being done at a flooded out location in south carolina. almost 400 roads and 165 bridges are closed in that state. rescuers have been going door to door all morning long looking for are those trapped in their homes. hundreds have already been rescued from the rushing waters. civilians even joining firefighters to form a human chain to rescue one man who was trapped. more than 1,000 troops from the national guard are helping with the search this morning using helicopters, including in this incident where a mother and her 15-month-old daughter were plucked from the roof of their home yesterday. residents appear to be shell-shocked after four days of torrential rains. >> cars are submerged. cars washed up against the porch and everything. never seen anything like it. >> we have lost everything. what i got on my body is what we have. pretty much everything down that hill there has lost everything this morning. our vehicles, our clothes, our

everything. >> msnbc's sarah dallof joins me from columbia, south carolina where it was raining earlier today and we see the circumstances behind you. talk about this plan to evacuate possibly as many as five hospitals. >> reporter: right now it is all about hygiene. at least five hospitals reporting lack of clean water and low water pressure. two of these hospitals have contingency plans in place to move patients via bus and vehicle. they are waiting to pull the trigger on that. right now firefighters are working to get fresh water to these hospitals, keep them running as long as possible or until the water can be re-established and can be deemed safe. a lot of people here in columbia do not have access to running water right now. some of that being re-established. the entire city under a boil water advisory, however, right now. also a curfew in place from 6:00

p.m. in the evening until 6:00 a.m. still thousands without power. it really gives you an idea of the lpgaitude magnitude of this here. several people in south carolina are dead. the rain has stopped for the moment, but look behind me at the rivers. some of them expected to break record flood stages. you can see a power pole and power line in the water. a washed out road there. just some example of the extent of the disaster here. right now the word is please stay home if you don't have to go out. we've got schools closed, city offices closed and just this plea for people to stay out of the roads as emergency workers continue to go door to door. they have a task force of about 60 people going door to door right now looking for anyone trapped. also some volunteers out there who spoke to us about what they've seen over the past two

days. >> cars floating by, trash, debris and it is really not a safe play to be right now. >> you ever seen anything like this before? >> not this. this has been a lot of water. >> pretty extreme. >> yes, ma'am. >> the governor expected to hold a press conference in about 30 minutes updating the latest on the situation. but here on the ground, tamron, we can tell you it is rough going with more rain on the way. no sign of a break in the next few hours. >> sarah, thank you. msnbc meteorologist bill karins joins us with the latest on the forecast. bill, obviously focusing on south carolina but we have two fatalities at least in north carolina. >> southern north carolina was hit very hard at the beginning of the storm and are being hit the hardest at the end of the storm to the willmington and myrtle beach areas. they picked up another one to three inches. there are evacuations and

firefighters and boats getting some people out of the myrtle beach area. back west things are drying out. storms are moving to your north. this is our rainfall estimates for the entire storm. tells us how much rain has fallen. the area near columbia -- this all came in about one night, nearly 20 inches of rain just to the east side of columbia. this little pink color in here, 16 inches. still flash flood warnings for this area. they are worried about the black are in. kingstree has been evacuated. they had 20 inches of rain total plus the river water from upstream is coming through so they're telling every wrun to get out of there in a hurry. as far as the forecast we should be watching this flood watch dissipate later tonight hopefully tonight flash flood warnings will be ending by this evening. the highest total we could find anywhere, 26.88 inches of rain.

that's incredible! widespread 10 to 20-inch totals from columbia south wards down to the coast especially. now we are done with the coastal flooding which left millions of dollar in damage from the jersey shore all the way down the carolinas. now we're dealing with the flash flooding. river flooding will last though until at least wednesday or thursday of this week. thank you, bill. i'm joined by the mayor of south carolina, stephen benjamin. mayor, thank you for your time. it is incredibly difficult to process. outside of the obviously important loss of life number, you have 400 roads closed, 165 bridges there. countless number of people without power. how do you prioritize at this point? where is your focus? >> well, i tell you, tamron, this is a 1,000-year event, indeed. we are however working together very closely. local officials, state officials and federal officials making

sure that we focus on the number one priority and that's the preservation of human life. everything else is secondary. i will tell you to see the way the community's coming together to make sure that we keep our people safe. we just sent out three teams of firefighters, local police officers an sheriff's deputies going house to house checking, making sure no one's stranded in various parts of town. yes, our infrastructure is xrom mi compromised. water, sewer, roads. worried about some of our bridges. best thing is if you have power around water, stay home. we are making sure potable water is being delivered across the entire city. working closely with hospitals and university of south carolina. everyone's working together. but it is going to get worse before it gets better. we know that. when it finally does stop raining and the floods recede, then we have to deal with all the incredible amounts of property damage which i'm sure will total into the billions.

we got a lot of work to do but we're doing it together. >> we know that you have the boil water order in place. curfew from 6:00 p.m. until 6:00 a.m. there is a plan to possibly evacuate hospitals there. tell me where things stand with that right now. >> yes, we do have a boil water advisory in effect. that continues. so everyone who's receiving water on our extensive system, if you run it out pipe to pipe will extend from the atlantic all the way to the pacific. everyone needs to boil water. the curfew was from 6:00 p.m. last night until 6:00 a.m. this morning. it is just to keep people off the streets. it is amazing how many people do want to go out and just see what's happening. if they come out, they fine themselves in some perilous situations, floods, sinkholes, whatever it happens to be, we divert resources of first responders away from where they need to be right now. so we want people off the street. it is a high likelihood that i'll call for another curfew

tonight but we'll see. we will take it one hour at a time. hospitals -- we've spent last night on the phone until of a midnight with one of the presidents of our local hospitals. we met with him again this morning. we remain constantly engaged. our firefighters delivered over 55,000 gallons to two of our hospitals downtown last night, keeping them up and running. but we have to make sure that while we're meeting the needs of our citizens who are in our hospital facilities, we have to make sure we are doing what's sustainable. we've been able to deliver water -- re-establish water service in various parts of town. we will continue doing that. but want to make sure everyone understands that again it is going to get worse before it gets better, but we're all working together to make sure we manage through this thousand-year event as best we can. >> mayor, our thoughts are with you, of course, and everyone in that community. rescues continue in west columbia, specifically fema is

now on the ground in columbia as well offering support for victims. we will of course keep following this throughout the day but our thoughts are with you in that community and the entire state. thank you very much, mayor. we'll have an update later from governor nikki haley. later this hour we'll get a new update from the governor. that's coming up at 11:30 eastern time on msnbc. now to breaking news. the coast guard just announced that the missing container ship "el faro" sank to the bottom of the ocean during hurricane joaquin. that yuz conews coming in about hour ago. the search is no longer on finding the ship and is now focused on finding any survivors. shortly before the ship went missing last thursday, second mate danielle randolph sent an e-mail to her mother. >> not sure if you've been following the weather at all but there is a hurricane out here and we are heading straight into it. winds are super bad and seas are not great. love to everyone.

>> nbc's kristen dahlgren is in jacksonville, florida with the latest. obviously no you the search is on for survivors but you still have this investigation and many wonder about the decision made with so much information available regarding joaquin and its path. >> reporter: absolutely. the company that owns the ship is standing behind its captain saying he had a ton of experience and at the time when they left here in jacksonville on tuesday it was a tropical storm. it did blow up very quickly and they are maintaining that the problem is that the ship lost its forward propulsion and wasn't able to evade the storm as all as the storm was coming by. but really difficult to hear that e-mail to a mother. the question now becomes could there be any survivors. a few things from the coast guard really stood out today when they were speaking just a little while ago. they said if they had abandoned ship, they would have done it into a category 4 hurricane. 140-mile-per-hour winds.

50-foot seas. and visibility of zero. so really tough conditions out there. what they have found, one of the life boats. there were two life boats. there were also life rafts. but one of the life boats that they found badly battered. they also have now found a victim in a survival suit. not to be too grim, but they say that that person was unrecognizable. so they went through terrible, terrible conditions. that said, the coast guard also said we are not going to discount someone's will to survive. i've been talking with the families. that's what they're saying, too. these are highly trained people. they are strong people. and their families still believe that somehow they are out there, the coast guard continues to search today, tamron. >> thank you very much. now to another breaking news story right now -- the top u.s. commander in afghanistan now acknowledges a u.s. air strike saturday accidentally struck civilians in the northern city

where afghan forces had been battling the taliban. general john campbell did not say specifically what was hit but doctors without borders says it was its hospital that was hit and that 22 people were killed, including staff and patients. >> we have now learned that on october 3rd, afghan forces advised that they were taking fire from enemy positions and asked for air support from u.s. forces. an air strike was then called to eliminate the taliban threat and several civilians were accidentally struck. this is different from the initial reports which indicated that u.s. forces were threatened and that the air strike was called on their behalf. as has been reported, i have ordered a thorough investigation into this tragic incident and the investigation is ongoing. >> doctors without borders is calling the attack a "war crime" and is demanding an independent investigation. nbc news be pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski was at this morning's briefing by general campbell, he joins us now live.

one thing of note is that the general did not name the specific facility that doctors without borders says was its hospital and that it was very clear and noted to those within the area. >> at the same time, no u.s. military officials are denying that that hospital was struck by a u.s. military air strike. however, as general campbell tried to clarify an earlier report that u.s. special forces in the area came under the threat of an attack and that's why this air strike was launched. he now says that it was afghan forces that relaid the information to those special forces who then ordered the air strike by an ac-130 gunship. but that raises all sorts of serious questions. general campbell would not answer them because he said it is all still under investigation. but did those special operations forces, the americans, rely entirely on the information from the afghan soldiers to launch

their air strike? now an ac-130 can linger over a target. it's heavily armed, it's even got an artillery piece on board. they are a killing machine. but they've got enough time to look and see if there was fire coming from that hospital. did they take the time to determine that or did they just move in and launch an air strike because of the coordinates that were provided them by the afghan forces? all questions that will remain -- that remain to be answered and general campbell will surely get a grilling on this tomorrow before the senate armed services committee, a public hearing up there on capitol hill. >> thank you. coming up, hillary clinton unveils her gun control proposal in the wake of the deadly shooting at the community college in oregon. >> we need universal background checks. we know that they will work. we need to close the gun show loophole. >> we'll give you more details from her plan. plus, our gut check question

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just getting this in to msnbc. some breaking news. vermont state police confirm an amtrak train has derailed in northfield, vermont, just 50 miles southeast of the city of burlington. in your nbc affiliate wptz reports first responders have indicated that several cars derailed. this happened about 10:30 eastern time. state police and our local affiliate on their way to that scene. we'll bring you the latest as we get new information in. but right now several cars have derailed. an amtrak train near burlington, vermont in northfield, vermont. we're working to get as much information as we can on this accident. turning now to politics. hillary clinton unveiled her gun control proposal this morning in the wake of last week's mass shooting in roseburg, oregon. the plan includes a promise to use executive action to close

the so-called gun show loophole should she become president. clinton revealed details as part of a town hall event this morning in new hampshire. >> universal background collection. we know that they will work. we need to close the gun show loophole. i think it's 40% or so of the gun sales in america are done online. they're done at gun slows. they're done by people selling out of the back of their cars basically. >> clinton's gun plan comes even amid new signs that she's losing ground to bernie sanders. according to our new nbc/"wall street journal" marist poll, sanders now outperforms clinton in general election match-ups against republicans in both iowa and new hampshire. sanders is also closing the money gap with clinton and over the weekend more than 20,000 people turned out to hear him speak at a rally in boston. "the boston globe" reports that it's the largest rally for a presidential primary candidate

in recent massachusetts history. doubling the 10,000 people barack obama drew to boston common back in 2008. >> how does it happen that you can raise all kinds of money when 99% of your contributions are $100 or less? it is a grassroots campaign designed not only to elect someone to be president of the united states, but to build a political movement. >> let's bring in our political panel, roger simon, and matt schlapp. thanks for joining us. roger, start with you. this town hall this morning, there was a lot of news there, but start with bernie sanders and this momentum that he's received there. i was talking with a hillary

clinton supporter this morning and he almost just stammered. was nearly speechless when i said what about bernie sanders at this point because of this crowd and an undeniable feeling now that bernie sanders is not just a one-off. >> crowds can be bought. you pay people, you put them on a bus, you take them to the site. but bernie sanders doesn't have the innin' to buy crowds so there is the feeling that bernie sanders' crowds are for real and they are important. and he is attracting very large numbers of people. his campaign is smart enough to get those people's names and internet addresses before they leave. and he gives a pretty good speech. people go away from those speeches energized. >> people can buy crowds and some think that polls these days are up for grabs. but i believe the nbc news/"wall

street journal" is legit. here sanders is leading clinton by nine points in new hampshire. when vice president joe biden is included as an option in that poll, sanders' lead jumps to 14 points. in iowa, hillary clinton leads sanders by 11 points. but when vice president joe biden is included, her lead over sanders in iowa falls to five points, roger. >> i believe it was written long ago that hillary clinton loses iowa and new hampshire, both, she is in very serious trouble. and in fact if she just loses one of them she's in a certain amount of trouble. bernie sanders is doing too well from her campaign's point of view and if the vice president gets in this race, everything gets reshuffled. we start at zero. we look at those first polls and we're going to see what happens.

>> matt, a lot of what we've seen as far as the slip for hillary clinton has to do with what people see as a credibility problem. some of that with this e-mail server situation and questions still about benghazi. with that said we know what happened with be kevin mccarthy and in his admission that the hearing was, in part, to knock her down in the polls. this morning on town hall on the "today" show, she had know opportunity to really hit republicans hard on this. let's play it. >> this committee was set up as they have admitted for the purpose of making a partisan political issue out of the deaths of four americans. i would have never done that and if i were president and there were republicans or dams who were thinking about that, i would have done everything to shut it down. >> that was fire. i mean that was true passion and if the bernie sanders anger, the donald trump anger is what attracts people, the hillary clinton anger seen there seemed authentic and would definitely motivate those independent voters who are on the fence

about her, matt. >> well, look. she's exploiting this opportunity by this misstatement from kevin mccarthy and she's smart to go out there aggressively. but she doesn't really have a republican problem, tamron. she has a big old democratic problem. she has the vice president of the united states leaning very hard into getting into this race and there's a lot of rumors out there that he's actually going to get into the race. democrats have lost confidence in her as their front-runner. so it is not nreally a republicn problem. bernie sanders does have the money to buy these crowds. he raised a comparable amount of money to hillary clinton in this last quarter. everything out there is turning against her. what she needs to do is exactly what she's doing, talk about issues that the base of her party cares about and go out there and give it all she's got and show people who she is. she needs to stop hiding behind these rope lines. she needs to get out there and mix it up. >> i think we saw her do that with this town hall. she's got two in new hampshire. she was on "snl." you say she doesn't have a

republican problem but she could have a republican solution if members of your party continue to follow the way of kevin mccarthy and as we now know, speak at least his version of the truth. >> tamron, she does not have -- that is just wrong. if you look at polls, it is independents, democrats, and yes, republicans. people don't think she's trustworthy. she has a huge credibility problem. she can solve the problem herself but it is not republicans she has a problem with. it is her own stupid campaign that's being poorly run and -- >> going back to mccarthy's statement, he said if we could bring up this committee it would ding her in the polls. he wasn't referring to republican voters there because we know that people are engaged on both sides -- let me finish -- a credibility problem can exist as a result of questions that have been repeatedly brought up by republican lawmakers. >> okay. so if you look at benghazi, i don't think there are democrats out there that are upset -- let

me just say it this way. democrats out there are not going to fall into some kind of republican plan to hurt hillary clinton. if you look at these numbers and look at the polls, she has a credibility problem with democrats and independents. yes, of course she has a problem with republicans. but she has a problem with her own people that are going to be voting in these primaries. she has a problem with the vice president of the united states who wants to run against her. she needs to focus on that problem. yes, republicans are a great foil and she should use them but that's not really what her problem is now. >> i was speaking of republicans. turning now to that side of the race, donald trump's lead in the key early states of iowa and new hampshire is shrinking. that according to the same poll, the nbc news/"wall street journal"/marist poll. ben carson has cut trump's lead in iowa to just five points. carly fiorina is up ten. on "meet the press" yesterday donald trump said he'll quit the race if he starts falling far hyped other candidates in those numbers. >> how many elections do you see where the polls were wrong? not that many.

okay. you see them, but not that many. if i were doing poorly, if i saw myself going down, if you would stop calling me because you no longer have any interest in trump because he has no chance -- i'd go ba being to my business. i have no problem with that. >> so, matt, as chuck todd pointed out on "meet the press," donald trump may be slipping but he's still in the lead. it is the second and third spots where we're seeing the fluctuation. >> you know, tamron, it's why he's such an interesting candidate. those answers he just gave. he's talking about maybe exiting the race if his polls aren't doing well. if he had a bunch of advisors, they'd all be pulling their hair out because you never want to say something like that. but he just says it like he feels. i think he feels like if he with a is doing poorly in the polls, really poorly, he probably would just get out. fact is he's about in same range he's been at since he's gotten into this race. he probably can't get much higher but he doesn't seem to be dropping and most of the political prognosticators are completely confused by that. >> someone that's considered an

outsider, carly fiorina is having trouble of her own this morning. washington is s"washington postt in her senate bid in 2010 she did not pay some of her staffers. the report says more than 30 invoices totaling $500,000, that the multi-millionaire did not settle even as fiorina reimbursed herself. she finally cleared most of the balance in january but it was a few months before announcing her run for president. i think a lot of people will also think about her time as a ceo when people were losing their jobs, but as was reported, she was acquiring a new boat, new house, et cetera, et cetera. >> what matt was talking about a few seconds ago was the things that hillary lacks. the things that hillary has is the republican field.

that's her big benefit. that's her big boost. look at the top three people in the republican feel -- trump, carson, fiorina. tell me seriously which one of those people is going to win the presidency? which one of those people can you imagine sitting behind the desk in the oval office with their hands on the nuclear button taking care of the complex issues which faces the united states? it is far -- the republican field is unsettled. they are attacking one another. there's the real question on whether one of those top three actually manages to get the nomination that the party will coalesce behind them. >> they will. >> even if it's donald trump? >> absolutely. look, i think roger, no offense, but this is exactly -- people like you and me are exactly the people out in the country, republicans who are going to vote in these primaries. that's who they're tired of hearing from on these things.

they actually want to try someone new. they actually think hillary clinton's maybe been around a little too long. they want to try someone new. i think that's the spirit of what's going on. as far as carly fiorina's concerned, she paid all these bills. it is a done deal. and i don't know why "the washington post" is bringing it back up. it is all paid. >> to your point of wanting someone new, is that why we're still seeing this lag with jeb bush? >> there is no question, if jeb bush is to capture the spirit of what's going on on the republican side, he has to talk about his conservative record in florida. he's never spent one day in washington as an elected official. that accrues to his benefit in this field. >> going back quickly to this carly fiorina report, as someone who's establishing an identity with voters, she is moving up in the polls but as we very well know she has a lot of introduction that still needs to be done. when you have a major headline in the "washington post" -- again, no one believes they lean left -- that says she went without paying these bills. just january this balance was cleared, a few months before announcing her run for

president. according to the "post," she paid herself nearly $1.3 million, and you shrug that off? >> no, i don't shrug it off. i'm just letting you know she left that campaign putting millions of her personal resources into it. she paid everybody she owed a bill to and so it is resolved. your question should she have paid it sooner? you should bring it up with her. >> we would love to bring it up. but i'm asking as we discuss the credibility problem of one candidate, here's a person who doesn't have a huge name i.d. -- >> hillary clinton stole furniture from the white house -- >> you're actually going to -- >> this is what the republicans have to go op. stolen furniture. >> she took it! she had to return it. >> i'm sure you will look back at what you just said and you're going to think to yourself, why did you go there. >> go look it up. >> we were having a legitimate conversation about a news report that you could simply respond to but we'll have you back on. >> it was in "the washington

post." >> i've got to move on to the breaking news we are reporting out of vermont. up next we have more details coming in to us regarding the amtrak train that derailed the train, number 55. it derailed in the city of northfield. that's some of the images -- these are the images we're getting in right now. local fire officials tell us four people were injured in this accident after two cars of the train went over an embankment. no fatalities have been reported so far. right now it is unclear what caused this amtrak train to derail. we'll continue to follow the very latest and get you more information. but again our first images now coming in to msnbc, amtrak train number 55 derailed in northfield, about 50 miles from burlington, vermont. so far no fatalities reported. there are a few injuries but we're working to get more information as to how this played out and what happened there. any moment, we'll get a new update from south carolina on the rescue and recovery efforts after the historic flooding in

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the shooter says, if you will beg for your life, you will not die. lacy's hearing all of this. the lady begin to beg for her life. and apparently it wasn't good enough. he shot her. he called for another young man to come up front and said you're the lucky one. you're going to live today. everything that you need to know about me and what i'm doing is in my backpack. there's a flash drive in there. and it will give you all the information you need. she then heard another lady say to the shooter, i'm so sorry for what you've gone through. i'm so sorry that you've been hurt. >> as the shooting continues to re-ignite the debate over guns in america, a mother of one of the victims suggested her daughter should have been armed. >> i say america, we need to pack guns. if this is what it's coming to to have to protect ourself. >> joining me now is democratic

senator tom harper of delaware, the ranking member of homeland security committee. thank you so much for joining us. i know that you have been in support of gun control. you think congress should make laws stronger. but when you hear a parent whose daughter was there at that community college, one of the victims, who says my child should have been armed and maybe things would have worked out differently. i mean it proves that even those in the middle -- even those immediately affected and impacted are divided. >> i don't know that -- well first of all, let me just say for those who lost members of their family in oregon, our hearts bleed for them. i think the worst thing i can imagine as a father of a couple of boys myself, it is the worst thing that can happen to a ma'am. i think we have more guns per capita than any other nation in the world. my dad was a big hunter, gun collector, gun trader. my dad also believed we should use some common sense. it also included making sure we

didn't have folks buying weapons who were not supposed to, had felony records or mental health problems. my dad felt that if guns should have enough metal in them when they go through a gun detector, it should pick up that stuff. we shouldn't sell cop killer bullets. i think we've moved away from using common sense here and my hope is that somehow a tragedy will change that. i read an interesting peace piece in the "new york times" this weekend about profiling some of the people carrying out these mass murderers. they tend to be male, oftentimes white male, and more often than not people with problems in their lives. the idea that we got to do a better job making sure that we have the data on people so if somebody has a mental health problem they don't get access to the guns. they have records they don't get access to the guns. i can mention something else? i've been thinking a lot about the pope's visit. one of the things that we learned from the pope reinforcing over and over again,

golden rule, treat other people the way we wanted to be treated. a lot of people have these same profiles but they don't kill anybody. one of our obligations as a human being, we hear something, say something. the other thing is the -- put ourselves in somebody else's shoes. how would we want to be treated. my guess is that some of the people that have the same profile that didn't kill anybody, somebody has befriended them, has stepped out an extended some kindness to these folks. so we may want to think about that as human being what can we do in order to help reduce the likelihood this would happen. >> regarding mental health, in this incident in oregon, so far we've not seen anything of a forced mental health commitment into a facility of any kind. the guns were all purchased legally. the gunman's father does raise point of the number of guns that his son was able to purchase in a short span of time.

that may have been perhaps a red flag, maybe a data system that could prevent that from taking place but even still that's not black and white, neither is the mental health part of this. when you hear lawmakers say what about mental health, how do you read that down without potentially discriminating, health officials are worried about hipaa laws and disclosing information on officials around what's the line in the sand regarding mental health? >> one of the lines that's not so hard to define, if a person comes in to a gun shop and you are a licensed gun dealer and i am not, and a person with a felony record, problems with mental health, they're basically on a list not to buy weapons. they come to you as a federally lie sernsed decensed dealer and sell to them. and they come to me and i sell them an assault weapon, that's a clear line. >> two people are running for president and have unveiled plans they believe could potentially curb gun violence. martin o'malley. hillary clinton noted in her

plan 30% to 40% of all gun purchases in america done without a background check because the federal law fails to cover unlicensed transfer online, at gun shows and between anonymous strangers. she's calling for comprehensive federal background check legislation, she would close the loopholes and what she also returned to the charleston loopho loophole. bad actors not being able to supply guns as well. with that said it is about congress, as the president noted, unless he is going to take executive action as hillary clinton said she would if elected. is there anything on her list of proposals, what you've heard in washington from governor o'malley, that you believe could be a compromise point for members of congress? >> i think so. i think if you ask most people in america, democrats, republicans, independents, kind of walk them through what martin o'malley is talking about,

there's consensus. most people don't think we should have this gun show loophole. the key is in a badly divided congress where one person -- one person in a senate can stop a whole lot of good things from happening, how do you overcome that? i think the key here is just don't give up. just don't give up. this is a just and right cause. people have the second amendment rights, they should be able to own and buy guns. doesn't mean everybody including with the kinds of records that should be of concern to us. last thing -- i say this again. golden rule. what can we do as human beings if we see somebody that's depressed, neglected, basically closed out of life. is there anything we can do, just to say hello. i say hello to people all the time. give somebody a smile, say a kind word to them. might just tip the balance between somebody like the killer in oregon and somebody who chose not to.

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she's one of the biggest stars of her generation. demi lovato got her start on "barney and friends" at the age of 10 and starred in several disney channel shows and movies. she's never shied away from personal battles off the stage. in 2011, dem ni shared her batt with bipolar disorder. she's just been diagnosed at the age of 19 after entering rehab for addiction and eating disorders. now she's a spokesperson for a national initiative called be vocal, speak up for mental health, as a way to empower people living with these conditions. tomorrow in washington demi will

make an urgent plea to lawmakers for better mental health treatment in this country. demi lovato joins me now from washington. demi, thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you for having me. >> you were in washington last month at the national alliance of mental illness. their annual conference. you urged congress to pass mental health reform. i think it is so interesting to talk to you right now after this tragedy in oregon. whole conversation of mental health as it relates to gun purchase. that's when it seems the national media and people talk about mental health and where it fits in. not the day to day struggles that don't come behind the headline of gun violence. >> well, unfortunately, we've had several instances where mental health has been brought to the attention by the media because of these tragedies. i think it's really important to remember that actually mental -- people with mental illness are actually more likely to inflict harm on themselves and become the victim rather than be the

perpetrators. >> you were diagnosed at 19 after going to rehab. take me through your journey and were there signs that were missed by the people around you? >> yes. i think there were tons of weres that were missed by the people around me, but i didn't also vocalize it. that's why it's so important. that's why i'm involved in this campaign for mental health called be vocal, and i think that the more that you're vocal for yourself and also others, the more that people can help you. that's why it's so important that you speak up. but yes, i suffered from bits of mania and also bipolar depression. that was the main thing that really got me. i was lonely, i was sad, i was miserable and i couldn't figure out why, because i was on top of the world it felt like, but yeah, i was struggling with it. and i want to do whatever i can to help others. >> including talking to legislators on capitol hill but

you want to see action or better action in this country, specifically in what way? as it relates to young people particularly? >> i think young people, but also adults as well. it actually takes about ten years for someone to be properly diagnosed and find the right treatment while suffering with bipolar disorder or mental illnesses. what i would love to see is comprehensive mental health reform in our government and i think it's really important that people are getting -- are -- that mental health treatment is more accessible than it is. i think it's actually 4 out of 10 people with mental illness are getting the treatment that they need, which leaves you to think how many other people aren't getting treatment, and it's leading to so many problems. >> i know that you have also talked about your battle with eating disorder. this weekend, everywhere over social media i kept seeing beautiful photographs of you pop up. they were in your most natural

state, both without makeup and without clothes and you said this was not just about showing your beauty but a message to empower girls. >> it was a message to empower women. i think it's really important that we remember that in our natural state we are able to show our confidence more so than ever. i feel the most beautiful without makeup and not attire. so with that being said, it's not something where i just wanted, you know, to make a publicity statement or anything like that. if anything, i'm glad that it made a bigger statement and hopefully inspired people suffering from eating disorders because i went from a place where i actually had hated every single inch of my body and i never would have imagined that years later, i would be doing a photo shoot without photoshop, without anything. and it's very liberating and i just want to inspire people. >> you are doing a great job. most important, you're there to face lawmakers with the be

vocal, speak up for mental health initiative, and spreading the word about the difficult struggles for many people, including what you have experienced in your life. demi lovato, always a great pleasure to talk with you. congratulations on the new album and all of your work for those who don't necessarily get to be in front of lawmakers and don't have an opportunity to get their voices heard. thank you so much. hope to see you soon. >> thank you, tamron. we will continue to following breaking news from south carolina, where we are waiting for governor nikki haley to update us on the deadly flooding there. at least nine people have died in the carolinas. in south carolina, 400 roads and 165 bridges are closed in that state. we will continue to follow that breaking news for you. we'll be right back. more data means more freedom to do..whatever. that's why at&t is giving you 50% more data. that's 15 gigs of data for the price of 10. because the more data you have, the better.

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want to take you right now to south carolina, where we are waiting for the governor of that state, nikki haley, to update us. let's listen in. >> we appreciate everybody being

here today. i wanted to give you an update. i've got my team south carolina partners here with me as we go forward. we are now seeing where we are going from starting to go from response mode to assessment mode. we are still very much in response mode when it comes to the midlands down to the coast but we are now as we are seeing the rain lighten up and things lighten up a little bit, we are now going into assessment and recovery mode in terms of the midlands north of the midlands. so that's what we are starting to see the rain back off a little bit. the main thing we are going to be watching is as this water flows, especially from the midlands down to the coast, you are going to see we are prepositioning things. i will talk about that in a little bit. there will be some evacuations. we are looking at places that we will evacuate as we see water move down. to give you updated numbers, we are unfortunately now at nine

weather-related fatalities. what i will tell you is everybody has been very good. traffic is light, people are off the roads. they have really listened but those that didn't listen, this is dangerous. this is very real. so we do have nine weather-related fatalities. i do want to say that we have had word that there are people who are taking their boats to the dam to take pictures of all the water that we're trying to release. that is extremely dangerous. i can't stress enough that this is not a fun event. we don't want to have to come out and rescue you and much worse, we don't want you added to this number much fatalities so we do ask that people avoid that and just watch tv for the pictures. we are looking at now 550 roads and bridges that are closed. we will -- what you will see happen is as the water shifts down, we are going to preposition where the roads are closed so roads are closed now in the upstate.

you will start to see road closures from the midlands to the low country as this wer flows. don't be surprised if there's a road open now, that doesn't mean it will stay open. you will probably see roads close. that's something we're watching carefully as the water flows and that we're working with our team members and with secretary hall. of the 550 roads that are closed, 100 of those are in columbia and in the columbia area. dps has now responded to almost 2700 total calls, 910 were collisions that they responded to. the biggest challenges that we face is following the wave of the water from the midlands down to the coast, road closures, trying to monitor and make sure we're watching those properly. debris removal, we are getting to the point where we are looking for downed trees, any sort of limbs or anything that are getting in the way. the good news is that we are getting into the assessment and recovery mode so a lot of that

is where we can start to assess the damage to really start making some good decisions on how we can go and get people back into a protected situation but also back into a recovery situation. water issues. we have quite a few water issues that we are seeing, either people are without water or contaminated water. we do want people to be extremely careful as they are going on with this water issue. we have currently 40,000 people right now without water and i know that they are working very hard to get that back up. we have 26,000 people that are without power. that number seems to be an average. it's not that they're not getting it back up, it's just when one guess down, we get another one up so it's going back and forth there. but we do have 253 troopers on the road out there trying to keep everybody safe and help all the crews and everybody move accordingly. s.l.e.d. has gone and deployed additional officers