only you could have got this interview. and you made a ton of news today. thanks. >> thank you. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you next week. "weekends with alex witt" starts now. relief, a break through allows thousands of stranded migrants to leave behind misery for now. the latest in a live report. new hurdles, the current presidential front-runners facing tough questions, will it cost them support? the fight over faith. more protests expected today in kentucky where a clerk still refuses to issue same-sex marriage licenses in her name. cars for a new generation. which is the number one choice of millennials, the answer in big money headlines. good morning. welcome to weekends with alex witt. it's 7:00 here in the east. 4:00 a.m. out west. we have big developments on that

unfolding tragedy in europe at this hour. some relief. thousands of migrants crossing the border from hungary to austria, they were bussed there. major break through, austria along with germany agreed to allow the migrants entry on humanitarian grounds. the migrants mostly from the middle east traveled from turkish refugee camps through greece into hungary and hoping to reach western europe. since january more than 2500 have died trying to reach safety in europe. and kelly is monitoring this situation for us from our london bureau. what broke that deadlock with hungary? >> they were overwhelmed by the numbers is the short answer. the hungarian government was trying to contain all of these refugees within the train station on the train, outside of the main train station, and they simply were unable to do so. the refugees and migrants began

to walk on a main highway between hungary and austria, the main highway to vienna. it became a safety issue. they sent 100 buss to this highway and to other places in budapest to pick ux some of these migrants, they now arrived on the austrian border about 4,000 have crossed into awe stree yaxt austrian police tell us they expect about 10,000 migrants to cross in by the end of the day today. >> it is extraordinary, this crisis here. but overall is there a plan, kelly, on behalf of europe to deal with this? >> well, i think european leaders are still quite destrided on how to deal with it. as a whole. there is talk of a quota system in bringing in refugees to all of the 28 countries in the european union. countries have varying policies

on asylum, varying economies and strength and benefit systems, and this is part of the reason why so many want to go to germ me and also the uk. germany, the chancellor there, has said that all syrian refugees will be welcome in her country. she's not set a quota. she has called on other countries to set some sort of quota and take their fair share. the uk whose leaders have been fairly strict on this over the past several months have now relented a bit and agreed to take in thousands, but no specific numbers. so, everyone has their own policy, nothing is unified at this point. >> all right. i want to let viewers know i thank you that the picture we were showing you to the left that was a live look at the border there between hungary and austria where the migrants are doing their best to findp safety and sanctuary. we're going to have a live report from richard engel. he is at that border.

we'll have a talk with richard later on this hour. over to politics. hillary clinton in new hampshire expected to get an important endorsement from u.s. senator jane shaheen. kicks off a two-week nish biff. her trip comes hours after a report claiming the clintons paid a state department staff tear maintain her personal e-mail server. an official says this is the same safer who told a congressional committee he would plead the fifth instead of testifying. clinton addressed the e-mail controversy in the exclusive interview with andrea mitchell. >> are you sorry? do you want to apologize to the person people for the choice you snad >> well, it wasn't the best choice and i certainly have said that, i will continue to say that as ialso said many times it was allowed and it was fully above board. the people in the government knew i was using a personal

account. it would have been better had i had two separate accountings. >> in a few minutes andrea with the clinton responses. bernie sanders is standing by to fight for the working class. this picture taken by a "washington post" reporter shows sanders joining a picket line. and donald trump isn't backing down after a tense exchange over foreign policy with hugh hewitt. i'm joined by hallie jackson with a good morning to you. how is trump responding to all of this? >> donald trump responding to this like he responded to other controversies. defiantly and dismissively. donald trump, expert in dropping names. >> tom brady is a very good friend of mine. i went to the school of finance. >> kanye west. tripped up by a few and a --

ron's special forces. >> are you familiar with general s smulmani. he runs the qods forces. >> i think horribly mistreated by us. >> not the kurds. the irani forces. >> trump calling the questions got chas. i thought he said kurds, this radio announcy that did the show. like got you. every question was do i know this one and that one. like he worked hard on that. >> it's not the first time trump's response to national security questions has raised eyebrows. >> who do you talk to for military advice? >> i watch the shows. >> this time rivals are seizing the chance to question whether he is ready to be commander in chief. >> you got to have some sense of what's at risk here. >> for teflon don none seems to stick. >> a number of controversial things over the past few months

and his poll numbers are much better among republicans so apparently when he says something that people of the media and other politicians think. controversial, the voters don't mind. >> trump says he'd be tough on some trading partners but open to certain adversaries. >> i think i'd get along well vladamir putin. >> he promises to delegate to experts if elected and get up to speed fast. >> i will be so good at the military your head will spin. >> now, the radio host involved in this has asked similar foreign policy questions of other candidates, alex, and he will come face to fails with donald trump in less than two weeks because hewitt is one of the questioners at the next gop debate. >> that's going to be interesting. thank you for that. for more on this let's bring in bob.

how do you gauge the impact of the exchange on the campaign? is it easy to move past this one as we've seen with the other apparent missteps? >> you know, i think he is teflon don for now. i don't think it affects him because most americans don't know the difference. so overall i think that he's been able to turn it around on the question or turn it around on hugh hewitt. but will it last? if there is a series of these type of interviews and maybe it affects his poll numbers. he is trieding this wave. it doesn't matter whether he says john mccain is a war hero or not. >> two items worth noting from monmouth poll. it shows trump expands hi lead but interestingly in the head-to-head survey, you saw this, ben carson beats trump. that's by almost 20 points. interpret that. >> watch, been carson has been

very steady, his numbers are very good as favorability. carson is a former neurosurgeon. trump went after him recently saying well, doctors don't create jobs. so he's a real threat to donald trump, and trump knows it and remember, the next debate carson is going to be there next to trump so watch that. i think you'll see a difficult ben carson, maybe a little more energy. >> could be but you know, has he maybe benefitted ben carson, by not being as well known to people? >> yes. people want to know about ben carson. when we write about him people read about him. his social numbers are impressive. they want to know who this guy is. his supporters are strojly behind him so. he wasn't taken seriously at the beginning amend now republicans are taking him very seriously.

>> i want to mention carly fiorina. she has seven events over this weekend. it appears they will make the main stage debate. what does this mean for the dynamic on the stage? >> i think it's good for republicans that they are going to have a woman on the main stage. for carlie she is going to have to show she can compete. she did well in the happy hour debate. this is a whole new ball game. i'm interested in the trump fiorina. trump was asked about that and he said complementary things, did not go after her. i think that's a smart move. >> hillary clinton's interview with andrea mitchell, did it help her cause? >> i think it was a very good interview. andrea pressed her on the e-mail. i think it was helpful because she doesn't -- she was more conciliatory on the e-mail. i think it did help. she needs to do more of these

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alex, the heat reprieve. you mentioned the humidity too. take a look. this is saturday over the northeastern quarter of the country. instead of being in the 90s, philadelphia, areas like new york city, upper 80s yesterday. 85 today in d.c., 82 degrees expected in new york city. and for sunday, mid 80s again, wore going to see the temperatures on the rise at least for labor day, maybe a touch of humidity back. but overall we've got real nice weather coming to us in time here for the labor day weekend. areas of the southeast not too bad. this reprieve from a weather front that's come through and the front stalling. so unfortunately for virginia beach, areas of the outer banks down through south carolina, there could be showers and thunderstorms coming through for saturday, for stunned maybe even monday. so that's the touch and go area right now. even florida could see some scattered showers and thunderstorms. take a look at areas around new orleans, on monday the temperatures build back into the

mid 90s. we're not done with the heat for the summer just yet. >> okay, thank you so much. we'll see you later. let's have more politics now. hillary clinton says she is sorry not for using the controversial private e-mail server during her tenure as secretary of state, rather for the confusion it has caused the american public. yesterday clinton sat down with andrea mitchell. >> are you sorry, do you want to apologize to the american people for the choice you made? >> well, it wasn't the best choice and i certainly have said that, i will continue to say that as i've also said many times it was allowed and it was fully above board, the people in the government knew that i was using a personal account. but it would have been better if i had two separate accounts to begin with. >> i was not thinking a lot when i got in. there was so much work to be done. we had so many problems around the world. i didn't really stop and think what kind of e-mail system will

there be. >> dutz it raise judgment questions? >> i don't think so. i think the facts are pretty clear we had a lot of hard work, hard choices to make in those four years and i'm very proud of the work we did. i'm proud of all of the people that i worked with, i think we really served our country well. and now the state department has everything that they could have. so at the end of the day i am sorry that this has been confusing to people and has raised a lot of questions but there are answers to all of these questions. >> joining me now is andrea mitchell. anchor of msnbc's "andrea mitchell reports." good morning to you. excellent interview. i'm sure you heard many times over. you focused a lot on the e-mail. do you feel like she clarified anything and how has her tone on it developed? >> well, her tone was very different. i think you noticed since you follow this also closely, that

she was not defensive, not aggressive, she answered the questions and she was -- she didn't apologize, that's clear but said she was sorry about the choice she made. a couple of times said it was not a good choice. so she came closer to the edge of saying that, well, she said she wished she hadn't done it. she didn't explain quite why she did it because again she indicated it was a matter of convenience but it was clear from the recent e-mail release monday that it was hardly convenien convenient. there was confusion it didn't always work. it was not the most convenient thing so. clearly there were issues of privacy that were involved. but she wasn't prepared to acknowledge that. i think they do want to reset the campaign and try to get out from under this. as much as they can given the fact there is a continuing fbi investigation. >> right. based on that last angle you were saying there, something we played in the sound bite that jumped out at me her argument

there was so much going on in the world she couldn't have had time to think about what type of e-mail to yooxt obviously someone put considerable thought into this so does that defense really hold water? >> well, it's hard to say because she was basically continuing to same system she used as a senator. and what i said to her now you're in the national security cabinet. doesn't that make a difference. her point is she handled classified information, she says, in a different way. verbally, within a secure environment and that she says that there was no intentional exchange of classified information on this, on this private system. that's still very much in dispute as you know. a lot of arguments about that and only yesterday when we were sitting down her very close adviser jake sullivan who had been her deputy chief of staff at the state department, was testifying for seven hours before the benghazi select committee. again, that committee of, house

republican led, is controversial, adam schiff, a key member, a democrat from california had an op-ed saying the committee politicized itself. she will have her opportunity on october 22 to testify to the committee. she is insisting on doing it in public so they can't selectively leak what she did or did not say. so far this week alone jake sullivan testified and of course cheryl mills, former chief of staff, testified and still to come next week is bryan pagliano, the young man who set up the system is going to he says through his lawyer, take the fifth amendment. and not answer questions. >> did she have comment on that, the fact he is going to take the fifth? >> she has said the campaign has said, i should say, they tried to talk him out of that. but that is his legal right. so clearly he no longer works for her and by the way, "the washington post" reports that he was paid privately by the clintons for maintaining that server in addition he was

receiving from the state department. >> i thif there was a sum of $5,000 at one point. any conventional wisdom my bryan pagliano is taking the fifth? >> we don't know what else might be out there or why. he has every right to do that but clearly this is not a good image for the campaign. he no longer works for hillary clinton. and had been replaced actually after he left the state department so he hasn't work forward her for a number of years. that's not what they want out there. but there is nothing they can do to avoid it. now she's -- she said she's going to do, they said she is going to do more interviews. this was the first in a long time. only the third since she announced for the presidency. and i think they are going to have a much more public outreach because what they were doing in the midst of this e-mail controversy wasn't working to contain it politically. >> yours was a long interview. i was speaking with your

executive producer. i do want to ask you about her perception among voters. play a little from that. >> but the first words that came to mind when asked about you were liar, untrustworthy, crooked. how does that make you feel? >> well, certainly doesn't make me feel good, but i am very confident that by the time this campaign has run its course, people will know that what i've been saying is accurate and i will have a chance to do that in front of the entire world with the congressional committee hearing. they may disagree as i now disagree with the choice that i made but the facts that i have put forth have remained the same. >> andrea, you get the sense the campaign is actively trying to make changes? >> yes. indeed. and she points out, the campaign points out, that was a quinnipiac poll as i said in the way i set it up, which was republicans and democrats.

so they believe that poll does not accurately reflect what they are experiencing on the campaign among potential democratic voters. that was a very negative poll. she has taken some hits here. but she also carried all of the past attacks and the controversies and the investigations involving the clintons so she has very long biography for them to deal with, what they hope they can do is show also that she has the experience. and by the way, this was done on the anniversary of the 20th anniversary today, when i went to beijing to cover her speech as first lady where she made her first major human rights or women's rights, and human rights are women's rights speech. it was 20 years ago. it was very controversial at the time. the chinese were furious. they hope they can talk about her foreign policy experience and what she would do for the economy. >> i was watching slips of that beijing speech. i think it was just hair styles

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added and that as we talked about before meets that threshold of 200,000 jobs or more. brings unemployment down to 5.1%, the lowest since 2008. that happened steadily year over year. i think we see the progress here down to 5.1%. you are seeing jobs in the health care sector pick up. not in oil exploration. the thousands of jobs lost in that field because of low gas prices seem to be now transferring over to manufacturing and construction. so that's good news. they are not totally lost, just moved. >> that is good news. what about the traveling time, what's the outlook for the the holiday weekend? >> well, it looks like according to aaa 35.5 million people will be traveling 50 miles or more. that is the highest again since 2008. the vast majority which car. of course gas prices more than a dollar less on average than they were a year ago. so i think you'll see roadside restaurants benefiting from that, perhaps theme parks.

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welcome back to weekends with alex witt. to kentucky where supporters of county clerk kim davis will hold at least two veepts outside of the jail where she is held a day after deputy clerks began issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples after davis banned them because of religious

beliefs. sarah is outside of the county jail in kentucky. good morning to you. first question, how long is davis expected to stay there? >> reporter: that is the million dollar question. right now the answer is indefinitely. her attorneys say she is in good spirits, she has been doing bible study and is prepared to stay for as long as it takes. this morning a defiant kim davis still behind bars. her husband says she has no plans to resign as rowan county clerk and won't issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. >> she will stay in jail. she will not bow to nobody. >> late friday a judge declined to put his order on hold while davis torps prepare an appeal. the news came after a die of triumph for same-sex couples who got their marriage licenses from deputy clerks. >> right now i want to go hug my mom and dad. >> reporter: davis' supporters hail her as a christian solder

in the fight against gay marriage. her lawyers compare her to including martin luther king. >> she is willing as dr. king wrote in a letter from the birmingham jail to pay the consequences of that decision and that's why she's here though she shouldn't be. >> davis is getting support from some politicians. mike huckabee a former minister is the planning a rally and a visit with davis in jail this coming week. >> this is the criminalization of christianity. what she did was follow the kentucky constitution. >> reporter: the aclu and the attorneys representing the couples turned away say her continued choices are keeping her in jail. >> she chose not to comply with the law. for every other citizen in this country when you choose to break the law there are consequences. and there are consequences for government officials. >> reporter: controversial case that could go on indefinitely.

and davis' attorneys are questioning if the marriage licenses issued yesterday are in fact valid since they don't contain her signature. the county attorney and lawyers for the the couples assert they are. >> thank you so much from morehead, kentucky. we're going to bring you pictures from munich. what you are seeing the first group of myant gras who arrived at the train station there. thousands of migrants have crossed the austrian hungarian border by bus, it's happening days after authorities blocked them from boarding trains. and richard engel is at the border now with the latest. richard. >> reporter: good morning, alex. here at the hungarian/austrian border you can see traffic is the backed up for miles as this morning hungarian authorities relented, finally coming under enormous pressure, agreeing to bring some of the refugees and migrants who have been in this country for days, some of them for weeks, to allow them to

cross. they made it. they won. buses took thousands of migrants from hungary into austria, a simple border crossing but this was a hard fought victory which they had to earn one step at a time. from there many were quickly loaded onto trains for vienna. friday, the migrants and refugees mostly from syria finally got fed up in hungary and decided to head for the austrian border, on foot, 100 miles away. the hungarian government had been giving them a hard time, corralling them into camps, sometimes beating them and forcing them off trains. this man lost his leg. like many he was angry and confused as to why the government was hassling instead of helping them. we bought train tickets but they won't let us travel, he said. with reporters following every

step, and babies in the sun, children two to a stroller it all became too embarrassing for the hungarian government. which finally gave the migrants and refugees what they wanted, passage out of the country so they could head further north and west to wealthier parts of europe. >> alex, this is certainly not over. hungary insists this is a one-time effort that it is not going to get into the business of shuttling refugees through this country and delivering them to austria. but, that message is not being received by the refugees and migrants, more have started to walk toward the border. they also expect to be picked up. it is unclear how many more people are going to be walking and what the hungarian government will do now. alex. >> richard engel, thank you for that report. hillary clinton is back on the campaign trail today in new hampshire where she will get the endorsement of the senior

senator jean shaheen, a day after clinton addressed her private e-mail controversy in an interview with andrea mitchell. and kelly o'donnell is in new hampshire this morning. with a big good morning, fallout from this interview? >> reporter: well, alex, i think that the labor day weekend is an important gear shift for the clinton campaign as it is in many campaign cycles. and this interview was a chance for clinton to offer reassurance, extra explanation to some of her democratic voters who have been uneasy about the e-mail issue. they are setting up for her event which is hours away here, and she was able to in some ways acknowledge what the controversy has cost her. hillary clinton offers this apology. >> at the end of the day, i am sorry that this has been confusing to people and has raised a lot of questions. and i take responsibility and it wasn't the best choice. >> reporter: clinton is paying a

steep political price for her decision to use a private e-mail server at her home instead of the government system while secretary of state. >> well, i certainly wish i had made a different choice and i know why the american people have questions about it. >> reporter: in an exclusive interview with andrea mitchell clinton defended her actions a above board while also acknowledging that polls show damage to her trustworthiness. >> how does that make you feel? >> certainly doesn't make me feel good but i am very confident that by the time this campaign has run its course, people will know that what i've been saying is accurate. >> reporter: often the target of donald trump clinton rejected his blast your opponent style. >> he is great at innuendo and conspiracy theories and really defaming people. that's not what i want to do in my campaign. >> now trump has tripped himself

up on foreign policy. in a radio interview with host hugh hewitt. >> are you familiar with general sulemani. >> yes. go ahead. give me -- tell me. >> he runs the qods forces. >> yes. i think the kurds by the way have been horribly mistreated. >> not the kurds. the iranian guards, the bad guys. >> trump turn theed on the interviewer a prominent conservative by phoning in his complaint to msnbc's morning joe. >> i thought he said kurds this third rate radio announcer that i did the show. like got you got you. every question was do i know this one and that one. >> reporter: women, hugh hewitt is considered very favorably by many conservatives, it's part of his normal style to ask the same set of questions, so he says he does not think it was a got you. trump turned on that interviewer

even sort of in his very trump way said that by election day he'd know more about foreign policy than hugh hewitt. back in new hampshire where hillary clinton has a couple of events today. you mentioned jean shaheen, she is the senator, has a unique role in that she is the only woman who has been both governor of her state and a united states senator, long history with shaheen and her husband billy and the clintons so that's a big endorsement locally. later in the day she will be with organized labor, of course it is labor day weekend, and when you're a democrat running for president organized labor is one of your key base components to try to drive supporters out to get them to caucuses and other states to get them to the polls here so it's an important weekend for hillary clinton. >> right you are. thank you so much from portsmouth. the case of jailed clerk kim davis, twhil become a huge legal battle? that's next. what about a deal?

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let's go to kentucky and same sex marriage case that is testing the boundaries of religious freedom. county clerk kim davis remains behind bars this morning after a federal judge ordered her into custody for twice refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. one of davis' attorneys spoke to her from behind bars yesterday and he says she has a clear conscience and has no plans to resign. >> she also loves god, and one thing she can't do is issue a license for marriage under her name and under the authority of the clerk of the court for rowan county that authorizes marriage that is contrary to god's design for marriage. we need more people that have conscience whether you agree or not that have conscience and convictions and willing to stand on their convictions like kim davis does. >> joining me is seema, host of the docket. she is also a criminal defense

attorney and former prosecutor. a welcome to you. first question here, is there a first amendment case to be made on the grounds of religious freedom? does the state have an obligation to accommodate her religious objections? >> not any more. after hobby lobby we don't have that religious freedom. in this case specifically she is not a private vendor, for instance, owning a bridal shop, refusing service. she is a government employee and there was a 2006 case involving a prosecutor where the case held that government employees have limited freedom. she has to act within the authority of the government, and issue the licenses. so, absolutely not. >> okay. so much of this story has focused on the fact that kim davis is an elected official. >> right. >> so how does this play out in your mind as the lawyers try to fight this in court. >> great question. okay. number one, she cannot be fired. in order to have her removed she would have to be impeached by

the state legislature, and then tried by the state senate, which seems to be a very long process. so, i don't think that's going to be happening either. the other issue is they could remove her from jail and just fine her but then who is suffering, the taxpayers, they are the ones pay are for it. >> what about the point that was made by her lawyer saying that the marriage licenses that were issued yesterday may not be valid because they don't bear her signature. is that true? there's five or six deputy clerks that i would think do the job as well, right? >> here's why that is not true. one, the law of the land. so that makes those licenses valid. two, in court the judge ordered the deputies to go forward and issue the licenses. so the judge reiterated the law that already exists so those licenses are valid. >> okay. so here's the question. given that these are two profound schools of thought, personally held beliefs, whether you are for gay marriage or you

want your right to religious freedom and oppose it. is there any room for compromise here? >> i think the deputies is the best compromise because alex, after the supreme court ruled for same-sex marriage the governor said okay, 120 county clerks you have to issue these licenses, one. and two, they changed the language of the form to make it gender neutral. so all they have to do is change the form again to remove her name and show that it's valid with a deputy signature or without a signature at all or with just a blanket stamp. >> okay. thank you so much. the federal reserve may raise interest rates for the first time in almost a decade. what happens to your money if it does? that's next. it took serena williams years to master the two handed backhand.

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the dow and s&p both closed down more than 1.5% after a mixed jobs report failed to subdue wall veet's worries, that

the federal reserve will raise rates pour the first time in nine years. the unemployment rate is down to 5.1%, the lowest level since the beginning of the great recession. joining me, jared bernstein senior fellow at the center of budget priorities and the man i trust most with the answers to my economic questions. thanks for joining me. >> great to be here, alex. >> we'll start with the jobs report. we have 173,000 jobs added, less than economists expected, but we also have unemployment at 5.1%. but what's your overall read on it? >> the 173,000 jobs was a bit lower than we've seen in recent months. that was considered a bit of a miss. if you actually average the last few months together which is the right thing to do, because these monthly numbers are volatile, they bounce around a lot, you'd get a jobs gain number that's well north of 200,000. it really was okay on that front. the 5.1% unemployment, that's

what the federal reserve thinks of as what they call their full employment unemployment rate, meaning they believe that's the rate of unemployment -- that's as low as you can go without triggering faster inflation. that's why they're thinking about raising. before we get too excited about what i think is actually a pretty decent, solid report, here's a couple things to consider -- first of all, there's really been very, very little in the way of wage pressures. even if the job market looks tight, it's not really feeding into people's paychecks in a way they can recognize. many people, and i'd say i'm one of them, think it's preemptive of the federal reserve to tap the brakes at this point. >> do you think they will do that? and p the fed does race interest rates -- first time, by the way, since 2006, right? >> right. >> what happens? how does that affect us? >> first of all, if they raise -- i'd say there's a 40%

chance they'll raise at their meeting in mid september. they may wait a while. the wage factor, very little in the way of price pressures, in the markets there's volatility and turmoil. this is a benchmark interest rate for the whole economy. it bleeds into auto loan rates, home loan rates. if they praise, it's probably going to be a quarter of a percent. what economists call 25 basis points. that's a small increase, but it is an increase and it will slightly increase -- >> we talked about the underemployment rate. that's still high at 10.3%, nearly 2 3rs down since a year ago. do you think it feels like the economy is back on track? >> i think it feels like the economy is getting back on track. that underemployment rate, very important. it includes -- right now there's about 2.5 million people out there who are working part time, but they'd rather be working

full time. so they're underemployed. they're not unemployed, they've got jobs but aren't working as many hours as they want. that used to be 17%. now it's 10%. you really see an improvement. no question we have a job market that's on track. but until we really see wages begin to grow faster, i would argue that the fed should hold their fire and not try to fight these phantom menaces that i don't really see out there. that said, i don't think a very small bump in the industry is going to make a big dmirchs the economy, but it is a small move in the right direction. >> wall street up and down, volatility all over the place. it makes people feel a little worried about what's going on out there. >> wall street has a mind of its own. trying to figure out wall street is like diagnose ig manic depressiveness. that said, wall street doesn't like uncertainty. there's uncertainty about this

federal reserve issue. there's also been lots of global weakness to consider. >> jared bernstein. that was a pretty funny analogy, thank you. that's a wrap of this week's "weekends with alex witt." straight ahead, more smart political talk on "up with steve kornacki." jonathan capehart sitting in. [ school bell rings ]

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