chief here. they're not yet talking about motives. also want to address quickly, richard, the idea of this endless rhetoric that kristen welker was talking about from the white house. you sort of heard a little bit today for the first time from the sheriff from the podium. spoke to some gun shops earlier talking about what's going on in the community and a lot of them don't want to talk right now. a sheriff in an area like this where guns are such a normal thing, for the first time talked about the idea of solutions across the country to prevent something like this from happening again. now, that's interesting to me because we know that the sheriff is not necessarily a supporter of gun control. and he wrote a letter to the vice president of the united states in 2013 saying just that. >> now, jacob, as we were watching the news brief iing ju 45 minutes ago or so here, one of the other big headlines people might take from it they're watching through this is you can see the pain still from

everybody, everybody who was there at that news briefing. >> reporter: particularly the chief of the fire department because he reminded everybody that there were two victims in this shooting up at the community college that were direct relatives of members of the ems community here in roseburg. and that is something that, you know, i sat in the front row yesterday for the second press conference and you could see the tears in the eyes of the chief of the fire department as he discussed those facts. and it's hit that entire department which many of them were in the building directly behind me incredibly hard. >> also what they released was a tick tock of that morning starting at what is 10:38 a.m. local time going all the way up until about 11:47. what did we learn from that, jacob? >> reporter: well, this happened incredibly quickly, richard. as you were saying earlier almost like within a ten-minute timefra timeframe. the first call went in at 10:38 -- or 10:39 after the incident happened at 10:38.

five minutes later police officers from the roseburg police department, two police officers who the sheriff called heroes were on the scene. two minutes later the suspect was down. the incident all played out in that amount of time. it sort of shows everybody that, you know, how fast something like this actually unfolds and the time in which first responders are able to sort of make a decision about how to handle it. >> yeah. and part of it as has been said this is not easy to do. not that anybody would think that here, jacob. this is not easy to do to put together this timeframe as they're working with so many different law enforcement groups. and now this may be why they are not going to have another news conference, at least that's what was announced, because they need to get back to work and put -- and finish everything as fatigue starts to set in. jacob, thank you for that. i now want to move over to morgan ratford, ten people were killed, or dead, nine victims of this gunman. and you are learning more details in this investigation

about who they are. >> reporter: that's absolutely right, richard. we're standing outside right now of mercy medical center where one victim is in critical condition and another survivor is in stable condition. we've learned from the information officer here at mercy that the earliest that he believes that the stable condition patient will go home would be monday. so we imagine that patient who's in critical condition will be going home later in the week. we also learned just this hour that there are still three patients at sacred heart hospital just up the road. two of them are in critical condition. and one is in fair condition. we're also learning more about the shooter from the details released by those recently released survivors. one survivor was released from the hospital last night. and an 18-year-old survivor told the local newspaper here in oregon that the shooter asked the students inside the classroom to get into the center of the classroom. and then asked them if they believed in god. to which he chillingly said i'll meet you there suggesting he knew he was going to leave that

altercation not alive. which has been confirmed as you saw by the press conference with sheriff hanlin who believes it was suicide that killed the gunman. >> six were critical at the moment during that shooting and then transported according to the timeline that they have provided. again discussing those still in critical condition. one individual that's certainly been talked about in the oregonian and other local pris is chris mintz, 30, army veteran. there's a picture of him. as being a man who stood up with great courage to try to stop the shooter. and the ofund now has raised ovr $6,000. >> that was only in the past two days. in fact, he's the patient in critical condition here at mercy behind me. but we're learning now that he

actually tried to stop the shooter by using his body to block the door in order to protect the other students inside the classroom with him. he was shot seven times and currently suffered two broken legs. his cousin is who put up that go fund me campaign not only to care for his medical expenses but also to care for his 6-year-old son who is autistic. we've also spoken to family members. they say when he woke up he said he was concerned about paying for those medical bills. we imagine this will be quite a relief to him and his family. >> before we let you go, tell me about the family members or friends that have come by and what you've seen in the last 24 hours. >> it's been a somber day here, richard. the community is clearly quite shaken. this is a small community. it was a logging community. and about 22,000 residents here now. so you can imagine that because it is so close knit this community has really been rocked by what just happened in the past 48 hours. we're also hearing now from the family of those who did lose their lives that day. for example we heard from the mother of jason johnson who was 33 years old. she said that day she just had a feeling that something wasn't right when she heard the news

broke. in fact, jason johnson according to his mother had been struggling with drugs and finally gotten on the right path and was incredibly proud of himself for going to college. so he looked at his mom and said, mom, how long have you been waiting to see one of your children graduate from college? and she said 20 years. she also said as soon as he heard the news she felt in her soul something simply wasn't right. we're hearing lots of heartbreak around this community today, richard. there's a vigil planned to honor those nine victims. >> morgan radford, thank you for covering the story for us in roseburg, oregon. we're now going to move to the other big story that we're following on msnbc today. and that's the deadly storm that is battering the east coast. there's heavy rain, strong winds and deep floods that are effecting hundreds of thousands of people this hour. the storm stretching across several states and the southeast taking the brunt. and president obama just declaring a federal state of emergency in south carolina. nbc news correspondent sara

dalloff is live in columbia, south carolina, as people there prepare for the worst. south carolina has certainly seen a lot of horrible weather lately. >> a lot of terrible weather across south carolina. and the president now signing these emergency declaration which will allow fema to come in and handle all the response efforts between the state, local and federal governments. now, that's in charleston where they're experiencing widespread flooding. now here a little more inland in columbia they're hoping that the rain stays steady enough that the storm drains are able to keep up. people have been told here anywhere from 12 to 16 inches through monday. a lot of eyes on the river that cuts right through the city as it approaches flood stage. meanwhile here in the downtown it's a flood prone area. it's called five points. it flooded historically so business owners as you can see getting prepared with sandbags. they've also been clearing storm drains and opened an emergency shelter for the city's homeless. and they are also lowering the

levels of dams. people here telling us, yes, they are nervous. they're keeping an eye to the sky. here's what one business owner had to say. i notice you have sandbags in front of your door. >> yeah, any time it's going to rain hard we prepare for it. we actually duct tape the bottoms to make sure no water comes in. >> reporter: so you've had a lot of experience with this? >> three weeks after we opened ten years ago we flooded all the way to the back three inches. was unprepared and not ready. we learned our lesson. >> another concern is potential high winds. the trees here have not lost their leaves yet, they're heavy. they could fall on power lines causing widespread power outages. officials have urged people to be prepared at home. check on your elderly neighbors. be prepared with food and water in case the power goes out and you need to tide yourself over for a couple days. so a lot of weather worries here, richard, in columbia. back to you. >> sarah, we talked two hours ago, any major change in the last two hours you saw? >> we were just actually down

the river that's been steadily rising, that is really the focus now. the focus has shifted in the last couple hours to this river. the crest is supposed to be 29 1/2 feet. that's supposed to happen some time monday. that would put it in the top ten historic crests within the last 100 years. you can understand why a lot of people very nervous about that and why those eyes shifting now from these flood prone areas and kind of the downtown shopping and entertainment districts down to those river banks. >> so important. very good point. thank you so much sarah dallof reporting for us in south carolina. the big question, will this continue, will it get better and when? let's go to knbc reporter shana mendiola. >> it's not impacting the land here, but we are seeing effects from it. this moisture is getting fetched up from a low pressure system right off to the west and it is driving a lot of this moisture into the carolinas. so it is like a conveyer belt of

moisture that we've been watching. very heavy rain along the coast especially for the carolinas. you can see it all the way up into tennessee even. the heaviest spot is along the coast of the carolinas and we'll continue to watch that for the next several days. historic rain event. a lot of rain here. they've got as much rain as they've gotten in months here in charleston, south carolina really looking at over 16 inches of rain in little river, south carolina right now. down to north myrtle beach they've got 16 inches of rain. we're just watching over a foot of rain for many areas. charleston the record there is about three and a half inches of rain. we've already got ten inches of rain on board. we've got more to come though, richard. we've got at least 12 more inches of rain possible in the heaviest spots that includes charleston. we're keeping an eye on this and more updates coming up. >> new york, new jersey also in the way here, right? >> yeah, we are looking at some rain, but not as heavy as it is in south carolina. so that's where we're keeping our eyes right now. >> thank you so much. meteorologist shanna mendiola

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donald trump speaking live in tennessee right now. let's stop in and listen for a little bit. >> trains go right through them and nobody gets off. nobody -- no, you go right into the united states. and then we send them all over the country. and we have all sorts of problems. now we have a problem with the migration. and i said, i mean, it's a horrible problem, the migration from syria and other places in my opinion so i'm asked the other day what do you do? a couple weeks ago i said, well, i guess on a humane basis you feel badly, right? you feel terrible. but over the last couple of weeks i've been watching and i say, wow, that's really something. because obama now wants to take in, listen to this one, they were talking about 3,000, then 5,000, then 10,000. that's a lot of people.

200,000. the new number is -- no, no, think of it. you know what 200,000? that's like an army. you know, when you get to -- so now i'm looking the other day d other people have noticed this too. and they're all men. it's like where are the women? now, not all, but there are mostly men, right? and they're also -- >> donald trump speaking there in franklin, tennessee, near nashville. let's get into some of the issues he's talking about. one of course is immigration. and certainly the manner in which he's talking about katy glick, chris, democratic strategist and former chief of staff for senator joe manchin from west virginia, certainly the way he's talking about it and he's not backing away from his perspective on immigration and we'll start with that and move onto of course some of the other issues around what trump has been discussing as of late including what happened there in roseburg, oregon.

but let's start with that, katie. and his approach to talking about immigration not stepping back from the way that he's approached it. >> well, absolutely. what we were just looking at is, you know, another example of trump doubling down on some of the hard line rhetoric he's used with regard to immigrants, i think here specifically he was probably talking about refugees coming in from syria and elsewhere. but of course in talking about undocumented immigrants coming over from mexico, from latin america he's taken similar approaches in terms of saying we've got to be really careful about who comes in. and certainly that's language and policy positions that play very well with certain elements of the conservative base. and in fact that's been one of the driving issues of his campaign. >> you know, as we looked at this, joe, donald trump in recent interviews as you've probably seen saying, well, you know, i won't stick into this race if i'm not doing well. but i'm still looking pretty good in the latest polls.

pretty strong. but if things aren't looking good, i will step away. what did you take from that? >> i take away from that that he's not expecting to not do well. i think he's going to continue to expect to do well. and that's why you see him hammering home the points about immigration. that's what really got him to where he is leading in the polls nationally. and he knows that iowa and new hampshire are not that far off. he's been smart enough to hire people so he has ground game now in iowa and new hampshire. so it's not just, you know, rhetoric. it's not just folks out there. he knows who his supporters are and he wants to make sure they're confirmed and solidly behind him. so he's going to continue to hammer home this issue and try to retain that lead. >> as he's trying to retain that lead here, chris, and you look at jeb bush as well as marco rubio, is there a bit of an opening right now as they start to go at it that they might start -- that they are beginning to resonate at least when we look at their recent statements, they're starting to resonate as they go up against donald trump? >> you know, if you look at the

republican primaries the last few cycles, they tend to have this love affair with kind of the more outspoken, if you will, outrageous candidates, and then they start coming back to at least some sense and what they think is reason to elect someone who they believe is more electable. donald trump may be a little bit different in this situation, i'm not sure. i think he's probably hit a max in terms of his top level of support. but that might be enough to kind of carry him through. the problem i think the republican party's having when you look at the establishment side, rubio, i think is doing fairly well. but still in single digits depending on the poll you look at. jeb bush is really struggling. and i wonder whether he's even going to be around come february and march. >> dana, as you probably all three know he'll eat his newspaper if donald trump becomes the nominee. any of the three of you going to stand up and say you'll do the

same? >> at one time i would have said that wasn't going to happen, he wouldn't be the nominee. but the closer we get to iowa and new hampshire and the longer he's able to retain these strong standings in the polls, you know, the more i'm saying, you know, donald trump could be the party's nominee. he'd be a very, very different kind of nominee for the republican party. >> what i will say and i cannot believe i may say this because i may rude the day, but the reality is if you look at the way republicans elect their nominee, it is not like the democratic system. and if yee is able to survive this until super tuesday and you still have a lot of candidates in this race, he will be able to pick up significant number of delegates even though he may tap out at 20% in that given state. so i think republicans have got to be a little bit nervous to say the least. they've got to beat him if they want to stop him in these first two or three primaries. and if they don't they better

come to the realization he's going to be the nominee. that is a nightmare for them. he cannot win the presidency. it is impossible to believe. >> chris, i thought you were going to make some sort of pledge, but you did not. >> i'm not that crazy. >> hence my laugh and my chuckle at that moment. something much more serious here and this has certainly become part of the responses that all the candidates have had to react to. and that is with what happened in oregon. i want to play just a little bit of what has been said recently. we don't have that. but the responses from the candidates were that they do not believe gun control would have been the solution. and this came from a whole host of different republican candidates. we have that tape now. let's take a listen. >> the reflexive reaction of the left is to say we need more gun laws. criminals don't follow gun laws. >> we always have this discussion about the particular weapon. we've got a human behavior problem. we've got a problem with uncivilized savages.

>> gun control only works for normal law-abiding citizens. doesn't work for crazies. >> i don't believe that gun control would stop this. i think they have very tough gun laws in that state. >> katie, what's your thought? will these stances resonate with their bases? >> well, looking this is one of those issues in many corners remains a litmus test. you talk to a lot of conservative activists who do require that their eventual nominee take a tough stance in terms of defending the second amendment. and so i think what you're seeing from all these republican candidates is certainly a reflection of that. you know you're seeing a lot of them, jeb bush as well made some news yesterday in terms of how he talked about it. but you see a lot of cautionary messages from these republican candidates saying, you know, let's not overreact, let's not have a government solution every time there's a tragedy. that's sort of their line of argument, which of course you

see a lot of pushback on that on the democratic side. >> joe, what's the best way for these candidates to handle this tragedy? >> i think to urge everybody to think about the families right now and to pray for their families. and to realize this is just a tragedy for this town where this happened. and then to figure out how we make sense of all this and what the path is. it's not just a matter of for or against gun control, but figuring out what the path is to making sure tragedies like this don't continue to happen. and that's what they've got to address. how do we stop this from happening going forward? >> and, chris, if there were to be a response to the way that republicans are responding to this, what might the democrats do? what is in their best interest in responding to the republicans' response? >> i think if you look at both the national polls and i think with the feeling of most i think reasonable americans is that

when you're talking about common sense gun control i think most people realize we have to have stronger background checks and limit the ability of individuals who are clearly disturbed from getting these guns. the republicans i think are trapped by a base that it is an all or nothing argument. either you accept and support the second amendment unequivocally. and if you do not, you are no longer considered a viable candidate. and that is a problem for them. but in terms of where the american people are, and this is clearly going to be sadly enough clearly going to be a general election issue in 2016 because we're going to continue to have these shootings and these mass events. and that's a tragic statement until we, i think, realize as a country that we've got to do something about it. otherwise all we're going to do is feel really terrible when we see these headlines and try to move on. that is not a solution to a problem. >> katie, does it make it to 2016? >> well, you know, certainly in the last year we've already seen a number of really high profile

unfortunately tragically school shootings. so it does look to be an issue that's going to continue to stay in the spotlight. and certainly you are seeing prominent democrats making the argument that, you know, thoughts aren't enough. prayers aren't enough. we need to do something on this. at the same time you look at the realities of congress right now. it doesn't look like there's a whole lot of room for legislative activity. but certainly look for democratic candidates to be making these cases. and at the same time, you know, republicans are sticking to a very different sort of message. certainly an opportunity for some contrasting views there as we move deeper into the cycle. >> reverend joe, last word. >> well, let's pray for the families. and i know this is a contentious issue. we've got to figure out between us, democrats, republicans, how to fix it and make it work for families so we don't have anymore of these tragedies. >> thank you so much. great way to close it. joe watkins, appreciate it, chris and katie as well. ahead, major flooding, fears along the east coast. coming up, we'll take you to new

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straight from roseburg, oregon. and this is from family members of one of the survivors who's in the hospital right now. cheyenne fitzgerald. and this is what was said. >> she was shot through the back and it clipped her lung and got lodged in her kidney. >> so she's having lung problem with this also. >> she's jumpy, as you can imagine. when she hears a loud noise she's starting to really remember the events and what happened. she was asked what her religion was and didn't say anything. >> bonnie, how did you hear about this? how did you hear about cheyenne? >> i heard there was a shooting at the college. i grabbed my purse, keys and flew out of my job. i text my daughter, i'm on my way to school. but i never went there. i came here. and that is where i found my

daughter. >> she just had that mother's intuition. >> how far was i? oh, grateful. very, very grateful. yes. >> they've been amazing. >> did she know the shooter? >> not that we know of. >> no, she did not. >> bonnie, we've talked to a friend of cheyenne's, ana boylin. >> yes, her and ana were beside each other and they were talking to each other. and just telling each other, i guess, what i've heard, they told each other just don't move. yeah. >> play dead. >> the family credits your daughter for saving ana's life. >> oh. >> how does that make you feel? >> i know. that's my daughter. that's cheyenne. this might sound a little harsh.

what on a text message i seen on facebook that was sent somehow because she was able to keep her phone is the -- shot me in the back. that is a statement from my daughter. >> she text that to someone? >> she text that on facebook, yes. posted it. posted it. i was calling her, she wasn't calling me back. i knew something was wrong. so i just -- i came here. >> bonnie, when you got here, when was the first time you got to see cheyenne? and when did you learn the extent of her injuries? >> when i got here pretty much immediately. there was a lady, they tried -- i was calling my daughter's name out. i don't remember the lady's name. they were trying to get me calmed down. but my insides weren't doing

that so well. and then they finally took me into the emergency room where my daughter asked me if i would step out because she didn't want me to get -- be upset. she was at that time very strong. >> yes. >> and i can't believe this is where it's at. but i'm very thankful and i'm sorry for everybody in the community that do not have their children with them or lost their life. >> we would also like to thank the first responders. >> yes. >> and, you know, the staff here at the hospital. all the emergency room workers. everyone is going through their own internal emotions right now after having to deal with everything they've saw, with the things they've seen. we're just to thankful. >> a message for the well

wishers? >> cheyenne wants to sleep. she's not up in going at all. [ inaudible question ] >> why and how did it happen? why? [ inaudible question ] >> well, probably since this was just her fourth day of college, she's probably just trying to figure that out. >> she graduated roseburg high school? >> she completed a ged program. and she passed everything. she was accepted into ucc. in the nursing program. >> did she tell you guys anything about the shooter

handing a box or anything to someone? >> an envelope. and was told you're going to be the lucky one. and to go to the corner. and he told everybody else to go to the middle of the room and lay down, is what i heard. to somebody. that he was the lucky one. yes. [ inaudible question ] she obviously -- she was right there, you know. he called the one guy, gave him the envelope and told him to go to the corner of the classroom because obviously he was going to be the one that was going to be telling the story. >> i'm sorry.

make sure i have your proper -- >> you'll get that in a minute. >> thank you. >> was cheyenne on the ground when she was shot? >> from what we know. >> yes. and she had her phone in her hand and it's smashed. so i don't know if she was already laying on the ground or how it happened. i have not questioned my daughter about any of this. i can't bring myself to do it because i know when she's ready she will talk to me and tell me. and little bit she's starting to, you know, let out. but i don't want my daughter to be scared of a noise. this is very upsetting to me in this form. >> all we know is by the way the bullet went in it looks like it went in a downward -- like how it was from clipping her lung to

hitting her kidney. >> and then to her other organs. >> yeah. she was shot once. it went in through her -- >> right below her shoulder blade. >> -- shoulder blade. and through and clipped the lung and lodged in her kidney. which is why they had to remove her kidney. >> bonnie, what has hospital staff told you about recovery? when is she expected to be released? >> i haven't heard a release date. her recovery's going to be long. but we'll get there. yeah. >> she's still in icu. and in a lot of pain. >> we'd really like to get her go fund me page out there and into the media and anything that you guys can do to help us spread the word. you know, medical bills are going to be steep. and her family's having to take time off obviously to be with her. and we just think that everybody should be able to get the same.

>> what is the situation for that? >> she does have insurance, thankfully. >> yes. she does have insurance. double coverage. >> still difficult of course, yeah. >> there's still 20%. >> bonnie, does you or anyone else in your family know the other victims? the age ranges from 18 to 67. >> cheyenne was the youngest victim. >> did you personally know any of the other victims? >> anastasia and her are friends. they're related to steve and savannah fitzgerald. and they all hang and carpool together. and for some reason steven and savannah weren't in that class that day for just minutes. they must have passed the

gunman. [ inaudible question ] very. on her phone she facebook -- or message to me but also up and ready she was getting her cup of coffee and she was going. she was really excited. very excited. >> bonnie, you mentioned a little bit earlier you heard the news, you came straight over here. was that mother's intuition? >> totally. there's no other word. mother's intuition and by the grace of god. >> what are you thinking as you're driving over here? >> okay. i was texting my phone calling my daughter and i didn't care if the police was going to pull me over. i didn't stop. i just came. [ inaudible question ] pardon me? >> was your daughter in the same class as chris mintz?

>> yes. >> actually, we don't know the full story of how he got to the classroom. he was in the classroom or ran from another location. >> when he was shot he was in her class? >> or in the doorway. >> we're not sure. >> we're hearing different stories but we haven't really spoken to him so i don't think we should speak on his behalf. yeah. >> what was the subject of the classroom she was in? >> it was writing 115. >> law enforcement was saying the gunman might have been in that a class. >> that's what we've heard too. >> we've heard different stories from every person. >> no. i've never seen him. >> we're letting her come forward with her story about what happened that day as she wants to. we're not pressuring her to talk. >> we're letting her recover. >> you talked about her physical injuries. what about her mentally? >> that's what we're starting to worry about because one chair being moved set her off. and she's starting to talk.

she talked to her dad a little bit about it. she's mentioned to me about all the blood. >> luckily there's so many people here as resources for the families. she was just recently speaking to some people that are here for her for everyone that's going through this. so we're really feeling supported. very supported. thank you so much, everyone. >> thank you. >> actually, kathleen -- >> we've been listening to tape just from moments ago there at one of the locations one of the victims who is in icu at the moment cheyenne fitzgerald and her mother as well as family members they're describing the conversations they have had with cheyenne appears in the last couple of hours that cheyenne

was, again, in a nursing program there at ucc the community college where this tragedy happened in roseburg, oregon. and she's the youngest in the family and she was shot in the back in the icu. very difficult as you saw for the mother of cheyenne who was speaking most of the time there in the middle of the screen. if you're just joining us that's what we were listening to. that tape just coming in. also in the last hour more on roseburg, oregon and what we're learning. we got a statement and release from the oregon state police. the statement was provided by a spokesperson for the family. this again comes from the oregon state police. and i'll read it. again, this is from the spokesperson of the family there of the shooter. and i will read it. quote, we are shocked and deeply saddened by the horrific events that unfolded on thursday october 1st. our thoughts, our hearts and our prayers go out to all the families of those who died and

were injured. again, that is the statement there from the shooter, the suspect. and that was released by the oregon state police. we got that just within the last hour. i also want to share this with you that just came in from the oregon state police also within the last 20 minutes. and they are saying that this is an update again on the patients, those who were injured by the shooter. this statement saying condition of the three patients brought to peace health sacred heart medical center from umpqua community college in roseburg two are now in critical and one in fair condition. so i wanted to get that to you just as we got it in to us here at msnbc. but back out to roseburg and to jacob soboroff that's been reporting to us. we were listening to the statements from one of the families of one of the survivors cheyenne fitzgerald. >> that's right. the family members there

consistented of cheyenne's mother, cousins of cheyenne. it's extraordinary to hear about a 16-year-old that was enrolled locally in community college. of course as the family stated cheyenne's going to be giving her story in due time and on her terms. but, you know, clearly this is a very happy moment for the family to be able to come out and report back to the public that cheyenne is doing okay. >> jacob, you also have some new information on the suspect, the shooter. >> that's right. we just heard our team did here at the police station here, the police and fire station, that the shooter was actually pronounced dead at the scene, on the scene at umpqua community college. now, that contradicts some reports that are out there saying the shooter may have died in an ambulance on the way to the hospital. that's the first that we've heard of it. but it came directly from the fire chief marlar here in roseburg. >> tell me about what's happening tomorrow this on a sunday. i know there are vigils planned. >> there are individuvigils pla.

the community will continue to come together. we also know in addition to everything planned for tomorrow, monday universities here in oregon will be hosting vigils of their own. this is something that's not going to be a one or two-day event but it's going to stretch into the weekends ahead because classes as i said are not even going to open for another week after this coming monday. >> okay. thank you so much, jacob soboroff in roseburg, oregon rortdi i reporting on the ucc shooting. a severe round of storms is also what we're watching in other big stories today. slamming the united states east coast floodwaters have turned deadly and forced people from their homes. the wild weather being felt as far north as new jersey. what do you see there? it's a home -- or what was a home. a look at the hardest hit areas and what mother nature has planned next. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪

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deadly flooding. in the last hour the president issued an emergency declaration there. state says three people have died because of the weather since thursday. and the wind and water in new jersey also strong. a house in north wildwood collapsing straight into the water. that is what's left of it. joining us from charleston, south carolina, the weather channel's ron blum. how does it look there? >> richard, it's clearing a little bit right now which is unusual. it's been raining here off and on all week. the last 24 hours the official measurements are close to nine inches but in some areas ten-plus inches or more. here along the ashley river earlier today we had a record high tide, the highest high tide in 26 years since hurricane hugo. there was a bit of an overwash on the seawall pushing landscaping debris in the roadway and flooding streets. in fact, a lot of streets in charleston were so flooded today the city police closed access down into the historic peninsula. businesses that would have been crowded were absolutely shut down by it.

what we have seen this afternoon are some heavy bands coming across. but charleston itself is drained off pretty well. that was a big fear. they were calling it a one in thousand year flood. but north of charleston and inland 20 miles or so recorded 10 or 12 plus inches, we've heard of roads washed out, we heard of an animal shelter having to be evacuated so much flood water came through it. so this whole problem up and down the coast continues. and as the bands shift north that freight train of water is going to continue to pour into the carolinas and cause problems. the flooding isn't over. the rain isn't over. we're going to see this kind of moisture event continuing into tomorrow afternoon. right now in charleston though, a little bit of break and a lot of people are getting out and trying to enjoy it for a few minutes. richard. >> ron, thank you so much, my friend. let's get the latest on what's going on and what will be happen. knbc meteorologist shanna mendiola joining us. >> this is joaquin right now.

major hurricane almost category 5 strength. but right now we're putting it category 4 with winds from 155 miles per hour, just one more miles per hour you'll get up to category five, but it's turning off the coast and will not impact our weather as much as it will for everyone in south carolina. that's due to the fact that we have a cutoff low right over the panhandle of florida. it is fetching a lot of this moisture and heading it directly into the carolinas. they're going to see this rain for several days here up into tuesday. and that's where we're seeing the heaviest. again, we're seeing breaks from the rain right now. in charleston they are seeing a little bit of a break, but we're going to get this in waves. and that wave activity will continue for the next few days. again, we are looking at anywhere between six to 12 more inches on top of what already has fallen. here are the estimates right now for the forecast. we've got at least eight more inches expected in charleston for the next couple days. and i do think it may be more than that. looking at flood threats this will be your flash flood watches for much of the carolinas.

some of these will be lifted right before monday, but many of them will stay especially along the coast. charleston again major problems. we're talking about flooding on the roads and also on the streets, however we're looking at some coastal flooding as well due to a lot of the wind making its way along the coastline. so in new jersey, atlantic city all the way down to norfolk, virginia we are going to see days of strong northeast winds. and again, a little bit of flooding along the coastline. this is not over yet. we're keeping an eye all weekend on this and have all the updates. >> i was in boston yesterday and they were already feeling it there too, rain and lots of raindrops coming down there. shanna, thank you. coming up, we'll have the latest on the victims of the oregon shooting. a closer look at their lives and who they were. that's next. ive management can protect capital long term. active management can tap global insights. active management can take calculated risks. active management can seek to outperform.

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to take a closer look at the victims of the tragedy in low s roseburg, oregon. there were nine of them, lucero alcaraz described as sweet, selfless and innocent. quinn cooper, 18, was a funny, sweet, compassionate roseburg school graduate. lucas eibel, 18 of roseburg, was an animal lover who studied chemistry. the oregonian also describing jason johnson, 33 of winston, was turning his life around, they say. he recently earned his ged, completed drug rehab and began college for the first time. lawrence levine, 67 of clyde was teaching a class where the attack happened. sarena dawn moore 44 of myrtle creek was a church goer, animal lover. social media posts have showed that about her. treven was the son of a firefighter and college basketball player who was described as a quiet leader by a

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