by you? >> well, i was not directly involved that. everything she did was approved under the rules as they existed by the state department. and so, i, again, he can -- you know, he's great at innuendo and conspiracy theories and really defaming people. that's not what i want to do in my campaign and that's not how i'm going to conduct myself. and i also believe the president of the united states does have to be careful about what he or she says. you know, i do know, people say i'm careful about what i say. that's because for more than 20 years i have seen the importance of the president of the united states, the leader not only of our nation but of the world,

having to send messages that will be received by all kinds of people. loose talk, threats, insults, they have consequences. so i'm going to conduct myself as i believe is appropriate for someone seeking the highest office in our country. >> as someone who has such a record in foreign affairs, what do you think, what do you feel when you see these thousands and thousands of migrants, men, women and children -- >> yeah. >> -- caught between two worlds, unable to get to germany and austria with open arms willing to receive them? >> right. >> should the united states raise the quotas and permit more people from syria to come in? >> the pictures, well, the stories we have been watching this terrible assault on the syrian people now for years are just heartbreaking. and i think the entire world has to come together. it should not be just one or two

countries or not just europe and the united states. beshd we should do our part as should the europeans but this is a broader, global crisis. we now have more refugees than we have had in many years i think since the second world and people are tragically dying to escape the conflict in syria. i think that the larger middle east, i think asia, i think everybody should step up and say, we have to help these people and i would hope that under the egis of the united nations led by the security council and certainly by the united states, a generous nation in the past, we would begin to try to find ways to help people get to safety in other lands. however, that does not solve the problem. and the problem is one that the entire world now sees doesn't just affect the syrian people. it affects all of us.

that's what i've been saying for years. that's why i advocated for a more robust response when assad began the onslaught on the syrian people and i think we have got to come to grips with the fact this is not going away and the millions of people fleeing need safe places to be but the conflict needs to be brought under control. >> was that a failure of the president's policy? >> well, it's the world's policies. i mean, it is not only the united states. i advocated for as i say a more robust policy but sitting here i can't say that that would have on its own make a difference because this had to be an international effort and the russians were standing in the way and i negotiated the agreement in june of 2012 in geneva which the russians signed off on and then began immediately to renege. this is not a problem the united states can solve.

we have to do what i did with the ukrainian sanctions. it was not easy but that's the kind of intensive diplomacy that's going to be required in order to stop the flow of refugees and to try to bring some peace and security back to the region. >> we have the president of china coming later this month. only a few weeks. for a state visit. and 20 years ago, 20 years ago tomorrow -- >> right. >> you were leading the delegation and gave a speech that accused china of human rights abuses, implicitly. you said that women's rights are human rights and human rights are women's rights. i'm wondering whether you feel 20 years later that women have anymore rights, have made progress in china and indeed around the world. >> an gree yeah, it feels like it was yesterday. you were there. you were there in beijing. >> we were just kids. >> i was very, very humbled and proud at the same time to

represent the united states and make that speech and to set forth a platform for action. 20 years later, i would say this. women and girls have made progress in health and in education, in health we have done a lot to improve women's health, particularly lower maternal mortality. in education, we have closed the gap in primary education so that girls are attending at about the same rate of boys. but the gap then comes back in secondary education and we have work to do. but if you look at economic rights and participation, political rights and participation. security and conflict, we have a lot to do. so, it's a glass half filled kind of scenario and as a snar senator, as secretary of state, i argued strongly for women's rights at the center of foreign policy because when women have

rights, you are more likely to have a middle class, more likely to have more stable families, we are more likely to have the opportunity for democracy to take hold and grow. so this for me was not only a moral issue, a humanitarian issue, a rights and equality issue, it was a security and strategic issue and i'm going to continue to make that case. there has been progress in china. they have a long way to go as so many other countries do but even in advanced economies like our own, we don't have equal pay for equal work. the minimum wage is two thirds of the people on minimum wage is women. that's not a way to get yourself out of poverty. we have our own challenges and clearly my running for president is a way of sending a message that we have unfin initialled business in america and we have an opportunity to lift up everyone, women, men, girls and boys. at the same time.

>> and i didn't know this at the time, but you kept that speech very secret. >> yes. >> because you know that the state department and the white house national security advisers did not want you to deliver that strong a message. never before had a first lady taken the world stage and shaken things up. did you get a lot of blowback, your husband or others? >> no. >> respond. >> before i went, there was a lot of hand wringing and concern. in the congress, as well as in the administration. >> i remember it well. >> but i made it clear that i was going to go. we had an excellent delegation. it was bipartisan in those days. both the democrats and republicans. and madeline albright, then our ambassador to the u.n. was the official head of the delegation. i was the honorary chair of it. and i made it clear that this, even though it was 20 years ago, it was a critical issue about

america's values and our interests and our future security. i made the case and i went and i was very pleased after the speech some of the naysayers contacted me and thanked me for doing it. >> i think back to 2008 you were in the coffee shop in new hampshire and people really saw a different side of you. perhaps you felt that it might be slipping away after what happened in iowa. do you think back about that and do you worry that this could be happening again, that what happened with your e-mail is created so much controversy that you could be losing this opportunity a second time? >> well, i don't feel that. i feel that i have questions to answer which i intend to do at every turn with you and others about the whole e-mail issue and to keep saying the same thing. and then, also, to keep making the case that i'm making for the

presidency, what i stand for, what i've always stood for, what i will fight for and how hard i will work to make sure not just my granddaughter but every child, every grandchild in america has the same chance to live up to her or his god-given potential. there's cynicism. people are, you know, angry, they're frustrated. they feel somehow that their lives are slipping away. you know? and they want some answers, sometimes those answers are, you know, bombastic and very ideological. but i can understand why people are looking for some way out of what they view as their own problems, particularly their economic problems. i mean, we are beginning the see the fruits of the recovery but paychecks aren't growing. people are not feeling that they are rising with rising corporate

pay and rising corporate profits. that's just wrong. and i have said that for many years. and even in my campaign, last time, i was very clear against some of the worst abuses that i thought were, unfortunately, bad for our economy and not fair to the american people. i'm talking about the same things. i'll continue to talk about the same things. and i really trust the american people. i trust them to assess who will really get up and fight for them? not just give a speech for them. not just sort of appeal to their emotions but will work to put a coalition together, whether it was on iran or whether it was in the congress, when i served in the senate and worked across the aisle. who will work every single day to make their lives better? and i think when they look at all the candidates they will believe that's what i will do. that's my commitment. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> all right.

that was a great interview, an gr dree yeah mitchell conducted with hillary clinton. a lot of obviously controversy, all of the topics circulating, covered by andrea with hillary clinton and joining us now is mark murray, nbc news senior political editor. take a closer look at what we just heard that. i'm curious listening to the interview there, a lot at the beginning of the e-mail controversy, andrea kofed a lot of ground there and joe biden, the prospective candidacy. when's the headline to you coming out of the interview? >> steve, you hit the big headlines but to me the last exchange is fascinating and i think that what hillary clinton is trying to do with this e-mail, others, ramping up the political activity in september, is really trying to move beyond this e-mail story and on the defensive, that every headline is in a very tough one and she is more contrite. she says, look, i take

responsibility and where i want the message is to fight for americans. it is true that she's always been better as a political fighter than a front-runner, as nbc/"wall street journal" co-pollster put it, running against yourself or running against the news media is an unenviable place to be. and then to be able to move the conversation to the issue terrain and what she wants to be able to talk about. >> is that, possible, i wonder? we have a fbi investigation that's ongoing right now. we don't know how long that takes and exactly what that's going to lead to. the answers today, it still comes back, essentially, to that idea of trust me. we didn't break any laws here. we didn't do anything knowingly wrong and you have a fbi investigation active, is it possible to put this to rest? >> you know, and so much is out of her control, steve. i mean, you mentioned the fbi investigation.

there was one of heri.t. aides this week invoking the fifth amendment. and all of this suggests that we have to wait and see. it could be next week the federal bureau of investigations says, nothing was done or taking a whole year. you don't know. so much out of their control. what i think that hillary clinton's trying to do with the e-mails is to essentially let her supporters know that she's trying to answer this to the best of her ability so then they're equipped to defend her a. complaint of democratic allies, even supporters is i have nothing to be able to say back because the campaign itself doesn't have good explanations and it is worth noting how much on the line is going to be on the august 22nd benghazi testimony of hillary clinton having. this is almost a make or break moment for her if she ends up giving good answers, plausible, the democrats i think you would see would accept this and moving

on. of course, it is worth noting republicans aren't going to be satisfied at all and winning independents is something in a general election getting that stage would be something she would have to focus on and work hard at. >> andrea, a thing that struck me is put that recent poll to hillary clinton and people asked when's the first word hearing the name hillary clinton? liar and untrustworthy at the top of the list. hillary basically said, look, i'm not happy about it. but that's what campaigns are for. i change the perceptions. this is something, a long-term question with the clintons dating back to 1990s. bill and hillary clinton, never really polled that well with questions of honesty and i wonder if after 20, 25 years, can she in 12 months turn the numbers around? >> you can. steve, as you were mentioning in 1996 exit polls, bill clinton won re-election pretty decisively, a majority of american voters found him

untrustworthy. you can win but she needs to start doing and probably getting out of this negative feedback loop and what we have seen over a past month with stories about hillary clinton is there are either stories about the e-mails or her declining poll numbers or this or that. all of them have usually been negative headlines. nothing positive to be able to have and at this stage in the invisible primary, on the democratic or republican side, news coverage does matter and influence polls. >> all right. mark murray, thank you for joining us from washington. we have full coverage of the news making interview with hillary clinton tonight on "nbc nightly news" with lester holt and there's a special lightning round of questions only on msnbc.com. for all the other political headlines, we are following today, let's bring in david druker, senior correspondent correspondent and my old

colleague from "roll call." >> good to see you, steve. >> something else that hillary clinton was asked about joe biden, he is dangling the prospect of a late entry in the presidential race and joe biden made the first public comments about that possibility of what it would take at the point where he could get into the race. let's play the clip from last night. >> but i have to be honest with you. and everyone who's come to me. i can't look you straight in the eye an say now i know i can do that. this is as honest as i can be. >> as joe biden in florida last night. what do you make of the possibility of biden getting into the race? it would be a very big uphill fight for him. he is not beating bernie sanders when they poll him and h humiliation risk to enter that race. >> very good points. i thought he won't get in unless it looks like hillary is pushed out. he is a loyal foot soldier,

always good for the democratic party, cares about the liberal movement. i don't think he wants to start a war. but i think he's let it be known and what he is willing to do is if hillary clinton is really in deep, deep trouble he's saying i'm the lifeline and i'm willing to go there for you. but i think that's what all of this consideration is about and with this indecisive language is about. >> donald trump's name in the hillary interview, as well. >> shocking. >> little bit of -- yeah. every political news story here. here's the latest controversy and the appearance yesterday on hugh hewitt and trump seemed to be confused. this is a clip of that, trump responding to that on "morning joe" this morning. >> when you say koods versus kurds, i thought he did -- gotcah.

every question is do i know this one and that one. he worked hard on that. but i thought he said kurds. i do new the kurds, while we're on it, i think the kurds are not being utilized properly and not treated properly by us. >> i could ask you about whether that -- if that exchange will hurt him. hugh hewitt is a moderator at the next cnn debate and trmp is insulting moderator. is this setting the stage for a confrontation of the two of them? >> possibly. this is par for the course for the donald. if he doesn't like the way he is treated in the press, he bow beats the press and worked for him so far. you can't blame him. i listened to that exchange last night. i was on with hugh after that exchange and for any other republican kand date, this would dog them for weeks and be a huge problem. not because they didn't necessarily know kuds versus kurds but the way they reabouted

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client has no remorse and is prepared for the consequences. >> she has no intention to resign. she will continue to serve the people of rowan conty as she has done. she will never violate her conscious and betray her god. she is prepared. it is our position and the position of the clerk of rowan conty kim davis gnat licenses are void and they're not worth the paper that they're written on. >> nbc's gape gutierrez is outside the detention center in grayson, kentucky. kim davis' husband said she doesn't plan to resign or back down. what is next for her? >> reporter: hi there, steve. good afternoon. her lawyers reiterated that just a few moments ago. they say that they plan to appeal the judge's order holding her in contempt. they republican the appeal that by the end of the day. aalso said they expect kim davis to be in the decent center for at least tuesday and they also said that they're calling on the governor to act and by that they

mean they want the governor to change the form of the marriage licenses to remove kim davis' name from those forms. the govern nor's office has said that they do not plan to do that. they don't have the authority to do that. that that would need to be done by the legislature and the legislature doesn't meet until january. lawyers for kim davis said they spoke with her earlier this afternoon. her words to them were all is well. and she's being held in isolation. in this jail. again, kim davis is standing firm. behind her beliefs a and she is not backing down and the lawyers say she considers all the marriage licenses issued today by her deputy clerks to be invalid. steve? >> gabe gutierrez, thank you for that report. labor day getaway under way and good news for drivers. the average price for a gallon of gas at the lowest for the holiday weekend since back in 2004 but with an estimated 35

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a little bit. make sure you swim parallel along the coast. another thing to keep in mind, make sure that you swim near a lifeguard station. >> all right. watch out for that rip current. on the jersey shore, thank you for that. straight ahead, heading into the labor day weekend, the must see movies for the fall. including "star wars: the force awakens." our friends at the "today" show are maybe a bit too excited. >> there it is. >> lipstick kiss. >> there you go. >> there it is. sorry, r-2. can't even fight back. >> obi w a n, you're the only hope. >> brad paisley going to be live. >> excited. >> oh no! ♪

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there was a great disturbance in the force last night. thousands of star wars fans lined up for hours to get their hands on merchandise released at midnight ahead of the upcoming star wars: the force awakens, which comes out in december. light saber battles broke out in parking lots and the shelves stripped clean. all part of the marketing bush called "force friday." star wars isn't the only big movie hitting theaters. what else can you check out? join me for a labor day preview. eric davis joins me. welcome. fun for movies. getting past labor day and into

fall and we get into contenders for the big awards handed out. take us through a fou of these but i want to play a clip from the movie i'm most excited about and might have award buzz from it. set in massachusetts, why from. the story of whitey bulger. check it out. >> how come known has nailed whitey bulger. >> he seems to be involved in every crime in the city and yet the bureau keeps saying he's clean. >> what's bulger done? >> what's he done? everything. [ laughter ] >> i got to see -- i know the whitey bulger store r story pretty well and watching johnny depp assume this character i'm kind of believing it. >> jack nicholson in that movie was inspired by whitey bulger. this one is an icy sort of

ruthless version. >> it is real whitey bulger. -- >> this is the real deal and the fourth time depp has played a mobster in a movie and i think this is going to be the most dangerous and violent. and expect to see. this is basically bulgers years in boston. they stopped when he went on the run. and they duty girlfriend out just to focus on his time in boston. he's in boston. there are accent, dark -- and he could. >> i think it might be a really good movie. let's move to the idea of just block busters. the ones bringing in all the money. obviously would be a huge upset if star wars is not the biggest. >> it could be the biggest movie ever is what the title is today. it is going to be really big. it is going to make over a billion dollars. it is probably going to be in the top three all-time grosses

because it is just awesome and looks great and it is a seek well to return of the jedi. luke sky walker, hans solsolo, chewbac chewbacca. and you can invest in the characters months before you have seen the movie. when you see the movie you feel like you have lived with them. and hunger games. >> which one? >> this is the last one. fourth one in mocking jay part two and this is the finale for the franchise. a lot of people are -- >> hunger games the most anticipated. >> the most anticipated fall movie, not including december. and yeah i think because it is the final one. and this is a really good franchise. i credit jennifer lawrence with a lot of it. and yeah it's just been a really good one. probably one of the best young

adult adaptation franchises. >> it is one of those i stayed away from and then i was really bored one day and ie watched the first unand i was hooked. and i've seen all three. i'm looking forward to this one too. thrillers. reality based thrillers. everest, tell us. >> this is a good i max move. and also the walk. everest, jake gyllenhaal, josh --. keeria knightley. parts of this were shot at mount everest. they could only go up 16,000 feet for insurance reasons. but that is going to lend authenticity to it. you are going to feel like you are on the mountain with those guys. one caveat, if you are afraid of height maybe not the best way to spend your afternoon or take someone you can physically grab on to. >> remember "cliff hanger"? scared me as the kid.

i don't know if i'll do well with everest. and with switch to the family films. here is with unthat excites me. the peanuts movie. >> yeah. this is the first theatrical peanuts movie in 35 years. it looks a little different because it is computer generated. >> not what i remember. >> they have never done this before. but charles m. schultz's son and grandson wrote the script. it is going feel like classic peanuts. it is going to have great themes of pick yourself up even when life knocks you down. no matter how much bad luck charlie brown has he get understand and dust s himself of and that is a great message. >> the -- is it going to have that kind of music to it. >> it is definitely -- yeah it is going to have some of the music in it. they really went back to those old cartoons. because they want it to look and feel like that even though it does look a little bit different. they want to it feel like the

ridging. >> excellent. this will be the next kids movie i sneak into it. eric davis. thank you for joining us. and that is it for us at 3:00 today. i'm steve kornacki, stay tuned for more with luke russert right after this. ♪ mother nature can turn in an instant;

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one on one with hillary clinton. our own andrea mitchell sits for a wide ranging interview with the democratic front runner, including her own trust issues with voters. >> the first words that came to mind when asked about you were

liar, untrustworthy, crooked. how does that make you feel. >> well it certainly doesn't make me feel good. >> plus donald trump gets tripped up on foreign policy. and well he blames it on a gotcha question. >> the -- >> gotcha question you know when you are asking me about who's running in this this. that is not -- i will be so good at the military your head will spin. >> and love wins again. same-sex couples begin receiving marriage licenses in rowan county kentucky after the county clerk was jailed for refusing to issue the licenses. but first today, hillary clinton sat down for a wide ranging interview with andrea mitchell to which she responded to questions about private e-mail on her own server, a decision that's managed