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>> it was a terrifying experience fighting an unknown enemy. >> from rockefeller center in new york city this is "politics nation" with al sharpton. >> welcome to the very first sunday morning edition of "politics nation." there's no better place to start than with hillary clinton. first lady, senator, secretary of state, and now once again

presidential candidate. over the last few months her poll numbers have gone in the wrong direction. she now faces her surprising threat on left, another possible threat from the vice president, and a republican front-runner who's call her out by name. that was the backdrop for my sunday exclusive interview with secretary clinton here at rockefeller center. first of all, thank you for joining us. what will distinguish a hillary clinton presidency if elected from a barack obama president? >> i think where we are today is due in large measure to the tough decisions that president obama had to make. i really like to take people back through the history and point out that, when president obama took office, we were losing 800,000 jobs a month, and we could have literally fallen

into a great depression, not just a great recession. because of the hard work of the american people and the president's leadership we got out of that big ditch. we are standing again but now we have to build on what we've accomplished. we have to raise incomes. people are not seeing the results of that recovery in their pockets yet and that's something the president and i have talked about a lot. we have to continue and win the fight to raise the minimum wage because it's disgraceful the people that work full time in america are still in poverty. equal pay for equal work for women, we have to incentivize more profit sharing so the productivity that leads to profitability doesn't just all show up in the paychecks of ceos but is shared broadly and of course we have to continue the fight against climate change, create millions of new jobs from clean renewable energy and have an infrastructure program. i like an infrastructure bank that will put more people to work. we have a very robust agenda

that builds on top of layers on top of the progress that we have made under president obama and the worst thing that could happen to our country, in my opinion, is for the republicans to rip away that progress and to do a big u-turn back to trickle-down economics to slam the door in the face of hard working people, whether it's working women or minorities of any sort or the lgbt community, to basically begin to marginalize and you know, dismiss the contributions of so many of our fellow americans. >> in '08, president, now president obama then senator obama got 18 million votes. you did as well. what do you say to the 8 million that didn't vote for you in '08, why they should support hillary clinton now? >> well, they're come to me. the amount of support i have from people who supported then senator obama in my race against him in '08 and then others who

have been supporting him ever since is really very gratifying to me. people are appreciative of the work i did as secretary of state. they view the fact that i joined the cab in the as the senior cabinet member for my former opponent which i think is what you're supposed to do in our country was a very important statement of values about who we are and our democracy and how we get things done. i think the number of people both in my campaign and on the ground, around the country who are supporting me first and foremost supporters of president obama speaks very well to their understanding of how hard this job is and how they need to elect somebody, a democrat, who can build on the successes of the obama presidency, and that's what i am pledged to do. everywhere i go to speak around the country, i talk about the mess that president obama

inherited from his republican predecessors, not unlike although much worse than what my husband inherited from his republican predecessors and what i say is i'm not running for president obama's third term or bill clinton's third term. i'm running foye mire first term but i know what works and i know how important it is to stand up for our values, to stand up for our interests and our security in a way that makes sense which is smart. so people who have supported president obama are very enthusiastic and i'm grateful for that in support of my candidacy. >> the debates, the democratic debates s start on the 13th. how do you distinguish yourself from your opponent its, senator sanders and governor o'malley without the theatrics we've seen

on the republican side. >> i don't think there's any comparison between you and the democratic side and the republicans. all of the democrats are saying we want to continue to improve the lives of hard working americans. we have different ways of going about it, about how we want to make college affordable, how we're going to deal with the affordable care act. we have differences, and that's what the debate will be about, but what i want viewers and voters to understand is that the real challenges to the progress we've made are coming from the republican candidates, so whatever differences we have on the democratic side, which we will be exploring in the debate to give people a chance to make up their minds among us, it is really not at all the kind of gulf between us and the republicans. >> any surprises that we can look for in the debate? just between us. >> just between us, well, you

know, i don't know. you never know. i'm going to start kind of getting geared up and getting prepared. there are always surprises. you never know what you're going to be asked. you know that so well, and sometimes in the heat of the moment you might not know what you're going to say but i'm looking forward to it. i think it will be terrific for our campaign. >> there is always this looming question of whether vice president biden is going to enter. do you expect that he enters, and if he does, how will that, if at all, alter your strategy in terms of denomination? >> you know, i have said repeatedly that this is a very hard time for the vice president for all the obvious reasons any of us can understand, and he has to have the space and time to make up his mind about what he wants to do and i respect that. i don't comment on it. i want him to do whatever he thinks is right for him and his family. i'm going to run my campaign.

i'm going to keep rolling out my policies. i'm going to keep standing up to the republicans. i think they have really sort of showed their hand, they're really worried about running against me so they want to keep knocking me down. i kind of view that as a badge of respect actually, because they know that i will never give in to their, you know, very poor ideas about the economy or anything else. so i'm going to run my campaign and make my case to the american people. >> the fact that you are running and we are seeing different polls say different things, iowa, new hampshire, can you lose iowa and new hampshire and still win? is there a path? >> well that certainly has been the case in the past but i'm not going to lose. i'm going to work as hard as i can to make the case in the iowa caucus and new hampshire primary. people didn't think i could win

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we're back with more of my sunday exclusive interview with secretary clinton, including her thoughts about the republican front-runner donald trump. i'm going to say two words to you, donald trump. what do you think? >> oh, oh, you know, i think it's dangerous, his demagoguery is no longer amusing. >> he called you shrill. >> well he's called me a lot of things. now that he's running against me. before he called me a great senator and great secretary of state. that's what a demagogue does, say whatever they need to say to try to stir up the passions of people. so i hope that he is certainly

someone who people begin to evaluate more carefully, but i will add this. lot of what he has said has either been echoed or not repudiated by all of the other republicans. he may be the flamboyant front-runner, but his views on immigration, his views on women, his views on muslims, his views on a long list of issues are not that different from the either stated or unstated views of everybody on the republican side. >> jeb bush said in addressing an issue about why there weren't a lot of blacks at a particular gathering he was addressing, and he, among other things said, they were offered free stuff by democrats, how do you respond to that? >> you know, i find that so insulting, so demeaning and condescending, it's the kind of language we've heard not only from jeb bush, we heard it from

mitt romney. we're hearing it from donald trump. it's insulting in the most fundamental way because when we as democrats say we want equal pay for equal work, we want to raise the minimum wage, we want to make sure people get the best education they can, that college is affordable, that's to build people up. that's to give everybody a chance to be successful in america. there's nothing free about that. that's the way we're supposed to be working in our country, where we want people to live up to the god-given potential that they have, and for republicans to keep saying that, driving edges, dismissing the he will jlegitim aspirations, the talent and hard work of americans or anybody else in our country shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what america is and should be. it needs to be rejected. i don't hear any republicans reject it. i had a facebook q&a a few days ago. i was just outraged about it, and i'm outraged again when you

ask me. >> let me bring you back. when you were a u.s. senator, you and i and others worked in new york and a lot of cases that happened over the last year calling for police reform and calling for criminal justice reform. what would a president hillary clinton do to deal with t police reform question and to deal with the question that many of us are raising on how we have these matters looked at fairly and that families understand that they're getting a fair shot at justice? >> absolutely. you know, first speech i gave in this campaign was at former mayor dinkins' colloquiem at columbia university. i addressed systemic racism and failures of of our justice system, called for body cameras on every police officer, called for an end to mass

incarceration. i am continuing to talk about the issues and i this i that president obama's policing commission has a good set of recommendations that i would certainly urge that we follow and implement, but it's bigger than this, al. i mean, the real problems go to how we see each other, how we treat each other, whether we're going to get back into respecting one another and that's especially true web you have police who are protecting certain communities and they don't listen to the communities, they don't work with those communities. now, the communities also have to respect the police. we understand that, but the initiative needs to come from changing a lot of the incentives in policing, changing the way police officers are trained, how they work, and i think with the policing commission that president obama commissioned, we have good ideas on all of that, that shouldn't just sit on a shelf, we should be

implementing, and i think that to a great extent, the movement for black lives matter has been essential in raising up these issue, a new generation has come to the forefront. i've met with some of them, i've certainly been made aware of all the meetings my staff has been having with a lot of the advocates, because we have to restore fundamental faith in our democracy and equal treatment under the law, and we know that doesn't exist right now, and that's a rebuke to all of us, and i'm going to do everything i can to restore trust and confidence and respect by changing behaviors and by holding them accountable. we need to make sure that the civil rights division and the justice department is fully staffed and able to provide a clear look at any issue that needs to be revved to the federal government. >> president clinton, former

president clinton said at the naacp that when he did the crime bill the omni bus crime bill that maybe things went too far and i remember as you know i was active then. lot of people forget a lot of us wanted something hard because of bias and other things that were happening, crack, i was painting crack houses if you remember trying to expose them. how do we deal with violence without adding to the mass incarceration? what would be the clinton plan? we are seeing these shootings this week in chicago. >> right. >> i mean, we've got to deal with this without feeding into where it went "too far" in the words of former president clinton. >> both he and you are right. you remember what we were facing in the '80s and the early '90s, and people of color, poor communities, lots of towns and cities, including this great

city of new york, were under tremendous pressure because there was so much crime, gangs were warring in the streets, crack houses were indemic, crack babies were filling, you know, the wards of our hospitals, and so yes, we did have to take action, but let's remember some of the things that were done that we no longer do. we had a ban on assault weapons. i want us to get back to sensible, smart gun prevention of violence. i want us to have not just universal background checks but i want us to really have the country rise up against the special interests lobby of the nra that believes anybody should have a gun, regardless of their past history, regardless of whether they're domestic violence abuser. this is just unsustainable, and we need to stand against it and i'm willing to take them on, because i know that guns are at the root of so much of the crime and the danger that stalks our neighborhoods.

secondly, we do have to weed out the most violent offenders, the repeat offenders, the guys who have no regard for human life, but our prisons and jails are filled with people who have mental health challenges, people who have substance abuse challenges. they should not be in jail or prison. i want a much more robust diversionary program. i want us to do more on treatment. i may be the first presidential candidate at least in a long time who has a whole policy on substance abuse because this is at the root. so many people with anxiety, with depression, with other mental health problems, they self-medicate with alcohol and drugs, and oftentimes they get off track. we shouldn't punish them. we should help them. i also think that the police have to understand that a lot of what we tried to do back in the day, back in the '90s and the clinton administration was to build those relationships

between police and community, not to be in two separate camps but to be part of the same effort, to protect citizens, particularly the elderly, particularly the young, to have enough policing that people could feel safe, but not so much that it oppresses people and makes them feel that they are being singled out. this is a hard path to walk, but i know we can do it. we've learned lessons. we have a lot that we now know especially when it comes to imprisoning low level offenders is not necessary to prevent crime on the streets. let's focus on the bad actors that we don't want setting up crack houses again that you have to go and try to close or join dpan gangs that are so deadly people are dying across the streets in the country. >> thank you, senator. >> that went by fast. thanks again. good to be with you. >> thank you. you and i work together on sunday mornings usually in church. >> i'm glad you're doing this

early enough so people can watch before they go to church. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> secretary clinton talking about gun violence and just hours after our conversation, we saw the terrible massacre in oregon. president obama called for action. will his passion move the needle? stay with us. (wind noise) (road noise) what's happening here... is not normal, it's extraordinary. 291 people, 350 tons, 186 miles per hour... you're not sure what's on the other side to that time after you land. but momentum pushes you forward. you are a test pilot, breaking through where others broke. this is why you take off.

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south carolina is saying to stay home. there's flooding throughout the state. hundreds of rescues overnight and evacuations taking place. the worst of it now shifted north of charleston, the town of georgetown, water rescue taking place as we speak, water going into homes and this water goes back outside of columbia, one spot moonhall plantation report of over 24 inches of rain, two feet of rain in the last three days and it is going to continue all day long today, aymon. we have to watch the story carefully. >> thanks, bill. now back to "politics nation." and of course what's also routine is that somebody somewhere will comment and say obama politicized this issue. well this is something we should politicize. >> president obama visibly frustrated, calling for

congressional action after yet another mass shooting in america. this time at a community college in oregon, and as he predicted, some accused him of politicizing the issue. but the president challenged news organizations to compare the number of deaths by terrorism to deaths by gun violence. fox put together that chart and the results are striking. joining me now for our politics nation panel, sean willins, historian and professor at princeton university, amy holmes of "the blaze" and msnbc political analyst jonathan alter. thank you for being me. >> thanks for having me. >> nice to be here. >> the president seemed visibly upset and even angered to some degree. will that have an impact? >> i mean his anger alone won't

right away, not at all, but what he talked about, what was right is this is a political issue already. he's not politicizing anything. it's a political issue because it's how a powerful lobby distowarded this issue extraordinarily, stand in the way of common sense reform. what he was saying was look there's a mass of people who love to, they have guns, hunters, they're good people, they're good people but politicians have to do is to address them and say why are you letting yourself by hijacked by this group, by the nra. >> how do you draw the line, amy? i mean, at one level you've got to do something. at another level you've had a fierce fight on the right from everything from just identification. i mean, we can't keep going through these mass shootings without something happening. what are the republicans willing to do? >> well i think we have to understand the mechanisms of

mass shootings better, so for example mass shootings tend to happen in clusters that mass shooters almost say they're seeking fame, write manifestos talking about their vengeance against oppressive forces and many times their families know there's something wrong but don't have the tools, what do i do about this kid? >> what do legislator s do? >> what tools are available to families if they have someone in their family they're intensely worried about. mass shooters tend to it he he will graph their intentions, go to chat boards, tell one of their friends online with strangers. for people who see something, say something, but when you talk about the politics of this, remember that even when democrats controlled the senate and harry reid was majority leader the senate stalled on a lot of this legislation and harry reid himself has -- >> i'm saying right now four mass shootings -- >> one thing, can i --

>> what are republicans willing to do? >> culturally and i think the sheriff was powerful in his press conference is not to name the shooter, not to give them the fame that they're seeking, since we do know these angry, young maladjusted misfits are watching and being inspired. >> but jonathan, i'm still not hearing legislatively what the right is willing to do in terms of laws that can be put in place. >> they're not moving the legislation. the chair of the house judiciary committee has a bunch of bills in his committee he's bottling up, not moving them because he's not feeling the heat. the president is trying to turn up the heat. the problem is the conventional ways of thinking about this are not working in turning up the heat on our legislators so every time this happens we have a ritual, the president comforts the grieving, says we have to do something for gun safety and then a couple days later, everybody's on to the next

thing. i have a proposal in "the daily beast" that will strike some people as gimmicky but i hope people will consider it and that is that the president of the united states have a debate with the head of the national rifle association on national television. wayne lapierre, if he doesn't vnt to do it, maybe another big nra supporter. the press would love it, a buildup over a period of weeks, debate prep, who will moderate and sponsor. people say the president shouldn't lower himself to being on the stage with the odious head of the nra, that's to suggest the propriety of this and the president's feelings whatever are more important than the issue. i don't think barack obama believes that. time to try a new venue. this is a nation that only responds to drama on live television. this would get 20 million, 30 million, 40 million viewers and when obama cleaned the clock of the head of the nra, a lot of

those people watching might be motivated to write their congressman and get them to move on some of the common sense legislation. >> that's what i want, professor. i think what amy is saying and jonathan is saying has merit but once we get them to move, i'm an activist guy, i painted crack houses to expose them when the crack epidemic was going, as mrs. clinton said, i've been to chicago countless times, got an apartment there dealing with violence now. we're driving people to what, the democrats didn't do it, amy is right, when they had the majority. what are we going to drive, what is the legislative piece or pieces that we can get the senate and the congress to unite around in the wake of four mass shootings this year and 2,300 shootings of gun violence this year alone in chicago, and we're not even at the end of the year. >> that's right. well look, but the problem is there's plenty of solutions out there, all being sat on by

congressman goodlatt, plenty, background checks -- >> to what extent are they solutions in oregon tightened its gun laws and we still have this tragedy yesterday and the shooter got his guns legally versus -- >> wait a minute. >> don't do anything on terrorism. it's like saying don't check anybody at the airport. >> conflating issues. the shooter got guns legally. the criminals in chicago don't. >> here's the problem, because it does not, to me merit, give merit to the argument against background checks and other things because if you look at the facts, 57% of the guns in chicago are bought outside of illinois. 18% are bought in indiana. if you had background checks nationally it would be more difficult to get guns in chicago, because you couldn't get them -- >> federally listened dealers have to have their purchasers go through federal background.

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does donald trump have a second act? the latest polls show him still ahead, but his support seems to be leveling off. so now we're seeing a different side of trump. he talked about the bible on the christian broadcasting network. >> there's so many brilliant things in the bible, and you can read it over and many people have done this and led their life that way but you can read it hundreds and hundreds of times. the bible, the more you see it, the more you read it, the more incredible it is. >> trump also showing himself as a family man, doing an interview with "people" magazine with his wife speaking to the press for the first time since his campaign began. trump also tweeted how he is happy he is about to become a grandfather again in the spring. and one more side of trump on display this week, the policy

wonk. >> well one thing we're doing is we're getting ready of the interest which gives hedge fund guys on wall street a tremendous advantage, making hundreds of millions of dollars and paying little tax and i think it's very unfair. >> coming up, can donald trump change his tone without his supporters tuning him out? the "politics nation" panel is next. it doesn't even fly. we build it in classrooms and exhibit halls, mentoring tomorrow's innovators. we build it raising roofs, preserving habitats and serving america's veterans. every day, thousands of boeing volunteers help make their communities the best they can be. building something better for all of us.

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personal. when i talk about the bible it's personal. proverbs the chapter never been to envy i've had that thing all of my life where people are bending to envy, and they're just, actually it's an incredible book. >> so he goes from i don't want to quote scriptures to proverbs all my life. >> it's a terrific book. >> four stars for the bible. >> is this part of the second act? >> i still think he's on his first act. look he's still the front-runner out there. he hasn't slipped tremendously at all. he's there because a lot of the republican base is very, very angry at the republican establishment. if you can see that by jeb bush's numbers which have not gotten really good, he is still out there, still going to be the focus of that for a long time to come and so i think talking about first act, second acts we're still in act one with donald trump. >> but amy, can he do this

softening though, quoting proverbs, not being as bombastic, showing his family and tweeting about his coming grandchildren, and keep that base that the professor is referring to, because they're angry. how does he find the balance to be more mellow as the front-runner and yet still capture that anger of apparently of the base that he's appealing to? >> as a political observer, i don't want him to be kinder and gentler. i like the bombastic trump, certainly a lot more fun to talk about. trump supporters are not ideologically driven. they like trump the character. i think he's just rounding out this character, whether or not they find it believable, that's another thing, but donald trump the family man, hey, why not? write that chapter, too. >> but the outsiders are the candidates catching fire, not only trump but carson, fiorina.

what does that say, jonathan? >> people are mad as hell at the political establishment. the problem is the outsiders are also, especially trump, being powered by their entertainment value and if he, you know, gets too nice and cuddly he'll get boring and lose whatever it is that people think is funny and amusing and fun about him, which is his insult humor. he's in a little bit of a find but gaffe proof for the 20%, 15%, whatever it is, they will never abandon him as long as he's in the race. he could say anything. he could hang his behind out macy's window and they'd still vote for him because he's their guy, so he's now at a point where he does have a solid base. the question is how big it is. >> at the same time, though, jeb bush is down in single digits, the polling is alarming. look at the polling. donald trump 23%.

marco rubio 9%, jeb bush 8%. >> jeb bush is the republican establishment, that's why he's doing so poorly. it's not just entertainment value. donald trump stands for something, he touched that nerve from the beginning with immigration. that was his big issue. that is the way the republican party has gone so people are not going to forget that because he's talking about his grandchildren. they remember he wants to build that wall. that's what he's all about. >> if he wins the nomination, can he win the general election? if he's the nominee on the republican side, can you bring that act to the main stage? >> what do you think could donald trump win in a general election, going back to his supporters they've been polled and they're across the ideological spectrum and the number one characteristic that they say that they like most and they ascribe to donald trump is

strength. it's speaking his mind and being as you say bombastic, the kinder, gentler thing maybe heightens the drama, if we're going through this story line and you turn the next corner, there he is insulting megyn kelly again. >> i don't think can he win. debris with amy that strength is his key calling card but in a general election, if you don't get at least 40% of the latino vote, it's really hard the way our electoral college is set up to win a general election if you're a republican and you can't get 40%, and i don't see how he does. he has jorge ramos, the walter cronkite tom brokaw of that world determined to wreck his candidacy at any price, every night. the idea of trump as the nominee, and he can be the nominee, that's very plausible, but the idea of him getting up to 40% or 45% of the latino vote which he would need to be elected president i think is close to impossible. >> well, let me hold you here,

thank you to my panel. sean willenz and aimy holmes and jonathan alter, thank you for joining me this morning. ahead her fight for peace won her a nobel prize. then came ebola and a new challen challenge, africa's first female elected head of state, the president of liberia. ♪ ♪ ♪ (vo) making the most out of every mile. that's why i got a subaru impreza. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.

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finally an exclusive interview with an historic figure, africa's first female elected head of state, in the last decade she's helped rebuild a war-torn nation and led the fight against ebola. this week, she was in new york for the u.n. general assembly, and i spoke with her about africa's past and future. >> africa is on the rise today. >> liberia was founded in 1847 by freed slaves from america. capital monrovia is named after america's fifth president, james

monroe. >> we feel that we have a special relationship, an historical and traditional relationship, and we feel that that makes or should make liberia special to american interests, to american support. >> in the 1990s, civil war ravaged liberia, a warlord came. out of the chaos came a peace movement, and then 2005, ellen johnson sirleaf, a harvard educated economist, was elected president. in 2011, she was awarded the nobel peace prize. >> this award belongs to the people whose aspirations we have the privilege to represent and whose rights we have the obligation to defend. >> has the movement toward democracies, the democratization

of africa made a lot of progress, let's put it that way? you've certainly done that in liberia. are we seeing that enough around the continent that still has had dictatorships and monarchies? >> absolutely, al. i tell you, if you look at the record of africa, you would not have believed it possible to have the democracy that we have today. the strong arm is over in africa. there are places where it's going to be difficult to get that, but for the majority of countries, peaceful transition of power, people's choice through free and fair elections. >> in the years after her election, liberia seemed on a path to recovery, then disaster.

>> the ebola crisis this morning getting a clearer picture how devastating the situation in west africa is. >> ebola eventually killed nearly 5,000 people in liberia. >> it was just terrible. it's a terrifying experience. fighting an unseen enemy who you don't know we have the confidence that we've now built the capability to deal with it. we've got an effective response to it, but we're not free yet. the trauma is still there. >> today, president sirleaf is focused on her country's economy and the education of women. >> the world is changing, certainly liberia has changed, and today the women have rights that it didn't have before. women are vying for positions, leadership positions at all levels in societies. perhaps more importantly, everyone's encouraging the girls

to go to school, to get an education. >> you talked about progress in africa. how important is it to see women heads of state? we have two women running this year in the united states. i'm not going to ask you to endorse one, but in fact one is on the show today. how important is it for young girls to see women as head of state, wherever it is, as you have done in liberia? >> it's important for every country to have a woman head of state, no matter how small, or how large. the time has come for that. liberia is the head of it. time for every other country, america included. >> a powerful woman and a turning point for her nation and her continent. that does it for me. i'm glad you could be here for the first sunday morning edition

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