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bush any chance he could get. but today it was like he couldn't even be bothered. >> why are you saddened for the plight of jeb bush? >> well, you never know what's going to happen. look, he's out there. he's a professional. he's out there pitching hard. you never know what's going to happen with elections and politics. and you and i and everybody around your table, we've seen things change very quickly both good and bad. so i'm not taking it for granted. and i understand it's a long -- you know, as you would say, it's a marathon, and it is a marathon, although there's a lot of indication of what's happening. i think polls are very indicative maybe of what's happening. >> the numbers tell a very clear story. donald trump's attacks on bush have worked. a new gallup poll shows trump with a net favorable rating of 32% among republicans while jeb bush is at 19. and check this out.

trump's favorables are up 16 points since the beginning of the month. jeb bush is down 6 points. maybe trump has gotten bored with jeb bush, but the one candidate who might be making trump sweat, ben carson. he's got a 51% net approval rating among republicans. highest of all the candidates. and it sounds like trump's waiting to pounce. >> what do you want republican voters to know about ben carson and why you would be a better president than he? >> well, i'm much better as a counterpunching, so i'd rather have -- and i'm hoping for ben to really hit me at some point because i love to counterpunch. he's been very nice to me. he's actually a really nice guy. i like him. we get along very well, as i do with most of the other people up on stage. and it's interesting, but i think i'm probably going to wait. i do have certain things to say, but i'm not going to be saying

them for a little while. let's see what happens. >> he's got certain things to say? ben carson better get ready. looks like the attacks are coming, and the democratic front-runner said, that's exactly what's wrong with our politics. >> he's attacked so many people including my close aide and myself and many other people. you know, i can take that. i mean, that's just par for the course. i do regret that he is going after so many people, many of them by name. i think it's an unfortunate development in american politics that his campaign is all about who he's against, whether it's immigrants or women broadcasters or aides of other candidates. he is the candidate of, you know, being against. the vision that i have for america is how we come together.

>> trump is the candidate of being against. and the next person he may be against is ben carson. joining me now are e.j. dionne and shira center. thank you both for being here. >> good to be here, reverend. >> e.j., what do you make of trump seemingly toning down on jeb bush and hinting at future attacks on ben carson? >> i've got certain things to say, reverend, but i don't think i'm going to say them. that's just a remarkable thing he said. i think that he is really like one of those television series where they're trying to keep you off balance. he's trying to keep people off balance and tuning in for the next show. but i do think when you look at the numbers particularly in iowa, ben carson is actually, at least at this moment, a threat to donald trump. because he is as much of an outsider as trump is. he has a much quieter demeanor.

he has -- appears to have a much greater appeal to evangelical voters who matter a lot out in iowa, so i suppose at some point trump is going to have to take ben carson on. but as those numbers showed, his favorability is so high, ben carson's is, that trump might pay a higher price going after ben carson than he ever paid for going after john mccain or jeb bush. >> shira, what do you think an attack back and fauorward ben carson, is that biting off more than he can chew, as my mom used to say? may that start to backfire because ben carson's persona and image is a little different than the rest he's gone after? >> yeah, it could backfire in a lot of ways. there's no doubt that ben carson is a threat to donald trump's candidacy. and that's because they are in some ways -- they might not agree on this, but they are in some ways a very similar type of

candidate. they come from outside the system as compared to the bajillion other people running in the republican primary. voters like that about both of them. if you ask hem in polls what they like about them, it's that they come from outside the system. it's not surprising that if donald trump seeing ben carson as a threat, that he'll attack ben carson. that said, ben carson is a unique figure in the republican party because he's so well liked universally. ask voters about their top three or four choices for president, ben carson is almost universally on that list. it's a bit of a risk for him to go after. at certain point if two candidates are going after each other, it creates an opportunity for another candidate to go down the middle and perhaps win the primary. >> e.j. hillary clinton says trump's rise is unfortunate, but is it really all that bad for democrats watching from the sidelines here? >> i think she is trying to say that it's unfortunate for the country and quietly is probably

very happy that donald trump essentially took over the republican party this summer. first, he got a lot of publicity at a moment when the press seemed most inclined to talk about hillary clinton's e-mail server. and jeb bush is an exception, although even he got in trouble on the immigration issue, but a lot of republicans are following trump down this road which is really dangerous to them as a party that did so badly among latino voters and also asian american voters in the last election. so i think she means what she says when she talks about his effect on the country, but i think this has been good for democrats and in that sense good for her. >> you know, shira, trump got into another scuffle yesterday with a conservative radio show host who questioned him on policy. i'm going to play part of it. >> sure. >> on the front of islamic terrorism i'm looking for the

next commander in chief to know who hassan nasrallah is and zawahiri and al julani and al baghdadi. do you know the players without a scorecard yet, donald trump? >> no, i tell you honestly by the time we get to office, they'll all be changed. they'll all be gone. >> i don't believe in gotcha questions. >> that is a gotcha question. i mean when you ask me about who is running this, this, this, i'll be so good at the military your head will spin. >> i mean, when you look at his base, shira, does it really hurt him if he doesn't know the names that are players on the world scene even many of who are a threat to us? doesn't it hurt him when he just says i'll be great and you're trying to play gotcha. does it hurt him in his base? >> what is so fascinating about this, isn't this part of what tanked herman cain's candidacy a

few years ago? he didn't know the details of foreign policy. this is a weakness. this is an election that will focus, especially in the republican primary, on foreign policy and fighting extremists abroad. while it might not hurt him in a huge way today, i think over the course of a long term, you can snip, snip, snip at that and make it look like he doesn't know anything about foreign policy. >> on the other side of this, i want to play a little more of what hillary clinton said because this goes into what we were just discussing with shira. listen to this. >> he's great at innuendo and conspiracy theories and really defaming people. that's not what i want to do in my campaign, and that's not how i'm going to conduct myself. and i also believe the president of the united states does have to be careful about what he or she says. loose talk, threats, insults,

they have consequences. so i'm going to conduct myself as i believe is appropriate for someone seeking the highest office in our country. >> now, the question, e.j., as you listen to her say that, is donald trump accidentally helping hillary clinton by having her appear even more presidential in contrast to what he's done? >> yeah, i think that's right. i think you could hear there the thought balloon on hillary clinton is, boy, would i love to run against this guy. she could run that 3:00 in the morning phone ad all over again, and it would be more effective than it was against barack obama in 2008. and here's where i think it hurts trump. it doesn't hurt him in his base that he couldn't answer the questions or call them gotcha questions, but it will put a lid on his ability to expand in the republican party as this thing goes forward. republicans care a lot about

foreign policy. the polls show they care more about foreign policy than democrats do. and so a lot of republicans are going to say, well, i may like some of this or that that trump says. i like his sort of outspokenness, but he's not ready for this. so i think that is a real problem for him in the long run. >> so if the problems may be that it may not hurt his base but it limits him going way beyond his base, which he will have to do to win a nomination and clearly if he was the nominee to be competitive in a general election. >> yes, in the general election, but in the nominee, he's still kind of ahead of the polls in most of the early states. so in a way he is kind of -- as much as it's odd to say it, he is kind of winning right now in a lot of these polls. the iowa poll with ben carson is an exception there. in a way -- remember, in this republican primary, there's so many candidates, the winner of the iowa caucus, the winner of

the new hampshire primary, the winner of the south carolina primary may as well win that with something like 18 or 15% of the votes. so it could very well happen that he can say things like that. a lot of candidates can say things like that and they can slide right in with a small sliver of the electorate. >> thank you both for your time tonight. have a great labor day weekend. >> you too, reverend. >> you too. >> thanks. coming up, how gop presidential candidates are racing to stand by that clerk in jail for refusing to obey the law. plus hillary clinton talks about potentially running against vice president joe biden. >> if he gets into this race, there will be plenty of time to get into the debate and the back and forth. >> also, the shoutouts for beyonce's birthday are coming from all over, including the white house. big show ahead. stay with us. during a town hall in miami this week, jeb bush attacked donald trump in both english and

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still ahead, it's the new rallying cry for ted cruz and other 2016 republicans. their vowing to stand by that kentucky county clerk jailed for breaking the law on gay marriage.

we waited for this and we were elated. this is our sixth time and we were successful. so yea. we're just happy to finally get married. for the first time today gay couples in one kentucky county got married. kim davis, the clerk who refuses to marry them is in jail right now. to get out all she has to do is issue those licenses. but her husband says it's not going to happen. >> how long is your wife prepared to stay in jail? >> as long as it takes. i talked to her last night. she called me on the phone and she said she's doing well. she authorized it, she agrees and approves on this. and we don't agree and we don't approve. >> now some republican presidential candidates are rushing to support her cause. >> i would send to the justice department everywhere religious

liberty is being trampled. >> i think it's absurd to put someone in jail for exercising their religious liberty. >> for the first time we're seeing a christian woman thrown in jail for standing up for her faith. i'll tell you, i stand with kim davis. >> joining me now is political strategist angela rye. thank you for being here. >> thank you, rev. >> angela, these candidates are embracing a woman who is breaking the law, but is that what gop primary voters want? >> that's exactly what they want. in fact, i was thinking about this on the way to the studio and saying, you know, for primary voters, this is actually also good for democrats. for them to be in a situation where they're pushing forward someone whose views are so polar opposite from what the majority of american people are saying right now, not only about gay marriage but about marriage equality at large, that means they're going to have a more conservative candidate not only on the ballot but running against the democratic nominee

in the fall. >> the most recent gallup poll on gay marriage shows 60% of americans agree it should be legal. 37% disagree. doesn't it hurt the gop's brand to have presidential candidates embracing intolerance on an issue like this, angela? >> 100%, rev. but that's not the only thing hurting gop's brand with voters right now. we also know the top candidate, the one who is now has favorability over 50% has also said some horribly egregious things about latino people in this country. so they've got a lot of work to do when we talk about this again all the time. going back to that autopsy report. they haven't yet gathered their latino built and built that base. they haven't done that with african-americans. they certainly haven't done it with gay folks at this point. and they also haven't done it with millennials. they've got a whole lot of work to do and i think they're running out of time. >> in fairness, though, all of the republican candidates are not rushing to defense kim

davis. >> sure. >> listen to this. >> i hate to see her being put in jail. i understand what they're doing. the decision's been made and that's the law of the land. >> she is sworn to uphold the law. there ought to be a way to figure this out. >> this clerk, i understand her concerns. i believe in traditional marriage. but she's a public official. >> now, how will gop primary voters in iowa and south carolina react to statements like those. >> i think they will be split, rev. what we're seeing in this primary is that there is no real clear lines on the republican basep about i think you have evangelicals. folks who are traditionally conservative when it comes to fiscal policy. then it may make the gop primaries in all of the states you mentioned, the early states more contentious. >> i think -- and we talked about it on my radio show today. i think that it is right for

somebody to stand up for what they believe, but then you should quit your job if you feel that your job requires you to do something against your conscience. you can't have it both ways. so if i want to stay in my job, i want to get paid, but i'm going to decide what i'm going to do and enforce. angela rye, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, rev. ahead an msnbc exclusive interview with hillary clinton speaking out about joe biden and the e-mail controversy. president obama has an answer to john boehner's favorite question, where are the jobs. but first, a viral sensation. an 86-year-old grandmother showing off her moves and lifting everyone's spirits. ♪ ♪ when cigarette cravings hit,

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hillary clinton is trying to clear the air over the e-mail controversy that's hurting her

campaign. she spoke exclusively to msnbc's andrea mitchell in just her third national tv interview since launching her campaign. talking about why she used the personal e-mail address for work. >> are you sorry? do you want to apologize to the american people for the choice you made? >> well, it wasn't the best choice. i certainly have said that. i will continue to say that as i've also said many times. it was allowed and it was fully above board. the people in the government knew that i was using a personal account, but it would have been better if i had two separate accounts to begin with. at the end of the day, i am sorry that this has been confusing to people and has raised a lot of questions. >> it has raised a lot of questions and a recent survey of voters show that it affected how people see her. >> the first words that came to mind when asked about you were

"liar," "untrustworthy," "crooked." how does that make you feel? >> well, it certainly doesn't make me feel good, but i am confident by the time this campaign has run its course people will know that what i've been saying is accurate. the american people will know that they can trust me when it comes to standing up for them and fighting for them. and you know, being their advocate and their champion. and i think that's what this election, when it's all said and done, has to be about. >> the polls show the damage done by the e-mail controversy, with a favorability rating dropping over the last few months. joining me now is the former communications director for the dnc and executive director of georgetown's institute of politics and public service and the national journal's michelle callow. thank you both for being here. >> thanks, rev.

>> thank you, reverend. >> mo, let me start with you. do you think this interview helped her on the e-mail controversy? >> look, yeah, i think so. i think my biggest criticism -- and in full disclosure i worked fr her on her last campaign. i think this would have been sooner. i think there are those who would like to see a more aggressive explanation pushback media presence on this. because this story just took on a life of its own and spun out of control. she's been unable to really break through nationally with her main message because this is all anyone's talking about. so i think it's good for her and i think what people are waiting for or have been waiting for is for her to personally directly address the issue and try to put it to bed so that she can get out there and talk about what she wants to talk about. this isn't what she wants to talk about, clearly.

>> michelle, help her or hurt her? >> oh, it definitely helps her. it is not a question of exactly what she says or exactly how she fields a particular question. mo's absolutely on point. he's being gentle here. it's making democrats crazy that they let this get to this point and they didn't come out and address this more. and so what she really needs to do is every opportunity she needs to get people bored of hearing her talk about this. the rap against her is that she's too secretive, she's doesn't like to talk about things that are uncomfortable. she works against that narrative regardless of what particular questions get asked. >> mo, you said you worked with her on the last campaign. andrea mitchell, she asked ms. clinton about how she felt toward the end of her campaign in 2008 compared to how she feels today. listen to this exchange.

>> do you worry that this could be happening again, that what happened with your e-mail has created so much controversy that you could be losing this opportunity a second time? >> well, i don't feel that. i feel that i have questions to answer, which i intend to do at every turn with you and others about the whole e-mail issue and to keep saying the same thing. and then also to keep making the case that i'm making for the presidency, what i stand for, what i've always stood for, what i will fight for. >> mo, is the clinton campaign people confident that this e-mail controversy will just fade away? >> no, well, look, by all appearances, i think it doesn't seem like it today. the fact that she is out there today and you're hearing from the clinton campaign that they're going to have her out there more aggressively in the coming weeks and doing more

interviews. and it seems to me like the clinton campaign knows that this has been a challenge for them and that they've got to turn the corner and, as michelle said, there are a lot of democrats out there saying that to them. so it looks like this is now the beginning of a serious offensive to kind of push back on this and get the campaign talking about what it would rather be talking about. eight years ago, she had her back up against the wall and she came out and aggressively was out there and talking to people and was connecting with people and got a little looser and a lot nimbler. you know what, when she did that, she started to win, she started to win states, she started to win delegates and win more votes and she beat barack obama in most of the late primaries. it was too late in the game. but you saw a more hungry hillary clinton out there. and that played well. i think you're seeing them start to do that a little bit earlier in this cycle than they did last. >> michelle, there's been a lot of speculation about vice

president biden and whether or not he will run. he addressed the rumor head-on at a speech at atlanta's synagogue yesterday. watch this. >> i will be straightforward with you, the most relevant factor in my decision is whether any family and i have the emotional energy to run. the factor is, can i do it? can my family undertake what is an arduous commitment that would be proud to under take under ordinary circumstances, but the honest to god answer is i just don't know. >> what do you think, michelle? is he likely to make this run? >> you know, i've learned never to actually try and predict what biden's going to do. but we're talking about a guy who has obviously had presidential dreams not that long ago. but he's been through an awful

lot. it's hard for him at this point because so many democrats are coming to him and they're nervous about the trouble that hillary clinton has had, and for him to sit back and watch this and think that this is his last shot at doing this, and does he really want to close the door and not go for it, that has to be pushing him forward on some level. but when push comes to shove, it's just like a complete commitment, as he points out, and i don't think it's a great time for him to be doing this, but you never know. >> what do you think, mo, does he run? >> i don't know. and anyone that tries to answer that question doesn't know what they're talking about. i love joe biden. i absolutely love joe biden. and that answer may be one of the most heartfelt, honest answers i've ever heard anyone publicly give about their personal decision-making process. this is a very big decision under normal circumstances, and he's making this decision under very abnormal and sad circumstances for him.

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it's donald trump's new buzzword on immigration, "assimilate" and today he didn't back down. >> you have many people in this country that feel this is a country where it's english, you have to speak english, and in terms of assimilation, in terms of getting everyone together, this is a country and we're based on english. and if you want people to assimilate and go on to great heights, which everybody wants, we have to learn english. >> we're hearing tough language from trump on immigration, and we're seeing tough tactics from trump and his staff. just yesterday a trump security guard took a protester's sign,

then hit him in the face after the protester leapt on his back. and trump has repeatedly sparred with high-profile latino journalists. >> you're with telemundo, and telemundo show be ashamed. >> i have the right to ask a question. >> go back to univision. sit down, please. you weren't called. >> i'm a reporter and i have -- >> go. >> i have the right to ask a question. >> donald trump, donald trump, donald trump. he's clearly tapped into something on the right, and now jeb bush, who trump criticized for speaking spanish, has a label for it. >> perhaps even more offensive was the notion that some how i went down to the border and i spoke mexican. those are dog whisperer terms. he knows what he's doing. >> is donald trump playing dog whistle politics on immigration or how will that hurt the chances for republicans in 2016?

joining me now, bill press and joe madison. thank you both for being here. >> reverend al. >> thank you, reverend. >> joe, is jeb bush right? is donald trump playing dog whistle politics on immigration? >> he's absolutely wrong. this is a full-blown siren. this is -- i can hear it. you can hear it. his base can hear it. this thing of about assimilation, you know, on my radio show, i always ask the question, what do you call somebody who speaks three languages? trilingual. what do you call somebody who speaks two languages? bilingual. what do you call somebody who speaks one language? american. the reality is that there's a reason we teach foreign language in high schools and colleges is because do we not have a global economy? do we not have to do business with people? and doesn't the president of the

united states have to understand the culture of the world and the global economy? and i'll just simply put it this way, john kennedy, i can still hear that german phrase and the german people went wild. i can still hear jacqueline kennedy speaking at the orange bowl, an entire speech after the bay of pigs fiasco, she gave an entire speech in spanish to american citizens, and they loved her for it. >> but you're talking history. bill, 2016, will this work in the primaries? >> it may work in the primary. i would hope that enough republicans with any sense would realize what's going on here. reverend al, let's talk a little recent history. 2004 george bush got 40% of the latino vote. >> that's correct. >> in 2008 john mccain got 31%. mitt romney got 27 in 2012 and

at that time lindsey graham, another candidate for president, let's not forget, said that the republican party is in a death spiral unless it reaches out and leads the way on comprehensive immigration reform, and they're letting donald trump lead the way. i think it works against them both in the primary and there's no way, no way they can win the white house with trump out there or the others are just as bad as he is. >> i'm getting ready to say that because, joe, rand paul, is also hopping on board with this, quote, assimilation language. he's talking about native americans, though. listen to this. >> i think assimilation is an amazing thing. a good example of how, even in our country, a assimilation didn't happen, and it's been a disaster for the people, has been the native american population on the reservations. if they were assimilated within a decade they'd probably be doing as well as the rest of us. >> i mean, how did the word "assimilation" become such a

buzzword for the far right? >> you know, because it's always been that way. you know, i'm sorry to keep bringing up history, but has rand paul forgotten how many treaties were broken? did he forget about supreme court decisions that were simply ignored by presidents of the united states? are you -- you know, it's absolutely amazing. we used to celebrate diversity in this country. i can go to chinatown, i can go to little italy. you know, i guarantee you he will not go into south philadelphia and tell italians that they need to give up their italian culture. and i can guarantee you he won't go into boston and tell irish people we ought not celebrate st. patrick's day. this is absolutely absurd. and they've always done it. >> but you know, bill, this week rush limbaugh expressed his shock that it was a controversial thing to demand

people speak english. here's what he said. >> it became a controversy that trump said jeb should lead and speak english. trump or anybody suggesting that the presidential candidates ought to speak english, that's a controversy? >> now, bill, we all know that rush is really the head of the gop. is this where the gop party is on this issue? >> i think they are. again, ignoring the advice of some people. remember, the republican party itself did their so-called autopsy report on 2012. i love the fact that they called it that, because we only do autopsies on people who are dead. but in their own report looking at their own party, reverend al, they said that this is their number one problem and their number one goal has to be to reach out. again now they're following the lead of a guy who is going in just the opposite direction. i wouldn't call it a dog whistle. i think it's an outright racist campaign saying you're speaking

mexican or calling them rapists, wanting to do away with birth right citizenship and the others are following his lead. jeb bush may a little bit disagree. but the others right on. reince priebus wants trump's endorsement over this pledge. what does he do? he comes to new york to the goaden throne and kisses donald trump's ring. >> i think these are the things that will hurt in the ultimate general election, joe. and the democrats should just give him room. a wise old preacher told me once if you see a man on the edge of the cliff, don't get close. you'll turn a suicide into what will look like a homicide. let him go over by himself. bill press and joe madison, thank you for your time, both of you tonight. have a great weekend. >> thanks, reverend al. the first lady paying tribute to a queen. how michelle obama's celebrating beyonce's birthday next. and a special look back at four

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moving to sunday mornings at 8:00 a.m. we're going to make some news, make some waves and hopefully do some good. we're also going to have some fun. we've certainly had our fair share over the past four years. take a look. so i'd like to welcome a very special guest to "politics nation." welcome, rev. hello, al. thanks for having me on my show. glad i could join me. welcome ba to the "politics nation" science lab. folks, do not adjust your television set. we've taken a trip back in time. happy darwin day. dearly beloved, we're gathered here today to mourn a sad loss. the loss of another bogus gop talking point. >> i'm al sharpton. let's talk about it on "politics nation." >> reverend al, you take us

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>> great to be back here at the apollo tonight. i'm coming to you live from the festival in downtown atlanta, georgia. live from the great city of new orleans for the 19th annual essence festival. we're live tonight from democracy plaza in new york's rockefeller center. it's one day until millions stream to the polls. obamacare is here to stay. please help me welcome the queen of soul, miss aretha franklin. rosie perez. george clinton. ms. hillary clinton. how are you doing, secretary clinton? >> i'm doing great. how are you doing? >> it is my honor now to bring the president of the united states, the leader of the free world, president barack obama. good afternoon, mr. president. >> great to talk to you, reverend. >> joining me now is eye dris alba. the one, the only smokey

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great four years as we move to sunday mornings, october 4th. many said when we started that that can't last four weeks. how is sharpton, an activist, going to also do tv? well, we did. many will say whatever they're going to say now. underestimating people only matters if you listen. in fact, you should always use people underestimating you to motivate yourself to define yourself and define where you are. we have very serious things to deal with in this country, and we need to deal with it on the big stage. i'm glad that phil griffin and others gave us the ability to express ourselves, and we're going to continue doing that. i thank a beautiful staff that are competent and believing people like matt saul and dan mcdorm ot who stood and make this happen. we're going forward sunday morning 8:00, october 4th

"politics nation with al sharpton." i'm not going anywhere. i just learned how to read the teleprompter. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. have a great weekend. "hardball" starts right now. from the e-mail controversy to joe biden to donald trump, the msnbc exclusive interview with hillary clinton. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm steve kornacki in for chris matthews. let me start tonight with a somewhat rare occurrence. for only the third time since launching her campaign, hillary clinton gave a one on one national television interview today. nbc's andrea mitchell sat down with the democratic front-runner this morning for a discussion that covered her e-mails, donald trump, joe biden and much more. on her use of private e-mails clinton acknowledged it