it. that does it for us this hour. a jury is recommending the death penalty for a man who shot i'm richard lui. thanks for watching. three people last year. "hardball" starts right now. he was found guilty of murder in >> the battle has arrived. it's biden versus hillary. the shootings last week. let's play "hardball." baltimore and the family of freddie gray reached a proposed settlement in connection with the man's death. he suffered a severed spine while in police custody and died a week later. now back to "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. he looks like a candidate out battle royale over faith and there in pittsburgh yesterday running back and forth across progressive politics has hit the the parade route shaking hands, front pages today. pope francis is making friends smiling, kissing babies, being on the left and some enemies on joe biden. the right and he's headed for nobody loves the crowd more. and all of a sudden the crowds washington. as "the washington post" are starting to love joe back. reports, conservative dissent is we've got a new national poll brewing inside the vatic an right now. showing him passing bernie the changes left the hierarchy sanders now. and now the number one more polarized than any point challenger to hillary clinton. and she knows it. since the great reformers of the michael steele was chairman of 1960s. the republican party. the pope's leading something of he's now an msnbc political a liberal crusade. you might also call it a crusade analyst. amy walters and radio talk of compassion. this is what he said about show's ron reagan is an msnbc homosexuals, about gay people, who am i to judge?

political analyst. on climate change, our home is being ruined by human activity. hillary clinton's campaign has been seen trying to muscle vice our home being the earth. president joe biden out of the his directed priests to offer an democratic race before he gets in. she'sing appealing to gender sole ugs to women who had loyalty with fierce speeches abortions and called for softer about women's reproductive immigration policies. rights and headlined a big new when he comes to the u.s. he'll hampshire for hillary rally in address a joint session of the that crucial first primary state u.s. congress. where she was officially the roundtable tonight, michelle endorsed by jeanne shaheen. bernard, paul singer and ruth hillary's campaign is also touting their support among party insiders including most markus. i want to start with you, especially superdelegates. michelle. you're closest, i think. bloomberg reports senior clinton what are you episcopalian. campaign officials are claiming that hillary clinton has already >> catholic light. secured one-fifth of the pledges >> that's fair enough. needed to win the democratic my father was episcopalian presidential nomination. before he found the light. well, they're also, the clinton let me ask you about the people, trying to calm down american reaction to this pope. nervous democratic donors. i look at him -- it's not going the associated press reports donors who have publicly to be doctrinal changes. expressed support for a biden but what he's doing -- i am a run have been contacted by the clinton team, according to catholic all my life. i am a catholic. donors and democratic i'll forever be one. what he's saying it's the sin, strategists, even clinton herself has made a few calls. not the sinner. they said, to express her it gets back to that we're going disappointment with those jumping ship, i suppose. to forgive, even mortal sin.

a woman who has had an abortion and finally "the new york times" reported that the clinton campaign is pursuing a southern is many ways a tragedy for her. strategy and looking to the she had to make a decision. south as a firewall to lock up and after she made it, she the nomination in case she loses decided that wasn't what she contests up there in iowa and felt good about or whatever, new hampshire to sanders. that there would be a way to in interviews advisers said the come home. you go to confession and no more campaign pass increasingly devoting staff members and money to win the primary while laying excommunication. i think that's a wonderful the groundwork to sweep alabama, embrace of so many catholics. >> absolutely. >> to come back to the church. arkansas, georgia, oklahoma, tennessee, texas and virginia on >> absolutely. march 1st. i love this pope, for one. that's ambitious. they point to her popularity >> as do millions of people. with black and hispanic voters >> as an episcopalian. down south as well as her policy for people who are gay, for stances and the relationship that she and bill clinton have women -- >> that's not a decision. you are gay. cultivated. for weeks now, months, we've >> for a woman, you're either watched bernie as number one born male or female. for people who feel excluded by opponent. he's got new hampshire pretty much in the bag for a while, the catholic church or even take he's threatening in iowa. it outside of the realm of the a new national poll shows something's going on with biden. church, have felt excluded in is he just picking up the loose our culture in any way, this pope is talking about what it pieces from clinton -- ship really is to be -- clinton? whenever there's a bad story

about e-mail, does he get another ten points? >> no religious test here. what's going on here? >> joe biden and hillary clinton why would the right wing not like the guy? i have a theological theory. have the exact same favorable they don't like it because they like the fire and brimstone. ratings among democrats. they like the terror of sin. it's saying i like both of these if you commit a sin that's so candidates. horrible and you are now an sure, give me a choice right now. >> for president. not liking them. outcast. therefore you'll be lest likely not who they're going to have dinner with that night. to become an outcast, which i >> she's not losing votes as think is crazy. much as he's gaining them. i don't think it works that way. >> i'm a reporter who covers >> why is he gaining them? politics. >> i think they like that i'd like to see more politics where we believe it is the sin there's another option out there. when i talk to democratic not the sinner, where we can voters, their big u.s. disagree with each other on a frustration is the lack of policy issue and not think that enthusiasm on the part of hillary clinton. they want the see an engagement. you are bad for america and you they see a lot going on in the probably beat your dog when you go home. republican side, and they want >> how about dick cheney? to feel like their vote matters, you have some exceptions here? too. and she has to earn it from them. >> there's something there. >> even dick cheney can go to first of all, i'm baffled by some of the so-called issues confession. these days. but it's the language of let us benghazi. i don't care if you trumpet it love each other and disagree with our ideas, not with our on 50 different musical humanity. >> i think on the question of instruments, i don't know what benghazi means. compassion and i think that e-mail seems to me a decision she made out of privacy that's -- religion has a role in

ordering society. you know, keeping marriages concerns. okay, she's a private person. is that a mortal sin? together. i'm not sure. parents look out for the kids. i doubt it. all these values by the ten when people say they're against commandments are human values. hillary before e-mail, i go you that's why i don't have a problem with them appearing in a government building. were for her before e-mail? because they're really human make a lack of pizzazz in her values. >> the pope is arriving in the campaign. maybe that's it. a reason for running. united states an absolutely joe biden's picking up speed. >> if joe biden is gaining interesting political moment. this is a pope whose politics, votes, he's taking them from if you will, are much more in someone, right? and that's hillary clinton. line with those of american or maybe even bernie sanders but catholics than his predecessors, most likely hillary clinton. which actually helps to explain a little bit, i think, why the and there's a reason for that. it goes to what amy said. there's a sameness about her conservatives, political campaign that hearkens back to conservatives might not be so happy about his arrival. many of the things he's 2008. she's basically running the same stressing, the tolerance, issues playbook and getting the same result. she's in the same position of global warming, issues of looking over her shoulder at her opening up immigration are not opponents who are gaining ground on her when she's the in line -- well, not gay marriage, but things where he's presumptive heir apparent. >> isn't that like every really been very clear we must be welcoming towards immigrants, candidate who has ran twice, except reagan. >> reagan changed it. they're not republican party or

conservative dogma. and there's enthusiasm. and that's going to create some >> what do you make of this potentially uncomfortable biden boomlet. moments for republicans as he it shows him going up to 22%. speaks to congress. >> the wild thing is, which is he was at 12 recently. very secular, it's the first hillary clinton is going down 10 time he's ever been here. he probably thinks like a lot of points down to 42 from 52 which is a majority. people from the east or the south that we're much more of a something's astir here. i don't know whether it's capitalist country than we are. permanent, a trend or just a there's a good social welfare burp. what do you make of it? system in this country. >> i make of it that people are very nervous about hillary it's surprisingly present. clinton. she doesn't seem to be able to social security and medicare and shake this e-mail scandal, and i medicaid. put that in quotes. he'll be happy to hear there's a like you i'm not sure this is lot of effort in this country. much of a scandal. it isn't all me first. it may raise questions about how it's not that bad, your computer servers ought to be used for public officials. holiness. the roundtable is staying but i don't see her having done with us. how will europe cope with the anything illegal or really even influx of hundreds of thousands of migrants of refugees from the wrong there. but nevertheless, the media narrative around hillary clinton middle east? look at these pictures. is always paired with scandal. so she's got that sort of headwind here. joe biden i think perceives that. there are people who are nervous about her being able to close the deal. and so they look for another -- >> look at joe.

>> -- another establishment candidate. >> we have an advantage. watching biden do what he did. i was standing out there with al everyone loves the picture i posted of you. roker at the last inaugural break. and he does this. he just loves contact. he loves the physical connection at&t reminds you it can wait. with regular people. i don't think it's even ideological or political. >> no, it's not. >> he wants to physically hold i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. because it gives me... people. zero heartburn! >> in many ways he's the opposite of clinton in that way. prilosec otc. >> i think so. >> her people are now talking the number 1 doctor-recommended frequent heartburn medicine about how we're going to show for 9 straight years. one pill each morning. you more of her heart. she's going to loosen up now. 24 hours. zero heartburn. if you got to have assistants telling you that that's what the so you don't have to stop., candidate is going to do, they tylenol® 8hr arthritis pain obviously have a hard time doing has two layers of pain relief. that. joe biden does not. the first is fast. you're right. he's a natural at this. the second lasts all day. >> he would serve as president we give you your day back. what you do with it is up to you. so he could run for office. tylenol®. she'll run so she can be president. >> there's a joy level and campaigning that you see every day with him. my mother saw him when she was in south carolina. audible safety beeping he kissed her on the lips.

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and now on the ground on the against the trade bill. how come she's being measured by tarmac. the reports are that everything is okay. that standard and not joe? stay with us here on msnbc for more news. >> because he loves joe. >> joe's standard with the unions is baked in. >> even though he's with the ♪ trade deal? >> look, they forgive -- just i built my business with passion. like trump and republicans. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. >> what did hillary ever do wrong? >> i'm just saying, he's that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. bringing something. he has a history that they respect. they understand him. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on he's one of them. >> how come hillary ain't? everything i buy for my studio. >> because she's not one of ♪ them. >> i don't know that we've and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands lost -- i don't know that she's lost labor. >> i don't think she's lost them of dollars each year going back into my business... but clearly -- >> explain why labor's being cute with biden. that's huge for my bottom line. head of the labor union walking along chuckling with him. what's in your wallet? >> why not? more pressure on hillary clinton to do what they would like to see her do. >> where is she on the trade bill? >> we don't know. can a a subconscious. mind? >> you want to answer that a knack for predicting the future. question about a double standard. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. is there a double standard? there often is, but is there one here where hillary is being can a business have a spirit? judged harshly by the head of can a business have a soul? the labor association, the

can a business be...alive? afl-cio and biden is not suffering through that kind of little test? so, i tried depend last weekend. >> mm. >> is there a double standard? it really made the difference >> there can be in a way. between a morning around the house as michael was saying, the labor and getting a little exercise. support for biden is baked in. and they understand, i think, that this is a loyal vice and i tried a baking class. president supporting his president's trade bill. hillary clinton, on the other hand, you don't quite know where one weekend can make all the difference. she is. you know, is she going to only depend underwear support it or not? has new confidence core technology for fast absorption so there's a big question mark there. and the smooth, comfortable fit >> you just defined terms, but what's the answer? of fit-flex™ protection. are they being fair to her? take your weekend on >> probably not. with a coupon at depend.com but who said politics is fair? >> here we are, a candidate who said it is not unfair. the head of the largest labor union on "meet the press" afl-cio president richard trumka talking about what kind of support hillary clinton might expect from his union. >> here's the difference.

if she doesn't take a position on ttp, then you can say she's looking for our vote. if she does take a position on tpp, then she's looking for our support. and the difference is if you get my vote, i come out on election day and i pull the lever. if you got my support, i get up at 7:00 in the morning, i stuff 200 envelope, i make seven calls, i go knock on a few doors and i get my neighbor all excited about voting for her as well. that's what's at stake for her. >> you know what's going on, everybody is pulling her chain we're back with a round table. because they think she's a i'm surprised this great moral little vulnerable. >> of course. >> is biden going to make the issue, political and social economic crisis in europe right move? now. i mean, i don't want to make it hundreds of thousands of too tough on you guys because i refugees have poured into europe this year. don't know the answer. they come from war torn will he get closer to running? countries in the middle east. >> i think he wants to get many of them from syria. closer to running. 4 million syrians have fled the >> november he says now. country since 2011 alone. >> amy, that's part of your job yesterday, a spokesman of the security council said the white you have to predict things. house was looking at options to >> but in this case more of a allow more refugees to come psychiatrist trying to predict here. today, germany just announced something than a political plans to take up to 500,000 of

them annually. analyst. >> you don't want him to run? >> do i, though? there's this part of me that angela merkel says, quote, this wants him to run, then he knows is a test that will decide our what it is to run and does he european values, the entire world is watching us. that's a big question for us tonight. have the stamina. can these millions of refugees and migrants, if you will, adapt >> people who run for president tend to keep running until they win it. to european values. what do you think of this guy, ruth, this isn't just a question joe biden? of bringing people in, it's >> are you asking me? letting them become europeans and hoping they will. >> yeah. >> well, it's a really >> i think biden's going to do it, but you know we just don't complicated question, and it's an issue that europe has been know. struggling with for some time he's had personal tragedies in his life, as we know, just now even before this latest influx. look at what has happened in recently. there may be an emotional component here that's something beyond what we can predict. france with muslims. well, with the alienation of i would say that he's going to go for it. >> i think he's about ten minutes away from running, any many people in muslim society. moment now. he really wants to run. he may put it off but he wants >> so you can't wear head covers -- >> yeah. to run badly. he things he can win because he and all of that. so now, you have -- thinks this is his chance in >> what's your answer? history and he thinks hillary is it doable? will falter. what can they -- he's not a big fan of the clintons. >> my answer is, it doesn't he thinks this is his chance and matter if it's doable or not, it's never coming again. michael steele, thank you. because it's necessary for europe. three of us agree, amy doesn't. it's necessary for other countries. >> what do you do? i think i got it right. >> it's necessary for the united

states. >> i agree. >> to try to -- although you're more quizzical >> and then what? here. ron reagan and i are totally in >> then we're going to have to figure out. >> paul, how do we do it? agreement. he has the votes he needs. >> i just want to -- >> the second step's very a big win for the president and important. a defeat for republicans like >> because we are morally responsible and europe is in dick cheney who wants to tank part morally responsible for this situation. the deal. >> it's easier for the americans still, donald trump and ben to do it because we have a carson have over 50% support in the latest iowa polling while jeb bush, marco rubio and scat culture of assimilatiassimilati immigration, larger by population and size. we can absorb more people. wa -- scott walker are stuck in it's easier for us to do it than single digits. the french or germans or italians who have, you know, and two weeks before pope francis makes his first trip to these cultures. america, there's a culture war >> how do you do it without the politics in the middle east? growing inside the vatican how do you bring them in without between his liberal supporters the politics? >> you can't. who hail him as a revolutionary >> i'm going to kill somebody and strict conservatives who are who -- i have a right to do that. resisting the changes he's brought to the church. >> are we going to politically let's talk about how test everybody? >> i don't know. i can put miss hands out, too, conservatives in this country are reacting to that fight. got to make a decision up front. let me finish with the >> i don't think you can. i agree with ruth. iranian nuclear deal. we have a moral obligation to take in as many people as possible. however, there's some serious

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staying up at night thinking well-based concerns for the about it. tell us -- take a minute or so. state of israel were born in the country in the very aftermath of take us through your own battle the holocaust. with this decision. i spent the last week reading the brilliant "1944" with the >> there were very strong and compelling arguments on both sides. and friends and supporters on unforgettable accounts of went both sides, it has been a deeply on in auschwitz. the lack of remorse in the way difficult decision. but at the end of the day, i europeans killed jewish people by the millions. having to think of a present day decided that supporting this agreement was the best path to iran, present day israel, present day america and the preventing a nuclear-armed iran present day world all with the and doing so by peaceful means memory stirring of what happened in the recent century is a hard through diplomacy, not military test. not just a political judgment or force. and one of the key facts for me, policy judgment, but in the as i learn throughout this deepest, most permanent of moral terms. i think and hope i've lived up process was that our allies and to this test to judge the way partners in this negotiation are members voted not on motive, not coming back to the table. which is a mixture all the time, but of consequence. i do believe that we are in a and rejecting this deal means stronger position as a country, that the united states, not as a force for good. iran, would be isolated. iran would be enjoying the if we stand together and back this agreement. results of sanctions being lifted, a huge windfall without and back our president and that's hardball for now. any kind of discipline or united thanks for being with us. action. i want the united states to be

in the lead here through diplomacy. and to be able to stop the "all in with chris hayes" starts now. >> tonight on "all in." funding of terrorism through a crackdown and overwhelming sanctions that we can help to decision 2016 descends on grace lead going forward. in kentucky. >> if somebody needs to go, and that was ultimately very persuasive to me as well as i stayed up those nights that aisle going to go in her place. >> the latest on the spectacle to stop same-sex marriage in kentucky. looking forward i hope through then, colonel lawrence unilateral action or consulting with our allies we can take wilkerson on dick cheney's specific steps to strengthen and downward spiral. >> didn't you leave the administration, leave president obama with a mess? >> well, i don't think of it improve this deal which is far that way. from perfect. >> let me ask you, was there >> plus, what role is the media ever a time during the decision-making, personal playing in hillary clinton's slipping poll numbers. decision-making when you thought you would go the other way? and he's an nfl hall of did you ever get hit with a famer and an american icon. really good argument against this deal? my interview with jim brown on >> iran is not to be trusted. the black lives matter movement that's a good argument against with "all in" starts right now. this deal. there are shortcomings in the inspection verification process. another good argument. and there are also shortcomings in the duration of the agreement. as i spoke to opponents of the agreement, i saw arguments on

the other side and some of them were made with tremendous passion. >> i'll bet. >> and vehemence. but at the end of the day, i became persuaded as a matter of conscience and conviction that supporting the agreement was right for america and right for our allies. >> just happened that over the weekend i was reading an amazing book about world war ii. there's chapters in there about the holocaust which i've never read anything like them before. firsthand account of a survivor of auschwitz and the way in which he saw the german, european, if you will, say the sadistic torture of people. humiliating them right to the end without anyone stepping up and saying no one said no. did that enter into your thinking that there was such a recent history in the human experience that made you wonder do the jewish people have to look out for themselves? >> chris, my dad came to this country in 1935 to escape persecution in germany.

he succeeded in bringing here his immediate family, but i lost family in the holocaust. and that memory is still very much a part of who i am. and i'm very much aware of the need to be resolute and steadfast in support of israel as well as our other allies in the middle east, that they will need military assets, and i'm determined to fight for them in order to maintain their qualitative edge and also for their survival. and so i'm determined to make some good come of this great to strengthen and improve it. >> i hope you're right. i think you are. senator richard blumenthal of connecticut, thank you so much. who decided today to support the agreement. dick cheney continued his attack on the deal during a speech at the american enterprise institute. his talk was interrupted by a protester who called him a war criminal before being forced out of the room.

he gave a classic cheney performance full of fear and threats of mass destruction to this country. >> with the removal of restrictions on iran's ballistic missile program this agreement will give iran the means to launch a nuclear attack on the u.s. that guarantees that in less time than has passed since 9/11, a regime with death to america as a pillar of its national policy will have the ability and the materiel to produce an arsenal of nuclear weapons. charles krauthammer has written that it took nazi germany seven years to kill 6 million jews. it would take a nuclear-armed iran one day. to build a deliverable nuclear weapon is a mercifully difficult enterprise. but when the world wakes up one day to find the news that islamic radicals in tehran have done it, all the pretenses will fall away and new lines of force come into view with all further terms to be worked out under the threat of the first use of the

nuclear weapon since nagasaki. i'm joined by the president of jay street, a pro-israeli group that came out in favor of the deal early on and robert grim. this has been amazingly difficult. you've been right in the front of this fight. cheney is selling cheney, he sells it all the time. >> these arguments were the arguments that were used in the last fiasco that we had in -- >> 200,000 people dead because of that war. blowing up in the middle east. thank you, mr. cheney. >> look what we have today. there's an argument you wouldn't have the whole situation with iran today if you didn't have that decision. >> iraq was the only buffer against iraq or israel. >> it changed the dynamics of the region. >> how about europe. everything he be changed because of that stupid war in iraq. >> listening to those arguments that are now being resurfaced by him and the prime minister of israel and some of the republican party in congress today. and they're trying to sell us the same --

>> what do you think were the worst mistake of people against the deal having made? >> prime minister netanyahu coming here in march to make that speech. >> against this country's government. >> it made it far less of a rational decision about the rational deal and the policy. a huge mistake by opponents of the deal. >> i don't think john boehner's a bad guy. but i think that was a bad decision. >> bad mistake. >> when cheney came into office there were zero centrifuges in iran. when he left there was something like 5,000. >> how does he get away with that? >> it's not clear he totally does. >> don't say it that way. don't say on fox news. that's how they end it with us. they almost did a good job of interrogating him. and pointed out that the real advances made by the nuclear program was under a republican watch. >> he just looks the other way and just keeps repeating talking points. but history will not judge that kindly. i think the fact that he came

out and then you saw this flood of supporters of the deal announce their public support, i think also says something about his credibility. i think obama couldn't have asked for a better spokes to come forward for the other side. >> it seems to me that in politics, the safest votes, as you know, jeremy and you know, ryan, are to vote for something that passes or to vote for something that fails because then you're not personally responsible for what happens, the consequences. what are your responsibilities now? what are the responsibilities of this administration to make sure that iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon? >> the implementation of the deal is absolutely critical. living up to the promise -- >> did you read alan ger show wits today? >> not today. >> they say in preamble language they're not going to have a nuclear weapon. >> this is the president's commitment, right? and not just the 15 years of the deal. this is a commitment that goes beyond the deal.

it's in perpetuity. there are pieces that continue beyond this window. that's the commitment. we have to make sure that the resources are there, the cooperation is there to implement it. >> is this the end of the fight? is it over? >> this particular fight is over. yes. now it's about implementation. a lot of people took courageous votes like senator blumenthal came forward before it was over. >> and ron wyden just now. >> senator cantwell. >> what do you make? >> trying to be conservative. yes, he said publicly, i am leaning yes. he said the opponents haven't made an argument for what could be done if this deal goes down. in other words, he saw that this was something he ought to support or that he wanted to see pass. >> all the signals. >> once it was passed, he said, oh, free vote, i'm voting no. >> when you need 41 to stop the resolution from passing, because it is a no-confidence vote in our president. >> which they have, they have

the 41. >> that's a major victory for the president. jeremy, a great diplomat, a great fighter on this. jeremy ben-ami of j street which you'll be hearing a lot more of in the future. up next, donald trump and ben carson are making the most noise in the republican party. they're getting most of the votes right now. i'll ask haley barbour. before earning enough cash back from bank of america to buy a new gym bag. before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time and 2% back at the grocery store. even before he got 3% back on gas. kenny used his bankamericard cash rewards credit card to join the wednesday night league. because he loves to play hoops. not jump through them. that's the excitement of rewarding connections. apply online or at a bank of america near you.

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i will be totally pledging my allegiance to the republican party and the conservative principles for which it stands, and we will go out and we will fight hard, and we will win. >> guys like a p.o.w. with his fingers crossed. that was donald trump pretending he'll stick with the republican

party. donald trump at least formally committed himself to the party last week renouncing even the prospect of a third-party bid if he doesn't get the nomination himself. trump's rise has been fueled by a wasn't of anti-establishment zeal that's overtaken the le electorate. trump and carson are leading the field. trump at 29, carson at 22, while all their opponents are in single digits. support for trump and dr. carson accounts for more than half of iowan republicans. according to a national poll last week, 73% of republicans, about three-quarters, say they'd prefer an outsider as president to someone with experience in washington. i'm joined by a man who knows what he's talking about, former republican national chairman haley barbour. "america's greatest storm." i want to talk to you about the storm in a minute because it's a

hell of a story of the american people. is the republican party coming apart? your party was formed before the civil war. you had the a boll igsists that really wanted to get rid of slavery, when the whig party. is it breaking off from the old bush party, the establishment party? >> what you're seeing in the republican party, you're also seeing a version in the democratic party, people are unhappy. if you look at the poll, every poll by everybody says more than 60% of americans think the country is going in the wrong direction. by that they're describing washington. if you ask them about their home state, the numbers are radically -- >> why aren't they backing governors. walker and kasich aren't getting numbers. >> because right now it's the anger and trump has done a -- >> anger at what? >> at washington. >> what does that mean? >> the country is going in the wrong direction. >> these are generalities. why is jeb bush getting half of single digits? >> because lots of republicans

are very mad at washington. >> he's not from washington. >> exactly. that's one of the interesting things about it. he is the ultimate washington candidate. but look, chris, people think the country's going in the wrong direction at warp speed. they look at this economy and they're told, oh, the economy's getting better. not getting better in their lives. >> what are the chances of an establishment republican candidate winning the president? i'm talking somebody like jeb bush. can he actually win the nomination after all this anger? >> i think -- >> what about insiders? >> could jeb win? yes. marco rubio? yes. but what is driving the polling today in the summer of 2015 is anger, dissatisfaction, not believing in washington, and look, don't thing bernie sanders isn't part of this, too. >> i'm going to talk about him, too. do you think trump could win the nomination? >> of course he could.

do i think he will. i think it's unlikely, but i do think one thing he did to help himself. he saidly not run for third party -- >> who has a better chance than him to win the nomination. give me a name. >> ben carson. >> has a better chance of being the nominee. you want to take that back? >> no, i don't want to take it back. >> haley barbour says ben carson has a better chance to win the nomination than donald trump? >> you're asking me a question that's silly for me to answer. >> you're an expert. let's talk about something you've written beautifully about. "america's great storm." you were the leader in your state and many parts of the region of the south after katrina. i think you rallied the people. i think the people look pretty darn good in mississippi. there you are in the field, in the rubble. they came back pretty strong along the gulf of mexico. >> the truth is i didn't rally the people. the people rallied themselves.

the thing about katrina that's very undercovered, really not covered at all, is the spirit and the people of mississippi got knocked down flat, bore the brunt of the worst natural disaster in american history, utter obliteration, back up within 24 hours rebuilding their communities. not just helping themselves but helping their neighbors. the outpouring of volunteers, chris, 954,000 volunteers. >> you mentioned that people don't like washington. all right? as an idea. in your book you write about how you butted heads personally with the bush white house and members of your own party in your effort to secure more money in the aftermath of katrina. i was really upset by the lack of support from the white house -- that was the bush white house. when my state was in its greatest hour of need, the president wasn't going to help me. in order to overcome the resistance to doing something that had never been done before, and to overcome the resistance to spending billions of dollars of federal money in the katrina states.

i had to explain what was at stake and why it was the right thing for the federal government to do this. they were resisting you. >> i wrote later in the book it became clear to me that the white house was saying we're not going to endorse this. we don't want to put the president out on this limb. but we think you're going to win without us. we're not going to fight you. i wasn't happy about that answer, but it was sure better than when i first thought are they going to oppose this? they never opposed it. but they made us -- or we were required to win this on our own. it wasn't just me. thad cochran, bill frist was from tennessee, the republican leader. everybody worked together. i tell a story in there about barney frank who i bumped into walking into the capitol and he called me over and said, i hear mississippi's glotot a plan for special hurricane relief. he said send me a copy, i want to write every member of the house and urge them to vote for it, which he did.

>> haley barbour is the best at telling its story. he was a can-do leader when mississippi needed one and the country needed to see one. i wrote that. the name of the book is "america's great storm" a great story of america and how we do come back. thank you, haley barbour. up next, pope francis is coming to america in two weeks. he's leading the catholic church in a more liberal, more tolerant direction, climate change, social issues. how long can social conservatives in this country continue to dig in and fight against the changing tide of history?

what did iran's supreme leader get in the nuclear deal? to start with, $100 billion. they keep their nuclear facilities and ballistic missiles. there won't be surprise anytime-anywhere inspections. and after ten years, restrictions are lifted and iran could build a nuclear weapon in two months. congress should reject a bad deal.

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