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noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to week en"weekends wit wit witt". we begin on the campaign trail. donald trump is a handful of presidential candidates who will attend a major football rivalry game in iowa today. first, he's holding a rally that starts in just about an hour from now. nbc's katy tur is at that venue in boon, iowa. let's talk about the crowd, what's expected and the mood. >> this is a parade. it's the puffer belly celebration. it was a type of train and they have it here after labor day every year. a couple thousand people expected to be here. donald trump will be holding a rally in an hour to talk to his supporters here. this is organized by the chamber of commerce out here in boon. after that, he'll go straight to a tailgate party for the iowa versus iowa state game. he'll be joined by marco rubio, scott walker and rand paul. it's a big game, the super bowl
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about 55,000 people will be expected there. it's a rite of passage for candidates to come in here and to make their presence known. it will be interesting to see how he reacts or interacts with rand paul. they've tussle add few times in the past. donald trump is way ahead of him in the polls so he might not find a reason to interact with him during this rally this is one of the many events he's attending today. he's very a good week so far coming off last night an appearance on the "tonight show" with jimmy fallon which was pretty well reviewed. take aen >> how are you going to create jobs in this country? >> i'm just going to do it. [ laughter [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> right, right, but how?
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>> by doing it, it just happens. just by doing it. >> it was a double dose of the donnell if you will. supporters rejoice and detractors will shudder. this is leading up to the debate on wednesday and the good money will tell you to watch carly fiorina if anybody will be able to land a blow on him according to republican insiders they believe it is going to be her. after the face comment he is made in "rolling stone" they think she'll be well positioned to strike back and take him off his high pedestal. we'll see how that goes. the debate is on wednesday. >> that interaction very interesting to. what do you know if he's sitting on the iowa or iowa state side and where the other candidates will be? i'm curious how that goes down for the big game. >> i think he'll strad it will line. my bet he'll say they're both great and wonderful and he loves them both and everyone's great and as long as -- whoever likes him more he'll probably like more. >> legitimately i'm saying
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you're great katy tur, thank you so much for that. and then there were 16. the republican field narrows just a tad as texas governor rick perry suspends his campaign. perry struggled to gain ground in the polls and his campaign ran out of money to pay some staffer staffers meanwhile, the newest poll finds hillary clinton with a strong lead over republican front-runners. jeb bush comes the closest, bernie sanders is making a southern swing today wrapping up a speech at benedict college in columbia, south carolina. he struck familiar campaign themes to the college crowd there saying the middle-class is disappearing and railing against income inequality. let's bring in reuters political correspondent erin mcpike. good to see you. thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> how does the loss of rick perry affect the republican slate? there are still 16 declared candidates. >> alex, i think not much because in the latest cnn/orc poll he was at just zero.
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so he doesn't have any support to go anywhere so i don't think he changes the dynamics of the field. what i would watch for is to see if there are other republicans languishing at the bottom of those polls who follow his lead in the coming months. we all thought at the coming of this campaign season funded and all they needed to do was show up at campaign events that can keep him in the race. if they follow his lead because they know they won't get traction, that's where we could see effect happening in the next couple months if we clear out the field a bit. >> donald trump enthusiastically called for a change in election rules. here's what he said about that. >> you're in the lead right now, right? >> yeah, by a lot. [ laughter ] in some countries you can demand that the election be the following week and i'm demanding right now that the election be
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this week or next week. no it's a long way. it's such a long way to go. >> he may wish it however the election will not be held next week. are there any signs the republican voters are growing tired at all of the trump style? >> i don't think so particularly because we are seeing him go up in the polls. the thing to watch for is how his poll numbers shift with ben carson's surge. donald trump is still number one and ben carson is still number two and it's really that voters in iowa and new hampshire are liking these outsider candidates but ben carson could poll his support. i'm not sure that's going to be the case. it seems donald trump supporters like his style whereas ben carson's supporters like his soft spoken style. i don't think we're seeing anybody tire of donald trump just yet. they like what they're seeing. >> okay. let's look to the democratic side here. you saw the new polls that show bernie sanders ahead of hillary clinton in the key states of
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iowa and new hampshire. we are still nearly six months away from these votes. is hillary clinton the one who is likely to be the favorite when voters go to those t polls for those states for real? >> oh, absolutely and she has a huge very strong organization. they're also setting up this firewall in the south when the primaries head there after the first few states but part of what we're seeing in the polls right now is -- it's a message. and at the end of the day voters might come home to hillary clinton and they don't like the campaign she's been running and i think they're trying to send that message. there is a cautionary note in their just a little bit. that is we saw earlier today in england that the socialist candidate won in the labor party so there might be a movement on the left afoot but for the most part i think this is a protest message against hillary clinton and they want her to get her campaign in order. >> okay. let's talk about joe biden here who, of course, appeared on stephen colbert's show on thursday.
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listen to part of that. >> i don't think any man or woman should run for president unless, number one, they know exactly why they would want to be president and, two, they can look at folks out there and say i promise you you have my whole heart, my whole soul, my energy and my passion to do this and i'd be lying if i said that i knew i was there. it's a -- >> to you, does he sound like a candidate or non-candidate? >> it's hard to say because in some of his other events he has sounded like a candidate. now in answers to those two questions he asked, i think he has answered for himself why he wants to be president. he's answered it twice. now as vice president of the united states of america he has certainly qualified and prepared to be president on day one. there's no question about that.
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but we know he is struggling with beau biden's death and doesn't have the heart for it now. i think he's trying to buy himself more time and this could be contingent on hillary clinton does in october when she has to testify on capitol hill on her e-mails on benghazi and talk and answer some of these questions and if she continues to slide in the polls maybe that could change the calculus but i think he's saying he is not ready and needs more time to think about it. >> okay, erin mcpike, thank you so much for giving us stuff to think about. appreciate it. developing now, a potential break in the investigation of random shootings ratting the phoenix area. a person taken into custody in connection with the dozen or so shootings, most of which have taken place along a freeway. scott cohn is in phoenix the following the story. what are people saying about this person of interest, scott, a wrnd do they stand on this investigation? >> they're sharing very little about this person of interest.
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he was taken into questioning yesterday. not referred to as a suspect, just being questioned. police say both about the shooting investigation as well as other things and ultimately they booked him on an unrelated marijuana possession charge. it's not clear whether they're still talking with him about the freeway shootings, the first of which was almost exactly two weeks ago and it's not entirely clear that police are a whole lot closer to finding out what is going on. what they are saying is that it's increasingly likely there are multiple shooters and they say that because there are three distinct patterns. the majority of these shootings, eight of them, were with guns along interstate 10 as you said, most of them. but there were also shootings with pellet guns and at least one of the incidents of the 11 total shootings involved some sort of a road rage incident so it's not clear exactly how, if at all, all 11 are related but it clearly is something that has the police on edge, has the
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community on edge. we've seen increased police present. there are -- they're looking for the shooter on the ground, from the air and also undercover. alex? >> scott conn thehn by i-10. thank you so much. that apparent takedown of a high school football referee. i'll talk to his lawyer about whether anything transpired before his client was knocked down. ever since darryl's wife started using gain flings, their laundry smells more amazing than ever. (sniff) honey, isn't that the dog's towel? (dog noise) hey, mi towel, su towel.
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the source. hungary also warned as of next week people entering the country illegally will be arrested. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel is along the hungarian serbian border and with a welcome to you, what's the scene like there today? >> well, a lot of work is going on to finish this border fence. the hungarian government is calling for billions of dollars to help it secure its border but the primary effort right now is to finish the last parts of this hundred-mile-long 12-foot-high razor wire-reinforced fence and the government expects that by next week some time the fence should be complete or more or less complete and that it will begin a new stage of dealing with the migrants where migrants who cross illegally into hungary are going to be treated more like criminals not refugees. right now there is a scene of
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chaos. people are still flowing in and out. they are wandering the streets and wondering through the towns in southern hungary. there are many smugglers who come pull up beside them, pick them up off the road and will take $300, $400, $500 a person to drive them to budapest or out of the country. that are is the situation that hungary wants to change and it posed what many think is a draconian policy -- sealing the border and picking up people who come through illegally. >> and to what exstent this migrant flow coming through serbia. can you put a percentage on it? >> well, right now almost all of it is coming through serbia. there is a well-trodden thrill that is being beat by the migrants right now. they come from syria mostly then they go through turkey into greece, they take small rafts, a very dangerous journey, and
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cross to the greek islands. the greek government will then evacuate them from the islands on government-run ferries. then the greek government is allowing the migrants to pass through greece, actually, encouraging them, providing buses and trains and shuttles. then they get to macedonia, the macedonians are doing the same thing, providing services for the migrants to keep them moving. serbia the same situation. they're putting on buses and those buses drop them right at the hungarian border. then they will walk. the migrants walk across into hungary and so far they have walking into a line of hungarian authorities, police who are trying to register them. but what we're expecting next is this fence and a much more -- a much tougher policy from hungary so what i think could happen -- because if you imagine this flow like a river coming up from the south and hungary suddenly puts
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a wall up, we're going to see a dam affect and there could be a large lake of migrants building up in serbia. >> i was going to say. which does what for serbia? clearly it's hungary that's putting on -- putting up this fence but serbia can't handle this flow of migrants. >> if there is this dam and a lake of migrants as created in serbia, there could be some violent incidents at the serbian border, at the hungarian serbian border or people could find a new way. they could decide that maybe there's other routes that they haven't thought of until now, going through albania, croatia, going through italy from greece. there's -- there are other options. where there is a will, there is a way. there's a push/pull dynamic. you have them being pushed out of the war zone in the middle east where they've been -- where the wars have been going on for years now and there is this lure
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of going to wealthy countries in europe. in particular germany. so germany opening its doors welcoming in peek just gives them more hope that there is light at the end of this journey. >> richard, would you same the majority of these migrants are from war torn syria? >> i think the biggest group seems to be from syria there is a lot of sensitivity about that word, migrant versus refugees. the one from syria are in almost all cases refugees. there are many from iraq, many from afghanistan which although not as bad as syria are still war torn failed states: there is a much more problematic group. there are some subsaharan african migrants who are not leaving war zones who are just joining this trail. we've seen people from pakistan, people from bangladesh. i would say right now maybe it's
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70/30 with 70% coming from afghanistan, iraq and syria. jeer the biggest group among them. the other 30% what you'd consider classic economic migrants. people looking for a better life and when they show up at the border quite soon they will be sent back. they will be turned around. >> it is an extraordinary story for which we thank you for helping tell it to us. richard engel, thank you so much. >> absolutely. >> football players from san antonio's john jay high school took to the field for the first time in a week. the game was played as an investigation continued into this incident. it appears referee robert watts may have been deliberately tackled bed by the players. two students have been suspended and players accused of the hit said watts directed racial slurs at them. watts' attorney talked to them about that specific allegation. >> first of all, it's curious to
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me how the attention seems to me immediately flow toward the allegation of inappropriate comments as if that were some sort of excuse for the crimes that were commit t. the focus is we have a gentleman who's been officiating high school and college football for 14 years, he's a business executive. he's officiated approximately 500 games for the texas association of sports officials alone. he did not get where he is today by making inappropriate remarks. his job and the job of all of us in officiating is to penalize any commentary made by anybody directed toward another person that tends to embarrass, ridicule or demean another person and specifically all rulings codes pay attention and give very, very serious weight to any comments that reflect upon a person's race, gender, national or gin or anything of the sort so we're in the business of making the game safe, fair, and fun.
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as such, mr. watts is the reason why and his partners is the reason why any game is safe, fair and fun and part of that is taking appropriate action against anyone who would make remarks like that so those charges are untrue. >> many of those at last night's game said incidents like that do not reflect the character of the community and it's unlikely to happen again. a senior advisor to bernie sanders joins me to talk about the phenomenon of the campaign and how the senator went from a fringe candidate to beating hillary clinton in the polls. many people clean their dentures
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i work on the cheerios team. and when i found out that my daughter-in-law, joyce, can't eat gluten, we found a way to remove the grains that contain gluten, from the naturally gluten free oats that cheerios are made of. so now we can have cheerios together, anytime. welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." >> four of the republican presidential contenders will be in iowa today tailgating before the football game this afternoon. vaughan hilliard is in iowa this afternoon. welcome, vaughan. why does this event attract the candidates? >> good morning. this is the game that infamously four years ago michele bachmann that had an outfit that had part iowa state, part hawkeyes.
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you can't do that. you have to pick a side or go totally neutral. this is a game, iowa/iowa state, happen s earlier in the year yo have the lines coming in, the corn hole, the barbecue, cars piled up down the freeway already. this is the game where they come. you have rand paul, you have marco rubio donald trump and scott walker all here this afternoon. they're all holding their own independent tailgates here throughout the course of the afternoon but for these guys you genuinely have to ask whether it's more about the politics or the football and we may not always say this but i think in this case it's about the football. >> now let's talk about front-runner donald trump is he likely to overshadow the other three and secondly he only likes winners. just ask him. so how is he picking his side? taty tur was telling me she doesn't think he's chosen which side to sit on. do you know? >> can you pick after the game?
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is that an option? [ laughter ] >> that's a safe bet. >> for donald trump the other candidates a that point have to be used to it. today this a saturday, a beautiful fall day. these guys -- it's probably a lot of it is just marco rubio, rand paul and scott walker all big football fans and for them a large part of it is coming out here and enjoying it. you have the football fans of iowa. i think they care more about football than politics whether the donald trump show turns into something else bigger than the football game we'll watch that together. >> well, let us know later. thank you very much, vaughn hillyard. bernie sanders is shaking things up on the democratic side. polls show him beating hillary clinton in two key states, iowa by one point, new hampshire by nine. he's in south carolina where he just wrapped up a town haul on the cam campus of benedict college. >> anyone who tells you they have a magical solution to foreign policy and how we create
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a more peaceful and civilized world is kidding you. nobody has magical answers. bullet me just say this. l. i voted against the war in iraq. >> joining me is tad devine, a senior advisor to the sanders campaign. you worked in al gore in '04, what is it about this campaign? >> well, i think bernie has a powerful message, a message about the inequality of wealth and income in america and it's connecting with people and he's presenting himself in a very authentic way and that's connecting as well so i think it's a combination of message, very strong message and also messenger, who's really in sync with the time and the voters. >> what about the whole anti-establishment concept? i mean, that certainly seems to be bernie sanders on the dem side. are there parallels to be drawn
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thinking well, maybe zrudonald trump is that on the gop? >> i think voters are upset with the gridlock in washington. on the republican side, the solution is to get rid of politicians and support people who have no experience in politics. i think on the democratic side that's not the case. voters are looking for people who can get things done. that's part of the story we intend to tell about bernie sanders. i think it's arguable in the last session of congress his leadership and joining with people like john mccain to pass a bill that revamped the veterans administration. that was probably the most significant legislative achievement in washington in the last session of congress. when people start to understand that bernie sanders is somebody who's had a record of getting things done as mayor, as a congressman, a senator, they'll be impressed. >> let's look at last night. i know bernie sanders attracted a crowd of about 12,000 in atlanta but nothing compared to the tens of thousands. but in light of sanders popularity, the "new york times" public editor posted an article criticizing the paper for not taking bernie sanders more seriously and a "washington
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post" article is citing his grass-roots strategy as being the ticket to the democratic nomination. tad, have you identified what the key is? >> well, i think as i said, a very strong message delivered by a very strong messenger. i think the "new york times" is catching up to the fact that the bernie sanders challenge is a real one. i think we're beginning to see it first in the places where voters are most engaged -- iowa and new hampshire. but we're seeing it elsewhere. there was a national poll that came out yesterday and bernie was within seven points of hillary, they're both in the 30s. so i think voters are looking for a new way forward and i think that's what bernie is offering. >> okay. sanders says he is a socialist. how will his socialist policies manifest within a presidency. >> well, when i first met him i said "you're a socialist." he said "i'm a democratic socialist." and i think that's a reflection of bernie sanders's political philosophy. he's honest about his political philosophy. he's not proposing that the
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united states become a socialist system, what he's proposing is we need to do something about the fact that the middle-class in america is being destroyed by an economy rigged to send the wealth to the top and his solutions to this p like free college tuition to public colleges and universities, like helping people with social security by -- not by cutting it but expanding the benefits, by creating a living wage of $15 an hour. by rebuilding america's infrastructure and createing 13 million jobs by national health insurance, these are the solutions, the real world solutions. they're not just talking points, he's submitted legislation on these proposals. so he wants to deal with the crushing burden on the middle-class by an economic system which is rigged to send the wealth to the top. i think that's woo bhat people focus on, not the labels. >> but that said, i said socialist, you were quick to point out that he corrected you when you used the same terminology say "democratic
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socialist." do you worry? because the term socialist can come with many different meanings. do you worry hillary clinton will use that against him? >> she may and others certainly will and i don't worry and here's why. i agree with bernie sanders. the voters are smart in this country. i don't think a word is going to get in a way of looking and listening to him. i think when they listen to him and his ideas and look at his record and understand the program he wants to implement as president i don't think there's any word or group of words that will get in the way of that conversation. >> can i ask you, though, how did sanders, an independent in the debate, how did he end up on stage with hillary clinton and martin o'malley? well. >> well, when bernie decided to run he thought the best way to get his ideas out and the best way to move his platform forward was to run within the structure of the democratic party. when he filed his application form to declare his candidacy with the federal election commission he filed as a
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candidate, his party affiliation was democratic party. so he made that decision that this isn't a symbolic campaign and i've been telling this to people for months, this is a real campaign. we have a 50-page staff on the ground in iowa. more than 30 on the ground in new hampshire and we're building campaign there is and elsewhere as well. so he understood that the way to get this done, the way to succeed was within the current structure. what he rejects of the current structure however is the structure of super pacs which are polluting our politics. he refuses to engage in the super pac war that's going to be going on with so many campaigns. he refuses the contributions of the billionaires who are trying to buy our political system. instead he's relyingen small grass-root dose nations. and people are stepping forward in tremendous numbers and i think we will have the resources we need to compete against super pac campaigns. >> okay, tad divine, good to talk to you. thanks so much. >> thanks alex. >> i'm joined by political analyst sierra r zerlina maxwel
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essence magazine. what do you think is the difference between candidate clinton and candidate sanders? >> i think bernie sanders has done a great job of coalescing the left flank around his candidacy. one of the things i'm noticing, though, is is that there are certain constituencies in the democratic party that he needs to raise their numbers up. i'm talking about african-americans. he's 10ur7% with african-americ support and care in to obama who had over 80% in 2008. i think we're quick to compare bernie's candidacy to the surging barack obama in 2007 and 2008 but the more apt comparison might be a howard dean of 2004 or a bill bradley of 2000. so i'm looking for him to increase those numbers among certain constituencies in the democratic party, people of color, women, black people, latinos, and until i see that, i'm still not really sure if he can -- he has enough to outpace
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hillary clinton in the long term. >> it's almost as if he heard where where he was speaking earlier today. >> he's in south carolina. he's doing what he needs to do. >> a traditionally historically black college so obviously lngs what-to-what you said in advance. susan, about the "new york times" article, clinton's handlers say she's going show more humor and heart. so who's more to blame for the campaign struggles? is it the candidate or the campaign? >> it always falls incumbent upon the candidate to get the job done if you have a bad campaign team, you fire them. there niece reason to fire this campaign team. these are good people she's brought on board. part of the problem is they don't know how the manage her. you have to allow a candidate to be who they are and you can't say i'm going to script unscripted spontaneous moments and show heart. it just doesn't work that way.
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they have to get her out in the field. everyone says that one on one she's great. put her in crowds. let people get to them. get rid of the rope lines like it's been suggested. don't section her off from people. let her interact. she'll have a very big challenge on their debate in august because people are going to see how scripted. and she's someone who everyone is ready to throw darts at and they're looking for her to mess up. >> but, look, if they know she does that well, she's got to feel like she does that well and everybody says she one on one is phenomenal. >> i think she's very concerned about keeping her private life private, keeping a part of her to herself. >> she's running for president. >> and she's gone through these things through the -- since the '90s and i think she's always found some kind of balance and it's worked for her but you're right. she's running for president this time. we already saw the first time she ran for president she didn't do that well until she was really down in the dumps.
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now i don't think it will be bernie sanders who pushes her this way. if job gets into the race or someone else -- which it's looking like it is possible because her numbers are going down -- that's what will push her to do a major shift. but that falls upon the candidate. >> do you think, zerlina, the democrats are concerned having accepted independent bernie sanders into their circle and putting them up against hillary clinton on the debate stage? >> i think you can distinguish democratic voters and how they feel and the establishment and how they feel. i think if you look at the endorsement numbers, bernie doesn't have any congressional senatorial establishment endorsements where hillary has tons, hundreds and so i think that it comes down who wins out. is it the base of the party or the establishment? and historically it's been who the establishment supports because that person has the infrastructure needed. now that bernie has a ground game and he's growing his ground game, that's something that's very interesting to hear because that mean he is knows that it's
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those field organizers who will go out and get people to caucus in iowa and that's how barack obama won in 2008. >> and people feel they can connect to him. they feel like yeah, he's been in government, in washington for years so it's not that he's an outsider but he calls it the way he sees it and owns up to being a socialist and has no problem saying democratic socialist, whatever. but he has no problems standing behind those ideas. you never see him twisting to explain his positions. >> okay. unlike donald trump, by the way, was on the "tonight show" last night. let's play ha little bit from that. >> look, i'm really rich. [ cheers and applause ] i know how to run a business and i know this -- our country is going to be well off with me, so here's what i'll do. first we have to cuts government spending. it's out of control. totally out of control. >> so he got the laugh there is. do you have any sense of an erosion from within his campaign
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in terms of his popularity? >> not right now. what you do see, though, is the emergence of ben carson and i think it's not so much that people are running to ben carson but chuck todd pointed this out yesterday. he's acting as a place card for a lot of people because they don't want donald trump, they do want that outsider but they just think that donald trump's too bombastic for them. they don't want someone who doesn't have ideas mapped out and just says "we're going to make america great" but doesn't know how to get it done. so i think he may be starting to top out around 30%. but there's a long way to go and i think you'll see others grow in that, especially as candidates start to drop out like rick perry. >> i'm surprised week after week we're still talking about donald trump being in first place and that says something about how he's resonating with the base of the republican party. so i think there are some things that are concerning if you're thinking about a general election. right now we're very entertained by trump. >> right now i think is the operative word. thank you, ladies, good to see
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what a stunning upset. serena willwill williams was approaching the first grand slam when roberta vinci took that away. kristen dalghren is there at the u.s. open. kristen, i don't think anybody expected this. >> i don't think i've ever seen as many stunned people in one place. the experts saying there was no way serena williams were going to lose that match. people with roberta vin chi who were going to lose the match didn't think she was going to lose the match then she stunned everybody including herself. >> she's got it! and extraordinary upset.
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>> reporter: for serena williams, it was the end of a year-long quest. >> italy's roberta vinci ends serena williams grand slam run. >> i don't want to talk about how disappointing it is for me. >> reporter: just two matches away from the rare calendar grand slam -- winning four majors in the same year. what seemed inevitable to the world number one until a little-known italian, roberta vinci, ranked just 43 in the world. >> i'm happy. i don't know. it's tough to explain my emotion right now. >> i thought she played the best tennis in her career. she played literally out of her mind. >> reporter: williams wasn't the only one shocked to see the unseeded player put an end to her 33-match winning streak. >> this is one of the hugest upsets in all of tennis history. roberta vinci had not beaten serena williams in four tries. >> reporter: for williams, it was an exhausting week. she battled her sister venus on tuesday and after that matched a mitted to being tired. >> i have to wake up early to
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practice and you're not making it super enjoyable. >> reporter: williams has always been a fan favorite, the and i rell la story out of the rough streets of compton, california. she's already won the so-called serena slam, four majors in a row, just not in a calendar year, something she pointed out to journalists. >> i did win three grand slams this year so -- yeah and i won four in a row so it's pretty good. >> reporter: on the men's side, the semifinals yielded few surprises. number one seed novak djokovic sailing into a final against roger federer looking for his record 18th major. so still a lot of amazing tennis to come here. >> today's women's final, roberta vinci taking on flavia pin nettie, a fellow italian. neither of them expected to get this far. they were giant killers at the u.s. open taking down number one and number two seeds.
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but for ticket price, not having serena in really hurt. tickets going for $1400 for yesterday's match now selling for less than half of that. >> ouch. okay, thanks, kristen. fighting the ivory trade in africa. a new national geographic expoée that follows fake ivory tusks from the field right to a terrorist organization. i'll talk to the man behind the special investigation next. why do so many people choose aleve?
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across africa, more than 30,000 elephants are killed by poachers each year. in a new cover story and documentary, "national geographic" is following the ivory, tracking the poaching trade from the african bush to terrorist camps to the rising middle-class in asia. >> i hate an unfair fight and there is no fight on this planet that is less fair than the fight endangered species have to survive. illegal ivory is flooding out of africa and into china.
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i want to go after most violent face of this criminal abyss. let's go after those guys. the kingpins of the ivory trade. >> joining me now the the author and subject of the documentary, brian christie, chief correspondent and founder of national geographic special investigations unit. with a big welcome to you, i know this went far beyond the usual investigative report. instead of following the money, you followed the ivory. you created fake tusks, put them on the black market, watched them go right into the hands of the worst terrorists on the continent. give us some background here. >> as you said in the opening, the elephants are under siege across africa. 30,000 elephants every year being killed in just the most brutal ways and taking that problem on struck us year on year as an impossible mission. so let's take a mission impossible approach and we created fake tusks. we couldn't enter the illegal
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ivory trade ourselves so we created tusks that couldened enter the illegal ivory trade. in those tusks we embedded a satellite based gps system. know one's ever tried it before. we thought it would go to asia and instead it went to the most violent area in africa right now. >> and you wrote about some incredibly brave park rangers, they are fighting, they are dying in this battle. what about the governments? >> well, in some of these countries -- we're talking about central africa. in central africa, government is almost non-existent. in the central african republic, in sudan where our tusks end up the president of sudan has be b criminal court for his crimes against humanity with the darfur region. many tu my tusks go to that exact same region. it's basically a terrorist poacher state operating in the
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darfur region. >> lots of similarities as you watch this, similarities to drug trafficking. but as much as you tell people their money is funding violent cartels and terrorist groups in that regard, it doesn't do anything to decrease demand. is ivory different? >> i think ivory can be different. ivory can be different. the major consumer of ivory is china and it's not just china, it's the government of china. the chinese government was allowed in 2008 to buy about 60 tons of ivory on --in a one time sale from africa and they immediately built the world's largest ivory-carving factory and retail shops and so if you present to the chinese government the cost of their ivory industry, the cost in human lives as well as elephant lives, my hope is that they'll understand that the ivory industry is not something the world needs at this time. >> you found out just how good these fakes were apparently when you landed in tanzania, tried to go through custom, what
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happened? >> turns out if you go through customs with things that look exactly like elephant tusks you might be arrested for trafficking ivory and half the guys looked at the x-ray -- the x-ray of my suitcase and said you're an ivory trafficker and half the guys saw the electronics inside my tusks and said no, he's not an ivory smuggler, he's smuggling a bomb. so i spent the night in police custody there. >> well, glad you got out and it's a great story. bryan christy, thank you so much. really important stuff there. thanks for joining me. >> thanks, alex. next up, the moment an undercover cop mistakenly took down tennis star james blake. more on this at the top of the hour. and later, with football season under way a look at big jumping and online sports better and whether it's legal. now that's a full weekend.
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front-runner donald trump. the welcome mat. how inviting is europe today as munich makes room for 10,000 more migrants. >> big you have no cash a giant zmek put it to the test week one in the draft kings millionaire maker. >> reporter: pig skin payoffs is the big business of fantasy football a winning bet for small time players. and apple showoffs, will consumers buy into the new wave of gadgets? welcome to "weekends with alex witt". here's what's happening right now. we begin with katy tur in boone, iowa. where donald trump is about to kick off a major event. katy, with a good day, let's talk about the crowd, the parade. when does that get under way. >> this is a parade that just ended here in boone, iowa, it's the puffer belly celebration.
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they have it every year after labor day. it's a train, that's what a puffer billy is. then a number of people are funneling their way over to where donald trump is having his rally. it's also where the food is so it's unclear if they're stopping for food first but a number of people are walking to the event right now. we expect to hear his major talking points including immigration and his wall and his desire to create more jobs in this country. after that he's going to be heading over to ames to the iowa versus iowa state football game. he'll be joined at a tailgate by marco rubio and rand paul and it's going to be interesting to see if there's any interaction between him and the other candidates, specifically rand paul, because he's gotten into a number of tussles with him in the past. unclear if they'll be crossing paths or not. he is ahead of rand paul in the polls right now. he doesn't necessarily mean he's going to punch back. usually he's punching back at people coming closer to him
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including ben carson lately and carly fiorina. in fact, republican insiders say that of all the people to watch the debate on wednesday it's carly fiorina because she might be able to land a blow that will knock donald trump off of his pedestal, off of his high place in the republican polls and the face comments he made about her in "rolling stone" put her in a unique and good position to potentially fight back and move up and move herself up and move him down. alex? >> okay, one question about the football. because as i understand it, rubio, paul and walker are legit big football fans. do we know if donald trump is a football fan or just likes the winning team? >> i don't know, alex, my gut says he'll say he likes both teams equally. but i think which ever one treats him more nicely will be the one he likes more.
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that's the way it's been with donald whoever's nicest to him, he's nice to them i've heard him say that a few times now. >> thank you to everyone from boone. we're keeping our eye on the donald trump event expected to get under way shortly and we'll monitor mitt the control booth and bring it to you as is applicable. developing now, we have live pictures from madrid, spain, as a march is about to get under way. thousands gathering in the streets in a show of support for the migrants arriving in europe's largest wave of migration in decades. this week, spain said it would accept an additional 14,000 refugees. meantime, a new crush of people arriving in europe today as the migrant crisis shows no sign of ending. a german official says 3,600 people arrived just this morning. a total of 10,000 or more are expected by the end of today. hungary's prime minister is calling for financial aid to syria's middle eastern neighbors, this to stem the flow of migrants at the source and
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our reporter claudia is in budapest for us. what is the scene like for us today? >> i can only describe the atmosphere as positive. many volunteers are helping out, many refugees camping out wile they wait for a train to take them to either austria or germany. some are playing music, others are playing with children. many others are giving out food, water and shelter. i can say the same for the border with serbia where there is a refugee center that still holds hundreds of refugees in conditions that human rights groups have called abysmal. yesterday we saw the video from inside that camp that showed so many refugees scrambling to catch one of those plastic bags that contained sandwiches and water that were being thrown into the crowd by a handful of policemen but this hasn't deterred many other refugees from trying to come here to hungary. as a matter of fact, a
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record-breaking number are still coming in, more than 3,000 a day across the border into hungary where we've seen 7,600 across the board intermacedonia on thursday on the way to hungary. that brings the total number of refugees that arrived in the e.u. to more than 430,000. that means if this trend continue wes will break the half a million mark by the end of next month. alex? >> staggering numbers. claudio, thank you. developing now, what could be a potential break in the random shootings. a person of interest taken into custody in connection to the dozen or so shootings, most of which have taken place along a freeway. scott cohn is in phoenix following the story for us. i know it's been on edge for folks in phoenix. what are police saying about the person of interest? >> well, his name is oscar munoz, he is 19 years old. he had his initial court appearance this morning in phoenix on an unrelated charge
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of marijuana possession, taken into custody yesterday as what police have said is a person of interest. and they say that they're talking to other people. it's not clear whether they're still talking with him about the shooting investigation. they said they were talking to him about a lot of things. meantime, the police are still putting out their call to the public for any information leading to an arrest, leading to any information about who is behind this, a $20,000 reward is being offered and as you can see behind me on interstate 10 where the bulk of these shootings have happened people are still using the freeways but also among them are police who've stepped up their patrol, some patrols have been reconfigured to look at the sides of the freeways. they there are also undercover officers in a string of shootings that began two weeks ago today.
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an undercover cop took down tennis star james blake, this video was released and then a day later the commissioner apologized to blake. >> reporter: a warm round of applause for james blake at the u.s. open friday night. a bit of relief from a difficult week. earlier that day, police released hotel surveillance video showing kblak's mistaken arrest. the retired tennis star is seen standing outside a hotel texting when suddenly plainclothes officer james frascatore wraps an arm around blake's neck and tackles him to the ground, putting him in handcuffs. blake says that he was detained for 10 minutes and police used excessive force even though he says he never resisted. police say there was a case of mistaken identity but the commissioner is investigating. >> was force used appropriately in? the initial review we believe it
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may not have been. >> reporter: police and the mayor have apologized to blake. late friday blake responded saying "extending courtesy to a public figure mistreated by the police is not enough. i am determined to use my voice to turn this incident into a catalyst for change. frascato frascatore, the undercover officer, has two pending excessive force lawsuits filed against him. he's on modified duty. now the 59 seconds of video for everyone to see, a critical element in this case. rehema ellis, nbc news, new york. straight ahead, the jeb bush tax reform plan. who would profit most from it? and we're monitoring events in boone, iowa, where donald trump is expected to hold a rally any minute now.
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1:13 giving you a look at a pre-game rally donald trump is expected to attend before the big iowa/iowa state football game coming up later. also in attendance, republican candidates rubio, walker and paul. they won't at the trump rally, they'll do their own thing. they're holding tailgates but we'll monitor this event and bring it to you when it gets under way and monitor it from our control booth. on the other side of the aisle, bernie sanders shaking things up in the race for the democratic party's presidential nomination. two recent polls show him beating hillary clinton in two key states in iowa by one point. new hampshire by nine points and he's been in south korcarolina where he wrapped up a rally on the campus of benedict college. also today, a quarter of the gop presidential candidates are at the tailgater party at the iowa/iowa state game. let's bring in olivia nuzzi from
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the daily beast and josh with barrow, "new york times" domestic correspondent and msnbc contributor. josh i'll start with you first. do you think bernie sanders has what it takes to beat hillary clinton in the long run? >> probably not. the thing you have to keep in mind is that everything is priced in with hillary clinton. with the possible exexception of richard nixon, she is the best understood presidential candidate on modern american history. she's been on the political scene for decades so any attack launched against her will be saying something people have heard and had an opinion about. bernie sanders even though he's been in the senate and the congress for a long time is not a well known quantity that a lot of people haven't faced negative attacks, he has not been a democrat for his entire political career, he has a mixed record on gun control that i think will be a challenge for him in the democratic primary when people hear about it and he's also shown difficulty connected with non-white voters. is when you look back at how barack obama beat hillary clinton in 2008, he put together a two-part coalition, the
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progressive left bernie has been a big hit with and also black voters which barack obama had almost uniform support from in the primaries and which bernie sanders has not demonstrated yet. so i think these polls show him stronger than he's likely to be. i think hillary is still the overwhelming favorite. >> clearly, though, the sanders campaign is aware of that. he's at benedict college. >> a major of the black college. >> he definitely understand this is as an area where he needs to get stronger and he's better talking about black lives matter than he was a couple months ago. but hillary clinton has the deep support from the black democratic political establishmentment barack obama showed an unusual ability to overcome that. i don't think bernie sanders is nearly as well positioned as barack obama to do that. >> olivia. bernie sanders again in south carolina. he really tore into the political big money donors. i want to listen to what he said about that. >> we have today one family, the
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dock brother, second wealthiest family in america, they are going to spend $900 million on this campaign. $900 million. when you have one family spending more money than either of the two major political parties, brothers and sisters, that is not called democracy, that is called oligarchy and we must not allow that to take place. >> olivia, do you think sanders changes minds with speeches like that or is he already giving those who would be in attendance at one of his events preaching to the congregation? >> i think it's more the latter. josh is right. people are pretty much set in their juice about hillary clinton so he's not swaying any new voters about -- already set in their opinions about the candidates in the race already. but i think for the voters who really wanted elizabeth warren to get into the race, maybe he's sort of filling that void for them. but really i don't think he can compete with hillary at this
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poi point. >> i want to talk what you wrote about jeb bush's tax plan. high earners were hit with a large tax increase in 2013 because of the partial expiration of the george w. bush tax cuts and new taxes and the affordable care act. jeb bush's tax plan would lower the tax burden on the peltiest to near the levels that prevailed under his brother. how does he expect to connect with the nation's middle-class with that message? >> it's very challenging. the way the bush campaign spun this plan when they put it out was as an attack on crony capitalism, jeb bush is proposing to eliminate the tax deduction for what's called carried interest which is a tax deduction that benefits hedge fund managers and he talked about eliminating other deductions for the rich and the plan does that. but it also enormously cuts tax rates a president top from almost 40% to 28% and the effect of cutting those tax rates outweighs the deductions he's proposing to eliminate on the wealthy so it ends up being a tax cut at the top. structurally quite similar to the tax cuts his brother put into effect when he came into
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office a decade and a half ago and what we saw after that was that the growth we were promised out of them didn't come and so i think this is a very difficult thing to sell to the middle-class that the thing that the american economy really needs right now is more tax cuts for the rich because that will trickle down and generate wage growth and new jobs for everyone. it hasn't worked. >> but what about trump's tax plan? will the middle-class sign on to that one? >> it depends. trump has been very populist. he's been focused on the hedge fund guys saying they don't pay enough. trump said it's outrageous how little tax a lot of millionaires pay and he wants to cut taxes for the middle-class. he's supposed to release a plan soon and we'll see it what says. it's possible to design a tax plan that hands out a cut to the middle-class and hands out a cut for corporate income which donald trump has said he wants to do because he thinks that will generate jobs and investment in the u.s. without cutting personal income tax rates for rich people. so if trump lines up with jeb
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bush and says cut the top rate to 28%, no, he won't be delivering on that. if he says keep the top rate at 35%, 40%, it's possible he will be putting out a tax plan that is very different from what other republicans have proposed in that it focuses on the middle-class not the upper class. >> olivia, we don't want to forget about rick perry despite this maybe being the last day we'll talk about him because yesterday he suspended his campaign. what impact do you think that might have on the gop field and who do you think is likely to drop out next? >> i think george pataki or lindsey graham are probably most likely to drop out next, the candidates who aren't polling very well, polling within the margin of error. perry was obviously trying to get by run tong fumes of the super pacs that were supporting him but it wasn't enough. there wasn't enough interest in his campaign. a lot of it has to do with his dismal 2012 performance but also with the polls. they really did have a big
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impact in terms of sort of drying up any funds that he might have been able to pick up. >> olivia, can i ask you about donald trump's popularity? we know he'll be in dallas at the american airlines arena. they were gone, long gone. they were free and now they're being sold on ebay. what explains the lasting popularity of donald trump in your mind? >> the circus is in town he's a morbid curiosity, people want to see him in the flash but he's an entertainer first and foremost. and i think that has been missing in catholics. politicians aren't usually as colorful, they don't say very much. trump says a million things a minute. >> i think there's another key things which that donald trump is speaking for key policy ideas that haven't been represented in
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the republican or democratic mainstream. donald trump has been very focused on restricted immigration. this isn't something popular. but when he talks about the economy he talks about it in the way that' focused on the middle-class. he said trade deals have been terrible for the middle-class which goes against the elites and he's been talking about the need for tax policy that focuses on the middle-class rather than tupper class. we'll see if that's reflected in his plan but he's speaking for ideas that politicians haven't been expressing. >> but i want to be careful not to patriot donald trump as some sort of middle-class he attacks the rich politician. he also came out and attacked barack obama for getting rid of george w. bush's tax cuts. so he's been very erratic. his plan is more about emotion than any sort of philosophy. >> but that's what i was going to say. when you talk about these policy ideas. i see them as being ideas thus far. where is the policy.
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>> well obviously donald trump has changed his mind about things. in 2000 when he was running for president he said we should have a 14% wealth tax and socialized medicine. but there are some things he's been consistent about in this campaign. he said he doesn't want to cut social security and medicare and medicaid and he's attacked other republicans for saying we should cut programs important for the middle-class. he says i'm make america so rich we don't need to cut those things. now, that's not a detailed budget plan but it does reflect a big ideological difference from the republican party which has been saying for years that the problem is big government, we need smaller government, less spending and donald trump is not putting out an anti-government message, he says our leaders are stupid, our politicians are stupid and i won't be stupid. that's not saying we need less government. it's saying we need government run by donald trump it's a really important message and as he puts out more detailed plans we'll see if that holds up but
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there's a disconnect between voters a lot of whom don't want their social security checks cut and the donor base cleat wants the lower taxes and which has driven the agenda that all the other candidates are putting forward. donald trump is right when he says he doesn't need people's money and it gives him froo freedom to say things other republicans can't say things. >> josh barrow, olivia nuzzi, thank you so much. >> thank you. big changes are coming to iphone but a another apple gadget could be revolutionizing the way you watch tv. what's new from apple next? ♪ mother nature can turn in an instant; don't turn back. introducing the new 2016 ford explorer. be unstoppable. ♪ this is my fight song...
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iphone 6 or 6 plus. is it worth buying the new version? >> i haven't had enough time to know if it's worth the upgrade yet. i will say you can get the phone in pink now. they call it rose gold and it's pink so that's fantastic. you can take live photos that add motion and audio before and after each shot and there's a new feature called 3d touch that adds very cool context options for quickly accessing parts of your phone, previewing messages and it's a terrific feature. >> okay, and what about the iphone payment plan? is this going to make it more affordable for folks? >> well, it depends on what you mean by "affordable." if you mean how much you pay in the long run, no, you'll end up paying more for your phone but it means that since carriers are getting rid of carrier subsidies, toebl doesn't have them, sprint has gotten rid of them, verizon no longer has them.
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if you don't want to pay that $700 up front for the phone you can pay $30 a month to apple or, frankly, one of the carriers and kind of lease the fyn. the advantage of that is that you can upgrade your phone every single year so at the end of the year, trade in your 6s or 6s plus and move on to the iphone 7. but if you calculate how much you're spending over time on the phone, it's going to cost more. >> okay, what about the ipad pro? starting price about $800. for the first time it's in an apple product, it's got a four-speaker audio system but the accessories but what about what is the apple pencil? >> steve jobs who went back on his word said if you see a stylus, they blew it. but he would agree that a stylus is different. it's aimed at professionals. it has a fine tip. it works very well with wrist recognition so if you have your
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wrist on the tablet it won't recognize that and just recognize that the point of the tin. and you can get very, very fine control for both drawing, writing, and other types of artistic activities. >> and what about apple tv somewhat's different this time around? >> everything is different. they updated the interface. it looked familiar to the old interface but they have a new operating system called tv-os. you can have real apps on the apple tv. tim cook says this will be a game changer. tim cook said at the event that the future of tv is apps. i think he's on to something. whether or not apple tv is the direction it goes remains to be determined but this is going to offer up a way for developers, game makers and t channels to provide exciting experiences. plus it has a siri remote so you can search and navigate with your voice and it will do things if you want toed to say "show me movies that are comedies
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directed by john hughes and it will show you those subset of movies very quickly. >> always something from with apple. thank you very much, good to see you in from mashable. >> good to see you. the strain of the migrant crisis in europe. what are wealthy gulf states doing to help out? one home coo? ♪ ♪ ♪ another tie. order in? next time i drive. the right-sized nissan rogue. ♪ i would kill for something sweet. i know... we could have one of those. one? are you kidding? we'll end up eating like thirty. wanna split that?
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. welcome back to "weekends with alex witt". std saudi offici-- saudi offici blaming high winds for a crane that toppled into a mosque yesterday. jake, in terms of the numbers and the death toll, expected to rise? >> it may very well rise because there are 238 injured. among those very serious injury, many broken bones, crushed legs, other injuries. meanwhile, saudi arabian officials are working overtime to clear the debris and clean the area to make way for millions of muslim faithful.
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the grand mosque is the largest mosque in the world and was packed with worshippers at the time of the collapse. cell phone video captured most of it, including the chaos that followed. the official death toll still stands at 107. 238 injured. this is islam's holiest site and it was left littered with bodies and wreckage. the crane that collapsed was one of at least a does than tower over that area. they're part of an expansion project for that purpose to accommodate the millions of muslims who travel there every september. you remember, the holy site is no stranger to disaster. hundreds of pilgrims died in stampedes there in 2004 and 2006. officials say they were aware of the severe weather that hit at that time in fact, it had been storming for days but strong storms are not uncommon and the construction project had been going on for months without incident. they did not expect anything like this to happen.
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if you can imagine, many of those who were there work their whole life to be able to take this pilgrimage and to have this happen it's utter chaos and a real tragedy for many of those there. alex? >> heartbreaking, what a horrible story. thank you so much, jacob rascon from london. let's go to the developing story on the european migrant crisis. amid criticism that wealthy gulf states are not doing their part saudi arabia claims it has taken in more than two million syrians since the war began. the u.s. for its part will be taking in about 10,000 syrians over the next year. joining me, former u.s. ambassador to morocco marc ginsberg. he served on the senate refugee subcommittee that was chaired by senator ted kennedy. marc, with a welcome to you, before we get to the gulf states, 10,000 refugees, that's all the u.s. is taking in. why such a small fraction? >> well, the ostensible reason,
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alex is because there's concern about processing syrian refugees for security reasons because obviously the department of homeland security has concerns that syrians could be -- or some syrians could be members of isis. well, this, of course, you can never rule out the possibility but i remember, alex, several years ago i went to the state department begging the state department to do more on behalf of the refugees in syria if not get involved militarily. i was shunted aside. i was told the white house had no interest in even convening an interagency task force on the crisis and here we are. if ted kennedy were alive he would be bellowing at president obama and his white house for doing so little so so late. >> at the risk of speculation here marc, is there any sense that the migrants, refugees, whatever terminology you want to use, have little interest in going to the gulf states? many, of course, from syria which had a relatively secular
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and open society. >> indeed. in fact, the major number of refugees have been taken more by jordan. and you have to think of this as bathtubs that are overflowing. millions are in jordan, several other -- another million are in lebanon. israel won't take any. the gulf states are very small and saudi arabia, which is opposed to the assad regime obviously does not want to do anything to encourage refugees to leave because they consider the more -- the crisis remains in syria the more pressure there will be on assad to be overthrown. and what every country doing is passing the buck in the region and it's the jordanians and the lebanese bearing the brunt of this refugee crisis and they can not do more. they need desperately more international assistance. >> you mentioned lebanon. in fact, i don't have to school you on this, you know the history of the middle east. it's a history of refugee
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crises, you have lebanon in the west, go east to pakistan, people lived in camps for generations. can you put this current crisis in context for the broader issues in the region? >> everybody always remembers the great catastrophe of what has befallen the palestinian people and how many refugee camp there is still are there i visited, 27 of them still remain throughout the middle east. they're still inhas beened by palestinian refugees since 1948, alex. we're talking about the largest humanitarian refugee crisis in 30, 40 years. there's nothing we've ever seen like this throughout all of the crises i covered, vietnamese, indian, buy i can't have a, anything involving the palestinians. nothing comes close to the sheer human departure occurring as a result of the catastrophe that has befallen 28 million syrians alone. >> in germany in particular, mark, migrants have been received with open arms by the
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public, some 800,000 are expected but there are significant nationalist movements in a lot of western european countries. do you expect a backlash is coming? >> no doubt. and the fact of the matter is, we have to commend the germans and chancellor merkel for showing humanitarianism of the german people. but there will be the dutch and others who will do the same. the swedes are opening up their arms. but the problem here is that you cannot stop this refugee crisis without finally resolving the crisis in syria itself. and the european union right now is a union of disunity because not all of the countries in the union are prepared to take the 160,000 that are prepared to enter europe alone over the next few months. >> all right, ambassador marc ginsberg. marc, thanks so much. >> good to be with you, alex. and from washington to boone, iowa, where donald trump has taken the stage at his pre-game rally there. let's take a loon.
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>> we can't do on like this. so for the last year i've been talking about $18 trillion in debt. now it's $19 trillion in debt and now it's going to start going up fast. obamacare starts kick income in '16 because obama didn't want it to kick many whiin while he's p and it's going to be a catastrophe. we are going to repeal obamacare and replace it with something great. with something really good. we will do that, too. and there's so many -- look at what's happening to your premiums. look at what's happening. look at what's happening to deductibles. they're going so high unless you're dead you won't be able to use them. it's ridiculous. the deductibles are so high you won't be able to use it. and your premiums are through the roof. it's a total catastrophe. we have so many other bad things happening that people aren't talking about obamacare that much anymore. yet when you bring it up, remember the $5 billion web
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site? i won't forget it. the $5 billion web site that doesn't work and i think we all know. so we'll take care of that. we'll take care of our military. we're going to have a military -- [ applause ] and by the way, we're going to take care of our vets. we have a lot of vets. we are really going to take care of our vets, they're our greatest people. we are going to take care of our vets like they should be. two weeks ago on wednesday it was reported the longest wait in the history of the veterans administration. people are waiting three, four, five days to see a doctor and i tell the story, i read in the one of the papers where a man, pretty badly injured, waited five days and after the final wait the doctor said "i can't see you now, i'm going on vacation." think of it. if i go to a doctor, if i have to wait more than like 12 minutes i'm going crazy. so we're a little spoiled but i
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will tell you this. we're going to take care of our vets, we're going to build up our military so big, get so strong we won't ever have to use it -- perhaps. and that would be great. [ applause ] we are going to build the ball. we're going to stop illegal immigration. we're going to stop it. [ cheers and applause ] and you know that's something -- i hear these politicians, i just cant stand them anymore. somebody said "you're a politician now." i said -- for three months i've been a politician, do you believe it? all my life i've dealt with politicians. if you can't make it with a politician you might as well give up. i've spent my whole life, i help them, they'll do whatever, the whole thing is -- i hope we don't have too many politicians, we'll exclude the people in this audience. but i'm out in a politician which is crazy to me. just crazy. i had jury duty, all of a sudden they give me for jury duty and it said "occupation" and i guess
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i'm supposed to say "politician" but i put down "real estate." i can't do the politician. but politicians are all talk, they're no action. they go to washington they tell you they're going do all these things and they never get done. then you have some people you think, oh, these are my people, these are great. this guy, this woman is going to be fantastic. they go to washington and they change. they see the beautiful feceilin, the vaulted ceilings, they see the beautiful marble columns and something happens. i say they become impotent, is that a correct word to use? they become impotent. something happens to them. when they're back in iowa and back in new hampshire and south carolina -- we're winning in all of these states. we're winning everywhere. we just got a poll georgia, florida. how about in florida, you have a governor from florida and you have a senator who's a sitting
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senator and i'm leading in florida by a lot. can you believe it? [ applause ] because people -- and i'm leading the packly tell you. people are tired of incompetence. they're tired of people that don't get it done. you look at our budget, it's massive. somebody like jeb bush is in favor of common core, meaning your children are educated from washington, d.c. who could want this? and you know when you listen to these people, like the common core people, they can't explain it. there's no justification. if i'm in iowa and if i have my children in iowa i want local education. the local teachers and the local administrators will do a better job. [ applause ] then you have people -- so i came out as you know with my immigration plan and i'll tell you, what it's been really well received. better than i thought. and i thought it was a little
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bit stringent, a little tough and a lot of people think, oh, could you make it tougher? it's true. but it's a pretty firm plan. if you're illegal, if you're illegal you have to go back. you have to go back. [ applause ] now if somebody's great and they've been here for a long time i don't think we can -- and i can't live with doing anything -- we can move it -- we can move the process. you have people that have been here a long time but they have to go back. they have to. we've got to bid a wall and get rid of the bad ones. we've got real bad ones. a lot of the gangs you've been reading about in these different places including like chicago and a lot of place, not to mention names but a lot of places they're illegals and they're tough dudes, they're tough, they're out of here. before i even get the wall started they're gone, the first day. one of the first things, they're
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gone. [ cheers and applause ] so we're going to take back our economy. right now if you look at what's going on, trains like this they're going and you know where the stuff is going? goes to china, they don't pay us, we may no tax, you know the whole thing with the tax. a friend of might ne who's a gr manufacturer he sends stuff to china he has to pay a fortune in tax. when they take his product. they don't want it. and yet they send -- and we're stupid. we take everything, no tax, no this, no that. i like free trade but when you have free trade you have to have smart people, smart negotiators. we don't have those people. we don't have those people and believe me if i'm elected i know the smartest, i know the toughest, i know the meanest. some are just horrible human beings. they are, they're horrible.
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you would not have dinner with them. this gentleman here's who's a great vet, you wouldn't want -- but -- do you agree or would you rather have a very nice person like carolyn kennedy, right? she's representing us in japan. she knows nothing. she admit she is knows nothing. but we are going to have the toughest, the smartest, we're going to have people that are so good. we're going to have the greatest -- i know them all. i know the good ones, i know the bad once, i know the overrated ones. i know the ones that will really do a good job and keep friendly which i want. we'll have better relationships with china, japan, mexico. we'll have better relationships than we do right now. we don't have good relationships and they all rip us off. so last year i was just curious and last year i said how much money do we lose with china? meaning what's our deficit? it's over $400 billion.
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think of that, $400 billion. i said what do we lose, just out of curiosity, with japan? i was surprised. not that bad, about $60 billion. not that bad. not bad. we only lost $60 billion. how would we like to have -- iowa would have $60 billion. there'd be no taxes for the rest of your lives, right? and by the way my tax plan comes out in about three or four weeks and we'll lower taxes, especially for the middle-class. we are going to make sure that my friends in the hedge fund business who make a fortune and pay virtually no, a, they are going to start paying taxes. i don't care. you know? i'm self-funding my campaign. i'm spending my own money. when i fly i spend my own money. i don't need their money, i don't want their money. and i feel sort of foolish because guys are coming up to me saying "i want to put millions of dollars --" one guy $5 million and i'm turning hip
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down. i say i don't want it. i feel like -- honestly -- can i use a bad term? i feel like a shmuck. [ laughter ] i'm turning i feel like, honestly, can i use a bad term, i feel like a shmuck. i'm turning down millions of dollars. bush has raised $125 million, $130 million, and he gets it from chooina, from the wall strt guys and from all of the companies. and once you get -- oh, i love that sound. no, i love it. it's progress. but you know what, when i'm president, that train is going to be moving a hell of a lot faster. it is going too slow. that is because your engineer, he stopped because he wants to listen to the speech, can you believe that? [ applause ] no, that sucker is going to be moving and loaded up. i don't know where the hell it is going, but it is going fast. [ laughter ]
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so the hedge fund guys have to pay. now their supporting hillary who may not get to the starting gate, folks, right? i don't know. she may not get -- i don't know. who cares, it doesn't matter. i'm not worried about her. perry, isn't he a nice man. mr. perry, governor perry. he's gone. good luck. he was very nasty to me. but yesterday i put out a tweet. i said he's a wonderful man and wish him well. people couldn't believe. but when you win, everybody is wonderful. and i think he's wonderful. i think he's a nice guy. but he dropped out. so we have a total of 16 people. so what i'm getting nationwide, 23%, one poll came out 40. but when i'm getting 32 -- i have a poll at 40, i have a poll at 32 and then i have other polls and they're all like that. winning in iowa, winning in new hampshire, winning every place. by a lot. and then i hear, here is the
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headline -- carly is surging. she's got 3%. i hear ben, who is a nice guy, ben carson, he's a nice man, he's surging but way behind me. i say what about me. i'm leading. they don't mention that. the headline is carson surging. i keep saying, what about trump? well you're leading, but -- and by the way i'm surging much more than him. i'm surging more than anybody. [ applause ] because look, i mean, in all fairness to ben, ben hit me on my face. you don't hit a person on faith. i don't know him. he knows nothing about me. i'm protestant, i'm presbyterian, and i believe in the bible strongly. no i believe strongly. you don't hit a person on faith. and he was nice enough to apologize. most people don't do that. so i respect that. but it is a tough thing when you
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get hit on faith. the one thing we need in this country, we need energy. i see where the evangelicals are supporting trump, largely. and i'm leading with evafrpgel cals. and part of the reason that they like me and i think strongly is they want to see a country -- they are smart people. i may not be perfect -- and they know that. and maybe ten years ago and four years ago, they said, no, no, he's not perfect. he's not perfect. and we can't -- but you know what i'm really good at? i'm really good at making deals and making this country rich and bringing it back. [ applause ] and i saw pastor jeffers and a few of them on television the other night and they said how do you explain to donald trump -- and again i'm protestant, how do you explain that donald trump is leading substantially, but substantial numbers, with the
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evangelicals? and they said, because they're tired of losing. they're tired of getting these people that don't do anything. that have no energy. and it's true. people don't have energy. i don't think ben has the energy. ben is a nice man. but when you are negotiating against china and negotiating against these japanese guys that are going to come at you in waves and thinks we're a bunch of jerks because our leaders are so stupid and incompetent and inept. we need people that are smart and have tremendous deal-making skills and that have great, great energy. [ applause ] we had a case where hillary said, and jeb said, and they used the same word and it was the same day a couple of weeks ago, i don't like donald trump's tone. his tone. my tone. we have people, christians in
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syria and other places, isis is chopping off their head. their chopping off their head. they are drowning them. they are killing them. if you are a christian, you have no chance. if you are a christian from syria, it is almost impossible to come into the united states. if you are a muslim, from syria, it is the easiest thing to do, to come into the united states. it is one of the easiest places to get in. can you believe this? but if you are a christian, and they are the ones that need the help, you can't get into the united states. now i don't know who is setting those regulations. i have a pretty good idea. i have a pretty good idea. but it is not going to happen any more. but they were saying, at the same time, they said, his tone. t.o.n.e., tone -- >> we're listening to donald trump and approaching the end of the hour. and i want to bring back in deborah lucy. and anything stand out to you
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olivia. >> i think it is funny how they talk about ben carson. we were cordial until this week and they saw him hit him on his face and trump took that personally and said that he's protestant and a very religious man and not fair for ben carson and said he was a presbyterian, which is not a religion. it is trump all around. he sounds like he usually does. he is defiant, he making fun of everything and everyone. making fun of the political process. it is classic trump. >> and it is classic trump. and he did get the chat out to perry and he said when you are winning it is easy to be nice to everyone so no longer a threat to him if he ever was, to be perfectly honest, given the polls. olivia, thank you for saying with us through the trump speech.
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