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we're following breaking news out of mississippi this hour where an active shooter is still on the loose after shooting and killing at least one person on the campus of delta state university. police have identified 45-year-old shannon lam, a current employee of the school as a person of interest. >> the person of interest that we're looking for is mr. shannon lam. he is a employee of the university. and at this time, we're following up on leads, and we have nothing else to release at this time. >> according to police, ethan schmidt and assistant professor of american history was inside his office when he was shot and killed. police have begun to clear all academic buildings on campus to ensure the safety of the
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students, and classes have been canceled for the remainder of the day. hundreds of law enforcement from across the state, along with federal atf agents are on the scene. joining me now, mark potter, who has been following this story for us. mark, let's talk about this person of interest. what do we know about him and what authorities are saying? >> what we know is that he is an instructor of geography and social science education, currently employed at the university. and that he got all three of his degrees, bachelor's, master's and a ph.d. just this spring at the university, at delta state. the police say they do not believe that he is on the campus now. but they're taking no chances. they're searching everywhere on the campus but say they don't think he's there. they're asking the public to call in any tips they might have to local law enforcement officials. the victim, ethan schmidt, as you say, professor of american history, got his ph.d. at the
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university of kansas. teaches all levels of american history and was considered beloved. many people have spoken so kindly about him since his death, and his death is being mourned by faculty and students at the university. police are also saying that they're looking into the possibility that lam may have been involved in a homicide earlier this morning in go shay, mississippi, on the gulf coast, several hours, maybe five hours south of cleveland where the shooting occurred this afternoon. it's east of biloxi. police there have been quoted as saying they believe that lam may have driven an suv from go shay up towards the university and say that a vehicle matching that description was found at the university. so that's why they're making that link. they're looking into the possibility that those two incidents are linked. the school remains on lockdown, according to authorities, but police are going building to
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building, releasing students as they can, so that they can go home safely. an important point to note is that no students were injured in this incident. hospitals have also been locked down today, and police are out in force at other schools in the area which were also locked down. they're there to help the students go home, their parents to come in to pick them up as the school day ends. so they're still very concerned about the fact that lamb has not been accounted for yet and they're taking extraordinary measures. from the governor on down to the mississippi state police, local authorities, federal authorities, the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms all involved in this search now for shannon lamb. >> already, nbc's mark potter, thank you for that update. joining us now on the phone is don mitchell, a professor at delta state university who knew the victim, ethan schmidt. don, thank you very much for joining us. my condolences to you and everyone down there at the delta
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state university campus for this tragedy and the loss of ethan schmidt. i want to start off by asking you about him. what can you tell us about the victim? he seems to be a widely popular proff professor. >> yes, he was a terrific family man, a good friend, a true son of his hometown of peabody, kansas, and an alum. he was an exceptional scholar of native american and colonial history, but more importantly he was a gentleman in every sense of the word. and my heart breaks for him and his family, as well as his friends and loved ones. please keep praying for us all. >> we will, sir. i was wondering also if i can get your take. i understand the person of interest who has been identified as shannon lamb, was or is an employee of the university. what can you tell us about this individual? >> yeah, professor lamb, all i
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know, he took some leave time at the very beginning of the semester, kind of out of nowhere. he decided that he couldn't teach this semester. i know he's been teaching online for the university, but i don't know anything else other than that. i'm just as shocked by his -- by the mention of his name, because he seemed to be a pretty easy-going guy. >> what can you tell us about the shooting, when it happened? where were you at the time the incident happened? >> i live right off campus. so i can walk to my place of employ. i've got a summer cold i'm fighting, and so of course with texting and e-mail, everybody was basically in touch with one another, and i got to say that dr. schmidt's colleagues, chuck west moreland, and brian becker, did an exceptional job of evacuating the students from the area the shooting occurred. >> can you tell us the last time you had any communication or spoken to dr. schmidt? >> probably last week.
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he was a big k.u. basketball fan and supporter. that's where he got his ph.d.. and we were all trading facebook jokes about k.u. basketball and what not. i just, he's got three children and i can only -- i'll just keep praying for them. >> all right, sir, thoughts and prayers are with his children and his family and the entire delta state university community down there. thank you very much. christ christie kitschings is the mother of a student who is on campus. thank you very much for joining us. i want to begin, first of all, have you heard from your son? are they safe right now, your son or daughter? >> yes, it is my son. and he is safe. he is with the head football coach over in the campus training facility. and waiting to -- just waiting to hear updates on what's going on, on the other side of campus. >> can you tell us about how you
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first heard the news and what kind of communication you had with your son, where was he at the time of the shooting. >> yes, my office -- our office, the cleveland current, is located on court street. and most of the emergency personnel, when they head to campus, they go right by our office. and we heard all the sirens going off. i guess it's about 10:15 this morning. 10:20. and we all kind of looked around and i said, i'm going to see what's going on. so i got in my car. soon as i got down the road, i got the text that said emergency alert, and my phone started blowing up about an active shooter on campus. people were calling to check on my son. and i arrived on campus immediately as a mom who was concerned about her child. he was actually in job hall where the shooting occurred. he was on the floor above where
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the shooting took place. >> and i understand it's a pretty small college town. seems like everybody knew everybody there at least. how is the community handling this shooting and more importantly, how are you doing as a mother of a student on that campus? >> well, as a mother, a couple of weeks ago, you hear about what happened on the campus of mississippi state university. and at the time, i thought to myself, i'm so glad my child's at delta state. he's at home, he's safe. you know, you just don't hear anything about that happening close to home, and then this happens. and, um, it's shocking. the community is grieving for what has happened on our campus. for our school, and for the family of professor schmidt. >> all right, christie kitschings, thank you very much for that update and again, we're very happy to hear your son is safe and our thoughts and
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prayers to everyone in the community. now to california where firefighters are losing ground to the most explosive and destructive wildfire of the season. the so-called valley fire, burning north of san francisco, has exploded in size in just the past 24 hours alone, now spanning 61,000 acres. one person is dead, and four firefighters have been injured battling that blaze. at least 400 homes and businesses have been destroyed. governor jerry brown declared a state of emergency late sunday. >> these are serious fires, people have been killed. hundreds of structures, more than that, actually, have been destroyed. more to come. we don't predict, because fire is indeterminate. we don't know what happens until it actually starts burning and continuing. these fires do exceed what the computer modeling has been saying. >> the valley fire is just one of at least a dozen wildfires currently raging across california. now to kentucky, kim davis, the clerk jailed for refusing to
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issue marriage licenses for same-sex couples, returned to work today, saying she won't interfere in handing out marriage licenses to same-sex couples, she won't authorize them either. >> getting a marriage license issued by my office will not be issued or authorized by me. i want the whole world to know, be no mistake about it, my deputy clerks, they don't have the authority to issue any license whatsoever. >> after she spoke, her deputy issued a marriage license to a same-sex couple of 23 years. the first since davis returned to work. >> i was very relieved. once we knew, you know, this was going to happen today, it's like this peace and excitement sort of took over. it's really became more a personal moment at that point. >> all right, joining me now is nbc's sarah in moorhead, kentucky. so kim davis back at work, but same-sex couples are receiving marriage licenses.
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what are her lawyers saying about how this unfolded today? >> well, they're calling it a good faith effort on the davis' part, a way for her to follow the judge's order while not violating her religious beliefs. while that couple was being issued their license, she was in her office with the door shut and the blinds drawn. so drama surrounding the issue of that license. there was a minor hiccup with the printer, but otherwise things went smoothly and quickly. davis and her attorneys continue to ask the legislature to make changes to the law accommodating her religious beliefs. the governor said he sees no reason to call a special session, that would cost taxpayers $60,000 a day. the legislature is scheduled to reconvene in january. >> thank you for that update. coming up, donald trump is getting ready to hold a mega rally in texas with 20,000 attendants expected. it comes as a new poll gives him four times as much support as jeb bush.
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in just a few hours, republican front-runner donald trump will hold his second mega rally of the campaign, this one in dallas, at the american airlines center, home to the nba's dallas mavericks and nhl's dallas stars. up to 20,000 people are expected to attend it. the campaign handed out free tickets, some of which believe it or not are now being resold
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for $200 a pop. tonight's rally comes as new polls continue to show that donald trump is leading the field. a new washington post/abc news poll national shows him with 33%, a comfortable lead over his nearest rival ben carson. another poll out of new hampshire shows him maintaining a sizeable lead with 28%. perhaps the biggest challenge for trump this week, wednesday night's second gop debate. an event he says he's ready for. >> my whole life is preparation for a debate. you know, if you think about it, what's preparing for a debate? there's a million different things. my whole life is preparation. >> trump told the "wall street journal," i hope they attack me, because everybody who attacks me is doomed. joining me now from denver, katy tur. thanks for joining us. what are we expecting from trump
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tonight on this second mega rally if you will? >> well, we expect him to give the stump speech that now he's become pretty good at giving. he has well worked out talking points that he likes to hit. we do also expect he will mention that debate and he did tell us as recently as saturday that he's fully expecting to be attacked by his opponents, but it's no problem because when they attack him, his poll numbers go up and their numbers go down. the only exception to that could be carly fiorina, insiders say she's well positioned to take him down a notch, talking about that face comment that he made last week to "rolling stone." even released an ad, saying look at that face and owning that insult and using it to her advantage, and interviewing women within that campaign ad. trump's camp says they'll focus on her record as a businesswoman and how they call it, abysmal. but we're also expecting to hear
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about immigration here tonight. and in light of that, there will be a pretty big protest with an hispanic group, expecting 1,500 people out here protesting his immigration stances and saying he's not fit to be the leader of this country. >> and in addition to the protests out there, there's been other news today, that is that the former governor of california, and television film star, arnold schwarzenegger will be taking over the apprentice. curious to get your reaction from the trump campaign, whether there's a response to that news? >> trump tweeted himself, congratulations arnold schwarzenegger. he retweeted saying he was overwhelmed and thankful for all the support. so far a positive reaction. i think you'll hear about that as well. i wouldn't be surprised if he comes out and says something interesting along those lines. >> all right, we'll have to wait and see.
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katy tur, thanks so much for that. for more insight on this, i'm joined by political reporter for "the new york times" jeremy peters and maria theresa kumar and former special assistant to george w. bush, ron christie. trump could draw a lot of attacks wednesday night, and, quote, the critical coverage trump received in july and august has been replaced by a perception that he's bulletproof, at least for now. what do you expect to see at wednesday's debate? >> i think republicans are no longer afraid to go after him. over the last couple of weeks, we've seen kind of an increased willingness to take the gloves off and really tear into fiorin from rick perry, who has departed the race, from ben carson. across the board, people feel like attacking trump is no longer a threat to their own candidacy. i will say this, looking at
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these poll numbers today and seeing trump north of 30%, the one thing that a lot of -- call them establishment republicans, are kind of reassuring themselves with, is the fact that over the course of the last few republican presidential contests, the anti-establishment candidates have traditionally gotten about 50% of the vote in the early stages of the campaign. whether or not that holds, we'll see. but this is not something that entirely unprecedented. >> and ron, let me ask you, the next debate is going to be late october. it's going to be some time before anybody or any other candidate has the ability to attack donald trump on a national media stage like what we'll see on wednesday night. so do they take it? or what's the strategy here? >> i've talked to one leading candidate who will be on the stage on wednesday. he said, my approach to this, i'm going to talk about what i'm for, what my vision is, how i would offer the country a different way forward, as opposed to attacking.
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but i do think you'll see the jeb bushs -- they've been going back and forth with each other, i think you'll see someone like bush attack trump to try to deflate some of the attention trump's taken from him. >> maria, let's talk about other candidates that may be on the stage, what they'll need to do to have a big performance. who do you think needs to have a solid big performance wednesday night? >> i think the only one that needs to is going to be trump. the reason i say that, everyone's going to be attacking him and i would be watching for the folks that are not attacking him. recognizing that the folks that are trying to fall down with him, it's going to be jeb bush. you'll see marco rubio try to do the same thing. the folks more on the sidelines that are more quiet, are the ones who will say let somebody else take him down, so i can use this as opportunity. this is a long game. they want to make sure they're not the first ones to leave like rick perry just did. >> let me ask you if i can, you were just bringing him up, there's a new poll that shows
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trump quadrupling bush's support nationally. there's also a report that he started flying commercial due to slower fund raising. can jeb bush rebound from what he's gone through? >> of course he can. if you look at the bush network, he has a lot of organizational advantages that mr. trump doesn't. he's very well positioned in the earl states, both with staff and with consultants. so, yes, jeb bush can rebound. i think people want to see more energy out of him. he's come across a little bit lethargic, but given his name and connections, i wouldn't write him out this early. >> what do you think jeb's got to do to get back in on a competitive level at this point? >> i think it's going to be very hard. if you look at what's happening on the republican side of this, it's are very similar to the democratic side. that is this repudiation of legacy politicians and who is the biggest legacy candidate of them all but jeb bush? so i don't know, short of changing his last name, what does he do?
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>> maria, let me ask you about carly feareena's super pac today. take a listen. >> we are not a special interest group, we are the majority of the nation. ♪ >> this is the face of a 61-year-old woman, i am proud of every year and every wrinkle. >> now, that was a commercial that was released by her pac, not by the campaign. i want to be clear about that. what should her strategy be going into this debate? >> well, she's not afraid, she's clear what her objective is, that is to become president and to make sure she's going toe to toe. she's doing that. the fact that trump has been saying these misogynistic comments about women, and she's not afraid to take him on,
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that's going to be trump's achilles heel. >> and ron, ben carson perhaps by some measure, a surprising number two candidate so far in this race. what does he got to do wednesday night? some are saying he's been smart in not attacking donald trump. he's been very cautious about that. but is that a smart steaj rateg not? >> i think it is. you don't want to get in the mud with donald trump and fight on that level. whoa dr. carson speaks to is authenticity. people are looking at him, he's not a politician, what he has to do, is protect, i can be president of the united states, i have the leadership, i have the background experience, people can look at him as a credible candidate. >> seems authenticity is the name of the game in this race. thank you all very much for your insight and analysis. after the break, a stunning report just released in ferguson by a commission formed after the death of michael brown. we'll look at what they found,
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>> among the 47 top policy priorities listed in the report, setting up a public database to keep track of police-involved shootings. a series of criminal justice reform measures including eliminating incarceration for minor offenses and expunging old convictions of non-repeat offenders. the panel also recommended the state raise the minimum wage wage to $15 an hour and expand medicaid eligibility. it's up to the state to implement any of these issue ms. joining me now, senator maria nadal. of the recommendations in this report, how difficult will it be to get these through? >> i have to tell you, in the last several years, i've past legislation through a republican-filled majority. and here's what i have to say to begin with. i filed legislation in december
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of last year, dealing with deadly force, also dealing with our constitutional rights and we heard nothing but crickets from the ferguson commission. i also would like to congratulate them, though, for putting in a lot of hard work and diligence into coming up with a plan. however, when you read the letter of what they were talking about, when you see some of that, it's not explained fully. so i have an issue with practicality of getting some of these things moved in a republican legislature, but i also think that these recommendations are more reactionary. in fact, what they do not do is change the failed system in which we are living and operating right now. we have african americans who are still at the bottom of the economic food chain. >> right. >> and the recommendations that we have now do absolutely nothing to change that. >> and i wanted to pick up on that particular point about the economic disparity. it's not just the economics, the recommendations in the report
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were made based in part off some very striking statistics. black motorists are more than 75% more likely to be pulled over in traffic stops than white people. the average life expectancy in one black suburb was more than 30 years less than in a mostly white suburb nearby. so do you think that any of those come as a surprise to st. louis residents? do they come as a surprise to you? >> no, they're not a surprise at all. but what we should be focusing on are all citizen injustices. in fact, the reason why minorities are dying at a faster pace is because mallinckrodt inlegally dumped uranium and other chemicals into black neighborhoods. that's why we have an increase of cancers throughout the region, including brain cancer, brain tumors in babies, babies who do not have their eyeballs, and who have double sets of teeth. we need to deal with the environmental issues that we face. i also saw the part about housing. and if you have contaminated
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soil, why would any family want to move into a neighborhood with contaminated soil with uranium? >> thank you very much for that update, and certainly we'll be talking about this in the coming weeks and months ahead. >> thank you. just ahead we're continuing to follow this shooting at delta state university in mississippi where a professor has been killed. plus, in 2016 politics, will vice president joe biden launch a campaign? a new report suggests he could wait a month to jump in. does he have the time? we'll talk to a senior adviser to the draft biden super pac coming up next. were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. start shopping online... ...from a list of top rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. i think it's timee shade of to change it up!rs. goodbye, red. hello, golden blonde.
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professor ethan schmidt was shot and killed in his office this morning. his aunt spoke just moments ago. >> ethan was the best family man i have ever known. he was the biggest jayhawk fan. he would do anything for his family, extended or otherwise. >> the campus remains on lockdown and classes have been canceled for the remainder of the day. let's switch back to politics. any moment now hillary clinton will appear at a campaign stop in decora, iowa, her visit to the state since labor day weekend. the appearance comes on the heels of new developments of clinton's private use of e-mail while at the state department. this weekend, it's reported the company who managed her private server had no knowledge of the server being wiped. in other words, tens of thousands of her correspondence
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from her time as secretary of state could still be recovered. maybe the bigger challenge, vermont senator bernie sanders. a new survey shows sanders with comfortable leads in iowa and new hampshire. clinton trails him by ten minutes in iowa. and in new hampshire, sanders leads a whopping 22 points. hours ago, sanders delivered a speech before a packed house at jerry would faldwell's liberty university. a rare venue for a democratic presidential candidate. >> i came here today because i believe from the bottom of my heart that it is vitally important for those of us who hold different views, to be able to engage in a civil discourse. [ applause ] >> joining me now is former governor of vermont and former chair of the dnc, howard dean. good to have you back on the
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show, sir. let's talk about the numbers. what do you make of the numbers for clinton so far from what you're seeing? >> you know, i think these are great numbers for bernie. but i'm not panicking as a clinton supporter. you know, she's steady. she still leads by a huge amount nationally. she's confident and i think she's the best qualified person in america to be president of the united states. and i think the voters are going to see that. sad to say, i had numbers like this at one time, but i'm sitting in this chair, not in a big fancy office. >> that's a pretty good chair, some would say. we should note, that clinton, she still holds a comfortable lead in national polls. according to a new washington post/abc poll, but howard, as you know it, it's pretty hard to recover from the primary if you lose both iowa and new hampshire. is it not? >> yep. -- yes, it is. this is a different year, though. this is a year where you have an
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insur rekzist candidate who has his demographic overrepresented in iowa and new hampshire. so the real test is going to be -- i mean, i actually think at the end of the day hillary will win iowa, but who knows. but i think at the end of the day, you've got to win in the south, you've got to win in the midwest, and you've got to win in places like california. and that is -- takes a lot of organization. now we'll see. bernie is very capable and he may yet build this organization. i don't think this election is anything but close, but i think it would be a little too early for democrats to start panicking. >> so, howard, that same abc poll found that 56% of americans say that hillary clinton is not honest and trustworthy. is that only going to hurt hillary clinton as the primary gets closer, do you think? >> no, i think that's going to go away, for the most part. it turns out all these e-mails stuff is falling apart.
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there is no there there. there's no criminal activity. now it turns out the 30,000 personal e-mails still exist. somebody can look at those. sooner or later, these raft of accusations fueled by the right-wing gop and echoed by the hapless media, are going to stop because there's nothing there. so i think that will go away. it's just like the white water scandal and the vince foster scandal. eventually what you can't prove your case, the public moves on, that's what is going to happen here. >> howard dean, thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> the biggest question over the democratic race for president is still whether or not joe biden is going to run for president. today bloomberg news reports that biden met with a billionaire, robert wolf, while he was in new york last week. according to bloomberg, biden world is gaming out and perhaps leaning towards a new timetable with the vice president waiting until late october or early
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november to join the race. joining me now, former obama campaign strategist steve shale. good to have you on. >> thank you. >> you were president obama's top strategist, why are you backing joe biden? >> you know, for me, it's just an affinity for the vice president. i made a decision to sit out 2016. i've done five consecutive statewide lekz elections in florida. and the idea of sitting on a beach was more fun. but when it became obvious the vice president was serious about this, i wanted to help out. >> our own team reports that biden potentially waiting another month, limits how credible of a campaign he could mount. a sitting vice president running for the white is a security endeavor with his status. he can't fly coach. let's talk about that. do you think that's true? the longer he waits that the
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harder it becomes for him to mount a serious competitive campaign? >> yeah, two things. first of all, we're all looking at this through a political lens. when in reality for the vice president it's a personal decision. somebody close to him said to me last week, hard to put a timeline on dealing with grief. so it's not really a question of him trying to figure out the right way to enter. it really is figuring out a personal timeline. while i respect both mark and chuck for what they write, i disagree. the vice president is 100% name i.d., been building a national network of donors for 40 years. there's a lot of energy out there, a lot of donors and political people talking to other people, i think if he pulls the trigger in november, we'll be fine. >> but logistically, can that campaign still be competitive come november? >> yeah, first of all, if you look back at 2007, secretary clinton held a 30-point lead going into november. clearly we know how that turned
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out. so in terms of the timeline, it's fine. in terms of mechanically putting together a campaign, if it were you or me, it would be different. but for somebody with 100% name i.d. and network like he's got, plus, this draft biden, we have staff on the ground, talking to donors, organizing and we're getting ready. >> thank you very much for joining us, sir. >> thanks. coming up, the jail house exclusive everyone's talking about. we're hearing for the first time from former prison worker joyce mitchell about how he helped two inmates make their daring escape in upstate new york. and up next, hungary seals their border as european leaders hold an emergency meeting on the refugee crisis that's unfolding there. we'll take you live to that border after this. read text. (siri voice) adam, i'm sorry. i shouldn't have said that about your hair. it's not stupid. (ding) find hair salon. wow. yeah, that's right. (siri voice) ok, jack's boutique is nearby.
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on a plan to relocate 120,000 asylum seekers across eu member states. this meeting came as more countries, austria, slovakia and the netherlands followed germany's lead in setting up new border controls. hungary has blocked a major crossing point on the border with serbia. authorities there said 5,000 migrants and refugees had crossed the border by noon local time today. joining me now from the serbian/hungarian border, richard engel. let's talk about the scene behind you, what you've been seeing there today and why hungary decided to seal its border today. >> reporter: well, you've probably been watching over the last several weeks, actually last several months, that there's been this enormous exodus of people leaving, mostly from syria, iraq, afghanistan, but many other countries as well, and they've been trying to make their way to germany and sweden and other parts of
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northern and western europe. hungary is the gateway to the eu. it is on this path and hungary just found itself and many other countries found themselves overwhelmed. today, what we saw was hungary tightened its borders dramatically. it didn't shut the borders entirely, but what we are seeing now is, as far as we can tell, the only legal and legitimate border crossing for refugees and migrants that is still available to them. the rest of the border has been closed off with fencing. it has been closed off by riot police, by soldiers. so what we're seeing here is people waiting until they will be let into hungary. hungary is still letting people in, but only a trickle at a time. every hour, maybe 50 or a hundred people are let in, nothing like the thousands that were streaming into hungary yesterday, even earlier today. >> and richard, what are the conditions like for some of the refugees that are on that
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border, trying to make it through? is there any organization or organizations that are trying to provide any kind of shelter for them? i see people behind you wearing heavy coats. what's the temperature and atmosphere like there? >> reporter: well, behind me right now, there's some media here, there are some aid workers. these are some police officers from serbia. we're on the serbian side now. over there is hungary. and people here don't know exactly how long they will have to stay here. earlier in the day, people were going through, it was a big crowd, but they were being brought through 50, 60 an hour depending on the flow of buses on the hungarian side. there haven't been any going through for the last several minutes, maybe an hour or more. seems like they're waiting -- >> all right, it looks like we lost richard's connection there. he was live for us on the
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serbian/hungarian border with an update. and lester holt reports live from europe on the migrant crisis tonight on nbc nightly news. check your local listings for more details. still ahead, matt lauer's exclusive one-on-one interview with joyce mitchell, the former prison worker open says up for the first time about her role in a brazen escape that landed her behind bars. namaste. stay. taking care of our teeth is one of them. when i brush my teeth, he gets a milk-bone brushing chew. just another way to keep ourselves healthy. i'll go change. wow. sweet new subaru, huh myep.? you're selling the mitchmobile!? man, we had a lot of good times in this baby. what's your dad want for it? ..like a hundred and fifty grand, two hundred if they want that tape deck. you're not going to tell your dad about the time my hamster had babies in the backseat, are you?! that's just normal wear and tear, dude. (vo) subaru has the highest resale value of any brand... ...according to kelley blue book ...and mitch.
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today thousands of teachers in seattle, washington remain on strike, cancelling classes for more than 50,000 students, despite talks into the weekend, teachers have yet to reach an agreement over pay raises and extending the length of this the school day. for more than six years, teachers went without a raise until state lawmakers were forced by the courts to increase education funding. the amount of the raise has not been disclosed, but the union insists it is not enough. for the first time, we are hearing from the prison worker who helped two convicted murderers escape from prison in upstate new york. in an exclusive interview, joyce mitchell spoke about her relationship with richard matt and david sweat and what she did to help them break out of prison. she sat down for a jail house interview with the "today" show's matt lauer. >> david sweat shot a sheriff's deputy 15 times. so these are two guys who
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committed heinous crimes. >> yes. >> and these are the guys you allowed yourself to have a friendship with? >> yes. everybody tells me i'm way too nice. >> when did they start asking you for favors? >> a few months before they decided to get out, they were asking me for things. >> so what did you bring them? >> i would bring cookies, brownies, you know, stuff like that. >> pretending that you were bringing them in for yourself? >> yes. >> how often did you do that, joyce? >> i did it a lot. >> were you ever nervous? were you afraid you'd get caught doing it? >> i actually was. because they're supposed to check our bags every morning when we come in. and they're supposed to check them when you go out. but they never did. >> and then they started asking for other things. when richard matt comes to you
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and says, joyce, i need a star-shaped drill bit, that's a lot different than cookies and brownies? >> yeah. >> and what did you think? >> at first, i'm like, i can't get you that. but then he's like, i need it. >> for what? >> at first, they didn't tell me. and then after they did, it was because they were going to try to escape. >> had you already given it to them at that stage? >> yes. but i give them the stuff because they had threatened -- it was mr. matt, he looked at me one day and said, you know, joyce, i do love you, and i said, i love my husband. and a little while after that, he wanted to get -- >> you can see more of the interview this friday on "dateline" including why she says she did not show up the night the two inmates escaped.
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that does it for me this hour. jonathan capehart picks up our live coverage next. thanks for watching. i'm jonathan capehart. tonight, bernie sanders goes to the place where ted cruz launched his political campaign and gets applause. plus, maybe the best news hillary clinton's ever received about her e-mail situation. and what happened when miss america was asked about tom brady? you don't want to miss that. but first, bernie sanders gave a speech today at an unlikely place, liberty university, the conservative christian university in lynchburg, virginia, founded by the late reverend jerry faldwell. in his opening remarks, sanders received a surprisingly warm welcome from the crowd when he spoke about his views on social issues. >> the views that many here at liberty university have and i
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