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that's coming up along with a release of brand new polling information of where things stand in iowa and new hampshire. plus a week of presidential firsts for president obama. all the details on that are ahead. but we begin with new developments in europe's migrant crisis. asylum seekers arrived to applause and music in germany. germany and austria temporarily opened their borders to them after the migrants and refugees were stranded in hungary for days. they bussed more than,000 people to the austrian border. abandoning the train station in order to walk toward a better life. the european union has appeared ill prepared to deal with the crisis, caught off guard by those who are arriving and unable to stop thousands more
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from trying. this morning the pope called on every parish and religious community across europe to take in one migrant family. the vatican says it will be taking in two. the recent refugee and migrants to europe isn't just a problem there but for the u.s. as well. 14 senate democrats wrote a letter to president obama in may asking him to do just that before the numbers in europe started to swell. to date the u.s. has welcomed or has plans to welcome hundreds of refugees. within the obama administration there has been intense discussion about additional action, including the possibility of a major announcement tied to pope francis' visit to washington this month. andrea mitchell asked hillary clinton whether the u.s. should
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take in more syrian refugees in her exclusive interview friday. >> i think the entire world has to come together. it should not be just one or two countries or not just europe and the united states. we should do our part, as should the europeans. but this is a broader, global crisis. >> reporter: joining me now, sarah crow, spokesperson for unicef. let's also welcome jason johnson, political professor at hiram college and bureau chief at the chicago sun times and former republican congresswoman nan hayworth, who is also working for the carly for america campaign. let me start with you, sarah. what should the united states be be doing? >> the entire world has to react. this is fast becoming a global crisis. the kind of images we've seen in the last few weeks really seems to have been a wake-up call. it's put children at the heart
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of this crisis, this refugee and migrant waves coming into europe. the most important thing is really to look at the root causes. what is pushing these people out? that is the syrian crisis. we are urging united response to end the syrian crisis. >> in an interview on friday hillary clinton was asked about taking in more refugees. >> i'm not talking about taking on a permanent basis. >> sure. >> we have huge refugee camps in jordan, lebanon, spread more in the population in turkey refugee camps and maybe we have to set up some sort of refugee camp structure for the time being in order to deal with it. >> sarah, your response? >> yes, indeed, it is a global
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issue now. we're seeing in syria, for instance, the majority of people are displaced there. 2.7 million. this is engulfing the middle east and europe. what wha we're urging is safeguarding children's interests and that means protecting them when they come through and making sure that they have their basic needs met. children have special needs and they need to be treated first and foremost as children and not as migrants or refugees. >> sarah, let me ask you to combine two questions into one. the first part is, do you think the european countries can come together with some sort of unified response to this crisis? the second part of the question is the arab world is doing next to nothing about this. can we get them to do more?
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>> well, actually, it's not true that they're doing next to nothing. the majority of those who are displaced and refugees in the middle east are going into lebanon, turkey, jordan. they're taking the big bulk of the numbers. when it comes to children moving in now into europe, we're seeing a 75% increase in the number of children who are looking for asylum. of course, they're with their families in the most case. so, they need to urgently be taken care of, to be protected, to be schooled if they're at school age. and also just to have their most basic needs met. at the moment we're seeing children being left often out in the open. these kinds of horrific images really need to be the only way to stop this suffering is really a united action across europe. and we're coming into the general assembly soon. we hope this will push now a diplomatic solution to the se
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syrian crisis in particular. >> general assembly at the united nations is what sarah is talking about. from "the new york times," highlighting the political failure of the west that we failed to find a solution to the war in syria and failed to invest enough in humanitarian resources. >> i completely agree. and this is -- you can't put it all on president obama, but this is on president obama, on vladimir putin and every single leader who tried to irresponsibly say we're going to manage what's going on with assad and the insurgents but still sell them weapons. this is a responsibility for any nation that has had any sort of involvement there. these people, it's through no fault of their own and therefore, still the responsibility of the nations involved. >> i agree that there's been a failure of leadership on the part of -- let's talk about the united states. we are the world's greatest democracy and the defender of freedom.
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we have pursued a path over the past several years that essentially has largely ignored the pleas of our friends, friendly democracies that are in the middle east. israel, jordan, the kurds. democratic-loving people who are in the midst of developing sectarian crisis. yet we have empowered -- effectively, we are empowering the islamist democracy. these are fundamentals that have to be addressed. >> what specifically should the united states be doing? i mean, this say war-wary country, wary of two wars in the middle east. the idea of going into syria is something that a lot of americans don't want to do. >> you're talking, though, on two levels. the refugee crisis is something that's a lot easier politically for congress to address.
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i would not be surprised if, when they return from summer break in a few days, this is addressed. this is a place where u.s. workers, aid assistance and other countries can do something. and, as well i wouldn't be surprised at the time there are more refugees that are taken in. i think people remember in this country about the errors in the past of not taking in people during world war ii. we're not going to repeat that, i bet. but in this case, though, there are people right on borders of countries that could help them. i think for the moment you can't conflate this with the larger issue of intractable seemingly situation in the mideast. >> i was thinking about what sarah had said about getting to
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root causes. i'm thinking you're talking about the conflict between bashir al assad. >> right. >> reporter: and t>> and the fo trying to oust him. action from the west and action specifically from the united states, what exactly can be done? that's what i'm looking for. i'm not hearing that. >> also required us to deal with russia, china. as you mentioned, jonathan, we can't just march in with syria. the country doesn't have the money, the resources. we don't have the political will. we do have to find some way to bring both of these sides to the table in a more consistent fashion. that's the only way this kind of instability, these refugees, these migrants, however it is we want to describe them. that could be a bigger issue down the road. >> sarah, let me end with you here with just a basic question. why do we always find ourselves
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in this situation? when i say we i mean we as people on this planet. once again, we are watching other people in other countries fleeing conflict and fleeing their homelands because they have no other choice. >> well, i think since the beginning of time, human beings have done that. we'll continue to do that. if i could just give you some up-to-date information from my colleagues on the border of former yugoslavia and greece, they're seeing 5,000 people coming through and children particularly in desperate need, very dehydrated and so on. we're on the ground with the small operation, bringing in water. water bladders, social treatment for children. they don't want to talk about their journey and they don't want to talk about the war that they've seen, that no child should ever see. really again it's underlying the need for diplomatic efforts. that is the only way that is going to end the suffering and the misery in the long-term.
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in the short term, there needs to be united action across europe and across the middle east to try to support search and rescue operations, safeguarding children's rights. all of these international agreements that are already there, that all these countries have signed up for. the convention of the rights of the child. it's really about implementing these international principles in a very humane, orderly, dignified way that respects the rights of people who are refugees and migrants. >> desperate times for people in search of peace. sarah crowe, thank you for joining us this morning. how hillary clinton's 20 years ago helped her form the campaign message she's putting out today. first tom brady scores a victory against one of the most powerful men in professional sports. what's next for roger goodell and the nfl? that's next. stay with us. shoots and burns its way into your day,
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snap chat users throughout new england were treated to this, snapping herself in maine with a caption that reads "tom is free." a punishment after its investigation of deflate gate. the league is appealing the decision saying in part, quote, we will appeal today's ruling in order to uphold the collectively bargained responsibility to protect the integrity of the game. while the legal phase of this process continues we look forward to focusing on football and the opening of the regular season. ongoing saga of deflate gate is
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one of the many headaches for the league. there's an upcoming film talking about the concussions that players receive called, nationally "concussion." telling "the new york times," quote, there was never an instance where we compromised the story telling to protect ourselves from the nfl. the nfl adding in a statement, quote, we're encouraged by the ongoing focus on critical issue of player health and safety. it's also been one year since ray rice was suspended after a video showed him punching his then fiance in a hotel elevator. he has since been reinstated and currently is a free agent with only days to go until the regular season begins. joining me now to talk about all of this is harry cicma, and mike friedman from the bleacher report. thank you so much for getting up on a holiday sunday to be here
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with me. tom brady said this on a post on facebook. i want to see what you make of this. while i pleased to be eligible to play i am sorry our league had to endure this. i don't think it has been good for our sport. to a large degree, we have all lost. >> first of all, i love the notion that a guy who is worth $100 million, married to a super model is free like he's gandhi. i covered the nfl for 20 years. it's the single dumbest story i've ever covered. it's about deflated footballs and really a story about egos, the quarterback ego. he says he doesn't do it but clearly something says to me he did and the commissioner of the sport. and neither side wanting to give in. it's been crazy, almost a year of all of this. >> fans are definitely turned off with all the scandals.
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ray rice, adrian peterson with child abuse. that's one we didn't mention. it's piling on top, one on another. i think it was ridiculous, definitely ego-based and i think the judge made the right decision nullifying the suspension because there wasn't enough proof. meanwhile the fact that there's an appeal shows another ego situation with goodell. he doesn't want to be the man left out of -- >> he doesn't want to lose. >> yeah, he doesn't want to lose. >> i'll come back to roger goodell in a moment. wasn't the decision not about the guilt or innocence of tom brady? it was all on process, in the way that roger goodell applied the suspension, is that correct? >> yeah. one of the dynamics is roger goodell. players hate that he has this power and think it's unfair. a lot of players are suspect of the patriots they love that tom
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brady did this. love it. they love to see tom brady take on roger goodell. they want somebody to take him on and the power that he has. >> is it only the patriots? you have spy gate with the jets and hernandez, the murdering, terrible situation there. tom brady is a pretty classy guy. i know he likes the balls to be a little bit softer. he throws a very heavy ball. it's harder for the receivers to catch. pretty much he's a class act and i think he's pretty clean. >> venable washington post, my day job, several sources told the paper friday that nfl owners are planning to re-evaluate roger goodell's role in the player disciplinary process. do you think those discussions will go anywhere? >> i've spoken to a couple of owners and there's definitely a movement to try to get something at least discussed. but the owners -- part of this is the owners' fault. one thing that happens with this story is that roger goode.
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l is like a heat shield for the owners. they like the fact that he's out there, taking all the heat and they're over there and nobody is talking about him. i don't know if they're going to go after his power. they like the idea that he's taking the heat zbhie think the biggest problem is that the fans are turned off because of the scandals. deflate gate may be the straw that broke the camel's back. he's doing this with tom brady to hold an iron fist, to keep himself afloat. if he drops the ball on this one, it could be the end. >> on that note, thank you. mike friedman, harry cicma, thank you for joining us this morning. clues investigators hope will help them find a cop killer in illinois. next, why this weekend is so significant for hillary clinton. . just pick a size. small, medium, large and extra large. if you need less data, pick small.
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hillary clinton is campaigning in iowa after spending the day in new hampshire yesterday. kristen welker is in iowa. kristen? >> reporter: her goal is to move beyond this e-mail controversy. that gets very difficult when there continues to be this drip, drip, drip of information. just yesterday, another revelation. secretary clinton acknowledging that she paid her state department staffer, brian p padliano to set up and maintain her private e-mail server. he also said he would plead the fifth, refusing to testify before a congressional committee. secretary clinton wants to move beyond this controversy but it gets difficult to do that. she gave that big interview to andrea mitchell, expressed regret for using a private e-mail account.
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then we had another revelation on saturday. today she will be here, trying to turn the page and focused on the economy, on jobs. bernie sanders, his surge has been fueled by an anti-establishment sentiment here and by that e-mail controversy, he is within striking distance of her, within seven points of secretary clinton, according to the latest poll. now looking forward, it is going to be a very busy 48 hours, canned at a times expected to be out on the campaign trail. lot of eyes will be on joe biden, mark iing the battlegrou state of pennsylvania as he continues to mull a run. jonathan? >> kristen welker, thanks. hillary clinton stressed her commitment to more than half of the american public. >> these are not new fights for me. you know, i'm happy to have others join the fight.
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i'm happy to have people discover some of these problems. you know, too often -- too often these are called women's issues. well, i am a proud, lifelong fighter for women's issues because i firmly believe what's good for women is good for america. >> those remarks coming in the midof an important weekend for the former first lady. it was 20 years ago this weekend during a speech in beijing that clinton famously declared women's rights are human rights and on friday during her exclusive interview with nbc's andrea mitchell, clinton reflected on what's happened in the decades since then. take a listen. >> i was very humbled and proud at the same time to represent the united states and make that speech and to set forth a platform for action. 20 years later, i would say this. women and girls have made progress in health and
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education. but if you look at economic rights and participation, political rights and participation, security and conflict, we have a lot to do. as a senator, as secretary of state, i argued strongly for putting women's rights at the center of foreign policy. this, for me, was not only a moral issue, humanitarian issue, a rights and equality issue. it was a security and strategic issue. >> have questions surrounding clinton's use of a private e-mail server clouded her focus on women's rights and women voters? is her intended message breaking through all the controversy? the panel is here to discuss this. what do you think? >> jonathan, number one, i would say we are very fortunate to have, in this presidential race a woman candidate who is effectively addressing the is e
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issues that plague all women. >> and somehow i think -- >> her name is carly fiorina. but seriously. to contend, as secretary clinton does, that she has the unique voice on behalf of america's women is completely false. >> hold on. i don't think she's saying anything that's false on this one. whatever you might think of hillary clinton, she has a track record on women's issues that go back decades even before her famous beijing speech, okay. and i'm not here to knock a woman candidate, okay? but what's fair is fair, okay? carly fiorina might be another voice. they might agree or disagree on their approach to women's issues, which are human issues. >> no dispute there. >> one of the strong suits no matter what you think of hillary clinton, is going back to her days working for the children's defense fund as the first lady of arkansas and before that, frankly, working with the fund.
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and so i think we have to put that speech and what she did in new hampshire yesterday was trying to rally her troops around one of the most noncontroversial aspects of her strong, indisputable record. by the way, i don't think the message that she welcomes fight on women's issues, i don't think she was talking about fiorina on this one. she had some other boys in mind. >> specifically boy. >> yeah, exactly. she knows full well these candidates will not have anything to say. and i think it's important that because of what hillary clinton has been talking about, she has brought together this idea that, yeah, women are humans. >> i think we've learned that with -- >> unfortunately too many politicians don't realize that. >> let's put this in context, though. her campaign also put out a video where -- to prove my point that fiorina is not, in this
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one, the issue. the clinton campaign put out a video ad slamming her main rivals, using her best of quotes that put them on the wrong side of issues, jeb bush talking about how much money we spend on women's health and ridiculous thing that these other candidates have said. that's what you're seeing now, is that she's rallying to her strength. endorsement of senator jean chahine in new hampshire, she and her husband have long been clinton supporters. had an they're trying to do really is rally the troops in new hampshire, cut into the end roads. >> do you know what's interesting here? eight years ago, hillary clinton running as a woman running for president was not at the forefront of her campaign. sheer ran away from it. >> right. >> i want to play a sound bite
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of one of -- something hillary clinton said and i'll get your reaction on the other side. >> where everyone has a shot of achieving their dreams and living up to their potential and, yes, where a father can say to his daughter, you can be anything you want, even president of the united states of america. >> and so we talked about jeb bush talking about taking away funding from women's programs and donald trump in his many sort of anti-woman things that he has said and proposals that he has. how do you compete with that? go ahead. >> respectfully, let's get away from the noise and get down to the fundamentals, particularly in these last several years of -- i would contend nonrecovery, at the very least
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infisht recovery, terrible economic blow several years ago, which is attributable, actually, at its root to bad government policy. but we have women in this country who are trying to put food on the table, take care of their children, their families who are disproportionately disadvantaged by bad policies that originate from hillary clinton and her party. she supports policies that have massively transferred wealth -- let me finish for just a moment. >> i'm sorry. >> finish real quick then we've got to go. >> from american families, from american women to the powerful and the advantaged through government programs like raising health insurance cost. >> oh, come on. >> the cost of mortgages, cost of college education, the value of savings has gone down. we are punishing the middle class and working people with bad policies. >> and now the counter point. >> the counter point is mitt romney tried mightily last time
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around just to make an economic issue to get women voters. it did not work. you cannot ignore republican stands on other issues, including abortion, when you talk about women's votes and when you're looking for someone who is seen as a champion. you're looking for somebody who is a champion of everything, whole package of things out there. not just the economic -- >> but if you don't have economic security, you can't take care of yourself and your family. >> everybody talks about that. let's not use this as a segue into the broader issue of economic policy. it has proven not to win women voters if you just focus on that. >> that's going to have to be the last word on this piece. we can talk about it more during the break. taking on one donald trump. woi the radio host is defending his stance.
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authorities say they have new clues in the search for the person or persons who killed an illinois police officer last week. investigators call the new discovery important. >> reporter: something officials think now could help lead them to whoever kill ed lieutenant charles glinewicz shortly after he made this call in. 17 minutes later, officers found gliniewicz shot to death. they won't say what their new evidence is, aside from calling it, quote, significant. earlier, they confirmed the
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officer's gun was recovered at the scene. >> it was found near the lieutenant's remains. i can't reveal how many times it was fired. >> reporter: fbi technicians are also piecing together several videos from intersections and area homes. the images they're seeing match up with the description offered by gliniewicz. >> two woit and mwhite men and black. >> they're very dangerous. >> we're hoping that they're still within this area, within our reach. >> that was nbc's kristen dahlgren reporting. turning now to the weather, labor day weekend may be the unofficial end of summer but it feels like summer is far from over for much of the country. meteorologist veronica johnson joins us now. >> that's right. what does that mean, jonathan? summer heat and some summer storms. take a look.
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the latest satellite and radar showing clouds and where it's raining. things may be quieting down over the south, they're still firing in the midwest across wisconsin and minnesota. that is where there will be a risk of severe weather with hail, high winds and even the possibility of river flooding right along the weather front driving eastward. that will be the main focus for the next 24, 48 hours. here is a look at the weather today. nice for the eastern third of the country. the north central stormy. temperatures topping out in the mid 80s in d.c., atlanta. even in new york. it's been awfully pleasant. midsection part of the country will be warming up to around 96. 100 degrees. san an tone, 97 with oklahoma city, more storms chicago to st. louis. even the east this time, labor day itself will start warming up. best location, of course, always
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the beach. >> pity neither of us will be there. meteorologist veronica johnson, thank for joining us. brand new polls coming up on the democratic and republican races for president. as donald trump would say, this is huge! that is ahead. first new science that joe biden might be nearing a decision. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me... and you're talking to a rheumatologist about a biologic, this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me reach for more. doctors have been prescribing humira for more than 10 years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contrubutes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions,
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i have to be honest with you, in everyone who has come to me, i can't look you straight in the eye and say now i know i can do that. that is as honest as i can be. >> whether or not he ultimately decides to run behind the scenes the vice president has been acting like a candidate, doing the things one needs to do in order to launch a national campaign. and that includes the meeting with elizabeth warren. here is what she had to say about biden when asked about that meeting. >> we talked about the direction this country has been going in. we talked about the capture of this country by those who have money and power. it was a good, long, rambly policy conversation. >> was there any talk of the vice president of a joint ticket even jokingly? >> it was a long conversation.
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>> okay. okay. >> to continue, okay. i mean, come on now. that response -- every time i see it like what's this about? >> no matter what she says, this does not sound like -- first off, this sounds like a father in mourning. >> yes. >> he does not sound like a man who is planning on running for president. >> especially in that last -- >> yeah, that last one, your heart just goes out for him. >> you just feel sorry for him. >> i don't think this is a decision he has to make right now. >> he doesn't have to. the only real deadlines in this are when the individual states filing deadlines start. and it's sooner than later. even though the primaries might not take place next year, i think they start rolling out in either late october or november. so even if he missed the first democratic debate in october. >> which is in october. >> not the end of it. neither he nor clinton need name i.d. neither he nor clinton need to feel the urge to give platform
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to the other democrats. >> right. >> so he has some more time here. >> i'm among professionals here. if i may make a prediction, i think vice president biden will only run if elizabeth warren would consent to be the vice president ial candidate. otherwise, what policy contrast does he offer versus hillary clinton? >> i think he would take another route and not emphasize her differences. don't want to take her down, so to speak, if he does this. >> right. >> he wants to prevail. >> he will only enter this race if after all these sort of honeycomb hideout conversations he's having with people, if anyone gives him a clear path to beat hillary clinton. he doesn't want to do just do this for entertainment sake. no one has told him yet there's a pathway in which he can beat
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her. >> nan's assertion here that is interesting, that vice president biden wouldn't get into the race without senator warren assenting to being on the ticket. what do we make a warren/biden ticket? >> first of all, i respectfully disagree that there has to be a deal ahead of time. i think senator warren is too smart to do that. >> right. i just don't think she would. >> she's being tantalizingly coy. >> i haven't seen her tease and flirt like this before. so that strikes me. maybe i don't know her well enough. struck me as out of character. jonathan, to your point, what is useful for biden now is to be seen with warren because what you have to do is see if it's possible to tamp down the bernie sanders search right now, which appeals to the populous
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progressive wing of the democratic party. >> poom on my twitter feed are constantly complaining why aren't we talking about bernie sanders? how does the vice president do that with bernie sanders who has thousands upon thousands of people showing up at his rallies? >> he can always just say electability. bernie sanders is not going to win a presidency, let alone a nomination. if he cannot improve his numbers with latinos and african-americans. people forget. let's say hillary clinton ends up winning iowa and berne he sanders ends up winning in new hampshire. bernie sanders does not win in south carolina. he's not winning that. bernie sanders is not a real competitor unless he can expand the base that he appeals to. >> this is an artifact -- we have similar artifacts on the republican side -- of the early
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states being so emphasized. >> if we're talking about biden, though, i don't think bernie sanders is a factor. i think he has to feel in his heart and his head that there's a way to win. >> right. still ahead, is bernie sanders turning up the heat on hillary clinton in the early voting states? newly released nbc news polling at the top of the hour. conservative radio host who stumped trump isn't done with him yet. stay with us. has one simple plan. just pick a size. small, medium, large and extra large. if you need less data, pick small. if you need more, go with extra large-- a whopping 12 gigs for $80 a month plus $20 per phone. pick a size. change it up anytime. it's the simple way to get the best network. and now, get $300 when you switch. only at verizon.
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going to ask you commander in chief questions after he said this is your sixth time on the show. so trump wasn't a newbie to that show. >> no, no. didn't we have this last time with her man cain? >> yes. >> no, that's part of your job. >> i heard the audio. it was hard to distinction the word kurd from crude. >> carly fiorina was able to answer it. >> and she did. totally familiar with the situation. give her that. okay. >> exactly. >> and you can't -- i think trump's fascination that trump has with himself and his ability to take down interviewers may fade. i think it wouldn't hurt him to study up. >> well, that's what -- and, you know, as nan was saying, because carly fiorina is her
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candidate -- >> i'm speaking for myself in this. >> i will speak for -- i listened to that interview and carly fiorina showed once again that not only is she on top of the issue, she's incredibly disciplined. incredibly disciplined. you have to move on to one more thing involving donald trump. he tweeted yesterday meghan mccain was angry and obnoxious, will never make it on fox news. can do so much better. >> let me answer the question i wanted you to ask. >> go ahead. it's perfect. >> is donald trump -- if you're listening, give us a call or give me a call. i do want to know. are you running to run a tv network and hire people who should be on air talent or are you running to be the president of the united states? leave meghan mccain alone. we've got bigger problems. >> that's right.
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perfect. >> i'm wondering who has his twitter feed? you're trying to run a multimillion dollar company and run for president? he always has time for these ab noksz tweets and it makes no sense. it's unseemly for somebody to run for president. >> i want to get this one more thing in here. from former mayor rudy giuliani, de bl sachlt io's progressivism created city's homeless crisis. a city with homeless on its streets is a city that has no love of its people. >> the mayor has a civic duty to enhance the conditions that are conducive to helping the homeless who are capable of working find work, find housing, that they can afford. we need a vibrant economy to do that, certain amount of public discipline and example. we don't have that under mayor de blasio. >> i have my hands full
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following mayor rahm emanual. >> yeah. >> a homeless problem, the rent is too darn high. >> right. >> exactly, exactly. it's like you can't fix homelessness if we don't have houses they can move into. that's an issue in any major city. >> homelessness is a whole lot more than someone who doesn't have keys, who has lost their keys, who can't afford an apartment. there's a lot more usually going on there. still ahead a full hour of news and politics coming up, including brand new nbc polling numbers at the top of the hour. you'll want to see these. stay with us. [ school bell rings ]
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nomination? brand new poll results from nbc news in a few minutes. also the kentucky county clerk who refused to give marriage licenses to same-sex couples is spending her fourth day in jail. it's an issue that has galvanized the country. plus it's been a week of presidential firsts for president obama. the details on that are ahead. we begin this hour with europe's migrant crisis. many of them fleeing syria's long civil war. >> reporter: jonathan, hungary has relaxed some of its travel restrictions allowing them to more easily transit through this country, once again coming to this train station in budapest. they are allowed now to get on to the trains. most are heading toward the austrian border. from there through austria into germany. still coming thousands a day.
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it received 100,000 just last month. this is a massive crisis. european officials generally have decided that the solution is to try to distribute the migrants and refugees among their nations. the vatican said it would receive two migrant families and the pope encouraged every christian parish in europe as a sign of good faith to accept one family. european officials also acknowledge this is not a long-term solution, that they cannot just absorb these refugees. there need be to be attempts to resolve the issues in syria, iraq, afghanistan. all these failed and failing states in the muslim world where people have decided there is no hope at home and they have to seek better places where they can start a future with their
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families. most people decided the only way they can do that is the wealthier countries in europe. jonathan? >> richard engel, thank you so much. at the top of this hour, new polls released showing bernie sanders overtaking hillary clinton in new hampshire and closing in on her in iowa. new hampshire first. 39% of likely democratic voters surveyed say they are voting for bernie sanders, giving him a nine-point lead over hillary clinton. the rest of the field is in low, single digits. take a look at how these numbers compare to july. hillary clinton down nine points in the granite state in the last two months. sanders gaining 15 points. here are the results inf joe biden is in the picture. bernie sanders still holds the lead. 41% saying sanders would get their vote, 32% saying they
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would support hillary clinton. and joe biden pulling support from hillary clinton and berne he sanders finishing with 16%. hillary maintains her lead in iowa. hillary's lead is down 29 points since july, falling 7 points and sanders gaining 11. with joe biden in the race he pulls ten points equally from hillary clinton and bernie sanders. clinton is still in the lead with 38%, sanders at 27 and biden at 20. the takeaway for hillary clinton, mark, thanks for being here. what are we seeing in these numbers? >> jonathan, i think you're seeing the toll the last two months has taken on hillary clinton, particularly regarding the e-mail story. some other numbers, her favorability rating twenty from
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74% in july to 67% in this most recent poll, a drop of seven points. even among democrats her numbers are starting to lag a little bit. you can look at the dominant story that's followed hillary clinton over the last two months that's been about her e-mails or former i.t. staffer pleading the fifth. bernie sanders' excitement of crowds or the speculation of joe biden entering the race. there's one other explanation of what's going on here. establishment candidates either on the democratic or republican side are having a very difficult time. i know we'll get to the republican numbers. it's worth noting in iowa you add up donald trump, ben carson and carly fiorina, the three outsiders who have never held elected office before and that gets you 56% of the vote in iowa. the establishment candidates are having a very, very tough time
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right now. the outsiders are doing really well. one other final point, jonathan. it's worth noting that august and september polling doesn't always end up what happens. 2003 this time howard dean was the star of the democratic party and four years ago it was michelle bachmann and rick perry dominating the conversation in that race. things can change. >> talk more about what's happening on the republican side of the race. >> donald trump is leading in both iowa and new hampshire, jonathan. in iowa he is ahead seven points over ben carson, 29% to 22%. again you add up those two percentages and you get to 51%. then you have to go all the way down and see jeb bush at 6%. another sign that the establishment just isn't having a very good time and didn't have a very good summer. in the race for new hampshire,
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you end up having donald trump once again, at 28% of republicans in new hampshire. second place. it's interesting. john kasich who is at 12%. couple of other things worth noting, look at the percentages for jeb bush, marco rubio and scott walker in these iowa and in new hampshire. all in the mid to low single digits and just emphasize one more time all the people we thought were going to be the big front-runners in this race -- they might still very well be once we get to january and february had a very rough summer. >> yeah. that is definitely true. mark, stay with me. let's bring in this morning's panel. political science jason johnson, lynn sweet with the chicago sun times and former republican congresswoman nan hayworth working as a volunteer chair for carly fiorina super pac? okay. what do we think about these
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numbers? >> well, i think mark murray -- hi, mark. who disagrees? it's the e-mails. what else do you hear about in the campaign right now? it's very hard for them to get above it. i know they're trying. and it's only going to get a little worse, again, when congress comes back. >> right. >> and there's even more law measuring makers to put a shine on it. a lot of smart people are working in brooklyn. they have to -- i think figuring out a way to address this but here is what we know about hillary clinton. she has survived these episodes where people say oh, my god, freefall and all that. then she climbs back out. if i may, i want to -- >> we'll hear from jason. >> the person who said it the best in asking the question, andrea mitchell with her interview on friday said you felt it slipping away in '08. do you feel you might have it slip away again? and hillary clinton said andrea,
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i don't see it like that. >> the number i look at, iowa in particular -- it's a caucus. >> people sit in living rooms and hash this out. >> exactly. empty school gyms, church basements. it's the undecideds. iowa has a tendency to break late. as long as you've got 7 to 9% of the people who are undecided i always think in the case of somebody like hillary clinton, undecideds tend to break for the more well-known person and the incumbe incumbent. what looks like a seven or ten% lead could actually jump up to 15 if three-quarters of those undecideds end up breaking for her. i wouldn't be that worried if i were in the clinton campaign yet. >> can we not forget the history from 2008? she lost iowa. >> exactly. >> and she lost the nomination. >> bernie is not barack obama.
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>> you have biden and warren waiting in the wings to rescue things. >> you still think it's a biden/warren ticket? >> because there is -- a recent poll of voters asking what's the first thing that comes to mind? as you know, when you think of hillary clinton. dishonest. >> yes. >> untrustworthy, liar. there is this -- you see it on the republican side, too. in a sense it's almost -- there is a certain carryover effect from hillary clinton's bad image toward the republicans' so-called professional politicians as well. which is why you see donald trump, ben carson and carly fiorina gaining such popularity. she represents this cynical, manipulative, power-grabbing -- >> that's a very intense, negative, cynical view of secretary clinton. >> the e-mail controversy supports that. >> okay. but these numbers, do they encourage or discourage vice
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president biden, do you think, in his factoring whether he's going to run? >> i still think it's too soon to tell. there are many twists and turns to this. i'm sure no one in the clinton campaign is pleased with this because of all this talk about biden is a distraction from which she was trying to do. the only plus i could see -- maybe it isn't a big one. more talk about biden, it might drown out the e-mails. >> if i'm biden, this doesn't really change anything for me. i take half from hillary, half from bernie sanders. that still doesn't give me a pathway to victory. i'm still trying to work out my numbers if i'm him. >> hillary clinton's contingency plan if she loses iowa. the fact that she's losing to bernie sanders in the polls is
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significant. hillary rodham clinton's presidential campaign is methodically building a political firewall across the south in hopes of effectively locking up the democratic nomination in march regardless of any early setbacks in the iowa caucuses and the new hampshire primary. oklahoma, tennessee, texas, virgin virginia, clinton campaign targets. >> well -- >> this gets to the question, how do things look for bernie sanders? on fire in new hampshire and gaining ground in iowa. once you get down to those states what happens to him? >> look at those demographics. he's not going to win down there. >> i'm not a naysayer. the game is delicate. hillary clinton noi knows how to count. she has barack obama's lawyer, the delegate counter. and a week ago they said they have the bid running start with the super delegates from the democratic party.
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>> i'm going to give you the last word. any final thoughts from you, mark? >> we focus so much on hillary clinton and the democrats and certainly some of those numbers are very jaw dropping. again, i would just kind of look at where jeb bush and scott walker were in our july nbc meris poll. they were in double digits. you had jeb bush leading in new hampshire. you had scott walker leading in iowa. and all of a sudden those folks are now in single digits. it's worth reminding, we focus on hillary clinton. she's had a very tough summer. you can argue that jeb bush and scott walker have had a more brutal summer than she has had. >> i am with you on that. mark murray, thanks for being here today. >> thank you. still ahead, the special visitor jailed kentucky clerk kim davis is expecting this week. latest on the battle between
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do you know what's happening to jeb's crowd, as you know, right down the street? they're sleeping. they're sleeping now. >> that was donald trump mocking jeb bush a few weeks ago. while that comment seemed like hyperbole, check out what happened in a jeb bush hall in new hampshire. keep your eye on the woman in the right. in the baseball cap? it appears she is nodding off as the bu bush is sleeping. as we just discussed in the previous segment, jeb bush
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finishing a distant fourth in new hampshire in the newest poll from nbc news. what many see as a must-win state for the former florida governor added up. and it's been another bad week for jeb bush. a week in which the campaign announced a fund-raising contest where contributors could win tickets to see jeb bush appear on the first episode of the late show with stephen colbert this tuesday. the problem? no one ran that idea by colbert or his staff. >> two can play at this contest, sir. so tonight, today, or whenever you're watching this, i am launching my own jeb bush on the stephen colbert late show raffle. the lucky winner will also be invited to the premiere of the late show plus get to submit one nonobscene question i will ask governor bush on their behalf. for example, one question might be, don't you wish you had consulted stephen before launching your contest? >> don't you wish? >> lola oginaki, joins us.
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i want to play bush's response to colbert's response. take a look. >> okay. >> hey, stephen, i'm at the philadelphia airport. i thought the host was amy schumer. i totally blew it. since it's you we're lowering our contest fee to $1. i'll enter yours with a donation to the yellow ribbon fund. >> oh, no. >> is that too little too late to salvage the situation for jeb bush? >> you know, jeb bush has to reinvent himself as a person with a personality. the problem is that trump has dubbed him low energy and is stuck. people believe that. in a way, i think he has played this right. he has shown he is able to poke fun at himself, knows who amy schumer is. he would probably despise everything she jokes about and
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she would despise everything he stands for. that doesn't matter. it's a way to prove that he's not the robotic board. last week i said he looks like he's being marched to the guillotine. >> if you're the butt of somebody else's joke i don't know that that shows so much personality. >> it does show that you can take a joke. >> just like marco rubio can take it with the whole drinking thing. >> yes. >> ultimately, jeb needs to realize he keeps makes these mistakes. this is a rookie mistake. >> i don't think it's a mistake f you ran it by stephen colbert's people, they would have said no. >> well, there is that. >> it's not a mistake at all. the point is to not run it by them, do it anyway, hope it gets buzz, hope people, like all of us esteemed folks are talking
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about it. so it worked. >> it's good for both of them, jazzes up everybody. i'm excited about the colbert debut this week. i just saw the marquise coming here. jeb bush, sometimes the tortoise gets to the finish line. everyone is naysaying him f he could get his schtick into the self depracating humor thing to get back to the locker room maybe. >> that's a slow tortoise. >> let's put up the jeb bush numbers we've been talking about the last segment. and i mentioned, where is jeb? >> where is he? >> where is waldo polling? >> oh, he's third w my glasses it looked like lindsey graham. so sorry. right there at 6%. >> oh, there he is. >> this situation that he has going on there with stephen
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colbert can a late-night appearance help him? >> yes, absolutely. >> how can it help him if we're talking about a guy who is either low energy or looks like he's being marched to the guillotine every time -- >> because if he shows up there with a winning personality and all of a sudden he reinvents himself as jeb 2.0, if he plays the saxophone, like bill clinton did, that was a game changer for h him. if he shows up and is as boring as he has been on the campaign trail i think it will be a nail in the coffin. if he shows up and has reinvented himself, it could be a win, real win. >> it looks like you've warned him. >> bring your a game, honey. >> people think that jeb bush is also weak. he needs to learn how to come back stronger from these things. >> you hear that, jeb busch? thank you, lola, with the rise
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this is the fourth day that a kentucky county clerk will spend a day in jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. kim davis supporters held a rally outside the jail and prayed for her and mike huckabee announced plans to meet with davis on tuesday. sarah dollop is live in graceville, kentucky. >> reporter: hi, jonathan. relatively quiet morning here outside the county detention center where kim davis is waking up to her third morning in jail, sharp contrast to yesterday morning when hundreds gathered
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on the lawn in support of davis, chanting her name and offering prayers for her release. her husband will be visiting her in jail later today. he has been able to speak with her on the phone and says she's doing well, has been reading her bible to pass the time. she's expecting an even more high-profiled visitor, mike huckabee, the gop presidential hopeful, will be stopping by to visit her in person in the jail on tuesday as well as hold a rally in her support. all of this comes days after davis' deputy clerks began issuing marriage licenses. they have 30 days to get married. i spoke with one of the couples yesterday who said they're planning a relatively low-key affair, party with a few friends and family. low key affair, especially after such a high-profile fight to obtain that marriage license, jonathan. back to you. >> sarah dallof in grayson, kentucky.
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to document climate change. later that day he became the first sitting president ever to visit the arctic circle. he appeared to have a wonderful time while performing a native alaskan dance with school children. first instagramer in chief, joking on twitter, check out my new competition on this alaska trip. it's the latest in a string of historic firsts for the president in recent months. this summer he became the first sitting president to visit kenya and ethiopia as well as the first to visit a federal prison. what do all these presidential firsts mean for his last year and a half in office? does it mean, hey, i don't have to run for election again? i'm going to have fun in my last remaining years. >> he has a year and a half to go, jonathan. he probably has a bucket list. you know, he released his -- >> we know he has a bucket list. from the correspondents' dinner. go on. >> i think that's what this is.
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everything he is doing, it's always connected to policy. he uses instagram, selfie stick. let's also talk about global warming. he will find a way to do all these fun things that will -- >> for our viewers who don't know there's an architectural competition that was launched a few days ago for the obama library. and the first submissions are due september 16th. so they are thinking, obama and his advisers, of a post presidency, which will include a chapter to be continued on climate change. you know, that selfie stick will probably end up being an exhibit some place. you're looking at very definite things coming out now. put it this way in the file folder of things that will be unfinished even in a year and a half. and that's the beginning of the next chapter is what you're seeing as well as what he's trying to get done while he is in office. >> personally, i would welcome
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the president's taking some really significant steps toward making his legacy one. he is historic in so many ways. i've got to say he is the greatest dead pan humor since calvin coolidge. >> drier than the dryest martini. >> incredibly funny guy. the problem is that right now the president is leaving a legacy of despair that he can correct by -- >> nan, really. >> well, i would contend to you that with the best of intentions, but the president has instituted policies that empower those who are connected, who are powerful. the health insurance costs in this country -- >> instituted policies that help the country out of the deepest economic crisis. >> yeah. >> the unemployment that came out this friday was? >> yeah, 5.1%. >> people who have health care -- affordable care act. >> despair?
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>> those are great intentions but the actual employment rate of the labor force participation rate is the low northwest 38 years. >> no, no, no. >> that's a fact. that's a fact. >> i've heard this. why don't we stick to what we're talking about, which is legacy? >> but this is his legacy. >> actually, no. that's just incorrect. >> i say it with respect to -- >> you said it once and i think there's a meaty response to that that could eat up all the time of this show. >> which we do not have. >> right. >> that's why we're here. >> frankly, i think -- i just think that when you use a word it's like a taunt. and if you want to have a meaty policy discussion, we could do that. but i think for the moment we have a meaty subject in front of us, a legacy, whether you like it or not he is doing things -- >> i think there's a beautiful example here of -- this was at one point prejorative and now
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maybe it inspires him. it used to be obama is jimmy carter. a lot of people are realizing what an amazing post presidency jimmy carter had. that's the other thing that president obama is setting up. he's saying i'm going to talk about climate change, minority youth. he's laying out this great post presidency. >> there's no question he wants to do these thing. >> and he will. i mean, the thing we have to remember is that when he is no longer president at noon january 20th, 2017, he will be -- >> young. >> -- 55 years old. so we have a young -- we will have a young former president who will have, knock on wood, decades more time to work on the issues that he cares about as a private citizen without having to deal with the recalcitrant congress. >> people may find interesting, he is using a professional management consultant from mckenzie and company to put together a brain trust, consulting with his foundation to help him and mrs. obama plan
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the post presidency. >> but he's got 18 -- not quite 18 months anymore. 14 months to really make it count. he needs to empower working people and middle class family. >> and he has. that's what he has done policy wise by all accounts. we will have our 20 years to go back and say whether barack obama was a great guy or bad guy. >> that's not his intentions. it's the results of the actions. >> the democratic party's ronald reagan. >> and we're headed for a fiscal collapse. >> you went out on the limb to call him the democratic ronald reagan. actually, i am with you on that. it's interesting he's in alaska, trying to highlight climate change. and if people sort of forget one of the big legacies he will have will be on the issue of climate change. >> yeah. >> because i remember in the first term, probably in the first year, realizing that congress was not going to do anything, he empowered the epa,
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he did all sorts of things, raised the fuel -- >> mileage. >> fuel standards. now we've got highly fuel efficient cars out there and seeing all sorts of things on the climate change front that a lot of people don't know, pressure but he will. >> having voted on his policies is, let's not forget, we now have republican majority in the house and the senate, another public comment on the way in which the president has approached these things. not his intentions, but his approach. >> and we have a republican controlled house and senate where both leaders, speaker boehner and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell are now doing battle with far right members of congress who don't really want to do anything. >> congress needs to be far more effective, no question. >> the popularity of congress is way below the popularity of the president. way below.
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>> and congress deserves to be unpopular. congress deserves it. the point is -- >> here is the.. let me ask you this. your party has in it people who deny climate change. how do you explain that? >> i'm not -- i'm a scientist myself, lynn. i'm a doctor. >> how do you explain that? >> i certainly believe in trusting the evidence. >> do you believe in climate change? >> yes, i do. the question is, how do we attribute it, how do we combat it effectively? i would submit to you that one of the best ways is by empowering this greatest democracy in the world to let its people work, thrive and prosper. right now government is too powerful. >> and i look forward to carly fiorina stating her belief in the next debate. do you like the passaaadd? it's a good looking car. this is the model rear end event. the model year end sales event. it's year end! it's the rear end event. year end, rear end, check it out.
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pump. time honored tradition for pundits to predict elections based on gas prices. there's a good reason for it. folks at moody's have updated their prediction for a democratic landslide in 2016. the reason they gave? low gas prices. and their prediction appears to be backed backup by history. before the 2012 election, statistician crunched the numbers. higher gas prices mean a poorer performance for the incumbent party. so will low gas prices lead democrats to hold on to the white house in 2016 or is this an oversimplification of
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electoral process? chief economic correspondent for politico, ben white. thanks for coming in, ben. >> thank you, jonathan. >> are gas pries the make or break issue of 2016? >> they are not the make or break issue. they do make a difference. nationwide we're seeing very low gas prices. that's a $1 billion stimulus for the american people just over this weekend, putting $1 billion more in people's pockets to spend. for the year it's something like $100 billion. it should translate into higher consumer spending, faster moving economy. it hasn't done that yet. part of the reason for that is people are saving the money that they're not spending on gas. it would help democrats more and probably will help them later this year into next year when those gas savings start turning into spending and faster growth and more jobs. it will help democrats if they stay low. no, it's not going to decide the election. it makes people feel better, which helps the economy. >> sure.
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>> let me play a short trip from well when president obama was running for re-election. >> from a political perspective do you think the president in a re-election wants gas prices to go up higher? >> no. >> right. even though it's not the make or break issue of the 2016 campaign or any campaign, presidents are still aware of gas prices. >> it's one of the things that voters notice the most. you drive by it every day. you fill up your car to go to work, to go on vacation. it's a very clear indicator of people's kind of quality of life. the money they had to spend. they do not like seeing gas prices sky rocket. ask jimmy carter or anybody else when gas prices are sky rocketing. it adds to the overall economic picture. if it's low and people are spending more and the economy is moving faster, as moody's shows, that leads to favorable environment for democrats. people don't feel great about the economy right now. will gas pries help some? it should over the median to
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long term. >> what do they vote on, on a gut level? >> the direction of the economy. that's my area, economic behavior and how people decide. there are social issues and other stuff that goes into t if you're middle of the road, undecided, can't decide if you like the democratic nominee or the republican, whoever it turns out to be, you may think are my friends getting jobs? is stuff not costing me as much? am i able to fill up my tank and take a vacation? if you start to feel better about it, you're less likely to throw the incumbent party out of the white house. that said it's always hold for the incumbent party to hold the white house for three terms in a row. >> right. >> it's certainly helpful to the incumbent if gas is cheap and hillary clinton or whoever gets the nomination would like to see this trend continue. >> jason you've been nodding your head throughout ben's -- >> what's the cutoff point? when does it last matter about
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how people feel about the economy for the 2016 election? >> right. it matters september, october. the numbers we see, how people feel at that point. so, you know, people will look at the jobs numbers, unemployment rate. they don't necessarily look at those macro numbers. it's all very personal how they feel and if their friends are getting jobs, he feel like they're getting raises. that's the other thing we didn't talk about. you saw a little bit of an increase in the rate of wage gains better than the .2% we've been doing. people are getting raises in september, october, then they'll feel good and that's really helpful to the democrats. it's a month or two out and it's all about the trend. if the trend is higher wages, lower unemployment, that's good for democrats. the absolute numbers don't matter as much. >> ben, in terms of wage gains, you're going to hear democrats talking about this, republicans talking about this. what, if anything, can a
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president do to increase wages? i know it's a basic economic question but i'm basic like that. >> it's hard. there's no magic lever that they can push. obviously, you've seen president obama talk about raising the minimum wage. you've talked about him trying to increase education for, you know, community college and getting more people the skills they need for the jobs that exist right now. it's limited, obviously, by his ability to get anything through a republican congress. there's obviously a lot of gridlock there. that's not a whole lot right now. even more broadly, the president does not have a magic bullet to increase wages. it really depends on the direction of the economy and the amount of tightness in the labor force. and i think what we're seeing now is, as i think an earlier guest mention the labor force has shrunk. some of that is baby boom retirements not all because people are discouraged. as it gets tighter and we're 5.1% unemployment, possibly 5%, that will put pressure on wages
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and they'll start going up and we could see that in the coming months not a result of anything that washington does, natural economic cycle. everything is pointing toward wages moving in slowly in the right direction. that trend should continue through 2016. that's good for democrats. >> on the economic piece, from your lips to god's ears for a lot of people out there. thanks to ben white from politico. up next, think your student athletes have what it takes to go pro? you may want to think again. verizon now has one simple plan. just pick a size. small, medium, large and extra large. if you need less data, pick small. if you need more, go with extra large-- a whopping 12 gigs for $80 a month plus $20 per phone. pick a size. change it up anytime. it's the simple way to get the best network. and now, get $300 when you switch. only at verizon. want bladder leak underwear that try always discreet underwear
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connection with of less than $50,000 a year, the number is 39%. how likely is it that your kid who is on the basketball team or the softball team or the soccer team or the tennis team really is going to go pro? >> it is about as likely as a winning lottery ticket, which means you could keep hope alive, as reverend jackson would say. but you can't count on it. >> it depends on the sport, to be perfectly honest with you. football, no. football, as dangerous as it's become, it's not likely you're going to make a living. basketball and soccer are kind of dangerous because you have global markets. you can play basketball in africa, you can play soccer in europe. >> let your kids be kids. i know from experience, if they love it, great, then encourage them. but don't try to push them to be professionals. >> one of the things to worry about, i heard you guys talking about this during the break last hour, there are injuries. >> in a case in louisiana, a 16-year-old lost his life this week on a punt return in
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louisiana. you had another young man in texas who is paralyzed from the neck down in texas this week. these are major concerns. this is something i think any parent would be concerned about putting their child in different kinds of sports. it's not going to happen in basketball, but football, it's getting dangerous. >> this is from the department of tone deafness. "new york times," at ah sha w--a rur uschwitz, a summer precaution is a grim reminder to some. some of the showers were made to look like world war ii. >> take it down. if anybody complains, it's insensitivity and it's indefensible. sometimes if somebody says they're offended just sarah
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we' -- say we're going to take it down. >> this is auschwitz. we know what went on there. pass around cold bottles of water. >> we're going to put bracelets on everybody so you stay together walking down the hallway. i wouldn't like that, either. if this is a museum to teach people about sensitivity and history and what happened, that should always be taken into consideration. >> i think the late whitney houston would have something to say, which i would not say, but it begins with hell. the next piece, politico, senator ben cardin says he's a no on the iran deal. >> now that you know there are enough votes in the senate to sustain the presidential veto, it's not. he was under heavy pressure back home from a variety of pro forces. the news out this morning on that in the house, so we know it's going to play out, but
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debbie wasserman schultz who is from florida, she announced this morning that she is going to support the pac. so there has been a kerfluffle, because there was a question if the woman who leads the committee would be for the president. now she won't be. there will be a flood coming into the white house this week. >> thanks very much to today's panel. thank you for getting up with us today. up next is melissa harris p-per. stay tuned. we'll see you next week. have a great week.
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are we fimnally ready to learn the real history of the black panther party? plus, backlash to black lives matter. and a horrible, no-good pre-season for roger goodell. plus, the future means never having to say "you're hired." good morning, i'm melissa harris perry, and today many of you are likely enjoying all the reasons we've come to look forward to labor day. you know, discount shopping, barbecues, three-day weekend. but for more than a century of the observance of the holiday created by the labor movement, it's also hard to remember the hard-won rights we've come to enjoy in the marketplace, such as sick leave and a 40-hour work week. all things we've begun to take for granted between employer and
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